The Charlie Kirk Show - The 2024 Horse Race with Rich Baris and Kimberly Guilfoyle

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00:00:01.000 Rich Barris joins us to talk 2024.

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00:01:11.000 The 2024 landscape is developing, and it's going to be a very long, tiring primary.

00:01:22.000 A year from now, we're going to be right in the middle of it.

00:01:26.000 And so we have Nikki Haley, who is officially announced.

00:01:29.000 Tim Scott, who looks like he's going to run, Mike Pence, who's probably going to run.

00:01:32.000 Mike Pompeo, who's probably going to run.

00:01:36.000 Whispers are that friend of the show, Vivek Ramaswamy, might run for president.

00:01:42.000 And then, of course, Donald Trump is running.

00:01:45.000 I think all of this helps Trump.

00:01:47.000 All of this strengthens Trump's case for 2024.

00:01:54.000 Donald Trump running for the presidency, standing against neoliberalism, open borders, silly trade deals, and interventionist foreign wars is how he will differentiate himself, amongst many other things.

00:02:06.000 Obviously, the fact that he was actually president, he got a lot done.

00:02:10.000 These people say they're running for president.

00:02:12.000 Nikki Haley says she's running for president.

00:02:14.000 Tim Scott says he is running for president.

00:02:16.000 But in reality, they are running against Donald Trump.

00:02:19.000 That is the reality of it.

00:02:20.000 They're not going to say it.

00:02:21.000 They're not going to try to insult Trump voters, but they are going to be running against Donald Trump.

00:02:26.000 And I actually think that helps Trump.

00:02:29.000 I think Trump will be able to navigate that successfully.

00:02:32.000 The more kind of targets, the better.

00:02:35.000 And they're going to start attacking each other because they're going to try to fill up the different lanes.

00:02:41.000 Now, whether or not Ted Cruz is going to run for president, that will be interesting.

00:02:44.000 If Marco Rubio run for president, that will be interesting.

00:02:49.000 Will Glenn Young run for president?

00:02:51.000 Will Greg Abbott run for president?

00:02:54.000 These are all very interesting questions.

00:02:55.000 Will Larry Hogan run for president?

00:02:58.000 I think all of it helps Donald Trump in many different ways.

00:03:03.000 And, you know, some people say, well, Charlie Trump can't win a general. 0.95

00:03:06.000 That's such a silly argument.

00:03:07.000 He's the only one running that has actually won the presidency. 0.86

00:03:10.000 They're the ones that have to prove they can't win a general.

00:03:13.000 Trump won a general.

00:03:14.000 And if it wasn't for all the nonsense and the shenanigans and the drop boxes and the zucker boxes and all this nonsense, I think Donald Trump would have won again in 2020, not to mention COVID and all of the hysteria.

00:03:26.000 Yeah, one of our team members says, for the life of me, I can't find the 2024 primary schedule.

00:03:32.000 I don't think it's published yet, actually.

00:03:33.000 I think it's all somewhat speculative.

00:03:35.000 I don't know if it's been decided.

00:03:37.000 I think that's actually still being hammered out.

00:03:39.000 That's right.

00:03:39.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:03:40.000 Yeah, the DNC is Iowa with South Carolina on February 3rd, but Republicans have not yet made their decision of what they're doing, which means that they're probably going to have Iowa as a standalone deal on February 3rd, which means we are less than a year away, everybody.

00:03:54.000 So here's how this is going to unfold.

00:03:55.000 You're going to have a lot of people come out with books.

00:03:58.000 That's what they always do.

00:03:59.000 They're going to come out with book deals.

00:03:59.000 Do.

00:04:01.000 And they're all the same sort of what I call them political popcorn written, copy-pasted, ghost-written book of my journey.

00:04:08.000 And they're kind of wearing a shirt, never a tie with the sleeves rolled up.

00:04:13.000 And they kind of like this.

00:04:16.000 Can you get a picture of Tim Scott's book?

00:04:18.000 Get a cover of Tim Scott's book, Marco Rubio's book, and Nikki Haley's book, and just look at all of them, one after the other.

00:04:25.000 It's like the same sort of thing with some sort of platitudinal title.

