The Charlie Kirk Show - Steve Bannon's Insane Prediction About Matt Gaetz

00:00:00.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:00:41.000 Here we are here at America Fest in Phoenix, Arizona, with the amazing grassroots from all across the country.

00:00:51.000 I am joined here by the legendary Steve Bannon and Matt Gates.

00:00:56.000 Whoa!

00:01:00.000 So, Matt, I thought I was starting to look more like each other.

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00:01:12.000 I am dressed up compared to them.

00:01:15.000 Steve, you gave an epic speech yesterday.

00:01:17.000 Takeaways, for those listening on radio that can't be here, give them just some of a window into what we've been experiencing here.

00:01:24.000 Well, it's the Army of the Awakened, right?

00:01:26.000 And what MFEST is is the 12 to 15,000 people at the tip of the spear.

00:01:30.000 You're the Pathfinders, you're Force Recon, you're the Rangers, you're the ones leading the way.

00:01:36.000 Every revolutionary movement has a vanguard.

00:01:39.000 And 250 years ago on Saturday was the Boston Tea Party with Hancock and Sam Adams and John Adams and the entire crew.

00:01:48.000 If they came back today, they would say this movement is the direct descendant of our revolutionary generation, right?

00:01:57.000 That's the whole message: that if this group does not falter, does not retreat, does not back up, and look, we're going to have victories and we're going to have defeats.

00:02:07.000 But we cannot be beaten, right?

00:02:10.000 We cannot, just like in the revolution.

00:02:12.000 It was what, eight years of fighting to get to get to victory.

00:02:16.000 It may take that long here.

00:02:18.000 The first stop is victory next November, House, Senate, and Donald J. Trump back in the White House.

00:02:24.000 So, Steve, I'm glued to your speech last night.

00:02:29.000 And what was so unique about it is I felt more empowered afterwards, not as a lawmaker, but just as an American.

00:02:37.000 And Charlie, I haven't even told you this yet, but all the gossip and talk on the House floor was about which members of Congress even got to take the stage here.

00:02:47.000 That's how powerful this audience is.

00:02:49.000 That's how powerful this platform is.

00:02:52.000 The lawmakers understand that even the chance to cast a vision and see your reaction and response is really what drives this movement more than any boring meeting in a conference room with the RNC.

00:03:05.000 Well, and I got to tell you, I got lots of calls from members of Congress that I know, and you say, you know, why wasn't I invited?

00:03:11.000 I said, well, vote better.

00:03:13.000 I said, vote better.

00:03:16.000 I said, vote better.

00:03:18.000 Follow Matt Gates.

00:03:20.000 They didn't like that.

00:03:21.000 They didn't like that at all.

00:03:22.000 And they said, well, what do you mean?

00:03:24.000 I said, well, you voted for the NDAA and you voted for all this nonsense.

00:03:27.000 And, you know, look, we're very careful about who we platform here at the Turning Point Action Conference, Turning Point USA, because if you don't have, and by the way, we have a scorecard, Turning Point Action, go to tpaction.com.

00:03:38.000 We score every single vote.

00:03:39.000 And so, but this is a whole new development, Steve.

00:03:42.000 And I love hearing that, Matt, because lawmakers are starting to realize that the grassroots is leading the party, that it's starting to set the tone.

00:03:50.000 This is a game change.

00:03:52.000 Steve, we need to pour gas on this.

00:03:55.000 It's called populism.

00:03:56.000 Populism.

00:03:57.000 We're tired of having the elites tell us what to do.

00:04:00.000 Republican elites, Wall Street elites, Silicon Valley elites, it doesn't matter.

00:04:04.000 Strength and power comes from the people, right?

00:04:08.000 That's where we fought.

00:04:09.000 That's where we left Great Britain at the beginning.

00:04:11.000 They were the greatest empire on earth.

00:04:13.000 We broke away from that and took a gamble, a roll of the dice.

00:04:16.000 Why?

00:04:17.000 Because we would not live under tyranny and we wanted liberty.

00:04:21.000 Liberty.

00:04:23.000 And that's why, by the way, and that's why you see guys like Gates in Congress, these fighting, hey, we're not winning every battle, but we got to plan eventually to win all the battles and to take the house with MAGA Republicans.

00:04:37.000 How many pre-commissions?

00:04:39.000 Listen, I'm just glad we're not losing every battle.

00:04:41.000 You know, it feels so often, as I said yesterday, like the leaders in both parties work for the same special interests.

00:04:49.000 And we've got to show a distinction, a vision, something that draws people in in a positive and inclusive way.

00:04:56.000 But that doesn't mean painting in the pastels.

00:04:58.000 We draw people in by being bold, by offering bold solutions like we see from President Trump.

00:05:04.000 And they don't have to be complicated.

00:05:05.000 Oftentimes, it's the application of common sense, and that gets drained out of how we make decisions because so many of them sell out to the lobbyists and special interests and the donor class, and they forget all about their connection to the people.

