The Charlie Kirk Show - Teaching Your Kids to Be In The World, Not Of It — My Speech at TP Academy's Educators' Summit

00:00:00.000 The Educator Summit.

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00:00:02.000 The Educator Summit brought to you by Turning Point USA Turning Point Academy run by the great Dr. Hutz Hertzberg.

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00:00:09.000 I talk about education.

00:00:11.000 What are we pointing towards?

00:00:12.000 What is the ultimate purpose of education?

00:00:15.000 If you homeschool or if you are upset with your government school, upset with public school, this is the conversation for you.

00:00:21.000 I think you are going to thoroughly enjoy it.

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00:00:31.000 Here we go.

00:00:32.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:00:43.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:44.000 He's an incredible guy.

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00:01:32.000 So I've been taking it easy this conference, you know, just sitting by the pool.

00:01:36.000 And First Hutz, you're doing a fabulous job, the entire Turning Point Education team.

00:01:40.000 Can you give it up for them?

00:01:44.000 And Dr. Gooch and Dr. Firestone and Scott and Jennifer and Francine, the whole team, they're just wonderful.

00:01:51.000 And we're going to talk about a couple things and we'll just do QA because I really want to hear from you guys and answer whatever questions you might have.

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00:02:08.000 We need to make Turning Point Education a household name as well.

00:02:10.000 So help us with that, everybody.

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00:02:14.000 And they're just doing such fabulous, fabulous work.

00:02:16.000 I want to talk about two things in particular.

00:02:18.000 The first of which is the greatest failure of modern education and what we should do to fix it and how far too often Christians fall into the trap. 1.00

00:02:27.000 Now, I know you won't fall into the trap because you heard from our wonderful Turning Point Education gang, and then I'm going to talk just about some other real life implications.

00:02:35.000 If you had to distill the biggest problem in modern education, it goes like this.

00:02:39.000 It's that I do not want to impose upon my kid anything specific.

00:02:44.000 We're going to have values-neutral education, and we're just going to kind of raise them with reading, writing, and arithmetic.

00:02:52.000 We'll give them skills, but not values.

00:02:56.000 This has penetrated so many schools, including supposed Christian schools in this country, and itself is actually a contradiction. 0.87

00:03:05.000 Because saying that you will not teach values is a statement of value.

00:03:10.000 There is no such thing as a valueless statement.

00:03:13.000 Everything has values laced into it.

00:03:15.000 So to say that we're not going to do morality or ethics is basically saying that itself is a statement of morality and ethics. 0.75

00:03:24.000 Now, understand how silly this is.

00:03:26.000 In any environment when you're raising children, any environment when you have human beings, morals will always come through.

00:03:32.000 So imagine if you're running a fourth-grade classroom and a kid steals a pencil.

00:03:36.000 Does the teacher say that's perfectly fine?

00:03:38.000 We don't do moral judgments around here.

00:03:40.000 If the kid starts bullying somebody else, you know, we have anti-bullying campaigns across the country while simultaneously we're told that the education system is only about reading, writing, and arithmetic.

00:03:52.000 Now, here's the problem, is that we have successfully pushed back on the left and the secular movement on DEI and wokeism and transgenderism, mainly because when you create a vacuum, when you get rid of God, Christianity, biblical truth, Western values, and you say we're just going to be a value-agnostic education system, that's how you get DEI and you get CRT.

00:04:15.000 Because some viewpoint is going to fill that vacuum.

00:04:18.000 Nature abhors a vacuum.

00:04:20.000 And so we have been led by the whole idea of modernity that these kids are just going to kind of figure it out for themselves.

00:04:29.000 And so then This other side fills the void rather quickly.

00:04:33.000 How did this happen?

00:04:34.000 It happened because in the modern world, God is just a guess.

00:04:40.000 Judgment is the greatest sin, and self is God. 0.95

00:04:45.000 So think about it.

00:04:46.000 Judgment is the greatest sin of the modern world.

00:04:50.000 And incorporated in biblical Christian moral teaching is an idea that there is a right or a wrong and a good and an evil and a standard of ethical and moral behavior.

00:05:00.000 That bothers some people because they're saying, well, who are you to tell a fourth grader how to act?

00:05:04.000 That is the purpose of education, which is to tell a fourth grader how to act.

00:05:08.000 It's not a byproduct.

00:05:10.000 It is the mission statement.

00:05:11.000 It is the primary thing.

00:05:13.000 And so what you've found in the secular West, and it's finally changing, is we have skilled graduates with no values.

00:05:24.000 We have graduates that can write codes of AI, but they have no character.

00:05:29.000 They, some of whom, not all of them, know stuff, but they have no idea why they're actually here.

00:05:37.000 They went through education and they can tell you how, but they can't tell you why.

00:05:43.000 They can tell you what they can do, but they don't tell you any of the implications behind it.

00:05:49.000 That is not education, everybody.

00:05:51.000 That is something completely different.

00:05:53.000 And far too often, we as Christians get very apprehensive because we feel as if we do not want to be judgy or we don't want to tell other people how to live.

00:06:04.000 Everybody, we should bring everybody to the truth of the gospel.

00:06:07.000 We should bring everybody to the scriptures.

00:06:09.000 And that starts in Christian education.

00:06:13.000 So the three questions, and you guys know all of these questions, and education should be talking about them all the time.

00:06:19.000 How did I get here?

00:06:20.000 Why am I here?

00:06:22.000 And where am I going?

00:06:23.000 That's it.

00:06:24.000 If you accomplish those three questions, it doesn't matter if they are struggling to be able to, you know, do the quadratic equation.

00:06:34.000 It's fine.

00:06:35.000 We could teach them that eventually.

00:06:36.000 But if they know, how did I get here?

00:06:40.000 Why am I here?

00:06:41.000 And where am I going?

00:06:43.000 You have done a phenomenal job as an instructor, as a parent.

00:06:47.000 What I find on campus is they can't answer any of those questions.

00:06:52.000 And each one leads to the other.

00:06:54.000 So what the modern world has tried to do is they've tried to just only ask, answer the middle question and ignore the first and the third question.

00:07:04.000 So they'll say, well, you're here just to kind of serve yourself.

00:07:07.000 You're here to, the most generous interpretation of the Western secular world is, well, you're here to do good.

00:07:14.000 Really, what is good?

00:07:15.000 By what standard is it good?

00:07:17.000 You're appealing to some transcendent standard.

00:07:19.000 What is good?

