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00:05:10.000I am saying it's going to be very difficult to prove.
00:05:12.000It wouldn't surprise me after what we've seen all these Democrats what they are willing to do and what they're capable of doing, whether we can prove it or not remains to be seen.
00:05:21.000And I think that now Sidney Powell is in a position where she should start to at least feed the American public with some of the publicly available evidence that she's comfortable with for the reason of winning the narrative war.
00:06:00.000I think that Sidney Powell is going for a massive, low-probability win.
00:06:05.000So it's probably a lower probability that Sidney Powell is able to reverse it based on what she says.
00:06:10.000But the reward would be, you know, basically the indictment of thousands of people potentially.
00:06:15.000Where the Trump campaign, I think, is looking more at singles and doubles, to use a baseball analogy of just kind of, you know, more incremental victories of signature verification, absentee ballot process stuff.
00:07:06.000Raffensperger, who is the Secretary of State, has made a sequence of really bizarre and unacceptable and inexplicable decisions where he has basically catered to the Stacey Abrams lobby when signature verification, absentee ballot requests.
00:07:19.000So here's a really good example of this.
00:07:21.000In 2016, there was like 260,000 mail-in ballots in 2016.
00:07:44.000I mean, that's an enormous scale, right?
00:07:48.000So anyone who has built any businesses, you know, if, for example, if you know, at our Turning Point USA Student Action Summit, you're speaking there.
00:07:55.000We're hosting it, you know, in Palm Beach.
00:07:58.000We're anticipating about 5,000 people.
00:08:00.000So we're ready for 5,000 people, the infrastructure, the hotel rooms.
00:08:04.000If all of a sudden, three weeks before you told me there were going to be 50,000 people, I would say, I don't have the infrastructure for this.
00:08:12.000And that's exactly what happened with Georgia and this entire mail-in ballot is they had an expectation of maybe a half a million ballots and then 1.3 million ended up being turned in.
00:08:24.000And so we have never been, we haven't been given answers of, did you verify all these signatures the same way you did in 2016?
00:08:31.000Did you make sure these people were all living in the state?
00:09:06.000So I'm glad you went that route, Charlie.
00:09:08.000And I don't want to dive too far into this rabbit hole because I want to get into Thanksgiving tyranny.
00:09:14.000And then at the end, I really want to just throw some stuff at you.
00:09:18.000And I'm really excited to throw this video clip at you.
00:09:23.000And I'm excited about it because I just brought it up in my last episode.
00:09:27.000And I would be interested for someone else to listen to it.
00:09:31.000But talking about the election and everything like that, I feel, me personally, I am at this point, I am 100% positive that voter fraud occurred.
00:09:44.000That whether you believe the Sidney Powell, you know, the Kraken, you know, as far as all that goes, that is yet to be seen.
00:09:52.000And hopefully, I hope she does prove it.
00:09:55.000But what do you do when you now have the count is 74 million plus for Donald Trump right now?
00:10:03.000What do you do, Charlie, when you have legitimately, at minimum, 74 million Americans that truly believe that this election was stolen from them?
00:10:16.000Not that Joe Biden is an illegitimate president, that he legitimately is not the president and he did not win.
00:10:24.000We are teetering on some very, very, very serious potential issues in our country because you have people, it's no longer, well, he's an illegitimate president.
00:10:35.000He didn't win the popular vote, blah, blah, blah.
00:11:19.000We have hundreds of pages here of different pieces of indicted voter fraud that, again, I have to just walk through this very meticulously.
00:11:27.000So there's first and foremost, there's voter registration fraud, right?
00:11:30.000So this is one part of voter fraud where you go to at-risk parts of the population, developmentally disabled, nursing homes, dementia units, and you register a lot of people to vote, elderly people, and then you're able to intercept the ballots or help them fill out the ballots for your own political candidate or favor.