00:05:19.000 And so if we restore that connection by empowering this group, we will see better governance, a stronger Republican Party, and more victories on the way.

00:05:27.000 All right.

00:05:28.000 So now we got to get into it.

00:05:31.000 I gave you guys both a heads up, all right?

00:05:33.000 Buckle up, everybody, right?

00:05:34.000 Now, you guys know this.

00:05:35.000 I said go hard on him.

00:05:37.000 I'm going to, I'm a big fan of Matt Gates.

00:05:39.000 We all like Matt, right?

00:05:40.000 Matt's, but I'm going to.

00:05:42.000 Well, Charlie, you weren't going to get me a speaker.

00:05:46.000 This comes from a place of love.

00:05:47.000 Yes or no?

00:05:48.000 Up or down vote.

00:05:49.000 Speaker Johnson, what do you guys think?

00:05:51.000 Mostly good?

00:05:53.000 You guys like what he's doing?

00:05:54.000 I think he's been a colossal disappointment.

00:05:59.000 A lot of room for growth.

00:06:01.000 But here he is.

00:06:02.000 I have a biblical worldview.

00:06:03.000 I'm a Christian.

00:06:04.000 What's going on, Matt?

00:06:06.000 I'd like to tell you.

00:06:07.000 Listen, if I had to give Speaker Johnson a grade, it would be an I, incomplete, because there is a great deal of work ahead that we must endeavor upon.

00:06:15.000 But keep in mind a few facts, where we were and where we've come to.

00:06:19.000 Kevin McCarthy told us that we could release no more January 6 tapes, that that was completely over.

00:06:25.000 Now there's more work to do, but we got more tapes out.

00:06:29.000 Kevin McCarthy, for seven months, had bottlenecked all the subpoenas.

00:06:34.000 Did you really believe the investigations of these folks was serious in the absence of sending the first subpoena for seven months?

00:06:42.000 We got the first subpoenas to Hunter and Frank Biden out in days under Speaker Johnson.

00:06:46.000 More work to do, but that's directionally correct.

00:06:49.000 Now, and on the spending matters, we had only passed two single-subject appropriations bills for seven months under Kevin McCarthy.

00:06:59.000 Out of the 12, we've only got, I think, three left to get to under Speaker Johnson.

00:07:04.000 So we're not winning every fight.

00:07:05.000 Mike Johnson was never going to be Matt Gates.

00:07:08.000 We're two different people.

00:07:10.000 If I ran for House Speaker on the best day with the wind at my back, with all of the stars aligned, I could maybe get 11 votes.

00:07:19.000 Okay?

00:07:20.000 So you have to recognize that we still have Republicans who want to claw over one another to give more money to Ukraine.

00:07:28.000 Now, under Kevin McCarthy, there were no stipulations, no requirements.

00:07:32.000 Send more money.

00:07:33.000 If it shoots, send it, was the doctrine under McCarthy.

00:07:37.000 Now, Johnson might not be where I am, but he's at least said we're not sending money to Ukraine without a plan for victory or the border.

00:07:45.000 And by the way, we're not going to deficit spend.

00:07:47.000 We're not going to borrow money from China to send it to Ukraine.

00:07:50.000 We're going to take it right out of the rear end of the IRS, and we force the Democrats to say that they'd rather fund the army of IRS agents than the Army fighting Hamas.

00:08:00.000 So the grade is incomplete, but I can't turn this battleship 180 degrees.

00:08:05.000 I think we're turning it in the right way.

00:08:07.000 Help me understand why he said no CRs, and then he lied about that.

00:08:12.000 Well, because he didn't have the votes.

00:08:14.000 But why is Speaker Johnson lying?

00:08:16.000 Maybe they all lie about no CRs because they've all said it, and then we get CRs under the colours.

00:08:20.000 Why is a guy who says he's a Christian lying to us?

00:08:24.000 Well, I think that Mike Johnson viewed this short-term bridge as a way to liberate our social NCRs.

00:08:32.000 But also, Charlie, remember that the original sin in all of this was that debt limit deal, where they underwrote all of the Biden debt.

00:08:39.000 Unfortunately, what they built into that is true.

00:08:42.000 That's DC speak.

00:08:43.000 No, no, no.

00:08:44.000 Shut down the government.

00:08:45.000 Oh, listen. 1.00

00:08:46.000 Shut it down.

00:08:47.000 I stood on the stage yesterday.

00:08:50.000 Shut it down.

00:08:57.000 Shut it down.

00:09:01.000 So here is the unfortunate trigger that was in the debt limit deal.

00:09:06.000 In the event that we exercise max leverage because of what was already approved, not by me, but by the Republicans under McCarthy and McConnell, that that triggers an automatic CR at a 1% reduction across the board.

00:09:21.000 I don't support across the board 1% reductions as some massive victory.

00:09:26.000 I think we need deep vertical cuts to entirely abolish unconstitutional agencies like the Department of Education and the ATF and the EPA.