00:04:29.000 And you read it, and it's like the same five, six stories kind of regurgitated with some biographical details.

00:04:36.000 And they must have the Reagan quote: freedom is no more than one generation away from extinction.

00:04:41.000 By the way, I'm not making fun of these people.

00:04:43.000 I'm just nauseated with these books because I get them sent to me.

00:04:46.000 I have a whole room full of political books that people send to me, some of which are fabulous, like Claydon's book, which I can't wait to read, but kind of the I'm running for president, excuse me, and I want an excuse to get on television book.

00:05:01.000 I have very little desire to read that, right?

00:05:04.000 Senator Mike Lee's book was actually an exception to that.

00:05:06.000 It was fabulous because he's not running for president.

00:05:08.000 He's like one of the few members of the Senate that is not running for president.

00:05:12.000 Let's go to this one here.

00:05:15.000 Pete Buttigieg might run for president if Joe Biden does it.

00:05:18.000 Let's play Cut 35.

00:05:20.000 Couldn't be a more exciting time for transportation.

00:05:23.000 It's had its challenges.

00:05:25.000 Right.

00:05:26.000 I mean, if you look at what the American transportation systems have faced in the last two or three years, partly because of the pandemic, we've faced issues from container shipping to airline cancellations.

00:05:40.000 Now we got balloons.

00:05:41.000 That's right.

00:05:47.000 But also the best time ever to be working transportation because of these resources.

00:05:52.000 So how should we think about the 2024 race?

00:05:56.000 There's a lot of interest in the horse race, DeSantis, Pompeo.

00:06:01.000 What is the strength of Donald Trump right now in the Republican primary?

00:06:05.000 You know, I mean, there's a long way in politics.

00:06:08.000 It's a long way away, Charlie.

00:06:09.000 But, you know, some of the private stuff we've done and some of the other polling, you know, that we've seen people we know and trust do.

00:06:17.000 The former president did lose some support over a couple of about six weeks, eight weeks ago.

00:06:24.000 And it does seem to have rebounded somewhat.

00:06:26.000 But as we put more names onto this, we'll have to see how it takes shape.

00:06:31.000 But the bottom line is, Charlie, a Republican primary will be dominated by non-working class voters.

00:06:36.000 And until other candidates break through that demographic, he's going to be tough to beat.

00:06:41.000 But you said that it'll be dominated by non-working class voters.

00:06:45.000 Oh, excuse me, non-college working-class voters.

00:06:48.000 Okay, so our people, yeah, the muscular class.

00:06:50.000 So you're saying that muscular class, white, upper-middle-class Christians, and I don't say any of this negatively, it's just the fact they disproportionately vote in Republican primaries.

00:07:00.000 Is that correct?

00:07:01.000 That's correct.

00:07:02.000 And he, you know, the former president does have a secret weapon, which is worth noting.

00:07:07.000 And I, you know, it depends on whether he can get them to vote in a primary.

00:07:12.000 But in all of the polling we did in 2022, the reason, whether it was Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, wherever it was, he was running ahead of generic Republicans for Congress and he was running ahead of Senate candidates.

00:07:25.000 And we've had now some time to dive into this and look at it.

00:07:29.000 The reason why is that he was running stronger than other Republicans among working class non-whites in urban areas, which was interesting.

00:07:38.000 So Clark County, Nevada, maybe Lombardo was down only four, but Trump had a slight lead in Clark, slight lead.

00:07:45.000 So it's going to be tough to get those people to vote, Charlie.

00:07:49.000 But if he does, that's something else people should really keep an eye out for.

00:07:54.000 So that's fascinating to me for a variety of reasons.

00:07:57.000 I think he will be able to get them out.

00:08:00.000 And none of these candidates really want to admit it.

00:08:02.000 And they're going to do their own way of saying it.

00:08:05.000 But this is a attempt to go after Trump.

00:08:08.000 And there's also some unknown factors here.

00:08:11.000 And so, Rich, let me ask you a completely unknown variable here that I think would be unconstitutional.

00:08:18.000 I think it would be unfair.

00:08:20.000 I think it would be wrong, but it is possible.

