The Charlie Kirk Show - Taylor Swift: Deep State Op?

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, sweet home Chicago.

00:00:02.000 It's not so sweet anymore.

00:00:04.000 William Kelly joins the program as we lament the downfall and destruction of my favorite place in America, my once favorite place in America.

00:00:11.000 I love Chicago and I hate what is happening to it.

00:00:14.000 We also talk with Mike Benz about is Taylor Swift an up?

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00:01:32.000 What a great city Chicago used to be.

00:01:34.000 You know, I was just recently speaking with a Chicagoan who's not a real political guy.

00:01:38.000 And he said, you know, I would defend Chicago up until about two years ago.

00:01:41.000 Now I'm done.

00:01:42.000 He's like, the city is dead.

00:01:44.000 It is over.

00:01:45.000 It's really sad.

00:01:46.000 And I just, I said, is there any life?

00:01:47.000 Is there any hobby said there?

00:01:48.000 It is just a completely captured institution.

00:01:51.000 And it's getting worse.

00:01:55.000 And it's getting worse.

00:01:56.000 It's sad.

00:01:56.000 I don't celebrate this.

00:01:58.000 I don't delight in this.

00:02:01.000 William J. Kelly is with us.

00:02:02.000 He's a terrific reporter.

00:02:05.000 William, lots of different aspects here.

00:02:08.000 What is the latest with going on O'Hare International Airport?

00:02:12.000 They've just taken over the entire airport.

00:02:14.000 Walk us through it.

00:02:15.000 Well, we've been reporting from O'Hare and every other migrant shelter in the city of Chicago for, it seems like, for forever now.

00:02:25.000 And, you know, they're trying to move the migrants out of O'Hare.

00:02:30.000 Actually, I think Governor Pritzker and Mayor Johnson are already trying to put a fresh coat of paint on O'Hare for the DNC convention, which is going to be in the city of Chicago, as you know, in 2024.

00:02:48.000 National media is expected to arrive in Chicago next week.

00:02:52.000 And the last thing that Governor Pritzker wants or Mayor Johnson wants is for them to immediately be greeted by migrants sleeping on the floor. 0.88

00:03:02.000 Yeah, so it ties into what's happening in New York City where they took over a Hamilton school.

00:03:08.000 And so then Mayor Johnson, who is terrible, he's a total Marxist. 0.98

00:03:13.000 He says that sending illegals to New York and Chicago is because they hate black mayors. 0.95

00:03:19.000 Now, I thought, William, that the people of Chicago overwhelmingly have voted for open borders and diversity is our strength.

00:03:27.000 So why are they all of a sudden upset that hundreds of thousands of illegals are coming to their city?

00:03:33.000 Well, you know, it would almost be funny if it wasn't our city, my city, the city I love with all my heart, the city I was born and raised in.

00:03:42.000 There was a suburban mayor who had a sign on her front lawn that said, all are welcome.

00:03:50.000 All is love.

00:03:51.000 We love science.

00:03:52.000 And then as soon as the migrant buses pulled up to her front doorstep, the sign disappeared.

00:03:59.000 Charlie, it's gone.

00:04:00.000 And now she is telling these bus drivers that they need to keep going all the way to the city of Chicago.

00:04:07.000 What I would say to, you know, people who seem to be happy about the demise of a great American city like Chicago is that it's literally in the middle of America, you know.

00:04:23.000 And I'm not a military intelligence officer here, but I do know that destroying a major American city is probably not going to be good long term for the future of the United States of America, for our freedom.

00:04:40.000 You know, whether you live in literally ground zero like I do, you know, right across the street from a migrant shelter right off of Michigan Avenue, if you can picture this, Charlie, I know you can, the magnificent mile, right?

00:04:54.000 But, you know, whether even if you live in a suburb of Chicago or even anywhere in the Midwest, you should realize, okay, I don't think you have to be a military intelligence officer to realize that these migrants are not just going to stay in the Gold Coast Hotel, even though it's a pretty good deal. 0.65

00:05:18.000 You know, I know a lot of Americans, homeless, vets, and others that would probably jump at the opportunity, but they're going to venture out.