00:09:37.000 I agree.

00:09:38.000 So, but Matt, really, really quick, do you have any hope that when you guys come back January 15th or January 9th, that we're going to, are we really going to get spending cuts?

00:09:48.000 Look, you don't have a majority that supports spending cuts.

00:09:51.000 Let me be straight with you.

00:09:52.000 When we put up hundreds of amendments to cut spending, you get a lot of the New York Republicans and a lot of the California Republicans that will not vote with the Freedom Caucus and with the fiscal hawks.

00:10:04.000 So the answer to your question is you do not have a majority in the United States House of Representatives that really wants to cut spending.

00:10:11.000 Now, I'm doing everything I can to motivate and persuade them.

00:10:15.000 Look, I look at the squad.

00:10:16.000 There were four of them.

00:10:18.000 And then I look over there now, and every last one of them looks like they're in the squad.

00:10:22.000 So maybe if we get a little bit of courage, more people like Eli Crane and Andy Biggs and Paul Gosar from Arizona.

00:10:30.000 You know, if we get more people like that, send me 10, 20, 30 more fighters to Congress.

00:10:36.000 I've met a lot of them who are running out in this audience tonight, and that backup would be much appreciated.

00:10:41.000 Steve, you got a thought on that?

00:10:42.000 You're staying out of it.

00:10:43.000 I'm staying.

00:10:44.000 No, no.

00:10:45.000 Hey, Gates is one of the smartest young men in this country, and one day will be a president of the United States.

00:10:54.000 The world is in flames, and Bidenomics is a complete and total disaster.

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00:12:12.000 So we have Congressman Matt Gates.

00:12:14.000 I just want to say, Matt, you're doing a great job.

00:12:15.000 This is not directed at you, but I, for one, am pretty upset.

00:12:19.000 I'll just go through the list.

00:12:20.000 We extended 702.

00:12:22.000 We got to make sure the mics are on, guys.

00:12:24.000 We extended FISA 702 for a couple months.

00:12:27.000 So that fight is still looming.

00:12:29.000 No, we say functionally it extended for a year because the way the FISA process is...

00:12:34.000 You're not making the case for Johnson better.

00:12:35.000 I'm not.

00:12:36.000 By the way, I'm here to tell the truth.

00:12:38.000 And I have spent years of my life exposing these abuses in FISA.

00:12:43.000 278,000 of them.

00:12:45.000 When you catch someone breaking the law 278,000 times, you should not reward them.

00:12:51.000 I can't even believe I have to say that.

00:12:52.000 But what they'll do with this short-term extension, every single one of those warrants they have, they will extend it for the full year.

00:12:59.000 And so it functions as a full-year extension.

00:13:01.000 The reason that's important is it drains all the leverage that we have actually pushing for reforms.

00:13:08.000 And the main reform is not some complicated legal jargon.

00:13:11.000 It's just if you're spying on an American, you should have to get a warrant.

00:13:16.000 I can't even believe we have people in our government who are opposed to that.

00:13:19.000 But we have seen over 10,000 people have access to these backdoor searches that they use against Americans.

00:13:25.000 So it gets me upset.

00:13:27.000 Yeah, and you guys all went home.

00:13:30.000 I know you wanted to for Thanksgiving and Christmas break, not really, you know, let's just say working extra hours while the country's in crisis.

00:13:38.000 We come back, you guys come back January 9th.

00:13:41.000 The deal expires January 15th.

00:13:43.000 Here's what I think is going to happen, right?

00:13:45.000 Come back January 9th.

00:13:47.000 Oh, it's an election year.

00:13:48.000 It's an election year.

00:13:49.000 And we might get maybe a modification here or there, but I'm cynical.

00:13:54.000 I'm cynical, Speaker.

00:13:55.000 No, I'll just tell you what you're going to get.

00:13:56.000 All right, tell me.

00:13:57.000 And it is not what I want, and I am fighting like hell against it.

00:14:02.000 But all of the political momentum right now is to go to the 1% cut CR that was negotiated in the debt limit deal.

00:14:11.000 And that's not even a cut.

00:14:12.000 It's a cut in the way of growth.

00:14:14.000 By the way, it's a $78 billion cut.

00:14:17.000 And on top of that, they want to add a $100 billion supplemental, of which $60 billion will go to Ukraine.

00:14:26.000 So that is the way they want to do a 1% cut and then do a big dollop of Ukraine money on top, then more than subsides it.

00:14:34.000 So that is what I'm fighting against.

00:14:36.000 And my problem is no matter who the Speaker of the House is, we got too many big spenders.

00:14:40.000 And we got too many people who still want to fund Ukraine.

00:14:43.000 And we got too many people who still want to extend FISA without any substantial review to the warrant requirement.

00:14:50.000 And that is the Republican Party I face every day.

