The Charlie Kirk Show - The 1619 Lie, Systemic Racism Debunked, and America’s Foundation of Freedoms with Congressman Bob McEwan And Pastor Rob McCoy

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00:01:07.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:40.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:41.000 Welcome to this incredible episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:44.000 I am joined by two dear friends of mine that I've known for quite some time and have been through some fun things together.

00:01:51.000 Amen.

00:01:51.000 Congressman Bob McEwen from Ohio.

00:01:54.000 That's right, Charlie.

00:01:55.000 Great to be with you.

00:01:56.000 Rob McCoy.

00:01:57.000 Congressman McEwen is currently running Council for National Policy.

00:02:01.000 CNP.

00:02:02.000 And Pastor Rob McCoy is America's pastor and has kept his church open despite all the lockdowns.

00:02:02.000 CNP.

00:02:08.000 We are going to get into a lot of stuff.

00:02:09.000 But first, Congressman, introduce yourself to our audience.

00:02:12.000 Well, it's a delight to be here.

00:02:14.000 I'm a fan of yours, Charlie.

00:02:15.000 And during this critical time when people are questioning about what America is or where it's headed, I think it's appropriate just to stop and ask, why is America different from someplace else?

00:02:25.000 4% of the population of the world call themselves Americans.

00:02:29.000 Amen. 0.54

00:02:30.000 And yet every year, they write more books, more plays, more symphonies, more copyrights, inventions for thousands of years people would hope to someday fly.

00:02:36.000 It was the Americans that invented the airplane and the light bulb and the telegraph, the telephone, the global positioning system.

00:02:44.000 Put men on the moon. 0.70

00:02:45.000 Right now, there's a ship parking in the Hong Kong harbor using a global positioning system conceived, invented, and maintained by Americans.

00:02:53.000 A Mercedes dealer in Buenos Aires is ordering a part in Stuttgart using an internet conceived, invented, and maintained. 0.74

00:03:01.000 No nation in the world has ever blessed the world like America does.

00:03:06.000 4%.

00:03:07.000 And yet it is that which secures the rest of the world. 0.53

00:03:11.000 You know, for hundreds of years, the Britannia ruled the waves.

00:03:17.000 When a British ship was overrun in the Persian Gulf, as happened over 300 times last year, where can a ship or a person turn on the high seas?

00:03:27.000 Only to the 327,000 Americans that wear the uniform of the United States Navy.

00:03:31.000 The United States is a standard for righteousness and stability in the world.

00:03:35.000 I got you.

00:03:35.000 And it's been entrusted to us.

00:03:37.000 And if we dare let somebody else take it, it is those that hate freedom, those that hate abundance, want to destroy our country.

00:03:47.000 And now you and I have to make sure that that doesn't happen.

00:03:50.000 I get stretch marks on my brain every time I'm in his presence.

00:03:54.000 I love being with you, Bob.

00:03:55.000 It's an honor to be with you, Rob.

00:03:57.000 So is America a racist country?

00:04:00.000 You know, you ask the question that everyone has to address.

00:04:04.000 That is, if America is so terrible, why is it that everybody wants to come here? 1.00

00:04:09.000 America accepts more immigrants than the rest of the world combined. 1.00

00:04:14.000 You talk about refugees, more refugees than the entire rest of the world.

00:04:18.000 I met with some Iranian folks, and they were quoting the New York Times about how America was closing its doors.

00:04:24.000 We take more than the entire rest of the planet.

00:04:27.000 Why would people come to a place that was racist?

00:04:29.000 Why is it that over 90% of the people that come here are people, quote, of color? 0.98

00:04:34.000 If America even thought about doing such things, those people aren't foolish. 0.92

00:04:39.000 They've learned that if they want to accuse America of something, they can deny some special privilege.

00:04:44.000 If I'm doing something wrong and you catch me, I immediately want to point to something else.

00:04:49.000 And for those that are trying to undo our country, they, rather than face what they've done about burning down a building or stealing from someone else, they want to point over their shoulder to while you're looking there, they grab your wallet and run.

00:05:02.000 Of course, America is not a racist country.

00:05:05.000 It's the most, I tell you this.

00:05:08.000 Find any place on the planet where ethnicities live as cooperatively as they do in America.

00:05:17.000 It is the example for the rest of the planet.

00:05:20.000 My daughter spent a year in Rwanda.

00:05:22.000 Those folks, you cannot tell them apart. 0.70

00:05:24.000 80% are Hutu, 20% are Tutsi. 1.00

00:05:27.000 When 80% voted to kill the other 20%, they chopped a million people to death with machetes. 0.95

00:05:32.000 But it's estimated that a fourth of the people that they killed were really Hutus. 0.79

00:05:37.000 Now, that's what the rest of the world is like when it doesn't have the freedom of respect for life that comes from respect for God, which is what America is. 0.86

00:05:48.000 So you bring up 80% decided to kill the 20%.

00:05:52.000 Let's go to this direction. 0.99

00:05:53.000 In less than a year.

00:05:54.000 Less than a year.

00:05:55.000 90 days with machetes, not with sophisticated ovens.

00:05:55.000 In 90 days.

00:05:58.000 So you're talking about the Rwandan genocide.

00:06:01.000 Is that correct?

00:06:03.000 Kids do not know about this.

00:06:04.000 They're not taught it in schools.

00:06:05.000 Let's walk through some of the history, then I have a follow-up question about it.

00:06:08.000 Well, there's a reason why people come to America.

00:06:12.000 And what makes America different?

00:06:14.000 Number one is our rights do not come from the majority.

00:06:17.000 In other words, we're not a democracy.

00:06:19.000 In a democracy, rights come from the majority.

00:06:22.000 Whoever has the most votes.

00:06:23.000 I was just writing, are we a democracy?

00:06:25.000 Well, a democracy.

00:06:26.000 You totally obliterated my follow-up question.

00:06:30.000 And you say, what is a democracy?

00:06:32.000 You mean when George Bush says the word democracy, we're not really a democracy?

00:06:35.000 Well, we use the term democracy because we elect people, but in a democracy, the rule of law is established by the majority.

00:06:43.000 And America is unique and different to the rest of the world because our rights do not come from the majority.

00:06:48.000 That's why the word democracy does not exist in any of our founding documents.

00:06:52.000 They despised it.

00:06:53.000 Nor any of the 50 constitutions of the 50 states.

00:06:57.000 Our rights do not come from the majority.

00:06:57.000 Why?

00:06:59.000 They come from God.

00:07:01.000 And as on the Jefferson Memorial, the God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time.

00:07:09.000 So you see the sequence: that if you want to take a person's liberty, you have to get rid of God.

00:07:15.000 Once you've gotten rid of God, then I can take your life.

00:07:17.000 And once I can take away life, then any politician, any politician that will take away innocent life will not hesitate to take your liberty.

00:07:28.000 There it is.

00:07:29.000 And so when you ask the question, that's who they are.

00:07:31.000 So are we one of those? 1.00

00:07:32.000 No, you can vote in America 95 to 5 to kill Jews. 1.00

00:07:37.000 So what? 0.98

00:07:38.000 It can't happen because in America, our rights come from God who protects life, and we're the only place.

00:07:43.000 So Jews knew they could be chased from all over the planet if they could just get under the canopy of protection of the American flag, that they would be safe.

00:07:51.000 And they are, and they do.

00:07:52.000 Amen.

00:07:54.000 I'm sitting back and I told you this guy is a storehouse of knowledge.

00:07:58.000 And you declared that he's one of the most underutilized men in America.

00:08:03.000 I'm sitting with the two most underutilized players in the conservative bench.

00:08:07.000 You're half right, but I will tell you, just sitting here.

00:08:10.000 It's a double right.

00:08:11.000 Well, I appreciate that.

00:08:12.000 But Charlie, you and I are both.

00:08:14.000 I'm just blown away.

00:08:15.000 Seriously, I just want to get out of the way.

00:08:17.000 I'm a flying audience.

00:08:17.000 I'm a wild color commentary.

00:08:18.000 How about that?

00:08:19.000 I'm happy to do that.

00:08:20.000 So, Bob, this is a very important point you're making because even some conservatives at times have said a couple things recently.

00:08:27.000 Number one, we're not going to say any names.

00:08:29.000 I never do that, but we can talk generally.

00:08:31.000 Some have written extensive opinion articles saying America's a racist, systemically racist country, founded in 1619.

00:08:38.000 I want you to address the 1619 lie.

00:08:41.000 But before you do, can you please also just build out more why it's dangerous for us to accept the idea that we're a democracy?

00:08:50.000 What makes a democracy and a republic different?

00:08:53.000 In a democracy, rights.

00:08:57.000 I remember when we went to vote on Obamacare, Pelosi took the well of the House and she grabbed the podium on the Democrat side and she said, Today, we are going to create a right to health care.

00:09:11.000 And her side all clapped and cheered.

00:09:13.000 Well, just gently, let's think about that. 1.00

00:09:16.000 If politicians can create a right, politicians can do away with a right.

00:09:25.000 And that's what had our founders so afraid that if we allow the mob to decide that one day they get mad at folks of a particular color or a particular ethnicity, and we want to take their rights or religion or religion, and so we want to protect them from that.

00:09:42.000 And so they very carefully crafted the place that, as I mentioned, this little 4% of the population of the world created more wealth than the other 96% combined throughout all recorded history.

00:09:53.000 Now, why?

00:09:54.000 Why is that?

00:09:55.000 Well, it's because we recognize that God gave it to us.

00:09:58.000 Well, I want to tag on what Charlie was saying, and you did a wonderful insight when I heard you.

00:10:04.000 I've heard you speak a number of times.

00:10:06.000 But you speak of this idea of a democracy and a constitutional republic.

00:10:11.000 And, of course, as I've heard Eric Metaxas say, quoting Ben Franklin, when the woman asked him, what kind of government have you given us?

00:10:18.000 And a republic, madam, if you can keep it.

00:10:20.000 And you have this unbelievable ability to recount what occurred in the Constitutional Convention because America had come up to a conflict.

00:10:29.000 They had examined all of the different forms of government throughout history.

00:10:33.000 And here they were at a problem with 13 colonies, some of them slaveholding, some of them more populated than others.

00:10:41.000 And they were wanting equal representation.

00:10:43.000 But there was an argument taking place, and they came up with one of the most remarkable resolutions to it by a bicameral legislature.

00:10:51.000 But that occurred with Ben Franklin in the midst of it all.

00:10:55.000 Can you recount that for the listeners?

00:10:57.000 Well, Benjamin Franklin actually was considered the most respected man on earth and most admired all over the place.

00:11:04.000 He had a signature on the first three documents: the Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution, and the Paris Peace Agreement.

00:11:09.000 And incredibly, the one guy we haven't made movies about.

00:11:11.000 But go ahead, go ahead.

00:11:12.000 And he had gout, too, which that's the only way I can relate to him.

00:11:15.000 But go ahead and thanks.

00:11:16.000 Well, and he was in his 80s, and he was one of only four people that had been there at the signing of the Declaration of Independence that were also in Constitutional Hall.

00:11:26.000 Now, let me just say where we are, and that is that at the end of the Revolutionary War, there was no government, therefore there was no way to pay people.

00:11:36.000 And so they were trying to figure out a way to do that.

00:11:39.000 And so they created the Northwest Territory, which is where Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and Minnesota and Michigan are from.

00:11:45.000 And they gave land grants.

00:11:47.000 And in there, it said the land north of the Ohio River, but there shall be unanimously, there shall be no slavery.

00:11:53.000 Unanimously, they said now, and immediately some folks from the southern states said, oh, I see what's coming.

00:11:59.000 And they voted for it.

00:12:00.000 But he said, but I see that.

00:12:01.000 If I convince them to submit so that they're going to have New Yorkers and people from Massachusetts and Pennsylvania making decisions for them, that's going to be a hard sell.

00:12:10.000 But if I also tell them that they absolutely cannot have slavery, they're going to have to do away with it tomorrow, I can't sell both of those, and so this isn't going to work.

00:12:20.000 That's question number one.

00:12:22.000 The other part is that half of the country lived in five in three states, half the country lived in 10 states.

00:12:27.000 50% lived in three, 50% lived in 10.

00:12:30.000 The 10 aren't going to be dictated by the three, and vice versa.

00:12:33.000 So the thing began to break apart.

00:12:35.000 That's all there is to it.

00:12:36.000 It's now gone on for six weeks.

00:12:38.000 And they began to, George Mason, who was George Washington's next-door neighbor and best friend, he started to leave.

00:12:44.000 Washington walked along the side of his carriage, pleading with him to stay.

00:12:50.000 This chance might not come again.

00:12:52.000 And Mason said, George, I can't sit around and talk about politics all summer.

00:12:56.000 I've got other things to do.

00:12:56.000 He said, no, just try.

00:12:58.000 And so they were able to corral him back again into that same room where 11 years earlier they had written the Declaration of Independence.

00:13:05.000 And that is the first time that Benjamin Franklin asked to speak.

00:13:09.000 When he got up to speak, he was very well respected.

00:13:12.000 And so everybody began to listen.

00:13:13.000 He said, Mr. President, he said, I'm an old man.

00:13:17.000 But one thing I have learned is that God governs in the affairs of men.

00:13:23.000 And if a sparrow cannot fall without his notice, is it probable that an empire could rise without his aid?

00:13:28.000 He said, we've been instructed in the sacred writings, except the Lord built the house.

00:13:31.000 They labor in vain to build it. 0.76

00:13:32.000 Well, I believe this, that we shall be no more successful in the building of this political building than were the builders of Babel.

00:13:38.000 He said, in the conflict with Great Britain, we had daily prayer in this room.

00:13:43.000 Our prayers were heard, and they were graciously answered.

00:13:47.000 And then he said, have we now forgotten this powerful friend?

00:13:52.000 Or do we imagine we no longer need him?

00:13:55.000 He said, and then he went through and made some more references, and then he asked to move that they recess and begin each session then with prayer.

00:14:04.000 One of the things that he mentioned, Rob, as you said, he said, we've looked at all of the forms of government around the planet.

00:14:12.000 Now, why is that important?

00:14:14.000 Wisdom is proper use of knowledge.

00:14:18.000 Yes.

00:14:19.000 So knowledge is good, but wisdom is the proper use of knowledge.

00:14:22.000 You can teach a 10-year-old how to drive.

00:14:24.000 Why do you not throw your keys to the 10-year-old?

00:14:26.000 Why?

00:14:26.000 Because he lacks wisdom, the proper use of the knowledge.

00:14:30.000 Now, wisdom comes from two sources.

00:14:32.000 Wisdom comes from experience, your own or someone else's.

00:14:35.000 So you learn from your elders and by reading books and things.

00:14:39.000 But there are some things we've never experienced before.

00:14:42.000 And so the scripture says that if any man lack wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all men liberally, and he doesn't scold us for asking.

00:14:51.000 So Benjamin Franklin said, we've looked at all of the forms of government that have existed, each one having their flaws.

00:14:58.000 None of them were applicable to our situation.

00:15:00.000 He said, in this situation, crawling around in the darkness, no one has decided to call upon the Father of lights.

00:15:08.000 In other words, we've been here in the dark.

00:15:09.000 Nobody's flipped on the lights.

00:15:12.000 He said, so then he said, let's ask God for his guidance, as the scripture said.

00:15:17.000 Once they did that, they began over the next five and a half weeks to write the Constitution of the United States, creating the oldest government on the planet.

00:15:29.000 Well, the oldest government under one birth certificate.

00:15:32.000 Every government on earth has changed repeatedly since then.

00:15:36.000 We have one of the youngest countries, but the oldest government.

