The Charlie Kirk Show - Thanksgiving LOCKDOWN & A New Republican Party with Graham Allen

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00:00:01.000 Happy Thanksgiving.

00:00:02.000 This Thanksgiving, we wanted to air an exclusive conversation I had with my friend Graham Allen, one of the good guys.

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00:00:37.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:02:33.000 Hey, what up, what up, what up?

00:02:35.000 What's going on, America?

00:02:37.000 We have a bombshell episode for you today.

00:02:40.000 The man, the myth, the legend, Mr. Charlie Kirk is joining us.

00:02:45.000 Charlie, how are you, man?

00:02:47.000 I'm doing great.

00:02:48.000 Thanks for having me.

00:02:49.000 Hey, look, if there is a podcast that you guys should listen to besides mine, it should be Charlie Kirk's.

00:02:56.000 I'm telling you, I did a thousand-mile drive each way to Missouri not too long ago, and I listened to Charlie's show the entire way.

00:03:06.000 You're killing it, man.

00:03:06.000 You're at the killing.

00:03:08.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:03:08.000 And likewise, your podcast has surged recently.

00:03:12.000 So we're posting this on both our feeds.

00:03:15.000 So it's great.

00:03:17.000 And congratulations on all the success.

00:03:20.000 Oh, man.

00:03:21.000 Well, I'm just trying to be like you, brother.

00:03:22.000 I really am.

00:03:23.000 All right, Charlie, we got a lot of stuff to talk about.

00:03:26.000 This is our Thanksgiving episode.

00:03:29.000 So obviously, we're going to talk about just the tyranny that is gripping across our country.

00:03:36.000 It is against the law to celebrate with your family and friends today.

00:03:40.000 But really quick, we would be remiss not to talk about the election, the Sydney Powell stuff that's going on with you since you are here.

00:03:51.000 I just recorded an episode, our last episode, and I gave my predictions of what I think is going on.

00:03:57.000 I would love to hear your thoughts on the Sydney Powell bombshells that just dropped just on Sunday.

00:04:04.000 Yeah, look, so we're kind of waiting to see what Sidney Powell has.

00:04:09.000 You know, I've known Sidney for years.

00:04:10.000 She was speaking at our Turning Point USA events years ago at our Young Women's Leadership Summit before she was a household name.

00:04:17.000 And I think she has earned the benefit of trust.

00:04:20.000 And I don't think that everyone in the kind of media circuit has given that to her.

00:04:25.000 She was talking a really big game with Michael Flynn, and she said, I'm going to get this guy off.

00:04:30.000 I'm going to be able to prove that they entrapped him.

00:04:33.000 And she was mocked by a lot of people, and she ended up being correct.

00:04:37.000 And she also exposed the barge scandal with Merrill Lynch in her book, License to Lie.

00:04:43.000 I encourage everyone to check out that book.

00:04:44.000 It's a really, really good book.

00:04:46.000 And she used to be a prosecutor for the Department of Justice, a federal prosecutor.

00:04:50.000 And so I think that she has really earned our trust.

00:04:54.000 Now, with that being said, Graham, she's making some pretty bumshell accusations.

00:04:59.000 I mean, extreme accusations, biblical accusations, you could say.

00:05:03.000 So, I mean, it would be the largest scandal in American history.

00:05:06.000 And I'm not joking about it.

00:05:08.000 I'm not saying she doesn't have that.

00:05:10.000 I am saying it's going to be very difficult to prove.

00:05:12.000 It wouldn't surprise me after what we've seen all these Democrats what they are willing to do and what they're capable of doing, whether we can prove it or not remains to be seen.

00:05:21.000 And I think that now Sidney Powell is in a position where she should start to at least feed the American public with some of the publicly available evidence that she's comfortable with for the reason of winning the narrative war.

00:05:36.000 And we are running out of time.

00:05:38.000 I mean, there's a 79-day window between the presidential election and the presidential inauguration.

00:05:43.000 We've already eaten up about, at the airing of this episode, about 20 to 25 days of that.

00:05:48.000 And so, you know, that clock is definitely ticking down.

00:05:52.000 But I think that the Trump team distancing themselves from Sidney Powell is, I don't even like using that word distancing.

00:05:59.000 I think they're on different tracks.

00:06:00.000 I think that Sidney Powell is going for a massive, low-probability win.

00:06:05.000 So it's probably a lower probability that Sidney Powell is able to reverse it based on what she says.

00:06:10.000 But the reward would be, you know, basically the indictment of thousands of people potentially.

00:06:15.000 Where the Trump campaign, I think, is looking more at singles and doubles, to use a baseball analogy of just kind of, you know, more incremental victories of signature verification, absentee ballot process stuff.

00:06:26.000 That's what we said.

00:06:27.000 That's what we said in the episode.

00:06:29.000 Yeah, I agree with that 100%.

00:06:31.000 Yeah, I do.

00:06:34.000 I would love nothing more than the hashtag cracking on steroids to just blow everything up.

00:06:40.000 What do you think about, and obviously, this is me and you talking.

00:06:44.000 This is Dear America uncensored.

00:06:46.000 So this is me and you, just our opinions.

00:06:48.000 What do you think of the accusations she's saying with Governor Kemp?

00:06:52.000 What do you think about that?

00:06:54.000 A lot of people are saying that, you know, he kind of stabbed Trump in the back a little bit there.

00:06:58.000 Yeah, I'm not happy with Governor Kemp.

00:07:00.000 I supported him in 2018.

00:07:02.000 Obviously, he was a lot better than Stacey Abrams.

00:07:05.000 Correct.

00:07:06.000 Raffensperger, who is the Secretary of State, has made a sequence of really bizarre and unacceptable and inexplicable decisions where he has basically catered to the Stacey Abrams lobby when signature verification, absentee ballot requests.

00:07:19.000 So here's a really good example of this.

00:07:21.000 In 2016, there was like 260,000 mail-in ballots in 2016.

00:07:26.000 Sounds like a big number.

00:07:27.000 There were 1.3 million returns this election.

00:07:31.000 And so what guarantees has Kemp or Raffensperger been able to give us that they were able to check all 1.3 million ballots?

00:07:41.000 Did they hire more staff?

00:07:43.000 What were poll watchers allowed?

00:07:44.000 I mean, that's an enormous scale, right?

00:07:48.000 So anyone who has built any businesses, you know, if, for example, if you know, at our Turning Point USA Student Action Summit, you're speaking there.

00:07:55.000 We're hosting it, you know, in Palm Beach.

00:07:58.000 We're anticipating about 5,000 people.

00:08:00.000 Okay.

00:08:00.000 So we're ready for 5,000 people, the infrastructure, the hotel rooms.

00:08:04.000 If all of a sudden, three weeks before you told me there were going to be 50,000 people, I would say, I don't have the infrastructure for this.

00:08:11.000 That's the kind of scaling.

00:08:12.000 And that's exactly what happened with Georgia and this entire mail-in ballot is they had an expectation of maybe a half a million ballots and then 1.3 million ended up being turned in.

00:08:24.000 And so we have never been, we haven't been given answers of, did you verify all these signatures the same way you did in 2016?

00:08:31.000 Did you make sure these people were all living in the state?

00:08:33.000 Absolutely not.

00:08:35.000 They don't have the personnel to do that.

00:08:36.000 And so, and I am of the opinion that Kemp and Raffensperger were trying to rush this thing through.

