The Charlie Kirk Show - Taxpayer Cash for ANTIFA with John Solomon and Brent Bozelle

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today at Charlie Kirk Show, Brent Bozell joins us about some breaking news from the Department of Homeland Security targeting Turning Point USA.

00:00:11.000 That's right, DHS targeting Turning Point USA.

00:00:14.000 And we also have John Solomon to talk about the latest FISA news, Durham, and more.

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00:01:22.000 Joining us now is the great John Solomon, Justin News.

00:01:26.000 He's also the host of a great program on Real America's Voice.

00:01:29.000 John, welcome to the program.

00:01:30.000 I want to get your initial reaction.

00:01:33.000 How are you analyzing or thinking about the Ron DeSantis launch or failure to launch last evening?

00:01:41.000 John?

00:01:42.000 Yeah, listen, it's a flub.

00:01:44.000 He wanted to do something different to be distinctive and go on Twitter, try to speak to a younger generation, and it backfired on him, right?

00:01:50.000 The technology didn't work, and you can spend it anyway.

00:01:53.000 Oh, we had too many people.

00:01:55.000 But those are the sort of things you do when you have an advance, man.

00:01:58.000 You make sure these things work in advance.

00:02:00.000 Will people remember a year from now?

00:02:02.000 It depends if he keeps flubbing.

00:02:03.000 If he keeps flubbing, this will become a storyline.

00:02:06.000 If he gets his stride, he answers questions.

00:02:08.000 He gets into the policy debates.

00:02:10.000 He explains why he's an alternative to Donald Trump sustaining Donald Trump's policies.

00:02:16.000 Then he has a fighting chance to try to bring up his numbers.

00:02:18.000 He's in a big hole right now, right?

00:02:20.000 He's 30, 40 points behind, depending on the poll.

00:02:23.000 He's got to start to create some momentum very quickly because, as you know, in politics, self-fulfilling failure prophecies are very fast to take effect.

00:02:30.000 So he's got to have a couple of good days, a couple of good weeks right away, or his numbers may not move and Donald Trump will solidify his lead.

00:02:38.000 And he has a fair amount of competition in that lane right now.

00:02:40.000 Tim Scott's going to be very well financed.

00:02:42.000 Nikki Haley is rather non-existent, but maybe she'll find some way to disrupt that old deal.

00:02:48.000 And Vivek, who is ascendant right now.

00:02:50.000 So he's not the only person that is kind of in that I'm not Trump lane.

00:02:54.000 So John, you're really hot on this IRS whistleblower story.

00:02:57.000 Just refresh our audience through it, kind of go back to the square one and let's walk through it.

00:03:01.000 What is going on with the IRS whistleblower story?

00:03:04.000 So about three weeks ago, we broke a story right here in Real America's Voice, right at Just the News, that a senior criminal investigative agent for the IRS is actually a supervisor, one of the most decorated agents in the IRS's recent history.

00:03:18.000 He brought down some of the Swiss banks.

00:03:20.000 He's a very successful, well-trusted agent.

00:03:23.000 He had been supervising the IRS team that was working with the FBI for the last few years to investigate Hunter Biden.

00:03:29.000 He came forward, first to the Justice Department Inspector General, then to Congress, saying, I have witnessed political interference in the Hunter Biden case.

00:03:37.000 Hunter Biden is being treated with political deference.

00:03:41.000 He's not being treated like other defendants.

00:03:43.000 And my agents, the people that work for me, were being interfered with.

00:03:47.000 They weren't allowed to take everyday investigative steps that they would use for any other defendant.

00:03:53.000 And so I want to come forward as a whistleblower.

00:03:55.000 The Justice Department Inspector General has found him credible, has a full-scale investigation going on with whatever evidence he's produced.

00:04:02.000 And now, Congress has voted to receive his testimony.

00:04:06.000 That will happen tomorrow morning, about 10 o'clock tomorrow morning.

