00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today at Charlie Kirk Show, Brent Bozell joins us about some breaking news from the Department of Homeland Security targeting Turning Point USA.
00:00:11.000That's right, DHS targeting Turning Point USA.
00:00:14.000And we also have John Solomon to talk about the latest FISA news, Durham, and more.
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00:00:55.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:01.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:44.000He wanted to do something different to be distinctive and go on Twitter, try to speak to a younger generation, and it backfired on him, right?
00:01:50.000The technology didn't work, and you can spend it anyway.
00:02:20.000He's 30, 40 points behind, depending on the poll.
00:02:23.000He's got to start to create some momentum very quickly because, as you know, in politics, self-fulfilling failure prophecies are very fast to take effect.
00:02:30.000So he's got to have a couple of good days, a couple of good weeks right away, or his numbers may not move and Donald Trump will solidify his lead.
00:02:38.000And he has a fair amount of competition in that lane right now.
00:02:40.000Tim Scott's going to be very well financed.
00:02:42.000Nikki Haley is rather non-existent, but maybe she'll find some way to disrupt that old deal.
00:02:48.000And Vivek, who is ascendant right now.
00:02:50.000So he's not the only person that is kind of in that I'm not Trump lane.
00:02:54.000So John, you're really hot on this IRS whistleblower story.
00:02:57.000Just refresh our audience through it, kind of go back to the square one and let's walk through it.
00:03:01.000What is going on with the IRS whistleblower story?
00:03:04.000So about three weeks ago, we broke a story right here in Real America's Voice, right at Just the News, that a senior criminal investigative agent for the IRS is actually a supervisor, one of the most decorated agents in the IRS's recent history.
00:03:18.000He brought down some of the Swiss banks.
00:03:20.000He's a very successful, well-trusted agent.
00:03:23.000He had been supervising the IRS team that was working with the FBI for the last few years to investigate Hunter Biden.
00:03:29.000He came forward, first to the Justice Department Inspector General, then to Congress, saying, I have witnessed political interference in the Hunter Biden case.
00:03:37.000Hunter Biden is being treated with political deference.
00:03:41.000He's not being treated like other defendants.
00:03:43.000And my agents, the people that work for me, were being interfered with.
00:03:47.000They weren't allowed to take everyday investigative steps that they would use for any other defendant.
00:03:53.000And so I want to come forward as a whistleblower.
00:03:55.000The Justice Department Inspector General has found him credible, has a full-scale investigation going on with whatever evidence he's produced.
00:04:02.000And now, Congress has voted to receive his testimony.
00:04:06.000That will happen tomorrow morning, about 10 o'clock tomorrow morning.
00:04:09.000The agent will walk into the Office Ways and Means Committee.
00:04:14.000He will give his testimony for the first time, and he'll deliver documents and other evidence to back up his claims that there's been unusual political interference protecting Hunter Biden from the sort of scrutiny he believes should be given to him.
00:04:29.000So, what are the next congressional steps then here?
00:04:32.000I know that there might be some whistleblower protections granted.
00:04:45.000And remember, the original allegations are becoming more and more real, more and more serious through James Comer.
00:04:51.000James Comer is looking at the corruption part of this, and they're getting closer and closer to showing that President Biden, when he was vice president, was assisting his son's multi-million-dollar deals overseas.
00:05:02.000A person in office using U.S. policy to help his family get rich.
00:05:07.000What the IRS whistleblower and some FBI whistleblowers are bringing to the table is the cover-up.
00:05:13.000And sometimes, as you know, in political scandals, the cover-up becomes the bigger scandal when we're all done.
00:05:18.000The IRS whistleblower is one piece of it.
00:05:21.000He'll give his testimony, then the committee will vote to release that testimony to the public so we can all see the evidence.
00:05:27.000Now, on Wednesday, we broke a story, very important, that there is a sorry, Tuesday, that there's a second whistleblower, a subordinate agent to this supervisor agent who also now has written the IRS director saying for two years, the IRS agents pursuing Hunter Biden have been kept from using the tactics they normally use.