00:05:27.000 And this is not going to bode well for the Midwest.

00:05:34.000 Chicago is the economic engine of the Midwest, as you know.

00:05:38.000 If Chicago fails, the Midwest fails.

00:05:40.000 America fails.

00:05:41.000 This is not, you know, so this whole idea of, you know, Chicago gets what it deserves, which I've been hearing, by the way, like for the last 20 years from Republicans and conservative leaders telling me whenever I said, you know, rang the alarm bell, hey, have you heard about this guy, the state senator, Barack Obama?

00:05:59.000 You know, they were, they almost took glee in telling me Chicago gets what it deserves.

00:06:07.000 Well, guess what?

00:06:08.000 America is going to be, is going to pay the price for this, not just not Chicago.

00:06:14.000 Chicagoans are oddly well adapted to chaos, to violent crime, to corrupt politicians.

00:06:23.000 You know, we are oddly well adapted to this.

00:06:26.000 I'm not 100% sure that the suburbs of Chicago are.

00:06:29.000 Yeah, no, the collar counties, I don't think, are ready for this.

00:06:32.000 So here's my question, though.

00:06:35.000 What is the breaking point?

00:06:37.000 Why are people still putting up with this?

00:06:39.000 I just, the people of Chicago that I grew up with are decent and they are hardworking, but this is so past the, I mean, so the answer to my own question is, why are they putting up with it?

00:06:52.000 Because they're in Naples, Florida now, or they're in Scottsville.

00:06:55.000 Right?

00:06:56.000 I mean, I think anyone that has the, you excluded, but the gusto, the testosterone, the spirit to fight tyranny, they're now my neighbors in Arizona.

00:07:07.000 Is there some truth to that?

00:07:09.000 There's a lot of truth to that. 0.98

00:07:11.000 And the survival instinct in my own brain is telling me to run from the violent criminals, the migrants, the corrupt politicians, and the straight-up lunatics. 1.00

00:07:20.000 But the reporter in me is telling me that Chicago is the opportunity of a lifetime. 0.83

00:07:27.000 Okay.

00:07:28.000 You know, we have been reporting on what I call the migrant money shell game at reporter William JKelly.com.

00:07:36.000 It's like it's like 20 Pulitzer Prizes waiting to happen.

00:07:42.000 You know, we've got these, you know, like I said, the Democrat National Convention is coming to town.

00:07:49.000 So we're, you know, I'm definitely going to, I'm going to be here, God willing, reporting with the violent criminals, the migrants, the corrupt politicians, and until the final act. 0.98

00:08:07.000 What is Brandon Johnson saying?

00:08:09.000 Oh, well, he has a solution, Charlie.

00:08:11.000 Haven't you heard?

00:08:12.000 He's got a one-word solution to violent crime, reparations.

00:08:17.000 He says that if you would just be willing to pay the violent criminals reparations for slavery, then he might consider addressing violent crime in the city of Chicago, which by the way, if you refresh your screen, literally, I mean, you could get literally a blister on your finger refreshing the screen.

00:08:39.000 There's a horrific crime that when you and I were kids would have been like the crime of the century.

00:08:48.000 Now it's the crime of the, you know, of the moment in the city of Chicago, the one-day crime.

00:08:53.000 And it's always a violent repeat offender.

00:08:56.000 It's always, by the way, someone who is usually out on a gun charge.

00:09:01.000 Now, you know, Governor Pritzker is just literally, he just had what he calls an assault weapon ban in the state of Illinois.

00:09:14.000 It went into effect on New Year's Day on legal gun owners, right?

00:09:20.000 Law-abiding gun owners, but yet the violent repeat offenders are always out on a gun charge, committing new crimes and posting photos of themselves on social media, holding up ARs with extended magazines.

