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00:00:01.000That is the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, who just officially accepted the vice presidential nomination for the Democrat Party, filled with lies, stolen valor, radical politics, all masquerading as the theme for tonight, which is Hicklib.
00:00:20.000Jack Posobiec has been talking about this for quite some time, so has Blake, which is, if you are trying to appropriate conservatism, heartland values, the main thrust of this country with left-wing politics, what would you do?
00:00:37.000And we are going to dive deep into that from, oh look, I own a gun, I have a camo hat, I'm one of Trans Year Kids, keep the borders open, give benefits to illegals and foreigners, I want post-birth abortions, but I have a camo hat.
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00:02:25.000The Hicklib is a phenomenon that's been pushed in Hollywood and pushed throughout mainstream media and society, where the idea is you take someone who has the The aesthetics of what people might think a conservative would be, wearing flannel or wearing a cowboy hat, riding around in a pickup truck, listening to country music, and yet then espousing all of these liberal beliefs and ideals.
00:02:56.000Now, of course, this was shown most famously on the Yellowstone TV show,
00:03:01.000where at one point in a later season, the main character, Dutton, gets this basically
00:03:08.000like Antifa environmentalist girlfriend who's teaching him the error of his ways in the world.
00:03:15.000And you could see this used again and again throughout media.
00:03:18.000You can see all these guys all over YouTube.
00:03:21.000There are times where Google has been caught actually propping up gun YouTubers that are hicklibs.
00:03:26.000You could see it all throughout the country music world, by the way.
00:03:29.000This guy, Oliver Anthony, comes out with this great song that everyone thinks is awesome when it first comes out,
00:03:42.000And so it's been a huge psyop that millions of dollars have been poured into over the last three or four years.
00:03:51.000And Tim Walz is, of course, now the final form of the political weaponization of the Hiklib Psyop.
00:03:59.000That's also why you're seeing Ella Emhoff wearing the camo.
00:04:03.000And I think Rolling Stone even had a story, I'll have to pull it up from earlier today, where they were talking about how Ella Emhoff wearing camo and Tim Walz shows that Democrats have now found a way to reach out to Southerners and Midwesterners and they're going to bring it all back.
00:04:22.000You know, Charlie, here's the ultimate thing, though.
00:04:24.000What it really shows is Democrats are terrified of losing the white working class.
00:04:57.000Blake, tell us, again, let's kind of go further on Hicklib.
00:05:01.000This was a Hicklib parade, if you will, the entire night of, and we talk about this in the book, Rightwing Revolution, and Blake, you helped with the book at this part, in this part of the book, where, oh, I own a camel hat?
00:05:18.000That really was on display tonight where they said, hey, if we can maybe do 10,000 votes better in the rules in Pennsylvania and 100,000 votes better in Wisconsin, we can win because We own camo too, Blake.
00:06:06.000We're the moderate, almost really a center-right party even.
00:06:09.000Don't think at all about all those other things that we're doing.
00:06:13.000It's classic, you know, boiling the frog is another metaphor that comes to mind.
00:06:19.000Can we trick people into just voting for things that are wildly against their values and interests?
00:06:24.000Voting for people whose idea is to confiscate their guns, flood their country with, you know, basically replace them with foreign migrants who are going to be more pliable votes, treat them as this, like, Kulak class that should be dispossessed because they have privilege, and literally, like, take their kids away and mutilate them because of a weird Cult, Gnostic, whatever belief in what gender is.
00:06:49.000And we can trick them all into that because we have a guy who has shot a pheasant, shot a deer before.
00:07:34.000And it's not the whole idea, but no, the Democrat Party is not about Excellence is not about achieving at the highest heights.
00:07:39.000It's about staying mediocre and trying to bash down success and break down success.
00:07:45.000We don't have the tape here, but Blake, of all the ways to attack Tim Walz, I mean, attack J.D.
00:07:49.000Vance, I can't imagine, hey, you grew up in poverty and went to one of America's most prestigious schools as the most effective one.
00:07:56.000I mean, it might work just because it is so popular to hate on, like, to hate on success, essentially, unless you do it from the right perspective.
00:08:05.000Pritzker and you're going to come in to cheer on the revolution, then it's okay to flex and be like, I'm a billionaire haha you suck Trump then it's okay to do it but yeah other than that yeah they'll just come out and say oh yeah we're not a privileged urban elite like JD Vance who went to Yale like it's not gonna be popular to say but
00:08:25.000Walls is like, just, it's depressing that this incredibly mediocre figure is going to be running to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
00:08:35.000This is what I hear from all sorts of people.
00:08:37.000People in the military who even setting aside the fact that he's a coward who abandoned his unit
00:08:42.000They'll point out all the circumstantial evidence He doesn't really like they give away a lot of decorations
00:08:46.000in the military these days There's decoration inflation just like there's great
00:08:50.000inflation and these guys point out Walls basically never got
00:08:53.000He got like the lowest possible decorations you can get he basically got the military equivalent of like a middle
00:09:01.000finger when he was leaving This is a guy. He's like never worked in the private sector
00:09:05.000except in a factory when he was 19 years old He's just stacked pensions as a teacher, as a member of the guard, as a congressman.
