The Charlie Kirk Show - October 11, 2023


Strength Through Peace with Col. Douglas Macgregor and Rep. Matt Gaetz


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Colonel Douglas McGregor joins the show to talk about the Israeli massacre in Gaza and what we should do about it. He also talks about the possibility of war with Iran and why we should not get involved in it.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Today in the Charlie Kirk Show, Colonel Douglas McGregor joins the program and he gives some really smart commentary on how we should think about what's happening in Israel.
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00:01:20.000 Joining us now is someone who I really admire and respect.
00:01:23.000 He is the clearest thinker when it comes to anything foreign policy.
00:01:28.000 He loves America and he's willing to speak courageously and truthful.
00:01:32.000 It's Colonel Douglas McGregor.
00:01:34.000 Colonel, thank you for taking the time.
00:01:36.000 Colonel, how should America respond, if at all, and how should we think about the massacre that occurred over this weekend in Israel?
00:01:42.000 Well, we will obviously support and assist the Israelis with what they're trying to do.
00:01:48.000 They've assembled 470,000 troops, a force larger than the United States Army, to deal with Hamas.
00:01:56.000 But our principal concern at this point is for the Israelis to execute this mission without widening the war.
00:02:04.000 We want to contain this.
00:02:06.000 The worst thing that could happen would be for other regional actors to become involved.
00:02:11.000 Now, the attacks were tragic, and they shouldn't surprise anyone because Gaza is a boiling pot of hatred and anger, all of which is directed at Israel, not necessarily with complete justification. 0.92
00:02:26.000 Doesn't matter.
00:02:27.000 That's what you've got in that place.
00:02:29.000 That's an entirely different issue.
00:02:31.000 And we, you know, anyone who watched what happened yesterday is appalled.
00:02:35.000 But emotion must not control our actions.
00:02:38.000 We need to think carefully.
00:02:39.000 And our biggest concern should be to contain this conflict and avoid anything that would widen it.
00:02:46.000 So, Colonel, are you concerned or should we be concerned that some politicians are going to try and have malevolent intentions and capitalize on emotion to get us into a broader regional conflict, for example, with U.S. troops against Iran?
00:03:05.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:03:06.000 Former Secretary of State Pompeo is on beating the drums for war, arguing for a quote-unquote strike at the heart of the beast, Iran.
00:03:16.000 He's been trying to start a war with Iran for at least a decade or more.
00:03:21.000 That's no surprise.
00:03:23.000 Mike Huckabee, who claims to be a pastor, insists that this is also an attack on the United States, which, of course, is not true.
00:03:32.000 If we decided to launch a war against all of the various forces attacking our society, we would be at war inside our own country in perpetuity.
00:03:43.000 This is all nonsense.
00:03:44.000 No, we are in no position to fight a major war.
00:03:47.000 We don't want to fight a major war.
00:03:50.000 We are on the precipice of doing exactly that in Ukraine if we're not careful. 0.77
00:03:55.000 The last thing is a major war in the Middle East. 0.82
00:03:58.000 Will destroy our economy.
00:04:00.000 It will destroy the global economy.
00:04:03.000 And it will ultimately, in my judgment, result in the destruction of Israel. 0.94
00:04:07.000 We don't have the forces available.
00:04:09.000 Our forces are in ruins.
00:04:11.000 We don't have the capability to directly intervene in anything and shape the outcome.
00:04:17.000 And this is the problem.
00:04:18.000 You begin taking actions and you have no idea what the consequences of your actions will be.
00:04:24.000 The notion that we should attack Iran is absurd.
00:04:27.000 Turkey is equally concerned with what's happening.
00:04:30.000 And frankly speaking, Turkey is a much greater power and it's currently smarting under the experience of having one of their drones shot down by us. 0.97
00:04:39.000 So the Turks are looking into this with dangerous eyes, in my judgment. 1.00
00:04:46.000 We don't want a wider war.