00:11:47.000This is something that has now been revealed in Wisconsin, where a whistleblower came forth a couple of days ago by the name of Susan, where she said all 20 of her developmentally disabled clients and her patients, I should say, were forced to vote for Joe Biden.
00:12:00.000This is a practice called granny farming by the New York Times.
00:12:03.000And this is a verified article that was in the mainstream press, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.
00:12:08.000The rest of the country doesn't cover it.
00:12:10.000So that's one portion of it, which is the voter rolls.
00:12:28.000And states that have done this, like Florida, end up having the most transparent and trusted elections in the country where they're able to report quickly and people know the winner is legitimate and no one's actually questioning it.
00:12:39.000Do you notice that Joe Biden's not questioning the results in Florida?
00:12:43.000It's because in Florida, when someone dies and there's a death certificate that is submitted to the county, they're automatically removed from the voter roll.
00:13:17.000What happens in a lot of these states, again, this is just one piece of 15 parts of way voter fraud can happen, okay?
00:13:23.000Where they don't cleanse the voter rolls.
00:13:25.000And so specifically in blue states and even more specifically in urban areas, they have these bloated voter rolls of multi-decades of people that have never been cleansed, of people that are not alive, not in the state.
00:13:42.000Well, when all of a sudden you get into a vote-by-mail period and the vote-by-mail period has now really, we've entered into that era in America for the worse, and you start sending out ballots that people never requested.
00:13:53.000Well, then people that have moved, that have died, that are no longer even in the same time zone, that ballot is going to be sent to those areas, especially to college campuses, nursing homes, and shared living centers, where a lot of people are registered to vote at the same address.
00:14:08.000And so a great example that I give is someone I know who's a landlord of a piece of property in downtown Philadelphia near Temple University and Drexel University, where a lot of students live.
00:14:17.000Those campuses are basically closed right now.
00:14:20.000Those like shared housing units were getting dozens of ballots sent to that place despite no one living there all throughout the month of September.
00:14:30.000He got all the ballots and he either destroyed them or submitted them.
00:14:33.000But imagine if he wasn't a good person.
00:14:35.000Imagine, and this idea that there are not criminals in our midst that are going to try to compromise the system is so foolish, especially when you have 150 million people participating in it.
00:14:46.000So I don't want to take too much time of it.
00:14:48.000I'm happy to refer people to my podcast, but that's just one portion is the voter registration part of it, right?
00:14:53.000Then the other part of it, again, there's 15 of these buckets.
00:14:56.000The other part of it is the actual vote gathering of it, right?
00:14:59.000Which is who's actually intercepting these ballots?
00:15:15.000It's no different than Marty Bird running our elections, where you have dirty ballots that get cleaned and they put in the system and you have no idea who they are.
00:15:22.000Then there's the whole thing about the vote counting and who's actually counting the votes.
00:15:35.000All of a sudden, you start to have what really looks like a criminal network that could then influence an election by 30 or 40,000 votes or 100 or 200,000 votes.
00:15:42.000And let me say this, Graham, really quick.
00:15:44.000And again, I could go through all the other different buckets and evidence.
00:15:47.000It's just, I don't want to exhaust your viewers on this for those of you that have heard it before.
00:16:12.000You're trying to tell me that when the ultimate prize, the $4 trillion government and the best army that you heroically served in ever to exist in history, the planet is now up for grabs, that all of a sudden people are going to act perfectly and ethically.
00:16:24.000The very same people who cheat on their taxes, who launder money, who cut corners, now they're all of a sudden going to say, now I'm going to put on a badge of doing everything perfectly.
00:17:01.000But here's the other part of it: if you would have told someone in Boston in the 1960s or 70s that there were hundreds of Catholic priests molesting children, they'd say, you're a liar.
00:17:15.000If you would have told me 10 years ago, as I was an Eagle Scout in Boy Scouts of America, that 89,000 people would come forward and say they were sexually assaulted in the Boy Scouts of America, I would say there's no way, show me the evidence.