00:15:40.000 Everyone has made a judgment since then, and yet it's been available as a template for anyone else, but they haven't used it.

00:15:46.000 And that nation is the one that has prospered as no other nation has.

00:15:50.000 Now, that's the competition that they want to destroy.

00:15:54.000 Now, let me just say also about Benjamin Franklin.

00:15:57.000 I remember one time after I was speaking, a fellow wrote to me a note, and he mentioned that he had 54 children out of wedlock.

00:16:06.000 And now, just stop and think about that for a moment.

00:16:09.000 The absurdity of such a statement is beyond comprehension.

00:16:12.000 But the fact is that if I want to destroy something and I want to convince you that you're wrong, that you use the wrong toothpaste, for example, as Bill Federer mentions, first of all, I can't just say, you need to have my toothpaste.

00:16:25.000 I need to say, you know, that toothpaste that you use is really making your teeth yellow.

00:16:29.000 It's not very attractive.

00:16:31.000 And once I convince you that, then you're open.

00:16:33.000 Then once you're open, now I can say, you've got to try what I have.

00:16:36.000 And so when America obviously went from nowhere, absolutely poor people.

00:16:41.000 People did not sell their castles, get in their clipper ships, and come to America to eke out an existence of the forest.

00:16:46.000 The people that came here were poor.

00:16:48.000 They had nothing except freedom and opportunity and became the richest, most powerful nation on earth.

00:16:53.000 So when they did that, they said, how can we undo that?

00:16:58.000 There's only one way.

00:16:59.000 I have to convince them that they were evil.

00:17:02.000 And so after World War I, they began this idea of deconstructing our founders.

00:17:08.000 We can find no reference to promiscuity on the part of Benjamin Franklin prior to 1920.

00:17:14.000 And once they began to build that idea that somehow began to no longer respect them, and then they could begin to do what they're doing now.

00:17:23.000 Charlie wants to jump on something real quick, but I just want you to emphasize this.

00:17:26.000 When they came back from three days of fasting and prayer at the Constitutional Convention, they came up with that brilliant idea of the bicameral legislature.

00:17:33.000 Can you explain that to the folks, why it was so significant?

00:17:36.000 Well, how do you have a legislature and represent everybody equally fairly because everybody wants to be equal?

00:17:41.000 And so they said, well, why don't we do that?

00:17:42.000 And you can jump in the Electoral College on this, too, if you want.

00:17:45.000 Yeah, they said, so, all right, if all of you want to be equal, then every state's going to be equal.

00:17:48.000 We're going to have a Senate.

00:17:50.000 Everybody's going to be treated equally.

00:17:51.000 Are you happy about that?

00:17:52.000 Okay, fine.

00:17:53.000 What about the large states?

00:17:54.000 All right, we're going to create a House of Representatives, and they're going to be based upon the number of people in each state.

00:17:58.000 And the two of you are going to have to agree before it goes to the president for him to sign.

00:18:02.000 And if the three of you all agree, then you can make a law.

00:18:04.000 I said, all right, that's fine.

00:18:05.000 But what about slavery?

00:18:06.000 Well, all right, I understand that.

00:18:08.000 We're not going to have slavery, that's for sure.

00:18:10.000 But if you're going to have to sell it, we can't sell it all at once.

00:18:13.000 So here's what we're going to do.

00:18:14.000 We're going to put in the Constitution that no one, when they all get together and start to come after you, you can't do that for 20 years.

00:18:23.000 That is, for the 20 years, you cannot prevent the importation of slaves. 0.52

00:18:27.000 And so, when was that?

00:18:28.000 1787.

00:18:29.000 Well, 10 years is 1797, 10 years, 1807.

00:18:33.000 So on the first day that America could prohibit slavery, an example to the world was on January 1st, 1808.

00:18:40.000 And that law was written in March of 1807, signed by the President of the United States, Thomas Jefferson, who said, we're going to end the slave trade.

00:18:48.000 That is, no one can bring any slaves into America.

00:18:50.000 It's going to atrophy, and we're going to destroy it.

00:18:53.000 Now, the founders, George Washington and these folks that were born into the slave situation, prior to them, all the way back to the beginning of Scripture, for thousands of years, slavery was everywhere.

00:19:03.000 Every culture.

00:19:04.000 It was ubiquitous.

00:19:06.000 It was everywhere.

00:19:07.000 These men, these men that we've seen the statues abused over these last recent weeks, people like Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, George Washington, these men decided that they were going to do something that had never been done, and that is that they were going to end slavery.

00:19:22.000 And from then until today, slavery has been anathema.

00:19:26.000 Now, throughout 14 of the 18 largest countries with slavery to this day are on the African continent, and there are places in the Middle East that still have slavery.

00:19:36.000 But it's been an anathema.

00:19:38.000 It's been hated because these men, these men, ended slavery as an option and created free enterprise.

00:19:46.000 Now, there are those that didn't like that.

00:19:47.000 And brother, they kicked and screamed, and we had to have a war to end it.

00:19:50.000 And then they tried to do it.

00:19:51.000 We had to amend the Constitution.

00:19:53.000 And to this day, they're still doing it.

00:19:54.000 And it always has been.

00:19:55.000 But that was not.

00:19:57.000 America did.

00:19:57.000 America didn't do that.

00:19:59.000 A handful of people that are in a certain part.

00:20:01.000 I want to make sure I'm getting this right.

00:20:03.000 So 1787, there was a law that was passed in the Constitution, you're saying?

00:20:07.000 It's in the Constitution.

00:20:09.000 For a 20-year ban on slavery.

00:20:11.000 It said that you couldn't import slaves.

00:20:14.000 They didn't use the term slave.

00:20:15.000 My memory doesn't serve me for that part of the Constitution.

00:20:18.000 So then you're saying in 1807, President Thomas Jefferson, third American president, the expansionist and also the author of the Declaration, he signed a bill of Congress in March of 1807 to be effective in 1808 to ban the import of slaves.

00:20:34.000 And did that go into effect?

00:20:36.000 Yes, it did.

00:20:36.000 So even for the southern states.

00:20:38.000 So the slave trade ended on but the slave practice continued for the next couple decades.

00:20:42.000 Pardon me.

00:20:43.000 The importation of slaves ended on January 1st, 1808 in America. 0.60

00:20:47.000 That was the first nation for the world to set the example. 0.81

00:20:47.000 Wow. 0.81

00:20:50.000 And quite frankly, everything was going fine.

00:20:53.000 Slavery was atrophying.

00:20:55.000 It was about to die.

00:20:56.000 And then we get back to it.

00:20:57.000 And that is in the.

00:20:59.000 Yeah, that's really interesting, Bob.

00:21:01.000 I haven't heard it explained like that because I just think at times, oh, yeah, the Civil Wars basically was the moment it all kind of came to a head.

00:21:10.000 What you're saying, and I've said this before, that Vermont was the first state to abolish slavery in 1777 because they were inspired by the writings.

00:21:17.000 But Thomas Jefferson, even as someone who owned slaves himself, signed a bill that said no more imports of slaves. 0.67

00:21:23.000 Correct. 0.80

00:21:24.000 And of course, if you turn slaves out, they would be on their own.

00:21:28.000 They would have to buy property and provide for themselves.

00:21:31.000 And so that transition was complicated.

00:21:33.000 And the compassionate was that many of them left their estates to them so that when they died, then they were given their freedom along with the money that they had to get.

00:21:40.000 So basically.

00:21:41.000 Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1 is what Bob's referring to.

00:21:45.000 Awesome.

00:21:46.000 So in the Constitution was already a provision for the sunset of slavery. 0.74

00:21:49.000 Right.

00:21:50.000 And so then it was atrophying.

00:21:52.000 It was almost all done until the most important.

00:21:54.000 So one of the most important elections in our history was in 1828.

00:21:57.000 So we should be unapologetic as conservatives and constitutionals and Americans.

00:22:01.000 Oh, as Americans.

00:22:03.000 It wasn't even that much of an evolution.

00:22:05.000 It was we had put the plan in place to get rid of this thousand-year sinful practice.

00:22:11.000 And the three-fifths compromise was part of that.

00:22:13.000 And it was happening.

00:22:14.000 And three-fifths came later.

00:22:15.000 Well, no, three-fifths was in there for that purpose because here was the fight.

00:22:19.000 But we got attacked as three-fifths saying that it was subhuman, but it was actually a better deal for those of us that want full dignity.

00:22:27.000 So they couldn't have representation in the U.S.

00:22:30.000 And here's the thing: those of us who are progenitive did not want slavery.

00:22:36.000 We said those are people.

00:22:38.000 And so therefore, if they're people, then they need to be given their independence.

00:22:43.000 So the South said, no, we don't want them to be independent.

00:22:45.000 And so therefore, we don't want to count them as people.

00:22:48.000 And said, well, if that happens, then we wouldn't have as many people in the Congress.

00:22:54.000 They said, no, here's what we want.

00:22:55.000 We want to count them as people, but we don't want to be considered His people.

00:23:00.000 And so now you've got that dilemma.

00:23:02.000 And so the North said, if you want to count them completely, then you need to give them their freedom.

00:23:07.000 And so the compromise was that they would be counted as three-fifths.

00:23:10.000 Why did they want to count them as completely?

00:23:12.000 Because they wanted to have more and more representatives to make sure that they had more people in Congress. 0.76

00:23:16.000 The North wanted to be counted as zero until such time as they got their freedom.

00:23:20.000 And so that was the compromise to get them to, and they were progressing well until in the election of 1828 is when the most anti-slavery president in the history of the United States.

00:23:30.000 This is critical.

00:23:31.000 John Quincy Adams was defeated by a man from the West, from over the mountain, the first genuine slave trader, a man who bought slaves in New Orleans and came up and sold them along the Tennessee River, a man by the name of Andrew Jackson, came in and ripped that apart and made a compromise in 1833 to bring in a slave state and Maine and to make a compromise whereby we bring a slave state and a free state and still have the balance in the Senate.

00:24:01.000 And with that, tore the scab off of the scar and began to ooze the chaos that took place.

00:24:08.000 And from then on, from Andrew Jackson from 1828, he took office in 1829.

00:24:14.000 So from 1830 to 1860, that 30-year period is known as the Jacksonian era.

00:24:19.000 And they stacked the Supreme Court.

00:24:21.000 And during the Jacksonian era, that is when the Democrat Party and the Whigs fought back and forth.

00:24:27.000 The Whigs did not want to have slavery at all.

00:24:29.000 The Democrat Party wanted to have slavery.

00:24:31.000 And so they alternated back and forth until finally, in 1857, when James Buchanan took office in March of 1857, the next week, the Supreme Court made a ruling that was written by Roger Taney.

00:24:47.000 Roger Taney was Andrew Jackson's campaign manager and his attorney general.

00:24:55.000 And Andrew Jackson put him on the Supreme Court. 0.77

00:24:58.000 So in the Supreme Court, then he wrote the Dred Scott decision, which said that black people are not people. 0.92

00:25:07.000 They're property. 0.96

00:25:08.000 They can be bought and sold like furniture.

00:25:09.000 They are chattel.

00:25:11.000 And with that, the whole, the Whig Party, the Whig Party, which was made up of those people with no backbone, I could name some people that we currently have.

00:25:22.000 And they said this.

00:25:24.000 They said, well, okay, we can't argue about this anymore.

00:25:27.000 It's time to move on.

00:25:28.000 The court has spoken.

00:25:29.000 This is the way it is.

00:25:30.000 Don't talk. 0.95

00:25:31.000 We can't talk about abortion. 0.74

00:25:32.000 It's time to move on. 0.78

00:25:33.000 Time to move on.

00:25:34.000 And the American people said, no, You got it all wrong.

00:25:41.000 And in a matter of about 24 months, the Whig party disappeared.

00:25:45.000 The Republican Party erupted for the purpose of ending slavery. 0.73

00:25:51.000 Can I jump in real quick?

00:25:55.000 1857, which isn't part, you do know this part of history, but it's not one that's going to be taught in history books.

00:26:02.000 But in 1857, it was one of the great awakenings in America spiritually.

00:26:05.000 Jeremiah Lamphere, second floor of the Dutch Reformed Church in New York, starts a prayer service that Horace Greeley, the newspaper editor, he sent out a reporter to try to see how many of these had grown across New York and across the country.

00:26:19.000 And with the traffic and everything, he had estimated over 100,000 people every noon were gathering for prayer, and it created one of the greatest revivals in less than a year in a nation of, what, 30 million people, over a million came to faith in Christ, which ushers in this conviction of like Josiah Wedgwood and all of these folks starting to realize that these are human beings.

00:26:40.000 We need to push back.

00:26:42.000 So it gives a spiritual backbone to the, because Charlie, as you always say, politics is downstream from culture.

00:26:50.000 So as the church engages in this critical issue of slavery and Imago Day, the image of God and man, and Josiah Wedgwood, am I not a man?

00:27:02.000 I'm a man, not a slave.

00:27:03.000 And he creates that drawing and it creates this move towards abolition in the country.

00:27:08.000 And now this Republican Party starts in a congregational church in Rapon, Wisconsin, with a handful of people with the sole purpose of abolishing slavery.

00:27:19.000 And the American people embraced it, and three years later, elect the president of the United States.

00:27:25.000 And immediately, the states that wanted to keep their slavery, the people that wanted to keep their slavery, said, obviously, the American people have voted this isn't going to work.

00:27:33.000 And so they began to withdraw and to secede.

00:27:36.000 Back in those days, the president didn't take office until March.

00:27:38.000 And so between November and March, the states seceded and they formed what was called the Confederacy. 0.63

00:27:43.000 Now, that wasn't America that did that.

00:27:45.000 That's a handful of people that believe that race should be the primary factor.

00:27:50.000 So we fought the fight.

00:27:53.000 The freedom people won.

00:27:54.000 The Confederacy was defeated.

00:27:56.000 And then for the next 10 presidents, eight of them were Republicans.

00:27:59.000 America grew into the richest, most powerful nation on earth.

00:28:02.000 To this day, in every county in America, the Democrats meet to have a Jackson Day dinner and the Republicans meet to have a Lincoln Day dinner because we believe, Republicans believe, that God made us.

00:28:17.000 And at the foot of the cross, we are all equal.

00:28:19.000 Neither man nor rich nor poor, neither male nor female, nor slave nor free, but we are all in all.

00:28:26.000 That is, we are all equal, and America has always stood for that.

00:28:29.000 Now, that doesn't mean that every person who lives in America believes in it, because all you have to do is turn on the news, and you can see that's not the case.

00:28:35.000 There's a handful of folks that constantly want to speak about race or gender because they are racist and they are sexists.

00:28:44.000 But America is not that way.

00:28:46.000 And so it took a continual fight.

00:28:49.000 We thought that that would be enough, but they wouldn't treat them equally.

00:28:51.000 So we had to pass the 14th Amendment, which is equal protection.

00:28:55.000 We thought that would solve the problem.

00:28:56.000 But then in those Democrat areas, I'll say it again. 0.93

00:28:59.000 In those Democrat areas, they wouldn't let blacks vote. 0.61

00:29:03.000 The 15th Amendment didn't give blacks the right to vote.

00:29:05.000 Let's just get that clear, because blacks have been voting and been elected to office throughout the history of the country.

00:29:10.000 It said, if you read it, it says, no state shall deny.

00:29:12.000 In other words, it said the Democrats quit it.

00:29:15.000 And of course, not one single Democrat voted for the 15th Amendment.

00:29:18.000 Nope.

00:29:18.000 And then when the 15th Amendment gave them freedom, and then the 16th Amendment the right to vote.

00:29:25.000 Go ahead.

00:29:26.000 I'm sorry, Trenton.