00:08:44.000 They had an adversarial relationship with Trump, Kemp in particular, around the appointment of Kelly Lawfler to the U.S. Senate seat.

00:08:50.000 And they're part of more of the establishment wing of the party.

00:08:52.000 And I hope that they will start to make right this problem in Georgia where we know there was fraud.

00:09:00.000 We know it.

00:09:01.000 And the question is whether or not they'll actually have the courage, their convictions, to reverse it.

00:09:06.000 Yeah.

00:09:06.000 So I'm glad you went that route, Charlie.

00:09:08.000 And I don't want to dive too far into this rabbit hole because I want to get into Thanksgiving tyranny.

00:09:14.000 And then at the end, I really want to just throw some stuff at you.

00:09:18.000 And I'm really excited to throw this video clip at you.

00:09:23.000 And I'm excited about it because I just brought it up in my last episode.

00:09:27.000 And I would be interested for someone else to listen to it.

00:09:31.000 But talking about the election and everything like that, I feel, me personally, I am at this point, I am 100% positive that voter fraud occurred.

00:09:44.000 That whether you believe the Sidney Powell, you know, the Kraken, you know, as far as all that goes, that is yet to be seen.

00:09:52.000 And hopefully, I hope she does prove it.

00:09:55.000 But what do you do when you now have the count is 74 million plus for Donald Trump right now?

00:10:03.000 What do you do, Charlie, when you have legitimately, at minimum, 74 million Americans that truly believe that this election was stolen from them?

00:10:16.000 Not that Joe Biden is an illegitimate president, that he legitimately is not the president and he did not win.

00:10:24.000 We are teetering on some very, very, very serious potential issues in our country because you have people, it's no longer, well, he's an illegitimate president.

00:10:35.000 He didn't win the popular vote, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:37.000 It is no, like they had for Trump.

00:10:40.000 It is now all of these people truly believe, at least the vast majority, no, this election was stolen from us.

00:10:48.000 Where do you see this going?

00:10:50.000 Yeah, I mean, I hold that view too.

00:10:52.000 And so that's not an it's not a baseless view.

00:10:55.000 The media would like you to believe that.

00:10:57.000 It's the Chicagoization of American politics where they built an infrastructure of organized crime to try and steal this.

00:11:03.000 And it was done in a variety of different ways.

00:11:06.000 There's many different parts of voter fraud.

00:11:08.000 And I think that for most viewers, they're just starting to get caught up on the many years of research I've done on this.

00:11:14.000 And so I kind of have to always walk through this because it just hundreds of pages that you found.

00:11:19.000 Exactly.

00:11:19.000 We have hundreds of pages here of different pieces of indicted voter fraud that, again, I have to just walk through this very meticulously.

00:11:27.000 So there's first and foremost, there's voter registration fraud, right?

00:11:30.000 So this is one part of voter fraud where you go to at-risk parts of the population, developmentally disabled, nursing homes, dementia units, and you register a lot of people to vote, elderly people, and then you're able to intercept the ballots or help them fill out the ballots for your own political candidate or favor.

00:11:47.000 This is something that has now been revealed in Wisconsin, where a whistleblower came forth a couple of days ago by the name of Susan, where she said all 20 of her developmentally disabled clients and her patients, I should say, were forced to vote for Joe Biden.

00:12:00.000 This is a practice called granny farming by the New York Times.

00:12:03.000 And this is a verified article that was in the mainstream press, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

00:12:08.000 The rest of the country doesn't cover it.

00:12:10.000 So that's one portion of it, which is the voter rolls.

00:12:13.000 Who's actually on the voter rolls?

00:12:14.000 Why are dead people on the voter rolls?

00:12:15.000 Why have people that have moved on the voter rolls?

00:12:17.000 And there are very easy ways to clean the voter rolls.

00:12:21.000 This is not something that is difficult, right?

00:12:23.000 We act as if this is a big thing where we need committees.

00:12:26.000 It's super simple, okay?

00:12:28.000 And states that have done this, like Florida, end up having the most transparent and trusted elections in the country where they're able to report quickly and people know the winner is legitimate and no one's actually questioning it.

00:12:39.000 Do you notice that Joe Biden's not questioning the results in Florida?

00:12:42.000 Why?

00:12:43.000 It's because in Florida, when someone dies and there's a death certificate that is submitted to the county, they're automatically removed from the voter roll.

00:12:50.000 It's a super simple practice, right?

00:12:52.000 So you work with the Secretary of State's office and the coroner and the county, and there's records of all this.

00:12:58.000 And every six months they go through, they say, okay, XYZ passed away.

00:13:02.000 We're going to remove them from the voter roll.

00:13:03.000 It's not that hard.

00:13:04.000 The same with when someone moves out of state, right?

00:13:06.000 So you sell a piece of property in Gainesville, Florida, you move to Georgia or you move to Tennessee or wherever.

00:13:12.000 You all of a sudden you say, I'm no longer a Florida resident.

00:13:15.000 You're moved off of the voter.

00:13:16.000 That's not that hard to do.

00:13:17.000 What happens in a lot of these states, again, this is just one piece of 15 parts of way voter fraud can happen, okay?

00:13:23.000 Where they don't cleanse the voter rolls.

00:13:25.000 And so specifically in blue states and even more specifically in urban areas, they have these bloated voter rolls of multi-decades of people that have never been cleansed, of people that are not alive, not in the state.

00:13:38.000 They're not active.

00:13:39.000 They're no longer in the area.

00:13:40.000 Now, why does that actually matter?

00:13:42.000 Well, when all of a sudden you get into a vote-by-mail period and the vote-by-mail period has now really, we've entered into that era in America for the worse, and you start sending out ballots that people never requested.

00:13:53.000 Well, then people that have moved, that have died, that are no longer even in the same time zone, that ballot is going to be sent to those areas, especially to college campuses, nursing homes, and shared living centers, where a lot of people are registered to vote at the same address.

00:14:08.000 And so a great example that I give is someone I know who's a landlord of a piece of property in downtown Philadelphia near Temple University and Drexel University, where a lot of students live.

00:14:17.000 Those campuses are basically closed right now.

00:14:20.000 Those like shared housing units were getting dozens of ballots sent to that place despite no one living there all throughout the month of September.

00:14:28.000 Now, he's a good landlord.

00:14:30.000 He got all the ballots and he either destroyed them or submitted them.

00:14:33.000 But imagine if he wasn't a good person. 0.81

00:14:35.000 Imagine, and this idea that there are not criminals in our midst that are going to try to compromise the system is so foolish, especially when you have 150 million people participating in it.

00:14:46.000 So I don't want to take too much time of it.

00:14:48.000 I'm happy to refer people to my podcast, but that's just one portion is the voter registration part of it, right?

00:14:53.000 Then the other part of it, again, there's 15 of these buckets.

00:14:56.000 The other part of it is the actual vote gathering of it, right?

00:14:59.000 Which is who's actually intercepting these ballots?

00:15:02.000 Who's accepting them?

00:15:03.000 Who's turning them in? 0.58

00:15:05.000 Who's overseeing it?

00:15:06.000 So this is a practice called ballot laundering, right?

00:15:09.000 So to where you take, it's the Ozark election, as you tweeted out.

00:15:12.000 And I said, I mentioned it.

00:15:15.000 It's no different than Marty Bird running our elections, where you have dirty ballots that get cleaned and they put in the system and you have no idea who they are.