00:05:49.000There's also two FBI agents that have come forward saying that as far back as 2020, the FBI was prevented from investigating allegations that Joe Biden was involved in a pay-to-play scandal.
00:06:01.000Not Hunter Biden, but that Joe Biden, and once again, those leads from confidential human sources weren't allowed to be followed.
00:06:09.000And I'm going to take you all the way back to November of 2016.
00:06:12.000I have confirmed that there's an SEC whistleblower complaint from November 1st, 2016, a few days before Donald Trump was elected president.
00:06:21.000He also laid out serious allegations that there were money laundering and other activities going around Hunter Biden.
00:06:27.000What you're seeing is time and time again, the government did not pursue allegations when they pointed towards Joe Biden or Hunter Biden.
00:06:36.000Yeah, John, thanks for all that backstory.
00:06:39.000I mean, I can't believe we're still dealing with 2016.
00:06:41.000You know, they always say you got to look forward, don't look back.
00:06:43.000And here we are talking about 2016 and SEC violations.
00:06:47.000John, I wanted to ask you a question about this breaking news here, though.
00:06:51.000It looks like Comer and Grassley are blasting the FBI for refusing to provide the subpoenaed record that's alleging that then VP Biden was engaged in essentially a bribery scheme.
00:07:04.000So this is not a confidential document.
00:07:14.000Well, they haven't given a good one yet, right?
00:07:16.000They keep saying, well, we want to work with you, but we keep missing the deadline, so we haven't turned it over to you.
00:07:20.000It is not classified, so it's not an intelligence document.
00:07:23.000However, it involves the testimony or evidence that was given by a confidential human source.
00:07:28.000Often, the confidential human sources are given grants of privacy, meaning that the FBI will protect their identity at all costs.
00:07:35.000I think the FBI is probably going to hide behind that for a while.
00:07:38.000But here's what James Comer told me, and I'm sure this is going to happen.
00:07:41.000If it doesn't happen in the next few days, if Chris Ray doesn't relent, James Comer is going to go to the floor of the House and seek a vote to find the FBI director, the FBI director, in contempt of Congress.
00:07:54.000It's never before happened for an FBI director.
00:07:57.000It did once happen for an attorney general.
00:07:58.000Barack Obama's Attorney General was held in contempt.
00:08:02.000Eric Holder back in 2014, as I recall.
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00:09:30.000Look, trust in the FBI is eroding left and right.
00:09:34.000Feels like we're in the moment that we need a real church committee, that this is a moment like when the J. Edgar Hoover FBI clearly was no longer helping the American people.
00:10:07.000And perhaps the most devastating piece of information to come out is after all the assurances Chris Ray has done, after all of the cover that the Democrats has given Chris Ray and the FBI through what's really been six years of significant FBI failures, what did we learn from the FISA court last week?
00:10:23.000We learned that over a two-year period, more than a quarter million Americans, 278,000 Americans, privacy was unlawfully violated by the FBI through upstream searches known as Section 702.
00:10:36.000We would call them warless searches of our phone records.
00:10:39.000That is so devastating to the FBI because Chris Ray's whole thing is, yeah, we had problems.
00:11:52.000I think we're going to find out other lawyers and others have all been affected by these secret exercise of powers for which there's so little oversight.
00:12:00.000I think the most likely scenario that will come of this is that the law will get renewed because it does provide important tools that do stop terror attacks, that do stop counterintelligence events.
00:12:10.000But I think the more likely outcome is every person whose records are going to be searched, every person who's going to be secretly surveilled is going to get a private lawyer without their knowledge who's going to be able to look and contest every action that the FBI takes before they take it.
00:12:25.000It's going to be called a private advocate.
00:12:27.000It'll be somebody that won't be hired by the FBI.
00:12:30.000There'll be an independent agency or party that will be a counterbalance to the FBI.
00:12:34.000A lot of Democrats and Republicans are falling in love with that idea.
00:12:38.000It's something that civil libertarians say could really be useful if you create the right agency, the right people to be the antagonist to the FBI in a court proceeding.
