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00:01:27.000No, one of the things you were saying just before Dan graced us with his incredible presence, which I'm still basking in somewhat, was that the Republican Party is more united than it's ever been.
00:01:38.000So there are no obstacles, you know, outside of the kind of nefarious things to which have been alluded and have recently been experienced.
00:01:46.000Yeah, so the second term is going to be a lot different than the first.
00:01:51.000the ascendant political power of Trump will contend with the kind of
00:01:57.000state power, deep state power, blob power, use whatever term you want, once in office.
00:02:02.000Yeah, so you have to, the second term is going to be a lot different than the first.
00:02:05.000First of all, personnel is policy and there are some really great people that
00:02:08.000are going to be going into this government.
00:02:11.000Vance is going to be a keeping-the-eyes-on-the-federal-government-every-single-day-when-President-Trump-might-be-handling-higher-level-type-of-diplomatic-issues.
00:02:20.000Look, President Trump's agenda day one is going to be securing the border, ending the war in Ukraine, ending the war in Gaza, and making sure that we have our commitment to Israel.
00:02:30.000Under the current, though, we need to build a government, put cabinet secretaries in,
00:02:34.000and also we have a looming list of like 50 or 60 immediate reforms and firings that need
00:02:39.000to happen. There's a reform called Schedule F that allows you to fire federal employees
00:02:43.000at will, but there's also a 1960s-era act that allows the President of the United States
00:02:48.000– it's the President Reassignment Act, I'm getting the name wrong, but it's
00:02:51.000something of that sort – that essentially allows, if there's duplication in government,
00:02:54.000the President can merge agencies or officials together. No one knows this exists. Vivek
00:02:58.000told me about this and I went and did all the research on it. It's amazing. So, for
00:03:01.000example, if there is duplicative type of work happening in the federal government, in the
00:03:06.000Department of Education and also maybe in the Department of Interior or Department of
00:03:11.000You can then merge government agencies together and effectively sunset and end them.
00:03:16.000Now it'll be challenged in court, but it's pretty clear that the executive branch has far more power than people realize.
00:03:21.000And there needs to be an immediate message, if President Trump were to win and take office in the first couple weeks, that every bureaucrat is worried that they might be next.
00:03:32.000That there needs to be volleys and salvos of firings and terminations.
00:03:37.000And, uh, this needs to- this needs to continue for quite some time.
00:03:40.000And then, uh, yeah, look, again, it comes down to the human beings that actually execute the policy as well.
00:03:44.000Do you know that... Thank you very much.
00:03:46.000That was so beautifully explained, but I'd expect nothing less from you, Charlie.
00:03:58.000And we need you to join us there because, well, Dan, who knows what further illuminations await us from that direction.
00:04:04.000Charlie could be turning verbal pirouettes at any moment now.
00:04:08.000And I get the sense that there's information that these two men are not willing to tell me while we're still on a platform like YouTube that regulates in the manner that it does.
00:04:16.000He's a member of the TNI and is ultimately part of the systems that constrain our freedom.
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00:04:53.000Well, I mean, there's no news going on right now.
00:04:54.000I know, I'm always, listen, as a content creator, Russell, here's my biggest fear.
00:04:59.000My shows are live, live, every day, four hours a day.
00:05:03.000I'm proudest of the fact, you know, knock on wood or whatever, that despite having a Fox show, a radio show, and a TV show, I can tell you with a straight face, I'm yet to have gotten caught on the air where someone says something, I go, you know what?
00:05:17.000I obviously don't know everything or even close to it, but as a content creator, you damn well, it's your responsibility for the audience to know what everything is, the face act, the save act, all that stuff.
00:05:26.000So I always have this FOMO, like I'm going to miss out.
00:05:28.000You know, so did you hear what Trump just said?
00:05:30.000And if I don't hear it, like, what's the point of listening to me?
00:06:13.000You know, like that kind of dedication and devotion that you had in your previous incarnation as working for the security services.