00:08:22.000 Let's say Georgia indicts Donald Trump.

00:08:25.000 Do you think that, how does that help him maybe in a Republican primary?

00:08:30.000 Yeah, I've learned not to underestimate this man.

00:08:34.000 You know, if it was anybody else, obviously it would be a campaign and career ender, but he's he could very much be a different story.

00:08:42.000 And that would be, I think it would be stupid because Georgia is actually one of those states where it's possible, depending because of where they are on the calendar, depending on how those earlier states shape up, it's possible that that's an area where anti-Trump maybe could get a win by that time.

00:08:58.000 Of course, there are a lot of factors that go into that, but you said it's a plan. 0.95

00:09:01.000 And I just want to add to that.

00:09:03.000 People should remember in 2016, the nomination, there was this very cobbled together, last minute, last ditch effort to stop Trump by Mitt Romney.

00:09:13.000 He laid out the doctrine for it at the University of Utah, where he said, if you're in Florida, vote for Marco Rubio.

00:09:19.000 If you're in Ohio, vote for John Kasich.

00:09:21.000 This is part of a plan that has been in motion since they abandoned people like Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania.

00:09:28.000 They didn't help Kerry Lake as much as they could have in Arizona.

00:09:31.000 They didn't want Trump governors in these battleground states. 0.72

00:09:34.000 Now they're going to have people like Nikki Haley in South Carolina, Tim Scott jump into the race.

00:09:40.000 They're trying to get Ron DeSantis to jump in in Florida.

00:09:43.000 Any of these states, especially the early states, they want John Sununan in New Hampshire.

00:09:48.000 Why?

00:09:49.000 Do they want him because they want him to be president?

00:09:51.000 I don't think so.

00:09:52.000 They want him because they want him to stop Donald Trump in New Hampshire and down the line.

00:09:56.000 So they're putting together a more comprehensive plan that's based on what they did in 16.

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00:11:13.000 Let's play Cut 69, which is Nikki Haley's presidential announcement from today, Play Cut 69.

00:11:30.000 So, Rich, I just want to comment a couple of things.

00:11:32.000 Generally packed audience, good optics, seems enthusiastic.

00:11:36.000 Ralph Norman, who has been the House Freedom Caucus, great man.

00:11:39.000 I saw him this last weekend, surprisingly endorsed to Red Out of the Gate.

00:11:42.000 They must have a really long-lasting friendship.

00:11:44.000 That's something I certainly respect and appreciate.

00:11:48.000 I've said this and I got some of the harshest text messages.

00:11:52.000 But I got some, I got some real zingers from people.

00:11:52.000 That's not true.

00:11:55.000 When I said, don't underestimate Nikki Haley, she's going to raise a bunch of money. 1.00

00:11:59.000 She was an above-average conservative governor. 0.87

00:11:59.000 She has a good story. 0.87

00:12:02.000 She presents well on television.

00:12:03.000 I think she's going to be a strong candidate.

00:12:05.000 I say this as someone who's an enthusiastic supporter of Donald Trump.

00:12:09.000 Do you agree with that, Rich?

00:12:10.000 Do you think that she might have some appeal or do you think she's politically dead on arrival?

00:12:16.000 You know, I it will have to see how the rest of the field shapes out because there will be, Charlie, an anti-Trump vote that they're going to be trying to coalesce behind somebody.

00:12:28.000 And I can see them doing that by Nikki Haley.

00:12:30.000 She will raise money, ladies and gentlemen.

00:12:33.000 This woman knows a lot of people.

00:12:35.000 These are people that call me and say, should I even give money to this person? 0.91

00:12:39.000 Can they win? 0.96

00:12:40.000 She will raise money.

00:12:42.000 You know what I'm thinking, though, Charlie?

00:12:44.000 I'm thinking of the State of the Union speech Joe Biden just gave, where somebody like Nikki Haley, if she was to be a real contender or even blur the image of a modern Republican in the minds of persuadable voters, it could be dangerous to Republicans.

00:12:59.000 And I say that because Joe Biden made the remark, which was booed, you know, that basically said there are Republicans out there who want to cut Social Security and want to cut Medicare.