00:15:22.000 Then there's the whole thing about the vote counting and who's actually counting the votes.

00:15:25.000 Are they tearing up Trump votes?

00:15:26.000 We have video of that.

00:15:27.000 Are they throwing away ballots they don't like?

00:15:29.000 We have video of that.

00:15:30.000 Are they accepting ballots that are illegitimate?

00:15:32.000 We have video of that, right?

00:15:33.000 So you put all these pieces together.

00:15:35.000 All of a sudden, you start to have what really looks like a criminal network that could then influence an election by 30 or 40,000 votes or 100 or 200,000 votes.

00:15:42.000 And let me say this, Graham, really quick.

00:15:44.000 And again, I could go through all the other different buckets and evidence.

00:15:47.000 It's just, I don't want to exhaust your viewers on this for those of you that have heard it before.

00:15:51.000 But here's the bigger point.

00:15:52.000 Let's just think about this from a macro perspective.

00:15:55.000 People cheat on everything.

00:15:57.000 People cheat on monopoly.

00:15:58.000 People cheat at poker.

00:16:00.000 People cheat on their taxes.

00:16:01.000 People cheat when they drive to work.

00:16:02.000 Okay.

00:16:03.000 They run red lights.

00:16:04.000 They disobey no U-turn signs.

00:16:06.000 They don't put on their seatbelt.

00:16:07.000 Some people drink and drive, don't do that.

00:16:10.000 People disobey rules all the time.

00:16:12.000 You're trying to tell me that when the ultimate prize, the $4 trillion government and the best army that you heroically served in ever to exist in history, the planet is now up for grabs, that all of a sudden people are going to act perfectly and ethically.

00:16:24.000 The very same people who cheat on their taxes, who launder money, who cut corners, now they're all of a sudden going to say, now I'm going to put on a badge of doing everything perfectly. 0.99

00:16:32.000 It's foolish. 0.99

00:16:33.000 It's silly. 1.00

00:16:33.000 No one should take that argument seriously. 1.00

00:16:36.000 And they also say this: they say that there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud.

00:16:41.000 First of all, that's a subjective statement mixed with an objective statement.

00:16:44.000 So, for example, what does widespread even mean?

00:16:46.000 1%, 2%, 5%?

00:16:48.000 Well, 1% wouldn't be widespread, but 1% could impact an election.

00:16:53.000 1% would mean that Trump wins Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania, and he's president. 0.99

00:16:57.000 So this term widespread is a stupid word. 1.00

00:16:59.000 We should never accept it again. 1.00

00:17:01.000 But here's the other part of it: if you would have told someone in Boston in the 1960s or 70s that there were hundreds of Catholic priests molesting children, they'd say, you're a liar. 1.00

00:17:10.000 Sit down and shut up. 0.99

00:17:11.000 You're not allowed to say that. 0.99

00:17:12.000 It wasn't until the investigations came out and we looked into it.

00:17:15.000 We found it.

00:17:15.000 If you would have told me 10 years ago, as I was an Eagle Scout in Boy Scouts of America, that 89,000 people would come forward and say they were sexually assaulted in the Boy Scouts of America, I would say there's no way, show me the evidence.

00:17:25.000 We didn't know this till investigations started.

00:17:28.000 If you would have told me in 2005 that Jeffrey Epstein was flying to private islands with Bill Clinton and internationally sex trafficking underage women, I'd say that doesn't make any sense.

00:17:36.000 What's the point?

00:17:37.000 Is our paradigm of which we view things needs to be challenged sometimes because we now have multiple decades of evidence of things that we once thought were like impossible that get unraveled once we look into it.

00:17:50.000 We have evidence to show that this is well worthy of a concerted, well-funded, journalistic and governmental investigation.

00:17:57.000 And anyone who tries to stop you from doing that are the same people that would have been defending the Catholic Church in the 1970s or defending the Boy Scouts of America the last five years or defending Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein.

00:18:08.000 Sometimes there's more to the story, and this is one of those times.

00:18:12.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

00:18:13.000 Fact checkers are a big issue with this too.

00:18:15.000 I've said this on the show a couple of times.

00:18:17.000 Thomas Edison, if Facebook had been around when he said, you know what, I think I can make a candle last forever, he'd have been fact-checked and kicked off of Facebook.

00:18:28.000 Thousands of years ago, if people would have said, you know what, I don't think we're the only planet here, they would have been fact-checked and kicked off of Facebook.

00:18:36.000 You also have people like Elizabeth Warren and Klovichar, who weeks before the election were showing their concern for things like Dominion and how easy it is for fraud to happen.

00:18:46.000 And then now Biden's, you know, president-elect or whatever.

00:18:49.000 No, there's no issues with Dominion at all.

00:18:53.000 Are you questioning the election?

00:18:54.000 It's just so funny how they flip-flop.

00:18:56.000 Well, we'll get back to election and just this big tech tyranny that is going on because I truly believe that we are already in our, I call it our, well, I won't go that far yet.

00:19:11.000 Let's talk about Thanksgiving.

00:19:12.000 This is a Thanksgiving episode.

00:19:13.000 All right.

00:19:13.000 We're going to get carried away.

00:19:14.000 Let's do this thing.

00:19:16.000 Okay, Charlie, I have already stated publicly, and I'll state it here for this episode.

00:19:21.000 I plan on, even if a mandate comes down, which thankfully South Carolina has not yet, I will break the law and I will have as many people over at my house as I want to have at my house because ain't nobody going to tell me when I can and cannot see my family.

00:19:37.000 I would assume, Charlie Kirk, that you are the same way.

00:19:42.000 Let's talk about tyranny, literal tyranny that is happening in our country.

00:19:49.000 And worse, from elected officials, a government of the people, by the people, for the people, right?

00:19:57.000 Like that's the whole point.

00:19:58.000 Where did we go terribly wrong?

00:20:00.000 What is happening?

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00:21:09.000 Well, yeah, everyone should disobey these orders.

00:21:12.000 And if you're an at-risk population and you could possibly get compromised by the virus, then make a decision in your own, using your own liberty and make it responsibly.

00:21:22.000 But for the 99% of the population that's not going to die from this thing, that's under the age of 30, that doesn't have preexisting health conditions, then it's time to disobey.

00:21:32.000 And it's not just time to disobey a little bit.

00:21:34.000 It's time to disobey a lot.

00:21:36.000 Where we went wrong, Graham, is a lot of different ways.

00:21:42.000 One of the ways that we went wrong, and I think this is finally starting to crack, is the expert class in this country has been so phenomenally wrong about everything the last couple years that I think their legitimacy is soon going to be so damaged that people will no longer trust anything they say.

00:22:00.000 We're not there yet, but we still have a fair amount of people that will trust anything that they read in the New York Times and CNN.

00:22:07.000 Where we really went wrong with this, though, is that, and I don't think we're part of this.

00:22:13.000 I just think that the leaders of some of these states are pandering along this way too much, is that we value safety far more than we value freedom.

00:22:22.000 And that's a very dangerous sequence of choices to be, that's a very dangerous sequence of events.

00:22:29.000 And so I have so many questions I'd love to ask a public health official about all this and a Republican governor.

00:22:36.000 And they don't talk to me anymore.

00:22:37.000 Those don't, because they know they're wrong.

00:22:40.000 And they know that.

00:22:41.000 I mean, a great example of this, again, I'm going to keep on bringing up someone who I think is worthy of platforming because we can go through Whitmer and Kate Brown and Pritzker and Cuomo and Newsome.