00:29:27.000 So, Bob, one of the biggest lies taught to our kids, one of the things that is pervasive in the media, and I want you to dispel it, that the party switched.

00:29:37.000 Can I add one that'll tie in with your question?

00:29:40.000 I mean, you probably would, but I'm nodding.

00:29:40.000 Would you guys say no?

00:29:43.000 All right, thank you.

00:29:45.000 And dispel, if I've got this incorrect, but one of the most critical elections in the history of the country, you had Reconstruction that was on Lincoln's heart.

00:29:54.000 He gets assassinated.

00:29:56.000 Johnson takes over, and then we have Grant.

00:30:00.000 And then the most contentious election in the history of the country was 1876 at the centennial of our celebration as a nation for 100 years.

00:30:07.000 And it was tied.

00:30:09.000 And the popular vote went to Tilden.

00:30:14.000 And then the Republican candidate didn't have the popular vote.

00:30:17.000 And then the Electoral College was tied, and they contested for that. 0.56

00:30:21.000 But they decided to give the Republicans power of the presidency as long as they would remove federal troops from the South, protecting the votes of black Americans. 0.56

00:30:31.000 And that's where this switch started to occur because we just left them devastated. 0.52

00:30:35.000 Well, the point was that they said that we are now.

00:30:39.000 And where did the switch occur?

00:30:40.000 That was Charlie's.

00:30:41.000 Yeah, they said we're part of the country.

00:30:43.000 And so we want the troops taken out.

00:30:45.000 And so, you always hear about that in Virginia 20 years ago, they elected the first Republican since Reconstruction.

00:30:51.000 In Georgia, they elected the first Republican senator since Reconstruction.

00:30:55.000 So, during that period, right after the war, the American military was there to make sure that everybody was treated equally.

00:31:01.000 In order to bring peace in the country, they decided that they would remove the troops from the South and allow them to run their own states.

00:31:07.000 At that point, we discovered the Democrats are Democrats.

00:31:10.000 And so, Democrats did away with people being able to be treated fairly.

00:31:14.000 Jim Crow laws. 0.99

00:31:15.000 They came up with Jim Crow laws. 0.96

00:31:17.000 And we need to make this perfectly clear. 0.83

00:31:19.000 Anybody listening at this moment, I want you to ask your attention that all of these things that are changed, America did this and America did that.

00:31:27.000 America didn't do any of that stuff.

00:31:31.000 Democrats did certain things which are a scar on their party and thereby splashes on the rest of us. 0.91

00:31:37.000 Let's take Rosa Parks. 1.00

00:31:39.000 Everybody talks about Rosa Parks in America, she couldn't sit up front in the bus.

00:31:42.000 Nonsense.

00:31:43.000 That bus company was the National City Bus Company in Chicago, Illinois.

00:31:48.000 It ran buses in 38 cities in 16 states.

00:31:51.000 You can look it up.

00:31:52.000 They wouldn't mistreat their customers.

00:31:54.000 It was the Democrats, city council in Montgomery, Alabama, that said that blacks couldn't sit up front.

00:31:58.000 Well, they're not going to mistreat their customers. 0.60

00:32:00.000 They're going to let them sit where they want.

00:32:01.000 Then they said, if you do not enforce this, we're going to take away your franchise to have the bus company here.

00:32:07.000 Now, don't be blaming America for us.

00:32:10.000 That is an embarrassment.

00:32:11.000 It offends us no end.

00:32:13.000 Republicans, I had eight great uncles that fought in the war.

00:32:16.000 Six of them were in the Andersonville prison, starving to death in Georgia.

00:32:20.000 People risked their lives in order that we could all be treated equally, which is what America stands for.

00:32:24.000 The Democrat Party.

00:32:25.000 The Democrat Party, from then until this very day, continues to talk about people.

00:32:31.000 They cannot say the word American.

00:32:33.000 They have to say African American or Hispanic American or left-handed American or whatever. 0.93

00:32:38.000 They always have, divide, divide, divide.

00:32:43.000 So, Bob, narrowing on this even further, though, because we get lots of questions, and everyone can email us questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:50.000 And one of the biggest things, I was taught this, I went to public education for high school, and it's taught very clearly, and it is somewhat persuasive, where basically they say the good guys and bad guys, right?

00:33:01.000 The people that want what's best for humanity and not.

00:33:04.000 Good guys today are the Democrats, but the good guys back then were actually the Republicans who then became the Democrats.

00:33:10.000 So can you just help break that apart?

00:33:12.000 Because they use evidence of the Southern strategy and all this.

00:33:16.000 I have become quite well versed in this, but you know it better than I do.

00:33:20.000 No, walk us through.

00:33:21.000 We'll do it together.

00:33:22.000 And that is that the Democrats-that's an appropriate term because they believe in democracy. 0.54

00:33:30.000 They believe that you can make a ruling in Washington state in 2020 that you have to wear masks unless you are of color and that you have to wear masks if you're white, but not if you're not white. 0.52

00:33:46.000 Now, they can do that in 2020 because they continue to look at people in their individual groups.

00:33:52.000 That's what Democrats have done, and that's what they did.

00:33:56.000 Now, in the South, people didn't want to invest there.

00:34:00.000 It didn't grow.

00:34:02.000 It was much poorer because that existed.

00:34:05.000 In 1952, when Dwight, let me just go back to what one of my favorite presidents, by the way, underappreciated in the Republican Party.

00:34:13.000 And growing.

00:34:14.000 And they just did a thing on C-SPAN in which they had all of these historians and they voted him number six, which the very last time they voted.

00:34:23.000 And Calvin Coolidge, I think him.

00:34:25.000 I could go on for Eisenhower for a long time.

00:34:25.000 Yeah.

00:34:27.000 Well, and so what Rob referred to was when the Democrats took control, they passed a thing called posse competanis, and that is that you cannot use the military for police purposes within the confines of the United States.

00:34:41.000 The reason that Donald Trump did not send troops into Seattle, the reason that George Bush didn't send troops into New Orleans, was because under the principle of Democrats Institute of Plasi Comitatus is that unless there is a national emergency and declare the country is under attack,

00:35:05.000 martial law, that unless you declare an insurrection like that, that you cannot send troops at Katrina.

00:35:12.000 And so when George Bush called the governor, she said, fine, all of her friends got around.

00:35:16.000 He's going to get credit for cleaning it up.

00:35:17.000 She called him back, and they went back and forth for 45 minutes. 0.99

00:35:20.000 She said, I don't ask you until finally the damn did break. 0.99

00:35:23.000 Everybody's in trouble. 0.98

00:35:24.000 And five days later, she tells the president, interestingly enough, that was in New Orleans, and that's what passed the law originally.

00:35:31.000 Why am I talking about that?

00:35:32.000 I'm talking about that because that's the way the South operated, that you couldn't have soldiers, and so they could mistreat people. 0.70

00:35:37.000 So when you want to talk about lynchings, when you talk about the KKK, when you talk about all those things that happened that they can quote to you in college classes nowadays, it all took place under Democrat control.

00:35:52.000 Well, after World War II, and after the communists were given Eastern and Central Europe, in the 1952 election, they elected the five-star general, the commander of troops in Germany, in Europe, the American president, a five-star general, and he, when he looked at the law about how blacks were being treated, he did something that perhaps no one else could have done.

00:36:14.000 But he was a five-star general, one of only the four people that had never served in political office, and he sent the troops in.

00:36:20.000 And he sent the troops into Little Rock, Arkansas to say, quit it.

00:36:24.000 That person is allowed to go to that school regardless of her skin color.

00:36:28.000 Do you understand me?

00:36:29.000 And then he appointed judges that began to implement the law.

00:36:32.000 And when they did that, began to break apart the solid Democrat South.

00:36:36.000 Now, when they did that, for the very first time, when they let everybody vote, then you see that for the first time in over 100 years, Republicans began to get elected because they couldn't steal the votes.

00:36:47.000 But then they would say, just let's flex this out.

00:36:50.000 Well, why did Strom Thurmond switch parties then?

00:36:52.000 Because he's the only person that did.

00:36:54.000 Strom Thurmond was an independent sort that was a...

00:36:58.000 And they use this all the time, just so you know.

00:36:59.000 It's one of their top pieces of evidence on their shelf.

00:37:02.000 He was a Dixiecrat in 1948, and he was disliked among Democrats as well.

00:37:09.000 And he actually had a come to Jesus meeting. 0.80

00:37:12.000 He had a change of heart, and he began hiring African Americans on his staff. 0.54

00:37:19.000 And you can ask his successor, which is an African-American, Senator Scott, and he'll tell you how his heart changed, and he changed his party, and was the only person that we know of, the only person, certainly in the Congress, House, or Senate, that switched the parties. 0.88

00:37:35.000 He's the only one so they could ride that horse.

00:37:37.000 You served with Strom very well.

00:37:39.000 I knew Strom very well.

00:37:41.000 Everybody served with Strom.

00:37:42.000 Exactly.

00:37:43.000 Jesus served.

00:37:44.000 So a couple thoughts on the great switch, which I think is the fundamental biggest lie that we tolerate our kids to be fed.

00:37:51.000 I think it is the lie of which so many other lies are able to spread.

00:37:58.000 It is that it is one of the tributaries that affects everything.

00:38:01.000 Because if you believe the party switched, what you're really saying, in essence, is that now Republicans are the bad guys, right?

00:38:08.000 In this game of cowboy and Indians, right, for lack of a better term, just use a metaphor, we're wearing the bad jersey, they're wearing the good jersey.

00:38:15.000 And you can't accept that, especially when you look at the complete arc of American history.

00:38:19.000 Here's a couple of things that I use that are very helpful.

00:38:22.000 Why is it as the South became considerably less racist, it became more Republican?

00:38:26.000 And wealthier.

00:38:27.000 Right.

00:38:28.000 So if to keep it the logic according to the left, of which there is none, wouldn't it be when the South becomes less racist, they should have stayed Democrat, right?

00:38:37.000 If they're truly the kind of way we wear the good jerseys, they wear the bad.

00:38:41.000 Also, who actually cared about skin color in 1864?

00:38:45.000 The Republican Party or the Democrat Party?

00:38:47.000 Who cares about skin color today? 0.61

00:38:48.000 The Republican Party or the Democrat Party?

00:38:51.000 The hyperfixation on race.

00:38:51.000 Exactly.

00:38:53.000 And the final thing is this, as you wonderfully articulated, it's an interesting thing.

00:38:57.000 When you go through presidents, presidents that oversee great periods of prosperity are usually overlooked by historians.

00:39:04.000 And we as the Republican Party, we just don't talk about Dwight D. Eisenhower enough.

00:39:09.000 Now, people say that I didn't like the tax rates and all that.

00:39:12.000 I'm like, that actually is not my total definition of what a conservative is because some of that was out of his control and some of it was somewhat needed to fund the country after the structural deficit after World War II.

00:39:22.000 But he was a pro-family defense of Christianity, hard work, community-centered, loving his country patriot who oversaw eight of the most prosperous years in American history and actually did more for racial progress than any other president, probably, in American history, probably post-Reagan, post-Lincoln.

00:39:39.000 I'm sorry.

00:39:40.000 And so I'm just a bit, I've just, you're correct.

00:39:42.000 I've been reading Eisenhower biographies, and basically he thought himself as a role as just the manager of normal America.

00:39:48.000 Like, let's just get back to how things should be.

00:39:51.000 And I think that's a really aspirational thing where he didn't want himself to be just like king of the land.

00:39:56.000 And his exit speech was very prophetic about the military-industrial complex.

00:40:00.000 My godfather, Rear Admiral Robert Early, I'm named after him, big, big Eisenhower fan.

00:40:07.000 And when I was running for the state assembly, and I was being attacked by my own party in the primary, and he was going to turn 100 years of age, and I was going to miss his 100th birthday.

00:40:16.000 And my mom, you know, had died of lung cancer.

00:40:19.000 My dad was in a home with Alzheimer's.

00:40:21.000 So he was basically the patriarch of our family.

00:40:23.000 And I knew I'd miss his birthday.

00:40:24.000 So I went down to go visit him in the house he'd lived in all 50 years I'd been on this earth.

00:40:28.000 And he was bigger than life, still driving at 99 years of age, not well, but driving.

00:40:32.000 And I get down there and I start lamenting about the condition of California, talking about how I feel like I've led these folks on a rosy road to nowhere.

00:40:39.000 I'm out of money.

00:40:40.000 My own party's carpet bombing me.

00:40:42.000 And in the middle of my lamenting, and I've never heard him angry in 50 years, in the middle of my lamenting, he puts his hand up, 99-year-old man, still booming voice, puts his hand up, shaking with age, and he says, stop it.

00:40:54.000 And, you know, something like being spanked by a 99-year-old guy.

00:40:57.000 And he just says, stop it.

00:41:00.000 He said, I was 16 years old in the Great Depression.

00:41:04.000 You don't know Tough.

00:41:06.000 And had not been an appointment to the Naval Academy in 37, I would have never received a college degree.

00:41:11.000 And I was in Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941, and they sank half our Pacific Fleet.

00:41:15.000 And you, Rob, being a history major, you don't realize we had the 21st largest military on the face of the earth, and they sank half our Pacific fleet.

00:41:22.000 He said, I pulled my shipmates out of the water.

00:41:24.000 They sank my ship, and the harbor was on fire.

00:41:26.000 My shipmates were dead.

00:41:27.000 He got a silver star that day.

00:41:30.000 And he said, the next day we took on a two-fronted war against two fascist nations.

00:41:33.000 We lifted that fleet from the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.

00:41:35.000 We floated into Tokyo Harbor to accept the surrender of the Japanese.

00:41:39.000 And then he said, and we came back after the war, and we only asked for enough ground in those nations to bury our dead.

00:41:44.000 We were liberators, not occupiers.

00:41:46.000 And we came back and started the greatest industrial revolution in the history of the country.

00:41:50.000 And he looked at me and he goes, quit whining and go finish what you started.

00:41:54.000 He said, America's greatest days are ahead of it.

00:41:54.000 Amen.

00:41:56.000 And at 99 years of age, I was spanked by that man, and I deserved it.

00:42:03.000 And I just, I have to say to all of our listeners who are worried about where America is, the odds were against them then.

00:42:12.000 But you were pointing out that I don't remember who it is that stated this, but you had the American Revolution where the experiment in liberty was in great jeopardy.

00:42:23.000 Now, we survived World War II.

00:42:25.000 We've survived World War I.

00:42:26.000 We survived the Civil War.

00:42:27.000 But it hasn't been until right now, Bob, that the nation is at a crisis unlike anything we've seen in history.

00:42:33.000 Do you want to elaborate on that?

00:42:35.000 My friend, Ed Mies.

00:42:36.000 That's right, Ed Meese.

00:42:37.000 My dad worked with him, by the way.

00:42:38.000 And he's an American hero.

00:42:39.000 He's terrific.

00:42:40.000 Yeah, and we've been meeting.

00:42:41.000 General Meese, right?

00:42:42.000 We've been meeting every week for 30 years.

00:42:45.000 And he made the observation that the two times that America could possibly disappear was the Civil War, when those who are our enemies to this day, those who base their beliefs on race, who want to divide the races, don't want Americans to be Americans.

00:43:02.000 He said they could have destroyed it then.

00:43:05.000 And what we're seeing now is that same idea.

00:43:07.000 Both of them are from within.

00:43:08.000 He said, during World War II, we knew eventually we were going to win.

00:43:11.000 We had to restore. 0.66

00:43:12.000 But these are the two times at which Americans can disappear if we allow them to display the people.

00:43:16.000 Well, and I take it apart.