00:13:09.000 If Nikki Haley's wing of the party had won in 2016, what Joe Biden said would have been true.

00:13:16.000 And then you can kiss Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and maybe even Ohio goodbye.

00:13:21.000 This is why Donald Trump can turn those states into Ohio plus eights and Iowa plus eights and razor-thin margins in Michigan.

00:13:29.000 And he still barely lost it in 2020, even when he lost it.

00:13:32.000 With all the nonsense and all the shenanigans and the drop boxes and the social media interference and all that.

00:13:39.000 So, Rich, you know, let me ask you a question here.

00:13:41.000 So today there's some breaking news.

00:13:43.000 If we can get this tape here, I think it'd be really helpful.

00:13:45.000 Front page of Citizen Free Press, Wall Street Journal, Donald Trump changes tune on mail-in voting ballot collection.

00:13:52.000 He released a video where he says now we need to embrace ballot harvesting and that we need to build the machine.

00:13:59.000 We have a one-liner here on this program.

00:14:02.000 2024 will be won or will be lost based on whether we build a machine or do not build a machine for us to compete in 2024.

00:14:10.000 The horse race is fun.

00:14:11.000 It's dramatic.

00:14:12.000 By the way, open invite for anybody running for the presidency.

00:14:15.000 You are welcome on this show anytime.

00:14:17.000 I will treat you with respect and dignity.

00:14:19.000 Obviously, I'm going to be wearing my Trump jersey, but you're going to have to learn to talk to people that are Trump voters.

00:14:23.000 If you want to win the nomination in this primary, welcome on the show anytime and we'll have a spirited conversation of our disagreements.

00:14:30.000 All of that is fun.

00:14:31.000 It's healthy.

00:14:32.000 I think it's really important.

00:14:33.000 But honestly, it's nowhere near as critical as building the machine.

00:14:39.000 Your thoughts, Rich?

00:14:40.000 Yeah, I was happy to hear the president on that.

00:14:45.000 I was.

00:14:46.000 And I've heard, I've been, obviously, I watch your show too.

00:14:49.000 I see where you guys went with this.

00:14:51.000 This is it.

00:14:52.000 This is it.

00:14:53.000 They were able to close, they meaning the Democrats, they were able to close a so-called advantage in what we refer to as the efficiency of your vote, right?

00:15:03.000 And Republicans, especially in midterms, are supposed to have this wide advantage on voting efficiency by congressional district.

00:15:09.000 They were able to do that because of vote harvesting.

00:15:12.000 And if you want to win, you have to play the game.

00:15:15.000 They spent money.

00:15:17.000 Now that we've had all this time to pour into where Democrats spent their money, they didn't spend it in a game of persuasion, Charlie.

00:15:23.000 This was a race.

00:15:24.000 This was a harvest race.

00:15:26.000 And they, and we, to be honest, what we see from Republicans, they didn't even know they were in such a race.

00:15:32.000 Well, we didn't play the game at all.

00:15:33.000 And in fact, we, you know, many of the people said, oh, just all go vote on election day.

00:15:38.000 We saw in Arizona.

00:15:38.000 It's not the way you win.

00:15:39.000 And look, in Arizona, you can't ballot harvest Democrats in any way because they're a bunch of criminals. 0.91

00:15:42.000 I'm not embracing. 0.62

00:15:43.000 I'm not saying we should embrace that, but you can ballot chase.

00:15:47.000 So ballot chasing is perfectly legal.

00:15:49.000 What is ballot chasing?

00:15:51.000 Ballot chasing is here is 1,200 voters in these three precincts in Mesa, and they're low-propensity Republican voters.

00:15:59.000 And we've talked to them, and they're likely to vote for, you know, should be Governor Kerry Lake or Donald Trump.

00:16:04.000 And we're going to harass them.

00:16:07.000 And we're going to, you know, harass them being a fun, colorful term.

00:16:10.000 We're going to call them.

00:16:11.000 We're going to communicate with them until we have evidence that they have submitted their ballot.

00:16:18.000 Do they need a ride to an in-person early voting center?

00:16:21.000 That is legal.

00:16:21.000 You're allowed to provide transportation.