00:17:25.000We didn't know this till investigations started.
00:17:28.000If you would have told me in 2005 that Jeffrey Epstein was flying to private islands with Bill Clinton and internationally sex trafficking underage women, I'd say that doesn't make any sense.
00:17:37.000Is our paradigm of which we view things needs to be challenged sometimes because we now have multiple decades of evidence of things that we once thought were like impossible that get unraveled once we look into it.
00:17:50.000We have evidence to show that this is well worthy of a concerted, well-funded, journalistic and governmental investigation.
00:17:57.000And anyone who tries to stop you from doing that are the same people that would have been defending the Catholic Church in the 1970s or defending the Boy Scouts of America the last five years or defending Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein.
00:18:08.000Sometimes there's more to the story, and this is one of those times.
00:18:13.000Fact checkers are a big issue with this too.
00:18:15.000I've said this on the show a couple of times.
00:18:17.000Thomas Edison, if Facebook had been around when he said, you know what, I think I can make a candle last forever, he'd have been fact-checked and kicked off of Facebook.
00:18:28.000Thousands of years ago, if people would have said, you know what, I don't think we're the only planet here, they would have been fact-checked and kicked off of Facebook.
00:18:36.000You also have people like Elizabeth Warren and Klovichar, who weeks before the election were showing their concern for things like Dominion and how easy it is for fraud to happen.
00:18:46.000And then now Biden's, you know, president-elect or whatever.
00:18:49.000No, there's no issues with Dominion at all.
00:18:54.000It's just so funny how they flip-flop.
00:18:56.000Well, we'll get back to election and just this big tech tyranny that is going on because I truly believe that we are already in our, I call it our, well, I won't go that far yet.
00:19:16.000Okay, Charlie, I have already stated publicly, and I'll state it here for this episode.
00:19:21.000I plan on, even if a mandate comes down, which thankfully South Carolina has not yet, I will break the law and I will have as many people over at my house as I want to have at my house because ain't nobody going to tell me when I can and cannot see my family.
00:19:37.000I would assume, Charlie Kirk, that you are the same way.
00:19:42.000Let's talk about tyranny, literal tyranny that is happening in our country.
00:19:49.000And worse, from elected officials, a government of the people, by the people, for the people, right?
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00:21:09.000Well, yeah, everyone should disobey these orders.
00:21:12.000And if you're an at-risk population and you could possibly get compromised by the virus, then make a decision in your own, using your own liberty and make it responsibly.
00:21:22.000But for the 99% of the population that's not going to die from this thing, that's under the age of 30, that doesn't have preexisting health conditions, then it's time to disobey.
00:21:32.000And it's not just time to disobey a little bit.
00:21:36.000Where we went wrong, Graham, is a lot of different ways.
00:21:42.000One of the ways that we went wrong, and I think this is finally starting to crack, is the expert class in this country has been so phenomenally wrong about everything the last couple years that I think their legitimacy is soon going to be so damaged that people will no longer trust anything they say.
00:22:00.000We're not there yet, but we still have a fair amount of people that will trust anything that they read in the New York Times and CNN.
00:22:07.000Where we really went wrong with this, though, is that, and I don't think we're part of this.
00:22:13.000I just think that the leaders of some of these states are pandering along this way too much, is that we value safety far more than we value freedom.
00:22:22.000And that's a very dangerous sequence of choices to be, that's a very dangerous sequence of events.
00:22:29.000And so I have so many questions I'd love to ask a public health official about all this and a Republican governor.
00:22:41.000I mean, a great example of this, again, I'm going to keep on bringing up someone who I think is worthy of platforming because we can go through Whitmer and Kate Brown and Pritzker and Cuomo and Newsome.
00:23:03.000And I think Governor Ron DeSantis deserves a tremendous amount of credit because he's been under a huge amount of pressure to shut down the state of Florida again, to issue a mask mandate.
