00:00:30.000I think that if you are 150 pounds overweight, you should make some changes to try to lose weight.
00:00:34.000I think you'll be healthier, you'll be happier, and you'll be a better person.
00:00:38.000We should not become a country where being 100 to 150 pounds overweight is considered normal or good.
00:00:45.000In fact, even the CDC, which I don't exactly trust all the time, says that it increases high blood pressure, high cholesterol, type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease.
00:00:54.000It is something that you can do to actually improve other health outputs.
00:00:57.000But we received plenty of angry emails, people pretty fired up about it, and you can continue to get in line on that.
00:01:07.000But equally, we're receiving really promising emails of people that say, Charlie, because you speak truthfully on this, I have lost weight.
00:02:14.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:02:23.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:20.000I don't believe that's what we're here in Washington to do.
00:03:25.000And unfortunately, Republican leadership, who had been doing a good job for the last five months, including all of us in the conversation as part of the sort of power sharing arrangement from January, was yielding good results.
00:03:39.000We passed the Really Good Limit Save Grow Act.
00:03:50.000They walked away from the structure and the model that was working and instead worked and cut a deal with the White House and then just announced it.
00:06:20.000And I'm not even questioning what you're saying.
00:06:23.000It's just that those are two different universes, right?
00:06:27.000How are they getting to that headline or that number?
00:06:31.000Because what happens in Washington is that the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, comes in and says, okay, look, if you drop the spending off of its current trajectory, you will save X over 10 years.
00:06:43.000What we are saying is that we want upfront cuts in year one that are meaningful, and we want statutory caps to lock in the spending levels.
00:06:53.000All we've got right here is two-year statutory caps, two years of statutory caps, which are basically at a freeze.
00:07:03.000All that does is flatten the curb off of the already bloated COVID curve.
00:07:08.000The CBO is saying, wait, over 10 years, if you keep at that spending level, you can save somewhere between $1.50 to $2 trillion, depending on which study you look at.
00:07:20.000And what we're saying is, no, we don't accept out-year savings.
00:07:25.000We want near-term savings, and we want to prove it.
00:07:28.000That's why our bill had a trillion dollars in year one savings and would have been at $5 trillion over $10.
00:08:08.000Last August, they passed the expansion of the IRS, which basically gave them a pot of money, like $80 billion, just sitting over there to be spent over a decade.
00:08:19.000All this bill does is say you can't spend $1.4 billion of that this year with respect to the IRS expansion, but it leaves the $78.6 billion sitting there.
00:08:29.000Now, they'll say, well, we have an agreement that says we can peel off another $10 billion each of the next two years to then go backfill some of the non-defense discretionary cuts.
00:09:16.000So, first of all, what I'm disappointed in, because look, I get along with Kevin.
00:09:20.000I like Kevin, people negotiating, Garrett, Patrick McHenry, Kevin's staff.
00:09:25.000We've been talking, but I believed, and I told them last week, that I thought whatever deal you try to go cut, you've got to bring it back to the Republican conference.
00:09:34.000And we've got to have a family conversation about whether this passes mustard.
00:10:03.000But if we don't get either votes on amendments that are critical or get amendments that will change the bill, I can promise you I'm not going to agree to a closed rule to send this bill to the floor as is.
00:10:16.000So we'll go have conversations this afternoon and we'll see what happens.
00:10:19.000So just kind of taking the temperature of members, if it passes rules, do you think that then this will pass with 100 Republican defections or Democrats?
00:10:32.000I mean, where are we at now with the kind of composition?
00:10:35.000I know this is speculation, but what can you tell based on the atmospheric so far of the House Republican conference?
00:10:52.000My read is that there's very much a half or more of the conference that are raising serious questions or saying that they're a no or lean no.
00:10:59.000We'll see what happens when the whip and the leaders strong arm and start twisting arms and say, you got to be with us.
00:11:25.000I mean, if the Biden administration supports it, and if Mitt Romney supports it, and if Bill Kristol supports it, and if a bunch of Democrats here in the House support it in this environment, how good do you think it is?
00:11:37.000Congressman Chiproy, thank you for joining us.
00:11:39.000We're going to probably have you on tomorrow, the next day, because last question only like 10 seconds.
00:13:10.000So I couldn't believe it when I was doing the research on this.
00:13:15.000The New York City government, with crime going up, arson, carjackings, and all this, led by Eric Adams, they have a new announcement in regards to fat acceptance.
00:13:27.000Now, look, America is fatter than ever and gayer than ever.