00:04:09.000 The agent will walk into the Office Ways and Means Committee.

00:04:14.000 He will give his testimony for the first time, and he'll deliver documents and other evidence to back up his claims that there's been unusual political interference protecting Hunter Biden from the sort of scrutiny he believes should be given to him.

00:04:29.000 So, what are the next congressional steps then here?

00:04:32.000 I know that there might be some whistleblower protections granted.

00:04:34.000 What can we expect?

00:04:35.000 And this is a serious kind of slow-motion scandal.

00:04:39.000 One of the most remarkable ones, actually.

00:04:42.000 What can we expect from a timeline perspective?

00:04:44.000 A lot of things going on.

00:04:45.000 And remember, the original allegations are becoming more and more real, more and more serious through James Comer.

00:04:51.000 James Comer is looking at the corruption part of this, and they're getting closer and closer to showing that President Biden, when he was vice president, was assisting his son's multi-million-dollar deals overseas.

00:05:02.000 A person in office using U.S. policy to help his family get rich.

00:05:06.000 That's the original thing.

00:05:07.000 What the IRS whistleblower and some FBI whistleblowers are bringing to the table is the cover-up.

00:05:13.000 And sometimes, as you know, in political scandals, the cover-up becomes the bigger scandal when we're all done.

00:05:18.000 The IRS whistleblower is one piece of it.

00:05:21.000 He'll give his testimony, then the committee will vote to release that testimony to the public so we can all see the evidence.

00:05:27.000 Now, on Wednesday, we broke a story, very important, that there is a sorry, Tuesday, that there's a second whistleblower, a subordinate agent to this supervisor agent who also now has written the IRS director saying for two years, the IRS agents pursuing Hunter Biden have been kept from using the tactics they normally use.

00:05:47.000 That adds to the story of cover-up.

00:05:49.000 There's also two FBI agents that have come forward saying that as far back as 2020, the FBI was prevented from investigating allegations that Joe Biden was involved in a pay-to-play scandal.

00:06:01.000 Not Hunter Biden, but that Joe Biden, and once again, those leads from confidential human sources weren't allowed to be followed.

00:06:09.000 And I'm going to take you all the way back to November of 2016.

00:06:12.000 I have confirmed that there's an SEC whistleblower complaint from November 1st, 2016, a few days before Donald Trump was elected president.

00:06:21.000 He also laid out serious allegations that there were money laundering and other activities going around Hunter Biden.

00:06:27.000 What you're seeing is time and time again, the government did not pursue allegations when they pointed towards Joe Biden or Hunter Biden.

00:06:34.000 That becomes the cover-up story.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, John, thanks for all that backstory.

00:06:39.000 I mean, I can't believe we're still dealing with 2016.

00:06:41.000 You know, they always say you got to look forward, don't look back.

00:06:43.000 And here we are talking about 2016 and SEC violations.

00:06:47.000 John, I wanted to ask you a question about this breaking news here, though.

00:06:51.000 It looks like Comer and Grassley are blasting the FBI for refusing to provide the subpoenaed record that's alleging that then VP Biden was engaged in essentially a bribery scheme.

00:07:04.000 So this is not a confidential document.

00:07:07.000 Am I right?

00:07:07.000 It's not classified in any way.

00:07:09.000 They are free to deliver this document to them.

00:07:12.000 What's their excuse for not doing so?

00:07:14.000 Well, they haven't given a good one yet, right?

00:07:16.000 They keep saying, well, we want to work with you, but we keep missing the deadline, so we haven't turned it over to you.

00:07:20.000 It is not classified, so it's not an intelligence document.

00:07:23.000 However, it involves the testimony or evidence that was given by a confidential human source.

00:07:28.000 Often, the confidential human sources are given grants of privacy, meaning that the FBI will protect their identity at all costs.

00:07:35.000 I think the FBI is probably going to hide behind that for a while.