00:09:13.000Hasn't like built up any wealth despite an enormous ability to do that.
00:09:17.000He is a truly, profoundly mediocre figure.
00:09:20.000And then he comes out here and is like, yeah, J.D.
00:09:23.000Vance stinks because he worked hard and came out of poverty to go to a school that actively discriminated against him based on his skin color.
00:09:32.000Due to policies that I, as a Democrat, support.
00:10:47.000Andrew, your thoughts on tonight of the appropriating of conservatism aesthetic with, basically, it was conservatism and drag tonight.
00:10:57.000Well, yeah, I mean, it strikes me, Charlie, that this whole DNC is basically like, let's take the truth, flip it, Attack Donald Trump or J.D.
00:11:07.000Vance and then call it a day and let's just see where the cards fall, right?
00:11:12.000It is a complete inversion of the truth in almost every single possible way.
00:11:17.000And, you know, I thought that really was the high watermark with Michelle Obama last night when she said, you know, we don't have the luxury of failing forward.
00:11:25.000And it's like you are literally putting a woman who has failed forward her entire life and barely squeaked by and got on because she checked a bunch of boxes.
00:11:35.000That is the epitome of failing forward.
00:11:38.000And then you've got Tim Walz who just gets picked because they needed a white guy that wouldn't be too ambitious and not Jewish on the ticket.
00:11:45.000Hate to call a spade a spade, but that, I mean, that is, yesterday was a real high watermark for that.
00:11:51.000And then Tim Walz to come in here appropriating sort of this like flannel wearing Midwestern values, gun-toting thing, when he stands diametrically opposed to all those values.
00:12:00.000And anybody who understands those values or embodies them truly, understands just what a fraud Tim Walz is,
00:14:33.000So I was there last night in Chicago, and you could hear that Obama had this line about the neighbor with the leaf blower, and Michelle had this line about the neighbor with the leaf blower, and she's coming to help you.
00:15:21.000That when he was in Congress for all of these years, you just don't even hear anything about it.
00:15:26.000It's, I was a public school teacher, and then I coached football.
00:15:30.000He was a defensive coordinator, by the way, didn't actually use IVF,
00:15:35.000and yet he talks about fertility treatments, even though IUI, the treatment that he did use
00:15:39.000is artificial insemination, is completely different from IVF,
00:15:43.000and as the resident Catholic, I'll sit here and say that is definitely not the same thing.
00:15:49.000And so it's just again and again, you punch all these holes,
00:15:52.000but I will say this, I actually thought that Tim Walz's speech,
00:15:56.000for what it was, was better than Kamala can do it.
00:16:01.000She's not going to be able to give a speech that that's coherent, that coherent, or that believable, at least I think he came across as someone who at least understands his talking points.
00:16:53.000We know that from his time going into China, he's very, very committed to deep ideological forms of politics that, what can I say, are shared by Chairman Mao.
00:17:04.000So I think that if JD Vance really starts questioning, he's going to get under his skin, really starts messing with him, he is going to snap and he's going to have a huge, huge meltdown in front of the American people.
00:17:16.000So Blake, you were messaging in the chat, and I want you to expound on this, is that people attack Trump, oh Trump talks about himself too much, Trump talks about himself too much, he's constantly, and you think back to the RNC speech, you think back, it was a long speech by Trump.
00:17:28.000You think about it though, he was spending all that time talking about things he did, about his accomplishments.
00:17:48.000They have had political power for 12 out of the last 16 years, and they're talking about, well, we're neighbors in Minnesota to each other.
00:17:56.000Blake, Tell us what we're missing. Yeah, so this is an
00:18:01.000administration that, so yeah, 12 of the last 16 years, including is the
00:18:05.000incumbent administration, you are implicitly making the case that we should continue the
00:18:11.000regime that is going now. And it's just, they don't really brag about things they've done the last
00:18:17.000four years. I mean, there's endless abortion stuff, but that's mostly just, you know, stop the
00:18:23.000hypothetical super total ban that Trump is going to pass, allegedly, although he's not, he says he's
00:18:43.000I went and I looked up Donald Trump's speech, his RNC speech in 2020.
00:18:47.000And if you read the details of what he talks about in that speech, as you say, he brags a lot, he runs his Donald Trump shtick, but Trump is actually the most substantive politician we have.
00:18:59.000I'm looking through this, he talks about, he brags, I got our NATO allies to pay $130 billion more per year, and we're going to take that to $400 billion a year.
00:19:09.000They're going to pay more for defense.
00:19:11.000We're not going to pay as much for it.