00:07:20.000 Oh, it's just common sense.

00:07:21.000 Actually, no, it's not.

00:07:23.000 Tell me, what is the good you're talking about?

00:07:25.000 When in reality, you must say, how did I get here?

00:07:28.000 Well, we know how we got here.

00:07:29.000 We're created in the image of God.

00:07:31.000 We know that.

00:07:32.000 That God created the heavens and the earth.

00:07:34.000 We know why we are here, which is to love God and love people, create disciples of all nations, and to know Jesus and to make him known.

00:07:40.000 And hopefully we know where we're going.

00:07:42.000 So we answer all three rather easily.

00:07:46.000 Problem is, is that in the modern secular environment, number one and number three, they say, that is far too judgy.

00:07:54.000 You're not allowed to talk about it.

00:07:56.000 Now, my life's work is mostly in the second question, not the third.

00:08:02.000 I talk about the third a lot.

00:08:04.000 I'm bringing people to Jesus.

00:08:05.000 By the way, just this morning, you know, we had over 25 students give their life to the Lord during the worship and praise concert this morning.

00:08:10.000 It's amazing.

00:08:11.000 25 students went straight to the altar call.

00:08:14.000 Isn't that amazing?

00:08:16.000 So we do plenty of that.

00:08:17.000 But the majority of my life's work is actually the purpose question.

00:08:21.000 Why are you here?

00:08:22.000 What do we do?

00:08:23.000 And why do we do it?

00:08:25.000 Now, part of the problem is that far too often, and this is a good faith critique, modern evangelicalism spends way too much time on the third question.

00:08:35.000 Where am I going?

00:08:36.000 That's important.

00:08:37.000 But if you're only heaven focused and not earth focused, then you're actually not fulfilling what Jesus told us to do.

00:08:45.000 Now, separately, if you're only earth-focused and not heaven-focused, that is not at all what Jesus wants us to do because his kingdom is not of this world.

00:08:54.000 This is one of the reasons why we as evangelicals have struggled to build institutions that last.

00:09:00.000 It's why that Catholics have more primary schools.

00:09:03.000 It's why that, you know, and I'm, you know, I have a soft spot for Catholics, but I'm not Catholic, more K through 12 education, is Catholic theology talks a lot more about number two, where in the evangelical world, they'll talk more about number three.

00:09:17.000 And this, you know, especially now when things get kind of crazy in the news cycle, especially in the Middle East, number three becomes almost the only thing that is talked about, right?

00:09:25.000 Things are not falling apart.

00:09:26.000 They're falling into place.

00:09:27.000 Jesus is coming back next Thursday, right?

00:09:30.000 Again, I'm not doing eschatology here.

00:09:32.000 I'm not a pastor or a theologian.

00:09:34.000 I encourage you guys to find people that know what they're talking about.

00:09:36.000 I'm not pre-trib.

00:09:37.000 I'm not post-trib.

00:09:38.000 I'm pan-trib.

00:09:39.000 It's all going to pan out.

00:09:40.000 I am.

00:09:41.000 If I offended you with that, my mission is in the second question, not the third question, okay?

00:09:46.000 I'm going to be on the welcoming committee, not the planning committee.

00:09:49.000 I am here to love God, love people, know Jesus, and to make him known.

00:09:52.000 That is my life's work.

00:09:53.000 And so, but then it comes into education.

00:09:58.000 And I think unintentionally in the modern Christian world that we kind of forsaken education because we are so heaven-focused.

00:10:08.000 We should want to build educational institutions, educational movements that last and that are durable, that can go generation to generation, that can live longer to you.

00:10:19.000 And if we, and if Jesus comes sooner, then praise the Lord, we were still doing righteous work in anticipation of his return.

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00:11:33.000 And so, the second question, the first one is very important, but that's one of the easier answered ones.

00:11:39.000 But the second one, I find, is where all of a sudden so many Christians fail to then give young Christians action items of what to do. 0.72

00:11:50.000 And I find this all the time with our Turning Point USA students.

00:11:53.000 And they say, Charlie, at my local church, my local school, I was raised in, they will talk about the afterlife and bringing people to heaven, but they don't talk about family formation.

00:12:03.000 They don't talk about fighting for the unborn.

00:12:05.000 They don't talk about contesting for your nation or for standing up against evil.

00:12:11.000 You see, I'm of the belief, and everyone has their calling, that we as Christians have not done a good enough job on why are we here.

00:12:20.000 We've not done a good enough job on that the last 40 years.

00:12:23.000 In fact, we don't even have the same answer.

00:12:26.000 If you talk to some more liberal branches of Christianity, they say we are here to do social justice.

00:12:33.000 They say that we are here to try to iron out the iniquities or to try to push forward of egalitarianism or to try to end racism or what ends up happening.

00:12:44.000 And this is why wokeism has infiltrated the church and why woke is infiltrated Christian education.

00:12:50.000 It's because while the conservatives are heaven-focused, the liberals in Christianity are earth-focused.

00:13:00.000 So we're like, oh, yeah, yeah, you're taking over my school.

00:13:02.000 No, no, no, I'm so focused on what's coming next.

00:13:04.000 When all of a sudden we look around at some of our once great Christian colleges one by one have become liberal.

00:13:09.000 And you know what I'm talking about, right?

00:13:12.000 It's because we've kind of forsaken the immediate because we're so focused on what is coming next.

00:13:17.000 And we should be.

00:13:18.000 Everything, of course, eventually should be heaven-focused.

00:13:20.000 That is the worldview that we should view.

00:13:23.000 But God does not want us to run to the hills and hide from society until Jesus returns.

00:13:29.000 That is not Scriptural, that is not biblical.

00:13:32.000 He wants to be salt and light.

00:13:33.000 Salt and light change things in the environment that they come in contact with.

00:13:37.000 And so the reason why wokeism has infiltrated is that branch of theology or lack thereof is we have to do immediate action on this earth because social justice and social change is the most important thing.

00:13:50.000 And they go even as far as to trying to undermine biblical inerrancy, as you can see.

00:13:54.000 And they're like, oh, Jesus was more kind of like a political activist or a social teacher than he was the savior of the world.

00:14:00.000 So what does this all mean for us?

00:14:02.000 This is where education comes in, because education impacts all three parts of this, which is you must unabashedly reject when people put forward this modern lie of values neutral education.

00:14:16.000 But secondly, you must, as a Christian educator, do not be afraid to talk about the nation, to talk about America, and to talk about liberty, talk about freedom.