00:07:38.000 But here's what James Comer told me, and I'm sure this is going to happen.

00:07:41.000 If it doesn't happen in the next few days, if Chris Ray doesn't relent, James Comer is going to go to the floor of the House and seek a vote to find the FBI director, the FBI director, in contempt of Congress.

00:07:53.000 That would be a momentous event.

00:07:54.000 It's never before happened for an FBI director.

00:07:57.000 It did once happen for an attorney general.

00:07:58.000 Barack Obama's Attorney General was held in contempt.

00:08:02.000 Eric Holder back in 2014, as I recall.

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00:09:19.000 Let's play a piece of tape here about the Durham report.

00:09:26.000 Let's play cut seven, and I'd like John's reaction.

00:09:29.000 Play cut seven.

00:09:30.000 Look, trust in the FBI is eroding left and right.

00:09:34.000 Feels like we're in the moment that we need a real church committee, that this is a moment like when the J. Edgar Hoover FBI clearly was no longer helping the American people.

00:09:43.000 There was a moment.

00:09:44.000 It feels like we might be in one of those moments.

00:09:46.000 John Solomon, is it inconceivable that we might get bipartisan support for a church committee?

00:09:53.000 Your thoughts?

00:09:54.000 It's not inconceivable.

00:09:55.000 I know a lot of Democrats now are privately expressing concern.

00:09:59.000 They're a little concerned.

00:10:00.000 They don't want to come out too publicly because they feel like it supports Trump and they still have their obsessions with Donald Trump.

00:10:06.000 But it's obvious now.

00:10:07.000 And perhaps the most devastating piece of information to come out is after all the assurances Chris Ray has done, after all of the cover that the Democrats has given Chris Ray and the FBI through what's really been six years of significant FBI failures, what did we learn from the FISA court last week?

00:10:23.000 We learned that over a two-year period, more than a quarter million Americans, 278,000 Americans, privacy was unlawfully violated by the FBI through upstream searches known as Section 702.

00:10:36.000 We would call them warless searches of our phone records.

00:10:39.000 That is so devastating to the FBI because Chris Ray's whole thing is, yeah, we had problems.

00:10:44.000 I fixed them.

00:10:45.000 It turns out he hasn't fixed anything.

00:10:47.000 In fact, the problems have accelerated over the last couple of years.

00:10:51.000 Now Democrats have jumped off the Chris Ray ship.

00:10:54.000 I think you're going to see some bipartisan reforms.

00:10:57.000 The first opportunity will be in a couple of months when the Patriot Act comes up for renewal.

00:11:02.000 I think you're going to see significant changes.

00:11:04.000 They're not going to rubber stamp it for the first time since after 9-11.

00:11:08.000 Yeah, John, I want to ask a follow-up question on this.

00:11:11.000 What was the likelihood that that actually gets passed in some way, shape, or form first?

00:11:17.000 Handicap that for us.

00:11:18.000 But secondly, how much of this do you think is due to the fact that these FISA abuses actually targeted BLM?

00:11:26.000 So they actually went after the sacred cow of the left.

00:11:29.000 Is that helping this?

00:11:30.000 Did the FBI finally overstep accidentally?

00:11:33.000 Yeah, listen, the number is so vast.

00:11:36.000 It's so large that even Democrats realize it's being used against everyone.

00:11:40.000 It isn't just Donald Trump and Russia Collusion, Carter Page, and George Papadopoulos.

00:11:44.000 We have an FBI that's become a political spy force.

00:11:47.000 And the fact that it is bipartisan in some way, the BLM, I think we're going to find out.

00:11:52.000 Journalists.

00:11:52.000 I think we're going to find out other lawyers and others have all been affected by these secret exercise of powers for which there's so little oversight.

00:12:00.000 I think the most likely scenario that will come of this is that the law will get renewed because it does provide important tools that do stop terror attacks, that do stop counterintelligence events.

