The Charlie Kirk Show - August 09, 2023


Stop Using Porn, You Degenerates with Terry Schilling and Mike Davis


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Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we talk to Mike Davis from the Article 3 Project about ways we can fight back against Democratic lawfare and the national exhaustion we are living through. And finally, Terry Schilling from the American Principles Project joins us to talk about pornography and porn use among young people.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we talk to Mike Davis from the Article 3 project.
00:00:04.000 We talk about some creative ways we can fight back and also the national exhaustion campaign we are living through.
00:00:10.000 And finally, how do we get young people to use pornography less?
00:00:13.000 Terry Schilling from the American Principles Project joins us.
00:00:17.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and get involved with turning pointusa at tpusa.com.
00:00:23.000 That is tpusa.com.
00:00:26.000 That is tpusa.com.
00:00:29.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:30.000 Here we go.
00:00:31.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:33.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:35.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:38.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:41.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:42.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:43.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
00:00:50.000 Turning point USA. 0.65
00:00:52.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:01:13.000 Joining us now is Mike Davis, Article 3 Project.
00:01:16.000 Mike, thank you for taking time.
00:01:19.000 Tons of angles here in regards to the Maoist persecution of Donald Trump.
00:01:25.000 I want to get your reaction to Matt Gates' creative idea, where he says that Donald Trump could become a witness in front of the United States House of Representatives, and that would immunize him from prosecution.
00:01:36.000 Is that realistic?
00:01:39.000 I think House Republicans should do whatever it takes to end this lawfare against President Trump.
00:01:46.000 This is obvious lawfare.
00:01:48.000 We've been talking about this, Charlie.
00:01:50.000 You and I have been talking about this for a year since the Mar-a-Lago raid last August.
00:01:55.000 It started with Alvin Bragg's bogus indictment of Trump for the non-crime of a businessman settling a nuisance claim.
00:02:02.000 Then we had Jack Smith indict Trump for the non-crime of a former president having his presidential records, which is allowed by the Presidential Records Act.
00:02:09.000 Now we have Jack Smith indicting Trump for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 and the First Amendment.
00:02:18.000 We saw New York Attorney General Tish James file a civil lawsuit against Trump for the non-fraud of a businessman paying back sophisticated banks in full with interest.
00:02:31.000 Fulton County DA Fannie Willis is going to indict Trump this month for non-crimes related to January 6th.
00:02:38.000 This is all out lawfare against President Trump because Democrats fear he's going to beat Biden like a drum on November 7th, 2024.
00:02:47.000 So House Republicans should do whatever it takes legally and politically to end this Democrat lawfare driven by President Biden against Trump.
00:02:56.000 That includes impeachments.
00:02:58.000 That includes defunding.
00:02:59.000 That includes whatever they need to do in the House of Representatives.
00:03:02.000 Haul people in for oversight, demand their records, demand their documents.
00:03:06.000 This is a zero-sum game.
00:03:07.000 Democrats are on offense because we do not have them on defense.
00:03:12.000 So, talk about your idea, which is around using the appropriations bill or a ryder bill saying no federal funds may be used to prosecute a major presidential candidate.
00:03:24.000 Now, that would actually then stop investigations into Joe or Hunter Biden.
00:03:29.000 Is that also potentially an application?
00:03:32.000 You know what?
00:03:33.000 Those investigations are going nowhere.
00:03:36.000 We saw special counsel Rob Herr being appointed, a uniparty deep state prosecutor appointed by Merrick Garland to investigate Biden for having five stashes of stolen classified records moved several times, unguarded for years, accessible by the Biden's Chinese agent, and almost certainly used by Hunter to secure tens of millions of dollars in foreign bribes and other corruption for every Biden family member,
00:04:03.000 except for the five-year-old granddaughter who Joe and Jill just acknowledged because they came under political heat.
00:04:10.000 These investigations are going nowhere under Merrick Garland and the Biden Justice Department against Biden.
00:04:16.000 And so this is unprecedented election interference, unprecedented indictments of a former president, unprecedented indictments of a leading presidential candidate.
00:04:26.000 So my appropriations writer would simply say this: no federal funds may be used to prosecute a major presidential candidate on or before November 7th, 2024.
00:04:38.000 And what that does is it just pauses these investigations and it lets the American people decide who our next president is going to be.
00:04:47.000 Instead of a Biden-picked special counsel Jack Smith, an Obama judge, this Tanya Shutkin, and a D.C. jury that's 95% Trump derange.
