Steve Smotherman's conversation with Pastor Charlie Kirk at Legacy Church in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Steve and Charlie talk about what it's like to be a conservative youth pastor on college campuses and how he's helped build one of the most powerful youth organizations in the country, Turning Point USA.
00:00:40.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:49.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:43.000I didn't think the whole thing was hilarious.
00:02:44.000By the way, we as conservatives, we can take a joke unlike the left.
00:02:48.000They're so serious with themselves all the time.
00:02:50.000And I got to tell you, we actually could play some of the clips here.
00:02:54.000Before I play some of the clips here, I just want to say this is just a testament.
00:02:58.000to how powerful and how viral and influential what Turning Point USA has been able to do on campuses across the country.
00:03:06.000And if they're not making fun of you, you'rere not making a difference.
00:03:12.000And I'll tell you, so they, I could tell you, one of the things I'm probably most proud of of my entire life is that on South Park, I guess I have been able to get them to make a pretty good argument against abortion on South Park thanks to my videos.
00:03:29.000So not only that, we'll play another video of them quoting the Bible on South Park.
00:04:10.000Science confirms life begins at conception.
00:04:19.000By the way, the little sip of the water for anyone that have seen our videos, that is as good as it gets.
00:04:24.000And so, now this next one's a little bit longer.
00:04:26.000If you have kids here, it's a little bit more, I don't want to say it's R-rated, but it's definitely PG 13.
00:04:32.000But I think that one of the underrated wins of the South Park satire is that young men are up late watching videos of online political debate better than doing what they might otherwise be doing.
00:04:45.000And they're kind of satirizing it in this.
00:04:46.000But if you listen carefully, I did not have it on my bingo card in the year of our Lord 2025 that Jeremiah 15 would be said on South Park.
00:06:48.000And quoting Scripture, pro life argument, and again, as we like to say at Turning Point USA and all of our work, we are living in their feeds, rent free, their social media feeds, and it's a major.
00:07:03.000win and huge cultural victory for sure.
00:07:06.000Well, Charlie, let's get into some of the things that's happening in our country that are big, big, big things.
00:09:09.000We are a country of laws, and we need to understand that the law-abiding immigrants in this country should not be penalized for those that try to come from everywhere around the world.
00:09:19.000And this is not just a Central or South American issue.
00:09:22.000Over 130 countries from around the world are represented of people that were coming across the southern border a year ago.
00:09:28.000So the border is completely secure, which is amazing.
00:09:30.000And now President Donald Trump is going forward in the biggest deportation effort in American history.
00:09:36.000And some people say, oh, I don't know if I like that.
00:09:38.000Either we're a nation of laws or we're not a nation of laws.
00:09:41.000What other law should we make an excuse for?
00:09:59.000And a nation must fundamentally have something in common.
00:10:03.000And if you come here, and most importantly of the entire conversation, if you come here and you don't assimilate, and this is the biblical component here that we need to talk about, immigration without assimilation is anate to the United States of America.
00:10:25.000This is the place that you are willing to bleed for, that die for.
00:10:27.000This is the place that is your new homeland.
00:10:32.000And the difference that I found so often is that we have always said to people that have come to this country the last couple decades, you're allowed to come with all of these rights and all of these privileges and all of these benefits, but no expectations.
00:10:46.000We need to have expectations for the people that come to the United States of America.
00:10:50.000The first expectation, follow the rules of the land when you come here.
00:10:55.000And Steve, I want you to give your example because we are talking about this backstage because some people try to misuse biblical scripture to justify open borders.
00:11:06.000Just so we are clear, the idea of borders comes from scripture.
00:11:10.000The idea of boundaries and barriers comes from the Bible.
00:11:13.000But most importantly, whenever the Bible talked about immigration, it talked about assimilation to the laws and the customs and the traditions of the nation of Israel.
00:11:25.000We are a very welcoming and generous nation, but we should not put up with people that come to the United States, especially the They want to bring third world ideas into our nation and our country.
00:11:41.000And by the way, this is a color blind idea.
00:11:44.000If you are out here and you're Hispanic or if you're white, all of us together, this transcends skin color.
00:11:50.000This is not about red, this is not about black, this is not about white, this is not about Asian.
00:11:54.000It's about red, white, and blue being the ultimate connective tissue of the United States of America.
00:12:01.000Steve, I want to reiterate, though, the biblical side of this because some people will say, well, the Bible tells us that we must open up our borders to all people at all times.
00:12:13.000But most importantly, in the Book of Deuteronomy, it says, Be careful who you allow into your nation, because who you allow into your nation can one day become your masters.
00:12:22.000Here's a verse that I actually had, I was looking at earlier that I want to read.
00:12:25.000from the book of numbers, which is a phenomenal book.
00:12:28.000The real title of the book of numbers is In the Wilderness, but For the assembly, there shall be one statute.
00:12:37.000This is talk about immigration for you.
00:12:38.000And for the stranger who comes into your nation, a statute forever throughout your generations.
00:12:44.000You and the sojourner, which means the person that came to your nation, shall be alike before the Lord.