00:12:47.000John Solomon, everyone check out his website, justthenews.com.
00:13:21.000For those of you that support us and pray for us on our high school and college campus work, we are singled out by the regime.
00:13:30.000Joe Biden and his cronies, Alejandre Mayorkas, they are more worried about Turning Point USA than the southern border being wide open.
00:13:37.000The Department of Homeland Security, which is tasked with making sure that we do not have an invasion coming into our country, they don't care about that 10,000, 15,000 illegals invading our country every single day.
00:15:43.000We did a number of FOIAs, 31 to be exact, about this program that the DHS has been funding.
00:15:52.000This was a program that was the targeted violence and terrorism prevention grant program that was started during the Obama administration to look for anti-to look for domestic terrorists.
00:16:06.000The Republicans were skeptical about this because they believed it would be used eventually against Republicans and conservatives.
00:16:13.000The Trump administration shut it down.
00:16:17.000Now the Biden has it, and apparently they've just absolutely weaponized this thing.
00:16:25.000They have now given grants totaling $80 million to, I'm sorry, $40 million to 80 organizations, which they are now giving grants to to specifically go out after conservatives.
00:16:41.000So in this FOIA that we did, just like the DHS, the recipients of this funds won't tell the American people what it is that they're doing, won't tell what they promised to do in return for this money.
00:16:58.000But we've been able to find some things.
00:17:00.000And what we discovered was specifically with the University of Dayton in Ohio is an unbelievable conference that has taken place using taxpayer dollars, where it is now unequivocal, a proven, documented fact that the Biden administration is using federal funds to go after Republicans, to go after conservative organizations,
00:17:28.000and to go after Christian organizations.
00:17:31.000And by the way, Charlie, they have targeted Turning Point USA as part of this.
00:17:36.000What we saw, what we found in their documents, is a triangle, is what we're calling the triangle.
00:17:43.000There are four organ levels that are in this.
00:17:47.000The bottom level, you will see include things like the Fox News.
00:17:53.000It includes the Christian Broadcasting Network.
00:17:58.000It includes the Heritage Foundation, the premier conservative think tank in America.
00:18:04.000It includes the Republican National Committee.
00:18:08.000So already you've got half of America is part of this fascist Nazi-linked operation.
00:18:18.000The second level, which is more serious still, now it has Prager University, Breitbart, Turning Point USA, Tea Party Patriots, the American Conservative Union.
00:18:33.000The third level is pro-Nazi organizations, and the top level is Nazi organizations.
00:18:41.000So you are being linked, and conservatives are being linked, and Christians are being linked.
00:18:46.000And there it is, the evidence for anyone to see they're being linked directly to Nazi organizations by the federal government.
00:18:54.000And Brent, what we don't know, but we can suspect this through the Elon Musk, thanks to Elon Musk, of declassifying, but publicized in the private documents.
00:19:03.000We know that the FBI had standing meetings with Twitter, with Yoel Roth.
00:19:07.000We know that DHS and the Federal Bureau of Investigation had meetings with Mark Zuckerberg.
00:19:13.000And what I'm getting at, Brent, though, is these documents are not innocent.
00:19:16.000It's not just sort of like think tank, abstract, weird op-ed, you know, Twitter opinions.
00:19:21.000These are used as prerequisites for spying, infiltration, indictments, and criminalization, Brent.
00:21:08.000It certainly feels as if the federal government should not be legally allowed to use taxpayer funding to fund efforts that are categorizing organizations like ours as in symmetry with domestic terror.
00:22:06.000There has to be, I think, a criminal investigation into what the Department of Homeland Security is doing with federal funds weaponizing the most radical left-wing government in the history of this nation to shut down anybody who doesn't toe the narrative with them.
00:22:29.000And that includes the Republican Party.
00:22:31.000That includes the conservative movement.
00:22:39.000You know, you've been one of the most important, I think, intellectual figures in the last couple of decades.
00:22:44.000But Brent, I think you probably share my frustration.