00:14:43.000And so I think this is the right thing to do.
00:14:47.000We're going to continue to talk about our progressive health agenda.
00:14:51.000And science has shown that body type is not a connection to if you're healthy or unhealthy.
00:14:57.000And I think that's a misnomer that we are really dispelling.
00:15:01.000When it comes to COVID, when it comes to heart disease, when it comes to diabetes, being overweight puts you at risk of dying or having a significant, significantly difficult journey with all of those things.
00:15:56.000One-third of the world's population is fat, yet fat people are discriminated against in all aspects of daily life.
00:16:02.000Now, this is a type of discrimination that we shouldn't have any problem with because this is something you can change.
00:16:09.000Remember, racial discrimination is inherently evil and bigoted because you're discriminating against something that somebody cannot change.
00:16:54.000As the chair of the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance and a co-founder of the Campaign for Size Freedom, I am so thrilled at the example that New York City is setting today.
00:17:07.000We all know, y'all know, New York is the global city.
00:17:10.000And this will ripple across the globe in terms of showing to people all over the world that discrimination against people based on their body size is wrong and is something that we can change.
00:17:26.000No, if you are obese, you should have to buy two airplane tickets.
00:17:31.000If you are obese, you should be treated differently if you want to buy a ticket, if you want to enter into something where a skinny person or somebody taking care of themselves otherwise will be disenfranchised.
00:17:43.000This is the one thing where you have agency and you have free will.
00:17:48.000If you are overweight, have enough respect for yourself to do something about it.
00:17:56.000Look, you did the tough thing during the Chinese coronavirus.
00:17:58.000You paid your people and pulled your business through the pandemic.
00:18:02.000And now doing the tough thing could qualify you up to $26,000 per employee at covidtaxrelief.org.
00:18:09.000Government funds are available to reward companies with two or more employees who stayed open during COVID.
00:18:14.000This is not a loan and you don't have to pay it back.
00:18:16.000I know a lot of people that have benefited from this.
00:18:18.000I think Congress appropriated way too much money.
00:18:21.000This program is complicated, but nobody knows it better than the CPAs and tax experts at covidtaxrelief.org.
00:18:31.000They do all the work and share a percentage of the cash they get you.
00:18:34.000Businesses of all types, including nonprofits and churches, can qualify, including those who took PPP loans, even if you had an increase in sales.
00:18:43.000You did the difficult thing for your employees during the virus.
00:18:47.000Let covidtaxrelief.org help you get up to $26,000 per employee.
00:19:19.000And I'm sorry that I'm not going to affirm gluttony, which is one of the seven deadly sins.
00:19:24.000I think you might be a sweet person, a nice person, but our country is far overweight.
00:19:28.000It's not easy to trim off the pounds, but you just admitted you're 145 pounds overweight.
00:19:34.000There's probably a lifestyle element that plays into that.
00:19:38.000And by the way, I care about you so much, I care about the audience so much that I don't want you to have to have type 2 diabetes or having heart disease.
00:19:47.000Having a trim physique is best for all of your health outcomes.
00:19:52.000In a moment we have Andy Biggs, but just think about it's an unbelievably obese younger generation.
00:19:58.000Think about the standard we are setting where it says you don't have to watch what you eat, you don't have to exercise.
00:22:21.000So before the Biden administration is even out of office, the administrative PAYGO provision, which they keep telling me is transformative, goes away.
00:22:30.000What administrative PAYGO is supposed to do is any agency, any bureaucracy is supposed to determine how they're going to pay for new programs, et cetera.
00:22:39.000Well, it can be waived at any time by the director of Office of Management and Budget, who happens to be a Democrat Biden appointee.
00:22:50.000So they don't have to, and it can't be litigated, by the way, because that's the way they've drafted it.
00:24:31.000So they claim that they've frozen the discretionary funding at the 2022 rates.
00:24:41.000And actually, that's where they get their $12 billion because it's actually $12 billion below the 2023 rates.
00:24:47.000But what they've done, though, is those caps are artificial and they sit between 22 and 23 numbers.
00:24:56.000So I know this is hard to fathom how this works, but they're placing those ostensible caps in there for two years.
00:25:05.000By the way, anybody can you can always waive those caps.
00:25:09.000And then they say for four years, this is where the CBO says you get another four or $600 billion in savings, is that there'll be four years more of optional caps.
00:25:41.000Yeah, let me just interrupt because, you know, and you addressed this, but I just want to make sure that, you know, I was on this briefing call yesterday.