00:14:29.000 And this is what sometimes I'm so disappointed in.

00:14:33.000 Is that so many good Christian kids went through the whole cycle of Christian education and they have no idea how precious this country is or what a constitutional republic is or what our history is.

00:14:46.000 And so then what ends up happening is far too many of them will then fall prey to liberalism once they kind of go and enter into the world.

00:14:55.000 Or they kind of have a, let's just say, a national agnostic Christianity.

00:15:00.000 Not that interested.

00:15:02.000 It's not for me.

00:15:03.000 And so this is where turning point education comes in and it's so critically important, which is that we are Jesus focused and then second, liberty focused, America focused, citizen focused, because God calls us to care about our nation.

00:15:18.000 And that combination, I'll be honest, is very, very hard to find right now in the education space.

00:15:24.000 Instead, what I get is I get emails from parents on boards of Christian schools where they give a lot of money and they're told that you're not allowed to talk about, you know, CRT.

00:15:34.000 You're not allowed to talk about transgenderism.

00:15:36.000 And finally, everybody, if you don't equip your Christian youth to know why they are here and what they are fighting for, it might be when they're 20 or when they're 25 or when they're 30 and they might be living in Atlanta or Philadelphia or New York and you send them out into the world.

00:15:52.000 Are they prepared to respond to a friend or a colleague or a boss that all of a sudden says, well, yeah, why don't you go march in the BLM parade?

00:16:00.000 Are they prepared to do that?

00:16:03.000 Do they know what that is?

00:16:04.000 Do they know the rise of new paganism, of environmentalism, and the cult of anti-racism?

00:16:08.000 Do they know that these are just counterfeit gods that we saw once in the Bible that are replicating itself in the West? 0.86

00:16:14.000 And so the reason why all of a sudden we, raise your hand if you know someone that was raised in a Christian environment and became super liberal and atheistic after every hand goes up.

00:16:22.000 And of course, I know lots of them.

00:16:24.000 I'm sure if I said, how many of you know 10, 20, 30?

00:16:26.000 And it's tragic and it's sad.

00:16:27.000 There's a lot of reasons for it.

00:16:28.000 And the one that I'm trying to emphasize today, I don't know if it's the biggest or second or third, is that you have an ill-equipped, youthful Christian population that gets torpedoed by secular left-wing persuasion. 0.82

00:16:43.000 And they have no antibodies to this virus.

00:16:46.000 They have not been inoculated to the woke mind virus.

00:16:50.000 So they go out into the world and all of a sudden someone says, yeah, you know, Jesus said that we should have open borders.

00:16:56.000 And they didn't come from a Christian environment that ever talked about immigration.

00:16:59.000 And they say, you know, Jesus said it's perfectly fine for two dudes to marry.

00:17:03.000 He didn't mention homosexuality.

00:17:04.000 Not true, by the way.

00:17:05.000 Mark 7, 2, he mentioned sexual immorality, which the Greek word is pornea.

00:17:09.000 That's your fun factoid for the day that Jesus actually did mention sexual degeneracy in a negative light.

00:17:14.000 Anyway, that's secondary.

00:17:16.000 But they're not equipped for that because we don't talk the Christian view in most Christian schools.

00:17:21.000 Well, homosexuality is too controversial.

00:17:23.000 Abortion is too controversial.

00:17:25.000 We'll talk about the gospel and we'll do reading, writing, arithmetic, and they can figure it out on their own.

00:17:29.000 And then once that destabilizing, deconstructionist, postmodernist view gets hold, then all of a sudden they're like, well, if two guys can marry, is the Bible actually true?

00:17:42.000 And that is the, all those things are gateway drugs to undermine biblical inerrancy.

00:17:48.000 They're gateway drugs to undermine the authority of scripture.

00:17:51.000 They're gateway drugs.

00:17:52.000 And you can see this is the enemy.

00:17:53.000 We know how he works, right?

00:17:55.000 What are the characteristics of the enemy?

00:17:57.000 He's not everywhere.

00:17:58.000 He has to focus on certain principalities and certain cities and certain places.

00:18:01.000 He's not omnipresent.

00:18:02.000 But also, literally, his word means deceiver or prosecutor in Hebrew.

00:18:07.000 He's always trying to deceive, to undermine, to debase.

00:18:10.000 Did God really say that?

00:18:11.000 Are you sure?

00:18:12.000 Is that really what scripture says?

00:18:15.000 Constantly challenging, constantly questioning.

00:18:17.000 So then you have a youthful population that gets out there, and they're obviously tempted by everything imaginable.

00:18:22.000 That's a whole separate topic that we could talk about of how we need to talk more about sexual purity and all that. 0.79

00:18:27.000 But from the political standpoint, that's where they get hold.

00:18:30.000 And parents, I've seen this progression so often.

00:18:34.000 Parents will be like, Yeah, you know, my kid, he's really liberal, but he's still Christian.

00:18:40.000 Two years later, he ain't Christian any longer. 0.99

00:18:43.000 Because once you kind of go down that and that sequencing of deconstructionism begins, the end point is complete and total nihilism.

00:18:52.000 Once you undermine the authority of scripture and you do that via politics, so Satan is using in the Christian education, I'm talking about psychic world, I'm talking about our environment, our community, our kids, our people that we spent tons of money and energy educating.

00:19:06.000 Satan is using politics as a way to get into Christian youth to then get them to not be Christian. 0.77

00:19:15.000 All because we were told that if we talk about politics, they wouldn't be Christian.

00:19:19.000 Turns out the exact opposite was actually true.

00:19:22.000 Talks about, turns out that we don't talk about these issues, they end up getting completely destabilized.

00:19:27.000 So what is the answer?

00:19:28.000 You lean in to every controversial issue as it's age-appropriate through a biblical lens.

00:19:34.000 As it's age-appropriate.

00:19:36.000 What does the Bible say about pornography?

00:19:38.000 What does the Bible say about abortion?

00:19:39.000 What does the Bible say about immigration?

00:19:41.000 What does the Bible say about boom, boom, boom, boom?

00:19:44.000 And all of a sudden, they'll have the antibodies then.

00:19:46.000 In the back of their head, when they're 26 years old, and they're an accountant, you know, at Deloitte in Cleveland, Ohio, all of a sudden, someone says, you know, yeah, you know, Jesus never talked about homosexuality.

00:19:57.000 Actually, you know, there's a rootedness because you leaned into the controversial.