00:09:37.000 So the only people in the city of Chicago or the state of Illinois now that seem to be the only punishable offense in the state of Illinois is to be a reporter asking an elected official a question.

00:09:50.000 That's the first one.

00:09:51.000 And or a legal gun owner.

00:09:54.000 There were 646 homicides and 3,077 shootings in Chicago last year alone.

00:10:03.000 It is far more dangerous than people realize.

00:10:06.000 William, how do people support your work and follow what you're doing?

00:10:09.000 Well, I never would have thought as a reporter that I would need a legal defense fund, Charlie.

00:10:13.000 But as you know, Lightfoot, I'm in federal, I'm still in federal court.

00:10:18.000 Lightfoot revoked my media credential.

00:10:22.000 So reporter Williamjkelly.com, there's a legal defense fund there.

00:10:28.000 I intend to report all the way through the DNC convention in August and beyond.

00:10:34.000 And anytime you're in town, let me know.

00:10:37.000 We will go on a tour of Chicago.

00:10:42.000 Yeah, in an armored vehicle with lots of armed people during the middle of the day.

00:10:46.000 William, thank you so much.

00:10:48.000 Thank you.

00:10:48.000 Great work.

00:10:49.000 God bless you.

00:10:50.000 Thank you.

00:10:50.000 It's not a joke.

00:10:51.000 I don't feel safe in downtown Chicago anymore.

00:10:53.000 It is so sad.

00:10:54.000 It's so tragic.

00:10:55.000 You got these thugs that are running the streets.

00:10:59.000 It's not fun.

00:11:00.000 I text the Chicago police.

00:11:02.000 They say don't come here.

00:11:03.000 Do not come to downtown Chicago.

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00:12:10.000 Several topics we want to cover here, but I want to just elaborate on this.

00:12:14.000 You know, growing up in Chicago, it is such a tragedy what's happened there.

00:12:19.000 Chicago growing up had this vibe, this energy that has just completely been sucked out of it.

00:12:27.000 And it's not COVID.

00:12:29.000 I think back to when Barack Hussein Obama became president in 2008 and Grant Park was filled up as far as the eye could see.

00:12:39.000 I think back to even 2011, 2012, it still had this appeal and it has become a laughing stock for the rest of the country.

00:12:48.000 I was proud to be from Chicago.

00:12:50.000 You know, people laugh at me when I say I'm from Chicago.

00:12:52.000 I kid you not.

00:12:53.000 I say, yeah, I'm from Chicago.

00:12:54.000 And they say, yeah, right.

00:12:56.000 I say, no, I'm from the suburbs of Chicago.

00:12:58.000 They say, really?

00:13:00.000 It is without a doubt now considered one of the hellholes of America.

00:13:06.000 And that's too bad because it's not that bad in the suburbs.

00:13:09.000 And there's still some amazing people there.

00:13:11.000 And I have some great friends there.

00:13:13.000 But what is the reason that Chicago has fallen apart?

00:13:17.000 What is the reason?

00:13:19.000 Multifactor.

00:13:20.000 Number one, self-inflicted, without a doubt.

00:13:24.000 But honestly, it was weak Republicans that set the baseline for this: weak and corrupt Republicans, Governor Edgar, many others.

00:13:33.000 And it was a cause set in motion for many years that people refused to make the tough and the necessary decisions in Illinois.

00:13:44.000 An unfunded pension problem, which then led to high taxes and big government-type spending, and Mike Madigan being Speaker of the House for nearly 40 years.

00:13:54.000 Illinois is about 15 years ahead of Washington, D.C.

00:13:59.000 It's the same sort of mentality.

00:14:04.000 No concern about cutting spending.

00:14:06.000 It's all victim politics.

00:14:08.000 646 homicides. 0.74

00:14:10.000 There's 646 homicides in the city of Chicago, the vast majority of which, and I'm talking about 78% of them are black victims and black perps, and 17% are Hispanic victims and Hispanic perps.