00:04:58.000 There is no chance that Trump is going to get a fair trial in D.C. He's going to be railroaded.
00:05:02.000 There's no chance he's going to get a fair appeal with the Obama-stacked D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals.
00:05:09.000 The Supreme Court will certainly overturn this bogus criminal conviction against Trump like they overturned Jack Smith's bogus criminal conviction of former Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell unanimously, eight to nothing.
00:05:21.000 It would have been nine to nothing if Justice Scalia didn't pass away.
00:05:24.000 But the problem is the Supreme Court will almost certainly not be able to resolve this before November 7th, 2024.
00:05:30.000 So House Republicans need to step up.
00:05:33.000 If I were to kind of read the room here, Mike, I think in some ways the bad guys have already won because we've normalized now this idea of threatening a political challenge to a current president with 600 years of prison.
00:05:50.000 And I think the reason that the reaction has not been as fierce is we are an exhausted nation.
00:06:00.000 Think about it.
00:06:02.000 From the lockdowns to the COVID lies to the vaccines to the Floyd Apalooza riots to the 2020 stuff to January 6th, we are an exhausted people.
00:06:11.000 We are fatigued.
00:06:13.000 And we get that feedback often.
00:06:15.000 And I see it in our base and I see it.
00:06:18.000 People say, Charlie, when is this going to be over?
00:06:21.000 We are exhausted.
00:06:22.000 We're desensitized.
00:06:23.000 And Mike, if I were to kind of go a level deeper into the strategy of Jack Smith and these deranged lunatics, they are capitalizing on the exhaustion of the American right.
00:06:37.000 Mike Davis.
00:06:38.000 I 100% agree with you, Charlie.
00:06:41.000 This is, for them, this is a war of attrition.
00:06:44.000 They're just trying to beat us into submission as a country.
00:06:48.000 They do not want us challenging their regime.
00:06:51.000 They do not want us questioning their election interference.
00:06:54.000 They don't want us even questioning elections.
00:06:57.000 It is not a crime to challenge elections.
00:07:00.000 It is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887.
00:07:04.000 It is not a crime to twist arms politically.
00:07:07.000 That is allowed by the First Amendment.
00:07:08.000 It is only a crime to question elections and third world Marxist hellholes like Zimbabwe and now Atlanta and D.C. and New York. 0.99
00:07:20.000 Yeah, and I mean, I hesitate to say that we are a third world country, but our legal system is certainly currently acting like it in more ways than one.
00:07:30.000 And so I don't see, Mike, from the Congress any sort of rapidity or action considering the dramatic moves that not just Alvin Bragg, that's one thing, but Jack Smith and DOJ and soon to be Fannie Willis.
00:07:50.000 I don't see the anger.
00:07:52.000 And when I talk to some of these lawmakers, you know, some of these congressmen, they say, yeah, Charlie, it's like, man, we're just overwhelmed.
00:07:58.000 It's like, what else do you want us to do?
00:08:00.000 That's what I want you to do.
00:08:00.000 Fight.
00:08:01.000 That's why we sent you there.
00:08:03.000 If you are a sunshine patriot, go park cars.
00:08:07.000 Like, go run a coffee shop.
00:08:09.000 Go sell insurance.
00:08:11.000 Those are good things to do.
00:08:12.000 I'm not demeaning those things.
00:08:13.000 There's some people in our audience do that.
00:08:15.000 Don't get into the lawmaking industry and or the culture war fight and then tell me that you don't have the energy or the spirit to fight the regime, Mike Davis.
00:08:26.000 I would say to these politicians in Washington, D.C., it seems like the D.C. swamp is the only place on the planet where the reptiles lack backbones.
00:08:35.000 And if these House Republicans do not understand that these are republic-ending tactics by the Biden regime, they do not deserve to be in office.
00:08:46.000 So if they don't think that now is the time to fight, this is so much bigger than Donald Trump.
00:08:52.000 This is not going to end with Donald Trump.
00:08:54.000 They're not going to just go away if Donald Trump goes away.
00:08:57.000 They're going to be emboldened.
00:08:58.000 And they have been emboldened over the last year since the Mar-a-Lago raid, because it seemed like for the first six months of this, it seemed like I was the only person out there defending Donald Trump and fighting back against this.
00:09:11.000 I think these Republican politicians are slowly starting to find their backbones.