00:43:18.000 The one thing, and I completely agree, and I've done some serious thinking about this, and I wrote a long piece that I'm about to publish, which is that I think we have to get our terms very specific.

00:43:26.000 I'd love your thoughts on it.

00:43:27.000 You might totally disagree, which is unlike in the 1860s, I think this is a revolutionary war, not a civil war, because I don't think the opposition wants actually to govern the current country.

00:43:38.000 Good call.

00:43:39.000 I think they want to storm the Bastille and cut off heads and create something new. 0.87

00:43:43.000 That's correct. 0.55

00:43:43.000 And a civil war typically, and you're right completely about the 1860s, the comparison of the two, but a civil war is typically like, I want to be in charge of the current country, basically. 0.55

00:43:53.000 I don't think they want that.

00:43:54.000 I think they want to abolish it.

00:43:56.000 They want to wipe America away.

00:43:57.000 Yeah, and that's a different philosophy.

00:43:59.000 But it's not dissimilar in the sense of the functionality of it.

00:44:02.000 I just think it's important in the sense of we have to call our terms right, where they actually have no desire to govern what we currently have, right? 0.79

00:44:10.000 And for example, when the Bolsheviks and the Leninites ran over the Romanov dynasty, they were like, we're not going to keep the symbology of the Romanovs around.

00:44:18.000 Like, that wasn't a thing.

00:44:19.000 Pull down the statue.

00:44:20.000 Exactly.

00:44:21.000 When the French Revolution, which was Robespear, was leading the revolution in France, they weren't really keen on keeping Charlemagne's statue around, right?

00:44:31.000 It wasn't exactly, it was like, no, we're going to destroy it.

00:44:33.000 We are going to literally create new time, which is what they did.

00:44:36.000 We are going to have a 10-day week, not a seven-day week.

00:44:38.000 We're going to have no God.

00:44:39.000 We're going to have our own philosophical and moral code.

00:44:41.000 It ended up being a complete disaster, and that's what led the way for Napoleon.

00:44:45.000 But that's different philosophically than a civil war, like the English Civil War in the mid-1630s, the 1600s, I should say, which, of course, Thomas Hobbes lived through, where you win, you govern, right?

00:44:56.000 This is different.

00:44:56.000 This is an insurrection.

00:44:58.000 Yeah, they want to be totally different. 0.91

00:45:00.000 And if I could just piggyback on what you were saying there, Rob, about, first of all, to wrap up about the fact that whether or not there was a change, if you listen to them, they'll continue to say, oh, look at your skin color.

00:45:15.000 You need to get down on your knees.

00:45:16.000 You need to do this.

00:45:17.000 They continue to look at people in that manner.

00:45:19.000 They say, well, America did that.

00:45:20.000 No, it did.

00:45:21.000 They said, well, the American military was segregated.

00:45:24.000 No, it wasn't.

00:45:25.000 No, it wasn't.

00:45:26.000 It wasn't segregated until Woodrow Wilson.

00:45:28.000 That's right.

00:45:29.000 And he had an opportunity to desegregate it.

00:45:31.000 The first real Democrat after Lincoln. 0.54

00:45:35.000 We should talk about Wilson. 0.67

00:45:36.000 So he came in and he's the one that segregated the military.

00:45:39.000 And Woodrow Wilson, if I may, is revered by the left.

00:45:42.000 I think they just renamed the school at Princeton.

00:45:44.000 I think they just did.

00:45:45.000 And they're correct to do that because Wilson was a eugenicist, and he was the first American president.

00:45:50.000 And Bob, you know this.

00:45:52.000 He was the first American president on record to ever outwardly disagree at the Founding Fathers.

00:45:58.000 No president until Wilson said, I think they were wrong.

00:46:02.000 He was the first one to do it.

00:46:04.000 And he wrote extensively.

00:46:05.000 So if you look at Wilson, and this is why Wilson resonates on a deep level for me, if you look at his history, people, you ask a regular historian, they say, well, what did Wilson do before he became president?

00:46:14.000 Oh, he was governor of New Jersey.

00:46:15.000 Look deeper.

00:46:17.000 He ran Princeton.

00:46:19.000 He was a professor.

00:46:20.000 He'd been elected for one year.

00:46:21.000 He was a creature of the university who then became president.

00:46:21.000 That's right.

00:46:26.000 And he thought himself as a philosopher king.

00:46:28.000 And we got rid of the direct election of senators, which was a huge mistake.

00:46:33.000 The Federal Reserve Act and the income tax, all under Woodrow Wilson, and the disaster of the mishandlings of World War I.

00:46:39.000 And he refused to integrate and desegregate the armed forces.

00:46:44.000 No, it was desegregated up until then. 0.57

00:46:46.000 He's the one that segregated it.

00:46:47.000 It's even worse.

00:46:48.000 Yeah, he segregated.

00:46:50.000 He segregated the military in World War I, correct?

00:46:52.000 And they were combined up until Woodrow Wilson. 0.60

00:46:54.000 That's correct.

00:46:55.000 And Woodrow Wilson was the, and this is a misinterpretation of history: is that you look at the philosophical difference of Roosevelt and Taft versus Woodrow Wilson.

00:47:06.000 I mean, Taft and Roosevelt were patriots.

00:47:09.000 I mean, they were friends that ended up running against each other.

00:47:11.000 It's different.

00:47:12.000 But Wilson basically wanted to take America in a very almost Leninist direction.

00:47:18.000 And from that point forward, we really have seen.

00:47:22.000 And I hope I won't forget that, but I want to say the one sentence that you said about taking the ground to bury things.

00:47:29.000 Never in the history of the world, never in world history has a nation shed blood and treasure for the freedom of another and never asked anything in return.

00:47:46.000 God bless the land.

00:47:47.000 Except the United States of America. 0.89

00:47:48.000 Except the land.

00:47:49.000 No nation has ever done that.

00:47:50.000 So they talk about us being aggressive.

00:47:51.000 They teach this in school, and how in the world they get college students.

00:47:54.000 You don't have to be very bright to figure this out.

00:47:56.000 But they say that America is imperialistic and we impose our way around the world.

00:48:00.000 You know, if we wanted to impose our way, we could have owned Japan.

00:48:02.000 We could have owned Korea, etc. 0.63

00:48:05.000 Look at South Korea.

00:48:07.000 I spoke to the parliament in Seoul some years ago, and I was on the armed service or on the Veterans Affairs Committee, and I pointed out to them that as the World War II generation was passing, that the Veterans Administration was dealing primarily with Korean veterans, and that most of my work was helping these Korean veterans who bear in their body the burdens of the sacrifices they made, half over 50,000 men that gave their lives, plus the hundreds of thousands that now have the injuries that come in their later years.

00:48:35.000 I said, but in all of my dealings with these American veterans, not once have I ever heard any of them ever complain about the sacrifice that they made.

00:48:47.000 And what sacrifice did they make?

00:48:49.000 Only that these Koreans would not be occupied by the Japanese, by the Chinese.

00:48:54.000 Only that these Koreans could be free.

00:48:56.000 No nation has ever done such. 1.00

00:48:57.000 There never has been a nation with the goodness and the greatness of the United States of America.

00:49:03.000 Since you allow me to put this as my live stream, I want to do a segue because there's a man in our fellowship, and his name is Bob Wilson.

00:49:11.000 He was a staff sergeant at the Chosein Reservoir as a United States Marine.

00:49:15.000 And I think only nine men in his entire company came back alive.

00:49:20.000 And his bride of 68 years just went to be with the Lord.

00:49:23.000 And I'm going to be officiating her memorial service in the next couple weeks.

00:49:27.000 And, you know, that was a forgotten war.

00:49:31.000 The Korean War.

00:49:32.000 26,000 Americans died.

00:49:34.000 But, Bob, you.

00:49:35.000 Is it really?

00:49:36.000 But, Bob, you point out one of the greatest examples of freedom is found in the Korean Peninsula.

00:49:43.000 And it's a result of the sacrifice of the good men that served with Sergeant Wilson that died in the Chosin Reservoir and all the countless military personnel that sacrificed.

00:49:57.000 And you look at the Korean Peninsula and the satellite picture at night, and the bottom half of it is lit with industry, and the top half is pitch black dark. 0.63

00:50:08.000 And you said that most of the Aryan land in that did we explain that? 0.68

00:50:13.000 Yeah, we were having dinner in the Blue House, which is the White House in Seoul.

00:50:17.000 And the president made the observation, he was talking to my wife, and he said, you know, when they divided our country at the 30th parallel, I said, North Korea got 75% of the arable land.

00:50:28.000 We got 25% of the arable land.

00:50:30.000 We got most of the mountains and all of the refugees. 1.00

00:50:35.000 He said, They now are perhaps the poorest nation on earth, one of the poorest, and we have the 10th largest GDP in the world. 1.00

00:50:45.000 Same heritage, same culture, same language, same climate.

00:50:48.000 Everything is the same except freedom and socialism.

00:50:52.000 Socialism creates poverty, freedom creates abundance.

00:50:55.000 And I majored in economics, and so I was in college.

00:50:58.000 They'd all say, Well, why is America rich?

00:51:00.000 Well, it has lots of natural resources.

00:51:02.000 When they have any problems, they move further west.

00:51:03.000 And we're just an industrial type people, blah, blah.

00:51:06.000 These other people, they're not as good, as smart as we are.

00:51:08.000 They need socialism.

00:51:10.000 Okay, let's just take East and West Germany at the end of World War II. 0.51

00:51:14.000 Divided down the middle.

00:51:15.000 Same heritage, culture, climate, language.

00:51:17.000 When the wall came down, the GDP per capita on the west side was 17 times higher than it was on the left.

00:51:23.000 And the CIA, by the way, said it was 11.

00:51:26.000 When the wall came down, and they could actually compare, it was 17.

00:51:29.000 North and South Korea, when South Korea got its independence in 1953, thanks to the leadership of Dwight Eisenhower, putting an end to the war.

00:51:36.000 And General MacArthur.

00:51:37.000 And General MacArthur.

00:51:38.000 When South Korea was the third poorest nation on the planet, third, number three from the bottom, and now it's number 10 from the top.

00:51:47.000 I want to contribute something, though, which, you know, as I study this more, and I'm a student of economics informally, but the more I kind of look more broadly at this, the more I recognize and realize that a free economy and private property are instrumental, but it's one piece.

00:52:07.000 If you do not have strong and coherent families and flourishing churches, I think that the economics are kind of irrelevant, to be perfectly honest.

00:52:16.000 And it's not to say that you should sacrifice one for the other.

00:52:18.000 I think they actually work in harmony with each other.

00:52:21.000 But one of the reasons why South Korea has been able to flourish is it's a very Christian country as well.

00:52:25.000 Post-the war.

00:52:26.000 Yeah, post-the-war, they've had a Christian. 0.73

00:52:28.000 Huge missionaries going in there. 0.98

00:52:29.000 Massive amounts of conversions, and we shouldn't, you know, I think look over that.

00:52:34.000 Am I allowed to do a commercial?

00:52:36.000 Of course.

00:52:37.000 I've synthesized what you just said into a formula, and that is that politics equals integrity plus economics.

00:52:47.000 Those are the only two things that you vote on.

00:52:49.000 The acronym is PI.

00:52:50.000 Politics is easy as PI.

00:52:52.000 P-I-E.

00:52:53.000 Politics equals integrity plus economics.

00:52:55.000 Now, under our system, with very, very high integrity.

00:53:01.000 What is the standard for integrity?

00:53:02.000 Spirituality.

00:53:03.000 Scripture.

00:53:04.000 Thou shalt not steal.

00:53:05.000 Thou shalt not bear false.

00:53:07.000 It's declining, but yeah.

00:53:08.000 So the principle of that is that I look you in the eye and I give my word you're going to honor it.

00:53:14.000 And so those principles of very high integrity and low burden of government, the greater the wealth.

00:53:19.000 The lower the integrity, the thicker, the least I can trust you, the thicker the contract has to be, the more guards I have to put around the business, the more bars I have to put on, the more lawyers you have to get on and the more check I have to do to make sure you deliver.

00:53:34.000 If I have a business in Uganda, the more guards I have to round, the more people I have to bribe to get my goods shipped at the dock in wherever it is.

00:53:43.000 So the lower the integrity and the higher the burden of government, the greater the poverty.

00:53:47.000 So all we do when we vote is we vote on those two things.

00:53:51.000 And once you understand that principle, you can go to downtown Detroit, the richest city in the world when I was young, and now the poorest city north of the Rio Grande, and you see the collapse of integrity.

00:54:01.000 So everybody's put bars on their windows and now they want to do away with the police, et cetera, and very high taxes.

00:54:10.000 And so people say, I'm not going to go there.

00:54:11.000 So the population of Detroit is now lower than it was in 1900.

00:54:17.000 And there are 38,000 single-family dwellings that are abandoned because people don't want to do that.

00:54:21.000 So if you understand that principle, you can make any rich place poor or any poor place rich.

00:54:27.000 Now, libertarianism says, I really don't care about these.

00:54:31.000 If I want to pimp my daughter, if I want to do drugs, if I want to defecate on the sidewalk, if I want to have open borders, if I want to do California, that is, but I want low taxes, therefore I'm a libertarian.

00:54:43.000 Well, it doesn't work unless there is a spiritual value system.

00:54:48.000 You can have a zero tax rate in Uganda or in Zaire or Congo. 0.54

00:54:55.000 Let's say Congo.

00:54:56.000 Congo is overwhelming with natural resources.

00:55:00.000 Malachite, which we buy in a jewelry store around here, it's in the sidewalks of the capital city.

00:55:07.000 So it has abundant natural resources, but it's very, very poor.

00:55:11.000 So if you had a low tax rate, it still wouldn't prosper because it doesn't have a spiritual right and wrong value system.

00:55:11.000 Why?

00:55:18.000 That's exactly right.

00:55:18.000 That's why our founders put on the wall, thou shalt not steal.

00:55:22.000 And so when you did that, you didn't have to have it.

00:55:25.000 I think we're a country with an economy in it, not an economy that happens to be in a country and prioritizing the values of what the country is in the ideals.

00:55:34.000 And then saying, our economic activity could harmonize with it.

00:55:37.000 It can feed into it.

00:55:38.000 I think the problem with libertarian fundamentalism, of which I have played in those circles for years, is that there's kind of, at times, there's kind of just a almost a deference to the well-being of the country as long as you can just maximize personal indulgence, or at least the freedom to do it.

00:56:00.000 And I actually think that's really destructive for everybody.

00:56:03.000 I think it's really destructive for the whole country, for the innocent, for the well-being.

00:56:08.000 And I do want to ask this other question, Bob, because I think it's really interesting, you being an economics savant, which is that how much, and I've grown to believe that it's played a bigger and bigger role.

00:56:19.000 And you being from Ohio, you know this.

00:56:23.000 I actually believe that economics can feed into the spiritual, where that if you make such poor economic decisions public policy-wise that favor big corporations that shut down manufacturing plants and shut them to China, that could make people disengage from the spiritual.

00:56:40.000 It can make them disengage from civic life and tear families apart.

00:56:44.000 So I think that we as conservatives in the equation sometimes overweigh the social cultural and just say, well, the economics have nothing to do with the social cultural.

00:56:55.000 Do you think they both contribute?

00:56:56.000 It's like a fiscal conservative versus a social liberal.

00:57:02.000 Kind of like saying, if you shut down a manufacturing plant in Hubbard, Ohio, that's going to hurt the church too.

00:57:08.000 That's going to hurt the family.

00:57:10.000 It's not just economic.

00:57:13.000 The two are essential.

00:57:15.000 And if you understand how they come about, they're codependent.

00:57:20.000 So you can't weaken one without weakening the other.