00:06:19.000Do you feel that level of devotion and dedication as a Rumble creator?
00:06:22.000There is something that you obsess about making sure that you have the accurate information, the correct information, and the information available immediately.
00:06:30.000Is it something you're very devoted to?
00:06:32.000You know, I think I get it from my father.
00:06:34.000You know, obviously we're, you know, I'm not getting into social psychology, but we're all social models, right?
00:07:17.000But he got there at, I think, 4.35 because it was important to him that everybody knew he was the first guy into work and that he was... He didn't knock anyone else for showing up on time.
00:07:27.000He was like, hey, you should be here at 4.
00:08:00.000What you guys do is real, and I respect that.
00:08:03.000And if you're gonna give me a fake job like this, where I talk for a living, then you're damn right I'm gonna do the damn thing, the right freakin' way, and not talk a bunch of bullsh...
00:08:17.000That's a pretty beautiful set of values.
00:08:19.000I wonder how those values and the constituency that Dan is speaking to and for have, over the last 20 years, somehow been so casually demonized and condemned.
00:08:31.000I saw it in my country in Brexit and certainly the rise of the MAGA movement has been accompanied with condemnation of an entire class of people as Yes.
00:08:43.000How did America turn on its inhabitants, Charlie, by your reckoning so insidiously and cruelly?
00:08:48.000And how did they get away with it, continually framing themselves as the protectors of the vulnerable?
00:08:53.000After the wall fell and we declared victory over the Cold War, the ruling class of this country decided to care much more about corporate profits and their own enrichment and the welfare
00:09:24.000Liberalism will take over the entire world.
00:09:27.000You know, the whole idea of dictatorship or oligarchy or conservative rule is over, and liberalism is the best way of ruling ever, and it will just spread with any sort of restraints.
00:09:41.000And it was a lie because they made a series of, again, what was on full display here at the RNC is a refutation of that devil's bargain that occurred In the late 80s and early 90s, which is neoliberalism is built on invade the world, invite the world, and import a bunch of cheap stuff at the expense of your own citizens.
00:09:59.000And we've lived through the excesses of that because our leaders, the last 20 years especially, have contempt for the people that they are tasked to govern.
00:10:08.000It's pretty extraordinary that those military endeavours are no longer supported automatically and reflexively by the kind of people that you described.
00:10:17.000Now, those people have become cynical, full of doubt.
00:10:20.000The idea, as Charlie described earlier, Dan, that presumably Trump and Vance will ascend into power on an anti-war mandate, that, as Charlie said earlier, is an incredible recalibration.
00:10:32.000How has this how has this change in temperature been achieved?
00:10:37.000How has it happened that the Republican Party movement now is the party of anti-war?
00:10:41.000And what do you imagine is going to happen?
00:10:43.000Where is all of that power, all of that lobbying clout, all of that manipulation going to go once they no longer
00:10:50.000have the pathways that were available to them?
00:11:09.000You know what, my position on this though, I've ran, I've actually run for, I've run for Office of Laws, but you can go back and watch my campaign commercials and everything else.
00:11:17.000I've been consistently anti-foreign intervention when there's no actual game plan.
00:11:23.000I was against the Iraq War, Afghanistan, there were portions of it we had to do after 9-11, but I certainly did not support a long-term footprint.
00:11:30.000And I'm gonna tell you something that changed me, and I'm not trying to get all choked up, and I'm trying not to be a wussbag, but you know, My uncle served in Vietnam, a war where the message at a minimum was confusing to people.
00:11:44.000They didn't understand what we were doing.
00:11:46.000I'm just saying the message to the American people was off, okay?
00:13:13.000The human condition is something not easily simplified by one page narratives in a book.
00:13:18.000However, if I, as a political leader running for office when I did, I'm not anymore, am going to commit your son into combat, or daughter, and they're going to come back in some freaking body bag, then I better damn well have some kind of game plan as to why they died.
00:13:33.000And I think the Republican Party has always been the party, at least on the economic front, of results.