00:12:50.000This should be, every time you talk about immigration, you should say, one law and one rule shall be for you and for the stranger who sojourners with you.
00:13:02.000We have one law equally applicable to all Americans, regardless of where you come from or regardless of the story that you tell.
00:13:10.000And you think about it, the legal immigrants that have come here, you say, wait a second, why can this person come with a DUI on their record?
00:13:19.000They could start carjacking, cut in lines, steal a social security number when if I did one thing wrong that I came here legally, I would be deported.
00:13:26.000And when you say it's not fair, you're right.
00:13:28.000It wasn't fair under Joe Biden, but fairness is coming back to our immigration system thanks to Donald Trump.
00:13:37.000You know, Charlie, biblically, people say those things and it just amazes me where they get it from.
00:13:42.000But when Rahab, the prostitute, saved the spies, helped them get out, they said they would save her and her family, whoever was in her home at the time.
00:13:50.000And when she was taken, when they were, when they overtook Jericho and she was taken out, she wasn't even allowed in their camp.
00:13:56.000She had to stay outside the camp until she was assimilated as a Jew.
00:14:01.000And what people miss is that God set this up.
00:14:04.000Folks, if we're in a war, I don't want someone next to me that I don't know that's going to help.
00:14:53.000And we are very welcoming, but we will not tolerate you come here, wave a foreign flag of any origin, and then act as if that is the American thing to do.
00:15:04.000Our ancestors of all different skin colors and all different backgrounds that built America, they forgot their foreign flag and they pledged allegiance to a singular creed, the United States of America.
00:15:16.000And if that offends you, then we're in the middle of the most important debate in America, which is that if you do not assimilate in the national project, you don't have a nation.
00:16:32.000But if you guys say no, you don't feel safe allowing your kids to play out at night in your home city, then your leaders have failed you and they should all be fired regardless of their political affiliation.
00:16:49.000Because a very simple part of being an American should be that you feel at home in your community.
00:16:57.000I mean, the joke that someone said to me recently is like, yeah, I have to shower with my pistol because I don't know what's going to come to the front door.
00:17:24.000It's an indictment of what your leaders have allowed to happen to you.
00:17:28.000And whether it be the widespread homelessness, the open air drug addiction, or the easy on crime policies, now that we have a secure southern border, I think we could start to finally get New Mexico to back where it was 30 or 40 years ago when it comes to crime.
00:17:44.000But I just, I hesitate because if the young ladies in this room don't feel safe walking the streets of downtown Albuquerque, then there's something.
00:18:16.000And you know one thing that Japan has in common?
00:18:22.000And now we have decided to embark on a bigger and broader project where we bring a lot of different people here.
00:18:28.000But the failure to assimilate to, hey, here in America, you're not able just to go, you know, assault a woman at 1 a.m. or you're not able to just steal a car.
00:18:40.000Crime is an extension of what you allow.
00:18:43.000And I've seen this now multiply all across the country where people say, well, we must have sympathy for the criminal.
00:18:50.000How about sympathy for the victim that just had their car broken into?
00:18:55.000And so crime has quickly become one of my top political issues, and it's tied a little bit into the immigration issue, without a doubt.
00:19:03.000But in this state in particular, I believe there's a once silent, increasingly vocal majority in this state that is sick of the lies, the deceit, the corruption, the lack of safety that your leaders have exhibited.
00:19:20.000And I think it's time to completely clean house in this state and allow a new generation of leaders to take hold.
00:19:27.000And you know, Charlie, we should demand that by our media too.
00:19:31.000The media doesn't say anything about her, won't.
00:19:33.000I know some of them are in here, and it's sickening that you guys let her get away with that.
00:19:37.000If it would have been a Republican, if it would have been someone that's conservative, you would have been all over it.
00:21:58.000But you guys should give yourselves a round of applause because this church stood courageously against wokeism during COVID and the years subsequent.
00:22:08.000Critical race theory, postmodernism, deconstructionism, questioning biblical inerrancy, undermining the community of the Christian project, which is the church.
00:22:19.000And I think we're doing a good job of pushing wokeism out.
00:22:22.000That can be better understood as Marxism.
00:22:25.000Wokeism is call something racist until you control it.
00:22:29.000Call something unjust until you control it.
00:22:31.000So I hope everyone understands that in the West right now there is a project that is underway.
00:23:22.000The bigger question, though, is what happens when you import tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of this foreign ideology?
00:23:29.000And out of all the different backgrounds, the one ideology that has the worst track record of assimilating with the United States of America, it's Islam.
00:23:38.000And we are right now on the precipice of having the mayor of New York City and the mayor of London both being Muslim.
00:23:45.000Now, you might say, well, how does that impact me here in Albuquerque, New Mexico?
00:23:50.000Now I don't know if you guys have a big Muslim issue or not here in New Mexico.
00:23:58.000If our greatest, I used to say greatest, if our biggest city is about to fall to an Islamic mayor, we should take a step back 24 years after 9-11 and we should ask ourselves the question, why did we send all of these hundreds of thousands of young men and women to go fight in Iraq and Afghanistan just to have that ideology come to the biggest city in the United States of America, New York City.