00:57:22.000 So every time we, and you're exactly correct, there's nothing to add to it.

00:57:27.000 Well, it's just sometimes conservatives, and not you, would say, it's not a big deal that you ship the factory to China because it's comparative advantage.

00:57:27.000 You're right.

00:57:36.000 I went into a Starbucks on an early Friday morning, getting ready to go to my men's study.

00:57:42.000 And Bob McEwen's thoughts are rolling in my head.

00:57:45.000 A young kid in his 20s, wearing army fatigues, disheveled because he's been sleeping on the street, but healthy as an ox, says, can I have some money?

00:57:54.000 And I look at him and I said, I'll give you money if you can answer one question.

00:57:57.000 And this is Bob's fault.

00:57:59.000 And he goes, what's the question?

00:58:00.000 I go, what's money?

00:58:02.000 He goes, it's what you need to buy stuff with.

00:58:04.000 I go, no, man, sorry.

00:58:06.000 And he goes, well, what's the answer?

00:58:07.000 I go, well, since you want to learn, I'll buy you breakfast.

00:58:09.000 Come on in.

00:58:10.000 And we sit down.

00:58:11.000 He goes, what's money?

00:58:12.000 I said, money is a representation of the contribution you've made to society.

00:58:16.000 You've made no contribution, thus you have no money.

00:58:19.000 And that was the start of a long conversation that ended up having him go to teen challenge, get his life in order. 0.50

00:58:25.000 But it started with you because you point out how wealth is created and you talk about going into the store and you want to buy these shoes because you mowed Widow Johnson's yard.

00:58:35.000 Can you elaborate for the folks?

00:58:36.000 Because that's this political savant, how he takes the complex and makes it simple, Charlie.

00:58:42.000 It's remarkable and it just has really fed my heart.

00:58:45.000 I think that'll touch on what you were alluding to.

00:58:48.000 Maybe we should talk about how wealth is created, but how do we keep score is that we have pieces of paper that keep score about that.

00:58:54.000 And so when you go into the grocery store or when you go into the shoe store, you say, I want to have that pair of shoes.

00:59:02.000 And you ask, how much does it cost?

00:59:05.000 And he basically says, what have you ever done for anyone that you'd be entitled to these shoes? 0.87

00:59:11.000 And you say, well, I mowed Widow Johnson's yard.

00:59:14.000 Well, how do I know that? 0.97

00:59:16.000 Well, I have this.

00:59:17.000 And you hold up a $20 bill.

00:59:19.000 What is it?

00:59:20.000 It is a representation of a contribution that I made to someone else.

00:59:24.000 He said, well, that's nice.

00:59:25.000 That's a nice contribution, but that's not enough.

00:59:29.000 If you mowed her lawn maybe three times, then that might be worthwhile.

00:59:33.000 Now, how do I keep track?

00:59:34.000 I have money.

00:59:35.000 And so I make a contribution in which I have made sufficient contribution that he and I come to an exchange, which at the end of the exchange, we are both better off.

00:59:44.000 I am richer than I was before because I'd rather have those shoes than have this money.

00:59:47.000 He'd rather have that money than have those shoes.

00:59:49.000 And we make that exchange in which we are both better off.

00:59:53.000 And if we're not, we don't make the exchange.

00:59:55.000 So we have created wealth.

00:59:57.000 So what is money?

00:59:58.000 So how do I, yeah, so a farmer, a baker has 10 empty ovens.

00:59:58.000 A farmer and a baker.

01:00:03.000 A farmer has a pile of wheat.

01:00:05.000 And a farmer says, I don't need his wheat.

01:00:07.000 And they said, if I had his money, I could buy a new tractor and send my daughter to school.

01:00:11.000 And so the baker says, you know, if I had his wheat, I could make some donuts and sell them in the morning.

01:00:16.000 And so the two of them make an exchange, which at the end of the exchange, they are both better off, and they have therefore created wealth.

01:00:23.000 And that is the only way that wealth is created.

01:00:27.000 That's the only way, through a voluntary exchange.

01:00:30.000 So when you vote for me, and I'm going to take his money and give it to you, and you're going to be better off if you just vote for me.

01:00:36.000 That's called socialism, because he hasn't done anything for you, and you haven't done anything to earn it.

01:00:42.000 Therefore, if he says, if I produce something and it's stolen from me, and you say, if I get it and I don't produce it, this is a great thing.

01:00:49.000 So neither one of you produce.

01:00:51.000 And immediately the entire country collapses.

01:00:54.000 And this only happens every time.

01:00:57.000 And Venezuela, the richest nations in the Western Hemisphere.

01:01:01.000 Argentina at the turn of the century.

01:01:03.000 Cuba, then Venezuela.

01:01:05.000 We've all experienced it, and that's how you create poverty.

01:01:09.000 So if I can challenge you a little bit on this.

01:01:12.000 Please, please.

01:01:13.000 Because I think I agree all of that, but I don't necessarily agree with it in recent practice.

01:01:21.000 And let's have a conversation about it because the free market fundamentalism, a lot of the labor that goes into some of this work, they don't have a say when their factory closes down in Derby, Montana.

01:01:33.000 It's called unions.

01:01:33.000 Sure, they do.

01:01:35.000 Well, but we've deindustrialized our country.

01:01:37.000 Six million of them because McKinsey decided to put the plant in China.

01:01:43.000 I guess the question is, when does that free market fundamentalism go too far?

01:01:47.000 It doesn't.

01:01:49.000 It goes too far when somebody makes a deal that disadvantages either the worker or the purchaser.

01:01:58.000 But it's happened.

01:01:59.000 Absolutely has.

01:02:00.000 It happens all the time.

01:02:02.000 That's what the battle, that's what elections are all about.

01:02:04.000 And they can make...

01:02:06.000 The richest city in the world, as I mentioned, when I was young, was Detroit.

01:02:10.000 You can begin making decisions that will steal from people without, well, stealing is just wrong, period, which is called socialism.

01:02:21.000 That is, I take from you because I have the power to do it.

01:02:23.000 And when you do it, you then destroy jobs and you destroy the creation of wealth.

01:02:27.000 But I don't know if we're richer today than we were 10 years ago.

01:02:30.000 No, we're absolutely not.

01:02:31.000 No, because what has happened is that, and this is where.

01:02:35.000 So you and I agree on that, Caroline.

01:02:36.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:02:37.000 Absolutely.

01:02:39.000 That's where information is, in a free society, there has to be a free flow of information and knowledge.

01:02:44.000 And what happened about 25 years ago that they gave special privileges to if you invested in a certain place, it was namely China.

01:02:52.000 Yes.

01:02:52.000 And so you and I used to put money in a bank, and that bank was then loaned.

01:02:56.000 I got my first loan for my first car when I was 16 years old.

01:02:59.000 I borrowed $600 to buy a car, and the money in the local Hillsborough Bank in Ohio was loaned to me from people that had put it there, and they built churches or houses.

01:03:08.000 Beginning about 25 years ago, the mortgage banks in New York said, we will pay you more money than Bob McEwen can do it by borrowing on a house.

01:03:17.000 If you will take that money from Main Street America and send it to New York, we will package it and we will invest in China.

01:03:24.000 And in China, we're going to build overpasses and businesses and dredge ports and view as leverage.

01:03:31.000 And in the meantime, we're going to make a bundle because we're getting a greater return.

01:03:35.000 The bank will survive, but all the small businesses are going to disappear.

01:03:38.000 Yes.

01:03:39.000 And only one person, only one person, there were no Democrats, and there were 16 Republicans running in 2016.

01:03:47.000 And 15 of them said, well, that's just the way the market works.

01:03:51.000 That's what I'm getting at.

01:03:52.000 And one of them said, no, That's not the way the market works.

01:03:56.000 You're giving a special privilege.

01:03:58.000 Those people, they get tax benefits and every other benefit.

01:04:01.000 In fact, there's no tax at all.

01:04:03.000 If you make it in this country, you make something in Wilmington, Ohio, we're going to tax everything.

01:04:08.000 We're going to take everything that comes.

01:04:09.000 We're going to tax the taxes that the trucks that deliver it.

01:04:12.000 We're going to tax on and on and on. 0.91

01:04:14.000 But if you will take that money and make that thing in China, then not only that, we'll allow you to send it to Mexico and they'll bring it across the border debt-free. 0.90

01:04:22.000 There will be no taxes at all. 0.97

01:04:24.000 And that little business there in Wilmington, Ohio, we're going to be able to kill it.

01:04:27.000 So my pushback, not with you, but generally, is when we describe that as a free market.

01:04:33.000 It's not a free market.

01:04:33.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:04:34.000 And it's government manipulation.

01:04:35.000 Yes.

01:04:36.000 And that's what I'm saying.

01:04:37.000 And Donald Trump was far enough to say, I'm going to quit that.

01:04:40.000 And Main Street America, places like Columbia, places like Mahoney County, Youngstown, Ohio, where there were no Republicans.

01:04:48.000 I did the Lincoln Day dinner there.

01:04:49.000 You could put them all in this little room here.

01:04:52.000 There were no Republicans.

01:04:53.000 They didn't drive through the place, let alone live there.

01:04:54.000 He carries it two to one.

01:04:56.000 He carries it two to one.

01:04:57.000 And everybody, and that's why, ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you, that's what blew everybody's mind.

01:05:02.000 The New York Times, I believe it was the New York Times, a New York newspaper, the following week sent someone to Youngstown.

01:05:10.000 I remember this story.

01:05:11.000 They say, how in the world did this ever happen?

01:05:14.000 It was like an investigative journalist they would send to Syria after a bomb went up.

01:05:17.000 Exactly.

01:05:18.000 The way they wrote it was like, I'm looking around at a depraved landscape, asking, and she went basically down, and I think it was Mahona County, right?

01:05:26.000 Yes.

01:05:27.000 And Youngstown State University is right down the street there.

01:05:29.000 And she said she went into just a deli and she went to the black church.

01:05:32.000 And who'd you vote for?

01:05:33.000 Trump.

01:05:33.000 Who'd you vote for?

01:05:34.000 Trump?

01:05:34.000 Why?

01:05:35.000 Only person who promised to bring us dignity back to this region.

01:05:38.000 And basically the way that I brand this is Youngstown, Ohio was tired of having mountains and castles of plastic that meant nothing to them while their school has funding problems and everything that they love has been interrupted because that plant used to be open because they used to make something there.

01:05:58.000 Right?

01:05:59.000 And this one fella who on a street corner, unemployed, asked him in one sentence, in one sentence, he said, well, he said, I figured this.

01:06:10.000 I figured Democrats were more interested in some man taking a shower with my daughter in the locker room than they were in me having a job.

01:06:26.000 And what's so interesting is that there's two ways.

01:06:29.000 There's a really interesting point I want to go back to with that because I actually think social conservatism is the future of the Republican Party, whereas some people want it to be the past of the Republican Party.

01:06:39.000 And I'd love to talk about that because I actually think social conservative values are complete bridge builders and winners in coalition.

01:06:46.000 Critical.

01:06:47.000 And I would love to talk about that because it's so opposite of like the Mitt Romney wing of the party that they want us to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

01:06:54.000 Let's wrap up what you're saying here because that's worthwhile.

01:06:57.000 So Donald Trump wins, which just upsets all of the intelligentsia.

01:07:02.000 And he starts to act like a businessman who's an American.

01:07:08.000 He actually believes he's an American.

01:07:10.000 So he has satellite pictures of 5,000 acres in Mexico that's filled with all of these cars from China.

01:07:17.000 And you can trace where they come.

01:07:19.000 And he takes the picture and he shows it, he gives it to the president of China.

01:07:22.000 He says, president of Mexico, he said, that doesn't stop.

01:07:24.000 We're going to put a stop to this whole thing.

01:07:26.000 Now, we check that on a regular basis.

01:07:28.000 It's completely empty.

01:07:29.000 I got a better one for you.

01:07:31.000 Liz and I were, my wife and I were, I was on the American delegation to the European Parliament.

01:07:35.000 European Parliament meets in Brussels, Belgium.

01:07:39.000 Donald Trump comes in and he says, you know, there are no American cars to speak of in Europe.

01:07:46.000 Why is that?

01:07:47.000 There is a 28% tariff on any car.

01:07:51.000 So you bring an American car right off the bat.

01:07:53.000 You got 28%.

01:07:54.000 Now they have other things as well.

01:07:55.000 You have to take it apart and have everything.

01:07:57.000 Rensselaer energy stuff.

01:07:58.000 You've got to make it leaders, all sorts of stuff.

01:08:00.000 So Donald Trump says this.

01:08:02.000 He says, 28%. 1.00

01:08:05.000 That's a good number. 0.60

01:08:07.000 That's a very good.

01:08:08.000 I think we can do that.

01:08:09.000 And so, yeah, I think we ought to add 28%.

01:08:12.000 Now, then the Senate, the people that claim to be conservative Republicans, which I call the Bedwetter Caucus, they immediately run and say, well, you can't do that. 0.61

01:08:21.000 My goodness, that's a violation of free trade and all that.

01:08:24.000 Now, when Liz and I were in Brussels the following October, I showed her the newspaper that day that we were going in the European Union, that day, the get this.

01:08:33.000 Well, let's back up.

01:08:34.000 Let's talk about Germany for a second.

01:08:36.000 Germany, the great powerful Germany.

01:08:38.000 They're always on time.

01:08:39.000 What do they do?

01:08:40.000 They make cars.

01:08:43.000 They have glass and rubber and all these things, but basically, Audis, VMWs, Mercedes, Volkswagen.

01:08:51.000 So they make cars from which everything else goes.

01:08:53.000 You hit cars, they're going to feel up very rapidly.

01:08:57.000 And so while we were there, I said, look at this.

01:08:59.000 The German Automobile Manufacturers Association was proposing to the European Union that taxes and tariffs on American cars to your European Union should be dropped to zero.

01:09:16.000 And I said, no, why did they do that?

01:09:18.000 Because George Bush sent him a Christmas card?

01:09:21.000 Because Barack Obama went over there and said, we're just really mean people and we're really terrible people.

01:09:25.000 We never should have shed blood giving you freedom.

01:09:27.000 We were just really awful.

01:09:28.000 No, no, he did it because Donald Trump, who's a businessman, said, fine, we're going to put 28% on every BMW.

01:09:33.000 You know how many BMWs there are?

01:09:35.000 It's going to crash tomorrow.

01:09:37.000 And these folks went scurrying to theirs.

01:09:39.000 Now, there's more to the story.

01:09:41.000 They then show up last November 5th or whatever it was, and the White House, and they say that they're willing to do that.

01:09:48.000 We'll go to zero, zero, which would make all the quote economists with no political insight.

01:09:53.000 They say, oh, that would be good.

01:09:54.000 As I said, the Bedwater caucus would think that was an accomplishment at this point.

01:09:58.000 What did Donald Trump say?

01:10:01.000 I need to think about that.

01:10:03.000 Why?

01:10:04.000 Because he knows that they're dependent on automobiles.

01:10:07.000 And the second he signs an automobile agreement, then when it comes to medical equipment and everything else, they'll start screwing us again.

01:10:13.000 So the fact of the matter is, he is protecting America.

01:10:16.000 And as a result, America is in a recovery such that that force in New York, Wall Street, those billions of dollars, those trillions of dollars that have money from all over the world going to China.

01:10:27.000 And China with its military and political forces are at risk to that whole operation that if he gets re-elected, they'll never going to recover.

01:10:35.000 And I got to say one more thing.

01:10:37.000 If you will look at the economy, and for anybody that has any questions for you guys who got iPads in front of you, go to the St. Louis Federal Reserve and look at the St. Louis Federal Reserve and look at the chart that has the median income for Americans.