00:20:02.000 You leaned into the topical.

00:20:04.000 You leaned into the immediate.

00:20:06.000 And that's also a message for pastors, and we'll do some questions.

00:20:08.000 I know there's some pastors here.

00:20:10.000 With the pastors also who don't do this, people wonder why, you know, pastors wonder why people are leaving your church, their churches, liberal churches, and they're going to more conservative churches like Jack Hibbs and many other, you know, great people, is they want their pastor to make sense of what is happening in the world.

00:20:28.000 They, long term, they don't need the same repurposed sermon.

00:20:34.000 They say, hey, I'm confused.

00:20:36.000 Tell me what to think.

00:20:38.000 And I'll be very honest with you, it is a failure and a disservice and a tragedy when a mom goes to a pastor and has a transgender kid, which doesn't really exist, but let's just say, you know, a kid that's struggling with transgenderism or gender dysphoria. 0.96

00:20:52.000 And the pastor says, we don't really do that here.

00:20:55.000 Or even worse, the pastor says, well, we have to affirm it because Jesus loves all people.

00:21:01.000 This stuff is not going away.

00:21:03.000 Yes, we're temporarily winning the culture war, everybody, but you better believe it will roar back at some point.

00:21:08.000 And it's not going to be the secular world that will save us.

00:21:13.000 It has to be Christian youth, Christian kids, biblical principles.

00:21:17.000 And that means you have to kind of reconfigure how you view education.

00:21:20.000 I know that's why Turning Point Education is having such incredible success.

00:21:24.000 So again, the three questions: you know, how did I get here?

00:21:28.000 Why am I here?

00:21:29.000 Where am I going?

00:21:30.000 We need to spend more time in the second question.

00:21:33.000 We've done really good on the third, but interestingly, the second will actually lead to the third.

00:21:39.000 Evidenced by today: 25 kids that were here for the politics, but they stayed for Jesus.

00:21:47.000 And the consensus was always: don't talk about politics because we'll prevent people from leading to Jesus.

00:21:55.000 The law, there's the three types of law, you know, this: the moral, the civil, and the ceremonial.

00:22:00.000 Ceremonial, we can kind of study, but we don't have, it doesn't apply to us.

00:22:04.000 The moral, we should still follow.

00:22:05.000 The civil, we should consider for application in government institutions as appropriate.

00:22:10.000 But we're not bound to every civil law.

00:22:12.000 That's the three categories of the 613 laws of Moses, 613 laws of Judaism. 0.76

00:22:17.000 The law, according to Galatians 3, is a school teacher.

00:22:20.000 It is a guard.

00:22:21.000 It is a caretaker.

00:22:23.000 It is a protectorate of Jesus Christ.

00:22:25.000 The law points you to Jesus.

00:22:28.000 And especially the one part of the law That we never talk about.

00:22:30.000 You see, pastors will always say, the moral law, you know, you know, you can't follow the moral law, and that's eventually why you lead to Jesus.

00:22:37.000 That's true, but it's incomplete, right?

00:22:39.000 That's totally true, but that's an incomplete teaching.

00:22:41.000 Notice the pastors never talk about how civil law can lead you to Jesus.

00:22:45.000 It's like, hey, the Bible had a lot to say in the 613 laws of Moses about how to run your government, about borders, about boundaries, about desecration of the divine.

00:22:56.000 But we're told that we can't be political.

00:22:58.000 Everybody, I don't want you to be political.

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00:23:59.000 Let's do some questions.

00:24:00.000 She's very excited.

00:24:00.000 Thank you.

00:24:01.000 She's been jumping up the entire time.

00:24:03.000 So let's have her ask a question.

00:24:04.000 Do we have a mic runner or two?

00:24:06.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:24:06.000 And then.

00:24:07.000 Where are we at?

00:24:08.000 Thank you so much for all that you do, Charlie.

00:24:08.000 So right here.

00:24:10.000 So much respect for you.

00:24:12.000 Thank you for partnering with Patriot Academy.

00:24:14.000 We had a great biblical citizenship class at my Calvert Chapel.

00:24:17.000 Blessed by you guys providing all of that.

00:24:17.000 I'm sure.

00:24:20.000 And we're thankful that you're right about so much, but not about Amendment 4 from last year in Florida.

00:24:24.000 Oh, wait.

00:24:25.000 Did it pass?

00:24:26.000 Oh, the abortion one? 0.99

00:24:27.000 Yes.

00:24:27.000 The fight is not over.

00:24:28.000 But it didn't pass, though, right?

00:24:29.000 It did not pass.

00:24:31.000 I was not in favor of it.

00:24:32.000 No, you were not in favor, but you thought that it would.

00:24:35.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:24:35.000 Sorry, you're right.

00:24:36.000 I was wrong.

00:24:36.000 My prediction was wrong.

00:24:37.000 You're totally wrong.

00:24:38.000 I'm so glad.

00:24:39.000 And I'm so right I was wrong.

00:24:40.000 You're five.

00:24:41.000 I was so glad you were wrong.

00:24:42.000 Thank you.

00:24:42.000 I was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:24:43.000 I'm sorry.

00:24:44.000 I'm like the least pro-abortion person ever.

00:24:46.000 No, you're so right.

00:24:47.000 I know.

00:24:48.000 I was honestly, I was thankful to God I was.

00:24:51.000 Yes, Amy.

00:24:52.000 Okay.

00:24:52.000 You guys proved me wrong.

00:24:53.000 So to your point about value-neutral education, that comes in by allowing someone besides parents directed by God to make decisions and be the ones to instill those values.

00:25:04.000 Christian education takes federal and state money.

00:25:07.000 Pastor Chuck Smith always said, Where God guides, He provides.

00:25:11.000 Knowing Alex Newman and stories from other countries and states, do you personally advocate for or against government funding in the form of school vouchers that will allow and cause erosion of freedom to home and Christian education and even in your 5C schools?

00:25:26.000 It's a great question.

00:25:27.000 So I would just throw it back to you first, and I want you to, can I, can, what's your name again?

00:25:32.000 I'm sorry.

00:25:33.000 Yeah.

00:25:33.000 Karen.

00:25:34.000 Yeah, so Karen, can you just, because it's important for me to know where in the country is the best example of school choice limiting educational freedom?

00:25:44.000 It's not a trick question.

00:25:45.000 I actually want, is the mic disappear?

00:25:47.000 Yeah.

