00:00:42.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:50.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:47.000All of this strengthens Trump's case for 2024.
00:01:54.000Donald Trump running for the presidency, standing against neoliberalism, open borders, silly trade deals, and interventionist foreign wars is how he will differentiate himself, amongst many other things.
00:02:06.000Obviously, the fact that he was actually president, he got a lot done.
00:02:10.000These people say they're running for president.
00:02:12.000Nikki Haley says she's running for president.
00:02:14.000Tim Scott says he is running for president.
00:02:16.000But in reality, they are running against Donald Trump.
00:03:14.000And if it wasn't for all the nonsense and the shenanigans and the drop boxes and the zucker boxes and all this nonsense, I think Donald Trump would have won again in 2020, not to mention COVID and all of the hysteria.
00:03:26.000Yeah, one of our team members says, for the life of me, I can't find the 2024 primary schedule.
00:03:32.000I don't think it's published yet, actually.
00:03:33.000I think it's all somewhat speculative.
00:03:40.000Yeah, the DNC is Iowa with South Carolina on February 3rd, but Republicans have not yet made their decision of what they're doing, which means that they're probably going to have Iowa as a standalone deal on February 3rd, which means we are less than a year away, everybody.
00:03:54.000So here's how this is going to unfold.
00:03:55.000You're going to have a lot of people come out with books.
00:04:16.000Can you get a picture of Tim Scott's book?
00:04:18.000Get a cover of Tim Scott's book, Marco Rubio's book, and Nikki Haley's book, and just look at all of them, one after the other.
00:04:25.000It's like the same sort of thing with some sort of platitudinal title.
00:04:29.000And you read it, and it's like the same five, six stories kind of regurgitated with some biographical details.
00:04:36.000And they must have the Reagan quote: freedom is no more than one generation away from extinction.
00:04:41.000By the way, I'm not making fun of these people.
00:04:43.000I'm just nauseated with these books because I get them sent to me.
00:04:46.000I have a whole room full of political books that people send to me, some of which are fabulous, like Claydon's book, which I can't wait to read, but kind of the I'm running for president, excuse me, and I want an excuse to get on television book.
00:05:01.000I have very little desire to read that, right?
00:05:04.000Senator Mike Lee's book was actually an exception to that.
00:05:06.000It was fabulous because he's not running for president.
00:05:08.000He's like one of the few members of the Senate that is not running for president.
00:05:26.000I mean, if you look at what the American transportation systems have faced in the last two or three years, partly because of the pandemic, we've faced issues from container shipping to airline cancellations.
00:06:48.000Okay, so our people, yeah, the muscular class.
00:06:50.000So you're saying that muscular class, white, upper-middle-class Christians, and I don't say any of this negatively, it's just the fact they disproportionately vote in Republican primaries.
00:07:02.000And he, you know, the former president does have a secret weapon, which is worth noting.
00:07:07.000And I, you know, it depends on whether he can get them to vote in a primary.
00:07:12.000But in all of the polling we did in 2022, the reason, whether it was Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, wherever it was, he was running ahead of generic Republicans for Congress and he was running ahead of Senate candidates.
00:07:25.000And we've had now some time to dive into this and look at it.
00:07:29.000The reason why is that he was running stronger than other Republicans among working class non-whites in urban areas, which was interesting.
00:07:38.000So Clark County, Nevada, maybe Lombardo was down only four, but Trump had a slight lead in Clark, slight lead.
00:07:45.000So it's going to be tough to get those people to vote, Charlie.
00:07:49.000But if he does, that's something else people should really keep an eye out for.
00:07:54.000So that's fascinating to me for a variety of reasons.
00:07:57.000I think he will be able to get them out.
00:08:00.000And none of these candidates really want to admit it.
00:08:02.000And they're going to do their own way of saying it.
00:08:05.000But this is a attempt to go after Trump.
00:08:08.000And there's also some unknown factors here.
00:08:11.000And so, Rich, let me ask you a completely unknown variable here that I think would be unconstitutional.
00:08:20.000I think it would be wrong, but it is possible.
00:08:22.000Let's say Georgia indicts Donald Trump.
00:08:25.000Do you think that, how does that help him maybe in a Republican primary?
00:08:30.000Yeah, I've learned not to underestimate this man.