00:19:47.000I replaced NAFTA with the new US-Mexico-Canada Trade Agreement.
00:19:53.000He, uh, let's see, he's just going through here, like, he talks about his Supreme Court judges, the number that he passed, he talks about right to try, he talks about, it's one thing after another.
00:20:04.000Trump is very much, he has this very direct understanding of politics as, I'm going to run on promising to do stuff and I'm going to deliver by doing that stuff and then brag about it to you.
00:20:17.000And it's really jarring to jump from that to what we have with the DNC here where it is, It's truly a staggeringly vacuous thing where I guess we're supposed to vote for Walls because he's a nice guy and a dad and a coach and they'll sometimes say he was like a good governor of Minnesota but you don't want to talk too much about the specifics because then you have to talk about letting Minneapolis get looted while he refuses to call out the guard.
00:20:43.000You'd have to talk about... they'll talk about schools but they don't want to talk about Minnesota test scores.
00:20:48.000They don't want to talk about murder rates.
00:20:49.000They don't want to talk about feeding America's future, where they looted $250 million from the state while Walls was being folksy and not looking.
00:21:17.000Jack has a source that I want to throw to in a sec, that it says that they're freaking out at the DNC about numbers they're seeing.
00:21:23.000Again, Jack's sources really tend to be correct on this stuff.
00:21:26.000But at least on the ground, I feel the laws of nature starting to kick in.
00:21:30.000I feel that all of a sudden there's a gravitational reality that is coming into the Kamala campaign because this was not the convention they had the last two weeks of the convention, which was the coronation.
00:21:39.000I want to play Cut 98, and then Andrew, you just kind of go right after the clip.
00:21:42.000You said, Andrew, this kind of Obama talking about nothing with a lot of abstractions and a mirage used to work on you, and it's really fugazi fugazi.
00:22:15.000Tarnished in the in the minds of some but I mean Obama you know Charlie you're me
00:22:23.000Yeah, no, yeah, I mean that's why I was laughing I was thinking
00:22:26.000Blake, to this day, still thinks I'm like a closeted liberal because I used to have positive feelings about Obama.
00:22:31.000Look, all I'm going to say, Andrew, is he wouldn't have become president if you hadn't personally gone out and cast the deciding vote for Barack Obama to become president.
00:22:54.000You're in California, it doesn't matter.
00:22:57.000Genuinely, to Charlie's point, when I was young, I mean younger, Obama's spiel, his sort of abstraction-laden hope about the future, we're the party that does this, and we feel about this, and this is what we believe America can be, and all this stuff.
00:23:18.000It struck me last night as I was watching Obama speak.
00:23:22.000I was like, man, once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
00:23:28.000And I told that to Charlie and Charlie had this amazing riff on it this morning because it's so true.
00:23:35.000When you actually realize how Democrats speak completely in abstractions, divorced of reality, the inversion of the truth, you can't unsee it.
00:23:46.000And it is it's it's like nails on a chalkboard.
00:23:49.000Once you realize what it is and you realize what a mind eff it is, it's an upside down warped reality, this twilight zone of just total made up poison pills that sound really fluffy and nice to the untrained eye and the uneducated.
00:24:09.000And I was coming out of college and Obama, he sounded like, I mean I was sick of Oh, George W. Bush's wars, and frankly, Obama was sounding some of the right notes on that.
00:24:22.000But, you know, now I hear it and I cannot stand it.
00:24:26.000I mean, if you force me to listen to an Obama speech, it's literally nails on a chalkboard.
00:24:33.000And then you hear one after the other, from Pete Buttigieg to all these people, and they are flipping reality on its head.
00:24:39.000And I just find it really offensive now, really genuinely offensive.
00:24:43.000And I wonder what proportion, you know, of the American population, like we've lived through eight years of this.
00:25:00.000In fact, in many ways, they are the exact opposite of that, and they cause destruction, chaos, and they hollow out America.
00:25:06.000But, you know, I think, Charlie, to your point, and I want to make one last point here, Charlie, so my first point is, I don't think it works like it did in 2008, 2006, 2004, first.
00:25:44.000And just to kind of, if you re-watch some of these speeches, you realize it goes from one anecdote, to the next anecdote, to attack on Trump, to an anecdote, to where they attack Trump.
00:25:55.000They say, oh, you know, Trump goes too long, he rambles.
00:25:59.000Oh, I was able to renegotiate NAFTA, and I was able to get NATO to pay more, and there were no new wars, and I can end a war with a phone call.
00:26:04.000We had the best economy ever before COVID came, and we had an amazing border, and in border crossing, all-time low.
00:26:15.000And you would think that this Democrat convention Considering they controlled the White House, and they controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House for two years.
00:26:24.000You would think this would be a parade of accomplishments.
00:26:26.000And then we did this, and then we did that, and now we did this, and then we did that, and then we got this done, and then we got this done, and then we got this done, and then we got, we got healthcare prices down, and we fixed immigration.