01:10:52.000 And you will see in 1996, it's $62,000 something.

01:10:59.000 And then you will find 20 years later, it's exactly the same within $200.

01:11:05.000 It's exactly flat.

01:11:07.000 Now, if you look at what's happening in China, China is growing 6%, 8%, 9%. 0.95

01:11:11.000 And China is about to overtake us until, by God's grace, in 2016, there was an eruption.

01:11:18.000 And the President of the United States said, quiet it, you're not going to be doing these games.

01:11:22.000 Why are we...

01:11:24.000 There's a thing called a manufacturing chain.

01:11:27.000 What's the term for it?

01:11:27.000 The supply chain.

01:11:29.000 That is, the Chinese were smart enough to figure out that we get these critical pieces that you can't build a Mercedes Germany unless you have our little piece from here. 0.61

01:11:37.000 You can't make a Samsung refrigerator unless you have our little piece. 0.95

01:11:40.000 And so they systematically went around the world getting critical.

01:11:46.000 Components of the supply chain.

01:11:47.000 Yes, but also the ingredients.

01:11:50.000 Term escapes me at the moment.

01:11:51.000 But nevertheless, in the supply chain, this is they control virtually the entire world.

01:11:55.000 Donald Trump walks in, puts a spotlight on, said, this is nonsense.

01:11:58.000 This shouldn't be happening.

01:11:59.000 And immediately all over the world, people begin withdrawing their factories.

01:12:02.000 Americans begin bringing them back home.

01:12:04.000 The economy in China goes down 37%. 0.85

01:12:08.000 The economy in America grows 50% from George Washington to Donald Trump, and then it jumps another 50%.

01:12:15.000 With that, they're never going to recover.

01:12:18.000 And America will continue to be the freest, strongest nation on earth.

01:12:21.000 Therefore, they have to do everything possible.

01:12:24.000 They have to shut down schools.

01:12:25.000 They have to claim that you're going to die if you look at me with your face uncovered.

01:12:29.000 They do everything in the world to take power.

01:12:31.000 And if they are able to do that, then we'll be back in the soup again.

01:12:34.000 And if they don't, America will continue to bless the world.

01:12:36.000 Well, and the interesting part about import tariffs is that all VW and Mercedes have to do is just make it here and you avoid the tariff.

01:12:43.000 And what they want to do is just make it in Germany.

01:12:45.000 And the conversation around tariffs in fundamentalist free market circles, especially the fringe libertarians, and again, I know a lot of these people.

01:12:53.000 I agree with them on issues of free speech and guns.

01:12:55.000 But when it comes to this, I just, I struggle because I say, there's like, oh, all tariffs are always bad.

01:13:00.000 And I say, well, let me tell you about something.

01:13:02.000 You guys know about the pickup truck tariff.

01:13:03.000 And a lot of people don't know about this.

01:13:04.000 There's a 25% import tariff on the books for all pickup trucks in America.

01:13:08.000 Signed by mistake by Lyndon Baines Johnson, pressured to sign it.

01:13:11.000 And he's like, whatever.

01:13:12.000 It's part of the chicken tax tariffs.

01:13:14.000 You might remember learning about that.

01:13:15.000 All these arbitrary tariffs that were signed on.

01:13:18.000 Well, interestingly, the pickup truck was a very obscure vehicle post-World War II.

01:13:22.000 No one had it.

01:13:23.000 No one really understood it.

01:13:24.000 Mid-1960s.

01:13:25.000 So big tariff. 1.00

01:13:26.000 The German cars and the Asian cars decided not to make this stupid car, right? 1.00

01:13:30.000 Who cares? 0.99

01:13:30.000 So what ended up happening is Ford, Chrysler, and GM were like, let's make this car. 0.99

01:13:35.000 It can kind of be cool.

01:13:36.000 People go West.

01:13:37.000 It's a little more rugged.

01:13:38.000 It's durable.

01:13:39.000 The only companies in the world that end up making pickup trucks at the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s were American car companies, right?

01:13:45.000 Of course, the Ford pickup truck.

01:13:47.000 Of course, because you make it here.

01:13:48.000 So then Toyota gets win, of course, they want to compete.

01:13:51.000 They say, well, we get wind of this.

01:13:53.000 So they start to lobby Washington, D.C. in the 2000s to try to get this tariff repealed.

01:13:58.000 And they don't.

01:13:58.000 Toyota realizes they're missing a huge market still.

01:14:01.000 Same with Nissan, same with all the companies.

01:14:03.000 So what do they do?

01:14:04.000 They go open up a plant in Tennessee to avoid the tariff, employing all Americans.

01:14:08.000 That's trade at work, and that's a tariff.

01:14:11.000 So that works.

01:14:12.000 38,000 Americans work in the pickup truck industry.

01:14:15.000 38,000 jobs that are protected, families that have food on the table.

01:14:18.000 So there's plenty of examples of how you can actually leverage our advantages.

01:14:22.000 And you know what?

01:14:23.000 Here's what I want for trade.

01:14:25.000 In my opinion, I want trade to be like how it is between Massachusetts and Montana.

01:14:30.000 Use the same kind of value system, right?

01:14:32.000 You both know that both sides are going to benefit.

01:14:34.000 When I trade with Shanghai, it's just not the case, right?

01:14:38.000 When it's Missouri and Massachusetts, you're like, okay, we're both on kind of the same team here, right?

01:14:44.000 I don't feel that way.

01:14:45.000 No. 0.96

01:14:46.000 And we're foolish enough that when they take advantage of us, I'll give you one more. 0.99

01:14:50.000 We didn't allow Japan to fly in the internal United States. 0.98

01:14:53.000 They could fly to Seattle and Los Angeles, but they couldn't fly to Chicago and Omaha. 1.00

01:14:57.000 And so they kept banging, banging, banging to do that.

01:14:59.000 And so we negotiated that we could fly, we would get additional flights to Japan, and they would be able to fly to Chicago and elsewhere.

01:15:05.000 And one of the requirements that they made was that we would get the food service and repairs would be done at the local airport, which seems naive because it goes to exactly what you said.

01:15:15.000 That is because we think that we're being honest.

01:15:18.000 Folks that are dealing with us, if they can screw us, they see that as an accomplishment.

01:15:23.000 Whereas under our spiritual value system, we think that that's wrong, even though even if we didn't have to do it, we wouldn't think it was right. 0.92

01:15:29.000 So what did Japan begin to do?

01:15:31.000 They began to refuse to deliver the food.

01:15:33.000 So you've got a 747 full of people sitting there, and they wouldn't deliver the food a half hour late, 45 minutes late, two hours late.

01:15:40.000 And so people began to no longer, and so finally the American airlines could not compete.

01:15:45.000 So they come in, and I made the complaint to the FCC or to the FAA explaining to them why this is.

01:15:51.000 They brought in all these American lawyers.

01:15:53.000 Well, that's just the marketplace.

01:15:54.000 And if they're given better service, they should.

01:15:55.000 No, that's not true at all.

01:15:57.000 They are playing for their best interests.

01:15:59.000 And we had people that were sellouts in America.

01:16:01.000 And I repeat, by the grace of God or some other explanation, in 2016, we got somebody who's on our team, and America has begun to prosper.

01:16:09.000 And we are now involved in a great civil war.

01:16:13.000 I feel like a pair of brown shoes with a black tuxedo.

01:16:17.000 I'm just digging it.

01:16:19.000 And my head's full out of it.

01:16:20.000 I have stretch marks on my brain.

01:16:22.000 Well, I'm excited.

01:16:23.000 Let me just tell you.

01:16:26.000 Finally, people are waking up, like out of a great slumber.

01:16:29.000 And just like the rest of the world.

01:16:31.000 With that slumber and that awakening.

01:16:33.000 You're a man of faith.

01:16:34.000 You love the Lord with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.

01:16:37.000 You and Liz just love the Lord.

01:16:39.000 You've raised your family accordingly.

01:16:41.000 You've lived your life with the principles of Christ.

01:16:45.000 You've adopted.

01:16:47.000 You've lived sacrificially what God has called you to.

01:16:52.000 And our paths crossed just by the grace of God.

01:16:56.000 And now, you know, you see what we're having to deal with in California, and you know the spiritual constraints that are being put on the church in America.

01:17:07.000 From the vantage point of being a politician, but more than that, primarily being a believer and stepping into the public square and understanding the value of the church and the importance of the church to engage in the public square.

01:17:19.000 Give me your thoughts on that, if you would.

01:17:22.000 Anything you'd like to encourage the listeners with?

01:17:24.000 Insights you've had, stuff you just want to share.

01:17:27.000 Well, I think.

01:17:28.000 Because Charlie's on his phone and he didn't have a question, and I do, so I'm going to steal that.

01:17:32.000 Well, I do think that it's a fight that we're facing.

01:17:38.000 And just to remind you about who Winston Churchill was, Winston Churchill was the first 20th century.

01:17:45.000 When the British Empire was collapsing, one person in four on the planet lived in the British Empire, and they decided they were going to be kind and they would weakness if they just, as my father described it, when the rabid dog is running at you, you throw away your stick so that he doesn't attack you.

01:17:59.000 And he's usually not impressed by that.

01:18:01.000 But nevertheless, that's what Britain did during the 1930s.

01:18:04.000 And finally, when they're about to disappear and they're done, you can do this in a monarchy, you can't do it in America, the king came in and said to Winston Churchill, he said, now that we're all done and the world's fallen apart, and how would you like to be prime minister?

01:18:18.000 And so he said he drove out of Buckingham Palace, the weight of the world fell upon him, and yet he did two things.

01:18:26.000 He said that he felt that his entire life had been but a preparation for this hour.

01:18:31.000 And then he went home and slept the sleep of a newborn babe, content in the knowledge that finally someone was in charge who knew what they were doing.

01:18:40.000 That's about ego, but nevertheless, a fellow asked him one time, he said, how do I prepare for public office?

01:18:47.000 He said this.

01:18:47.000 He said, study history, study history, study history, for in it you will find all of the secrets of statecraft.

01:18:57.000 And so let me refer to history.

01:19:00.000 That is, at the end of World War II, when Woodrow Wilson was six months in Paris and they did the Treaty of Versailles, one of the provisions was that on the border between Germany and France, that the Rhineland along the river there, that they were not allowed to have any military armaments because that would be a tripwire.

01:19:19.000 Is that Alsace-Lorraine?

01:19:21.000 That's elsewhere, but it's called the Rhineland.

01:19:24.000 And it's a warning that the militarized zone, that if the British moved, if the Germans moved in there, that would be an early warning here. 0.51

01:19:31.000 France, they're coming after you. 0.64

01:19:33.000 Well, Hitler comes along and says, that's our country. 0.57

01:19:37.000 Why can you tell me I can't have a tank there?

01:19:39.000 Who says that?

01:19:40.000 And the Warmark, the military says to Hitler, no, We just got whopped.

01:19:46.000 Don't be poking the bear here.

01:19:48.000 He said, no, it's our country.

01:19:49.000 We can do what we want.

01:19:51.000 And so he orders the military into the demilitarized zone, into the Rhineland.

01:19:56.000 And when he does, we now know on every soldier were the retreat orders that if they met any resistance at all, they were to retreat because their army was so worthless and so useless that, get this, the army of France alone, not Belgium, Germany, not Belgium and Britain and elsewhere, the army of France was 11 times greater than the army of Germany.

01:20:23.000 But leadership is required.

01:20:27.000 Hitler said there's no leadership on the other side. 1.00

01:20:29.000 They're a bunch of pantyways. 1.00

01:20:31.000 You watch this. 1.00

01:20:31.000 And if I move in there, we'll see what happens. 1.00

01:20:33.000 And so he moves in there.

01:20:34.000 All of the old-timers said he's a troublemaker.

01:20:37.000 He's going to blow up the world.

01:20:38.000 He's trying to get us back into war.

01:20:40.000 And he goes up there and nobody does anything.

01:20:43.000 And the whole thing begins to shift.

01:20:45.000 Oh, those old-timers, those generals, they're the ones that lost the war in the first place. 0.93

01:20:49.000 Hitler's the one. 0.93

01:20:50.000 He's the one that's going to protect us. 0.98

01:20:51.000 He's the one.

01:20:52.000 And so he began to realize that now the shift began to come to him.

01:20:55.000 Now take that model and let me talk about California.

01:20:58.000 Where a fellow comes along and says, oh, by the way, I don't think that we should have barbers working on this week for the next week and a half.

01:21:08.000 And everybody says, oh, okay, well, then fine, we'll do that.

01:21:10.000 He said, I don't think we ought to go to school.

01:21:15.000 Okay, we'll bring all the kids home.

01:21:18.000 I don't think you ought to go to church.

01:21:19.000 Oh, and they keep coming up with more and more things till now he's running out of them.

01:21:24.000 The governor of California says, if you go to a parking lot and you're distancing from everyone, you cannot sing.

01:21:34.000 And if you're in San Diego, you cannot have a friend over to your own house.

01:21:39.000 They've run out of ways to find a limit where someone will stand up and say no.

01:21:44.000 And that's how that is how freedom is lost.

01:21:47.000 Freedom is lost is when they keep going until finally they try to meet something.

01:21:51.000 And there has not been that until recently.

01:21:54.000 And we are now about to see it.

01:21:56.000 And if we don't have people that will stand up like Rob, in which we're going to confront as to whether or not America exists or whether we rule by individual fiat out of Columbus and Sacramento and Tallahassee.

01:22:10.000 Problems that aren't confronted multiply.

01:22:13.000 And that is one of the big issues right now.

01:22:15.000 So let's talk about that.

01:22:16.000 We have the weak need Republicans, and I have been very vocal.

01:22:20.000 My listeners know that.

01:22:22.000 And surprisingly, there's been some blowback, but not as much as I would have thought.

01:22:28.000 It's as if the establishment knows it.

01:22:31.000 It's been a very bizarre thing.

01:22:33.000 And usually when I'm critical of the establishment, I get all sorts of different messages and things.

01:22:38.000 I really don't care.

01:22:38.000 But now it's almost as if they know they're being weak.

01:22:41.000 They know they have no courage.

01:22:42.000 And it's either they're choosing not to do it, like they think it's a thunderstorm and they're just waiting for it to pass, or they don't know how to fight, or they just have an unwillingness to engage at this very moment.

01:22:55.000 And as we're recording this podcast, Republican governors are shutting their states down again.

01:23:00.000 And I want to say the good ones as much as I say the bad ones.

01:23:03.000 I have to make sure I make a habit of that.

01:23:05.000 I always try to do that.

01:23:06.000 But Governor Kemp, God bless him, for what he's doing for suing the local municipalities saying you can't mandate your citizens to wear masks.

01:23:13.000 I think that's a great step.

01:23:15.000 I think that's, I'm reading the news correctly.

01:23:16.000 I believe that's what he's doing.

01:23:18.000 It could be the opposite.

01:23:19.000 Maybe I'm praising this correctly.

01:23:20.000 Okay, good.

01:23:21.000 And so also, Christine Num, incredible. 0.86

01:23:24.000 Absolutely phenomenal.

01:23:25.000 Ron DeSantis has been really good.

01:23:27.000 He's going through a tough moment there because everyone's decided to go to Florida with the virus, but I think he's holding the line really well.

01:23:33.000 But there's other states where they're just shutting everything down.

01:23:37.000 And it's incredible.

01:23:38.000 I believe the authoritarians are trying to push us until they realize how far they can go.

01:23:43.000 Can I also add that you're seeing at the gubernatorial level, but in my own county, and Bob, you were the one who opened my eyes to this, that the most powerful elected official in any county is the sheriff.