00:14:53.000 And it's why I need the folks at Turning Point to be more active in sending me more backup to be able to win more of these battles. 0.70

00:14:59.000 We sent you Ana Paulina.

00:15:01.000 You did.

00:15:02.000 We got Ana Paulina Luna.

00:15:03.000 If you send me 30 Ana Paulina Lunas, we will save this country.

00:15:06.000 Yeah, well, that's a big task, but we can go about doing it.

00:15:09.000 And so then going into this legislative session, the 702 is coming up in spring.

00:15:16.000 We might be able to get some moderate reforms on that, but probably not.

00:15:20.000 And then we just passed this trash NDAA bill, this National Defense Authorization Act, which funds our woke military.

00:15:28.000 I know that was a tough vote for you because you have a lot of military in your country. 0.55

00:15:30.000 No, it wasn't, Charlie.

00:15:31.000 I love our military, and I would support a 5% pay raise for them.

00:15:36.000 But the service members in my district are more worried about what is happening to our military than anything else.

00:15:42.000 So while I love and support our military, I am not going to vote for these authorizations for more DEI and CRT and all these things that are changing the military in a really dramatic and negative way for the country.

00:15:55.000 So, but why did Elise Stefanik and Jim Banks, what are they thinking?

00:15:55.000 Yeah.

00:16:00.000 Why are they betraying their voters like this?

00:16:02.000 Look, I don't speak for them.

00:16:04.000 I don't believe there was any strong conservative case to make for this NDAA outside of the 5.5% pay increase, which who among us would want to vote against that with all of it that our service members have to go through.

00:16:16.000 But I made a commitment to the families in my district that I'm not voting to reauthorize weapon systems and new programs if we do not restore the 8,600 people who were separated from the military over an experimental vaccine with their full rank and back pay.

00:16:33.000 And if you get more people to commit to those demands, then you create political momentum for those objectives.

00:16:40.000 But look, Raytheon and General Dynamics and Lockheed, they all got theirs in the NDAA, but I think we left our service member.

00:16:48.000 It's a tough one.

00:16:48.000 Final question, Matt.

00:16:49.000 If Speaker Johnson betrays us again, do we motion to vacate?

00:16:53.000 Well, we have to see what comes next.

00:16:54.000 I mean, when I did that to McCarthy, I undertook a tremendous amount of political risk that, I mean, we have a two-seat majority right now, okay?

00:17:02.000 On any given day, one of these octogenarians I serve with, if they're not on the last hole, they're on the back nine, and we get it to ourselves.

00:17:10.000 McCarthy resigned.

00:17:10.000 Well, McCarthy took his following out.

00:17:14.000 I think McCarthy should have stuck around.

00:17:15.000 If it was about the agenda and what Republicans were trying to do to save the country, he would have just taken his ball and gone home.

00:17:22.000 But I think that was very revealing that it was just about him and his own ability to have laudatory titles.

00:17:28.000 And so I think we can do better.

00:17:29.000 All right, everybody, Matt Gates.

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00:18:25.000 Dr. Lindsay, welcome.

00:18:26.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:18:27.000 So, lots to talk about.

00:18:29.000 Elon Musk has been focusing on DEI.

00:18:33.000 You are an expert in this.

00:18:34.000 For the uninitiated, what is the threat that DEI poses to the American Republic?

00:18:40.000 DEI is the implementation of communism in America through its institutions.

00:18:44.000 That simple.

00:18:45.000 That's how they get communism into our institutions.

00:18:48.000 So we start, just to break it down, what are the words?

00:18:50.000 Diversity, equity, inclusion.

00:18:51.000 What's equity?

00:18:52.000 An administered economy in which shares are adjusted so the citizens are made equal.

00:18:56.000 That's the definition of socialism, too.

00:18:58.000 How about that?

00:18:59.000 And so equity is socialism.

00:19:01.000 Diversity means diverse against the American values and free enterprise system. 0.97

00:19:06.000 So it means outside of the American value system.

00:19:08.000 So you have to bring in people who are against that.

00:19:12.000 It's an excuse to hire people who are against America and against the values of your company or your institution or university.

00:19:17.000 And inclusion is a bunch of policies to make sure they feel welcome and like they belong all the time, which means removing people who disagree with them, giving them special accommodation, giving them special policies and rules, letting them have a seat at the table, letting them take over your thing from the inside.

00:19:33.000 How widespread is the DEI virus in American society?

00:19:37.000 It's completely.

00:19:39.000 It's in virtually every established institution.

00:19:42.000 It's the basis of every university with hundreds of administrators at almost every university.

00:19:47.000 They hire them like crazy.

00:19:49.000 It is completely entrenched in literally everything so that they can do exactly what I just said.

00:19:54.000 Bring communism in through the back door to install it in the United States.

00:19:58.000 It's a multi-billion dollar industry on top of all of the, like what people believe in doesn't matter.

00:20:03.000 Multi-billion, the number of careers built off of this.

00:20:06.000 You have to think about that.