00:23:13.000And every time he'll give a similar speech, which is, look, here are the facts of the virus.
00:23:17.000If you live in a nursing home, if you live and you're over the age of 70 and you're immunocompromised, take this very seriously.
00:24:26.000Here's one of the reasons why, is it's super dark, right?
00:24:29.000It's where the sun goes down really early, and that just leads to drinking.
00:24:34.000There's direct connection to the lack of vitamin D and people that want to find some sort of chemical reprieve from that, family members being around.
00:24:40.000And also, you have a couple days to kind of shake it off, right?
00:24:43.000You got Thanksgiving, you got Black Friday, you got the weekend.
00:24:47.000So thousands of people, let me be very clear, thousands of people will get in car accidents this weekend because of alcohol, because of the mismanagement of alcohol, because of bad decisions.
00:24:58.000Now, Pennsylvania has come out and they have said we are banning alcohol for one evening during Thanksgiving.
00:25:04.000I don't know if you've seen that or not.
00:25:11.000No, no, no, but it's actually really important.
00:25:13.000At least Tom Wolf is now making my argument, which is, okay, if all you care about is people's safety and no freedom, then you might as well ban alcohol on Thanksgiving.
00:25:26.000His whole, by the way, he should make speed limits 10 miles an hour.
00:25:30.000He should say you have to bicycle, you know, and no, people should just walk at this point.
00:25:35.000I mean, if you're really worried about if we are going to now continue on this trend of what I call safetyism, which is a belief that at all costs, we must forsake liberty for safety, then you should get rid of drinking on Thanksgiving weekend because it would save hundreds of lives.
00:26:50.000Man, you know, I learned so much stuff from you, but I would like to believe that I pick up on emotional things from people.
00:26:59.000And the issue that I am seeing with Americans right now, especially conservatives, is there's a lot of people who say they believe something.
00:27:07.000There's a lot of people who say they stand for something.
00:27:11.000There's a lot of people who I think they legitimately believe that they do.
00:27:15.000But when push comes to shove, when their paychecks get threatened, their comfort gets threatened, their credibility gets threatened, or their friendships or relationships get threatened, they just bow their head and they just go and walk among the masses.
00:27:37.000And it's really starting to bother me because we need people that are willing to stand up.
00:27:43.000And we need people that are not afraid to stand that line and respectfully, even with police officers, police officers are being put in horrible positions right now to enforce things that even they know aren't constitutional.
00:27:56.000But we need Americans that are willing to stand up and say, Make us.
00:28:00.000Charlie, are you picking up the same thing that we are?
00:28:03.000Yeah, and it's not a total surprise that you'll have a bunch of people that'll talk a good game and not actually act on it.
00:28:10.000I mean, the American Revolution was vocally supported by about a third of the country, but actually was really fought by less than 1% of the country at most with the supply lines and with the actual infrastructure.
00:28:39.000It's a lot easier to all of a sudden say, oh, yeah, I'm all in on this American experiment thing, conservatism.
00:28:44.000But then it's hard to reopen your bakery.
00:28:46.000It's hard to open your gym against the orders of Phil Murphy or Gavin Newsom or J.B. Pritzker or Tony Evers or any of these governors that have decided to be mini Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalinites, right?
00:28:59.000And so the question then is, what is our role?
00:29:04.000And I will say this, that the Republican Party has plenty of problems.
00:29:10.000The one thing that I've learned about the Republican Party is that they need very specific marching orders.
00:29:17.000They need to, they'll do what they're told.
00:29:20.000And so that's not always the case, but it's on us, not on them.
00:29:23.000We need to give them the cadence to march.
00:29:25.000And a great example of this, a great example of this is when Senator Mike Braun from Indiana over the summer came out in support of BLM Incorporated.
00:29:34.000He was asked specifically on some podcast, do you support the BLM Inc. movement?