00:22:50.000 They're all awful. 0.95

00:22:51.000 They're all terrible. 1.00

00:22:52.000 We know that.

00:22:52.000 And Larry Hogan and Mike DeWine and Charlie Baker, Republicans and Democrats alike.

00:22:56.000 Kim Reynolds with the mask mandate, Doug Burnham and North Dakota, the mask mandate.

00:23:00.000 But let's talk about the people that are actually doing something right.

00:23:00.000 They're terrible.

00:23:03.000 And I think Governor Ron DeSantis deserves a tremendous amount of credit because he's been under a huge amount of pressure to shut down the state of Florida again, to issue a mask mandate.

00:23:13.000 And every time he'll give a similar speech, which is, look, here are the facts of the virus.

00:23:17.000 If you live in a nursing home, if you live and you're over the age of 70 and you're immunocompromised, take this very seriously.

00:23:24.000 And he's very clear about that. 0.89

00:23:25.000 And he should be.

00:23:26.000 That's his duty.

00:23:27.000 He says, however, if you are 18 to 30, then make decisions that will benefit your life using the freedom that I am now protecting for you.

00:23:37.000 I'm not granting to you.

00:23:38.000 I'm protecting.

00:23:39.000 And Florida has done an amazing job.

00:23:41.000 It's an immensely popular position.

00:23:43.000 Small businesses are not going under.

00:23:45.000 Schools remain open.

00:23:46.000 Families are flourishing.

00:23:47.000 There's going to be a lot of good Thanksgiving celebrations across the state of Florida.

00:23:51.000 Liberty is really hard.

00:23:52.000 Okay.

00:23:52.000 Liberty is a difficult thing.

00:23:55.000 And so here's a great example of Thanksgiving liberty that we never talked about.

00:23:58.000 Okay.

00:23:59.000 So do you know the number one drinking night of the year is the Wednesday before Thanksgiving?

00:24:05.000 It is.

00:24:07.000 Nope.

00:24:09.000 Is it because of all the family being there?

00:24:12.000 Well, it is.

00:24:12.000 There's a lot of different competing theories about this, right?

00:24:15.000 But this is a very good example, right?

00:24:17.000 So it's the number one, outside of New Year's Eve, I think in July 4th, it's the number one year for DUIs.

00:24:22.000 At least it was in the Midwest when I was talking to sheriffs' associations.

00:24:26.000 It was super interesting.

00:24:26.000 Here's one of the reasons why, is it's super dark, right?

00:24:29.000 It's where the sun goes down really early, and that just leads to drinking.

00:24:34.000 There's direct connection to the lack of vitamin D and people that want to find some sort of chemical reprieve from that, family members being around.

00:24:40.000 And also, you have a couple days to kind of shake it off, right?

00:24:43.000 You got Thanksgiving, you got Black Friday, you got the weekend.

00:24:46.000 So it makes sense.

00:24:47.000 So thousands of people, let me be very clear, thousands of people will get in car accidents this weekend because of alcohol, because of the mismanagement of alcohol, because of bad decisions.

00:24:58.000 Now, Pennsylvania has come out and they have said we are banning alcohol for one evening during Thanksgiving.

00:25:04.000 I don't know if you've seen that or not.

00:25:05.000 No, I haven't seen it well.

00:25:07.000 That's not going to go over well.

00:25:10.000 But at least.

00:25:11.000 No, no, no, but it's actually really important.

00:25:13.000 At least Tom Wolf is now making my argument, which is, okay, if all you care about is people's safety and no freedom, then you might as well ban alcohol on Thanksgiving.

00:25:24.000 He's doing it.

00:25:25.000 Now he's all in, right?

00:25:26.000 His whole, by the way, he should make speed limits 10 miles an hour.

00:25:30.000 He should say you have to bicycle, you know, and no, people should just walk at this point.

00:25:35.000 I mean, if you're really worried about if we are going to now continue on this trend of what I call safetyism, which is a belief that at all costs, we must forsake liberty for safety, then you should get rid of drinking on Thanksgiving weekend because it would save hundreds of lives.

00:25:56.000 Yeah.

00:25:57.000 When we, this is the biggest thing that we've been talking about a lot.

00:26:02.000 I have started saying this a lot and this phrase, and a lot of people have really like popped off with this.

00:26:10.000 It is my version of it's the 2020 version of don't tread on me.

00:26:15.000 And it is simply two words, make us.

00:26:19.000 And I really do believe that.

00:26:20.000 Make us.

00:26:22.000 And it should be an anthem that real Americans should really, really start saying is make us.

00:26:29.000 Prove to us that we have to do this.

00:26:31.000 Why do we have to do this?

00:26:33.000 We elected you.

00:26:34.000 Technically, you work for us.

00:26:36.000 Why are we listening to this thing that we know is not constitutional and that we know is against our God-given rights as Americans?

00:26:43.000 Make us.

00:26:43.000 Charlie, the problem that I see on our end, and granted, you are far smarter than me.

00:26:49.000 You're smarter than I'll ever be.

00:26:50.000 Man, you know, I learned so much stuff from you, but I would like to believe that I pick up on emotional things from people.

00:26:59.000 And the issue that I am seeing with Americans right now, especially conservatives, is there's a lot of people who say they believe something.

00:27:07.000 There's a lot of people who say they stand for something.

00:27:11.000 There's a lot of people who I think they legitimately believe that they do.

00:27:15.000 But when push comes to shove, when their paychecks get threatened, their comfort gets threatened, their credibility gets threatened, or their friendships or relationships get threatened, they just bow their head and they just go and walk among the masses.

00:27:32.000 Just don't cause any problems.

00:27:34.000 Weak conservatives.

00:27:37.000 And it's really starting to bother me because we need people that are willing to stand up.

00:27:43.000 And we need people that are not afraid to stand that line and respectfully, even with police officers, police officers are being put in horrible positions right now to enforce things that even they know aren't constitutional.

00:27:56.000 But we need Americans that are willing to stand up and say, Make us.

00:28:00.000 Charlie, are you picking up the same thing that we are?

00:28:03.000 Yeah, and it's not a total surprise that you'll have a bunch of people that'll talk a good game and not actually act on it.

00:28:10.000 I mean, the American Revolution was vocally supported by about a third of the country, but actually was really fought by less than 1% of the country at most with the supply lines and with the actual infrastructure.

00:28:23.000 3% of the country was involved.

00:28:25.000 And so that's kind of this law replicates itself typically in kind of these fights because it is more popular to go side with the British.

00:28:34.000 It's way more popular to pledge your fealty to King George.

00:28:38.000 That's easy, right?

00:28:39.000 It's a lot easier to all of a sudden say, oh, yeah, I'm all in on this American experiment thing, conservatism.

00:28:44.000 But then it's hard to reopen your bakery.

00:28:46.000 It's hard to open your gym against the orders of Phil Murphy or Gavin Newsom or J.B. Pritzker or Tony Evers or any of these governors that have decided to be mini Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalinites, right?

00:28:59.000 And so the question then is, what is our role?

00:29:04.000 And I will say this, that the Republican Party has plenty of problems.

00:29:10.000 The one thing that I've learned about the Republican Party is that they need very specific marching orders.

00:29:17.000 They need to, they'll do what they're told.

00:29:20.000 And so that's not always the case, but it's on us, not on them.