00:08:34.000You know, if it was anybody else, obviously it would be a campaign and career ender, but he's he could very much be a different story.
00:08:42.000And that would be, I think it would be stupid because Georgia is actually one of those states where it's possible, depending because of where they are on the calendar, depending on how those earlier states shape up, it's possible that that's an area where anti-Trump maybe could get a win by that time.
00:08:58.000Of course, there are a lot of factors that go into that, but you said it's a plan.
00:09:03.000People should remember in 2016, the nomination, there was this very cobbled together, last minute, last ditch effort to stop Trump by Mitt Romney.
00:09:13.000He laid out the doctrine for it at the University of Utah, where he said, if you're in Florida, vote for Marco Rubio.
00:09:19.000If you're in Ohio, vote for John Kasich.
00:09:21.000This is part of a plan that has been in motion since they abandoned people like Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania.
00:09:28.000They didn't help Kerry Lake as much as they could have in Arizona.
00:09:31.000They didn't want Trump governors in these battleground states.
00:09:34.000Now they're going to have people like Nikki Haley in South Carolina, Tim Scott jump into the race.
00:09:40.000They're trying to get Ron DeSantis to jump in in Florida.
00:09:43.000Any of these states, especially the early states, they want John Sununan in New Hampshire.
00:09:52.000They want him because they want him to stop Donald Trump in New Hampshire and down the line.
00:09:56.000So they're putting together a more comprehensive plan that's based on what they did in 16.
00:10:03.000It's just that in 16, they didn't have much time to do it.
00:10:05.000Now they have a whole election cycle to try to put it together.
00:10:11.000Rents are soaring at unprecedented highs.
00:10:14.000If you're renting or have a friend or family member, that is now is a great time to make the move to homeownership.
00:10:20.000Look, you got to own renting, that's great reset stuff.
00:10:23.000Andrew Del Rey and Todd Avakian at Sierra Pacific Mortgage have helped so many people make that leap from renting to owning with lots of programs that offer first-time buyers assistance with little to no down payment needed.
00:10:36.000I encourage you right now to visit my buddies, their website.
00:12:10.000Do you think that she might have some appeal or do you think she's politically dead on arrival?
00:12:16.000You know, I it will have to see how the rest of the field shapes out because there will be, Charlie, an anti-Trump vote that they're going to be trying to coalesce behind somebody.
00:12:28.000And I can see them doing that by Nikki Haley.
00:12:30.000She will raise money, ladies and gentlemen.
00:12:42.000You know what I'm thinking, though, Charlie?
00:12:44.000I'm thinking of the State of the Union speech Joe Biden just gave, where somebody like Nikki Haley, if she was to be a real contender or even blur the image of a modern Republican in the minds of persuadable voters, it could be dangerous to Republicans.
00:12:59.000And I say that because Joe Biden made the remark, which was booed, you know, that basically said there are Republicans out there who want to cut Social Security and want to cut Medicare.
00:13:09.000If Nikki Haley's wing of the party had won in 2016, what Joe Biden said would have been true.
00:13:16.000And then you can kiss Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and maybe even Ohio goodbye.
00:13:21.000This is why Donald Trump can turn those states into Ohio plus eights and Iowa plus eights and razor-thin margins in Michigan.
00:13:29.000And he still barely lost it in 2020, even when he lost it.
00:13:32.000With all the nonsense and all the shenanigans and the drop boxes and the social media interference and all that.
00:13:39.000So, Rich, you know, let me ask you a question here.
00:14:17.000I will treat you with respect and dignity.
00:14:19.000Obviously, I'm going to be wearing my Trump jersey, but you're going to have to learn to talk to people that are Trump voters.
00:14:23.000If you want to win the nomination in this primary, welcome on the show anytime and we'll have a spirited conversation of our disagreements.
00:14:53.000They were able to close, they meaning the Democrats, they were able to close a so-called advantage in what we refer to as the efficiency of your vote, right?
00:15:03.000And Republicans, especially in midterms, are supposed to have this wide advantage on voting efficiency by congressional district.
00:15:09.000They were able to do that because of vote harvesting.
00:15:12.000And if you want to win, you have to play the game.
00:16:44.000We will never get back into political power again in our country if we do not embrace building a robust, sophisticated, precise machine ready for victory.