00:09:16.000 But if they don't find their backbones now, they don't deserve to be in office because we're going to lose our country.
00:09:21.000 So who gives a damn if we control the House or control the Senate? 0.95
00:09:25.000 If they're not willing to fight now, then screw them, primary them, stay home. 0.99
00:09:30.000 Yeah, we're not resting. 0.98
00:09:33.000 We don't have time to rest.
00:09:34.000 We have to try to figure out how to raise money for ballot chasing because the RNC is a complete waste of rations.
00:09:39.000 We're doing everything we can to start high school and college campuses, pastor summits.
00:09:44.000 We don't rest around here maybe a day or two if necessary.
00:09:48.000 But I do not know the solution to solving the mass societal conservative movement exhaustion.
00:09:56.000 People are done.
00:09:57.000 People have scandal fatigue.
00:09:58.000 They're so desensitized to it.
00:10:00.000 They're like, can I just have my life back?
00:10:02.000 Can I just sit on my porch and drink Bud Light and have a gave pride flag? 0.87
00:10:07.000 Because those two things, you know, like whatever.
00:10:09.000 You know, can I, you know, who cares?
00:10:12.000 And that's what their strategy is.
00:10:15.000 They're trying to, they're trying to invoke your surrender.
00:10:19.000 They're trying to surround the city, cut off your supply chains, have you raise the white flag and demoralize you after three years because they've hold this entire civilization hostage from 15 days to slow the spread to today.
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00:11:52.000 I just want to say our audience is amazing, and I'm not suggesting our audience is giving up or anything like that.
00:11:57.000 But macro, we hear a lot of this exhaustion and fatigue.
00:12:00.000 But the one group of people that are not exhausted and fatigued are our turning point students.
00:12:06.000 They're fired up.
00:12:07.000 They are ready.
00:12:08.000 It's fresh legs.
00:12:08.000 You know, we're like, Mike Davis, we're in triple overtime, right?
00:12:12.000 And now you have these like 16, 17, and 18-year-old kids that have fresh legs and they're ready to keep fighting.
00:12:17.000 But, Mike Davis, what other creative ideas?
00:12:19.000 Because I am underwhelmed.
00:12:21.000 I'm looking at Congress and I get a lot of yammering and money to Ukraine and all this.
00:12:25.000 And either they are denying or they're afraid to say the weight, the heaviness, the significance of this all-out Maoist persecution of Donald Trump.
00:12:37.000 I would say to the people who are exhausted, let's just touch on that very fast, Charlie.
00:12:40.000 You talked about going back to COVID, how everything changed, and you're exactly right.
00:12:45.000 And the reason the Marxist left has gotten away with their COVID lockdowns and their BLM riots and their equity and their lawfare against Trump is because we've let them get away with it for too long.
00:12:58.000 And it is time for us to fight back politically and legally and say enough is enough.
00:13:03.000 We're not going to take this anymore.
00:13:05.000 And I want people to understand: if we give up now, if you want COVID lockdowns where we lose our God-given rights to speak, associate worship, we're going to lose our God-given right to protect ourselves.
00:13:17.000 That will become permanent if we lose elections as conservatives.
00:13:22.000 Because here's the decisive question for the next election, the November 7th, 2024 election.
00:13:28.000 Do you want President Trump or President Biden replacing Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court?
00:13:34.000 Because everything is on the line.
00:13:36.000 If conservatives lose control of the Supreme Court, it is game over America.
00:13:42.000 There is no chance we will keep our God-given rights to speak, associate, worship, and protect ourselves.
00:13:48.000 We will have permanent COVID lockdowns.
00:13:50.000 We will have permanent censorship.
00:13:52.000 They will take away our guns and they will try to control our lives.
00:13:56.000 Yeah, and I just want to say, for you know, we're getting a ton of emails, Mike Davis, hundreds.
00:14:01.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
00:14:02.000 Charlie, I'm exhausted.
00:14:03.000 I'm tired.
00:14:04.000 You hit it perfectly.
00:14:05.000 You know, we just want to hear some victories, see some victories.
00:14:08.000 And I get all of that.
00:14:10.000 And it's totally understandable.
00:14:14.000 And this is why our young kids are not phased by it because they know nothing but crisis.
00:14:19.000 For their entire life, they've known nothing but 15 days to slow the spread.
00:14:22.000 Oh my gosh, Donald Trump is a fascist dictator, or my generation has known nothing but 9-11 and al-Qaeda and the 2008 financial crisis.