00:14:26.000 So, for those of you keeping score at home, in Chicago, there's 646 murders.

00:14:35.000 3.9% of them involve white people.

00:14:39.000 And yet, the leader of Chicago, Mayor Johnson, is worried about white supremacy.

00:14:46.000 Well, Mayor Johnson, why don't you try to improve the cultural dynamics, the family dynamics of black culture in Chicago?

00:14:59.000 Because they're never interested in that.

00:15:01.000 They're interested in blaming the white guy.

00:15:03.000 In fact, look at this piece of tape here.

00:15:06.000 Mayor Johnson goes out and he says it's an attack on people of color. 0.93

00:15:11.000 He says that it's because we're black they hate us. 0.98

00:15:15.000 No, you're just a Marxist. 1.00

00:15:16.000 You're a terrible guy. 1.00

00:15:17.000 You're a terrible mayor. 1.00

00:15:18.000 He's worse than Lightfoot, who is worse than Tiny Dancer. 0.99

00:15:22.000 Ram Emanuel.

00:15:24.000 Chicago is this very, very tragic story.

00:15:28.000 And it is in a complete and total death spiral.

00:15:32.000 Who actually wants to live in Chicago?

00:15:34.000 By the way, property values are down and property taxes are coming up.

00:15:38.000 And it could be solved, by the way.

00:15:39.000 That's what's so tragic about this.

00:15:42.000 It could be solved.

00:15:43.000 If a leader came in and was serious about cleaning up the streets and increasing a police force, the people of Chicago are tough.

00:15:53.000 There it is, that's Chicago.

00:15:54.000 3,777 people shot 646 total homicides.

00:15:59.000 Only 3.9% of the assailant.

00:16:01.000 By the way, this is so funny.

00:16:04.000 So this is a fact.

00:16:07.000 So there were 646 murders.

00:16:11.000 How many assailants in Chicago are white out of 646 murders?

00:16:16.000 Four.

00:16:18.000 Four.

00:16:19.000 So there's 646 homicides, and four of them are white people. 0.92

00:16:24.000 And yet, all you hear about is white supremacy and white supremacy and white men.

00:16:29.000 And four of the assailants.

00:16:32.000 How many of the assailants were black?

00:16:37.000 59.

00:16:40.000 And also notice the discrepancy between assailants and victims.

00:16:43.000 Most go unsolved, by the way.

00:16:45.000 Just, we don't know.

00:16:46.000 They just don't even look into it.

00:16:48.000 They don't care.

00:16:51.000 It's so fixable.

00:16:52.000 And yet, we're lectured that we live in a racist country and we need reparations and we need redistributing wealth and we need all this sort of stuff.

00:17:01.000 Chicago is a test case.

00:17:03.000 And these lies have real consequences, which is why we're doing the show that we're going to be doing Monday.

00:17:08.000 These lies unchecked result in tragic murder, bloodshed.

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00:18:06.000 Okay, joining us now is Mike Benz.

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00:18:10.000 Mike, welcome to the program.

00:18:13.000 So there's a lot going on here.

00:18:15.000 I've said for a while that Taylor Swift is an op.

00:18:17.000 I mean, we have the Kansas City Swifties that are playing on Saturday night after a paywall peacock with Travis Kelsey.

00:18:26.000 Now, for us, it was just the gut feeling.

00:18:27.000 And I was half kidding.

00:18:28.000 I said all the time.

00:18:29.000 I said, I was half kidding.

00:18:30.000 This thing feels so forced.

00:18:31.000 And I remember I was at a grocery store recently and every single magazine was Taylor.

00:18:36.000 So I said, this is just so over the top.

00:18:37.000 This is just out of control.

00:18:39.000 And then Travis Kelsey has the most commercials I've ever seen any human being ever have.

00:18:44.000 I mean, he has like Experian, he has Pfizer, he has State Farm.

00:18:49.000 I mean, you can't get away from him.