00:26:47.000The ground can be misleading, but the ground is an important ingredient in analyzing and assessing the current vibe and the reality of what's happening politically.
00:26:56.000It feels as if that the general population got the sugar high of Kamala for two weeks.
00:27:01.000Is it possible, Jack, that they're trying to force feed a full stomach?
00:27:05.000And the American people are starting to vomit because you can only force feed so much Kamala Harris?
00:27:12.000So when you had Mark Halperin on the other day, and you were talking about the difference between public polls and internal polls, and we were talking about how the Kamala, Super PAC chair or director, came out and said that the internal polls are a lot tighter than the public polls are looking at.
00:27:29.000And I had a source who is a White House contact, the same one who told me that Josh Shapiro had lost the VP nomination, the same one who told me that Waltz was going to be the pick even before CNN had it.
00:27:44.000And the latest that I've got here is swing internals for Kamala have taken a complete nosedive over the course of the events.
00:27:51.000Dylan, Vols, Harrison and Chuck held a crisis meeting earlier.
00:27:57.000And they're currently fighting, you know, kind of discussing over whether or not to drop big cash ads attacking him right now, even before any potential endorsement if it were to come up later this week or something like that.
00:28:10.000And it's just really something where they're looking.
00:28:12.000And again, by the way, that still doesn't mean that the race is completely in the bag for Trump.
00:28:18.000It means that they can see this thing is down to a knife fight.
00:28:22.000We're talking about two, three point swings, but those swings in the states that matter that much, all of a sudden the election tips.
00:28:31.000So you're going to see these little It's almost like a nudge in the momentum actually shifts the swing states just enough that all of the models, and we've talked about these for weeks now here, all of a sudden switch the other way, because just a couple of votes come down.
00:28:48.000And remember, people have these completely false recollections of 2020.
00:28:53.000It's like false memory when it comes to 2020 and 2016, where they were blowouts for Trump, blowouts for very, very close elections that came down to two to three
00:29:05.000states and less than a hundred thousand votes in each case won the entire election.
00:29:12.000So we're talking about a very small number of votes across a very small number of states.
00:29:17.000It's really, I mean, I hate to say it, but it's like a five state election.
00:29:20.000Jack, so this is, this is a running theory that I have is that Kamala Harris, she came
00:29:26.000out big in the primary in 2020 and 2019 and she just dropped off a cliff.
00:29:34.000And this is kind of one of our running theories in the background.
00:29:37.000And I think why, I think, you know, the people that are very smart, that are helping prop up Kamala, know that she cannot close.
00:29:46.000They know that she is her own worst enemy.
00:29:49.000If you look at 2019 as a model, she dropped off a cliff.
00:29:52.000She was, I mean, she went down, she was one of, it came in almost nearly last place in California.
00:30:07.000If history is going to be our guide, Kamala came out with a big bang.
00:30:11.000She was towards the middle of the debate stage during the primaries and then she just lost gas.
00:30:17.000She ran out of fuel and she's not able to actually capture a real movement because she's ultimately vapid and lacking in substance.
00:30:27.000Whereas Trump, And Charlie, you've made this point a thousand times, and I think it's well made, that when you get into September and October, Trump is fixed.
00:30:38.000And you made this observation, I think, today when you watched his mannerisms, the way he was focused in the crowd, when he walked out into the crowd to get the woman who had fainted.
00:31:53.000Again, that's not even worth talking about.
00:31:55.000So, the point is that Trump finishes strong, and he had an amazing rally, and he's going, I know when he's locked in, he's getting into that Tom Brady fourth quarter mode.
00:32:03.000It reminds you, he's like, okay, you know, second quarter was fine, third quarter, maybe threw a pick, maybe a fumble, maybe, you know, you had a kind of just a rough quarter, you were just kind of on the sideline the entire time.
00:32:13.000It kind of reminds me, guys, you've all seen those football games where, like, one team, like, the time of possession is they get, like, one possession the entire third quarter.
00:32:21.000And, like, the other team, like, has— runs the ball for, like, 13 minutes and 41 seconds the entire third quarter.
00:32:26.000And all of a sudden, the fourth quarter kicks in.
00:32:31.000I talked to two reporters today, and they said that they talked to Plouffe about this.
00:32:34.000And David Plouffe privately is like, look, we are well aware something happens to Donald J. Trump the last 45 days, where he gets tunnel vision and he just becomes a maniac.
00:32:43.000And he gets these very, very, very hard-to-beat.
00:32:46.000Now, I want to put 135 up on screen, or 134.
00:32:50.000This was Kamala Harris' first event when she ran for president and announced from president in Oakland, California in 2019.
00:32:55.000To Andrew's point, look at how she started, Andrew.
00:33:06.000Now, the difference is that she's running against Trump, and there's enough Trump derangement and hatred to kind of be a life force behind her.
00:33:12.000There is enough Democrat machinery to kind of keep her alive.