00:24:25.000And so we need to take, what does, and how does that impact all of you here in New Mexico?
00:24:31.000Again, you're a little bit removed from it.
00:24:55.000Mass production of new babies that are brought in via mass immigration.
00:25:01.000You might say, oh, Charlie, you're just exaggerating.
00:25:04.000The mayor of Minneapolis is about to be a Muslim.
00:25:07.000So you're about to have Minneapolis and you're about to have New York City.
00:25:10.000Do you think Elon Omar has assimilated the United States of America or Rashida Talib or Zoran Mamdani?
00:25:16.000Again, if we are part of the United States of America, we should care about when our biggest city is about to fall to this kind of ideology.
00:25:24.000And Islam is not compatible with Western civilization.
00:25:28.000Islam is at odds with all the freedoms that we enjoy.
00:25:32.000They do not believe in any separation between mosque and state.
00:25:35.000They do not believe in freedom of speech or freedom of expression.
00:25:38.000They do not believe in the freedom to criticize the government, the practices that we enjoy so great here in the United States of America.
00:25:44.000And here's the one thing that's the kicker.
00:25:46.000You have this axis, again, the red-green axis, this Marxism-Mohammedan axis.
00:26:22.000But their hatred and their venom to want to suffocate the United States is what unifies them.
00:26:30.000So the first thing that needs to happen is you need more pastors like Steve Smotherman that are willing to speak out very plainly about the spiritual implications.
00:26:42.000Now, a lot of people are talking about Israel, and I'm sure we'll get a question or two on Israel.
00:26:47.000But you know what I wish we spent as much time talking about Israel?
00:26:50.000We should talk about the amount of Islamo-fascism growing in the United States of America.
00:26:55.000All those issues to properly understand them, you must understand Islam.
00:27:00.000And Islam is growing and multiplying in the West.
00:27:04.000Has anyone had the displeasure or pleasure to go to London recently?
00:27:15.000And as London became more secular and as London became less religious, they imported more Middle Eastern Muslim immigrants and it was unrecognizable.
00:27:25.000So, Steve, but here's the one good piece of news that I want to mention, and then I want you to riff on Islam as well, that we are starting to see a resurgence of people going back to church.
00:27:33.000Gen Z is the most Christian generation that we have seen in 50 years.
00:27:41.000We are seeing young men give their life to Jesus.
00:27:45.000Forrest Frank is one of the most downloaded to and listened to Christian artists out there.
00:27:51.000Out of the top 100 Apple Music downloads, a disproportion of them are Christian.
00:27:58.000But the spiritual battle is coming to the West.
00:28:01.000And the enemies are, wokeism or Marxism, combining with Islamism to go after what we call the American way of life.
00:28:08.000And the American way of life is very simple.
00:28:10.000I want to be able to get married, buy a home, have kids, allow them to ride their bike till the sun goes down, send them to a good school, have a low crime neighborhood, not to have my kid be taught the lesbian, gay, transgender garbage in their school, While also while also not having them have to hear the Muslim call to prayer five times a day.
00:28:41.000We want the American way of life, which is, by the way, Christendom.
00:28:46.000Christians, our sacrifice, our toil, our vision, the outgrowth of the scriptures gave us Western civilization.
00:28:53.000And this is where I think is a great rallying cry.
00:28:56.000It doesn't matter if you're Hispanic, it doesn't matter if you're Asian, it doesn't matter if you're black or white, everybody, if you are Christian and Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, these two threats are combining forces to come after us.
00:29:08.000and it's time that the church stands and rises up against it.
00:29:11.000You know, I've been here a long time in New Mexico and I have been They'll go to these woke churches.
00:29:28.000They compartmentalize their belief and their faith and they don't even realize what they're doing.
00:29:34.000And I just wish Christians would be Christians.
00:29:37.000And Islam folks, I've lived in it, I've seen it.
00:29:42.000And I know when you watch movies or shows, they depict it as this nice, kind religion that everybody's so sweet, and we're being so unfairly treated.
00:30:30.000And then consummated the marriage when she was nine years old.
00:30:35.000We believe the greatest man ever to live.
00:30:37.000defeated death at the grave, rose three days later, and when it came to children, said it's better for you to have a millstone hung around your neck than to go after one of these children.
00:30:54.000I'm sorry, I'm team Jesus on this one.
00:31:04.000And I want to comment on the wokeism stuff too, everybody, which is that if you know of a church that has a gay pride flag outside of that church, that is not a church.
00:32:05.000So, you know, they have people serving in their church, serving with their children, serving on their stage and they don't care.
00:32:10.000And I'm telling you folks, it's it's it's it's so egregious, it's so anti-god to let that immorality stand in our pulpits and think it's okay.
00:32:42.000The three most important things that every church should talk about, and Steve talks about it every Sunday is where did I come from or how did I get here?
00:34:05.000But if you see someone that is sinning, you take them privately, say, hey, you're not living Christ-like in this way, this way, this way.
00:34:14.000Either you're engaging in homosexuality or you're fornicating or you're cohabiting.
00:34:18.000And by the way, we're not just picking on homosexuality.