00:20:07.000 What are all these people going to do?

00:20:09.000 Like mid-level management woke desk workers, basically.

00:20:13.000 Bureaucrats that are similar, and you're the only one, James, and you deserve great credit that I've heard and other people have copied you.

00:20:20.000 Similar to the Mao model, which is not only do you have bad ideas, but you have a red guard to enforce those ideas.

00:20:28.000 That's right.

00:20:29.000 Yeah, so the idea there is that Mao had this formula called unity, criticism, unity, and he enforced it through identity politics, which should sound really familiar.

00:20:40.000 He had categories relevant to communism, like rich farmer, counter-revolutionary.

00:20:44.000 We have racist, transphobe, homophobe.

00:20:47.000 Those are called the enemies of the people back in Mao's time.

00:20:50.000 And then there are the people, the allies, the activists, the administrators.

00:20:55.000 And like I said, we're talking 100, 150 of these on the taxpayer dime at every university.

00:21:01.000 Every corporation, if they want their ESG score to be good, has to have these people to make sure their policies are all in.

00:21:06.000 It is, in fact, the implementation of a crude social credit system without the digital aspect yet.

00:21:12.000 So, but James, let me ask you: do our elites or the people are they consciously copying Mao or accidentally copying Mao?

00:21:19.000 There are very good reasons to believe that many of the people who are at the, I guess, elite of the elite status know they are copying Mao.

00:21:26.000 They saw the insurgency tactics.

00:21:27.000 They know they work.

00:21:29.000 We know, for example, that they followed the theories of Herbert Marcuse, who appealed to Mao in his writing over and over and over again as neo-Marxist writings of the 60s.

00:21:38.000 We know that they built their education system around the critical pedagogy of Paul O'Fredi, who came from Brazil.

00:21:44.000 Well, in the foot, I don't know if I ever told you, it's in the footnote of the first chapter, Paul O'Fredi says his education system, his model, is based off of Mao Zedong and what he's doing in China.

00:21:53.000 So I think they do know.

00:21:56.000 The Mao model also includes, as you mentioned, a social credit system score, but they must get the youth to enforce this. 0.85

00:22:06.000 That was the key, wasn't it?

00:22:08.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:22:08.000 Take over education, build their social and emotional lives out so that they're going to always enforce the new set of policies, the new values, so that they can be part of the people and they can denounce and hate the enemies of the people.

00:22:21.000 That's an intrinsic part of the entire program.

00:22:23.000 So let me ask you: the Mao takeover, the Cultural Revolution, they had a little red book.

00:22:30.000 I've never asked you this before.

00:22:32.000 What is the equivalent of the little red book here in America?

00:22:35.000 There's nothing that concise that's the equivalent of the little red book, but I will tell you there's a big red book.

00:22:41.000 There's a very large academic volume called Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings That Formed the Movement.

00:22:47.000 And the critical race theorists, if you ask, do they know that they're Maoists, used to refer to it as the big red book.

00:22:53.000 They knew what they were doing.

00:22:54.000 A lot of the radicals from the 60s who went into education, went into the different institutions, went into employment, went into HR, they were Maoists in the 60s and 70s.

00:23:04.000 They knew who they were.

00:23:05.000 They knew what they were doing.

00:23:06.000 Would you say what Turning Point is doing is one of the great threats to the Maoification of America?

00:23:12.000 Yeah, let me tell you a story, as a matter of fact.

00:23:14.000 I got invited to speak on the campus of Northwestern, which they told me while I was there, has 8,700 students, 100 of whom are conservative.

00:23:22.000 So they're outnumbered 86 to 1 on campus.

00:23:24.000 And they let the woke in to heckle me during my talk.

00:23:28.000 And it was just crazy, right?

00:23:30.000 And so, a couple points.

00:23:31.000 I'm talking literally about intersectionality and how it's Maoism in America.

00:23:35.000 And the woke kids in the room were cheering for Mao.

00:23:39.000 They were cheering. 0.96

00:23:40.000 When I said Mao would round up the landlords and have them killed, they cheered. 0.87

00:23:44.000 When I said that, you know, Mao unleashed a red guard from the youth to transform the society and to destroy people's lives and humiliate them, they cheered. 0.67

00:23:52.000 And I said, if you really like Mao, cheer for your dictator.

00:23:55.000 And a whole bunch of the kids in the back clapped with the masks on.

00:23:58.000 You know which kids they were.

00:23:59.000 Not the good kids.

00:24:01.000 And so, but what Turning Point is doing is a threat to Maoism because if there can be even some disharmony with the kind of youth, we have a shot, right?

00:24:11.000 Well, this is the thing.

00:24:12.000 Turning point is present on campuses, especially now high schools.

00:24:16.000 And it is just that 86 to 1 ratio, that one is very, very active because of Turning Point.

00:24:23.000 And it's crucial.

00:24:25.000 If you can have even 3% of the population of some institution fighting back, they're not going to be able to get their hooks in.

