The Charlie Kirk Show - August 05, 2025


The 40-Year Cycle — Are Democrats In Trouble Until 2060?


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Sen. Tim Scott (D-VA) joins us to talk about profiles in Christian courage, Mark Halperin joins us about the state of the Democratic Party, also the Texas Redistricting fight, and President Donald Trump shouts out that Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
00:00:04.000 Senator Tim Scott joins us about profiles in Christian courage.
00:00:08.000 Mark Halperin joins us about the state of the Democrat Party, also the Texas redistricting fight.
00:00:12.000 And then President Donald Trump shouts out that Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican.
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00:00:27.000 Here we go.
00:00:28.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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00:00:40.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:41.000 His spirit is love of this country.
00:00:43.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
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00:01:26.000 Joining us now is one of our favorite guests, Mark Halperin, editor-in-chief of Two-Way and host of Next Up on the Megan Kelly Network.
00:01:34.000 Mark, great to see you.
00:01:35.000 Thank you for taking the time.
00:01:36.000 Mark, I want to begin by asking you about this Texas redistricting fight.
00:01:41.000 Do you think this will trigger more gerrymandering fights from Democrat states and further disfiguring our already unrecognizable congressional districts in many states across the country?
00:01:52.000 I mean, they'll talk about it in about five or six states, but the laws are all different, right?
00:01:56.000 And I'm not sure they'll be able to both get it executed and actually take advantage of it.
00:02:02.000 Because as is true in Texas, when you start playing with the maps, you risk endangering seats you hold currently by trying to move around Republican support.
00:02:10.000 So I'd be surprised if more than one or two Democratic states actually tried this for real, and I'm not sure they'd execute it.
00:02:17.000 So there's a lot of talk about it, and it's an interesting, you know, tit-for-tat story.
00:02:21.000 But if you go state by state and look at the laws, it's not clear to me where Democrats would pick up the seats to offset what Texas is almost certainly going to do.
00:02:31.000 But a lot of this hinges on the Republicans believing Hispanics will continue to go right wing.
00:02:38.000 If that doesn't happen, then this redraw ends up becoming maybe even a Democrat positive.
00:02:44.000 Talk about how the Hispanic move in Texas makes this a Republican move. 0.97
00:02:49.000 10 years ago, this wouldn't have actually been that way.
00:02:51.000 And how much of the Texas gambit is really reliant on the continuing changing of the Republican Party's core demographics?
00:03:00.000 You know, it's a big factor, right?
00:03:02.000 And, you know, for 15, 20 years, the big line from Democrats and some Republicans was demography is destiny.
00:03:09.000 Hispanics vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
00:03:12.000 Texas will become a purple state and then a solidly blue state.
00:03:16.000 And what disrupted that was not just Donald Trump, but the party's identity overall and some other Republican candidates developing the capacity to appeal to Hispanic voters, working class voters, religious voters, conservatives, people who want to be tough on the border, people who think the U.S. should not be funding NATO.
00:03:36.000 Hispanic voters have some differences, but a lot of them are like the rest of the electorate.
00:03:43.000 They're ready to vote with the candidate or the party that appeals to them.
00:03:48.000 So it's clear that it's up for grabs, but it's also clear that the inexorable move of Texas to purple and then blue has been disrupted by several factors.
00:03:59.000 Most of all, the ability to compete for Hispanic voters, a growing share of the electorate in Texas.
00:04:05.000 Let's play Cut 300.
00:04:06.000 This is Governor Hochl threatening to redraw the maps.
00:04:09.000 Play Cut 300.
00:04:10.000 Well, Donald Trump and his co-conspirator, Greg Abbott, erode our democracy and drag us toward authoritarianism.
00:04:21.000 Now, what Texas and Republican states are doing at the direction of Donald Trump, I say is nothing short of a legal insurrection against our capital.
00:04:33.000 If Republicans are willing to rewrite these rules to give themselves an advantage, then they're leaving us no choice.
00:04:41.000 We must do the same.
00:04:44.000 There's a phrase, you have to fight fire with fire.
00:04:48.000 That is a true statement of how we're feeling right now.
00:04:51.000 As I've said, another overused but applicable phrase: all's fair in love and war.
00:04:58.000 That's why I'm exploring with our leaders every option to redraw our state congressional lines as soon as possible.
00:05:05.000 Well, first of all, she says we're at war.
00:05:07.000 That's quite, that's quite sweet.
00:05:08.000 New York redrew their maps, though, to eliminate three Republican seats in 2023.