00:18:50.000 I said, the guy's good, but he's not that good.

00:18:53.000 And so the whole thing feels like an op, but you stumbled upon some tape and some documents that suggests that the Masters of the Universe actually proposed Taylor Swift being an op to fight for democracy.

00:19:08.000 Walk us through it.

00:19:10.000 Yeah, so this is pretty crazy.

00:19:11.000 So my antenna stick about Taylor was up coming into last week because Taylor Swift made a video a couple months back complaining that her discography had been purchased by the Carlisle group and the Soros family.

00:19:26.000 Now, the Carlisle group was the private equity arm of the Iraq war.

00:19:30.000 They were the sort of Cheney Rumsfeld, sort of finance profiteering arm of that.

00:19:37.000 There's a lot of ink that's been spilled about the war machine around the Carlisle group.

00:19:42.000 So I thought, oh, that's a little odd that the Carlisle group would be investing in the rights of Taylor Swift because we've seen many times in history the music industry being used as an instrument of statecraft.

00:19:56.000 I've gone through this history many times before my timeline, for example, all the way back from jazz diplomacy in the 1940s when the State Department was using black jazz musicians as state assets in order to get sovereign African nations after World War II to come around to the U.S. versus Russia.

00:20:13.000 Same thing with the Congress for Cultural Freedom, where the CIA used to sponsor classical music conferences in Paris and in Rome during the Cold War, and then in Berlin and in West Germany during the Cold War when it came to punk rock.

00:20:32.000 And then even all the way down to rap music, the Cuban Revolution in 2020 in that summer, the theme song for that revolution was this song called Patria Evida, which was a song that was created by a group called the Santa Cedric Movement, who was a Cuban black rapper gang that was incubated by the National Endowment for Democracy, which is a CIA cutout.

00:20:56.000 So there's this long history that Taylor Swift sort of enters the picture in.

00:21:00.000 And when I saw that her discography was purchased by the Carlisle group, and she actually had to re-record her own songs last year just to have rights to her own music because the war machine had bought her original one.

00:21:12.000 I thought, uh-oh, Taylor Swift is an instrument of statecraft.

00:21:16.000 They're using her the same way they've used so many others.

00:21:18.000 That's all sort of setting the stage for last week.

00:21:21.000 So I was doing a research stream for folks who follow me.

00:21:25.000 I was doing this sort of three-hour deep dive going through a NATO psychological operations conference on social media censorship from 2019.

00:21:34.000 And that's not hyperbole or overstatement when I say this.

00:21:38.000 It's the official YouTube channel of something called the NATO Center of Excellence in Riga, Latvia.

00:21:44.000 Now, you have to understand, in 2014, after the Crimea annexation, NATO decided that war had changed and there was no longer any such thing as conventional war.

00:21:56.000 Now, they weren't expecting the 2022 events to happen in terms of a hot war with Russia.

00:22:02.000 At that point, NATO had never had to fire a defensive bullet, despite having been around since 1949.

00:22:08.000 And they had never had to actually use one of their own tanks.

00:22:13.000 I mean, they've obviously been a part of air raid things with Yugoslavia and Libya and whatnot.

00:22:18.000 But they decided in 2014 that war had become a hybrid of the kinetic and the psychological, essentially, that war was mostly now about political warfare than about kinetic warfare.

00:22:31.000 And so they underwent a shift to create these so-called centers of excellence in strategic communications and in psychological operations in order to make sure that the internal political systems of Eastern Europe were buffered against Russia, so to speak.

00:22:46.000 But of course, the catch for this is that any right-wing populist group that was NATO skeptic or Euroskeptic or wanted cheap Russian gas was deemed to be, ipso facto, backed by the Russians and therefore the purview of these centers of excellences to censor on social media.

00:23:04.000 And I'll give you a great example.