00:29:23.000 We need to give them the cadence to march.

00:29:25.000 And a great example of this, a great example of this is when Senator Mike Braun from Indiana over the summer came out in support of BLM Incorporated.

00:29:34.000 He was asked specifically on some podcast, do you support the BLM Inc. movement?

00:29:40.000 And he paused and he said, yes, I do.

00:29:42.000 So Tucker Carlson and myself were two of the most aggressive people that went after Mike Braun calling for his primary, calling for his resignation.

00:29:50.000 He had never experienced a whirlwind like that.

00:29:52.000 And within 48 hours, he retracted it and said, I think BLM is a Marxist deconstructionist group.

00:29:58.000 He also pulled this piece of legislation to try and put forward some sort of police reform, which was total nonsense.

00:30:04.000 What's the moral?

00:30:05.000 Moral of that story is that Mike Braun did not die on that hill.

00:30:08.000 He realized that with the Republican base that was angry at him and that wanted a certain amount of fulfillment of his promises to the people of Indiana, he went to the direction of I am now going to actually be rooted in common sense, not pandering of racial politics and of insurrectionist forces.

00:30:25.000 The same has to be here, that if you're a governor, a Republican governor, and you're shutting down your state and issuing mask mandates, all of you will be primaried.

00:30:33.000 All of you.

00:30:34.000 You will be kicked out of the Republican Party.

00:30:36.000 This is now a party of strong Republicans that President Donald Trump has remade the same way FDR remade the Democrat Party in the 1930s.

00:30:44.000 This is not going to go away.

00:30:46.000 And if you're Larry Hogan or Charlie Baker or Mike DeWine, or if you're Kim Reynolds doing these mask mandates or Doug Burnham doing these mask mandates and you try to shut down your state again, then we will not forget that and you'll have a political price to pay.

00:30:59.000 Yeah, but see, Charlie, the only thing, and I agree with you 100%, but the only thing that has really started to work with me, not only in my mind, but you can say spiritually as well.

00:31:11.000 Like this really just started kind of rumbling in my spirit per se is I don't really know how much longer I want to wait until the primaries come and then the next elections come and things like that.

00:31:25.000 Are we not getting dangerously close to the point where the time is actually now to stand up and the time is actually now to go about things?

00:31:35.000 I mean, I'm just asking, are we getting close?

00:31:37.000 I've been doing a lot of research on the forming of the Republican Party in general, right?

00:31:44.000 Are we not getting close to, you know, and you kind of hinted on it.

00:31:48.000 You said Trump has vitalized, you know, these new form of Republicans.

00:31:55.000 Maybe, and I heard Newsmax talking about it the other day.

00:31:58.000 Maybe it is time for a third party, not an independent or things like that.

00:32:01.000 I mean, maybe, maybe it is time.

00:32:03.000 What are your thoughts on something like that?

00:32:05.000 The only challenge is that it would definitely splinter and give an advantage to the Democrats.

00:32:09.000 And so I'm all for a MAGA party.

00:32:12.000 If all of a sudden they blink first and they start a socialist party, then all of a sudden I think there's a great opening to do that.

00:32:18.000 The problem with kind of the system that we have is you have to build a broad-based coalition.

00:32:23.000 You have to bring forth a lot of forces together.

00:32:26.000 And so that's my only fear is that it would splinter.

00:32:28.000 But however, ideologically, you're exactly right.

00:32:30.000 So what do we do right now?

00:32:32.000 People say, what do I do?

00:32:33.000 Commit yourself to reopening the country.

00:32:34.000 It's the most important fight right now.

00:32:37.000 And the recount and all that stuff is important.

00:32:38.000 Let me tell you why: is that if they get their way of locking down the country, then they are going to enact the great reset that the Davos World Economic Forum elite have been talking about.

00:32:48.000 It's one world government stuff.

00:32:50.000 And why do the lockdowns matter to that?

00:32:52.000 The lockdowns will cripple the American capital advantage so significantly.

00:32:57.000 It'll cripple middle-class workers and the muscular class that all of a sudden the great reset will sound attractive to a lot of very vulnerable, suffering people.

00:33:06.000 If you reopen the country, all of a sudden the great reset becomes widely unpopular.

00:33:12.000 And the Justin Trudeau international global elite run by Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates, they will be repudiated regardless of what happens on January 20th at the inauguration.

00:33:22.000 So people say, what can I do?

00:33:24.000 Open up your country.

00:33:26.000 If you know a small business that remains closed, ask them why.

00:33:29.000 If you know a pastor that remains closed, get them open.

00:33:32.000 If every person listening to this helped actually play a part and play a role in reopening America, then the ushering in of the great reset will be very much disrupted, if not defeated.

00:33:43.000 No, I agree.

00:33:45.000 And that's kind of what that's kind of what I've been saying.

00:33:49.000 Jay, can you look up the And Then They Came From Me poem and send it to me?

00:33:54.000 And we're naturally going into where I want to take this thing.

00:33:59.000 You know, you brought up a great point, but one thing that I'm also really starting to notice, Charlie, have you seen that viral video where they took like hundreds of different news outlets, local newsletters?

00:34:11.000 Yeah, it's Operation Mockingbird is what it is.

00:34:15.000 Yes.

00:34:16.000 Yes.

00:34:16.000 And they're all saying the exact same thing.

00:34:18.000 Well, that's working very much towards the one media outlet, right?

00:34:22.000 Like the one, the one-stop shop of everything that they want the people to see, they want the people to hear.

00:34:29.000 And now big tech is really starting to play a part in that as well.

00:34:33.000 Charlie, I have been, since I've been reinstated and remonetized on Facebook, I have been fact-checked and had to fight them twice in the past 10 days over this stuff.

00:34:44.000 I got fact-checked over an electoral map that was my prediction of what I thought was going to happen in the election.

00:34:56.000 And they fact-checked me saying that that was not true.

00:34:59.000 I got fact-checked over an opinion.

00:35:02.000 I got fact-checked over a guess.

00:35:05.000 We are no longer fact-checking over what is actually fact or actually not fact based off what these fact-checkers deem it to be.

00:35:13.000 We are now simply telling other people that people are lying simply because we don't like what they're saying.

00:35:21.000 And what they're saying can't be true because it contradicts what we're saying.

00:35:26.000 And because it contradicts what we're saying, then we need to remove them.

00:35:31.000 And if you don't play the game, and if you don't do this, this is why we started pushing so many people to the audio side of the podcast because we realized we can't even really talk about the things we want to talk about in front of our largest audience.

00:35:45.000 Because if we do the Facebook Dear America Live like we were doing it, they're going to shut us down because we can't even say the things that we want to say.

00:35:56.000 From your perspective, from Turning Point's perspective, are you guys seeing the same things that we are in that regard?

00:36:03.000 That big tech is unfortunately, they're kind of starting to win a little bit is what it feels like at least.

00:36:09.000 Well, for the time being, probably.

00:36:11.000 And I think we need to change our description from big tech to big data companies.

00:36:16.000 These are data companies.

00:36:17.000 They're not tech companies in the sense that.

00:36:19.000 Okay, that's fair.

00:36:20.000 Well, no, it's actually, it's not on you.

00:36:21.000 It's just on, I just was thinking about this the other day because their whole model is just basically spying on people and then surveilling them and then selling products that you think they might like because you are actually the product.

00:36:33.000 You are.