00:34:22.000If you are living with somebody before you get married, you are sinning, and that is the sin of cohabitation.
00:34:27.000If you are sleeping with somebody before you get married, That is the sin of premarital sex.
00:34:32.000And even worse than even all of those, if you are sleeping with a married person or sleeping while you are married, that is the sin of adultery which in the Old Testament was punishable by death.
00:34:42.000I'm not saying it should be punishable by death, but it was a very serious sin in the Old Testament, right?
00:34:47.000But if I see somebody either, you know, they are they are not living in a standard befitting of God.
00:34:55.000By the way, we have a huge gambling problem in this country.
00:34:58.000The sports gambling stuff is getting totally out of control.
00:35:01.000And young men, I want to tell you before a football season kicks off, there's a much better use of your time than trying to do a parley bet on draft kings or fan duel.
00:35:11.000Spend that money on yourself, by improvement, on your family, or go buy Amazon stock.
00:35:45.000Jesus says, do not judge lest you not be judged.
00:35:48.000Oh, hypocrite, which by the way, is a judgment.
00:35:51.000Jesus was telling us how to judge, not not to judge.
00:35:55.000It is one of the misquoted, most misunderstood scriptures.
00:35:59.000And Instead, what we need to do is we need to talk about the perfect standard that Jesus puts up and how we fall short of it, and that we as the church need to constantly be aiming towards the holiness.
00:36:11.000Some people say, well, Charlie, you know, I just want to be happy in marriage.
00:36:14.000No, you don't want to be happy in marriage.
00:38:28.000And the reason he does this is because he's a believer.
00:38:30.000And God has elevated him supernaturally for this day.
00:38:35.000And I believe he did it through COVID in a big way because Charlie was the only person out there that had a voice that was being listened to that was talking about the evils of it.
00:38:45.000Now it's proved that it was all a hoax.
00:38:47.000And I want to, again, we're going to throw, we're going to do a volleyball of compliments back here, right?
00:38:52.000It's like a pickleball of compliments.
00:38:54.000But Steve, I stood here on this stage.
00:38:58.000I think in 2020 or 2021, and you were the only place open, and we talked about, you guys supported me.
00:39:11.000You've been donating to Turning Point, sending me emails.
00:39:13.000I want to say thank you because you guys have been just so awesome to me and at Turning Point USA and you've helped make America a better place.
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00:43:20.000And again, it's not an easy answer, but it says in Genesis 17 that God has an everlasting covenant with the people of Israel, his chosen people.
00:43:31.000We can say that that was just exaggerative writing or is that literal everlasting covenant with the people of Israel?
00:43:38.000Now, and then the question is, what Israel.
00:43:41.000I'll get kind of get into that in a second.
00:43:43.000Now, in kind of normative Protestant teaching, and Steve, you could chime in at any time, there is a spectrum all between dispensationalism or cessationism, all the way something from called remnant theology.
00:43:57.000But the most important thing in the question that we must ask is that do we believe that the land rights given to Israel seven times throughout Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy and repeated in Joshua are completely null and void.
00:44:10.000And the second part, which is important for those people that believe in replacement theology, do you believe that when it end times prophecy, when it says Israel, the physical place of Israel, that that has any connection to the actual physical place today.
00:44:24.000Now you say, where should your loyalty lie?
00:44:26.000Where I disagree with some pastors is where they say we must defend everything that the Israeli government does.
00:44:32.000You should not defend everything that the Israeli government does.
00:45:14.000What I think is happening, though, is that sometimes there's a theological argument and a geopolitical argument.
00:45:21.000The theological one, I'll let Steve kind of chime in on what the position of his church is, I think should be very, very simple.
00:45:27.000which is that the error I think replacement theology makes can be found in Romans 9, 10, or 11, where in Romans 11, Paul basically says, we are grafted in to the Old Covenant, that we are an extension to the Jewish people on top of us, that he says, no, even though the Old Covenant is weight, do not cast away the people of Israel, but instead we are a covenant on top of.
00:45:51.000Now, there is an equally as confusing verse in Hebrews 10 that sometimes gets used by replacement theology.
00:45:56.000I don't want to get into that, but it's somewhat taken out of context.
00:46:00.000But the one other aspect, I got a lot of thoughts on this.
00:46:04.000The other aspect that I think is very concerning.
00:46:07.000is that as this debate has come up, and your question was beautiful and wonderful, some people have used this debate as an excuse to pedal their Jew hate.
00:46:16.000And there is a disturbing rise online by some people of people that want to blame the Jews for why they have no money in their bank account and why their car ran out of gas and why they can't make good decisions.
00:46:29.000Everybody, if you are blaming the Jews for your decisions, you are on a bad self-destructive cycle and you should stop immediately and repent.
00:46:36.000That is evil and that is dark and that is wrong.
00:46:45.000The Israeli government has really bad abortion policies.
00:46:48.000The Israeli government has gay pride parades in downtown Tel Aviv.
00:46:52.000The Israeli government pushed the vaccine on all their people and basically turned Israel into a petri dish for a vaccine that none of us supported.