00:04:48.000 We want Israel to complete the task with Hamas, do so as quickly and as expeditiously as possible. 0.99
00:04:56.000 And we don't want this war to widen.
00:04:58.000 So, Colonel, I'm going to ask you a question here.
00:05:01.000 Something doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
00:05:04.000 I've been to Israel many times.
00:05:06.000 It's a fortified country.
00:05:08.000 It is a fortress of a country.
00:05:10.000 I visited Gaza.
00:05:11.000 I remember I went to a, not Gaza, I visited the Gaza Strip right up to the border.
00:05:14.000 And I remember I went to a coffee shop.
00:05:16.000 And just at the coffee shop, there were over 10 to 15 people, IDF soldiers, with guns just around their backs, just very casually.
00:05:24.000 Colonel, am I right in pursuing the question of there's more to the story here?
00:05:30.000 I find this very hard to believe that Israeli intelligence had no idea on the 50-year anniversary of the Om Kippur War.
00:05:38.000 Were they double-crossed?
00:05:39.000 Was this a failure of Mossad?
00:05:41.000 Was this them turning an eye kind of like Golden Mair did 50 years ago, where she decided not to act on intelligence to win support from other nations?
00:05:49.000 What do you think about this?
00:05:51.000 Well, the quick answer is to say that we don't know all of the facts today any more than in October of 1973, everyone knew all of the facts.
00:06:01.000 So we just don't know the answer to all of your questions.
00:06:04.000 What we can say, though, is this.
00:06:07.000 Enemies have a bad habit of doing what you least expect.
00:06:10.000 And we, Israel, Great Britain, many countries historically have become arrogant in their sense of confidence and overwhelming power.
00:06:22.000 It's always a mistake.
00:06:24.000 And I think what we saw happen with Hamas was something that was undoubtedly building over time.
00:06:31.000 I'm absolutely certain that Iranian and Turkish advisors and trainers inside the Gaza Strip or outside of it in northern Egypt no doubt prepared them for what they did.
00:06:44.000 And remember, this is something the Arabs had never been able to do in the past.
00:06:48.000 You know, the Arabs are very loquacious. 1.00
00:06:50.000 They talk about everything.
00:06:52.000 They never shut up to be blunt.
00:06:54.000 And so very easy.
00:06:56.000 It was very easy for the Israelis to track them, to monitor them, and to know what they were going to do. 0.65
00:07:02.000 Well, that didn't happen this time.
00:07:04.000 And the Israelis were genuinely surprised.
00:07:07.000 They were surprised by new tactics, new approach, the cohesion, the leadership, the weaponry, everything.
00:07:14.000 Everything came as a surprise.
00:07:17.000 You know, people think this is unusual.
00:07:19.000 It's not unusual historically.
00:07:21.000 We went through something similar during the Battle of the Bulge.
00:07:24.000 And if you go back to Custer and his cavalry force, his biggest concern when he attacked the Sioux was that they would run away because that's what they'd always done. 0.97
00:07:34.000 Instead, he ended up fighting not only the Sioux, but all these tribes that had never united, and he was annihilated.
00:07:40.000 So these kinds of things happen.
00:07:42.000 The Israelis will recover.
00:07:44.000 I would argue they've already begun to do so.
00:07:46.000 And I think they can be successful.
00:07:48.000 But there are other variables here, Charlie.
00:07:51.000 The Egyptians want to send in a humanitarian convoy to relieve suffering in Gaza.
00:07:57.000 Gaza is about 140 square miles.
00:08:00.000 The Israelis don't want that to happen.
00:08:02.000 They want to squeeze the population in Gaza, but this may not be possible.
00:08:07.000 The last thing that Israel wants to do is end up in a fighting war or shooting war with the Egyptians, who have already said they plan to stay neutral, but they do want to provide some medical assistance and support and so forth to the population.
00:08:23.000 And then you have Mr. Erdogan in Turkey, who is meeting with the Secretary General of the United Nations and is also going to meet with President Putin.
00:08:31.000 And he's already talked about on humanitarian grounds the impossibility of cutting off electricity and water to Gaza.