00:36:33.000 If you're listening to this, you are being sold at an auction every single day.

00:36:38.000 And this is, this is a thing called surveillance capitalism.

00:36:41.000 And it's, and look, so one of the main reasons that this, all this has been happening is that data surpassed oil in value in 2017.

00:36:51.000 Give you an idea of that.

00:36:52.000 We are now a data-driven economy.

00:36:53.000 Now, what's the significance of that?

00:36:55.000 Well, the people who house the data, the people that surveil you, the people that are able to be able to organize that data, they're going to have all the advantage, right?

00:37:03.000 So Facebook has 5,000 individual pieces of information on every single person listening to this podcast.

00:37:09.000 And so these companies are more powerful.

00:37:11.000 They're more tyrannical than any other source of power than we have ever seen on the history of the planet.

00:37:17.000 And so what's ended up happening here is they've created this mirage.

00:37:21.000 They've created an illusion.

00:37:23.000 If you ever seen the movie The Illusionist, it's very similar to this, right?

00:37:26.000 So where they've created this something that is completely and totally artificial and fake in this fact, this fact-checking construction, where they act as if they're independent arbiters, when in reality, they are social justice warrior, BLM Incorporated, woke, transgender activist style activist, honestly, that go through and they say, oh, we're going to fact check because we're impartial.

00:37:50.000 No, you're not.

00:37:51.000 I have fought these people on things that are verified facts, that are publicly available information.

00:37:58.000 And they just, they decide to ding you on a technicality on something that they think it could be one word.

00:38:06.000 It could be in the description.

00:38:07.000 It could be in the, it could be in something that you say in the video that might for a great example is this, okay?

00:38:13.000 So I said that there was 1,776% increase in 90 plus year olds registering to vote in Pennsylvania.

00:38:22.000 It's 1,774.

00:38:24.000 I was off by 2%.

00:38:24.000 Okay.

00:38:25.000 It was on a live stream.

00:38:27.000 I had my numbers confused.

00:38:28.000 Was I lying to my audience?

00:38:30.000 Of course I wasn't.

00:38:31.000 I got one number wrong.

00:38:32.000 I was off by 2% on a variable of 1,774% versus 1,776%.

00:38:39.000 They decided to ding me as untrue.

00:38:41.000 Okay.

00:38:42.000 Again, that is so unbelievably pathological to do that.

00:38:45.000 You know exactly what I was saying.

00:38:47.000 And they could have sent me a message like, hey, next time do this or else we're going to ding you.

00:38:52.000 Instead, it's boom, here's a strike against your account. 0.72

00:38:54.000 We're going to demonetize you.

00:38:56.000 And so this is what they did to us.

00:38:59.000 Yeah, but I will say this, though.

00:39:00.000 And I'm starting to see a sea change, Graham.

00:39:02.000 I'm starting to see Republicans calling to regulate these companies.

00:39:05.000 Very good.

00:39:06.000 And I'm starting to see the entrepreneurial self-awareness that is uniquely American, not European, start to set in.

00:39:13.000 For example, I'm using this website called Rumble.

00:39:14.000 I didn't even heard about Rumble a month ago.

00:39:16.000 I got 140,000 subscribers on Rumble in one week.

00:39:20.000 I'm using Parlor more.

00:39:22.000 Parlor has some technical glitches, but I have 680,000 followers there.

00:39:26.000 I guess it's kind of good.

00:39:28.000 But the point is this.

00:39:29.000 And here's a really interesting thing is these tech companies actually all hate each other.

00:39:33.000 And you're starting to see all these tech companies act differently.

00:39:35.000 Let me give an example.

00:39:36.000 I've been live streaming uninterrupted all this voter fraud stuff.

00:39:41.000 Google has strangely left me alone in the last month.

00:39:44.000 Facebook has gone full Soviet.

00:39:47.000 Twitter has boosted my engagement. 0.90

00:39:50.000 I have more engagement than ever on Twitter.

00:39:52.000 So there is no rhyme or reason to what every tech company is doing.

00:39:55.000 Now, there will be a time where they all get on the same page probably and they do a great suppression.

00:40:00.000 That will only happen if we lose the Senate, though.

00:40:03.000 That sort of collusion is cartel practices.

00:40:06.000 We have laws against that stuff.

00:40:08.000 And so what I am saying, though, is that it's on the surface, very disturbing, somewhat depressing, but I'm starting to see a lot of different variables all of a sudden come on kind of the landscape here, kind of come on the chessboard that I think is very interesting.

00:40:23.000 And I actually think that we're going to have the better side of these tech companies in the next 18 months.

00:40:27.000 Yeah.

00:40:28.000 No, I agree.

00:40:28.000 Yeah.

00:40:30.000 And, you know, well, at least I hope.

00:40:32.000 And I just heard about Rumble myself.

00:40:34.000 I just created an account.

00:40:36.000 We're thinking about starting to put the podcast video only on Rumble, et cetera.

00:40:43.000 But I like, I really like, and like you said, the entrepreneurial conservatives are starting to get smarter, like, for example, owning the RSS feeds for our podcast and pushing more people there, et cetera, et cetera.

00:40:56.000 And one other thing before you say, we have to train our audience.

00:40:59.000 This is a really important thing, right?

00:41:00.000 So the more we talk about this and the more we make our audiences aware, like, hey, there might be a time where all of a sudden I might not exist on Facebook.

00:41:07.000 So please go subscribe on other platforms.

00:41:09.000 Please get ready for the silencing.

00:41:11.000 It does two things.

00:41:12.000 It makes the silencing less likely to happen because they love surprise attacks and they don't like the I told you so.

00:41:18.000 But if they actually end up doing it, our audience won't be shocked and it won't be a massive interruption to our distribution.

00:41:24.000 So what I tell content creators is diversify, post everywhere.

00:41:29.000 And all of a sudden, if you lose a vertical, okay, I still have five of six.

00:41:32.000 I know I'm not going to lose Parlor.

00:41:34.000 I know I'm not going to lose Rumble.

00:41:36.000 Okay, that's a good thing, right?

00:41:37.000 Not going to lose YouTube.

00:41:39.000 I hope not in the short term.

00:41:40.000 And I'm not going to lose my podcast feed.

00:41:42.000 So even if Facebook and Twitter and Dorsey and Zuckerberg came together and say, we hate this Charlie guy, let's digitally assassinate him.

00:41:50.000 My 1.5 million on Instagram, my 1 million on Facebook, not nearly your size, go away, that would be bad, right?

00:41:57.000 That would not be good.

00:41:58.000 That would be something that would be my life's work in that arena would be gone, but it wouldn't be catastrophic.

00:42:04.000 And that's what I'm, so we have to train our audiences.

00:42:08.000 So if you're listening to this, if I just disappear one day on a social media platform, you can find me in other places and make sure you reward us, Graham and us, by subscribing on our other feeds and getting behind us on alternative means of communication.

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00:43:43.000 Yeah, and absolutely.

00:43:45.000 I think that's a good point.

00:43:46.000 And all of this brings me into, like I said, me personally, in my mind, in my spirit, like I've been, I've been dealing with a lot here lately trying to figure out, okay, you know, this is great.

00:43:58.000 Breaking the internet's great.

00:43:59.000 You know, making, you know, I'm an entrepreneur.

00:44:02.000 I like money just like anybody else.

00:44:03.000 Making money is a great thing.

00:44:05.000 But getting the message out, what can I do?