00:12:10.000 But I think the more likely outcome is every person whose records are going to be searched, every person who's going to be secretly surveilled is going to get a private lawyer without their knowledge who's going to be able to look and contest every action that the FBI takes before they take it.

00:12:25.000 It's going to be called a private advocate.

00:12:27.000 It'll be somebody that won't be hired by the FBI.

00:12:30.000 There'll be an independent agency or party that will be a counterbalance to the FBI.

00:12:34.000 A lot of Democrats and Republicans are falling in love with that idea.

00:12:38.000 It's something that civil libertarians say could really be useful if you create the right agency, the right people to be the antagonist to the FBI in a court proceeding.

00:12:47.000 John Solomon, everyone check out his website, justthenews.com.

00:12:50.000 Fabulous reporting.

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00:12:52.000 Thanks so much, John.

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00:13:01.000 Just to refresh your memory here, we are now seeing a mass targeting of conservative groups.

00:13:07.000 We talked about it yesterday with the Rolling Stone article.

00:13:10.000 And now we have evidence.

00:13:12.000 We have evidence that the Department of Homeland Security, Joe Biden's DHS, is targeting and going after Turning Point USA.

00:13:20.000 That's right.

00:13:21.000 For those of you that support us and pray for us on our high school and college campus work, we are singled out by the regime.

00:13:30.000 Joe Biden and his cronies, Alejandre Mayorkas, they are more worried about Turning Point USA than the southern border being wide open.

00:13:37.000 The Department of Homeland Security, which is tasked with making sure that we do not have an invasion coming into our country, they don't care about that 10,000, 15,000 illegals invading our country every single day.

00:13:49.000 No, no, no, no.

00:13:50.000 What they're focused on is that Turning Point USA is teaching young people about the Constitution.

00:13:55.000 We are part of the pyramid, the pyramid to radicalization.

00:13:59.000 We're going to explain that, that we are part of a flowchart to pure millions of dollars.

00:14:03.000 Yeah, millions of dollars of our taxpayer money through DHS.

00:14:06.000 When we said that our government is going to criminalize conservatives, it wasn't an exaggeration.

00:14:12.000 They consider us to be a domestic terror organization.

00:14:16.000 And we're going to talk about what we can do about that, including suing our own government.

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00:15:25.000 The Department of Homeland Security has been funding these outside groups, outsourcing.

00:15:31.000 Okay, and to walk us through this all is the great Brent Bozell from Newsbusters, aka Media Research Center.

00:15:37.000 Brent, welcome to the program.

00:15:38.000 Tell us about the story.

00:15:40.000 Charlie, here's what's going on.

00:15:43.000 We did a number of FOIAs, 31 to be exact, about this program that the DHS has been funding.

00:15:52.000 This was a program that was the targeted violence and terrorism prevention grant program that was started during the Obama administration to look for anti-to look for domestic terrorists.

00:16:06.000 The Republicans were skeptical about this because they believed it would be used eventually against Republicans and conservatives.

00:16:13.000 The Trump administration shut it down.

00:16:17.000 Now the Biden has it, and apparently they've just absolutely weaponized this thing.

00:16:25.000 They have now given grants totaling $80 million to, I'm sorry, $40 million to 80 organizations, which they are now giving grants to to specifically go out after conservatives.

00:16:40.000 And we have the evidence.

00:16:41.000 So in this FOIA that we did, just like the DHS, the recipients of this funds won't tell the American people what it is that they're doing, won't tell what they promised to do in return for this money.

00:16:58.000 But we've been able to find some things.

00:17:00.000 And what we discovered was specifically with the University of Dayton in Ohio is an unbelievable conference that has taken place using taxpayer dollars, where it is now unequivocal, a proven, documented fact that the Biden administration is using federal funds to go after Republicans, to go after conservative organizations,

00:17:28.000 and to go after Christian organizations.

00:17:31.000 And by the way, Charlie, they have targeted Turning Point USA as part of this.