00:08:40.000 So the Israelis are in a difficult position.
00:08:42.000 I'm sympathetic to them, as I'm sure everyone is.
00:08:45.000 We want to see them succeed, but they've got to proceed carefully.
00:08:48.000 In the meantime, we should have diplomats in the region working to ensure that this conflict does not spread.
00:08:58.000 We need to identify everyone's interest and see what we can do to meet it.
00:09:01.000 Instead of treating everyone as a potential enemy, we need to start looking at people as potential partners and containing this conflict.
00:09:09.000 If we don't do that, if we do what Pompeo and Huckabee and others are saying, then we risk more than just a regional war.
00:09:18.000 If there is an attack on Iran, if Turkey becomes involved, this will not stop. 0.53
00:09:24.000 It will spread rapidly.
00:09:25.000 We should expect the Russians and obviously, though distant, the Chinese to back whatever the Russians, the Iranians, and the Turks do. 0.94
00:09:33.000 This is a war we don't want to fight.
00:09:35.000 So we need to find a way to prevent it.
00:09:37.000 Yeah, I mean, and Turkey's part of NATO.
00:09:40.000 You're saying, I mean, this is this whole NATO project is just such a disgrace to our intelligence and anyone with reason.
00:09:46.000 So a NATO quote-unquote ally, according to you, is helping Hamas.
00:09:52.000 But I agree 100%, Colonel, that if we are not careful, this will turn into a regional war, which, again, I'm not trying to get people into panic, but we could get into a world war over this, okay?
00:10:02.000 This thing could get completely and totally out of control because of a massacre that occurred in Israel.
00:10:08.000 And my other fear is that Netanyahu, who is temporarily humiliated, very well might overreact and try to broaden this and extend this beyond what just happened with Hamas.
00:10:22.000 That is a fear of mine because now we have Hezbollah and Lebanon. 1.00
00:10:26.000 And he says we're going to send a message that will strike for generations to come.
00:10:30.000 That's a little bit unclear what he means, but knowing kind of the history of, let's just say, Mossad's pursuit of revenge, I hope this thing doesn't turn into an entire Arab versus Israel conflict.
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00:12:34.000 Colonel, can you just explain a little bit more?
00:12:36.000 I'm not an expert on this by any means.
00:12:38.000 You're saying that Turkey, a NATO member, was probably involved in an attack on Israel.
00:12:43.000 How is that possible?
00:12:45.000 That's perplexing to me.
00:12:46.000 Well, it's not involved in a direct attack on Israel any more than we are involved in a direct attack against Russia.
00:12:54.000 Remember, these are proxy operations.
00:12:56.000 But the Turks had a key role in standing up ISIS.
00:13:00.000 Turkish intelligence officers provided all sorts of communication equipment, advance intelligence, and ultimately the Turks operate as a go-between to sell oil to finance ISIS.
00:13:14.000 They are interested in an agenda in the region that is completely unconnected to anything we want, or for that matter, Israel wants.
00:13:23.000 Now, Israel knows that the Turks are unfriendly. 0.91
00:13:26.000 Mr. Erdogan is hostile to the Turks, excuse me, to Israel and the Israeli state.
00:13:33.000 So they have provided support and assistance and advice.
00:13:38.000 And now, beyond that, have they provided weapons?
00:13:40.000 Now, I think most of the weapons that we're seeing used have come from other sources, certainly from Iran.
00:13:45.000 And there are unconfirmed reports that some of these weapons have actually found their way through the Kosovo Arms Bazaar from Ukraine into Gaza.
00:13:55.000 I mean, anything is possible in the world today.
00:13:58.000 Colonel, I want to make sure we have adequate time.
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00:14:13.000 It was founded by a group of people who said, Look, I'm tired of these distinctions between Democrats and Republicans.
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00:14:25.000 Policies never change.
00:14:27.000 And all we have to do to confirm that is to go back over the last 30 years.
00:14:30.000 As always, we need a new approach.