00:44:09.000 Because these are things that I'm really starting to see that this isn't just a political battle anymore.

00:44:15.000 Full transparency.

00:44:16.000 I've been doing this for four years.

00:44:17.000 Four years ago, I didn't really know what I was doing.

00:44:20.000 Fast forward two years ago, I was starting to figure out, you know, politics a little bit.

00:44:25.000 And now I'm starting to realize that we are legitimately in what I believe is a spiritual war underneath the veil of politics.

00:44:32.000 That's what I believe it to be.

00:44:35.000 And so I've really been struggling with what can I do more than what I'm currently doing.

00:44:41.000 So, Charlie, I said I was going to play you a clip, but it's been brought to my attention that during the speech of the clip, that's actually what I want you to hear.

00:44:49.000 There's a lot of excess noise and cutscenes because it's a movie, right?

00:44:53.000 So have you ever seen the movie V for Vendetta?

00:44:55.000 Have you ever seen that movie?

00:44:56.000 It's a long time ago, but I'm familiar with the storyline and with the kind of aesthetic that the movie has, which is very, it's not cartoonish, but it has an aesthetic of kind of film noir almost exaggerated type blood and gore scenes.

00:45:15.000 Is that a correct way to describe it?

00:45:17.000 When he kills people in the movie, yes.

00:45:20.000 So it is based in London, okay?

00:45:22.000 Like the movie's based in London, but it is about this figure, and his name is V. And some people would consider him the villain.

00:45:32.000 Some people would consider him the patriot.

00:45:34.000 You know, it truly is whether or not it can be argued you're a Democrat or Republican, how you view the movie.

00:45:41.000 But either way, there's this scene in the movie, and I'm going to try to read you.

00:45:44.000 I actually found the speech online instead of just playing you the clip.

00:45:49.000 So they have a one-world media system in this world, and it is very tyrannical.

00:45:59.000 They call them the censors is what they call them, where if you say something you're not supposed to say against the Grand Chancellor, the censors come up, which can be argued the fact checkers today, etc.

00:46:10.000 So V ends up infiltrating the media company and he broadcast to the people.

00:46:17.000 And it shows these people that are literally locked in their homes because they don't leave their homes anymore.

00:46:22.000 Food is brought to them.

00:46:24.000 They're afraid of diseases, all these other kinds of things.

00:46:28.000 And here's some paragraphs that I want to run by you.

00:46:31.000 And you tell me if it's not creepy how prophetic sometimes movies can be and where we are right now.

00:46:40.000 So it's blah, for a couple of minutes.

00:46:44.000 And he starts talking about, okay, here we go.

00:46:47.000 I thought we could mark this November 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.

00:46:56.000 This is V talking to the people.

00:46:58.000 There are, of course, those who don't want us to speak.

00:47:02.000 I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones and men with guns will soon be on their way.

00:47:09.000 Why?

00:47:10.000 Because while the truchiny or the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.

00:47:18.000 Words offer the means to meaning.

00:47:20.000 And for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth.

00:47:24.000 And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with the country, isn't there?

00:47:30.000 Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression.

00:47:34.000 And where you once had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting their submission.

00:47:47.000 Here's the best part.

00:47:48.000 I know it's a little long, but bear with me.

00:47:50.000 How did this happen?

00:47:51.000 Who's to blame?

00:47:53.000 Well, certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable.

00:47:59.000 But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into the mirror.

00:48:05.000 I know why you did it.

00:48:06.000 I know why you were afraid.

00:48:08.000 Who wouldn't be?

00:48:09.000 War, terror, disease.

00:48:12.000 There were a maraud of problems conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense.

00:48:19.000 Fear got the best of you.

00:48:20.000 And then it goes on and on.

00:48:22.000 And there's another speech.

00:48:24.000 It goes a lot longer than that.

00:48:26.000 But are those words that were written in a movie that was supposed to be this far-fetched idea, never could have happened?

00:48:34.000 It's science fiction almost.

00:48:36.000 How eerily similar are those words that we find ourselves dealing with right now today?

00:48:44.000 Yeah, I mean, it's very similar.

00:48:46.000 Based on that, what you just said, I bet they were taking a lot of inspiration from Orwell in 1984, where there was a ministry of truth where there was a centralized command, and it was actually the exact opposite.

00:49:00.000 That was so ironic about it.

00:49:02.000 And that's where we get the ideas of double speak and double think, new speak, where they actually change language.

00:49:08.000 And yes, that's exactly where we are headed, if not there already.

00:49:13.000 And the part about looking in the mirror is exactly right.

00:49:18.000 And every single person listening to this podcast needs to take personal responsibility for the country that you want to live in.

00:49:24.000 I'm thinking of, and I don't want to give too much of a, you know, of a hand tilt to this of where I'm going, but there's a big chance, Graham, large chance that our generation will be the last Americans.

00:49:38.000 Yeah.

00:49:38.000 No, that's what we've been talking about literally every episode is the United States is a very young country.

00:49:47.000 To think that we can be the United States and things can stay the way they are for forever is naive at best.

00:49:56.000 Yeah, there's a chance that our generation will be the last generation ever to be Americans.

00:50:01.000 Hey, Charlie, I have a question.

00:50:03.000 This kind of fully encompasses what we've been talking about.

00:50:06.000 There's a quote.

00:50:07.000 You may actually know who said it, but I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.

00:50:13.000 I think it's Thomas Jefferson probably said that.

00:50:15.000 Thomas Jefferson.

00:50:16.000 Yeah.

00:50:16.000 And I feel like maybe even half the country believes that, and they would rather have the government take care of them than to risk their lives, whatever.

00:50:25.000 Well, there's definitely a portion that believes that.

00:50:28.000 Absolutely.

00:50:29.000 And part of my problem is, you know, I have friends on the left that I talk to occasionally.

00:50:33.000 And we're so polarized now that it worries me that even if we find fraud with the election, that these people won't care, that we're so divided that they would take the win, you know, cheating.

00:50:44.000 They would rather there not be war in the streets over a stolen election and just take it.

00:50:50.000 So what do we do long term?

00:50:52.000 You know, if Marxism, which I feel is the devil, you know, himself, how does it kill 100 million people and yet Americans still want it?

00:51:01.000 Like, how do we, where do we go from here, you know, in the future?

00:51:04.000 Because this election is one thing, but, you know, Marxism isn't going to die anytime soon.

00:51:08.000 No, it won't.

00:51:09.000 I mean, there's a lot of parts to that.

00:51:11.000 And there's an element to this.

00:51:16.000 Look, people do want to be taken care of.

00:51:18.000 Freedom is really impossible if you do not have a spiritual aspect connected to it.

00:51:24.000 So the godless secular humanists, they teach a type of freedom that is self-indulgent and is quite honestly a form of slavery.

00:51:33.000 And so without the, you're asking what is the roadmap? 0.84

00:51:38.000 It's very complex.

00:51:40.000 And we are now in fighting times.

00:51:42.000 We are in a soft revolutionary period.

00:51:45.000 I call it the post-institutional period in America, where people don't trust any institutions in America that are telling them what to do, what to say, how to think, what to eat, how to vote, who counts the votes, what to buy stuff from.

00:51:57.000 We're now in a post-institutional period, which is a very dangerous moment if not handled correctly, but very exciting if handled correctly.

00:52:04.000 And so let me be very clear.

00:52:05.000 If we do our job, it could be America's best century we've ever had.