00:14:31.000 My life has really been defined by just one rolling crisis after the other. 0.88
00:14:35.000 Part of our audience, I mean, that's just really quick: part of our audience remembers a Pax Americana time of the 1980s.
00:14:42.000 And they're a little bit bitter.
00:14:44.000 Why can't we have that country back quickly?
00:14:47.000 Mike Davis.
00:14:48.000 We can have that country back.
00:14:50.000 And how we're going to get that country back, how we're going to end this lawfare, is by putting President Trump back in the White House on November 7th, 2024.
00:15:00.000 And we will end that lawfare immediately.
00:15:03.000 That's the only way this is going to stop is by winning the next election and telling these Marxist Democrats with their puppet Joe Biden, their evil shell of a human being.
00:15:16.000 We're going to tell them that the American people get to decide elections.
00:15:21.000 Not your Democrat prosecutor, your Democrat judge, and your Democrat jury in D.C., New York City, or Atlanta.
00:15:28.000 We can take back this country.
00:15:31.000 from the Marxist left in this next election.
00:15:33.000 And then we can end all of this stuff.
00:15:36.000 Well, you know, that's the, what I hope conservatives learned over the last four years is this is not our parents or grandparents Democrat Party.
00:15:45.000 These are not liberals who love America.
00:15:47.000 These are leftists.
00:15:48.000 These are Marxist. 0.95
00:15:49.000 They hate America. 0.97
00:15:50.000 They're trying to destroy America. 0.91
00:15:52.000 We saw this during the Kavanaugh Confirmation where they wanted to destroy due process.
00:15:57.000 They wanted Me Too justice and the presumption of guilt.
00:16:00.000 We saw this during COVID lockdowns where they want to, they don't believe in free speech.
00:16:04.000 They believe in censorship under the guise of misinformation, disinformation.
00:16:10.000 Now they want to throw political prisoners.
00:16:13.000 They want to put people in prison, their political enemies in prison, like we saw with January 6th defendants.
00:16:18.000 People who got out of control on January 6th and trespassed and took selfies are political prisoners in Washington, D.C.
00:16:26.000 And of course, they don't stop with the political prisoners.
00:16:28.000 Now they're going after the former president and potential future president of the United States.
00:16:33.000 This is not going to stop with Donald Trump.
00:16:36.000 They will come after all of us.
00:16:38.000 Mike, we're out of time.
00:16:39.000 Thank you so much.
00:16:40.000 And just remember, they are striking.
00:16:41.000 They are striking through a war of attrition.
00:16:43.000 They're trying to wear you down and demoralize you.
00:16:45.000 Mike Davis, Article 3 Project.
00:16:47.000 Somebody emailed us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:16:49.000 Charlie, what can I do besides vote?
00:16:51.000 Boy, we've been through this, but we'll say it again.
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00:17:08.000 You're going to be disappointed.
00:17:09.000 You need to be involved because it's the right thing to do out of obedience to the divine, the belief that you can have a better tomorrow.
00:17:18.000 That will keep you going through the winter and the hellscape the Democrats have created.
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00:19:28.000 Joining us now is Terry Schilling, great friend of mine.
00:19:31.000 and really great American from the American Principles Project.
00:19:35.000 So this is the third rail enough.
00:19:37.000 We're going to dive right into it.
00:19:37.000 Let's talk about this.
00:19:38.000 And Terry has been the mastermind. 0.96
00:19:41.000 Pornography is a societal toxin. 0.75
00:19:44.000 Young men are addicted to it.
00:19:46.000 Young women are increasingly addicted to it.
00:19:48.000 Pastors are addicted to it.
00:19:49.000 It's destroying marriages.
00:19:50.000 There is no redeemable qualities to the pornography period.
00:19:53.000 There's no spin.
00:19:54.000 There's no, oh, what about is or how about this?
00:19:56.000 Wrong.
00:19:57.000 It shouldn't be really societally accepted anywhere, but it's widespread.
00:20:01.000 So the question is, how do we balance free speech, which I don't think pornography is speech, but that's a separate issue, with also this cancer and this tumor?
00:20:09.000 Well, Terry Schilling has been the brainchild of now we have real results of states that have gotten involved in this fight realizing that their men are, men especially are becoming, let's just say, depraved because of the widespread ubiquitous access to pornography.
00:20:24.000 Terry Schilling wrote an article in 2019, how to regulate pornography.