00:46:59.000I don't like the fact that the Israeli government mistakenly or unmistakably bombed a church the last couple weeks ago.
00:47:05.000With all that being said though, Israel looks like a much better country when contrasted with what I said earlier, with Islamic totalitarianism around it.
00:48:02.000Not all of them, but the country, the whole of the Jewish community, most of them have rejected Jesus as the Messiah, even though he was Jewish.
00:48:46.000And the covenant that God gave is still our God and he created you know this this nation he created people and he wants them to serve him but now we have a better covenant and that's through Jesus Christ because now God lives in us not in a temple Yeah, but go ahead.
00:49:06.000And just a couple of thoughts in closing.
00:49:07.000There are a lot of verses I want you to think about, which talks about I will bring you from scattered nations and bring you into a great nation, which very well I believe.
00:49:15.000I have a hard time not believing that it's a fulfillment of prophecy when the nation of Israel was created.
00:49:53.000My question is, from a Christian perspective, if Jesus Christ, Lord, would be the president of the U.S. tomorrow, what do you think would be his perspective of migration at the moment?
00:50:04.000First of all, I don't think Jesus would ever have to be president or would want to be president, but I mean, look, Jesus is 100% truth and 100% grace.
00:50:12.000And by the way, Jesus is God and God gave us the law.
00:50:15.000And so, again, I'm speculating on what Christ our Lord would do.
00:50:19.000But Christ our Lord would say, follow the laws as he followed the laws and the customs of the Roman Empire when, render under Caesar what was Caesar.
00:50:26.000So he would say, what do the laws of America say?
00:50:30.000And he would say, do so compassionately, do so lovingly.
00:50:33.000And if you came here illegally or you broke the law, then what does the law say you do?
00:50:37.000You'll be deported back to your country of origin.
00:51:29.000As long as you're willing to assimilate, right?
00:51:31.000And so, and you have to come here the right way.
00:51:34.000Look, and so, yeah, I mean, look, I'm speculating on what Christ our Lord would do as President of the United States.
00:51:38.000All I can say is what the Bible teaches, and the Bible is very clear when it comes to immigration, which is tall walls, doors with certain standards, assimilate, and if not, you will be removed from that nation.
00:51:50.000And I do think otherwise would be speaking for him.
00:51:53.000I do believe the Lord would say the same thing.
00:51:55.000I don't speak for him, but I do believe the Lord would say you honor the law of the land, you honor the scriptures and even in in Israel they didn't get to come in until they assimilated and became a Jew and so what what's wrong with people we want people to come in here and be an American so I hope that helps you thank you very much Hi my name is Michaela this is my third time speaking to you I've been homeschooled since last year due to the public schools
00:52:26.000being more liberal and when people ask me What school I go to?
00:52:31.000I let them know that I'm homeschooled and they always give me a bad look.
00:52:35.000And I just wanted to ask you, what do you say to those that are against homeschooling?
00:52:39.000Well, they can apply for a job from you in 10 years from now.
00:52:51.000You're going to be more polite, smarter, wiser, happier, more direction, more purpose, less corrupted, more understanding, more battle-ready, better prepared, less confused.
00:53:03.000more biblical, more grounded, more Christ-like if you are homeschool your kids if you can homeschool your kids if they're scorning you or they're saying bad things to you blessed are you who are persecuted in my name, it says James 1.5.
00:53:45.000Hello, my name is Sonia and this is my third time with you asking a question, but it's really in line with homeschool and it's what can we do as a church to support parents when you know the Department of Education hopefully they'll be able to give funds to parents but this state is awful when it comes to educating our students so what can we do if parents get the funds how can the church support the parents and is there like an alliance
00:54:15.000a parent-teacher alliance separate from the teachers unions now that can be formed to help those parents teach you know teach them or yeah i mean so at we at our organization we have turning point education at turning point usa and we create alliances of homeschool parents all across the country this state does not have high enough homeschool rates i wish it was it was higher.
00:54:40.000The homeschool rates are actually mostly in the southeastern part of the state near Roswell.
00:54:44.000That's where homeschooling is a lot more popular.
00:54:47.000In this part of the state, it's not as high as it should be.
00:54:50.000We're homeschooling our kids for a lot of different reasons.
00:54:53.000But also, honestly, I don't want to deal with not just the LGBT, I don't want to deal with the vaccine mandates, I don't want to deal with any of that stuff.
00:55:00.000And I want my kids to learn the Bible correctly, U.S. history correctly, civics, philosophy.
00:55:08.000And for anyone that thinks homeschooling is like a cutting of corners, it's harder than government-run schools.
00:55:13.000Have you seen some of this homeschool curriculum?
00:55:30.000We should make it where the husband or the breadwinner, which should be the husband in the typical biblical context, unless there's an absolute extreme circumstance, most times it works biologically and theologically better for the husband to be the breadwinner.
00:55:45.000where he can make enough money so the mom can stay home and homeschool the kids if they choose.
00:55:49.000It is a broken country where both, and it's not your fault.
00:56:01.000That's broken and that's wrong and we should try to fix it.
00:56:04.000You know, and Sonia, we host the home school convention every year.