00:16:23.000 You know, do you keep on knocking on their door and they have questions about who to vote for?

00:16:28.000 You're allowed to provide information.

00:16:29.000 That's all legal in Arizona, right?

00:16:32.000 And Republicans did none of this.

00:16:35.000 None of it.

00:16:36.000 You had one side chasing ballots and the other side saying, well, I hope everyone shows up on election day.

00:16:42.000 Let's see how it works.

00:16:44.000 We will never get back into political power again in our country if we do not embrace building a robust, sophisticated, precise machine ready for victory.

00:16:55.000 Period.

00:16:55.000 End of story.

00:16:58.000 So, Rich, I don't think messaging is nearly as important as it used to be, but it certainly is still an element of elections.

00:17:06.000 Let's talk macro.

00:17:07.000 Let's not get too into the approval rating and all that.

00:17:09.000 All that stuff comes and goes.

00:17:11.000 But what do you see as leading indicators or trends, things that our candidates should become fluent in?

00:17:16.000 Things that you see that can build consensus with swing voters?

00:17:20.000 What are one or two issues that even might be a little heterodox that you think, hey, we got to zero in on this, and this could help us win on the margins in 2024?

00:17:30.000 Yeah, I think the economic message is kind of one, Charlie, and it just doesn't matter.

00:17:35.000 It's a matter of whether you get those voters to the polls.

00:17:37.000 I think that's a matter of whether you get those voters to the polls or not.

00:17:41.000 I think we're in an area where there are new culture war issues that unfortunately Republicans did not grab onto and run with.

00:17:50.000 Look at how popular Governor Glenn Yunkin is.

00:17:53.000 When we poll around the country nationally and we ask about some of these issues that Yunkin really championed and ran with, you know, they're no-brainers to people.

00:18:02.000 And we sat there kind of silent on the abortion issue and we let them or well, we, the Republican Party candidates, are going to let them play offense on that issue when they left the transgender and the kids issues off the table.

00:18:19.000 But it's more than that.

00:18:20.000 It's this general feeling that their culture and way of life is being attacked and there's nobody there to defend them.

00:18:28.000 And there's no line being drawn saying this is where public parties stand on these issues.

00:18:33.000 Everywhere that we do see those lines drawn, Democrats lose.

00:18:37.000 So, you know, when you're looking for an extra point, two, three points here and there, these new culture war issues, that's where I really would encourage people to take those reins and run with them.

00:18:49.000 Run with them.

00:18:50.000 So I was really excited today when I said this is Trump's best at his best because Trump has a very blunt way of communicating, obviously, but he has a way of diving into an overly complex issue and branding it in a way that can win.

00:19:05.000 And the trans issue is like a trillion-dollar bill waiting for Donald Trump to just make fun of it and make light of it.

00:19:12.000 Like you got a dude with a beer and a dress and none of it makes sense.

00:19:15.000 It's just, you could, he could just do an endless shtick on it.

00:19:19.000 So Donald Trump says, good riddance to the failed woke extremist Nicola Sturgeon of Scotland.

00:19:25.000 This crazed leftist symbolizes everything wrong with identity politics. 1.00

00:19:28.000 Sturgeon thought it was okay to put a biological man in a woman's prison.

00:19:32.000 If that wasn't bad enough, Sturgeon fought for a gender recognition reform bill that would have allowed 16-year-old children to change their gender without medical advice.

00:19:39.000 I think this is a winner.

00:19:40.000 This is a winner.

00:19:41.000 This is a winner.

00:19:42.000 This is a winner for Donald Trump and for Republicans.

00:19:45.000 Your thoughts?

00:19:46.000 Yeah, winner, winner, chicken dinner.

00:19:48.000 Simple as that.

00:19:49.000 Florida.

00:19:50.000 We saw those fights in Florida.

00:19:52.000 And, you know, interestingly, Democrats think they can win them. 1.00

00:19:56.000 So they walk into it like fools. 0.98

00:19:58.000 And it's a no-brainer because it's not, we're not at a point now, Charlie, where it's winnable. 0.98

00:20:05.000 I was just getting my car inspected for annual registration yesterday.