00:17:36.000 What we saw, what we found in their documents, is a triangle, is what we're calling the triangle.

00:17:43.000 There are four organ levels that are in this.

00:17:47.000 The bottom level, you will see include things like the Fox News.

00:17:53.000 It includes the Christian Broadcasting Network.

00:17:58.000 It includes the Heritage Foundation, the premier conservative think tank in America.

00:18:04.000 It includes the Republican National Committee.

00:18:08.000 So already you've got half of America is part of this fascist Nazi-linked operation. 0.57

00:18:18.000 The second level, which is more serious still, now it has Prager University, Breitbart, Turning Point USA, Tea Party Patriots, the American Conservative Union.

00:18:31.000 Now that is a higher level.

00:18:33.000 The third level is pro-Nazi organizations, and the top level is Nazi organizations.

00:18:41.000 So you are being linked, and conservatives are being linked, and Christians are being linked. 0.58

00:18:46.000 And there it is, the evidence for anyone to see they're being linked directly to Nazi organizations by the federal government.

00:18:54.000 And Brent, what we don't know, but we can suspect this through the Elon Musk, thanks to Elon Musk, of declassifying, but publicized in the private documents.

00:19:03.000 We know that the FBI had standing meetings with Twitter, with Yoel Roth.

00:19:07.000 We know that DHS and the Federal Bureau of Investigation had meetings with Mark Zuckerberg.

00:19:13.000 And what I'm getting at, Brent, though, is these documents are not innocent.

00:19:16.000 It's not just sort of like think tank, abstract, weird op-ed, you know, Twitter opinions.

00:19:21.000 These are used as prerequisites for spying, infiltration, indictments, and criminalization, Brent.

00:19:28.000 We now know that.

00:19:30.000 Thoughts on that?

00:19:31.000 Sure.

00:19:32.000 What has Joe Biden said about MAGA?

00:19:35.000 Joe Biden has said, has it has attached MAGA to Nazis.

00:19:40.000 What did he say last week in Georgetown about the biggest threat to America today is racism?

00:19:48.000 And when he talks about racism, he then equates it to MAGA.

00:19:52.000 So all of this is part and parcel of the narrative of the federal government.

00:19:56.000 But now they're using millions of dollars.

00:19:59.000 It explains why these people aren't coming.

00:20:04.000 It's going to get even, it's going to get even better than this.

00:20:07.000 We had at this conference that was held at the New York State, all this came out.

00:20:13.000 They had one speaker who associated Ronda Sanders with the Holocaust.

00:20:19.000 They had another speaker who associated Donald Trump with Paul Plott, who was the genocide mastermind in Cambodia.

00:20:26.000 It gets even better than this.

00:20:28.000 You've got this one fellow, Lodenthal, Michael Lodenthal, who presented this triangle.

00:20:35.000 Who is Michael Lodenthal?

00:20:36.000 Well, Michael Lodenthal, among other things, you're not going to believe this, is a member of Antifa.

00:20:42.000 And not only is he a member of Antifa, he's a big supporter of the Earth Liberation Front.

00:20:50.000 Why is that interesting?

00:20:53.000 You're not going to believe this, Charlie?

00:20:54.000 The Earth Liberation Front has been designated by the FBI as a domestic terrorist operation.

00:21:02.000 Well, Brent, you guys are doing heroes' work at the Media Research Center.

00:21:06.000 And so is this illegal?

00:21:08.000 It certainly feels as if the federal government should not be legally allowed to use taxpayer funding to fund efforts that are categorizing organizations like ours as in symmetry with domestic terror.

00:21:23.000 I mean, what are the guidelines here?

00:21:26.000 We're willing to sue.

00:21:27.000 We're already looking at clarity.

00:21:28.000 We're actually, Andrew, we're looking at a different DHS lawsuit right now, aren't we?

00:21:32.000 Yes.

00:21:33.000 So Brent, please chime in.