00:56:13.000And even though we have our own Christian school, and I believe it's a whole lot better than the public school, we do support the home schoolers.
00:56:23.000If you want to make sense of the change and the chaos happening around us, you're going to need God's help.
00:56:28.000That's why Alan Jackson Ministries, a friend of mine, created the Culture and Christianity.
00:56:33.000podcast, the culture and Christianity conference, and their week-night news show, Allen Jackson Now.
00:56:40.000Millions of people also listen to Pastor Allen Jackson's powerful sermons each week.
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00:57:01.000Their mission is to help people become more fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ, which is the most important thing, giving your life to the Lord, including here on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:58:38.000I want to become a teacher in early childhood, but many programs include courses designed to train future teachers in gender-affirming practices and inclusivity, which conflicts with my beliefs, how can I mostly, most out of my...
01:00:16.000I'm actually running for governor of New Mexico.
01:00:22.000You know, our constitution along with with every constitution in this country, has origins to remedy and recourse to give us the ability to hold our elected officials accountable.
01:00:34.000So my question is, how do we get back to the origins of our state constitution in order to give we, the people, the remedy and recourse to hold our elected officials accountable for treason, evasion, violations of our rights, theft, fraud, RICO, et cetera?
01:02:21.000He says, given the current state of the economy, rising housing costs, inflation, and wages, do you think we will ever realistically be able to afford a home or a lifestyle that our parents and grandparents could achieve before us?
01:02:54.000And he said, look, the next generation it's better for them to rent than own And look at all the space that you have in a home, and it's really, there's a lot of vacant space you don't use.
01:03:06.000Like when's the last time you went to the dinner table, the dining room, and you don't need all that space, and you can have a much more efficient rental unit.
01:03:19.000But something about me feels like it's against the American way.
01:03:25.000To not have this is my piece of property, the government can't take it, a landlord can't evict me, and I will defend it with my guns if necessary.
01:04:36.000Some of these people are saying, well, when you have to own, you have property taxes and you have maintenance and you have all these other costs associated.
01:05:53.000Really, a core of our audience is young families.
01:05:55.000And it's harder than ever to get your share of the American dream.
01:05:59.000Harder than ever for you to be able to own the home.
01:06:01.000By the way, your real estate values here in the state are some of the lowest in the country, and it's still hard for you guys to get your share of the American dream.
01:06:11.000We need to have a national project where we build 10 million homes and we say to the next generation, we messed up.
01:06:20.000We locked down America, we shouldn't have done that.
01:06:22.000We put masks on you, we shouldn't have done that.
01:06:25.000We forced a vaccine, which really wasn't a vaccine, it was an mRNA and gene altering shot.
01:06:31.000Nine times on you, we shouldn't have done that.
01:06:33.000And as a way that we are sorry, we're going to make it so easy, the same way that we had the VA home loan, we should have the Gen Z home loan in the way that as long as you're not committing crimes and you're able-employed and you're doing the right stuff, you're not not just sitting around we're going to make it so that you can have an easy entrance into the owner's market we owe it to our young people to make it easier to own homes not harder because i do not want to live in a dystopian future where an entire generation rent
01:07:03.000stuff you know why when you rent stuff you don't take you don't take it as seriously when's the last time you washed a rental car you don't owning makes you a better person who here remembers owning your first piece of property And you were able to, you felt good about yourself, didn't you, right, Steve?
01:08:53.000Okay, so I would say you don't compromise on the truth.
01:08:55.000And this is going to be the hardest thing for you, man.
01:08:57.000So when you're sitting down at lunch with a homosexual or transgender person, your flesh, and it happens to all of us, will whisper, oh, just tell them it's okay.
01:09:07.000Now, you can be very careful in your language.
01:09:09.000You can love them, but loving is not approval, right?
01:09:12.000And you could be like, hey, let me just tell you what I believe.
01:09:19.000And you can even confide some of the sins that you wrestle with.
01:09:21.000and I don't know what they are, right?
01:09:22.000But we all have sins that we wrestle with, the sins of pride, the sins of self-control, whatever.
01:09:29.000It could be pornography, it could be fornication, whatever it is, we all have those.
01:09:32.000So it's not you being preachy to the homosexual.
01:09:35.000It's not you being preachy to the transgender person.
01:09:36.000But let me tell you that in what I believe, Jesus Christ wants what's best for us, and he wants to lift us out of it.
01:09:43.000And I'm not saying that you drop the homosexuality tomorrow, but I will say as a side note, What might blow their mind is that if you tell them, hey, what if I told you your identity is above your sexual behavior?
01:09:58.000What if I told you your identity is actually not what you do in a bedroom?
01:10:01.000Your identity is much more important than that.
01:10:04.000We made a mistake when we started identifying people based on the decisions they make privately in a bedroom.
01:10:09.000By the way, sinful decisions, but that's not your identity, it's your action.
01:10:32.000The most popular verse ever for God so loved the world that he gave one begotten son, that whoever believing in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
01:11:04.000She says, how can we combat the drug crisis in Albuquerque?