00:23:06.000 None other than our friend Jack Pasoviek was featured on the cover of the Atlanta Council's February 2018 Defending Disinformation Against Democracy Against Disinformation cover when the Atlanta Council, who has seven CIA directors on its board and bills itself as NATO's think tank, did a network, a narrative network analysis and said that Jack Pasovik was the number one influencer for promoting Marine Le Pen online.

00:23:34.000 And the Atlanta Council had determined that Maureen Le Pen in France, who was opposing Macron and lost in a nail-biter 52-48 election, was backed by the Russians because she wanted the Nord Stream 2 pipeline up and running.

00:23:47.000 And she wanted cheap Russian gas as opposed to the expensive American alternative.

00:23:52.000 And so, as a result, you essentially had the CIA, the CIA cutouts making the argument that Jack Basobiak needed to be censored on Twitter because of his outside influence in propping up a French political candidate who was positive on Russian energy.

00:24:10.000 So, you see how this whole thing gets corrupted.

00:24:12.000 But essentially, in this, and I'll wind it home now to the Taylor Swift aspect of this.

00:24:17.000 So, we're watching this presentation, and it's hosted formerly by NATO's Psychological Operations Center.

00:24:24.000 And the people who are the panelists are all war machine people and psychological operations people in particular.

00:24:30.000 It's Renee DeResta, who started her career in the CIA and who went on to be the chief architect in many respects of the 2020 censorship of mail-in ballots.

00:24:42.000 It was her work through the Stanford Internet Observatory and the Election Integrity Partnership, who targeted you personally, Charlie.

00:24:47.000 Renee DeResta at EIP literally had you, Charlie Kirk, as the uh as the uh one of the top 21, quote, repeat misinformation spreaders delegitimizing mail, uh, the use of mail-in ballots, and they put you in a grid to take you out.

00:25:05.000 And so, she's on this panel, and again, at the time, it wasn't known that she began her career in the CIA.

00:25:10.000 So, was uh, so was someone from the uh 88th, the 77th Brigade for British Military Intelligence.

00:25:16.000 But it turned out the speaker for this particular clip worked at Graphica.

00:25:21.000 You know, Graphica started its operations as part of the Minerva Initiative, which is the psychological warfare research center of the Pentagon.

00:25:30.000 They got $7 million in grants from the Pentagon to do psychological operations work.

00:25:34.000 And this woman from the Pentagon's, a private psyops firm, is pitches at the NATO PSYOPS conference to use people like Taylor Swift.

00:25:44.000 Now, she said, I'll be clear, she said people like Taylor Swift, but she had Taylor Swift's image on there.

00:25:50.000 She said, We've worked with Taylor Swift in the past when we had her do get out the vote campaigns, and we had when we had her work with the CDC, potentially NATO could work with her or other people like her when it comes to helping NATO's brand and doing psychological operations related to NATO war efforts.

00:26:07.000 So, you have, and it was her picture, and on the screen as she's doing this presentation, is talking about how she can be trained to echo the messaging that will be useful to the sponsor, the sponsor being NATO Psychological Operations.

00:26:22.000 All right, let's play cut 164.

00:26:24.000 Here is the tape: let's play cut 164.

00:26:26.000 So, the first one that's most famous and the most common is working with famous people or main influencers to share information, a particular message.

00:26:39.000 So, I include Taylor Swift in here because are you kidding me?

00:26:45.000 Center of Excellence, the NATO Center of Excellence in 2019. 0.93

00:26:52.000 Taylor Swift, who I've probably rage-posted about 1,400 times about as a geopolitical instrument of statecraft because her IP discography was purchased by the Carlisle Group, the Carlisle Group, the private equity arm of the Iraq war with Dick Cheney on its board and the entire Halliburton West Texas oil mafia.

00:27:21.000 So, the so we have all these kind of different pieces together.

00:27:27.000 What is the Taylor Swift op?

00:27:31.000 There's obviously somebody is either using or deploying Taylor Swift for a reason.

00:27:39.000 I mean, and then, by the way, we must understand she's been less political, to be perfectly fair in recent years.