00:20:29.000 And now four years later, states are adopting this in real legislation, and the results are stunning, everybody.
00:20:35.000 Terry Schilling, tell us about it.
00:20:37.000 Hey, thanks so much for having me, Charlie.
00:20:39.000 And I think I love you just as much as you love us.
00:20:42.000 So I appreciate you having me on.
00:20:44.000 The big thing is, is four years ago, we wanted to build a blueprint for how to regulate porn online.
00:20:50.000 It's gotten way out of control.
00:20:51.000 The average age of first exposure is 11 years old in this country.
00:20:55.000 And it's been 26 years since the Supreme Court struck down laws protecting our kids online.
00:21:00.000 And since then, we've gone from dial-up modems to 100 megabytes per second is the average internet speed.
00:21:07.000 Internet's gotten, I'm sorry, internet pornography has gotten more violent and more disgusting and depraved.
00:21:13.000 It used to be, you know, tasteful nudes like Playboy Magazine, but now it's violent. 0.73
00:21:17.000 It's younger.
00:21:18.000 It's more degrading.
00:21:19.000 And it's just absolutely irredeemable.
00:21:22.000 And what we've found is we've gotten the most traction in passing age verification laws.
00:21:27.000 This is something that we've pulled.
00:21:29.000 It has super majorities across the board. 0.81
00:21:31.000 And it's playing out that way in the state legislatures.
00:21:33.000 My home state of Virginia, it passed the state legislature with only three politicians voting against it, right?
00:21:40.000 This is a super majority issue.
00:21:42.000 Everyone agrees that we need to protect our kids online.
00:21:45.000 We might disagree on how to do it, but age verification is something that's super easy.
00:21:50.000 It's already been done in other adult industries like marijuana, alcohol sales, online gambling, right?
00:21:56.000 If you're a 10-year-old kid and you try to bet on the Cubs win the World Series next year, Charlie, as you and I are both regretful fans of them, you can't do it because you have to upload your photo ID.
00:22:08.000 So why is it that our laws mandate that gambling sites make you upload your photo ID, but not pornography sites?
00:22:15.000 Well, the answer is obvious.
00:22:17.000 It's because pornography is obscene.
00:22:19.000 It meets the definition of obscenity and it's embarrassing and it's shameful.
00:22:22.000 And so while you and I might not care if someone finds out that we bet on the Cubs to win the World Series, as embarrassing as that is, we would care much more about the online pornography that's out there that we could be tied to.
00:22:34.000 So we have to pass these laws.
00:22:35.000 And the reason it's important to recognize pornography as obscenity is because obscenity is not protected by the First Amendment.
00:22:42.000 That's a very important caveat.
00:22:44.000 And so we're making progress.
00:22:46.000 We've gotten this done in seven states now.
00:22:48.000 And we're not going to stop until we get all 50.
00:22:50.000 And we're working right now with the presidential field to make sure that they utilize the Department of Justice once elected to enforce these laws nationally.
00:22:58.000 There's already laws on the books, Charlie, that say you can't give obscene material to minors.
00:23:02.000 We just need a DOJ and a president that will enforce these laws that are currently on the books.
00:23:06.000 Yeah, you need to verify age to drive a car, buy alcohol, bet on sports.
00:23:11.000 And so, what you're finding, though, Terry, is that even the question of age verification has made trafficking go down.
00:23:18.000 Is that correct?
00:23:19.000 Meaning, like not traffic, the web traffic has gone off a cliff, right?
00:23:23.000 Where people are asked to verify and they don't want to do it.
00:23:26.000 So, is it fair to say that this has been successful in limiting porn consumption?
00:23:33.000 Absolutely.
00:23:34.000 And these efforts have limited porn consumption.
00:23:37.000 I think in Utah, you pointed out yesterday on Twitter that porn hubs traffic has dropped by 80%.
00:23:44.000 And the porn industry, the people that are paid to promote this and defend it in public policy and in the media, they're all acknowledging that age verification requires that to drop down, their traffic to drop down.
00:23:55.000 Why is that?
00:23:56.000 It's because we all know that porn is not redeeming.
00:23:58.000 It's not helpful.
00:23:59.000 It's not healthy.
00:24:00.000 It's quite the opposite.
00:24:02.000 And we know it's not a good thing that we want to be tying ourselves to.
00:24:05.000 It's absolutely critical.
00:24:07.000 But here's the real reason I think why porn traffic has dropped so much in these states.