00:05:14.000 This is not a new concept for major states to try and 2022 to try and change lines to benefit one political party.
00:05:25.000 Well, it's as old as the Republic, practically.
00:05:28.000 And I find it somewhat hilarious to hear these Democrats on their high horse about how horrible it is to redistrict for political advantage because both parties have done it.
00:05:37.000 Particularly ironic that some of the Texas Democratic legislators took refuge in Illinois, a state that has one of the most aggressive Democratic redistricting.
00:05:48.000 And, you know, Democrats basically have the attitude, and I wouldn't say Republicans differ.
00:05:55.000 We're for redistricting in blue states that benefit us, but red states, they shouldn't do it.
00:05:59.000 And, you know, Republicans say the opposite.
00:06:01.000 So if Kathy Hochul thinks she can wring more Democratic states out of the map, and if the legislature will go along with her and they can execute, maybe she can offset the Danes Democrats and Republicans expect in Texas. 1.00
00:06:17.000 We went through a period where good government types prevailed in a lot of states to say redistricting should be nonpartisan.
00:06:26.000 There shouldn't be anything close to this, that the line should be drawn to keep communities together, not so-called gerrymandered.
00:06:32.000 We are drawing them with sophisticated technology specifically to try to maximize the partisan edge of one side.
00:06:38.000 And of course, statistically, you can see where it's effective and where those who believe it shouldn't be done are losing out because you know how many people vote in the state for Democrats and Republicans.
00:06:49.000 That should represent the rough balance of what makes up the congressional delegation.
00:06:54.000 But we see in state after state, that's not the case, even though some states have adopted nonpartisan commissions and other efforts to keep this from being political.
00:07:02.000 But Texas wants to make it political. 0.81
00:07:04.000 It's not surprising these Democratic states want to.
00:07:07.000 I'm just not sure they'll be able to execute on it.
00:07:09.000 One of the reasons we love having you on the program, Mark, is you are an honest reporter.
00:07:14.000 You got the Biden story right and correct well before anybody else.
00:07:18.000 And you talk to people on the left quite frequently.
00:07:22.000 I want to play this piece of tape and get your take on whether or not this is accurate of the type of Democrat mentality you're seeing and sensing.
00:07:31.000 Let's play Cut 256.
00:07:34.000 I have long operated on the assumption it's going to take us about 40 years to get out of this hole.
00:07:38.000 I'm sorry, I believe in 40 years.
00:07:40.000 I believe in cyclical history.
00:07:43.000 1820s, 1860s, 1920s, 1960s, we're in the 2020s.
00:07:46.000 We're not getting out this to the 2060s.
00:07:48.000 It's going to take a long time to fix these.
00:07:50.000 I mean, it might not take 40 years, Mark, but are Democrats really that demoralized?
00:07:55.000 Some of them are because Donald Trump's victory, as you well know, Charlie, because you've studied it, it's not just he won the popular vote.
00:08:02.000 It's the move of these demographic groups towards him, the moves of many counties towards him, and the lack of ideas.
00:08:10.000 You know, right now, why are Democrats all jazzed up about this redistricting thing?
00:08:14.000 Because they can fight Donald Trump in a dramatic way.
00:08:17.000 They'll get a lot of news coverage for it.
00:08:19.000 But there are no ideas behind this.
00:08:21.000 It's a process fight.
00:08:22.000 Donald Trump fights on process, but that's not why he was one two out of three elections.
00:08:27.000 He talks about ideas that real Americans think about will impact their real lives in a positive way.
00:08:32.000 And so Democrats who think they're going to be in the wilderness for a while see a lack of leadership, see a lack of fundraising, see a lack of Democratic shows like yours.
00:08:40.000 But I think most of what they see is just a lack of ideas, a lack of capacity to say the American people, we can make your life better.
00:08:46.000 Again, I'm not, this show is not a show where we're always like, oh, the red wave is coming and Democrats are always going to be wiped out.
00:08:52.000 But Mark, at this point of time, I would have expected a lot more small dollar Democrat fundraising, a lot more candidate recruitment.
00:09:00.000 Can you at least give us a little bit of an idea what is going on in the kind of mechanics, the gritting of the Democrat Party?
00:09:08.000 Are we seeing 2017 type energy?
00:09:13.000 What is this a parallel to?
00:09:14.000 One minute remaining.
00:09:15.000 Okay, well, make no mistake.
00:09:16.000 They won all those Senate races in the contested states that Donald Trump won.