00:17:11.000But what do you see as leading indicators or trends, things that our candidates should become fluent in?
00:17:16.000Things that you see that can build consensus with swing voters?
00:17:20.000What are one or two issues that even might be a little heterodox that you think, hey, we got to zero in on this, and this could help us win on the margins in 2024?
00:17:30.000Yeah, I think the economic message is kind of one, Charlie, and it just doesn't matter.
00:17:35.000It's a matter of whether you get those voters to the polls.
00:17:37.000I think that's a matter of whether you get those voters to the polls or not.
00:17:41.000I think we're in an area where there are new culture war issues that unfortunately Republicans did not grab onto and run with.
00:17:50.000Look at how popular Governor Glenn Yunkin is.
00:17:53.000When we poll around the country nationally and we ask about some of these issues that Yunkin really championed and ran with, you know, they're no-brainers to people.
00:18:02.000And we sat there kind of silent on the abortion issue and we let them or well, we, the Republican Party candidates, are going to let them play offense on that issue when they left the transgender and the kids issues off the table.
00:18:20.000It's this general feeling that their culture and way of life is being attacked and there's nobody there to defend them.
00:18:28.000And there's no line being drawn saying this is where public parties stand on these issues.
00:18:33.000Everywhere that we do see those lines drawn, Democrats lose.
00:18:37.000So, you know, when you're looking for an extra point, two, three points here and there, these new culture war issues, that's where I really would encourage people to take those reins and run with them.
00:18:50.000So I was really excited today when I said this is Trump's best at his best because Trump has a very blunt way of communicating, obviously, but he has a way of diving into an overly complex issue and branding it in a way that can win.
00:19:05.000And the trans issue is like a trillion-dollar bill waiting for Donald Trump to just make fun of it and make light of it.
00:19:12.000Like you got a dude with a beer and a dress and none of it makes sense.
00:19:15.000It's just, you could, he could just do an endless shtick on it.
00:19:19.000So Donald Trump says, good riddance to the failed woke extremist Nicola Sturgeon of Scotland.
00:19:25.000This crazed leftist symbolizes everything wrong with identity politics.
00:19:28.000Sturgeon thought it was okay to put a biological man in a woman's prison.
00:19:32.000If that wasn't bad enough, Sturgeon fought for a gender recognition reform bill that would have allowed 16-year-old children to change their gender without medical advice.
00:19:58.000And it's a no-brainer because it's not, we're not at a point now, Charlie, where it's winnable.
00:20:05.000I was just getting my car inspected for annual registration yesterday.
00:20:09.000You know, young 20-something, black male, and the woman behind the counter, Hispanic, both of them talking about this kind of stuff that's going on in the country right now.
00:20:20.000They're like, you know, we got fake aliens invading and men wearing dresses.
00:20:44.000What do you see in the poll and what do you see in the chatter?
00:20:46.000If you were to say, okay, Donald Trump is obviously the favorite, basically bulletproof.
00:20:50.000But what attack vectors do you think would say, okay, those are areas he has to share up.
00:20:55.000You know, I'm with the late Rush Limbaugh on this, Charlie, real quick.
00:20:59.000People who are still Trump supporters, that still, though, they remember how turbulent sometimes things were, they want him to just focus on what he has that nobody else has, which is he's the only one who can say, I did this.
00:21:23.000I mean, Grover Cleveland lost his reelection bid, but the country begged him four years later to come back because everything Grover Cleveland said over free silver and economics and everything he said was going to happen happened.
00:21:35.000When he came back, all he had to do was say, I did this.
00:21:39.000I'm the only one who has a record of doing it.
00:21:42.000They can make promises, but I have a record of keeping them.
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00:23:47.000So, I'm a newbie to Rumble, which I absolutely love at Kimberly Guilfoyle.
00:23:51.000And, you know, as you know, Charlie, every single day they are trying to cancel America First Republicans, people that love this country, that believe in the freedom of expression.
00:24:04.000That's why shows like yours are so important, which was a big trendsetter leading the way, paving the way for other patriots to be able to follow the example that you've set.
00:24:13.000And it's very disturbing and distressing to me as a first-generation American living in this country and being able to enjoy the American dream that I would wake up one day and they were canceling people because of what they believe in.