00:14:33.000 We need to unite around some key issues.
00:14:35.000 Key issue is to end these overseas commitments to warfare.
00:14:40.000 It's got to stop.
00:14:41.000 We can't afford it.
00:14:42.000 It's destroying us financially. 0.68
00:14:44.000 $14 trillion were lost just over the last 20 years on these ridiculous interventions.
00:14:50.000 Secondly, we've got to close down the borders.
00:14:54.000 We've got to get control, not just of the southern border, but all of our borders, our coastal waters.
00:14:59.000 We need to restore the rule of law and expel the people who are in our country illegally. 1.00
00:15:04.000 We need to get control of who is actually in the country. 0.98
00:15:08.000 We don't even know.
00:15:10.000 And we're worried about what's happening today in the Middle East.
00:15:14.000 We could wake up tomorrow morning with a nuclear accident, an attack on our electrical grid, any numbers of different things executed by people inside the country who were admitted freely without any attempt to vent them. 0.67
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00:15:31.000 Is it fear-mongering to say that there could potentially be sleeper cells in this country that could execute terror and harm on the homeland?
00:15:40.000 No, it's very real.
00:15:41.000 It's very real.
00:15:42.000 Just as the potential for this conflict in Israel to widen unless we exert some influence in the region to contain it, it's just as bad.
00:15:54.000 We need to stop focusing on what's happening overseas in the sense that we need to start asking ourselves a key question.
00:16:03.000 What do we gain and what do we lose?
00:16:05.000 When you commit yourself to military action, you need to think about that.
00:16:09.000 We never ask that question.
00:16:10.000 And we need to measure whatever we think we're going to achieve by how much we will lose.
00:16:14.000 And the same thing is true with the border.
00:16:16.000 All of these people that want open borders and think that that's humanitarian need to step back and look at the societal cohesion that's being destroyed to look at the rise in criminality.
00:16:27.000 I don't know how many crimes or misdemeanors are being committed by various illegals.
00:16:33.000 I have no idea, but I know that the illegal population contains the very elements you're talking about. 1.00
00:16:39.000 Some of these are people that work for Hezbollah, Hamas.
00:16:43.000 A lot of people are in this country from other countries simply as foreign agents.
00:16:47.000 They will respond to direction that they get overseas.
00:16:51.000 Colonel Douglas McGregor, thank you for being so generous with your time.
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00:17:00.000 Really appreciate it.
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00:18:05.000 When I say he's the most hated man in D.C., I mean that as a compliment.
00:18:09.000 I mean that as a statement of admiration.
00:18:14.000 It's Matt Gates.
00:18:15.000 Matt, welcome to the program.
00:18:18.000 Makes me really appreciate it.
00:18:19.000 Long time no see, Matt.
00:18:22.000 So, Matt, it's been a week.
00:18:25.000 Give us the update.
00:18:26.000 And do you have, I mean, this is a simple question.
00:18:29.000 Do you have any regrets for what you did now that we're a week into this and there is no speaker?
00:18:34.000 Matt Gates, the floor is yours.
00:18:36.000 My only regret is that the Pro Tem made the decision that was fully vested in him to call for a week of cooling off.
00:18:45.000 I don't think we should be cooling off.
00:18:46.000 I think we should be heating up, heating up the agenda, the appropriations process, and specifically turning up the heat on the United States Senate to take up the bills that we have already passed to fund our veterans, to fund our national defense, to fund our Department of Homeland Security and the border.
00:19:04.000 Right now, we could be negotiating those things.
00:19:07.000 The Senate has not passed any of those bills.
00:19:09.000 As far as the speaker's race goes, I'm quite pleased with the candidates that we have.
00:19:13.000 Where this would be more challenging scenario is if we had seven, eight, nine, 10, 11 candidates, each with a small batch of people.
00:19:22.000 And one could see that reasonably taking some weeks to resolve.
00:19:25.000 But, Charlie, we have two candidates, Steve Scalise and Jim Jordan.