00:24:12.000 It's because most of online porn is driven by minors, right?
00:24:17.000 They have fooled young men like you and I and our generation into thinking that porn is an acceptable and even a healthy alternative to sexual relations.
00:24:25.000 Well, Charlie, with the type and style and crazy types of porn out there now, I would much rather, and I don't want my kids to be sexually active before marriage, but I would much rather them being active and sharing their sexuality with another human being than with a computer screen, which is what porn is.
00:24:41.000 Porn is not an alternative to sex. 0.96
00:24:43.000 It's a replacement for sex. 0.99
00:24:44.000 It's the elimination of sex. 0.96
00:24:46.000 And there are actually porn stars out there right now, like Brandy Love, who lament virtual reality pornography because she thinks that it could lead to people not having sex with each other. 0.94
00:24:56.000 We kicked that degenerate out of our event, by the way. 1.00
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00:25:01.000 So, but I want to reiterate this. 0.93
00:25:03.000 You know, there was somebody recently this came up at a conversation.
00:25:05.000 I said, oh, well, Charlie, you know, we used to look at Playboy magazines.
00:25:09.000 First of all, I don't defend that.
00:25:11.000 It's a completely different thing.
00:25:12.000 Just so you understand that Playboy magazines neurologically are looking at a static image is bad for you.
00:25:20.000 Looking at a video of two people having sex is so unbelievably bad for dopaminergic response.
00:25:27.000 It's terrible for your ability to balance, let's just say, your relationship with women. 1.00
00:25:35.000 I do not think emotions, ability to perform in marriage, it also, but there's a great book.
00:25:40.000 If you doubt any of this, read Gary Wilson's book called Your Brain on Porn.
00:25:46.000 He passed away, unfortunately.
00:25:48.000 Gary, it's a quick read.
00:25:49.000 You can read it in a couple of days.
00:25:51.000 Gary Wilson is not a religious guy, just a scientist who loved the truth.
00:25:56.000 He got into this space because he started reading internet forums of people saying that I suffer from erectile dysfunction and I'm addicted to pornography.
00:26:02.000 He's like, that's interesting.
00:26:03.000 No one's ever thought of looking at this.
00:26:06.000 He wrote an unbelievable book about how pornography increases depression, suicide, anxiety.
00:26:13.000 There is not a single, let me say this again, single redeemable quality to it.
00:26:19.000 And Terry, I think you're zeroing in on it.
00:26:21.000 It's especially damaging for developing brains of young men, ages 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, and parents out there.
00:26:28.000 I just have to be as blunt.
00:26:29.000 If you think your young son is not watching porn, he's almost certainly watching porn. 0.58
00:26:33.000 Terry Schilling. 0.96
00:26:34.000 Right.
00:26:35.000 No, that's exactly right, Charlie.
00:26:37.000 And I think that one of the most devastating impacts, right?
00:26:40.000 So porn changes how you think about sex.
00:26:43.000 It introduces new and inhumane ways of treating yourself and other people.
00:26:49.000 I think that a large reason why we have so many people identifying and children identifying as transgender is because the average age of first exposure to porn is 11.
00:26:57.000 But I think that one of the worst and most practical problems that porn creates is that it creates dissatisfaction with your actual physical partner, right?
00:27:07.000 Your computer screen is going to be available to you much more often than your wife is or your girlfriend is and another human being is.
00:27:14.000 Sexuality is meant to bring us closer together as human beings.
00:27:18.000 It's meant to be directed towards family, towards creating children.
00:27:22.000 And Charlie, you're exactly right about the erectile dysfunction problem in this country.
00:27:26.000 The average, you know, erectile dysfunction before the advent of online porn, that was an old man's disease.
00:27:32.000 I mean, you wouldn't get it until you were in your 60s or 70s or 80s.
00:27:36.000 And now I, you know, Charlie, I've got six kids and hopefully God gives me four or five more.
00:27:41.000 But I get advertisements on social media for erectile dysfunction.
00:27:44.000 I've got no problem there, obviously.
00:27:47.000 But I'm getting these advertisements, which means that young men in their 30s are a prime customer base for erectile dysfunction medication.
00:27:55.000 And it's really alarming and concerning.
00:27:57.000 I want to be clear.
00:27:58.000 Terry and I are not over-moralizing this.
00:28:00.000 We have strong opinions on it, but everyone has their struggles with this stuff throughout, especially young men.