00:22:47.000The Vichy French Republicans like Lindsey Graham and these people that are defending the intel agencies, I mean, at what point are they going to realize they're going to get swallowed by this leviathan too, Brent?
00:22:57.000I mean, you're a movement conservative.
00:23:30.000They are weaponizing the federal government under the rubric of national security.
00:23:36.000We have now become the national security threats to them.
00:23:39.000And everything you see in the language of this administration.
00:23:44.000But to your point, you know, Charlie, many Jews have commented on the Holocaust, saying that Jews saw it coming.
00:23:52.000And so many of them looked the other way, just didn't want to believe it was so until it was too late.
00:24:00.000I'm seeing that with Republicans as well.
00:24:02.000The bright light in this, this new crop of conservative leaders we have in the House, they're a different, they're a different mindset about this.
00:24:14.000As I understand it, the Judiciary Committee has jumped all over this this morning.
00:24:19.000I think these guys are going to be a lot more serious than perhaps the investigations we saw in the Obama administration.
00:24:25.000I don't believe they were serious at all.
00:24:28.000We had umpteen hearings, and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama got away with everything that they did.
00:24:37.000All the whitewashing, all the bleaching of computers, all the illegal activity, Benghazi, they got away with everything.
00:24:43.000Hillary Clinton believed she was too big to fail to, they were too big.
00:24:48.000And I think that Bill Clinton believed he was above the law as well.
00:26:06.000Brent, we're going to have you back on.
00:26:08.000We're doing a road show now, and I want to make sure we have you back on the Warren Studio and we can really zero in on this in the next day or two because there's some details to this.
00:26:38.000I was going to say, you mentioned Watergate.
00:26:40.000Richard Nixon, in his most inebriated condition, would never have dreamt of doing this.
00:26:54.000Brent, thank you for sticking with us here.
00:26:56.000So, Brent, I think you're just touching the surface on this, Brent.
00:27:01.000Would you think it's fair to speculate that there's possibly billions of dollars out there that are being spent on this kind of clandestine activity?
00:27:11.000I think that every level of government is being weaponized, whether it is the FBI, the Justice Department, DHS, the military, the wokeism that's taking place in the military.
00:27:34.000What you were just saying a minute ago about how your words were being taken out of context.
00:27:39.000How about this as something that media will never say?
00:27:43.000I mentioned this guy, Michael Lodenthal, who's a supporter of Antifa, who was a speaker at this conference where they used where they advocated linking conservatives and Christians and the Republican Party to Nazis.
00:28:05.000This is what he had to say during the conference.
00:28:08.000He was advocating a more aggressive approach against conservatives.
00:28:13.000He wanted to, and this is a quote, to deny people to shut down their websites, to close their meetings, and get this, to physically prevent them from assembling in public.
00:28:26.000Let me repeat that, to physically prevent them from assembling in public.
00:29:11.000And Brent Bozell, this is not an exaggeration.
00:29:14.000At the top of the pyramid, they have actual neo-Nazi groups, which are probably largely run by federal agents, but they're the ones that are acting like neo-Nazis.
00:29:51.000Charlie, if you were to ask your turning point supporters, if you were to show them that pyramid and at the top of that, show them the symbols for those Nazi organizations.
00:30:04.000I bet you 99.9% of your supporters would not be able to name a single one of those.
00:30:13.000And that 0.1% is probably an infiltrator.
00:30:16.000We conservatives don't know who these people are.
00:30:19.000We don't associate in any way with these people.
00:30:22.000This is to associate us with those symbols of whatever that is is so blatantly dishonest.
00:30:30.000And that's why I believe there has to be a criminal investigation because they're associating us with scum using taxpayer dollars to do it.
00:31:12.000That this person might be, you know, just kind of milling in there, maybe trying to escalate the conversation in a way that otherwise would not be happening.
00:31:19.000Maybe trying to misrepresent, illegally spy, camera record.
00:31:24.000As I was watching our 1,100 pastors and their wives and some elder board members and people, I was like, boy, there's probably a couple federal agents in the mix.