00:24:31.000 That's turning point.

00:24:32.000 So let's keep diving into this.

00:24:34.000 I appreciate the kind words.

00:24:36.000 We're seeing something, and I haven't asked you about this, but it's certainly not according to the plan with this Israel Hamas donors pulling money, Bill Ackman asking questions.

00:24:48.000 How should we think about this, James?

00:24:50.000 Is this a big deal?

00:24:51.000 Is this a little thing that's going to go away?

00:24:54.000 No, this is a big deal.

00:24:55.000 This is a moment where...

00:24:57.000 One way to think about this is like the communists are kind of like magic wizards.

00:25:01.000 They like cast a spell so that you don't see society real.

00:25:04.000 Like clearly, I mean it.

00:25:06.000 They really are.

00:25:07.000 The dialectical wizards.

00:25:08.000 We can get into that another time.

00:25:10.000 But you can't see reality correctly because the words are messed up.

00:25:13.000 They frame everything wrong.

00:25:15.000 Diversity doesn't mean diversity.

00:25:17.000 Inclusion means exclusion.

00:25:18.000 Everything's upside down.

00:25:19.000 Cats are dogs.

00:25:20.000 Black is white. 0.99

00:25:21.000 Hot is cold.

00:25:22.000 It's really, they do this.

00:25:23.000 And moments like what happened with the Israel event are a moment where lots of normal people see through the distortion.

00:25:30.000 And they're like, wait, what?

00:25:32.000 And so you see Bill Ackman asking questions.

00:25:34.000 In fact, asking very pointed questions, very vigorous questions.

00:25:37.000 You see people all of a sudden that were just kind of sleepily giving money again and again and again, huge endowments to these universities, saying, I'm not going to.

00:25:46.000 Harvard's down a billion in donations.

00:25:49.000 So this is a huge wake-up moment.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, so what can we do, mostly as conservatives, to help accelerate this civil war of the woke versus the classical liberals?

00:26:01.000 Because that's really what we're seeing, right?

00:26:02.000 That's right.

00:26:03.000 They were previously partners, previously allies, or at least previously in the same institutions.

00:26:09.000 And there's a schism happening.

00:26:11.000 There's a great schism that could go down in history of classical liberals versus the woke comes.

00:26:18.000 That's right.

00:26:18.000 It's our job to get educated enough so these people who are starting to see through it and they have questions can find people they trust that have answers that make sense.

00:26:28.000 If we can't give them answers that make sense, they're going to get sucked back into the distortion field.

00:26:32.000 They're going to say, oh, well, we need DEI to just include Jews now too. 0.57

00:26:36.000 Exactly the wrong answer.

00:26:38.000 So let's talk about that because there was somebody on our show recently and her argument, and I just heard her out and I didn't challenge her, was we need a new civil rights just for Jewish students.

00:26:50.000 I don't think that's a good idea.

00:26:51.000 Do you agree?

00:26:52.000 We've got to stop building bureaucratic apparatuses that get taken over.

00:26:56.000 Even if it came out of its conception and its building is a good thing.

00:27:00.000 It's going to get taken over and infiltrated immediately.

00:27:02.000 The woke love monopolies and bureaucracies and they take them over like crazy. 0.90

00:27:06.000 It's the exact opposite.

00:27:07.000 We need to start talking about people being individuals, seeing people as individuals, and protecting everybody's civil rights, which is a Christian idea.

00:27:14.000 And we've talked about this, right?

00:27:16.000 It's a Western idea that neither slave nor Greek nor Jew, but you are all one in Christ Jesus, made in the image of God, not part of your tribe, not part of your sect, not part of your group.

00:27:26.000 That sort of thinking is very destructive and it's anti-Western at its core.

00:27:30.000 So, James, I'm seeing this play out.

00:27:33.000 And the Ackman thing is interesting because he singled out in his letter something that you wouldn't expect.

00:27:39.000 He said, Harvard is also anti-white.

00:27:43.000 Where does that come from?

00:27:45.000 I mean, it's very obvious that critical race theory holds up whiteness as one of its enemies of the people category.

00:27:51.000 It's just an unambiguous thing.

00:27:53.000 This, of course, I think is primarily a provocation.

00:27:55.000 It's very, very tempting to fall into the identity of white people. 0.87

00:27:58.000 What do you mean by that?

00:27:59.000 So, like, if somebody says, you know, oh, it's black versus white, it's black versus white, black versus white, long enough, people will say, well, I'm on the white team, okay.

00:28:06.000 And then all of a sudden, you're affirming the identity politics that my group is more important than the individual.

00:28:12.000 And so it's an operation to get people to play the part of reinforcing the entire intersectional mindset.

00:28:20.000 What we need to be doing is saying, no, I want to know you for your character.

00:28:23.000 I want to know you for who you are.

00:28:24.000 I want to know you for what you can accomplish.

00:28:26.000 I want to know that if you can, can you produce more than you consume?