00:19:28.000 One of those two people is going to get more support than the other.
00:19:31.000 And that will likely be the person that our conference rallies around.
00:19:35.000 I think highly of both men.
00:19:36.000 I've worked with both of them very closely on committees and on regional priorities.
00:19:41.000 I think that either will represent an upgrade at the position.
00:19:44.000 And when I leave this discussion, we're going to some small group meetings where both Mr. Scalise and Mr. Jordan will lay out their vision on spending.
00:19:52.000 That's something very important to me because if we get the rest of this right, but we don't resolve the fact that we're facing a $2.2 trillion annual deficit, then I fear that we'll lose this great country.
00:20:03.000 Everybody, email us your thoughts and your questions you want me to ask, Congressman Gates.
00:20:08.000 So we're on Team Jim Jordan all the way.
00:20:10.000 Matt, who are you supporting in the speaker's race?
00:20:13.000 Well, I'm an undecided voter right now.
00:20:15.000 Again, I've said it's an embarrassment of riches that we've got someone like a Jim Jordan, who is our most talented, our hardest working member, someone who I personally nominated in January.
00:20:29.000 And Steve Scalise is a guy who's demonstrated a tremendous amount of grit.
00:20:33.000 He's widely respected among every facet of the conference.
00:20:37.000 And I think either of these men would be able to bring us together.
00:20:41.000 Ultimately, that has to be toward a specific vision, though.
00:20:44.000 I think too often in Washington, it's about personality or fundraising or who's done what favor for whom.
00:20:51.000 And so, you know, while I have great personal affection for both of these folks, my final decision is going to be driven by their vision on budgeting and then really reining in this government.
00:21:03.000 Because you are rightly critical of Republicans who just put on a big performance in committee, but then at the end of the day, still send the check to operationalize a government that, in many instances, has been turned against the people.
00:21:16.000 So I think we have to use that power of the purse effectively.
00:21:20.000 And if we do so, we can leverage one half of one-third of government.
00:21:25.000 Kevin McCarthy never really understood leverage.
00:21:27.000 I think we've got to see how the plan will work under the upgrades in Scalise or Jordan.
00:21:33.000 If I were to guess, I think you're going to be more in the Jordan camp than the Scalise camp, but I don't want to speak for you.
00:21:39.000 Matt, let's talk timeline.
00:21:40.000 We're a week into this.
00:21:42.000 When are we going to start to see some votes?
00:21:43.000 Not just, you know, heated sessions and the closed doors and fist fights that are going to break out.
00:21:51.000 Come on, we got to get a speaker here.
00:21:52.000 We got to raise the $300 million.
00:21:54.000 And is there any read us into this kind of resurgence where McCarthy's going to make another go at the whole ball game here?
00:22:03.000 Timeline and McCarthy.
00:22:04.000 Matt Gates, respond.
00:22:06.000 Sure.
00:22:06.000 I suspect that we'll have our first votes on Wednesday morning, tomorrow morning.
00:22:14.000 And if someone has 50% plus one, I think that the conference will very quickly rally around that person, or if it's close to that.
00:22:22.000 So we'll have a secret ballot.
00:22:24.000 We'll determine who won that secret ballot.
00:22:26.000 And I wish it were more action on the floor, like the country got to see during the last speaker contest, where different people could make nominating speeches and you would see publicly how people were voting.
00:22:38.000 I think a majority of our conference is instead going to want to resolve this behind closed doors so as to not have that public display.
00:22:46.000 I actually don't think that made us weaker.
00:22:48.000 I think that made us stronger because the country tuned into what we were fighting for and who we were fighting for and how we thought we could get from point A to point B.
00:22:56.000 But I'm not in the majority of the majority on that question.
00:23:00.000 So it could be as early as Wednesday.
00:23:02.000 I don't think that it'll last into next week.
00:23:05.000 And if there are, you know, four, five, 10 or 12 people that will only vote for Kevin McCarthy, even though he's not a candidate and has no path to regain the position, that would be a real sign of stubbornness, not a collective effort to unify and go forward with a plan.