01:11:09.000My view on drugs is that we must have far less compassion for drug dealers and lock them up for long, long, long periods of time.
01:11:20.000Drug users, we should have compassion, but that does not mean they could do it out in the open, and that does not mean we will ever give them a needle to allow them to continue their addiction, period.
01:11:30.000Compassion is treatment, and treatment is a tapering off of the addiction you're on.
01:11:36.000The brainiacs in Santa Fe, I'm sure, are doing subsidized tapering.
01:11:41.000Here's some drugs, here's some Narcan.
01:11:54.000If you put up with a broken window, you're going to put up with a broken window you're going to put up with a drug dealer on the side of your street.
01:11:59.000Clean up your streets, no more homeless.
01:12:01.000You put you crack down on car jackings.
01:12:03.000You would be shocked at the connective tissue.
01:12:06.000How many people are car jacking in cars are also connected to the drug trade?
01:12:11.000You have no tolerance for the small crime.
01:12:12.000You'll have no tolerance for the big crime.
01:12:35.000And I would just add to that, which is that I think President Donald Trump is doing the right thing as designating the Sinaola drug cartel as a foreign terrorist organization.
01:12:47.000Every single person in this audience that calls New Mexico home has lost a friend, a family member, or a neighbor to the malevolent actions of the Sinaola drug cartel.
01:12:58.000This is not an attack on the Mexican people, many of whom are wonderful and religious and Christian.
01:13:03.000This is an attack on a foreign terrorist organization that is manufacturing fentanyl and drugs and sometimes trafficking people into our communities, and that cartel needs to be wiped off the face of the earth once and for all.
01:13:49.000I got two quick pieces of advice because I want to keep on working through the line.
01:13:52.000Know as much as you can about the country that you want to put your life on the line for study American history the more you know about America the more you're going to be willing to risk for it number two which is be a lifelong learner just be a lifelong learner those that will help you and I hope you get into the Coast Guard Academy and if you ever have a problem just get shoot me an email you will remember her right I'll remember her how many people in Albuquerque New Mexico want to go to the Coast Guard and be an FBI agent I know We have so many people.
01:14:20.000I will remember her 20 years from now.
01:14:36.000My question for you is, as a Hispanic man who voted conservative and is in a deep blue state, how should I go about turning my state red, especially, or turning our state red next year, especially with our media demonizing Republicans?
01:14:54.000I would focus on the issues they cannot defend.
01:14:57.000Men and female locker rooms, men and female sports, the trans stuff and crime.
01:15:02.000I would just constantly hit those all the time.
01:15:04.000And look, even if you don't win, you have to keep on fighting for noble causes.
01:15:08.000Even if you don't win, you show up every single next election cycle and start local win back your city council win back your school district local local local is how you take a big take a big task like the state of New Mexico yeah thank you so much You know, one of the biggest lies being sold to American people right now is that you're in control of your money, especially when it comes to crypto.
01:15:32.000But the truth, most of these so-called crypto platforms are just banks in disguise, fully capable of freezing your assets the moment some bureaucrat makes a phone call.
01:15:40.000That is not what Bitcoin was built for.
01:15:52.000No one can touch your crypto, not the IRS or not a rogue bank, not some three-letter agency that thinks it knows better than you do.
01:16:00.000This is how it was intended by the original creators of Bitcoin, peer-to-peer money, free from centralized control, free from surveillance, and free from arbitrary seizure.
01:16:09.000So if you're serious about financial sovereignty, go to bitcoin.com, set up your wallet, take back control, because if you don't hold the keys, you don't own your money.
01:16:24.000I'm a senior studying business administration.
01:16:27.000With Stephen Colbert's show now cancelled, What do you think that says about the state of late night TV today and how does the kind of humor we see from shows like South Park compare to mainstream late night hosts in terms of what really connects with audiences?
01:16:44.000If you notice, and I don't watch late shows a lot, but there was a change the last decade where hosts like Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel, I'll put Jimmy Fallon in a different category, I actually think he tries to not be political.
01:16:57.000is that they were seeking applause more from their audience than laughs.
01:17:02.000And if a comedian wants to be applauded and not have laughs, then you're nothing different than an MSNBC host at 11 p.m.
01:18:06.000You know, you know, if I could add to that, when Gerald Ford, I know it's probably you weren't born yet, but when Gerald Ford, when he stumbled off that plane, they mocked him.
01:18:16.000They said there was something wrong with them.
01:18:18.000I mean, they just obliterated this guy.
01:19:08.000If they try to take your Bible away, sue them and sue them hard.
01:19:12.000And we will call the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice, and Harmeet Dillon and the Trump administration will sue that school district, because you need to be allowed to bring the religious text that you're choosing, the Holy Bible, into the classroom.
01:19:57.000And my mission right now is to fend the Trump administration on the great stuff they're doing, get J.D. Vance elected as the next president of the United States in 2028.
01:20:10.000And if they ever run out of people, I don't even know if I would consider it.
01:22:03.000He's still in the hospital fighting a terrible neck injury.
01:22:07.000And he talked about the sanctification.
01:22:09.000Sabbath forever and I think that us not following the Sabbath is one of our greatest failures as Christians and And some people say, are we bound to it or not?