00:29:42.000So Tucker Carlson and myself were two of the most aggressive people that went after Mike Braun calling for his primary, calling for his resignation.
00:29:50.000He had never experienced a whirlwind like that.
00:29:52.000And within 48 hours, he retracted it and said, I think BLM is a Marxist deconstructionist group.
00:29:58.000He also pulled this piece of legislation to try and put forward some sort of police reform, which was total nonsense.
00:30:05.000Moral of that story is that Mike Braun did not die on that hill.
00:30:08.000He realized that with the Republican base that was angry at him and that wanted a certain amount of fulfillment of his promises to the people of Indiana, he went to the direction of I am now going to actually be rooted in common sense, not pandering of racial politics and of insurrectionist forces.
00:30:25.000The same has to be here, that if you're a governor, a Republican governor, and you're shutting down your state and issuing mask mandates, all of you will be primaried.
00:30:46.000And if you're Larry Hogan or Charlie Baker or Mike DeWine, or if you're Kim Reynolds doing these mask mandates or Doug Burnham doing these mask mandates and you try to shut down your state again, then we will not forget that and you'll have a political price to pay.
00:30:59.000Yeah, but see, Charlie, the only thing, and I agree with you 100%, but the only thing that has really started to work with me, not only in my mind, but you can say spiritually as well.
00:31:11.000Like this really just started kind of rumbling in my spirit per se is I don't really know how much longer I want to wait until the primaries come and then the next elections come and things like that.
00:31:25.000Are we not getting dangerously close to the point where the time is actually now to stand up and the time is actually now to go about things?
00:31:35.000I mean, I'm just asking, are we getting close?
00:31:37.000I've been doing a lot of research on the forming of the Republican Party in general, right?
00:31:44.000Are we not getting close to, you know, and you kind of hinted on it.
00:31:48.000You said Trump has vitalized, you know, these new form of Republicans.
00:31:55.000Maybe, and I heard Newsmax talking about it the other day.
00:31:58.000Maybe it is time for a third party, not an independent or things like that.
00:32:33.000Commit yourself to reopening the country.
00:32:34.000It's the most important fight right now.
00:32:37.000And the recount and all that stuff is important.
00:32:38.000Let me tell you why: is that if they get their way of locking down the country, then they are going to enact the great reset that the Davos World Economic Forum elite have been talking about.
00:32:50.000And why do the lockdowns matter to that?
00:32:52.000The lockdowns will cripple the American capital advantage so significantly.
00:32:57.000It'll cripple middle-class workers and the muscular class that all of a sudden the great reset will sound attractive to a lot of very vulnerable, suffering people.
00:33:06.000If you reopen the country, all of a sudden the great reset becomes widely unpopular.
00:33:12.000And the Justin Trudeau international global elite run by Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates, they will be repudiated regardless of what happens on January 20th at the inauguration.
00:33:26.000If you know a small business that remains closed, ask them why.
00:33:29.000If you know a pastor that remains closed, get them open.
00:33:32.000If every person listening to this helped actually play a part and play a role in reopening America, then the ushering in of the great reset will be very much disrupted, if not defeated.
00:33:45.000And that's kind of what that's kind of what I've been saying.
00:33:49.000Jay, can you look up the And Then They Came From Me poem and send it to me?
00:33:54.000And we're naturally going into where I want to take this thing.
00:33:59.000You know, you brought up a great point, but one thing that I'm also really starting to notice, Charlie, have you seen that viral video where they took like hundreds of different news outlets, local newsletters?
00:34:11.000Yeah, it's Operation Mockingbird is what it is.
00:34:16.000And they're all saying the exact same thing.
00:34:18.000Well, that's working very much towards the one media outlet, right?
00:34:22.000Like the one, the one-stop shop of everything that they want the people to see, they want the people to hear.
00:34:29.000And now big tech is really starting to play a part in that as well.