00:25:48.000 I'm thinking of Alex Newman in particular and his experience in Sweden, but also I've heard in California they make you go in and have all of your curriculum approved.

00:25:58.000 But California doesn't have school choice, right?

00:25:59.000 So where in America?

00:26:01.000 I think Arizona, no?

00:26:03.000 Oh, we have school choice, but it's the opposite.

00:26:05.000 We can say whatever we want.

00:26:06.000 I have not followed all of the legislation.

00:26:08.000 No, right, so the reason I asked the question is we have no evidence of that.

00:26:13.000 It doesn't exist.

00:26:14.000 Ooh, I'm going to have him close.

00:26:15.000 So it's important because I get that question a lot.

00:26:17.000 So I want someone to show me a state where school choice was passed and all of a sudden there was curriculum regulation or restrictions.

00:26:24.000 Now, the concern is legit.

00:26:26.000 I get that.

00:26:27.000 But we're stuck in a dilemma.

00:26:29.000 And I could just tell you about Arizona.

00:26:31.000 Arizona, the Christian schools are bigger than ever.

00:26:34.000 They're more popular than ever.

00:26:35.000 And more kids are learning about Jesus than ever because only, and I love your spirit.

00:26:40.000 I'll only push back on one thing.

00:26:41.000 It's not government money, it's taxpayer money, right?

00:26:44.000 So it's the parents' money that's now allowed to go.

00:26:47.000 And if you want to respond, you can.

00:26:48.000 But sure.

00:26:51.000 What if we had homestead exemptions where we retained our money?

00:26:55.000 Oh, I totally support that, 100%.

00:26:58.000 I think that, I mean, in the ideal world so here's your concern and your concern is valid your concern is that they're going to use school choice as a way to get into our schools so let me just tell you about arizona the state i live in we were stuck with a dilemma public sectors unions were destroying the state kids weren't getting educated and parents wanted to send their kids to christian school but they couldn't afford it they they couldn't afford the nine ten fifteen thousand bucks a year low-income hispanic 0.98

00:27:28.000 working class whites, plumbers, electricians, police officers.

00:27:31.000 So we decided to do a school choice movement.

00:27:34.000 We're like, hey, you can actually get literally 12,000 bucks.

00:27:38.000 It's now 15 that you can send to any school, private, Christian.

00:27:43.000 And what's happened as a result is not only as educational outcomes went up, but the Christian schools have flourished.

00:27:50.000 You might end up being right like you were about Amendment 4.

00:27:53.000 And I reserve the right to be proven wrong on this because I'm paranoid about government overreach, right?

00:27:59.000 The fact it's state by state level, though, gives me a little bit more confidence because there's more accountability in the states than there is in D.C. And I think we should acknowledge that, right?

00:28:07.000 That it's much easier to hold a governor and a state rep accountable than a congressman or a senator accountable.

00:28:12.000 That's at least my experience.

00:28:14.000 Maybe you disagree, especially in smaller states.

00:28:17.000 But now here comes the trick.

00:28:18.000 And here's the ultimate question.

00:28:19.000 Let's take a state like Illinois.

00:28:21.000 Anyone from Illinois?

00:28:22.000 Hutz is from Illinois.

00:28:24.000 Yes.

00:28:25.000 Would it be better or worse if kids in Chicago could send their tax dollars to a Christian school instead of a failing public school?

00:28:34.000 Probably better.

00:28:35.000 And that's the only public, that's the only school choice part that I'll weigh in on, right?

00:28:40.000 While I acknowledge that a very sinister force, and Sweden's a good example, but we're not yet Sweden, I pray. 1.00

00:28:49.000 A very sinister government force could be like, hey, if you're taking school money, you have to vaccinate your kids to a certain extent, right? 0.91

00:28:56.000 You have to teach them all this rubbish.

00:28:58.000 If and when I see that surface, you'll be my first phone call, Karen. 0.99

00:29:01.000 I'll be like, you were right.

00:29:02.000 And now I'm against all of it.

00:29:04.000 Until then, I'm in support of school choice.

00:29:06.000 Fabulous question.

00:29:06.000 I love it.

00:29:07.000 We got a question down here.

00:29:09.000 Back there.

00:29:09.000 Yes.

00:29:10.000 And I want to get to this young lady.

00:29:12.000 She's very excited.

00:29:13.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:29:13.000 All the way in the back.

00:29:14.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:29:15.000 Thank you all for welcoming homeschool families.

00:29:18.000 As a mom of three young boys that I'm homeschooling, I wanted to know if you could pick one biblical verse to kind of pray over your children every day, what would you choose?

00:29:29.000 So, it's a great question.

00:29:31.000 First of all, I like praying biblical verses over my kids that many generations have prayed before.

00:29:38.000 So, number six is the Levitical blessing, which is let the Lord keep you and let the Lord give you strength.

00:29:46.000 You know, let his countenance fall upon you, his face fall upon you.

00:29:48.000 I love that verse.

00:29:49.000 That was a Levitical blessing that's been given almost uninterrupted of generations going all the way back to the nation of Israel.

00:29:55.000 The second one that I would give, I think, is Deuteronomy 6, 3 through 5, which is called the Shema, which is hero Israel, I am God and I am one.

00:30:03.000 But the best part of that verse goes when it's like, and you will teach your children this, and you will never forget.

00:30:09.000 I mean, it is so, like, aggressive about how you'll teach your kids this.

00:30:14.000 And so, I love those two verses.

00:30:16.000 And then finally, yeah, I mean, as far as, like, I got nothing better than the Levitical blessing because it's like, have the Lord bless you, the Lord keep you, let his face shine upon you.

00:30:25.000 I think that's a beautiful thing to pray over your kids every night.

00:30:28.000 So, I think it's number six.

00:30:29.000 You can fact check me on that.

00:30:30.000 I think I'm right, right?

00:30:31.000 Right?

00:30:32.000 Number 622.

00:30:32.000 Yep.

00:30:33.000 And by the way, it's, I do not like modern Christian music.

00:30:37.000 I think most of it is, like, kind of pagan.

00:30:40.000 They actually did a great job with that song, which is called The Blessing.

00:30:44.000 I gotta be honest, it's very biblical.

00:30:46.000 They did a great job.

00:30:46.000 I'm like a big, I'm a big critic of a lot of modern Christian music because all of a sudden they're like, what's that one song?

00:30:52.000 It's, it's so heretical, this one that someone sent to me.

00:30:54.000 I can't remember the lyrics, but it was recent.