01:22:18.000It's actually not the most important question.
01:22:21.000If you're not doing it, you're missing out.
01:22:40.000I'm able to turn my phone off for one day a week.
01:22:41.000It says in the Scriptures, for six days you shall work.
01:22:44.000And on the seventh day you shall rest.
01:22:47.000And in the book of Deuteronomy, when it repeats that commandment, which, yeah, the fourth commandment, which is in the book of Deuteronomy, it's exactly the same.
01:23:01.000It's the only change when Moses is repeating it, except it says, for six days you shall work, the seventh day you shall rest, because you are no longer slaves like you were in Egypt.
01:23:10.000Only slaves work seven days, everybody.
01:23:14.000I encourage all of you to dedicate one day to Jesus.
01:23:18.000Turn off your phone, spend it with family.
01:23:21.000You are not too important to stare at all your devices for seven days.
01:23:24.000If you're feeling that you want to pour into your girlfriend, watch what happens, the magic power when both of you turn off your phones for one day.
01:24:46.000And you think, of course, but okay, so.
01:24:49.000if it was true, if I could prove to you, Christian, it was true, would you really stop having premarital sex and all those people don't want to change the way they're living, so they end up lashing out at a religion that tells them to stop doing that?
01:25:03.000And then there's also good faith objections, which is the problem of evil.
01:26:14.000Instead of blaming a fallen world and the enemy of our soul, which is the devil, they lash out at God because they have this sense or this thought that God could have stopped this or God should have done something.
01:26:27.000And then I say, we don't have all the answers.
01:27:18.000So I'm not sure if you even know this, but Native Americans are not allowed to own private property on reservations.
01:27:25.000All native land is held in federal trust.
01:27:27.000Why do I never hear you speaking up for Indigenous rights, Charlie?
01:27:31.000That's a little too accusatory, but I do speak up for the best of Native culture.
01:27:38.000You know what the first thing needs to happen?
01:27:40.000The first thing needs to happen is the obliteration of the Bureau of Indian Affairs and redo it in a way that actually represents the best interest of Native and Indigenous people.
01:27:48.000There's a huge alcoholism problem on reservations.
01:27:52.000And look, Here's the biggest problem I have is that the Native American Reservation, natives were treated terribly 150, 100 years ago.
01:28:02.000We did the worst thing we could have done.
01:28:04.000We gave them endless government benefits and they've grown addicted to the government.
01:29:55.000I was here when you were at UNM, and just thank you for coming back.
01:29:58.000My question is that earlier you said that humiliating someone was a sin, and I don't necessarily disagree, but I am curious as to how you define humiliation and what is the biblical basis for it being a sin.
01:30:13.000So I'd have to think of, so first, you could argue a couple things.
01:30:18.000You could argue you're actually stealing somebody's honor when you humiliate them, and there's no way are you loving them.
01:30:24.000I would say humiliation is when someone's face goes red.
01:31:04.000I think he seek to lovingly correct them when necessary and when proper.
01:31:07.000So anyway, I'd have to think more deeply about that, but when you're given the opportunity, like let's say Pastor Steve right now looks at someone in the audience and he knows that that person is cheating on their spouse.
01:31:18.000Is the loving thing for him to call them up on stage right now?
01:31:48.000Daughter of the King, homeschooled homeschooler.
01:31:52.000And my question for you today is since 2020 you've really encouraged a parallel economy knowing where our dollars are going that they're supporting businesses that support our ideals Would you consider reviving or starting a public consumer service similar to secondvote.com, which was a pivotal website started in 2012 after someone learned that March of Dimes was funding Planned Parenthood chapters?
01:32:20.000Unfortunately, this website was pivotal.
01:32:23.000It was shut down during the Biden administration in 2023.
01:32:27.000Would TPUSA consider helping Americans vote with their dollars?
01:32:52.000And my wife is originally from Scandinavia.
01:32:56.000We were living there for two years, and we experienced a lot of the problems We were spit on, we were accosted for not dressing a certain way, they're threatening my newborn, and that really kind of changed.
01:34:30.000I try to tell people, and it's coming here next, and people say it doesn't affect you, mass Muslim immigration will be the death of the United States of America.
01:34:38.000Best piece of advice I have for you, live in a place where that's not present.
01:34:41.000Do everything you can to fight it, to not have it come to your community.
01:34:44.000Be Christ-like in all things, but your obligation above being polite is protecting those children of yours.
01:35:05.000If you have somebody if there is a woman right now in this audience and there is a bad guy that is coming and hunting you down you're trying to tell me the bad guy is going to wait seven days so that you can get a gun to defend yourself it's unconstitutional it should be repealed period end of story i'll take one more i'll take one more that woman she waited so sweet she was so disappointed all right you're the final one Okay, I'm sorry.
01:35:34.000First of all, I'm representing the Navajo Nation and I'm asking you for help with Mr. Trump to make awareness for human trafficking.
01:35:58.000You might laugh, but do you know what immigration's custom enforcement could use for someone that knows how to take down sex trafficking and human trafficking rings?