00:28:05.000 We're coming after this from a societal compassionate view, which is if you do not have very basic laws to declare pornography as a pollutant, right?
00:28:14.000 So we don't like factories that pollute the rivers.
00:28:17.000 We don't like factories that pollute our air. 0.91
00:28:19.000 Why would we put up with porn sites that pollute the soul of a generation?
00:28:23.000 You know, we hear about the environment, environment.
00:28:25.000 I'm more worried about kids looking at porn than global temperatures that have gone up by half a degree.
00:28:29.000 It's way a way bigger deal.
00:28:31.000 And by the way, the earth worshipers hate when I say that.
00:28:33.000 I'm not saying it's not important.
00:28:34.000 I'm saying this is a much bigger problem.
00:28:36.000 A whopping quarter of American 40-year-olds have never been married, an all-time high, according to recent Pew Research Center report.
00:28:42.000 The study shows that a majority of young men under 35 would rather watch pornography than go out on a date.
00:28:48.000 It's like a 31%.
00:28:49.000 It's not a huge margin, but porn is more comforting for young single men than going out on a date, Terry Schilling.
00:28:57.000 It's more accessible.
00:28:58.000 Porn is easier to get than building a relationship with a girl.
00:29:03.000 It's easier to attain, right?
00:29:05.000 When you have a relationship with another woman, there's a lot of sacrifice in there, right? 0.79
00:29:09.000 You have to take them on dates.
00:29:11.000 You have to woo them.
00:29:11.000 You have to impress them.
00:29:12.000 You have to build confidence.
00:29:14.000 Porn is a shortcut and it allows you to subvert all of those things and it gets you to be weak.
00:29:20.000 It's like taking steroids, except none of the benefits of building yourself up and getting bigger and stronger, right?
00:29:25.000 It is weakening you and it's making you a worse person.
00:29:28.000 It's making you less social and it's taking away real joys.
00:29:31.000 Charlie, you have kids now and it's such a joy holding your baby for the first time.
00:29:37.000 And the idea that our generation is rejecting that out of their own free will is absolutely insane to me.
00:29:43.000 I want to talk about some of the objections, which I think are being done in good faith.
00:29:47.000 They say, oh, this is Big Brother and all this.
00:29:49.000 And I kind of roll my eyes.
00:29:50.000 I say, okay, even if it was Big Brother, then don't go to the porn website.
00:29:54.000 Haha.
00:29:54.000 It's problem solved.
00:29:57.000 It just has some sort of like constitutional right.
00:29:59.000 It's not like breathing.
00:30:00.000 Like, oh my gosh, I'm not going to be able to feed my family if I can't go to pornhub website.
00:30:04.000 But let's go through it, Terry, because I think some people are making it in good faith.
00:30:07.000 I just kind of roll my eyes.
00:30:08.000 Like, don't visit the website.
00:30:10.000 You don't have to input your data.
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00:30:51.000 Terry, some people say this, this one person emailed, Charlie, enough on the porn topic.
00:30:56.000 I agree with you, but I don't need laws with my kids.
00:30:59.000 I don't need laws for most things.
00:31:00.000 We have bigger problems, no more laws.
00:31:02.000 I totally disagree.
00:31:04.000 Other people say, well, Charlie, this is creating a big brother Leviathan.
00:31:09.000 Why are they wrong?
00:31:11.000 Well, first and foremost, government is founded by men, and I'm quoting our founding fathers, to secure our rights, to secure our rights from whom? 0.87
00:31:19.000 And I would say that it is to secure our rights from industries and companies and bad actors who seek to exploit us, cause us harm, and to unfairly make money off of us.
00:31:29.000 If you're worried about big government, then you should never, ever, not once, visit a porn site.
00:31:35.000 The data is out there.
00:31:37.000 They've written extensively about this.
00:31:38.000 There's a whole podcast series from Bloomberg about how the porn industry collects data on all of us.
00:31:45.000 They know who you are.
00:31:46.000 They know what you watch.
00:31:47.000 They know what scenes you rewind.
00:31:49.000 They know what topics you like on these porn sites.
00:31:52.000 Look, big tech companies know when you're pregnant before you know that you're pregnant, right?
00:31:57.000 The data is out there.
00:31:58.000 They have some sinister modeling that they developed with psychoanalysts in Silicon Valley.
00:32:03.000 They know who you are.
00:32:04.000 They know what you like.
00:32:06.000 They already have all the data on you.
00:32:08.000 And they know where you work.
00:32:09.000 They know where you live.