00:27:45.000 But the last time she was political was she's very, very upset that Roe versus Wade was repealed.

00:27:51.000 She sent out a tweet on that. 0.66

00:27:53.000 And she also, just crying like a hysterical little girl, went into a tantrum because she saw an advertisement for Marsha Blackburn.

00:28:00.000 It's worth playing.

00:28:01.000 Play Cut 162.

00:28:03.000 Really is a big deal. 1.00

00:28:05.000 She votes against fair pay for women.

00:28:09.000 She votes against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, which is just basically protecting us from domestic abuse and stalking.

00:28:16.000 Stalking.

00:28:17.000 She votes. 1.00

00:28:18.000 She thinks that if you're a gay couple, or even if you look like a gay couple, you should be allowed to be kicked out of a restaurant.

00:28:25.000 It's really basic human rights and it's right and wrong at this point. 1.00

00:28:29.000 And I can't see another commercial and see her disguising these policies behind the words Tennessee Christian values.

00:28:40.000 Those aren't Tennessee Christian values.

00:28:43.000 I live in Tennessee.

00:28:44.000 I am Christian.

00:28:45.000 That's not what we stand for.

00:28:48.000 Okay.

00:28:49.000 Do you want me to go off for this at this minute?

00:28:51.000 Is that yes?

00:28:52.000 Okay.

00:28:52.000 So basically, yes.

00:28:54.000 So let's just start right away with her recent political involvement.

00:28:54.000 Okay.

00:28:59.000 That is true that she's not one of these kind of Oprah Winfrey type people who's constantly sort of going off, making news cycles about her politics. 0.97

00:29:08.000 But she actually was very influential in the 2020 election.

00:29:11.000 She not only did this big baking cookies for Biden drive and was highly public for several months about going out to vote for Biden, but she actually did the voter recruitment voter drive turnout.

00:29:23.000 So much so that MSN actually published a piece only a week and a half ago calling Taylor Swift the quote secret weapon of the Biden administration to get young people to turn out to vote for him.

00:29:36.000 So this is one of these things where precisely because of what you said, that she's not hyper-political in any sort of constant sense, that it's almost like either strong beliefs loosely held, that is, she doesn't necessarily really believe, she's not a real big vibrance, but she'd be turned on for it.

00:29:52.000 If I wanted to create an op, if I did, I would have the most popular woman of the year singer date a popular Midwestern tight end for the Kansas City Chiefs.

00:30:06.000 It just, it's a, it's an op made in heaven.

00:30:11.000 All right, Mike, please continue.

00:30:12.000 And also just remember, she's not overly political, but she did a little Biden thing passively in 2020.

00:30:18.000 I want to be very clear.

00:30:19.000 She was, you know, in favor of Biden, put up the Biden cookie thing.

00:30:21.000 Please keep going.

00:30:22.000 Yeah.

00:30:23.000 And then you have the fact that she's in the middle of the largest tour in human history right now, this ERA's tour.

00:30:30.000 It has the GDP of a top 50 country.

00:30:34.000 And she is doing this tour, which again, we know that these large concert tours have often been instrumentalized for DOD purposes, as I mentioned just now in the Iraq and Afghanistan example with Miles Copeland and Don Rumsfeld.

00:30:49.000 And here you have the same Don Rumsfeld Network, the Carlisle group, who personally purchased Taylor Swift's discography two years ago.

00:30:57.000 But then beyond that, you have the fact that Taylor Swift's music, if you actually look at its geographic penetration, has been at its highest globally right now in India, Pakistan, and the Philippines.

00:31:10.000 Now, I find this very, very curious because all three of these countries have in-process regime change operations from the State Department.

00:31:20.000 In Pakistan, for example, You have the case of Imran Khan, who was who it came out there was a State Department cable promising the military establishment in Pakistan sanctions relief and economic rewards if they went forward with this no confidence vote that got him as the democratically elected leader of Pakistan kicked out of office.