00:28:29.000 I want to know those things about you.

00:28:31.000 And I want to know you for who you are as a person.

00:28:33.000 Yeah, and what is clear, Ackman, he was regretful he did not realize the anti-white agenda.

00:28:42.000 He said it himself.

00:28:43.000 What do they mean by whiteness?

00:28:45.000 Whiteness is actually a form of cultural property that white people are said to be implicated in.

00:28:51.000 So they're not technically critical race theory is not anti-white, except in practice.

00:28:56.000 In theory, it's not.

00:28:58.000 In theory, whiteness as a form of cultural property that white people gave themselves, what Marx called bourgeois cultural property, is something that has to be abolished.

00:29:07.000 So they technically, the goal of critical race theory isn't necessarily to get rid of white people or something like that.

00:29:14.000 It's to shame white people into joining the revolution. 0.73

00:29:17.000 It's to shame white people out of holding cultural values toward capitalism, toward freedom. 0.99

00:29:21.000 It's not about killing them. 0.99

00:29:22.000 It's about making them like serfs and slaves or something. 0.99

00:29:26.000 Yeah, just like Mao.

00:29:27.000 Oh, okay.

00:29:28.000 It's land reform for people.

00:29:31.000 Mao took the farms to do land reform to reorganize who owned the farms, who owned the land.

00:29:36.000 It was a disaster.

00:29:37.000 Millions of people died.

00:29:38.000 This is the same thing with cultural property instead of physical property.

00:29:41.000 James, you and I are going to be dialoguing on stage in a little bit.

00:29:43.000 You guys should all check it out.

00:29:44.000 He's so smart, everybody.

00:29:46.000 I love my conversations with Dr. Lindsay.

00:29:49.000 He's amazing.

00:29:49.000 Plug your book in your deal, James.

00:29:51.000 I got all kinds of deals.

00:29:52.000 You can find me on social at ConceptualJames.

00:29:56.000 Website is newdiscourses.com.

00:29:59.000 That's newdiscourses.com.

00:30:01.000 I got a book, Race Marxism, another book.

00:30:04.000 That's a great book, by the way.

00:30:05.000 Marxification.

00:30:06.000 Cynical theories, race Marxism.

00:30:08.000 Got a new one coming.

00:30:09.000 Oh, the queering of the American Child. 0.92

00:30:11.000 Wow.

00:30:12.000 About queer theory in education.

00:30:14.000 You won't want to miss it.

00:30:14.000 It's coming in March, probably.

00:30:16.000 We're going to buy a bunch.

00:30:17.000 Dr. Lindsay, thank you so much.

00:30:18.000 Thanks, Charlie.

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00:32:17.000 With us is Tom Holman.

00:32:19.000 So, Tom, I have in front of me IDs of people that are now in America that dropped their IDs before they enter America.

00:32:27.000 So, this guy is from China, this ID here.

00:32:32.000 And another Chinese national.

00:32:34.000 These are fighting-age males, Tom.

00:32:36.000 Yes.

00:32:36.000 These are fighting-age males from China.

00:32:39.000 We have Russia here.

00:32:40.000 This is a, looks like a Russian seal, right?

00:32:43.000 That's the Federation.

00:32:44.000 I don't know.

00:32:45.000 Yeah, okay.

00:32:46.000 It's not showing up on the Russian Federation.

00:32:50.000 What else?

00:32:50.000 Oh, we have Nepal.

00:32:52.000 You know, I'm told that these people are just seeking asylum.

00:32:54.000 They're seeking asylum from India.

00:32:56.000 We have a lot of Indian passports here.

00:32:58.000 Republic of India coming in.

00:33:01.000 These are real passports that they drop.

00:33:03.000 Tell us about this, Tom.

00:33:04.000 Well, they dropped the passports before they entered the United States because they don't want us to know who they are.

00:33:09.000 Right?

00:33:09.000 So, as you can see, I've been down there and I've seen thousands of these things down there.

00:33:13.000 People need to understand.

00:33:14.000 Border Patrol has arrested people from 171 different countries.

00:33:18.000 That's China right there. 0.83

00:33:19.000 Some of these countries sponsor terror.

00:33:22.000 We've got 1.8 million known gotaways.

00:33:24.000 People need to understand.

00:33:25.000 8.1 million crossed the border, weren't arrested, weren't fingerprinted.

00:33:29.000 Why didn't they take advantage of the Biden giveaway program?

00:33:33.000 Pay less, turn yourself in, get released within 24 hours, get a plane ticket to the city of your choice, get work authorization five to seven years.

00:33:40.000 Why would you not take advantage of that giveaway?

00:33:43.000 1.8 million people chose to pay more to get away.

00:33:46.000 That's why we have these documents.

00:33:48.000 They don't want to know who we are.

00:33:49.000 People say, well, we bet them.

00:33:50.000 Even the people at Boro Cho arrest, they get vetted with the information that's available to us.