00:33:16.000However, does she have enough organic charisma to be able to motivate Independence to vote for her to swing voters, people that are getting crushed by the economy.
00:33:25.000And this convention, I think has objectively been very well produced from an aesthetic standpoint, but from a messaging standpoint, I do not see this penetrating the American people like they hope.
00:33:36.000Well, now the numbers girl might be interesting, but, but the, someone wants to chime in there?
00:33:42.000Well, no, so I was going to, I was going to add on to what you're saying, Charlie, think about this.
00:33:46.000If anybody, Is the anti-Kamala Harris.
00:35:13.000In some ways, pulling Joe Biden out this late is the perfect formula for Kamala Harris, because I think they secretly know that she cannot keep this up for very long.
00:35:22.000She is a perfect one-term candidate in that sense, if they can get her across the finish line.
00:35:27.000Meanwhile, Donald Trump has developed and cultivated and grown and expanded this movement over nine years, and we are still with him.
00:35:35.000He is the anti-Kamala, and they know it.
00:36:41.000If you look at polls that break out the race multiple ways, RFK, he's not polling where he was a year ago or where he was in January, but he is around.
00:36:51.000He's been getting 3%, 4%, sometimes 5 or 6% on these polls, including in swing states.
00:37:03.000I think, or well, I should, I say Biden, is he taking more from Harris?
00:37:06.000I think one thing that's become a little clear is once Biden dropped out and Harris came in, there was clearly this group of RFK voters who were just very demoralized Democrats upset about Biden.
00:37:21.000And I think as a result of that, RFK supporters who were still going at this point were taken more from potential Donald Trump votes.
00:37:29.000So, if RFK drops out and endorses Trump, I think it's pretty clear that that's very likely to help us more than it is likely to help Democrats.
00:37:39.000And even if it's a half percent, one percent, that is a huge swing in a race where basically 45% of the vote either way is just locked in.
00:38:05.000Blake, to your point, and I told this to Charlie, within, I don't know, 30 minutes of the announcement that RFK was going to be having this press conference about his path forward in Phoenix, In Arizona.
00:38:21.000I mean, I got called by 12 national media reporters.
00:38:59.000We're talking prominent, top, top tier A-list reporters for the top papers and the top outlets in the country within minutes.
00:39:08.000So the eyes of the world are going to be on Phoenix, Arizona on on Friday.
00:39:14.000And, you know, listen, we're along for the ride just like the rest of the rest of you.
00:39:18.000But it's it's It's a huge, huge development if this ends up materializing.
00:39:23.000The timing on that, the timing on that is really good because it'll be, Kamala will give her Thursday night address, you're coming out of it, they'll be getting probably the beginnings of their post-convention bump, and then you turn around the very next day, it's RFK endorsing Trump, and hopefully with some sort of, if this is happening, we're probably going to get a speech where he says why, I think he'll at least have credibility as a guy who's running as a third way, as a moderate, and he'll come out and he'll say, actually, the Democrat ticket, Harris, Walz, they're really radical on all of these things.
00:40:37.000I think on balance, this is going to be a good thing for the campaign and hopefully a good thing for America.
00:40:46.000Yeah, and just imagine, guys, I mean, this might be the most 2024 thing ever that a Kennedy endorses Donald Trump in late August, the day after the DNC.
00:40:56.000I mean, this is the most, if it happens, that... It's like those...
00:41:03.000It's like those jokes they'd tell where they'll say, like, if you sent a newspaper back to 2004, it's like, Donald Trump elected president.
00:41:11.000Now just go back to 2016 and you want to take a newspaper from this year that says, Robert Kennedy Jr.
00:41:50.000I was going to say, my favorite one of those of all, there's this meme of Donald Trump, but it's like, it's like, you know, back in the 80s and it's Donald Trump, 1980.
00:41:59.000And he says, why did time travelers keep trying to kill me?
00:42:30.000This was supposed to be Kamala Harris's convention, the high point.
00:42:33.000But you look at RFK removing himself from example, the Arizona ballot, who actually ends up having the better week?
00:42:41.000Yeah, so I was We were on the same wavelength here, because what that would do is, as you and I are already discussing, and from what I'm hearing is being discussed inside the headshed of the Kamala team, and by the way, Tony West, who is a big advisor to Kamala right now, if you notice, Tony West was not very high energy when he came out and spoke tonight.
00:43:05.000His voice sounded kind of whiny, he just didn't seem like he had a lot of he looked like he had just seen a ghost.
00:43:11.000So this is somebody who certainly is very high up within Kamala's inner circle right now,
00:43:17.000and someone who is directly privy to these types of discussions, or would be.
00:43:21.000So the idea being then that Trump would steal all of the thunder of this week,
00:43:28.000because essentially this entire convention has been a mishmash of all of the Democratic coalition.