00:34:33.000Charlie, I have been, since I've been reinstated and remonetized on Facebook, I have been fact-checked and had to fight them twice in the past 10 days over this stuff.
00:34:44.000I got fact-checked over an electoral map that was my prediction of what I thought was going to happen in the election.
00:34:56.000And they fact-checked me saying that that was not true.
00:35:05.000We are no longer fact-checking over what is actually fact or actually not fact based off what these fact-checkers deem it to be.
00:35:13.000We are now simply telling other people that people are lying simply because we don't like what they're saying.
00:35:21.000And what they're saying can't be true because it contradicts what we're saying.
00:35:26.000And because it contradicts what we're saying, then we need to remove them.
00:35:31.000And if you don't play the game, and if you don't do this, this is why we started pushing so many people to the audio side of the podcast because we realized we can't even really talk about the things we want to talk about in front of our largest audience.
00:35:45.000Because if we do the Facebook Dear America Live like we were doing it, they're going to shut us down because we can't even say the things that we want to say.
00:35:56.000From your perspective, from Turning Point's perspective, are you guys seeing the same things that we are in that regard?
00:36:03.000That big tech is unfortunately, they're kind of starting to win a little bit is what it feels like at least.
00:36:20.000Well, no, it's actually, it's not on you.
00:36:21.000It's just on, I just was thinking about this the other day because their whole model is just basically spying on people and then surveilling them and then selling products that you think they might like because you are actually the product.
00:36:55.000Well, the people who house the data, the people that surveil you, the people that are able to be able to organize that data, they're going to have all the advantage, right?
00:37:03.000So Facebook has 5,000 individual pieces of information on every single person listening to this podcast.
00:37:09.000And so these companies are more powerful.
00:37:11.000They're more tyrannical than any other source of power than we have ever seen on the history of the planet.
00:37:17.000And so what's ended up happening here is they've created this mirage.
00:37:23.000If you ever seen the movie The Illusionist, it's very similar to this, right?
00:37:26.000So where they've created this something that is completely and totally artificial and fake in this fact, this fact-checking construction, where they act as if they're independent arbiters, when in reality, they are social justice warrior, BLM Incorporated, woke, transgender activist style activist, honestly, that go through and they say, oh, we're going to fact check because we're impartial.
00:40:08.000And so what I am saying, though, is that it's on the surface, very disturbing, somewhat depressing, but I'm starting to see a lot of different variables all of a sudden come on kind of the landscape here, kind of come on the chessboard that I think is very interesting.
00:40:23.000And I actually think that we're going to have the better side of these tech companies in the next 18 months.
00:40:36.000We're thinking about starting to put the podcast video only on Rumble, et cetera.
00:40:43.000But I like, I really like, and like you said, the entrepreneurial conservatives are starting to get smarter, like, for example, owning the RSS feeds for our podcast and pushing more people there, et cetera, et cetera.
00:40:56.000And one other thing before you say, we have to train our audience.
00:40:59.000This is a really important thing, right?
00:41:00.000So the more we talk about this and the more we make our audiences aware, like, hey, there might be a time where all of a sudden I might not exist on Facebook.
00:41:07.000So please go subscribe on other platforms.
00:41:40.000And I'm not going to lose my podcast feed.
00:41:42.000So even if Facebook and Twitter and Dorsey and Zuckerberg came together and say, we hate this Charlie guy, let's digitally assassinate him.
00:41:50.000My 1.5 million on Instagram, my 1 million on Facebook, not nearly your size, go away, that would be bad, right?
00:41:58.000That would be something that would be my life's work in that arena would be gone, but it wouldn't be catastrophic.
00:42:04.000And that's what I'm, so we have to train our audiences.
00:42:08.000So if you're listening to this, if I just disappear one day on a social media platform, you can find me in other places and make sure you reward us, Graham and us, by subscribing on our other feeds and getting behind us on alternative means of communication.