01:23:55.000 Is that correct?

01:23:56.000 He's the one who can call martial law.

01:23:58.000 He's the one that can declare disaster.

01:24:02.000 And in some of these counties in California, especially in ours, I'm in direct violation of the governor's authority, his edict, and have continued to be.

01:24:11.000 And threatening to have our water shut off, our power shut off, a $1,000 a day fine.

01:24:15.000 I mean, and they have pushed this draconian rule down to the local municipalities, enforcing, holding back funds from the city if they don't enforce these state rulings.

01:24:26.000 But there's no legal, or let me correct that.

01:24:31.000 There's no police force in our county willing to arrest us because our sheriff realizes this is a violation of constitutional rights.

01:24:40.000 Now, I don't want to put him in the spotlight.

01:24:45.000 And I can't say that he's publicly declared that, but we haven't had an officer come in to shut us down.

01:24:51.000 And this is going to have to happen in some other capacity.

01:24:53.000 And there's counties all over California that have sheriffs that you look at it as a doctrine of the lesser magistrate.

01:24:59.000 Their governors may not be doing it, but these sheriffs are pushing back in defense of their citizens within their county.

01:25:06.000 Can local authority have as much power as a governor to push that up the food chain?

01:25:11.000 And as Charlie's pointing out, we want to see it from the federal level and we want to see it from the gubernatorial level.

01:25:16.000 But I think every level of government can resist, can't we?

01:25:19.000 Yes.

01:25:20.000 And we've never experienced this before.

01:25:21.000 We've never had anything close to this.

01:25:23.000 And let me just put around as to why good people are succumbing to it.

01:25:28.000 And if I may recommend a little book that you read at one sitting, it's about a quarter of an inch thick.

01:25:33.000 It's called How Do You Kill 11 Million People. 0.99

01:25:35.000 It was a byproduct of a conversation I had with a very good friend of mine by the name of Andy Andrews, in which he was always frustrated at how he would see these Jewish families getting on these boxcars. 0.69

01:25:44.000 And you see at the end of the dock, you see some guy with a gun, some Nazi soldier somewhere.

01:25:49.000 He said, but these people could have overrunning in a minute.

01:25:50.000 How did it happen?

01:25:51.000 And he basically explains what happened here.

01:25:54.000 And that is that you use fear.

01:25:56.000 And that is, you need to move into this section of town in Warsaw because in order for you to be safe, in order for you to be safe, you need to be because we want to keep you safe.

01:26:06.000 Why are you putting these walls around?

01:26:07.000 Well, we want to keep you safe.

01:26:09.000 Well, why do you have to have guards at the entrance?

01:26:11.000 We can't come out.

01:26:12.000 Well, we don't want any folks coming in here and harming you.

01:26:15.000 We want to keep you safe.

01:26:16.000 Why must I have this ticket if I'm going to keep you safe?

01:26:18.000 And so then they would call the fathers together and they would say, Now we have some bad news to report, and that is that the Russians are coming and it's no longer safe here. 0.53

01:26:29.000 But we have a place that's much, much better. 0.99

01:26:31.000 It's called Dachau.

01:26:32.000 And well, but you're going to have better jobs and you have better homes.

01:26:36.000 And so what we need you to do is go home and inventory what you have, so that we can come back and get it, the piano and things.

01:26:42.000 But we need to move quickly.

01:26:44.000 And so just one night overnight will be fine, just enough.

01:26:48.000 But your wife and your children are going to follow your lead.

01:26:51.000 And so if you're calm, then they'll be calm.

01:26:53.000 If you're upset, then it's going to be chaotic.

01:26:54.000 And let me just tell you this: we're going to get on a boxcar and it's going to be uncomfortable.

01:26:58.000 And for the two or three months, or two or three hours, it's going to be uncomfortable.

01:27:03.000 But at the end, you're going to have a better home and you're going to have better jobs and it'll be much safer.

01:27:08.000 And for safety's sake, you need to line up and to walk on here.

01:27:12.000 So how do you control people?

01:27:14.000 Through fear.

01:27:15.000 You lie to them.

01:27:16.000 Subsequently, the scripture said, and there is always a direct correlation between man's spirit and all of these things that we talk about in government and economics.

01:27:24.000 And so 365 times it says in scriptures to fear not.

01:27:28.000 Because God knows that we are fearful.

01:27:30.000 That's right, one for each day.

01:27:32.000 And then when Christ comes in the most momentous time in history, and the shepherds are there in the field and the angels show up, the very first words out of their mouth, fear not.

01:27:42.000 For behold, I bring you good tidings with great joy.

01:27:44.000 So man knows, God knows that man is subject to fear.

01:27:48.000 If I can scare you, then I can manipulate you into literally walking your children into a death chamber.

01:27:53.000 And what you will hear everywhere is not, do these masks are they productive?

01:27:58.000 Are they beneficial?

01:27:59.000 It's to be safe.

01:28:00.000 We're taking the risk to be safe.

01:28:01.000 Shut down the schools, all the chaos that's happening. 1.00

01:28:04.000 The autistic children are regressing two and three years every month. 1.00

01:28:07.000 It's a terrible thing that's happening. 1.00

01:28:09.000 But in order to be safe, in order to be safe, and they scare people into giving up their freedom.

01:28:15.000 And that's what was never the case for Americans in the past.

01:28:18.000 Thomas Hobbes wrote about this in the Leviathan: that if you want to control a citizenry, strike them with fear.

01:28:23.000 It is the number one human motivator.

01:28:25.000 We knew that.

01:28:25.000 We know this.

01:28:26.000 It's really interesting.

01:28:27.000 When I first went through the eighth grade, there was a whole month. 0.78

01:28:32.000 One thing that my public middle school did very well is they taught the horrors of the Holocaust. 0.88

01:28:37.000 And I'll never forget, I challenged my teacher and I said, I don't understand how this could have happened. 0.76

01:28:43.000 And throughout high school and throughout the beginnings of turning point, I came to better grips so that I visited Dachau and I understood.

01:28:51.000 And two parts of this was when I visited Dachau, it got harder for me to understand because when you go there in northern Munich, one of the few concentration camps still that they didn't demolish because they demolished almost all of them.

01:29:06.000 They have a very old apartment building right next to it.

01:29:08.000 And in fact, it's about 89 years old.

01:29:11.000 And I asked the tour guide, I said, how old is that building?

01:29:14.000 And they said, oh, yeah, it goes back to like 1920.

01:29:16.000 And it's about eight stories high with a direct view into the concentration camp.

01:29:21.000 And I said, wait, you're trying to tell me that just like everyday German citizens went home every single day and what they saw out their window was not a beach, a park, or people strolling, but a concentration camp?

01:29:31.000 Like, yeah.

01:29:33.000 So think about that, right?

01:29:34.000 So you think about a whole multiplex, multi-story apartment building where German citizens would open up their window every morning and night and see Dachau in an urban center. 0.64

01:29:42.000 So just think about how chilling that is. 0.82

01:29:44.000 Second, so then that didn't make a lot.

01:29:46.000 So, the first thing was the abdication and the normalization of the other by the citizenry.

01:29:51.000 The second of which, which now I fully understand, for the first time in this shutdown I've seen, I'm like, now I see how totalitarianism comes through.

01:30:02.000 I get it.

01:30:03.000 No more confusion, nothing but clarity.

01:30:06.000 People will do what they are told.

01:30:08.000 They will obey.

01:30:09.000 Bob pointed out when I was lamenting over this and trying to figure out a roadmap to lead the congregation.

01:30:17.000 Your wisdom was so valuable to me when you pointed out that it's knowledge that dispels fear.

01:30:27.000 And as we give them facts and we would bring in doctors and psychologists, and we've done 110 live streams, it did wonders for the congregation to be able to turn off this, you know, censorship and just look at facts and process them.

01:30:44.000 And it dispelled their fear.

01:30:46.000 And I can't tell you how invaluable that was to our fellowship, Bob.

01:30:50.000 It was brilliant.

01:30:51.000 You're a counsel to me.

01:30:52.000 If we survive, if we get through this successfully, years from now, we will look back at this and they will ask the same questions.

01:30:59.000 You mean it was a tenth as much as the flu?

01:31:02.000 And people shut down their businesses and lost their jobs.

01:31:05.000 And suicides went up dramatically.

01:31:07.000 And teenagers canceled their spring sports, their fall sports, their summer activities, their prom, their commencements.

01:31:12.000 You had social isolation, alcoholism, cocaine use, marijuana, all of that go through the roof.

01:31:17.000 All considered essential by the gods.

01:31:18.000 All considered essential.

01:31:19.000 Strip clubs open in Manhattan, but not churches.

01:31:21.000 Easter and Palm Sunday canceled.

01:31:23.000 Weeks and months on end of pastors abdicating.

01:31:25.000 And in the midst of it, we decided to take just a little time out so we could all go in the street for race riots to say how awful of a country we are with no masks on, millions of us saying how much we hate the country.

01:31:33.000 Then we went back inside after that halftime show of race riots.

01:31:37.000 No, no, no.

01:31:37.000 We went back in time after the halftime show to cancel the celebration of our nation's birthday.

01:31:44.000 No, that's right.

01:31:45.000 So just so when we write the history, people will be so perplexed and puzzled.

01:31:49.000 You know, I always, it's a very interesting thought exercise.

01:31:51.000 And John Rawls used to do this incorrectly. 1.00

01:31:54.000 He was an awful, silly, foolish philosopher. 0.99

01:31:56.000 He's Bill Clinton's favorite philosopher that tells you everything you need. 0.99

01:31:58.000 But he always said we need to look at, and he's not wrong on this thought experiment.

01:32:02.000 He was wrong with how he had the conclusion.

01:32:04.000 Look at things from an alien's perspective.

01:32:06.000 Like if someone came from outer space and you tried to explain this to them.

01:32:09.000 And I thought of that the other day.

01:32:10.000 I said, wow, this would be a really hard thing to explain because if the alien got the whole picture, they say, wait, you're a really wealthy, vibrant country.

01:32:17.000 Why do you have so many people that hate your country?

01:32:20.000 It would be really hard to explain, right?

01:32:22.000 From someone just materially outside.

01:32:25.000 And it's hard for someone from another country to explain, but it's even harder if someone just came and they said, my goodness.

01:32:30.000 And if you were to try to explain, wait a second, you locked yourself up for something that has been proven that young people cannot, young young people cannot carry it.

01:32:37.000 They're not little virus reactors.

01:32:39.000 Young people are not at risk of dying.

01:32:40.000 So you shut down the schools, you shut down the social fabric, and then you just disregard all that for like three weeks.

01:32:47.000 You avoid medicine that wants you to be exposed to build immunity.

01:32:50.000 Precisely.

01:32:50.000 And then you avoid all of it for three weeks between late May and mid-June to just go on the streets.

01:32:55.000 And you see in the imagery, I mean, people are packed together.

01:32:58.000 And then we're told once the virus increases that that had nothing to do with it.

01:33:02.000 And so it's really interesting because I think we make a little mistake.

01:33:04.000 I did a podcast on this.

01:33:06.000 We say the left lies.

01:33:08.000 And I think that's probably true, but it's not the most true statement because it's actually much more Orwellian than that.

01:33:15.000 So for example, Rob, if I go up to you and I'm like, hey, you know, I see you eating Oreos, like, hey, how many Oreos did you eat?

01:33:22.000 You're like, oh, I only ate three.

01:33:23.000 I mean, really, you ate 10.

01:33:24.000 That's a lie.

01:33:25.000 Well, okay, yeah, you're true.

01:33:26.000 Yeah.

01:33:27.000 Thanks for exposing me, but go ahead.

01:33:28.000 But then if I went up to you and I said, hey, Rob, how many Oreos did you eat?

01:33:32.000 And you have crumbs all over your face.

01:33:33.000 You're like, I didn't eat any.

01:33:35.000 You did.

01:33:36.000 That's double speak.

01:33:37.000 That's Orwellian.

01:33:38.000 It's not a lie.

01:33:40.000 It's an inverse of the truth.

01:33:42.000 Right?

01:33:42.000 So a lie is something that is degrees off from what is true.

01:33:46.000 Doublespeak as Orwell theorized, he created a new word, double think and double speak, of something that is so reflectively wrong and untrue that it doesn't even warrant the same categories.

01:33:58.000 That's what they do to us.

01:33:59.000 That's correct.

01:33:59.000 It's like where you say, you know, we ask the question, they ask like, well, we say America's a great place.

01:34:06.000 And then they come and say, no, you're a racist.

01:34:08.000 Like, wait, what?

01:34:09.000 I just said America's a great place.

01:34:10.000 What are you talking about?

01:34:11.000 And we don't even know how to deal with it.

01:34:13.000 And what Orwell theorized is that it's actually so asymmetrical for the human consciousness psychologically, like we're actually not capable of being able to deal with it.

01:34:21.000 And so Orwell was probably the most incredibly prophetic dystopian author.

01:34:25.000 And he was once a socialist, and then he actually went and saw what the socialists were all about, and he just became kind of a classical liberal.

01:34:31.000 He famously said that socialism is much more about hating the rich than helping the poor.

01:34:36.000 It's such a beautiful summation.

01:34:37.000 That's true.

01:34:38.000 And in 1984, he basically painted this picture.

01:34:41.000 And in his further writings, he said, human beings are not prepared for double think or double speak.

01:34:46.000 They're not.

01:34:47.000 Because you see this, right?

01:34:48.000 And he said, that's how you're going to control people in the submission.

01:34:51.000 Is when you say something that is so just like, what?

01:34:54.000 What did you just say?

01:34:55.000 I did not eat the Oreos.

01:34:56.000 Like, I did.

01:34:57.000 You're eating them.

01:34:58.000 Like, I see it.

01:34:59.000 It drives a person mad.

01:35:01.000 And it's by intelligent design that the left is doing this right now.

01:35:05.000 That's powerful.

01:35:06.000 You're exactly clear.

01:35:07.000 That's got me baffled.

01:35:08.000 You're exactly correct.

01:35:10.000 Yeah, that's where we are.

01:35:11.000 And so, because we know how to do lies.

01:35:13.000 It's almost like a conversation between two three-year-olds.

01:35:16.000 Yeah, in some ways, but it's not incorrect.

01:35:19.000 It's not incorrect because if you read the romantics, right, of the 1800s, and I don't like that term romantic because I call it the infants.

01:35:28.000 It really is.

01:35:29.000 Because if you read like Jean-Jacques Rousseau, he wrote very clearly that he values the primitive over the civilized, the infant over the adult, the passionate lover over the loyal spouse. 0.72

01:35:42.000 He said that the things that we have designed in Christian society are wrong.

01:35:47.000 And it's not that they're not desirable.

01:35:50.000 It's like, no, you should reject them.

01:35:52.000 And in some ways, when people say the left is a petulant child, it's actually very true.

01:35:59.000 So what did the Smithsonian do?

01:36:01.000 Exactly that?

01:36:02.000 So yeah, so exactly.

01:36:03.000 So the Smithsonian comes out, and I got very heated about it, where they say all these things that are constructs of Western society.

01:36:11.000 And we believe all men are created equal, but it'd be foolish to say all cultures are created equal.

01:36:16.000 I mean, that's a, of course there's a cultural hierarchy, and it's not racist at all to say that.

01:36:20.000 It's based in history. 0.89

01:36:21.000 I mean, we are just not the same culture as Islamic Iran. 0.68

01:36:26.000 I'm sorry.

01:36:28.000 But they said hard work, showing up on time.

01:36:30.000 That's right.

01:36:30.000 So what they say is...

01:36:31.000 Staying married.