00:21:34.000 Well, I'm not a lawyer, but if I were one, I would tell you there are two statutes that call for criminal investigation.

00:21:45.000 One is 18 USC, Section 241.

00:21:48.000 The other one is 18 USC, Section 242.

00:21:51.000 Both of them focus on the fact that it is illegal for the federal government to abridge the rights of speech to any of its citizens.

00:21:58.000 And that's exactly what's going on here.

00:21:59.000 So we're calling on Mayorkis. 0.99

00:22:01.000 This is one more reason this guy, Mayorkis, has to go.

00:22:04.000 But it's not just that he has to go.

00:22:06.000 There has to be, I think, a criminal investigation into what the Department of Homeland Security is doing with federal funds weaponizing the most radical left-wing government in the history of this nation to shut down anybody who doesn't toe the narrative with them.

00:22:29.000 And that includes the Republican Party.

00:22:31.000 That includes the conservative movement.

00:22:34.000 And that now includes Christians. 0.93

00:22:36.000 And Brent, you are a movement conservative.

00:22:38.000 You deserve so much credit.

00:22:39.000 You know, you've been one of the most important, I think, intellectual figures in the last couple of decades.

00:22:44.000 But Brent, I think you probably share my frustration.

00:22:47.000 The Vichy French Republicans like Lindsey Graham and these people that are defending the intel agencies, I mean, at what point are they going to realize they're going to get swallowed by this leviathan too, Brent? 1.00

00:22:57.000 I mean, you're a movement conservative.

00:22:58.000 You're a constitutional guy.

00:23:00.000 I'm a little bit upset because in some ways, DHS, Brent, was founded by George W. Bush.

00:23:05.000 The Department of Homeland Security is a creature of the Bush administration.

00:23:10.000 Brent, your thoughts on how this is an agency created by the Bush-Cheney regime that is now being used against the conservative movement.

00:23:17.000 You know, I remember having great debates when the Patriot Act came out.

00:23:20.000 I was supporting it and my libertarian friends were opposed to it.

00:23:24.000 And the argument they made is one day it's going to be used against us.

00:23:27.000 And you know what?

00:23:28.000 It's turned out to be true. 0.94

00:23:30.000 They are weaponizing the federal government under the rubric of national security.

00:23:36.000 We have now become the national security threats to them.

00:23:39.000 And everything you see in the language of this administration.

00:23:44.000 But to your point, you know, Charlie, many Jews have commented on the Holocaust, saying that Jews saw it coming.

00:23:52.000 And so many of them looked the other way, just didn't want to believe it was so until it was too late.

00:24:00.000 I'm seeing that with Republicans as well.

00:24:02.000 The bright light in this, this new crop of conservative leaders we have in the House, they're a different, they're a different mindset about this.

00:24:14.000 As I understand it, the Judiciary Committee has jumped all over this this morning.

00:24:19.000 I think these guys are going to be a lot more serious than perhaps the investigations we saw in the Obama administration.

00:24:25.000 I don't believe they were serious at all.

00:24:28.000 We had umpteen hearings, and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama got away with everything that they did.

00:24:37.000 All the whitewashing, all the bleaching of computers, all the illegal activity, Benghazi, they got away with everything. 0.98

00:24:43.000 Hillary Clinton believed she was too big to fail to, they were too big.

00:24:48.000 And I think that Bill Clinton believed he was above the law as well.

00:24:52.000 And guess what?

00:24:53.000 They were.

00:24:54.000 And all of this has emboldened the Biden administration to do.

00:24:58.000 These are run by Marxist ideologues.

00:25:01.000 That's who's running this administration.

00:25:03.000 And they have a mission to destroy this country. 0.72

00:25:06.000 Charlie, I didn't, once upon a time, you never wanted to use the phrase anti-American.

00:25:11.000 That was something you just did not use.

00:25:13.000 These folks are anti-American.