00:30:56.000 It wasn't Irresistible Grace.

00:30:58.000 It was another one where it was something about, like, God's character.

00:31:03.000 I was like, no, reckless love.

00:31:05.000 What is that?

00:31:06.000 And I, I'm sure the person who wrote it is super sweet, but if you can show me the verse that shows that God's love is reckless towards us, I will learn something.

00:31:17.000 Like, don't think that's biblical.

00:31:19.000 However, the song The Blessing is a beautiful song to pray over your kids.

00:31:23.000 They did a legitimately great job for that.

00:31:25.000 So, yes, you want to follow up?

00:31:27.000 Thank you so much.

00:31:28.000 God bless you, and I love homeschool kids.

00:31:29.000 We're homeschooling our kids.

00:31:30.000 Thank you.

00:31:31.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:31:32.000 ma'am hi charlie thank you so much for your time my name is ashlyn I am the secretary for my county, which is actually the neighboring county to Tampa of our Young Republicans chapter.

00:31:47.000 I am here at the Educator Summit today because I'm very interested in education.

00:31:53.000 As a senior in high school, the college board denied me my 504 plan accommodations during standardized testing for bright futures.

00:32:04.000 And I have never once been denied accommodations before.

00:32:09.000 I have tested to be a gifted student.

00:32:12.000 And I have gone to my legislators and they have silenced me constantly.

00:32:16.000 There's nothing we can do.

00:32:19.000 Oh, it's private.

00:32:20.000 And I know that there are other solutions.

00:32:23.000 So I was just wondering what you would say to my story and how to go, you know, more public with that.

00:32:33.000 And what is a 504 accommodation?

00:32:35.000 I'm sorry, I don't the 504 plan.

00:32:38.000 So basically, my accommodations I receive throughout school, it just explains those in depth.

00:32:45.000 And then as well as my counseling, or sorry, my counselor's packet of my test of needing accommodations.

00:32:55.000 Okay, I don't know about that.

00:32:55.000 Got it.

00:32:58.000 In fact, the trend is actually the opposite, where kids' accommodations sometimes go way above and beyond and are like sometimes outrageously accommodated, where kids need like three days to take a test.

00:33:10.000 I don't know if you've seen this phenomenon.

00:33:12.000 I have two learning disabilities.

00:33:14.000 No, I understand.

00:33:14.000 I'm not, I'm saying though, so I'm surprised to hear you say that because that is not the trend that I've heard.

00:33:20.000 It's the opposite.

00:33:21.000 So is anyone in the room able to help her?

00:33:24.000 Because I don't know.

00:33:24.000 Okay, someone in the back is raising their hand.

00:33:26.000 So if you could help her afterwards or take her aside, I wish I could answer that question.

00:33:31.000 God bless you.

00:33:32.000 You seem so sweet.

00:33:32.000 So thank you so much.

00:33:35.000 Afterwards, will someone be able to help her?

00:33:37.000 That would be great.

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00:34:56.000 Good morning, Charlie.

00:34:57.000 Thanks for hosting this event.

00:34:58.000 I too am homeschooling my kids.

00:35:00.000 And as the executive director of homeschool, I'm encouraging my entire state to do the same.

00:35:05.000 Everyone, if you can, should homeschool.

00:35:07.000 So my question for you is a two-part question.

00:35:09.000 Do you think the first part is, do you think public schools can be reformed to the point that they will ever be suitable again for Christian children?

00:35:17.000 And the second part is, if yes, what does that look like?

00:35:20.000 And if no, what replaces that?

00:35:23.000 So currently I'm very cynical on government-run schools.

00:35:27.000 And I try to use government-run school more than public school because they're not serving the public good.

00:35:32.000 These are government-run institutions.

00:35:34.000 I'm a unique case, so no one should ever use my story as like an example.

00:35:40.000 But I went to government-run school through sixth grade to 12th grade.

00:35:44.000 For me, it was a very important experience.

00:35:48.000 I'm wired differently.

00:35:49.000 I was able to strengthen my faith.

00:35:52.000 I actually became more conservative.

00:35:54.000 I enjoyed being in the intellectual minority.

00:35:57.000 I became like more pious and more committed To sexual purity, the more I was around the degeneracy, I'm different, right?

00:36:05.000 And I will say 1% of the Christian kids you deal with probably have my wiring, right? 1.00

00:36:11.000 So you should not use my test case because most will kind of just fall into it.

00:36:16.000 And that's not me being braggadocious.

00:36:19.000 I think you could all agree, right?

00:36:20.000 That's a unique case.

00:36:23.000 Even when I went to high school, it was a mess.

00:36:26.000 10 years later, it is just unrecognizable.

00:36:31.000 The top excuses that I get from parents, the biggest excuse as to why they send their kid to public school is cost.

00:36:37.000 It's number one.

00:36:38.000 That's why I'm the school choice advocate for my previous one, right?

00:36:42.000 And I get it.

00:36:42.000 And some people in this audience will understandably say, figure it out what could be more important than your kids.

00:36:48.000 Figure it out financially.

00:36:50.000 Yes, but the economy right now is so disordered and President Trump, I think, is figuring it out and we're going to have a better economy.

00:36:56.000 Things are so expensive that people are in a lot of debt that an extra $10,000 a year could literally break an entire family and bring them to bankruptcy.

00:37:03.000 So I think we should have compassion towards that.

00:37:06.000 That's why I think in Arizona the school choice things work, especially for working class people.

00:37:10.000 So like the MAGA faithful, the muscular class, the construction guys that are working $65,000 a year, they're like, they could send their kid to a world-class school in Arizona and they're loving it.

00:37:18.000 It's like, it's a total game changer. 0.98

00:37:20.000 The second, though, is just the dumbest, which is community. 0.99

00:37:23.000 Like, oh, it's just a better school, you know, to go hang around people. 0.99

00:37:27.000 Like, okay, that's, yeah, go send them to Sodom. 1.00

00:37:30.000 And that's really great.

00:37:32.000 So, and the third is understandable.

00:37:35.000 And I think we've done a better job through laws of accommodating this, which is just sports.

00:37:40.000 That's the third.

00:37:41.000 It's like, I send my kid to public schools because, you know, my kid is going to be LeBron James, and he obviously needs to, you know, play basketball at the local public school.

00:37:48.000 And if not, everything's going to be terrible.

00:37:51.000 Homeschoolers, I think, are afforded the right in all 50 states to compete in athletics equally as kids that are enrolled in the public schools.