00:13:38.000And I think we just applied the same guiding ethos to war.
00:15:14.000But what happens if we do and Putin launches a tactical nuke because then his power is threatened and he's a maniac and he's not going to leave power without sending a message by dropping a tactical nuke first.
00:15:25.000And then they go, is that victory now?
00:15:26.000Because then there's no Crimea because the nuclear war breaks out.
00:15:29.000And then they look as you go, Man, I never really thought about that.
00:16:13.000They made a little video about me saying it was in Ukrainian, I hasten to add.
00:16:18.000But what do you think is indicated by that lack of a script and by the lack of an inability to outline a clear agenda?
00:16:23.000What is revealed by this inability in your view, Dan?
00:16:28.000This is what, if you ever go to business school, they do SWOT analysis, strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats.
00:16:34.000Modern American politics has solely become about not You know, weaponizing the ability to take advantage of opportunities to make America great, it is shifted almost fully into, let's just mitigate a threat and stay alive.
00:16:50.000So, in relationship to wars in Ukraine, I can almost guarantee you, Swampy Republicans, because it's a bipartisan show what's going on, and weak Democrats said, well, we don't want to look weak by having Putin invade Ukraine, because it's going to politically hurt me.
00:17:07.000So let's just marginally do something, whether it works or not, and let's just ride it out to the next election.
00:17:13.000Never attribute to, you know, incompetence what you can attribute in politics.
00:17:45.000He's like, I'll have to get, you know, he's like, you know, his staff came in and just like, I didn't film it because I'm not there for sensationalism.
00:17:51.000I'm not here to, I'm just like, I'm actually interested in a policy question from somebody who, like, kind of has no idea who it's from.
00:17:58.000By the way, I got that from Tucker, who goes around and asks that question to everybody.
00:18:01.000But we must understand that after the wall fell, it all goes back to the wall, we had a decision, which is, are we now going to keep this NATO project alive, and what is the reason for NATO?
00:18:14.000Repeatedly wanted to join NATO, and just end this chapter, and we don't have to have this Russian bear adversary.
00:18:21.000But NATO is the GAE, the gay, which is the Great American Empire.
00:18:27.000And that is why when NATO was in town, it was in America, it's as if this is the neoliberal project is housed within NATO.
00:18:35.000And so when Putin invaded Ukraine, first of all, he was provoked to invade, provoked by Kamala Harris going to the Munich Security Conference and saying that Ukraine should become a member of NATO.
00:18:46.000And we have all this weapons and all this armament on the border.
00:18:50.000What American liberals saw is that they saw a questioning of the outer edges of their empire.
00:18:56.000Because we as Americans are, we are much closer to mercantilism than we are to anything else, which is we're not actually a nation.
00:19:05.000We are a deteriorating homeland with outer edges colonies and an oligarchy that makes a bunch of money off of the underclass.
00:19:12.000And permanent war is the oxygen of the oligarchy.
00:19:15.000What's terrifying to me, and obviously I want to hear your perspective on this, is that if we're living through a period of de-dollarisation, where America's economic power is indeed under collapse, then how will they be able to resist, even with this presumed mandate in post-November, The ongoing struggles that are presented by the potential threat of a rise of China or the rise of Russia, if indeed what is playing out really on a geopolitical level is the threat of the BRICS currency and what is the emergence of genuine threats from China and Russia.
00:19:51.000Do you see that under this administration, on the geopolitical level, to go right from the micro of the anguish and agony of losing a family member in war To the vast potential for the apocalypse, which I think many people are terrified could become a reality under the Biden administration, were it to be granted time to administer it.
00:20:13.000How do you think that those kind of problems are diffused?
00:20:17.000Or do you not consider them to be problems that can't be resolved diplomatically, both of you?
00:20:24.000You're not going to reverse 40 years of neoliberalism overnight.
00:20:28.000But President Trump, he has a mandate, hopefully, from the American people coming into November, which is that we're not going to have any more of these adventurous wars.
00:20:38.000We're going to put the American worker first.