00:20:09.000 You know, young 20-something, black male, and the woman behind the counter, Hispanic, both of them talking about this kind of stuff that's going on in the country right now.

00:20:20.000 They're like, you know, we got fake aliens invading and men wearing dresses.

00:20:25.000 Like, we're off the rails.

00:20:26.000 I mean, so when common everyday people of all demographics understand this, then that's the way to increase the size of your party.

00:20:35.000 Yeah, so really quick, Rich, just if there were to be a vulnerability for the Trump campaign, you just got to always lay it out.

00:20:41.000 What would that be in this primary?

00:20:44.000 What do you see in the poll and what do you see in the chatter?

00:20:46.000 If you were to say, okay, Donald Trump is obviously the favorite, basically bulletproof.

00:20:50.000 But what attack vectors do you think would say, okay, those are areas he has to share up.

00:20:55.000 You know, I'm with the late Rush Limbaugh on this, Charlie, real quick.

00:20:59.000 People who are still Trump supporters, that still, though, they remember how turbulent sometimes things were, they want him to just focus on what he has that nobody else has, which is he's the only one who can say, I did this.

00:21:11.000 I ended Roe v. Wade. 0.74

00:21:13.000 I did.

00:21:13.000 Right.

00:21:14.000 I mean, it's that simple.

00:21:15.000 I, you, you care about cultural issues.

00:21:17.000 Roe v. Wade is gone.

00:21:18.000 He did because of me.

00:21:19.000 Those are three words.

00:21:20.000 That's really smart.

00:21:21.000 Keep going.

00:21:21.000 It's simple.

00:21:22.000 He can Grover Cleveland this.

00:21:23.000 I mean, Grover Cleveland lost his reelection bid, but the country begged him four years later to come back because everything Grover Cleveland said over free silver and economics and everything he said was going to happen happened.

00:21:35.000 When he came back, all he had to do was say, I did this.

00:21:39.000 I'm the only one who has a record of doing it.

00:21:42.000 They can make promises, but I have a record of keeping them.

00:21:45.000 End of story.

00:21:46.000 And then this is what it was under me.

00:21:47.000 Rich Barris, everybody, check out Big Data Poll.

00:21:49.000 He does a great job.

00:21:50.000 I would add to that that Donald Trump has to be able to communicate that he will pick better people.

00:21:58.000 I think personnel.

00:22:00.000 Yes.

00:22:00.000 And I think he would agree at this.

00:22:01.000 Personnel is definitely a sore spot for the conservative base.

00:22:06.000 As the great Rush Limbaugh would say, to piggyback on you, Donald Trump's personnel selections are puzzling.

00:22:14.000 Perfect.

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00:23:37.000 Joining us now is Kimberly Guilfoyle.

00:23:39.000 KG, how you doing?

00:23:40.000 Oh, great.

00:23:41.000 I can hear you.

00:23:41.000 I can see you.

00:23:42.000 It's fantastic.

00:23:43.000 Good.

00:23:44.000 Tell us about your new show on Rumble.

00:23:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:47.000 So, I'm a newbie to Rumble, which I absolutely love at Kimberly Guilfoyle.

00:23:51.000 And, you know, as you know, Charlie, every single day they are trying to cancel America First Republicans, people that love this country, that believe in the freedom of expression.

00:24:01.000 We want to have our voices out there.

00:24:02.000 We don't want to be canceled.

00:24:04.000 That's why shows like yours are so important, which was a big trendsetter leading the way, paving the way for other patriots to be able to follow the example that you've set.

00:24:13.000 And it's very disturbing and distressing to me as a first-generation American living in this country and being able to enjoy the American dream that I would wake up one day and they were canceling people because of what they believe in.

00:24:26.000 Not radical ideas, just ideas that are really amazing, like your group, Turning Point USA, has been promoting across the country, which is we don't need big government.

00:24:36.000 We've seen big government fail, as you know, really exponentially with the Biden administration.

00:24:42.000 It is just completely an absentee landlord, you know, occupying the White House with no ideas, no innovation, no foreign policy, no national security, no idea about infrastructure and manufacturing, and completely destroying lives across this country of the hardworking Americans, the middle class who truly love this country, that stand for the flag, that stand for choice in education, that stand for not forcing vaccinations upon people and ruining their lives.