00:25:15.000 This is a neo-Marxist movement that has taken control of the government and they are doing what every Marxist operation does.

00:25:25.000 The first thing it tends to do is slam down free speech so you can't have it.

00:25:30.000 This is what you saw in Silicon Valley.

00:25:33.000 This is what you saw in the 2020 campaign.

00:25:35.000 By the way, Charlie, it continues.

00:25:36.000 It hasn't stopped.

00:25:37.000 The cover-up of Joe Biden continues.

00:25:40.000 And Republicans who think that the story is getting out through the Washington Post or the New York Times or ABC, they're all on crack.

00:25:48.000 The story is still not being told.

00:25:50.000 This is why it's so important, Charlie, that you folks are talking about it, that your podcast is talking about it.

00:25:56.000 This is why it's so critically important that conservatives do our own storytelling to the movement.

00:26:02.000 We need to have the Audience Support Media Research Center.

00:26:05.000 They're a fabulous organization.

00:26:06.000 Brent, we're going to have you back on.

00:26:08.000 We're doing a road show now, and I want to make sure we have you back on the Warren Studio and we can really zero in on this in the next day or two because there's some details to this.

00:26:15.000 You guys deserve great credit, Brent.

00:26:17.000 This is a smoking gun.

00:26:18.000 This is worse than Watergate.

00:26:20.000 Let me say this again.

00:26:20.000 It's worse than Watergate, where you have the federal government via the DHS going after not just one organization.

00:26:26.000 It's not just a political party.

00:26:27.000 You're going to have to turning point USA, PragerU, Breitbart.

00:26:30.000 You're going after random organizations.

00:26:33.000 This is not an exaggeration.

00:26:34.000 Your own government on the same document is.

00:26:36.000 Yes, please, Brent.

00:26:38.000 I was going to say, you mentioned Watergate.

00:26:40.000 Richard Nixon, in his most inebriated condition, would never have dreamt of doing this.

00:26:54.000 Brent, thank you for sticking with us here.

00:26:56.000 So, Brent, I think you're just touching the surface on this, Brent.

00:27:01.000 Would you think it's fair to speculate that there's possibly billions of dollars out there that are being spent on this kind of clandestine activity?

00:27:11.000 I think that every level of government is being weaponized, whether it is the FBI, the Justice Department, DHS, the military, the wokeism that's taking place in the military.

00:27:26.000 They all are there on a mission.

00:27:29.000 There's a political agenda to everything this administration is doing.

00:27:33.000 I want to say something, Charlie.

00:27:34.000 What you were just saying a minute ago about how your words were being taken out of context.

00:27:39.000 How about this as something that media will never say?

00:27:43.000 I mentioned this guy, Michael Lodenthal, who's a supporter of Antifa, who was a speaker at this conference where they used where they advocated linking conservatives and Christians and the Republican Party to Nazis.

00:28:05.000 This is what he had to say during the conference.

00:28:08.000 He was advocating a more aggressive approach against conservatives.

00:28:13.000 He wanted to, and this is a quote, to deny people to shut down their websites, to close their meetings, and get this, to physically prevent them from assembling in public.

00:28:26.000 Let me repeat that, to physically prevent them from assembling in public.

00:28:32.000 That was his call.

00:28:33.000 He's not talking about taking and making paper airplanes and throwing them in a room.

00:28:38.000 He's talking about exactly what's happening all over the country, physically preventing.

00:28:44.000 This is, in my view, this is calling for violence.

00:28:49.000 This is advocating violence to prevent conservatives from assembling.

00:28:54.000 And oh, by the way, these are his words in this conference.

00:28:59.000 You ready?

00:29:00.000 A lot of things we are doing are illegal.

00:29:04.000 A lot of it involves breaking the law.

00:29:08.000 Unquote.

00:29:09.000 Wow.

00:29:10.000 Absolutely incredible.

00:29:11.000 And Brent Bozell, this is not an exaggeration.