00:33:56.000 So you think China is going to share with us any national security science?

00:34:00.000 Of course not.

00:34:01.000 So when they leave these passports south, we don't know who they are.

00:34:04.000 If we can't find them in any system, then they can claim whoever they want to be.

00:34:08.000 And they're in America then. 0.69

00:34:10.000 We got almost 9 million have been counted on the border since Joe Biden president.

00:34:14.000 So I have a bunch of IDs here.

00:34:16.000 You know what I don't see?

00:34:17.000 I don't see a lot of Central Americans.

00:34:19.000 This mostly India, Russia, China, of the people that are coming and invading our country on a daily basis. 1.00

00:34:24.000 So help me understand, Tom.

00:34:26.000 Our government has spent $200 billion saying that we're at war against Russia, and then Russians just waltz right into our country. 0.98

00:34:33.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:34:35.000 Look, what's happening on the southern border is the biggest national security failure in this country since 9-11.

00:34:41.000 I'm telling you, 1.8 million gotaways, 171 different countries.

00:34:46.000 I'll say it again.

00:34:47.000 Some of these countries are sponsor of terror.

00:34:49.000 Southwest Border alone last year, 227 people on terrorist watch lists.

00:34:54.000 Same time on the northern border, 432.

00:34:57.000 659 people on terrorist watch lists were actually arrested.

00:35:00.000 How many in the 1.8 came here to do something wrong with this country? 1.00

00:35:04.000 This is a serious national security failure, and this is a self-inflicted wound.

00:35:09.000 Under President Trump, in four years, 11 were arrested.

00:35:13.000 They arrested 18 just last month.

00:35:15.000 The border was never more secure than it was under President Trump.

00:35:18.000 And we're going to make it secure again under President Trump.

00:35:22.000 And this is just a taste, everybody.

00:35:24.000 I could go through the country after country.

00:35:26.000 So they dropped their IDs because these people might be rapists.

00:35:29.000 These people might be murderers, right?

00:35:30.000 Border Patrols are already arrested.

00:35:32.000 People they actually catch.

00:35:33.000 Over 86,000 convicted criminals, including 106 convicted murderers, were caught entering their country.

00:35:40.000 So, I mean, I look at these Chinese guys.

00:35:42.000 These are 25-year-old muscular fighting-age males.

00:35:45.000 Look at this one.

00:35:46.000 It's a Mexican ID. 0.70

00:35:48.000 So he went to Mexico, stayed there long enough to be able to get an ID.

00:35:50.000 He's a Chinese Communist Party national.

00:35:52.000 It says right here, his name is Lee.

00:35:55.000 And this other guy, Chinese Communist Party national, right here.

00:35:59.000 Do you think the CCP is sending them over?

00:36:02.000 Absolutely.

00:36:03.000 They're poisoning this country with fentanyl, right?

00:36:06.000 They're sending military age males over. 0.91

00:36:07.000 Look, the Biden administration hasn't done anything about it.

00:36:09.000 And we're in a security, national security affair.

00:36:12.000 Something bad's coming.

00:36:13.000 I'm telling you.

00:36:15.000 This is the biggest national security affair ever.

00:36:17.000 And they haven't done anything to fix it.

00:36:19.000 They haven't held China accountable to the fentanyl.

00:36:21.000 They're not holding China accountable for the smuggling.

00:36:23.000 They haven't held Mexico accountable for allowing people to transit through the country.

00:36:26.000 In this country of Mexico, you actually have to treat a transit visa to transit through Mexico.

00:36:32.000 They're not enforced at all either.

00:36:34.000 This one right here is a baby from India.

00:36:36.000 Right there.

00:36:37.000 Baby from India.

00:36:39.000 Mumbai into America.

00:36:41.000 And look at these.

00:36:42.000 Look at this guy.

00:36:43.000 This guy looks like he's going to culturally enrich the country.

00:36:47.000 This is your new American citizen, everybody.

00:36:49.000 Or not citizen.

00:36:50.000 He really looks like he's great.

00:36:52.000 Or how about this guy here?

00:36:54.000 This is great.

00:36:55.000 This is a great replacement in real time, by the way.

00:36:57.000 They're replacing us. 0.92

00:36:58.000 That's what they're doing.

00:36:59.000 Anybody who says it is not looking at the facts.

00:37:01.000 Tom, I'm so glad that you're here.

00:37:03.000 And the Russia one, by the way.

00:37:04.000 Oh, Russia is the greatest threat ever. 0.99

00:37:06.000 We hate Vladimir Putin. 0.97

00:37:07.000 Oh, Russians are coming in. 1.00

00:37:08.000 Well, welcome into America.

00:37:10.000 Tom, you're doing great, Border 911.

00:37:12.000 Can't wait to see you on stage.

00:37:14.000 Thank you so much.

00:37:14.000 Thank you.

00:37:15.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 18, 2023

Steve Bannon's Insane Prediction About Matt Gaetz

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