00:42:24.000Getting in shape doesn't have to be about losing a specific amount of weight.
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00:42:32.000Pumpkin pie, stuffing, cranberry, just a little less activity than usual.
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00:43:46.000And all of this brings me into, like I said, me personally, in my mind, in my spirit, like I've been, I've been dealing with a lot here lately trying to figure out, okay, you know, this is great.
00:44:35.000And so I've really been struggling with what can I do more than what I'm currently doing.
00:44:41.000So, Charlie, I said I was going to play you a clip, but it's been brought to my attention that during the speech of the clip, that's actually what I want you to hear.
00:44:49.000There's a lot of excess noise and cutscenes because it's a movie, right?
00:44:53.000So have you ever seen the movie V for Vendetta?
00:44:56.000It's a long time ago, but I'm familiar with the storyline and with the kind of aesthetic that the movie has, which is very, it's not cartoonish, but it has an aesthetic of kind of film noir almost exaggerated type blood and gore scenes.
00:45:22.000Like the movie's based in London, but it is about this figure, and his name is V. And some people would consider him the villain.
00:45:32.000Some people would consider him the patriot.
00:45:34.000You know, it truly is whether or not it can be argued you're a Democrat or Republican, how you view the movie.
00:45:41.000But either way, there's this scene in the movie, and I'm going to try to read you.
00:45:44.000I actually found the speech online instead of just playing you the clip.
00:45:49.000So they have a one-world media system in this world, and it is very tyrannical.
00:45:59.000They call them the censors is what they call them, where if you say something you're not supposed to say against the Grand Chancellor, the censors come up, which can be argued the fact checkers today, etc.
00:46:10.000So V ends up infiltrating the media company and he broadcast to the people.
00:46:17.000And it shows these people that are literally locked in their homes because they don't leave their homes anymore.
00:46:24.000They're afraid of diseases, all these other kinds of things.
00:46:28.000And here's some paragraphs that I want to run by you.
00:46:31.000And you tell me if it's not creepy how prophetic sometimes movies can be and where we are right now.
00:46:40.000So it's blah, for a couple of minutes.
00:46:44.000And he starts talking about, okay, here we go.
00:46:47.000I thought we could mark this November 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.
00:47:20.000And for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth.
00:47:24.000And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with the country, isn't there?
00:47:30.000Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression.
00:47:34.000And where you once had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting their submission.
00:48:46.000Based on that, what you just said, I bet they were taking a lot of inspiration from Orwell in 1984, where there was a ministry of truth where there was a centralized command, and it was actually the exact opposite.
00:49:02.000And that's where we get the ideas of double speak and double think, new speak, where they actually change language.
00:49:08.000And yes, that's exactly where we are headed, if not there already.
00:49:13.000And the part about looking in the mirror is exactly right.
00:49:18.000And every single person listening to this podcast needs to take personal responsibility for the country that you want to live in.
00:49:24.000I'm thinking of, and I don't want to give too much of a, you know, of a hand tilt to this of where I'm going, but there's a big chance, Graham, large chance that our generation will be the last Americans.
00:50:16.000And I feel like maybe even half the country believes that, and they would rather have the government take care of them than to risk their lives, whatever.
00:50:25.000Well, there's definitely a portion that believes that.
00:50:29.000And part of my problem is, you know, I have friends on the left that I talk to occasionally.
00:50:33.000And we're so polarized now that it worries me that even if we find fraud with the election, that these people won't care, that we're so divided that they would take the win, you know, cheating.
00:50:44.000They would rather there not be war in the streets over a stolen election and just take it.
00:51:42.000We are in a soft revolutionary period.
00:51:45.000I call it the post-institutional period in America, where people don't trust any institutions in America that are telling them what to do, what to say, how to think, what to eat, how to vote, who counts the votes, what to buy stuff from.
00:51:57.000We're now in a post-institutional period, which is a very dangerous moment if not handled correctly, but very exciting if handled correctly.
