Steve Kamb joins the show as we talk about the deep state, the administrative state, and Epstein. The DOJ has moved to unseal the Epstein documents, so that is a little bit of an update but I think you ll enjoy this conversation.
00:00:00.000Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
00:00:04.000Steve Bannon joins the show as we talk about the deep state, the administrative state, and Epstein as well.
00:00:10.000Mind you, the DOJ has moved to unseal the Epstein documents, so that is just a little bit of an update, but I think you'll really enjoy this conversation.
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00:03:40.000He made this thing, a time for choosing, very, you know, it was very highly stylized, magnificent speech.
00:03:48.000They already knew Goldwater was probably going to lose by a landslide, but they were making the case for a time for choosing about ourselves in relation to the communists, because that's what we're getting on Goldwater most about.
00:04:00.000He was so hardcore about taking down communism.
00:04:07.000Goldwater would go on to lose in the biggest landslide in history at that time.
00:04:13.00025 years later, almost to the week, the Berlin Wall fell.
00:04:19.000So it took them, they had to go through a lot.
00:04:22.000Reagan lost a primary to Jerry Ford, came back, won, but taking down the evil empire, Tanaman Square happened in June of 1989, and the Berlin Wall fell in November of 1989.
00:04:35.000We had the same time for choosing right here.
00:04:38.000That's why Megan said it was very powerful.
00:04:40.000We know as a movement we can win elections, right?
00:05:17.000You have to ask yourself the question, do we actually govern?
00:05:20.000Is there an apparatus that's bigger than this kind of democratic process that's laid on to a constitutional republic, right, of our founders and revolutionary generation set up?
00:07:38.000We know we have these radical Democrats, these basic neo-Confederates, and people aren't paying enough attention to it because the media is not because we're all over on these international conflicts.
00:07:48.000In Los Angeles, in Chicago, in New York, right now, we don't have control of those cities.
00:07:54.000They are basically being run by neo-Confederates that are sitting there saying, hey, we will protect illegal aliens.
00:08:00.000And in fact, we will fire upon federal officers.
00:08:02.000What happened in California the other day?
00:08:04.000We'll fire upon federal officers to do that, to protect illegal aliens.
00:08:09.000So the country is in turmoil, but it's a turmoil that I think is positive in the fact that the deep state and the radical kind of this combination, this red-green alliance between radical neo-Marxist ideology and this Islamic fascism, which you see is going to win the election in New York City.
00:11:27.000This work is far harder than the previous work we've had to do, which is winning elections, which is you folks are doing the precinct strategy and people have been out there knocking our doors.
00:12:19.000If they announce a special prosecutor for Crossfire Hurricane and everything that came forward, I think it will include the election of 2020.
00:12:28.000I think there will be other elements in there of what Brennan and these guys have done.
00:12:31.000When we announce this special prosecutor to start to go through everything, the stolen election, because remember, they try to nullify the 16 elections.
00:13:00.000this special prosecutor can have as big a staff as possible.
00:13:04.000If this is true, if it's radical left, let's then show that and show how the left came up with these files and let's get it out there so people can judge it.
00:13:43.000If it brings you votes and it allows you to get to power, you got to manage it, like, you know, FDR managed his coalition.
00:13:50.000However, if certain core structural items are not dealt with, and this is a structural item that's been around forever, people have worked hard, and these are our best people.
00:14:02.000These are the ones that knock on doors.
00:14:03.000These are the ones that are precinct committee men.
00:14:06.000These are the ones that come to the turning point conferences twice a year.
00:14:13.000These are people that I would tell the president in January and February and March of 2021, when Rupert Murdoch was sending memos out to his staff saying they're going to make you a non-person, these are the people that stood in the breach to make sure that you had an apparatus.
00:14:28.000If you decided to run again, understanding everything they're going to do to you, you had that apparatus.
00:14:49.000By the way, as hard as you guys worked in Arizona, as hard as you worked in Pennsylvania, as hard as people worked in Michigan and in Wisconsin, these things are coming down to 10,000, 20,000 votes.
00:15:04.000And folks, you've got to understand this midterm, with Trump not on the ballot, you know, we had the situation in 2018, right?
00:15:12.000Where President Trump, I thought, was kind of on a roll, and we lost, what, 40 seats?
00:15:16.000So we can't lose any core element of our coalition.
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00:16:52.000No, but I'm saying if we don't pursue this to its logical conclusion and show everybody the information and show the interconnectivities, you know, Mike Benz, I think, is going to come out in the next couple of weeks with some amazing information.
00:17:05.000If you don't show the interconnectivity, if you don't show who was financing Epstein, who he basically worked with.
00:17:13.000I think you're going to see a combination of financial institutions, intelligence agencies, both our intelligence agencies, other countries, other governments, corporations, not just individuals, lots of individuals, but I mean institutions.
00:17:27.000And the institutions are where the power is.
00:17:29.000And I think people are going to be shocked by it.
00:17:31.000But you've got to go and take that to its logical conclusion.
00:17:34.000Because if you don't, people are going to sit there.
00:17:37.000Some of our movement's going to become cynical and go, just like the young people, are going to say, what is this all about?
00:18:23.000This is kind of all thrust upon us this week at this point.
00:18:26.000Well, it's all thrust upon us this week.