00:43:35.000You had the chaos that was outside, the protests, the riots of some sort,
00:43:40.000and then you come in and this was, it was supposed to be Joe Biden, now he's kicked out.
00:43:46.000He leaves the first night, then Obama's in, everything's good, Tim Walz says,
00:43:50.000this just, I'm gonna say it, it's just a weird night.
00:44:15.000At the same time, nothing happened this week that you didn't really expect not to happen, but boom, Friday, is what everyone's already thinking about.
00:44:26.000It's, can Kamala Harris become likable in extended periods of time?
00:44:32.000And number two, can she present any policies that are convincing?
00:44:36.000And I don't think that she necessarily can.
00:44:39.000Andrew, speaking of which, if you watch the entire DNC, you would think you're living in an alternate reality, where you had a sheriff on the border.
00:46:14.000Yeah, and the cookies, in this instance, Charlie, are 10 million illegals that poured through the border and they still like we see them on the city streets we see them in our neighborhoods they're taking up hotel rooms in Chicago literally Chicago and the urban blacks have gone on on tape a thousand times saying they're taking over our neighborhoods and we can't deal with this we don't have any money what about us this is a nationwide problem that you can't just
00:48:28.000Jack, can you educate our audience on what a sophist is?
00:48:32.000Yeah, so sophistry is you're using the you're using obviously fallacious arguments, you're doing so for the purposes of being deceptive.
00:48:43.000And essentially, what you're doing is you're constantly making sure to use these the but you're doing so in a way that's very, that's very slick, some a way that's, you know, it might seem plausible superficially. So if you're not, superficially,
00:48:59.000so if you're not, you know, digging too deep into something, if you're not thinking
00:49:01.000about it, you're just sort of going along with the flow, you're thinking, oh, this is a, you know,
00:49:05.000this is a pretty clever argument, you know, it sort of makes sense what they're saying, until you
00:49:09.000actually start thinking about the nuts and the bolts of it. And you realize that it's completely wrong. So
00:49:15.000typically, these appeals to emotion are found in these, in these cases, well, so you know, sophistry
00:49:22.000is always going to be these ideas of, we need to do these things, because they are for all people.
00:49:29.000We need to be, it's like saying things, we need to welcome all people to come in.
00:49:33.000Anyway, you don't get to define, I think Michelle was saying this last night, you, no one gets to define who is a, you know, who is an American, these types of things.
00:50:28.000And he's going up there with a straight face and lying to the American public that it's actually Trump who's doing it for a photo op and he's the one who's self-serving.
00:50:50.000Look, here's something I have to say though, and Blake, I know that you know what I'm talking about, is that this stuff is effective on a lot of people.
00:50:58.000This stuff is very effective on low-information voters.
00:51:01.000And people who watch politics regularly, people who are up on the news regularly, people who are following every little In and out of things that are going on in politics, like, you know, those of us who are in this business, those of us who watch this kind of content on a regular basis, you know, we're a very small percentage of actual voters out there.
00:51:23.000So most people, they tune into something.
00:51:25.000That's also why the debates are so important, by the way, because that's one of the only times that normies actually tune into politics because, hey, it's fight night.
00:51:32.000That's why Joe Biden could not recover from that disastrous debate. And Nancy Pelosi had to take
00:51:38.000him out, take him out like, like, Nikki, or no, gosh, what was her name? Kristi Noem with the,
00:51:46.000with the dog in the gravel pit. No, so with the, you know, poor Snickers. So, you know, cricket,
00:51:51.000right, poor cricket. And this, this is, this is effective.
00:51:57.000I'm sorry, but it's effective in current and modern American politics.
00:52:00.000Nixon used to talk about this in the jump from print media to TV, and it's only gotten worse since his day.
00:52:08.000Andrew, can you talk about the production value of the DNC?
00:52:14.000So Angela, one of our producers, mentioned in the chat, and it's really, I think, apt.
00:52:21.000Somebody who used to work in Hollywood, he says, even though the production was good, and we can all acknowledge visually, you know, Michelle Obama's speech was fantastic, whatever, well delivered, right?
00:52:32.000I mean, it's like nails on a chalkboard to me, same with Barack, but it's good.
00:52:37.000It's ultra, but it's ultra woke, is what Angela says.
00:52:40.000Increasingly, that type of program doesn't sell.
00:52:43.000Here, and Jack, I'm thinking about something you and I have discussed before, and we talked about how maybe like there's this theory on the internet that like, Peak woke was like November 2023.
00:53:19.000We had it right in the 80s and the 90s.
00:53:21.000They've tried to do these forced storylines of their, you know, bending and twisting scripts to fit in these woke ideologies and make it work.
00:53:32.000And it turns out people just tune out.
00:53:34.000And so, you know, you've got that Chicago Alderman.
00:53:58.000So, so they are, they have not caught on yet because if anybody loves this woke garbage that actually doesn't sell to the masses, It's the Democrat activist base that's going to be very well represented at a DNC.