00:25:48.000I decided to call in from the speaker's office.
00:25:50.000I'm sure you've heard the talking points, right?
00:25:52.000And the IRS one in particular, again, I'm not in the wonkiness of the weeds here, but you are.
00:25:56.000They say it deprives them of this, but you're saying that's not true, right?
00:26:00.000They say that because there's this money off the psychic.
00:26:51.000And they can use it any way they want because money is fungible and money can be supplanted.
00:26:56.000So the point is, you haven't stopped them from hiring agents in this year.
00:27:04.000What McCarthy should have done is taken the first bill we passed out of here that did repeal all of that spending, took it away, and proscribed or prohibited the hiring of agents.
00:29:05.000The director of OMB, who is a leftist Democrat appointed by the Biden administration, can waive the PAYGO requirements for any reason at any time.
00:29:20.000And I'm just going to tell you this because I've had this from Democrat sources.
00:29:24.000The White House is absolutely unconcerned with this provision.
00:29:29.000Because their person is the one that determines whether the bureaucracy has to find a way to pay for whatever rules, programs, et cetera, that they go to.
00:29:39.000And their person can say they're waiving it at any time.
00:30:08.000I want to cover two or three areas with rescissions.
00:30:12.000I proposed a long time ago, and it was adopted in the last bill, about $900 billion in rescissions, taking back student loan money, taking back IRS money, taking back COVID relief money, taking back Green New Deal subsidies.
00:30:25.000This particular bill, instead of having $900 billion in rescissions, is at claimed to be $29 billion.
00:30:36.000So they got rid of any of the Green New Deal subsidies and tax credits.
00:31:01.000But they're going to set aside $22 billion, Charlie, off to the side, and those are going to be used to go around these putative debt ceiling or these spending caps.
00:31:14.000So when they say they've got spending caps, they've got some programs that they're going to need more money for.
00:31:19.000So they're going to move that $22 billion from the rescissions around and put it in for that.
00:31:24.000So the actual rescission amount drops down to about $6 billion.
00:31:28.000And the team of McCarthy Biden are telling everybody that this is the highest rescissions ever in the history of America.
00:31:38.000The highest rescissions would have been if they would have stuck with the $900 billion.
00:31:41.000And if you want to know how bad this plan is, the economic advisor for Joe Biden just tweeted out that the deal with McCarthy helps cement in the progressive agenda.
00:31:53.000So what do you think is the legislative future of this bill?
00:31:58.000I think right now we're getting more and more Republicans on board.
00:32:01.000I hope that the only critical mass that really matters if we can get more than 113 or more than half of the Republicans to vote no, because ostensibly Kevin's not going to bring it to the floor.
00:32:12.000But I believe you're going to have 150 or so Democrats that vote for this.
00:32:17.000And I think you're going to have right now, you might have a similar number of Republicans who vote for it in the House.
00:32:38.000Can you just walk through the timeline, though?
00:32:41.000When did you first hear about this bill and how were you notified?
00:32:45.000Reporting says that you heard about it Saturday evening on like kind of a conference call because you were a little bit, were you kept in the dark?
00:32:56.000Well, I would be lying if I didn't say I'd heard rumors about various aspects of this for weeks, but they were just that.
00:33:04.000They were rumors and I couldn't verify with anyone.
00:33:07.000So we were told late last week that we had to stay within 24 hours of Washington, D.C.
00:33:16.000And so I want to say while I was driving down to Maricopa to speak on Saturday, I think they notified us that that's when I think they told us that we would have a conference that evening, Saturday evening, where they would kind of brief us on this.
00:33:33.000And that's when we got briefed and they said that they'd have language for us Sunday.
00:33:40.000So got language, I want to say Sunday evening, about 9 o'clock Eastern time.
00:33:47.000And then I flew back here yesterday and been reading the bill, looking at analyses of the bill, talking to people about the bill.
00:34:01.000And the rules committee, Charlie, and this is important, the rules committee will meet, I think, in about an hour, 3 o'clock Eastern Time.
00:34:11.000They will meet and consider this bill.
00:34:14.000I believe Chip Roy and Ralph Norman are going to vote no on the rule on this, which means that I don't know what Mastie's going to do, and I don't know what anybody else is going to do, but I suspect the Democrats are going to help this bill get out of rules.
00:34:32.000And then the question is, will they allow amendments or potential amendments on the floor?
00:35:15.000I have too much respect for you, the audience, and compassion for you to say that you should stay where you are if you are chronically overweight.
00:35:22.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:35:27.000Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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