00:23:21.000 So, Matt, something that I think is getting misrepresented here.
00:23:25.000 Some people say, you know, we want to get an Israel aid package passed quickly.
00:23:29.000 And because of that, we need a speaker.
00:23:31.000 So two different things there.
00:23:32.000 But, Matt, whether it be border security or if our country got attacked, the House can still pass legislation without a speaker.
00:23:39.000 You could do a single resolution.
00:23:41.000 You could introduce your upper-down vote.
00:23:44.000 The speaker pro tem can introduce legislation.
00:23:46.000 So what I'm trying to get at, Matt, is that we shouldn't be overly pressured into conceding our principles because of basically a narrative of misinformation.
00:23:54.000 Is that correct, Matt Gates?
00:23:56.000 I think that's largely right, Charlie.
00:23:58.000 And while we're horrified at what's going on right now in Israel, and we understand that Israel has a right to defend itself and is indeed doing so, the observations of Marco Rubio are pretty dispositive here.
00:24:13.000 He laid out how under our current laws, there is all of the authority the President of the United States needs to be able to provide any additional supplemental aid to Israel.
00:24:24.000 And keep in mind, Israel is on a $3.8 billion auto pay as the consequence of good legislation that Marco Rubio passed.
00:24:33.000 And so I think that we're fine in terms of meeting the needs at Israel.
00:24:37.000 Of course, we want the border to be more reflective of what the American people want, but we can achieve that objective by demanding the Senate take up and pass our legislation to fund the border with policy demands that people not be just released indiscriminately into the country.
00:24:52.000 They have to be detained or removed if they are not here lawfully.
00:24:57.000 And so that is a really important asylum change that we're fighting for there.
00:25:01.000 But we should not buy into the misinformation that Congress can do nothing.
00:25:06.000 I mean, you know, just today I was getting briefings on what's going on in the Middle East.
00:25:10.000 Tomorrow morning, we've got a classified briefing set for all the members.
00:25:14.000 So work is still being done here.
00:25:16.000 I do think we need to get a speaker quickly, but it is not worth sacrificing our principles.
00:25:20.000 So there's this whisper campaign that's going on here, Matt, that this, I'm going to read this article here from Politico.com.
00:25:28.000 McCarthy loyalists vow to draw out painful speakership battle.
00:25:32.000 So they actually might want to turn this into a spectacle.
00:25:36.000 As far as the news with Israel, do you think that changes the calculation in that regard?
00:25:43.000 And how will you respond tactically to moderates that now want to exact revenge by basically drawing this out into a long, long process?
00:25:54.000 Well, if moderates want to help Israel, as I believe they do and as I want to do, that would be very self-defeating to say that just for the sake of eulogizing whatever's left of Kevin McCarthy, that we want to continue to vote for him in the absence of any belief that he could govern the House of Representatives.
00:26:13.000 What I would say is that Kevin McCarthy has had nine months to lead the House of Representatives, and we didn't really deliver on anything substantive for the American people.
00:26:23.000 All we did was advance Joe Biden's spending and Nancy Pelosi's policy priorities while underwriting the debt for all of it.
00:26:31.000 We've not even sent a subpoena to Hunter Biden.
00:26:34.000 So we've had a pretty large sample size of the Kevin McCarthy experience.
00:26:38.000 And if there's a small group of moderates who want to just deny the House of Representatives a speaker with no end game, I think their constituents will put pressure on them.
00:26:48.000 I've had every talking head on Fox News and even other conservative media outlets critical of me.
00:26:54.000 And yet the recent CBS poll that came out showed that 60% of Americans and 54% of identified conservatives support the ouster of Kevin McCarthy.
00:27:04.000 Matter of fact, my resolution vacating Kevin McCarthy may be the most popular thing that the House of Representatives has passed that's actually gotten enacted.
00:27:14.000 I mean, it's certainly more popular than the debt limit deal and the continuing resolutions.
00:27:18.000 So I think that we've got an opportunity to come together.