00:25:10.000 And that's why the work that you're doing is so important.

00:25:12.000 I want to be one of those active voices, as I have in the past and at all your events, to stand for the people that believe in what we believe in.

00:25:21.000 Really quick, KG, just tell us about the importance of Rumble.

00:25:25.000 They're having so much success.

00:25:26.000 They're growing like crazy.

00:25:28.000 Just tell us about it and why everyone should download the Rumble app.

00:25:31.000 You know, I love it because it's, you know, it's news done right without the filter of fake news, without the filter of censorship, suppression, without the filter of, you know, people sitting there saying, well, our ideas are the only ideas you should have.

00:25:46.000 We're superior to everyone else.

00:25:47.000 Rumble says, let's have a free forum.

00:25:50.000 We will be the marketplace of ideas to be able to get out there.

00:25:52.000 So, whether it's your show uploading Don Jr. show, which has been doing fantastic, and myself being able to have that opportunity, I love it.

00:26:00.000 I know my parents would be very proud for me to be on this forum and be on this server because we won't be canceled.

00:26:06.000 We can say what we think and what we believe and what we feel in our hearts.

00:26:09.000 We can do impressive, you know, really important interviews with people across this country to highlight what's going on, whether it's at the border or, like I said, national security, finding out the truth.

00:26:20.000 Like the United States knew about the China spy balloon, okay, for a week before it even went onto U.S. soil.

00:26:27.000 And what did they do?

00:26:28.000 Nothing.

00:26:29.000 That is frightening.

00:26:30.000 It's not just a lack of leadership.

00:26:32.000 It is putting us in a dangerous position in this world.

00:26:32.000 It is reckless.

00:26:36.000 And people wouldn't know that because they're afraid to report the actual news, or in fact, they want to shapeshift it.

00:26:42.000 And that's why we need to be loud, strong, proud voices and unafraid to tell the truth about what's going on.

00:26:49.000 I had the opportunity to do that for years and years, obviously at Fox, and then to fight for my father-in-law across the country when he was running for office.

00:26:56.000 And these are the principles and values and ideals that I am proud to stand for and stand amongst patriots, you know, like yourself.

00:27:04.000 And, you know, Charlie, you're a new father, you're your beautiful wife, Erica, my friend.

00:27:09.000 And, you know, we need to leave this country in a better position than we inherited it.

00:27:14.000 And it's really incumbent upon us.

00:27:15.000 We've been blessed by God to be able to do so.

00:27:18.000 And these are scary times when China cares more about our border than the United States and the Biden administration.

00:27:24.000 They're watching it more closely.

00:27:25.000 Trust me.

00:27:26.000 So, Kimberly, Gavin Newsom, governor of California, says that you fell prey to culture at Fox News.

00:27:35.000 What is your response to when you read that?

00:27:38.000 Were you like, are you kidding me?

00:27:40.000 I got this story sent to me about like 57 times last night and all the reporters reaching out to me for comment, but I'm giving it to you, Charlie.

00:27:49.000 Okay.

00:27:49.000 This is absurd.

00:27:50.000 You know me a long time.

00:27:52.000 Have you ever seen me to be someone that is led by others, like in some cult mentality that I would like, oh, I fell prey to the culture at Box?

00:28:00.000 No, I have been a proud, okay, Republican and conservative registering as a Republican, 18 years of age, attending UC Davis, which has gone a little crazy, and a member of the Young Republicans party there.

00:28:14.000 Okay.

00:28:15.000 And they matched me up with a woman that rivals me for being about as conservative and to the right as I am.

00:28:20.000 Kevin knows this.

00:28:22.000 I didn't change.

00:28:23.000 He did.

00:28:24.000 He used to be so proud to fight for small businesses, for entrepreneurs, for those hardworking men and women.

00:28:31.000 And he's fallen prey to the left, the radical left that is pushing him so far to the left that it's unrecognizable.

00:28:38.000 This is somebody who was a small business owner who worked very hard to try to bring those jobs and energy to San Francisco and not penalize people with small businesses.