00:37:56.000 You can correct me if I'm wrong.

00:37:57.000 I think it's all 50 states.

00:37:58.000 And Thibaut was the one that really helped make that happen here in Florida.

00:38:02.000 I think.

00:38:03.000 I know he was a big champion of that because he was homeschooled and he would just go play for the football team and then kind of go leave afterwards. 0.96

00:38:08.000 So the community one is also silly.

00:38:11.000 Homeschool kids get plenty of community.

00:38:13.000 And by the way, I also just, are you raising kids or are you raising adults?

00:38:17.000 Shouldn't you want your kid to be around adults more than kids?

00:38:19.000 And the more they're around adults, the more mature they are, the better their language is, the better their vocabulary is.

00:38:24.000 And then finally, the other one is cost.

00:38:25.000 We got to figure that out.

00:38:26.000 That is a major issue.

00:38:27.000 But no, to answer your question directly, I don't want to be overly cynical.

00:38:31.000 I do not think the public schools are going to be reformed anytime soon.

00:38:34.000 Which is why I think you should leave them and educate your own kids.

00:38:34.000 I do not.

00:38:36.000 Charlie, we have an Illinois question.

00:38:38.000 Mark, go Cubs.

00:38:39.000 Hello, Mark from Chicago.

00:38:42.000 Is there any hope for Illinois?

00:38:47.000 Jesus will return eventually.

00:38:48.000 So that is the best hope for Illinois.

00:38:52.000 Look, I don't do hopium where I give hope and opium and make you guys feel good, and it's all a bunch of BS.

00:38:58.000 Illinois' in a tough spot.

00:38:59.000 It's awful.

00:39:01.000 I grew up there.

00:39:02.000 I love Illinois.

00:39:03.000 It's a phenomenal place to be from.

00:39:03.000 I love the suburbs.

00:39:06.000 And the collar counties have flipped to be all Democrat, as you know.

00:39:11.000 And the Collar Counties used to be the remnant of the entire state becoming Democrat.

00:39:17.000 And now you have parts of McHenry that are very Democrat.

00:39:20.000 All of Lake is Democrat.

00:39:22.000 The out exurbs of Cook are Democrat.

00:39:25.000 DuPage County is now Democrat.

00:39:27.000 That used to be a Republican stronghold.

00:39:29.000 Will County is increasingly Democrat.

00:39:32.000 So you look at all the collars, and I'm not optimistic.

00:39:35.000 I'm not.

00:39:36.000 So, and look, everyone, you should fight for where you are and where you feel called.

00:39:41.000 But I could tell you that if another 10,000 families moved from Illinois to Arizona, we would own that state for 20 years.

00:39:49.000 I mean, so you have to think to yourself, like, okay, what is the best way to live?

00:39:54.000 Everyone's called in a different environment, but I could tell you, as someone who loves Arizona and lives there, my goodness, I didn't know you could see the sun in the month of February.

00:40:02.000 It was this incredible thing.

00:40:03.000 And you're a lot happier when you could see the sun in the month of February, let me tell you.

00:40:08.000 My Floridians agree.

00:40:09.000 Thank you, Mark.

00:40:10.000 You're great.

00:40:11.000 Yes.

00:40:12.000 Hey, Charlie, thank you for all of this today.

00:40:14.000 Super grateful.

00:40:15.000 So my name is Ryan Letario.

00:40:16.000 I'm with Made Makers Christian Dart and Design Education for K through 12 homeschool and private school children and families.

00:40:23.000 And so my assumption is that art and design narrative is pervasive.

00:40:28.000 It's arresting the affections of our Children.

00:40:30.000 And so while we're being educated, our children are often being stolen away by forms that pervade, that function as glue, that arrest the affections of our children.

00:40:42.000 I was a university professor and I saw it over and over again.

00:40:42.000 They go up.

00:40:45.000 Even with good schooling and good teaching, they still were shaped by the images they were seeing.

00:40:49.000 So I also think it's not neutral.

00:40:52.000 And as you said, a lot of Christian music is pagan.

00:40:54.000 A lot of Christian stuff seems to be deficient. 0.96

00:40:58.000 And so I'm just wondering if you have any thoughts about that in the vision that you have for how we see society reconstructed, rebuilt, culture go forward in a way that honors Christ.

00:41:07.000 How do you see art and design, narrative, film playing play?

00:41:10.000 That's a phenomenal question.

00:41:13.000 So this is one thing I think that the Catholics are getting right and why Gen Z is flocking to the Catholic Church in big numbers.

00:41:20.000 And again, you should seek to understand this.

00:41:23.000 I'm sure we have some Catholics in the audience.

00:41:25.000 Is that they want to go to a beautiful church.

00:41:30.000 They don't want to go to something that looks like a Lowe's or a Home Depot.

00:41:35.000 I don't mean that as a criticism.

00:41:36.000 This is what they tell me.

00:41:38.000 They say there's beautiful art, it points up, it feels holier, and this is a very aesthetic generation.

00:41:46.000 Aesthetic-driven matters.

00:41:48.000 And so for them, they walk into a Catholic church and they're like, they feel as if there's something to ponder, something to understand.

00:41:57.000 And again, I say I'm not a Catholic, and my wife was baptized Catholic, but we're obviously evangelical.

00:42:04.000 But I think far too often we in the evangelical world, whatever that means, we have no emphasis on aesthetics whatsoever or on visuals or on art.

00:42:15.000 And I think that's a mistake, actually.

00:42:17.000 I think it's a big mistake because God designed us with five senses, including in a soul.

00:42:24.000 And so Christian music and Christian art, it used to be the best stuff of the West.

00:42:29.000 Mozart wrote all of his music to glorify God.

00:42:32.000 It's the first thing he would write on every single composition.

00:42:35.000 From Bach to Haydn, I mean, the best art that has come out of the West was all in the pursuit and the glory of God.

00:42:41.000 I do see this starting to change.

00:42:43.000 I think there's more Christian movies that are becoming more exciting and that are becoming easier to watch because some of the Christian movies, as you guys know, the last 10 or 20 years are very noble attempts, but they don't always entertain.

00:42:58.000 Let's put it that way.

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00:43:57.000 So I'm not an artist.

00:43:59.000 I'm a lot of other things.

00:44:00.000 I'm definitely not an artist.

00:44:01.000 I can't.

00:44:01.000 I can barely draw a smiley face.

00:44:04.000 But I love looking at art.

00:44:06.000 I love being around beautiful things.