00:54:11.000They are the ones that need this stuff, so the people that are programming this event are playing to their base because they have to.
00:54:17.000I'm telling you, they are going to find out, exactly like Hollywood did, and is, is currently in the process of finding out, it doesn't sell.
00:54:26.000The ratings suck, nobody buys your tickets, I'm telling you there is only so much of an audience for this.
00:54:31.000I think the Chicago Alderman, yeah he was on Fox and with Ingram, And I take it with a grain of salt, but I actually think it's smart.
00:54:39.000The Democrat Party is not a leading indicator in this.
00:54:42.000They are a lagging indicator because even Hollywood has figured out that that dog doesn't hunt.
00:55:09.000I think this is all playing to their own base, not trying to recruit new people, because clearly the Democratic Party, my party, is not interested in talking about what matters.
00:55:17.000How are you going to keep people safe?
00:55:18.000How are you going to secure the border?
00:55:20.000And how are you going to deal with the 8 million undocumented individuals that they let in under Kamala Harris's lead?
00:55:26.000Because right now, we're like in this beauty pageant of hypocrisy going on right now.
00:55:32.000Yeah, because we say one thing and we're doing the exact opposite.
00:55:36.000You have the most American of American cities where we're telling people to come here, feel welcome, enjoy our beautiful city, and 100% it's a beautiful city, but yet we had to board up every single store in the surrounding area to keep it safe from looters and rioters that our mayor, Brandon Johnson, has welcomed here and said, come and show us what your true colors are.
00:56:29.000I do think they are stuck with certain things they're struggling to overcome, and I think their timing on a few specific things has been suspect.
00:56:38.000I think it's very interesting that Kamala face-planted really hard on that price gouging thing.
00:56:44.000She dropped that right before the convention, so Sunday and Monday, CNN, like mainstream outlets, not us, I say mainstream, Lib Schill outlets come out and are saying, oh yeah, economists agree that this is really stupid.
00:57:01.000Well, they don't think she should do this.
00:57:03.000And so that kind of went flat for them.
00:57:08.000And then now they have the RFK issue, this one million jobs thing, I think, that Did we hit this earlier that the Bureau of Labor Statistics comes out?
00:58:07.000We're gonna get the essay that's like, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, a well-known alt-right organization producing, like, But yeah, this just comes out, and it's a big number.
00:58:53.000That is one in every 200 jobs in the United States that they just whoops-a-daisy miscounted.
00:59:03.000And she's like, you know, she says, little do you know, the Bureau of Land Labor Statistics is full of white supremacists and insurrectionists have taken over the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
00:59:14.000And so just analyzing the, again, I don't want to get too ahead of ourselves, but If anyone on the panel disagrees, you guys can chime in, then we'll wrap this up soon.
00:59:24.000Does anyone feel as if, after this convention, like, wow, we have a real problem on our hands.
00:59:32.000You know, it's kind of if you're, again, I'm not a boxer, I don't do any of that, but the metaphor would be like, you're anticipating the best punch from the opposition, and you realize the punch doesn't have nearly as much zest Or zing, as you would have imagined.
01:00:26.000But yeah, no, but Jack, if they listen to their mobs and their hordes, if Judge Mershawn listens to lock him up, lock him up, then he's going to Rikers.
01:00:49.000I will donate money to Wan-Mershan's daughter's whatever, you know, things.
01:00:54.000Because if they actually give Donald Trump a prison sentence after he's taken a bullet for democracy,
01:01:04.000after he's been convicted in this absolute shame trial, after the two impeachments over absolutely nothing,
01:01:10.000after the spying on him all the way back in 2016 that we barely talk about anymore,
01:01:14.000then they're gonna go and actually claim that they're gonna put him in jail over something
01:01:18.000that no one's ever even been convicted for.
01:01:21.000I honestly just believe that the normal people in this country will be completely sick of it,
01:01:28.000and you would see a landslide win for Trump.
01:01:30.000You would see an absolute landslide win.
01:01:32.000By the way, what I do think that they would do, Um, I.
01:01:36.000Of course, is if you look at the scheduling dates for it, what they would probably end up doing is they would say, okay, he's sentenced, but his, you know, his report on date would be like November 6 or November 7.
01:01:50.000So it would be about two months, two months after.
01:01:54.000So you know, better hope those better hope those mail-in ballots get counted quick and make sure that everybody's doing their their vote chasing and and in the swing states because yeah, his his report date could be very close to like the day after Election Day.
01:02:14.000So, yeah, I just... What else they have to look forward to?
01:02:20.000There also could be three or four other things that just go wrong for Kamala Harris.
01:02:24.000She's gonna have to take questions at some point.
01:02:26.000Tim Wall's gonna have to answer for the stolen valor thing, which, by the way, he dodged his military service almost completely tonight in his speech.
01:02:33.000It was all about being a coach, and it was all about that.