00:52:08.000 If we don't do our job, we're all done.

00:52:10.000 And so because the New York Times and because the CDC and Dr. Anthony Fauci and Wall Street bankers and big data, because we don't trust them, all of a sudden there's a massive opportunity to fill that void.

00:52:24.000 There's a huge opportunity on this barren wasteland of what we call the institutional kind of terrain to build anew and to build, support, and defend the good guys.

00:52:34.000 However, we don't do our job, then all of a sudden really, really bad actors will only kind of resurrect these forces and we'll be in a lot of trouble.

00:52:41.000 Here's what I will say, though, is kind of this idea of freedom not being, freedom not being a predominant viewpoint.

00:52:49.000 It's true, though.

00:52:50.000 People would much rather be taken care of than actually have to take care of themselves.

00:52:54.000 The only reason why freedom in this country existed in any way that it did is because there was a faith backstop.

00:53:01.000 Faith, and because of the laws of the Old Testament in particular that we take for granted in the West, is the only thing that prevents you from using that short-term freedom into an absolute reckless endangerment exercise where you end up screwing up your life miserably.

00:53:19.000 And Galatians 3 talks about this is that the law is a school teacher.

00:53:23.000 It's a guardian.

00:53:24.000 That if you follow the laws of Moses and then you point you to Christ, then all of a sudden you're going to live a pretty good life.

00:53:30.000 Not only that, you'll be able to replicate yourself and replicate the country.

00:53:34.000 You forsake that, all of a sudden your country will disintegrate that, which is exactly disintegrate, which is what we're seeing right now.

00:53:40.000 And I'll say this as this is your Thanksgiving episode.

00:53:43.000 If you're not thankful for the country you live in and you're angry that you live in this country, well, then that's the problem as well.

00:53:50.000 Yep.

00:53:50.000 No, no, no, I agree.

00:53:52.000 And to your point of what you're saying, a lot of people argue that during the free love movement and things like that, that's where we started down the road.

00:54:01.000 And it takes about two or three generations for it to really take hold, right?

00:54:07.000 So, you know, a lot of people say that.

00:54:10.000 Let's finish this out, Charlie.

00:54:11.000 I know your time is valuable.

00:54:13.000 I want to read you one more thing.

00:54:14.000 And like I said, man, I'm not pro-inciting violence or pro-Civil War or anything like that.

00:54:24.000 However, everyone needs a hill to die on.

00:54:28.000 And we talk about this all the time.

00:54:29.000 Everybody, man, you've got to have something that you say no more.

00:54:36.000 Make us.

00:54:37.000 I keep saying that.

00:54:38.000 Charlie, have you ever heard the First They Came poem?

00:54:41.000 Have you ever heard that?

00:54:42.000 Of course.

00:54:43.000 Yeah.

00:54:43.000 So I'm going to read it for the audience, just in case any of the audience hasn't heard it.

00:54:48.000 And okay, so it goes like this.

00:54:50.000 First they came for the socialist, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist.

00:54:57.000 Then they came for the trade unionist, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. 0.92

00:55:03.000 Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. 0.97

00:55:08.000 Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me. 0.92

00:55:14.000 So, my challenge to conservatives right now, I would argue to say that there are people that are coming for conservatives right now.

00:55:22.000 My biggest thing, I've said this time and time again, Charlie, me and you have talked at many college campuses.

00:55:27.000 I know you've heard me say this, that my biggest issue with the conservatives in general, especially the Christian conservatives, is this idea of just keep your head down, go to work, mind your own business, let the crazy people talk, and everything will be okay.

00:55:41.000 Well, it didn't turn out okay.

00:55:43.000 Social media changed all that.

00:55:44.000 The crazy people got louder and louder and louder, and the younger generation started to believe it.

00:55:49.000 Conservatives today, you are seeing them come for us every single day.

00:55:56.000 You are seeing this.

00:55:57.000 You are seeing the attack against free speech.

00:56:00.000 You're seeing Trump supporters getting beaten at a peaceful protest at the Million MAGA March.

00:56:05.000 You are seeing these things.

00:56:07.000 You are seeing governors say that you can't go outside because the virus is too deadly and you can't go to church and worship.

00:56:13.000 But if the LA Lakers win, it doesn't matter.

00:56:19.000 If we continue to not speak and not say anything, who's going to be left to defend everyone else once they take all the rest of us out?

00:56:31.000 Well, that's a question too.

00:56:32.000 Charlie, what do you think?

00:56:34.000 No one.

00:56:34.000 I mean, that's where we're headed.

00:56:36.000 And the Eat Me Last coalition of moderate Republicans and Democrats that think they also won't be censored and kicked off the internet and punished is just a foolish position to have.

00:56:47.000 And so, look, this has to be our big moment.

00:56:50.000 This has to be the moment where we civilly disobey.

00:56:54.000 We stand for speech, but we also have to get really, here's, I'll close with this.

00:56:58.000 And I think both of us got a run here, which is that there's this irresistible urge at times in internet culture to want to mock, ridicule, and destroy any podcaster or any person that has any form of success or any pundit or whatever it might be.

00:57:14.000 And you and I have both experienced this.

00:57:16.000 And as conservatives, there's kind of this very quiet, silent snickering when another conservative kind of gets attacked at times.

00:57:25.000 And this is a really important teaching moment where why don't we spend more energy building each other up like what we're doing right now, going on each other's podcasts, sharing each other's content, because there's going to be a moment where we're all going to need each other.

00:57:38.000 And that moment's now coming right now when they start, because there might be a time where you might be stronger on a certain platform than me and vice versa.

00:57:45.000 And we're going to need each other.

00:57:46.000 And for the audience watching, stop spending your social media energy going after and trying to wish harm amongst people that have some form of success because there's this really cynical, nihilistic behavior that's happening right now on the internet over the last couple of years, where anyone that's doing well in life, there must be some way to destroy them.

00:58:07.000 And let's do the opposite.

00:58:08.000 Let's build up the good guys.

00:58:09.000 Let's support the heroes.

00:58:11.000 Let's support podcasts like both of ours and get behind people that are brave enough to tell the truth.

00:58:16.000 And then all of a sudden, you'll see that tide, I think, actually change.

00:58:19.000 Yeah.

00:58:20.000 And to close it out after that, it's hard to follow that, but be thankful that you live in the greatest country in the world.

00:58:27.000 And let's, well, let's try to keep it that way.

00:58:30.000 If we can go that route, Charlie, man, thanks so much for joining us.

00:58:35.000 Everyone, every single person listening right now, you need to go to the Charlie Kirk.

00:58:41.000 You need to go subscribe to his podcast, Charlie Kirk, right now.

00:58:44.000 It's super simple.

00:58:45.000 You just type C-H-A and it pops up.

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00:58:48.000 So, Charlie, thanks so much.

00:58:50.000 God bless, man.

00:58:51.000 Happy Thanksgiving.

00:58:52.000 Thank you, brother.

00:58:53.000 You as well.

00:58:56.000 Have a great Thanksgiving, everyone.

00:58:57.000 If you want to come down to our big gathering in Palm Beach, go to tpusa.com/slash SAS.

00:59:03.000 Please consider emailing us your question, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:59:06.000 And have a blessed day.

00:59:08.000 Thanks so much.

00:59:08.000 Talk to you soon.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 26, 2020

Thanksgiving LOCKDOWN & A New Republican Party with Graham Allen

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