00:44:07.000 And I also, I think we, whatever that is, whatever I just told you, if you want to understand what Gen Z wants, they want something where all of a sudden they can feel as if they've come in visual and aesthetic contact with something that lifts them up from a broken and degenerative world. 0.73

00:44:26.000 Everything else is bringing them down, and they want an all-encompassing experience.

00:44:32.000 You think about it, the Catholic Church, you're getting almost all five senses hit, right? 0.92

00:44:37.000 You're touching something, you're kneeling, you know, touch the Eucharist, you're smelling, they do incense, right?

00:44:43.000 Obviously, you're seeing something and you're hearing something.

00:44:46.000 You get almost all five senses hit.

00:44:49.000 And then, of course, you're tasting something with taking the Holy Communion, which, by the way, why we as evangelicals don't take communion so seriously, I don't know what happened with that.

00:45:00.000 Am I like crazy to say that?

00:45:00.000 Am I wrong?

00:45:02.000 Like, why we do communion three times a year when Jesus obviously took it seriously?

00:45:06.000 I think that's a mistake.

00:45:07.000 I think we should take communion more seriously.

00:45:09.000 Anyway, that's just me.

00:45:12.000 I know that might sound heretical or whatever, but I think that it's important.

00:45:16.000 So, what I'm getting at, though, you want to know why so many young people are drawn to the Catholic Church.

00:45:20.000 They're getting all five senses, where in the rest of the world, they get none and everything brings them down.

00:45:24.000 So, there's something to that, and I think it's worthy of pondering and worthy of thinking about.

00:45:30.000 Yes, sir.

00:45:31.000 Thanks, Kim, for being here, Charlie.

00:45:33.000 I really appreciate your work and your visionary leadership.

00:45:35.000 My wife and I were private or public urban educated for many years in Kansas City.

00:45:40.000 Really saw the decay of academic rigor and this injection of woke ideology, just almost doing double harm to our students.

00:45:49.000 And the Lord's put it in our heart to start our urban, private, classical Christian school in Kansas City.

00:45:55.000 We have bold ambitions for it.

00:45:57.000 We are serving a demographic who is predominantly single mothers.

00:46:01.000 The fatherless rate is through the roof.

00:46:04.000 And so, for us, we don't have the luxury of having kind of the partnership to homeschool them, but we expect to have a serious role in discipling them to raise and equip their children or be godly young people.

00:46:13.000 We want to create revival and restore brokenness in our communities, and we think the family unit is at the core of that.

00:46:20.000 For us, as we navigate that, the tension we're seeing is obviously just first and foremost, the cultural capture of the church and how just the idea of what God's design looks like in our communities is completely distorted.

00:46:31.000 And so, we're trying to engage in truth and love with community members to help reset and come back to that while also not coming off as pious or hateful or not loving and gracious.

00:46:43.000 We're already discerning people who are trying to become part of our school who we realize don't align with us on these issues.

00:46:50.000 But we also know that there's a great need and a lot of desire for families to participate in being a part of our school.

00:46:55.000 And we're trying to slowly bring them along and help them adopt this truly conservative and biblical worldview, which we know is going to help our community.

00:47:02.000 And so, all of that to say, what is your biggest advice for us as school leaders, my wife and I, who are trying to create almost reset in our communities to restore these conservative biblical principles when we know there's so much resistance, and we're not scared of that in the fact that we know we have God behind us, but what approaches can we take to help people not see us as being political, even though we are and that we're fighting on the front lines of biblical conservatism, which obviously leans one way.

00:47:31.000 We don't want to get distorted and confused by that, but we also want to speak truth in a way that actually brings our community in a way that reflects God's glory more.

00:47:40.000 Yeah, I don't have a full answer.

00:47:42.000 First thing is, you have to be a good example.

00:47:44.000 They have to see in your marriage and with you what you are fighting for.

00:47:49.000 The greatest, the biggest ender of your advocacy in a community that doesn't believe in you is hypocrisy.

00:47:58.000 If you want to try to win over a community that doesn't agree with you and they see that you actually don't even are living what you're telling them, that thing is not going to have any sort of momentum. 0.92

00:48:08.000 Secondly, if I were you, I would focus on black men.

00:48:12.000 I think black men are a hidden, forgotten portion of American society that have been just so downtrodden, that have been, and I don't even mean racially, I just mean culturally and economically.

00:48:29.000 One of the greatest surprises for me is how many young black men stop me and that are fans of what I do.

00:48:37.000 And they love it.

00:48:38.000 And it's because it's not a racial thing to have a return to masculinity.

00:48:41.000 So, for whatever it's worth, I think if I were you, I would have a heavy emphasis on bringing masculinity back to the black community. 0.98

00:48:47.000 That would be my best piece of advice.

00:48:49.000 Last question, right, Hutz?

00:48:50.000 Yes, yes, Charlie.

00:48:51.000 This is a question.

00:48:52.000 Oh, he's my man.

00:48:53.000 David Goodwin, one of our excellent speakers.

00:48:55.000 David is incredible.

00:48:56.000 Last couple of days.

00:48:57.000 Great friend.

00:48:58.000 Simple question, Charlie.

00:49:00.000 Why is classical one of your five C's?

00:49:02.000 Oh, well, classical education, first of all, all the founders were educated classically.

00:49:07.000 And classical points towards an absolute truth.

00:49:12.000 It is not a buffet line of bad ideas.

00:49:15.000 It points towards something.

00:49:17.000 It believes that there is truth in what is ancient, truth in what is everlasting, and it's not piled on top of this industrial, modern style of education.

00:49:29.000 I'm sure the great David Goodwin talked about this previously, but our model of education is Prussian, it is German, it is industrial, where we are not actually meant to be educated like that. 0.94

00:49:42.000 It is not about getting skills, it's about developing character.

00:49:44.000 So I'll just close with this, guys.

00:49:46.000 Thank you for praying for me and praying for us.

00:49:48.000 We're under constant attack, and so it means a lot.

00:49:53.000 We're traveling the country constantly.

00:49:54.000 We're doing hundreds of podcasts, hundreds of hours on campus.

00:49:58.000 So just keep praying for us and get involved with Turning Point Education if you see fit.

00:50:03.000 And we believe what we're doing here is really going to make a huge difference.

00:50:07.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:50:08.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:50:10.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 10, 2025

Teaching Your Kids to Be In The World, Not Of It — My Speech at TP Academy's Educators' Summit

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