00:27:22.000 We should seize that opportunity and we should really count our blessings that we've got people like Jim Jordan and Steve Scalise willing to step up and take on this challenge.
00:27:31.000 Everybody, you can email us your questions here, freedom at charliekirk.com for Matt Gates.
00:27:36.000 Here's one question we received from one of our listeners, Matt.
00:27:39.000 They say, Matt, I'm with you 100%.
00:27:40.000 How are you handling all of the vicious attacks?
00:27:43.000 Can you read us into how they are retaliating?
00:27:46.000 Matt, can you add some context to that?
00:27:49.000 Because, you know, you don't aim for the king, take out the king, catch the car, and then go back to your district and expect parades and beautiful commercials, you know, with you and your wife.
00:28:01.000 Has the regime come after you?
00:28:02.000 What can you share?
00:28:04.000 Yeah, there are some outside dark money groups that are attacking me in my district, and there are threats of retaliation, expulsion, weaponizing the ethics process to try to force me out of the United States Congress.
00:28:18.000 What I can assure the American people is that every day I am here, I will fight for you.
00:28:22.000 And if demanding that we follow the law or pass a budget draws me ire or negative attacks, I am built for the battle.
00:28:30.000 I have faced down tougher things than a few nasty Grahams from Grover Norquist.
00:28:36.000 So I'm very proud of the work we've done, but I don't believe the job is over.
00:28:42.000 We are still in this fight to ensure that the American people are represented first and foremost in the thoughts and minds of our leadership as we go to battle the Biden administration and the Chuck Schumer-controlled Senate.
00:28:54.000 So, yeah, you know, there have been a few terse words and even terser actions, but it's not something that I let get me down.
00:29:03.000 I'm a pretty happy warrior.
00:29:05.000 So, Matt, in closing here, we know that if this is successful, we need to keep the house.
00:29:10.000 And so, talk about what that plan will be.
00:29:14.000 And we also have this continuing resolution that is just coming up.
00:29:17.000 You mentioned this on the horizon.
00:29:20.000 If you guys leave DC again, I'm going to throw my computer at the wall.
00:29:25.000 I mean, you guys get more vacation, not you.
00:29:27.000 I mean, it's the speaker that decides this.
00:29:29.000 What's the 30-day marching plan?
00:29:32.000 How can the grassroots help you, Matt Gates?
00:29:34.000 We need to demand that the United States Senate pass single-subject spending bills.
00:29:39.000 We've passed enough single-subject spending bills to fund 70% of the government.
00:29:43.000 We've got the remaining to get to, and there's some tough cuts that we had some Midwestern farmers that weren't real thrilled about.
00:29:49.000 So we've got to work with them.
00:29:50.000 They're our team members and our colleagues.
00:29:52.000 And we've got to get the spending cuts to save the dollar.
00:29:55.000 We've got to get the schedule on track, which I believe we can meet.
00:29:58.000 I mean, when we had the political gun to McCarthy's head, we got four single-subject spending bills on the floor in a week.
00:30:04.000 So we need productivity like that.
00:30:06.000 I'm with you.
00:30:08.000 We need to get rid of the French work week and embrace the vigor that the challenge before us demands. 1.00
00:30:14.000 Spending cuts to save the dollar.
00:30:16.000 I like that a lot.
00:30:17.000 Matt, you did something that no one in American history has ever done.
00:30:22.000 The regime is going to come barking at you and try to take you out.
00:30:25.000 I could tell you the American grassroots are behind you.
00:30:30.000 I pray that your plan gives us a speaker, Jim Jordan, and we will wait expectantly.
00:30:36.000 Matt, thanks for your time.
00:30:37.000 Appreciate it.
00:30:38.000 Thank you so much, Charlie.
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00:31:44.000 I have drawn the ire of Adam Kinzinger.
00:31:47.000 That is how you know you're on to something.
00:31:51.000 Adam Kinzinger, he tweets at me.
00:31:55.000 He's like a former member of Congress.