00:28:47.000 Now, as governor of California, he is destroying them.

00:28:51.000 There has to be some accountability there.

00:28:54.000 I know what his capacity is.

00:28:55.000 I know what his capability is.

00:28:56.000 So he has to take ownership for his policies that are literally, people are fleeing that state.

00:29:02.000 Every single day, I meet people that are moving to Florida and Texas and other states that share our values, where they can be entrepreneurs, where, you know, single mothers to middle class hardworking Americans are respected.

00:29:14.000 You have seen the policy of the left on highlight, okay, in California.

00:29:20.000 It does not work.

00:29:22.000 Look what's happened.

00:29:23.000 You can't even recognize San Francisco.

00:29:25.000 I was so proud to be a prosecutor there and head of the trial division or career criminal, all the above.

00:29:32.000 Undefeated, undefeated in San Francisco.

00:29:34.000 That's saying something.

00:29:36.000 But now look at it.

00:29:37.000 It's become a city that's unrecognizable.

00:29:39.000 My father used to say to me, Kimberly, you're so lucky.

00:29:41.000 You're born in San Francisco.

00:29:42.000 I was born in Kaiser Hospital there.

00:29:44.000 God bless to my mother, Mercedes, who came from Laguadia.

00:29:47.000 My father from NS and County Clare, Ireland.

00:29:49.000 And I was given the opportunities of a lifetime.

00:29:51.000 And I loved my city and I fought for it as a prosecutor and I fought for it as a first lady of San Francisco, not a first partner, a first lady, okay, versus his wife who calls herself the first partner.

00:30:02.000 So really quick, I got to ask you, you know, Kimberly, just looking at Gavin Newsom, he seems to be more ambitious than Lucifer.

00:30:08.000 Do you think he's going to run for president?

00:30:10.000 Phyllis, how do you really think?

00:30:11.000 Do I think?

00:30:12.000 I know he's going to run for president.

00:30:14.000 He's always wanted to be president of the United States.

00:30:18.000 You know, he worked obviously his way up from city council, board of supervisors, multiple races, and then to governor of California.

00:30:27.000 You know, this is something that he wants very badly.

00:30:29.000 And I'll tell you something.

00:30:30.000 I think you are going to see Gavin Newsom versus Donald J. Trump running against each other for president, father-in-law, and ex-husband.

00:30:39.000 KG, I'm going to put you in charge of our OPPO research team for Trump 2024.

00:30:44.000 If it's Trump v. Newsome.

00:30:45.000 You're as smart as I know you are.

00:30:47.000 Yeah.

00:30:48.000 You know, he works, though.

00:30:50.000 I mean, all kidding aside, he'll raise a ton of money.

00:30:54.000 He will work.

00:30:55.000 He'll get on the campaign trail.

00:30:57.000 I think that he is very likely to be the nominee in more ways than one.

00:31:02.000 KG.

00:31:03.000 You're absolutely right.

00:31:03.000 Don't be distracted by Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.

00:31:06.000 Even the left is trying to leg sweep him.

00:31:09.000 Exactly.

00:31:09.000 Focus.

00:31:10.000 Waste on time.

00:31:10.000 Waste of time.

00:31:11.000 KG, when is your show?

00:31:13.000 Is it already up?

00:31:14.000 When is it coming out?

00:31:15.000 So my channel is up.

00:31:16.000 If people could kindly follow me at Kimberly Gilfall and I'll upload this great interview with Charlie Kirk.

00:31:22.000 So we're looking to do that in the first week of March, maybe even at CPAC.

00:31:26.000 How about that?

00:31:26.000 I love it.

00:31:27.000 KG, thank you so much.

00:31:28.000 God bless you.

00:31:29.000 And everyone check out Rumble and check out Don's show and Kimberly's show.

00:31:32.000 Rumble is the place to be.

00:31:33.000 I'm telling you, it's taken off.

00:31:34.000 Kimberly, thank you.

00:31:35.000 Thank you so much.

00:31:38.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:31:39.000 Email me your thoughts as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:31:43.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

00:31:48.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 16, 2023

The 2024 Horse Race with Rich Baris and Kimberly Guilfoyle

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