00:31:44.000 And then they Donald Trumped him.

00:31:45.000 He was subject to over 190 criminal charges and as well as arrested for hate speech and many other things, all because of his position in defying essentially the Pentagon, CIA, UK, Brussels war machine when it came to everything from the Ukraine-Russia war.

00:32:07.000 They very decidedly sided not with Ukraine on that, I'll say, as well as purchasing the oil and arms on a continuing basis from Russia to maintain their economy.

00:32:20.000 Same thing with Modi in India.

00:32:22.000 I've written extensively about the Biden administration's and State Department's efforts to try to regime change Modi from India, and as well as in the Philippines, it was the 2016 election in the Philippines that preceded Brexit and that preceded the Trump election.

00:32:39.000 That was the original crisis of the national security state and wanting to control and censor social media because the wrong people were getting elected.

00:32:49.000 The Philippines doesn't really have its own.

00:32:51.000 There's also this vote.org element to this.

00:32:53.000 And if, so let's just say they were building and building and building.

00:32:56.000 And again, there's a lot of suspicion, and we're half kidding with her being a central intelligence agency op and all that.

00:33:01.000 I'm half kidding.

00:33:02.000 But there's something here, right?

00:33:04.000 Whether it be the creative arts agency, CAA, whether it be there's something here that is synthetic and forced, and all of us feel it.

00:33:12.000 And, you know, you've done a great job of laying out some of the other data points that might kind of figure it.

00:33:16.000 And look, she's unbelievably popular.

00:33:17.000 She was person to the year.

00:33:18.000 I've never seen a celebrity have an attachment with her fans.

00:33:22.000 It's absolutely unbelievable.

00:33:23.000 She deserves credit for that.

00:33:24.000 And it's something that then could be used and deployed.

00:33:26.000 So let's just about as quick as you can, Mike. 0.95

00:33:28.000 If she were to then be deployed as a Democrat get out the vote operation, what would that look like? 0.90

00:33:35.000 What would the steps that need to fall into place if that were to be true?

00:33:38.000 Well, we know for, well, I should note this was not in the clip from the NATO, from that two-minute thing I clipped from the three-hour stream, but actually in that very conference, the Pentagon PSYOPS person went on to cite the empirical statistical data points around the effectiveness of Taylor Swift in her get-out-the-vote operations in seasons past.

00:34:02.000 And so they, so we know that was not only like a hypothetical thing they might do, she literally said specifically Taylor Swift because studies have shown that when she says to get out the vote, then millions of young people do it.

00:34:17.000 And we know that the young people tend to vote overwhelmingly for the establishmentarian candidate pushed by the media, both in the U.S. and in Europe.

00:34:29.000 So, you know, I don't think NATO has this charitable drive to just try to get every person in the country to vote as out of civic duty.

00:34:38.000 I think they want their own puppet candidates to win the elections.

00:34:43.000 And so young people voted for Macron.

00:34:46.000 Young people overwhelmingly voted for Biden.

00:34:49.000 Young people voted primarily against Brexit.

00:34:54.000 And so I think that when they say get out the vote, and Taylor Swift is effective at that, and here are studies showing that at a NATO psychological operations unit, and it's the Pentagon, the U.S. side that's pushing that.

00:35:08.000 That to me is all you need to say that it goes.

00:35:11.000 Something about this, it just feels forced.

00:35:14.000 And it is my hope that Taylor Swift sticks to just doing music.

00:35:18.000 I think it's going to be bad for her brand.

00:35:20.000 I mean, not that I'm one to give her advice.

00:35:22.000 She stayed away from a lot of this stuff.

00:35:23.000 I hope she does this coming fall, but we better be on guard because she could be an unbelievable asset for Biden and the Democrat Party.

00:35:30.000 Thanks, Mike Bence.

00:35:31.000 Really appreciate it.

00:35:34.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:36.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 12, 2024

Taylor Swift: Deep State Op?

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