00:18:28.000I mean, I think it's a fight we have to have about the deep state.
00:18:31.000I think we've got to get on with it right now because you can change tax policy, you can do this, you can do that.
00:18:37.000Still, if you still get continued to sucked into these wars, if you're still trying to be an empire spread all over the world, all over Hell's Half Acre, if you're still giving billions of dollars to Ukraine because the national debt doesn't mean anything, if you look at the entire resistance package we're trying to force through, that's up in a moment with the arms to Ukraine.
00:19:00.000And there's talk that NATO's going to try to come up with a no-fly zone around Ukraine.
00:20:12.000If you look at the first six months, if you started back in January, I think we've had more wins.
00:20:16.000Now, obviously, there's some things that are surprising people, like this new out of nowhere, this kind of amnesty situation with the farm workers, right?
00:20:26.000There's obviously this thing with Epstein.
00:20:30.000There's other things, some of the big, beautiful bill.
00:20:34.000But I think right now, given the momentum we had and some of the big wins we had, understanding we're going to 26 and we've got to keep, because five seats, six seats, President Trump's going to be impeached.
00:20:45.000And these guys are so vicious, people are not focused on the Democrats.
00:20:49.000Hakeem Jeffrey is kind of considered irrelevant.
00:20:52.000Zorhan in New York City, the Working Family Party and the DSA, which are very powerful on ground.
00:20:58.000Source has given them $37 million, and they own the streets.
00:21:03.000They own the amount of people that turn out, you know, turn out 10,000 people in Brooklyn to Canvas is a big deal.
00:21:11.000So I think that we have to come out here with a rallying cry of action that we're going to take.
00:21:15.000And I hope that we focus around we've got to take on the deep state and quite frankly, have to work with President Trump and the team and cash and these guys.
00:21:24.000Because cash, remember the whole profile before, we were going to take on the deep state.
00:22:44.000Because, look, I'm a big believer in President Trump in 2028, but there's going to be some point in time you're not going to have President Trump, right?
00:22:50.000So you're going to have to start to dig down on this apparatus because this apparatus has no interest in tossing the keys over to you.
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00:25:55.000But like the T.S. Eliot poem says, you'll learn so much about yourself when you return home, you'll understand it for the first time, yourself in your home.
00:26:12.000It's a block of time when you're young that in that decade of your 20s to actually get as many experiences throughout the world to test yourself as you're never going to be tested.
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00:28:22.000I'd say once you graduate, first of all, a really good way to learn about the other side and where it's heading, there is no better book fictionally to read than 1984.
00:28:30.000It captures technological totalitarianism in a very entertaining way.
00:29:15.000But I encourage you to read the fictional elements of these guys because, look, Orwell, he could have written an essay about totalitarianism, and no one would really remember it.
00:30:15.000Donald Trump reads the New York Times, the New York Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Financial Times, and the Washington Post cover to cover, every day, including the editorials, which were very few people.
00:30:25.000And he marks them up for you and sends them to you.
00:30:27.000A print newspaper is still the best way to get information.
00:30:30.000If you want to learn how to debate, you've got to know the world.
00:30:33.000The best way to know the world is to read your local paper.
00:30:36.000And I'm going to give you another hint, being a paper boy.
00:30:38.000When you get your local paper, like my mom used to do, put the front section away and go to the metro section.
00:30:46.000So you read the metro section, read the metro section, and you will start to become so much smarter than the kids that are just academically debating.
00:30:54.000It'll be common sense and street smart.
00:31:14.000I'm a precinct committee woman in Naples, Florida.
00:31:18.000What I've learned, not just through that, but through other ways, is that getting a good candidate to run for an office and getting them backing before even the primary takes part takes place is impossible.
00:31:33.000Like, how are we going to get good candidates to run for even the basic local races to then move up if everything seems to be rigged at every level?
00:31:49.000Remember, if we don't do it now, and that's why it's so important the young people are here, if we don't do it now against what you're saying, it's so overwhelming.
00:31:58.000The concentration of power in these industries is so much worse than even in 2017.
00:32:04.000It looks like the odds are stacked against us.
00:32:06.000However, because your precinct strategy worked, we won in 2024.
00:32:11.000Remember, on the morning of the election, MSNBC and all these guys in 2024, they're all laughing.
00:32:18.000They think that Kamala Harris is going to win.
00:32:21.000Up until about seven or eight o'clock at night, when the exit polls started to confirm what was happening, that they really was going to lose.
00:32:56.000New people come on, but that's why you and people like you have got to continue to drive forward.
00:33:02.000And yes, it's hard, and it looks thankless.
00:33:05.000I know my sister says the worst thing I ever did is to entice her to go be a precinct committeeman, right?
00:33:12.000So, but you're going to have to do it.
00:33:13.000That's how we're going to want, if you, and you're emblematic of virtually everybody I talk to, if you sit there and go, it's too rigged, it's too hard, I can't do it, I've got to go do something else, I guarantee you this is going to be a totalitarian dictatorship in a very short period of time.
00:33:31.000There's no greater gift you can give your children, your grandchildren, anything than the fight we have today.
00:33:38.000You could choose as a free man and woman, I can't do this anymore.
00:33:42.000And if we do that, and that is a possibility that people are going to do, particularly with the information, with more true socials like that, maybe that's what happens.