00:32:10.000 They know when you visit.
00:32:11.000 They know everything, right?
00:32:12.000 The real big brother, if you're concerned about strangers knowing a lot of information about you, then that's even more of a call to rein these industries in, right?
00:32:19.000 Government, we have all types of age verification laws on the books.
00:32:23.000 Let's repeal them all then, I guess, right?
00:32:25.000 Why should you have to verify someone's age when they buy alcohol, whether in person or online?
00:32:30.000 And frankly, Charlie, as a parent, and I have more kids than most, I need all the help I can get to protect my children.
00:32:36.000 I don't think it's fair to put all of the responsibility on parents alone.
00:32:40.000 That's not how we treat any other industry or any other societal problems when it comes to our kids.
00:32:44.000 Yeah, I mean, should we also stop requiring carding for alcohol?
00:32:49.000 Because porn is far more dangerous than alcohol for a 14-year-old.
00:32:53.000 It is.
00:32:53.000 Now, you could die from alcohol poisoning, but in moderation, alcohol is not nearly as damaging as pornography.
00:33:00.000 And the data spells that out.
00:33:02.000 Should we stop age verification to get on an airplane?
00:33:05.000 I mean, like, what?
00:33:07.000 So this is not that complicated.
00:33:09.000 And let's just be honest, the intent is to try to limit porn use.
00:33:13.000 That's why we are doing this.
00:33:15.000 Let's make sure our intentions are straight out there.
00:33:19.000 There is nothing redeemable about porn.
00:33:21.000 It's not speech.
00:33:23.000 It's not virtuous.
00:33:24.000 It's licentiousness.
00:33:25.000 It's profanity.
00:33:26.000 It is digital heroin, digital cocaine.
00:33:29.000 It destroys marriages.
00:33:30.000 It destroys kids.
00:33:32.000 It creates all sorts of bad ramifications, right?
00:33:35.000 It's not like, oh, well, I want to be able to go to the library and read different ideas.
00:33:39.000 That's not what this is, okay?
00:33:41.000 And by the way, this is a new phenomenon, Terry Schilling, because it's not just like the magazines that used to exist.
00:33:47.000 This does something completely different to the brain.
00:33:51.000 Watching video imaging is a completely different phenomenon that we're still figuring out all the negative aspects of, right?
00:34:00.000 And so, and some people are saying, well, Charlie, you know, couldn't this get wildly out of control?
00:34:08.000 I don't see how this could, Terry Schilling, in any way.
00:34:11.000 You're asking for an age verification on a porn website.
00:34:15.000 Final thoughts, Terry Schilling.
00:34:17.000 It's already out of control.
00:34:19.000 And that's what's happening here is we're playing catch up, right?
00:34:22.000 You had an analogy earlier in the show about the EPA and how that was somewhat necessary to rein in these big companies from polluting our waters and our airways.
00:34:32.000 Now, you and I both agree that the EPA did go too far in response to the Industrial Revolution, but now they're regulating carbon, right?
00:34:39.000 We can stop them from regulating these things and going too far.
00:34:43.000 But we had this information revolution with the internet, and we've done nothing to clean it up and keep the pollution out.
00:34:49.000 All we're doing is updating our laws and playing catch up to address real problems, right?
00:34:54.000 Birth rate is below replacement levels, right?
00:34:57.000 Marriage rates are through the floor.
00:34:59.000 Over a quarter of men over, I'm sorry, 40 years around 40 years old aren't married and never have been, right?
00:35:06.000 And I don't know if marriage is even on the horizon for them.
00:35:08.000 Porn is replacing sex. 0.94
00:35:10.000 Sex is needed for uniting a country and for creating the next generation. 1.00
00:35:15.000 It's not just, you know, with alcohol getting out of control, you're putting individual lives at stake.
00:35:21.000 When porn gets out of control, society itself is out of is at stake.
00:35:26.000 You're going to eliminate families, eliminate procreation, and eventually distort sexuality for human beings at such a terrible level. 0.52
00:35:34.000 We have to get this reined in, and we're just playing catch up.
00:35:36.000 The system's already out of control.
00:35:38.000 Terry Schilling, thank you so much.
00:35:41.000 Great work.
00:35:41.000 Just everyone knows porn use is down 80% in the state of Louisiana.
00:35:45.000 That's a societal good.
00:35:46.000 Thank you, Terry Schilling.
00:35:50.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:52.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:56.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.
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