00:24:26.000Not radical ideas, just ideas that are really amazing, like your group, Turning Point USA, has been promoting across the country, which is we don't need big government.
00:24:36.000We've seen big government fail, as you know, really exponentially with the Biden administration.
00:24:42.000It is just completely an absentee landlord, you know, occupying the White House with no ideas, no innovation, no foreign policy, no national security, no idea about infrastructure and manufacturing, and completely destroying lives across this country of the hardworking Americans, the middle class who truly love this country, that stand for the flag, that stand for choice in education, that stand for not forcing vaccinations upon people and ruining their lives.
00:25:10.000And that's why the work that you're doing is so important.
00:25:12.000I want to be one of those active voices, as I have in the past and at all your events, to stand for the people that believe in what we believe in.
00:25:21.000Really quick, KG, just tell us about the importance of Rumble.
00:25:28.000Just tell us about it and why everyone should download the Rumble app.
00:25:31.000You know, I love it because it's, you know, it's news done right without the filter of fake news, without the filter of censorship, suppression, without the filter of, you know, people sitting there saying, well, our ideas are the only ideas you should have.
00:25:50.000We will be the marketplace of ideas to be able to get out there.
00:25:52.000So, whether it's your show uploading Don Jr. show, which has been doing fantastic, and myself being able to have that opportunity, I love it.
00:26:00.000I know my parents would be very proud for me to be on this forum and be on this server because we won't be canceled.
00:26:06.000We can say what we think and what we believe and what we feel in our hearts.
00:26:09.000We can do impressive, you know, really important interviews with people across this country to highlight what's going on, whether it's at the border or, like I said, national security, finding out the truth.
00:26:20.000Like the United States knew about the China spy balloon, okay, for a week before it even went onto U.S. soil.
00:26:36.000And people wouldn't know that because they're afraid to report the actual news, or in fact, they want to shapeshift it.
00:26:42.000And that's why we need to be loud, strong, proud voices and unafraid to tell the truth about what's going on.
00:26:49.000I had the opportunity to do that for years and years, obviously at Fox, and then to fight for my father-in-law across the country when he was running for office.
00:26:56.000And these are the principles and values and ideals that I am proud to stand for and stand amongst patriots, you know, like yourself.
00:27:04.000And, you know, Charlie, you're a new father, you're your beautiful wife, Erica, my friend.
00:27:09.000And, you know, we need to leave this country in a better position than we inherited it.
00:27:40.000I got this story sent to me about like 57 times last night and all the reporters reaching out to me for comment, but I'm giving it to you, Charlie.
00:27:52.000Have you ever seen me to be someone that is led by others, like in some cult mentality that I would like, oh, I fell prey to the culture at Box?
00:28:00.000No, I have been a proud, okay, Republican and conservative registering as a Republican, 18 years of age, attending UC Davis, which has gone a little crazy, and a member of the Young Republicans party there.
00:28:24.000He used to be so proud to fight for small businesses, for entrepreneurs, for those hardworking men and women.
00:28:31.000And he's fallen prey to the left, the radical left that is pushing him so far to the left that it's unrecognizable.
00:28:38.000This is somebody who was a small business owner who worked very hard to try to bring those jobs and energy to San Francisco and not penalize people with small businesses.
00:28:47.000Now, as governor of California, he is destroying them.
00:28:51.000There has to be some accountability there.
00:28:56.000So he has to take ownership for his policies that are literally, people are fleeing that state.
00:29:02.000Every single day, I meet people that are moving to Florida and Texas and other states that share our values, where they can be entrepreneurs, where, you know, single mothers to middle class hardworking Americans are respected.
00:29:14.000You have seen the policy of the left on highlight, okay, in California.
00:29:44.000God bless to my mother, Mercedes, who came from Laguadia.
00:29:47.000My father from NS and County Clare, Ireland.
00:29:49.000And I was given the opportunities of a lifetime.
00:29:51.000And I loved my city and I fought for it as a prosecutor and I fought for it as a first lady of San Francisco, not a first partner, a first lady, okay, versus his wife who calls herself the first partner.
00:30:02.000So really quick, I got to ask you, you know, Kimberly, just looking at Gavin Newsom, he seems to be more ambitious than Lucifer.
00:30:08.000Do you think he's going to run for president?