00:52:05.000If we do our job, it could be America's best century we've ever had.
00:52:08.000If we don't do our job, we're all done.
00:52:10.000And so because the New York Times and because the CDC and Dr. Anthony Fauci and Wall Street bankers and big data, because we don't trust them, all of a sudden there's a massive opportunity to fill that void.
00:52:24.000There's a huge opportunity on this barren wasteland of what we call the institutional kind of terrain to build anew and to build, support, and defend the good guys.
00:52:34.000However, we don't do our job, then all of a sudden really, really bad actors will only kind of resurrect these forces and we'll be in a lot of trouble.
00:52:41.000Here's what I will say, though, is kind of this idea of freedom not being, freedom not being a predominant viewpoint.
00:52:50.000People would much rather be taken care of than actually have to take care of themselves.
00:52:54.000The only reason why freedom in this country existed in any way that it did is because there was a faith backstop.
00:53:01.000Faith, and because of the laws of the Old Testament in particular that we take for granted in the West, is the only thing that prevents you from using that short-term freedom into an absolute reckless endangerment exercise where you end up screwing up your life miserably.
00:53:19.000And Galatians 3 talks about this is that the law is a school teacher.
00:53:24.000That if you follow the laws of Moses and then you point you to Christ, then all of a sudden you're going to live a pretty good life.
00:53:30.000Not only that, you'll be able to replicate yourself and replicate the country.
00:53:34.000You forsake that, all of a sudden your country will disintegrate that, which is exactly disintegrate, which is what we're seeing right now.
00:53:40.000And I'll say this as this is your Thanksgiving episode.
00:53:43.000If you're not thankful for the country you live in and you're angry that you live in this country, well, then that's the problem as well.
00:53:52.000And to your point of what you're saying, a lot of people argue that during the free love movement and things like that, that's where we started down the road.
00:54:01.000And it takes about two or three generations for it to really take hold, right?
00:54:07.000So, you know, a lot of people say that.
00:54:50.000First they came for the socialist, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist.
00:54:57.000Then they came for the trade unionist, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
00:55:03.000Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
00:55:08.000Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.
00:55:14.000So, my challenge to conservatives right now, I would argue to say that there are people that are coming for conservatives right now.
00:55:22.000My biggest thing, I've said this time and time again, Charlie, me and you have talked at many college campuses.
00:55:27.000I know you've heard me say this, that my biggest issue with the conservatives in general, especially the Christian conservatives, is this idea of just keep your head down, go to work, mind your own business, let the crazy people talk, and everything will be okay.
00:56:36.000And the Eat Me Last coalition of moderate Republicans and Democrats that think they also won't be censored and kicked off the internet and punished is just a foolish position to have.
00:56:47.000And so, look, this has to be our big moment.
00:56:50.000This has to be the moment where we civilly disobey.
00:56:54.000We stand for speech, but we also have to get really, here's, I'll close with this.
00:56:58.000And I think both of us got a run here, which is that there's this irresistible urge at times in internet culture to want to mock, ridicule, and destroy any podcaster or any person that has any form of success or any pundit or whatever it might be.
00:57:14.000And you and I have both experienced this.
00:57:16.000And as conservatives, there's kind of this very quiet, silent snickering when another conservative kind of gets attacked at times.
00:57:25.000And this is a really important teaching moment where why don't we spend more energy building each other up like what we're doing right now, going on each other's podcasts, sharing each other's content, because there's going to be a moment where we're all going to need each other.
00:57:38.000And that moment's now coming right now when they start, because there might be a time where you might be stronger on a certain platform than me and vice versa.
00:57:46.000And for the audience watching, stop spending your social media energy going after and trying to wish harm amongst people that have some form of success because there's this really cynical, nihilistic behavior that's happening right now on the internet over the last couple of years, where anyone that's doing well in life, there must be some way to destroy them.