00:31:57.000 This guy spends so much time on Twitter.
00:31:58.000 It's very people that spend that much time on Twitter have suspicious personal lives.
00:32:05.000 So I want to mention something.
00:32:07.000 I was texting a friend of mine who is an IDF soldier.
00:32:12.000 And I've spent time in Israel.
00:32:13.000 I was treated really well by the people there.
00:32:15.000 And again, I'm not an apologist for the Israeli government.
00:32:17.000 There's plenty of stuff that they do as I just kind of say, that's weird.
00:32:20.000 But, you know, a common talking point is, you know, whenever America goes to war, you know, like Adam Kinzinger wants us to get another way.
00:32:29.000 He's tweeting at me.
00:32:30.000 So why don't you go fight the fight, right?
00:32:32.000 You know what I find to be really just, I got to be perfectly honest, inspiring and admirable, emerald, admirable.
00:32:42.000 How many Jews are flying back to Israel to go defend their country?
00:32:45.000 I think that's really beautiful.
00:32:48.000 I really do.
00:32:50.000 I got to be perfectly honest with you.
00:32:54.000 When people love their country, I think that's a really great thing.
00:32:57.000 If I was traveling abroad in Japan or London and America got under attack, I would be on the first flight back to America.
00:33:06.000 I would.
00:33:07.000 I'm hearing these reports and it sends chills.
00:33:09.000 I got to be honest.
00:33:09.000 I don't care what your country is.
00:33:11.000 It's a good thing to love your country.
00:33:13.000 You have packed flights of Jews from Miami and New York that want to go into the war zone. 1.00
00:33:21.000 They're not asking other people to fight their fight for them.
00:33:25.000 And when they say never again, they mean it.
00:33:27.000 Israel is supposed to be a statement that it's never again.
00:33:32.000 The most deadly day that we have seen for Jews since the Holocaust. 0.78
00:33:39.000 Jeremiah 29, 7.
00:33:41.000 Demand or seek, Badrash, the welfare of the nation that you are in, because your welfare or shalom or shalem is tied to your nation's welfare. 0.99
00:33:54.000 And so I was texting with this guy and he says, you know, I have a pregnant wife.
00:33:58.000 She's very pregnant. 0.96
00:33:59.000 We're flying back to Israel.
00:34:01.000 And I got to say, man, are you sure that's smart?
00:34:03.000 He said, I don't think people that don't, he said, with all due respect, Charlie, I don't think you understand how much we believe in Israel.
00:34:10.000 He said, this is not a joke.
00:34:13.000 He said, this is multi-thousands of years of history.
00:34:17.000 And, you know, when you study the Old Testament, which I believe is the word of God, you see it.
00:34:24.000 I mean, the Jews were in exile nearly permanently.
00:34:28.000 Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Joseph, into slavery of Moses. 0.91
00:34:34.000 God delivers Moses to his chosen people.
00:34:37.000 Joshua ends up bringing the Jews. 0.94
00:34:40.000 Once the older generation died, they complained a lot.
00:34:44.000 And for Jews, they look at this as a survival of their people.
00:34:48.000 They really do.
00:34:50.000 When I see entire planes packed with Jews that want to go back to fight for their homeland, when I see Israelis leaving their cars on the side of the road to go to recruitment centers, that's powerful stuff. 0.99
00:35:05.000 That's honestly, that's nationalism at its best.
00:35:09.000 We talk, you know, the bad guys, they always say nationalism is a toxin.
00:35:12.000 No, this is pretty beautiful.
00:35:14.000 I got to be honest.
00:35:16.000 About sacrifice, duty, gratitude to what people prior did for you.
00:35:23.000 This is why Israel is largely a threat, Israel with its current roots, a threat to the Great Reset. 0.99
00:35:29.000 And they believe in their country.
00:35:30.000 They want to defend it.
00:35:32.000 How many Americans would leave their cars at the side of the road if we were attacked?
00:35:36.000 It's worth thinking about.
00:35:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:42.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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