01:36:32.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:36:32.000 That's all white things. 1.00

01:36:33.000 Yeah, they say fidelity.

01:36:34.000 So it's really interesting.

01:36:35.000 And the way I should have handled it on cable television, and I handled it, I think pretty well, went viral.

01:36:40.000 And I've gotten tons of response because I was up against a white liberal who said all those things.

01:36:44.000 And what I should have said is, so Leslie, let me just be straight.

01:36:47.000 You say, you say, speaking correctly, showing up to work on time, not committing crimes, going to church, like very basic things.

01:36:54.000 Being faithful to your spouse. 0.94

01:36:55.000 Are all terms of whiteness. 0.99

01:36:57.000 And I say, so you believe this? 0.99

01:36:59.000 She does.

01:36:59.000 It's like what you're saying is fundamentally no different than a KKK member in the 1920s.

01:37:05.000 That's exactly.

01:37:06.000 And that's the point I missed, right?

01:37:08.000 That's fine. 1.00

01:37:08.000 If you actually think what is righteous and what is good is an attribute of a skin. 1.00

01:37:13.000 I did call her a racist on air because it's true. 0.74

01:37:15.000 But it's no different than Margaret Sanger in the eugenicist movement. 0.57

01:37:19.000 Like, oh, only white people are capable of showing up on time.

01:37:23.000 And that's what our tax dollars for the Smithsonian were saying. 0.75

01:37:26.000 Yeah.

01:37:28.000 And it's so evil.

01:37:29.000 Just while you're on that point, the greatest correlation between income and any other factor, not race, education, gender, is vocabulary. 0.52

01:37:41.000 And so if a person starts pronouncing proper English, they'll attack that kid and say, well, you're acting white, to force him from being successful. 0.77

01:37:50.000 That's correct.

01:37:51.000 That is racism.

01:37:52.000 And Republicans don't do that.

01:37:54.000 No, we don't.

01:37:55.000 But we do know who does.

01:37:56.000 Well, I mean, and the greatest example of this, the greatest example, is the phenomenal hero of Clarence Thomas.

01:38:03.000 So Clarence Thomas, so that depiction of the Smithsonian you mentioned was a project of the National American, African American History Museum, right?

01:38:11.000 Interestingly enough, the one African American they don't have in there is Clarence Thomas.

01:38:15.000 Correct. 0.99

01:38:16.000 It's incredible.

01:38:17.000 And so Clarence Thomas being someone who the reason he does not speak is, and his biography will tell you this, and his biographer will tell you this, is he grew up in the antebellum South and he actually learned a different form of English.

01:38:31.000 Now, he's brilliant, right?

01:38:33.000 But at times, and you know Clarence, you know the family, but he's an American hero.

01:38:37.000 But according to the left, he shouldn't exist.

01:38:39.000 It's now available for those that are watching in his own words.

01:38:42.000 There's a documentary in which it describes that.

01:38:45.000 He's written more opinions than any member of the Supreme Court and has made a tremendous contribution.

01:38:52.000 And as such, unless you go with leftist orthodoxy, all book burning is done by socialists.

01:38:59.000 All shouting down is socialists.

01:39:01.000 And I don't know if we have time to go through for it.

01:39:03.000 I've got a couple minutes.

01:39:04.000 There's why it is.

01:39:06.000 See, truth overcomes error.

01:39:11.000 That's why error hates truth.

01:39:12.000 So you and I can say this room is 17 feet wide.

01:39:15.000 You say it's 16.

01:39:16.000 You say it's 13.

01:39:17.000 And we're all happy until somebody comes and measures it.

01:39:20.000 And that person that measures it says, well, it's actually 12.

01:39:24.000 Then immediately all of us know that we were wrong.

01:39:27.000 Therefore, we hate the person that revealed we were wrong.

01:39:30.000 As long as we could philosophize forever, as long as you say it's 13, and I say it's 17, he says it's 50.

01:39:34.000 We're happy as people.

01:39:35.000 But once you have truth, then it reveals error, and error hates truth.

01:39:41.000 That's number one.

01:39:42.000 Number two, truth overcomes error.

01:39:47.000 So I'm representing a person accused of stealing an ATM machine.

01:39:54.000 And the attorney gets up and she says why he wouldn't even think of such doing a thing.

01:39:58.000 He loves his mother, and he was having dinner with his sister in Portland, Oregon.

01:40:01.000 Here's the receipts from the filling station or from the restaurant where they were, and they go on.

01:40:06.000 You don't care what she says.

01:40:07.000 Because when she's finished, you're going to have a security camera that shows him driving up to the ATM.

01:40:13.000 And you'll see him put a chain around the ATM.

01:40:15.000 You'll see his face as he leans over the camera.

01:40:18.000 And you'll get his fingerprints as he pushes the finger.

01:40:20.000 And the truth will overcome the error such that the only way she can succeed, she has to prevent the presentation of truth.

01:40:35.000 And every time on these talk shows, when you start to make a point, they start talking over talking about you.

01:40:40.000 You let one little conservative, you can have 57 liberals come speak at a college campus.

01:40:45.000 You let one little conservative come, they all scream and yell and break it in.

01:40:47.000 Why?

01:40:48.000 Because truth overcomes error.

01:40:50.000 That's really in our scriptures.

01:40:52.000 Where does truth come from?

01:40:53.000 What's the measuring a lot?

01:40:55.000 He's the embodiment of truth.

01:40:56.000 So our founder, I am the truth.

01:40:58.000 Therefore, you can talk about any religion you want, but not Christ.

01:41:02.000 So I can pray at inaugural in the name of Mother Earth and flowers and eagle feathers, and nobody cares.

01:41:08.000 But you pray in the name of Jesus Christ, and all hell breaks loose.

01:41:12.000 Because I am the truth.

01:41:12.000 Why?

01:41:14.000 And so we hold these truths to be self-evident.

01:41:18.000 All men are created.

01:41:19.000 Now, who's a creator?

01:41:20.000 John 1.1, that in the beginning was the word.

01:41:22.000 The word was with God.

01:41:24.000 All things were made by him.

01:41:25.000 Without him was not anything made that was made.

01:41:27.000 And so therefore, that is our creator, gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time.

01:41:33.000 So they want to get rid of God so then they can take innocent life, so then they are in the process of taking our liberty.

01:41:38.000 And one party is dedicated to doing that, to taking God out of the Pledge of Allegiance, to taking God out of all those references, who then supports the taking of innocent life.

01:41:46.000 You cannot be, not only can you not be a candidate for office and support life.

01:41:51.000 I met with a series of Democrat consultants, and these Democrat consultants explained to them that they, when they go to, if they support a Democrat candidate for office who is pro-life, that they will be blackballed by the National Committee.

01:42:06.000 They'll never be able to do it again.

01:42:08.000 So the Democrat Party is committed to doing away with God, with life.

01:42:11.000 And of course, we have this confrontation with our liberty.

01:42:14.000 And the only person who says that the parties are all alike are a person that doesn't know about either one.

01:42:21.000 I was thinking it'd be a good thing to kind of close with from my vantage point, because I'm kind of the observer of the three.

01:42:30.000 And Charlie, being here with you in Phoenix and witnessing kind of the updates of Turning Point, and then Bob spending time with you and seeing how God's just remarkably used you and just this wisdom that you're imparting and the combination.

01:42:46.000 It's like nitro and glycerin.

01:42:47.000 This is going to be profound for the young people of the country.

01:42:50.000 But Charlie, at 18 years of age, I get to hear the story.

01:42:53.000 You go and set up a coffee table and you confront deception and lies.

01:43:03.000 And then here we are, you're at 26 and a profound change has occurred.

01:43:08.000 And something's happening beyond anything you could have ever have dreamed.

01:43:11.000 That's right.

01:43:13.000 And what hit me as Bob was talking is that if all the lights in this room were to be pitch black and we were to seal every nook and cranny where we couldn't see our hand in front of our face, you'd light one candle and that would be the focal point of the room.

01:43:28.000 Because no matter how much darkness prevails, one light, it becomes the focal point.

01:43:34.000 People are drawn to it like Ma's.

01:43:36.000 And I want that to be an encouragement to the listeners of viewers that when you're on the side of truth and you light that candle, it doesn't matter how much darkness prevails.

01:43:48.000 It becomes the center point of the room.

01:43:50.000 Stand with that.

01:43:51.000 Light that candle.

01:43:52.000 Amen.

01:43:53.000 Let it be a beacon for folks to be drawn to.

01:43:56.000 Don't despair over that.

01:43:58.000 And the last point is this, I want to piggyback, and I know we have to wrap, is people say, well, what can I do?

01:44:04.000 What can I do?

01:44:05.000 And I have a very strong opinion about this.

01:44:07.000 And even more so, don't allow lies or injustice to come across your radar screen without you doing something about it.

01:44:17.000 Stand.

01:44:17.000 And so, but it's even the little things, right?

01:44:20.000 And I'm the type of person that if I see the strong abusing the weak, I get involved.

01:44:26.000 That means if I see someone at a grocery store who's abusing a kid, I say something, right?

01:44:33.000 If I see someone at the side of the corner doing something incorrectly to an elderly person, I say something.

01:44:39.000 Now, those are actually uncommon because we live in a very decent country.

01:44:44.000 But more commonly, when I say someone say something that's untrue about my country or about God, I do something about it.

01:44:52.000 And that doesn't mean you have to pick every single fight, but someone listening to this knows exactly the fight that they've been delaying.

01:44:57.000 Yep.

01:44:57.000 Or not, it's not a fight in the sense of being, you know, it's a fear that's paralyzing.

01:45:02.000 But right.

01:45:03.000 Or it's, you know, boy, I keep going to that Bible study and they just keep saying things about BLM, but I listen to this show and I know better.

01:45:11.000 Then the problem that doesn't confront multiplies. 0.56

01:45:14.000 The reason you get a Vladimir Lenin is not just because Lenin got exported from Austria and ended World War I and had a sinister Marxist ideology.

01:45:23.000 No, it was it was he it was all the little mini injustices and mini totalitarians that existed.

01:45:30.000 It was the millions of people that then became oppressive to their wife. 0.99

01:45:34.000 It was all the mini Lenins that then populated the country. 1.00

01:45:37.000 He's like, oh, he could do that, then I could do that. 0.99

01:45:39.000 And so all of a sudden, if we're a country from the, I think, I bet the best, I know the best change comes from the bottom up.

01:45:46.000 And someone's like, oh, what can I do, macro?

01:45:48.000 Like, what if you did something that's just being a heroic, normal person?

01:45:53.000 Yeah.

01:45:54.000 And someone's like, oh, should I run for Congress?

01:45:56.000 Like, that's probably an overstep for most people, honestly.

01:46:00.000 Let your light so shine before men.

01:46:02.000 How about when you're at dinner with your family?

01:46:04.000 Yeah.

01:46:05.000 You don't, respectfully, compassionately, and lovingly, you make sure everyone is very clear about everything we've talked about here.

01:46:12.000 And they don't have to agree with you, but they're exposed to it.

01:46:14.000 And then the truth will let it just fester.

01:46:17.000 It just will.

01:46:19.000 And so I'm a big believer in that.

01:46:20.000 And I think that we as conservatives kind of allow that to just kind of all these injustices that come across our radar screens so often.

01:46:28.000 When you stand in truth, God expands the tent stakes and gives you a greater influence.

01:46:32.000 And you're a perfect example of that, Charlie.

01:46:34.000 And you too, Bob.

01:46:35.000 Well, and honor to be with you guys.

01:46:36.000 But it's easy to get dispirited.

01:46:38.000 It's easy to get disgruntled.

01:46:39.000 Like, oh, but what is it?

01:46:41.000 It's less about winning at times, that little.

01:46:43.000 It's more about doing the actual act of standing.

01:46:46.000 God wins.

01:46:47.000 We just got to stand.

01:46:48.000 That's right.

01:46:49.000 So, all right, Bob.

01:46:50.000 We want to wish Rob our admiration, respect.

01:46:54.000 Rob's an American hero.

01:46:55.000 He's an American.

01:46:55.000 He's a pastor.

01:46:57.000 And this has got to come to an end so that we can historically look back to it with the era that it is.

01:47:03.000 But people have to begin to stand, and you're the one that's standing.

01:47:06.000 And we're going to pray and encourage you as you proceed.

01:47:10.000 Thank you.

01:47:10.000 Because this country is worth saving the entire world.

01:47:12.000 I'll just tell you, in 2016, I think I did nine presidential prayer breakfasts around the globe.

01:47:17.000 And as they would go to meet, you have to represent the diplomatic corps and the parliament and the administration.

01:47:21.000 And they would always pray for their own country in Ukraine.

01:47:24.000 They prayed about the invasion from the Russians, etc.

01:47:27.000 But they always prayed for the leadership of the United States of America.

01:47:30.000 The scripture says, if you take a city, you must bind a strong man.

01:47:32.000 There's only one strong man in the world.

01:47:34.000 The world knows you take down America.

01:47:36.000 Everybody else is a piece of cake.

01:47:37.000 And there's nothing they can do about it except pray and hope.

01:47:41.000 We have it in our hands to make sure that we show up and bring others with us to preserve this, the greatest hope in the history of man.

01:47:47.000 Can I close in prayer?

01:47:48.000 Yeah, but first, Bob, is there any way that you want people to stay in touch with you?

01:47:52.000 Anything else?

01:47:53.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:53.000 Well, I'm beginning to get over the hump of being able to say that as I hear people ask questions, the DVD Politics Easiest Pie does explain these things, the scriptural underpinning and why some nations are rich and some nations are poor, why some people are rich and why some people are poor.

01:48:11.000 And so at BobMcEwen.com, they could get a copy of that.

01:48:15.000 And I think it might be helpful in the arguments, particularly grandparents or something that want to give it to their grandchildren or have a template in which someone could say, why is America wealthy when you go across a river and suddenly everything falls apart?

01:48:28.000 There's no air conditioning and they can't drink the water.

01:48:30.000 Why is that?

01:48:30.000 The ground hadn't changed.

01:48:31.000 The air hadn't changed.

01:48:32.000 Something changed.

01:48:33.000 And America is the testimony to that.

01:48:35.000 Rob.

01:48:35.000 Oh, for me?

01:48:36.000 Close us in prayer and also tell us about it.

01:48:39.000 Rob underscore McCoy underscore is my Instagram.

01:48:42.000 Amen.

01:48:42.000 Let me pray.

01:48:43.000 Lord, thank you for Charlie.

01:48:44.000 Thank you for Bob.

01:48:45.000 And thank you, Lord, for all the folks tuning in that just have a love for this nation and realize that this is a great gift from you.

01:48:52.000 That this is a nation that cherishes liberty, and liberty is not man's idea.

01:48:56.000 It's your idea.

01:48:57.000 And you've come to set the captives free.

01:48:58.000 And upon this we stand, and we can do no less.

01:49:01.000 And so, Lord, I pray that you would just continue to create this awakening across the land and cause men and women to be dispelled, that their fear would dissipate and that faith would rise and that they would realize that one person in God constitutes a majority.

01:49:16.000 And if, Lord, they fear you, they don't need to fear anything else.

01:49:19.000 So, Lord, do this awakening.

01:49:21.000 We implore you.

01:49:22.000 We beg you.

01:49:23.000 And I thank you again for these men.

01:49:24.000 And we ask your blessing.

01:49:25.000 And in Jesus' name, amen.

01:49:28.000 Here, here.

01:49:28.000 Thank you both.

01:49:30.000 Tune in soon, guys.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 19, 2020

The 1619 Lie, Systemic Racism Debunked, and America’s Foundation of Freedoms with Congressman Bob McEwan And Pastor Rob McCoy

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