00:29:14.000 At the top of the pyramid, they have actual neo-Nazi groups, which are probably largely run by federal agents, but they're the ones that are acting like neo-Nazis.

00:29:25.000 Let's be honest.

00:29:26.000 This is Gestapo-like behavior.

00:29:28.000 I'm going to go after my political dissidents.

00:29:30.000 I mean, Brent, that's not an exaggeration.

00:29:33.000 This is fascistic.

00:29:34.000 This is totalitarian.

00:29:35.000 This is tyrannical.

00:29:36.000 This is not about freedom of speech or discourse.

00:29:39.000 And you're right, Brent.

00:29:40.000 I was a pro-Patriot Act guy back, you know, 05, 06, 07.

00:29:44.000 We need it.

00:29:44.000 And guess what?

00:29:45.000 The guns have been turned on us.

00:29:47.000 They are now calling us the terrorists.

00:29:49.000 Final thoughts, Brent Bozell.

00:29:51.000 Charlie, if you were to ask your turning point supporters, if you were to show them that pyramid and at the top of that, show them the symbols for those Nazi organizations.

00:30:04.000 I bet you 99.9% of your supporters would not be able to name a single one of those.

00:30:13.000 And that 0.1% is probably an infiltrator.

00:30:16.000 We conservatives don't know who these people are.

00:30:19.000 We don't associate in any way with these people.

00:30:22.000 This is to associate us with those symbols of whatever that is is so blatantly dishonest. 0.97

00:30:30.000 And that's why I believe there has to be a criminal investigation because they're associating us with scum using taxpayer dollars to do it. 0.89

00:30:39.000 Brent Bozell, thank you so much.

00:30:41.000 Excellent job.

00:30:42.000 We'll have you back on soon.

00:30:43.000 Everyone should support Media Research Center, MRC.

00:30:45.000 They do a great job.

00:30:46.000 Thanks so much.

00:30:46.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:30:47.000 Closing thoughts here, Andrew?

00:30:49.000 What a day so far.

00:30:51.000 I mean, everybody could hear the background.

00:30:54.000 It's kind of interesting.

00:30:55.000 We had 1,100 pastors and wives.

00:30:57.000 And as they were going by, you know what I was thinking?

00:30:58.000 I said, how many of them are feds?

00:31:01.000 Terrible thought.

00:31:02.000 No, I'm not kidding.

00:31:02.000 No, it's a fair thought.

00:31:03.000 I mean, you know, we can vet as much as we want, but I was thinking, I said, boy, that person might be federal agent.

00:31:10.000 That's what this document shows us.

00:31:12.000 That this person might be, you know, just kind of milling in there, maybe trying to escalate the conversation in a way that otherwise would not be happening.

00:31:19.000 Maybe trying to misrepresent, illegally spy, camera record.

00:31:23.000 This is not a joke, everybody.

00:31:24.000 As I was watching our 1,100 pastors and their wives and some elder board members and people, I was like, boy, there's probably a couple federal agents in the mix.

00:31:32.000 That is what we are seeing.

00:31:34.000 They are infiltrating our churches.

00:31:36.000 They are infiltrating.

00:31:37.000 It's not even.

00:31:38.000 They did this at Latin Mass, the Catholic great organization.

00:31:42.000 So this is not some sort of, this is not some sort of, you know, speculative.

00:31:46.000 No, absolutely.

00:31:47.000 I mean, why wouldn't we assume?

00:31:50.000 I mean, it's, by the way, everybody out there watching, be on the lookout.

00:31:54.000 If you're involved in any activists, any grassroots activism, try to find the Fed.

00:31:59.000 It's possible.

00:32:01.000 It's probably likely.

00:32:02.000 I hope I'm wrong.

00:32:04.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:32:06.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:10.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:32:14.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 25, 2023

Taxpayer Cash for ANTIFA with John Solomon and Brent Bozelle

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