01:02:35.000They're basically like, yo, bro, do not mention the military thing.
01:02:52.000So, look, I mean, you have more chess pieces, if you look at it as a chess game, you have way more moves on the Trump side than on the Kamala side.
01:03:02.000Andrew, do you think we're analyzing that correctly as we begin to wrap this up?
01:03:19.000I'm just genuinely becoming more and more convinced that there are very few plays here.
01:03:26.000I think the Democrats realize that they don't have anything to run on, and so they basically have to, like I said, present the inversion of the truth, and they have to Essentially promote a positive vision and they have to act like Kamala is some outsider.
01:04:21.000And I just think, you know, Waltz is not a value add, really.
01:04:28.000I genuinely think what you're going to see when all said and done, you're going to see A male vote that is going to... The margin of victory for Trump in the male vote, if he does win, is going to be historic.
01:04:43.000I think Trump is going to bleed less with female voters.
01:04:47.000I don't think Waltz fixes that problem for him at all.
01:04:50.000I mean, we had that Dana Bash clip tonight where she basically admitted that Waltz is essentially a stand-in for low testosterone men.
01:05:09.000I give high marks for production value.
01:05:11.000I give high marks for the poetry of the speeches.
01:05:14.000I give high marks for some of the innovative thinking of doing a rally in Wisconsin while the DNC is ongoing.
01:05:24.000I mean, I'm jealous genuinely, and I'm not afraid to admit it, of a lot of their strategy and a lot of their sort of like forward thinking.
01:05:31.000I think there's some very intelligent people here.
01:05:33.000I just genuinely come back to the fact that the raw material they're working with is terrible.
01:06:02.000Trying to put forward male figures, Tim Walz being one of them, Doug Emhoff last night, who can speak to men out there who might not be the sort of Testosterone-laden, you know, gun-toting kind of guy who wants to listen to Hulk Hogan and the kind of players that came out at the RNC, or might want to listen to that, but also, in addition, understand that it's okay in 2024 to be a man comfortable in his own skin who supports a woman.
01:06:41.000And that's something that they really are trying to work on with male voters beyond the base.
01:08:26.000Remember, this was supposed to be a Joe Biden-focused DNC, and Kamala Harris was going to be the vice president, and they had to change Everything at the last minute.
01:08:37.000And I think that's what's showing here.
01:08:38.000I think that's why you're seeing so many of the scheduling issues, so many of the logistics issues.
01:08:43.000I think the media was telling us that this was going to be this, you know, remember Camelot?
01:08:48.000And, you know, is she going to be Obama 2008 all over again?
01:08:52.000And the reason that we're seeing it for what it really is, is, you know, it's it's a political convention.
01:08:58.000And legitimately, their coalition has always had a lot of oddities to it.
01:09:04.000That they are more than willing to make part, based on their ideology, make part of their mainstream appeal.
01:09:11.000You know, this isn't like, you know, Donald Trump bringing up the 1980s icons like Hulk Hogan, 1980s, 90s, you know, even the 2000s.
01:09:20.000And so, you know, you're really seeing the issue there of her poll numbers, her standing, all of this, you know, all of this Headwind that she had on her back was completely fugazi to
01:09:34.000begin with and now that we see the reality settling in it's like no
01:09:38.000It's it's just a regular political fight and Donald Trump actually is more than capable of winning one of those
01:09:44.000Well Jack when you talk about how the final finder yeah, how the media had to
01:09:51.000Really spend a lot of its capital to get her off the starting block here because
01:09:59.000You know, I think there was a real question of whether or not Kamala could close
01:10:04.000the delegates if she could consolidate support
01:10:09.000There was some reporting that said that Obama said, listen, I'm going to get back.
01:10:12.000I'm going to get behind you if we get rid of Joe.
01:10:15.000But if you can't get your poll numbers up, then we're going to have an open convention.
01:10:21.000Uh, within the Democrat apparatus to really spend a lot of its capital gathering momentum behind Kamala Harris.
01:10:29.000And so, Charlie, I think one of the most intelligent, like, insightful points made all night is that you're saying the first two weeks of the announcement post Kamala becoming the nominee was really... That was the convention.
01:10:41.000That was their convention, and they blew their load.
01:10:48.000What you're going to see here is that, you know, like I said earlier, Trump has been building this movement for nine years and we still love the guy.
01:10:55.000Kamala has a very short shelf life and I think you're going to start feeling Kamala fatigue in a very serious way even amongst her influencers who are all paid shills.
01:11:05.000You're going to start seeing this also in the mainstream media and you're going to start seeing the honest journalist come to the fore and really criticize some of these more ridiculous policy proposals that she's going to be forced to put forward if we keep the pressure on her.
01:11:20.000And again, just to summarize, Jack just put this up on Telegram.
01:11:23.000You notice, Tim Walz didn't say anything about Kamala's record.
01:11:25.000It's always about, she's the type of person that really cares.