00:09:20.000 They may well take control of the House.
00:09:21.000 So it's not like they're going down to a 14% party.
00:09:25.000 What's happening is the DNC is not sophisticated.
00:09:28.000 They're behind by more than they realize on technology used for voter registration, voter turnout.
00:09:34.000 And small dollar fundraising is going to be depressed if you don't have charismatic leaders who are doing stuff that people are excited about.
00:09:40.000 Quite the contrary.
00:09:41.000 They're depressed about having much money they gave Kamala Harris only to see her lose.
00:09:45.000 So they need to get that virtuous cycle going.
00:09:47.000 They need some victories.
00:09:48.000 And that's part of what this is about, this redistricting thing.
00:09:51.000 They're trying to get in the news to say to their tribe, give us money.
00:09:55.000 We know what we're doing.
00:09:56.000 We're going to fight Donald Trump.
00:09:57.000 We're going to fight the Republicans.
00:09:58.000 But they're not there.
00:10:00.000 And part of it, again, is the lack of ideas, but also a lot on the mechanics side where they're, as I said, they're further behind, I think, than they realize.
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00:11:05.000 Okay, Mark Halperin, you're going to have to explain this to me.
00:11:07.000 New York Times right writes a piece.
00:11:09.000 What to do when the president acts like a five-year-old?
00:11:12.000 I really don't like the term Trump derangement syndrome, but it's just accurate. 0.81
00:11:16.000 I haven't found a better one to fill it.
00:11:18.000 TDS.
00:11:20.000 The TDS and mainstream media has reached a new fever pitch.
00:11:23.000 What is driving it?
00:11:24.000 What is behind it?
00:11:26.000 And is there any hope to cure this disease?
00:11:29.000 Well, I mean, we did keep, we largely cured measles and the mumps.
00:11:35.000 So maybe.
00:11:37.000 You know, Trump derangement syndrome is.
00:11:39.000 Coming back, Mark.
00:11:40.000 I'm kidding.
00:11:40.000 I'm kidding.
00:11:42.000 It's the natural resting state of what I call the dominant media.
00:11:47.000 They want to be in opposition to Donald Trump.
00:11:50.000 And after 2016, and he won, there was like a five-minute thing where the New York Times said, we really need to understand America.
00:11:57.000 And then it was basically four years of Trump derangement syndrome and then four more years.
00:12:02.000 And then after he won in 2024 and got off to such a fast start in the transition, I think there was it was at its low point within the media, which is they respected his victory.
00:12:12.000 They were embarrassed privately about Joe Biden and their role in covering up his loss of mental acuity.
00:12:19.000 And if you look at the coverage and the transition and through the first few months, it wasn't laudatory, but it wasn't as reflective of Trump derangement syndrome.
00:12:28.000 In the last few weeks, it's all come back.
00:12:31.000 And so back to their natural state.
00:12:35.000 The information on the economy is mixed, but now it's all being reported as negative.
00:12:40.000 Even some Republicans will say they're not crazy about the president's firing the head of the Bureau of Labor statistics.
00:12:45.000 But now that's being turned into a metaphor for what a horrible guy Donald Trump is.
00:12:50.000 Donald Trump says some inaccurate things quite regularly.
00:12:54.000 And so now they're attributing that to both him being a huge liar and loss of mental acuity on his part, covering it way more than Joe Biden was ever covered.
00:13:04.000 So I don't believe there's a cure for this Trump derangement syndrome.
00:13:08.000 And I believe most of all that Donald Trump benefits so much from Trump derangement syndrome, so much.
00:13:14.000 And that's the ultimate irony of the media is Trump derangement syndrome.
00:13:17.000 They're helping the very person they're trying to destroy.
00:13:20.000 Yeah.
00:13:21.000 And so the Democrat Party, I'm endlessly interested.
00:13:25.000 I know you've mentioned this before, but where is the political entrepreneurs of the Democrat Party?
00:13:30.000 I mean, there's plenty of opportunities.
00:13:32.000 We saw this actually in 2017, 2018.
00:13:34.000 Everyone would be starting new groups, new protest movements.
00:13:36.000 I'm not saying that there's no energy, but I suppose Mom Donnie is a little bit of a manifestation of this, but there are so obvious shortfalls.
00:13:46.000 I mean, they're trying, for example, they've tried a couple very just like low energy, just lackluster attempts to try to win over younger people to come after Turning Point USA.
00:14:00.000 I suppose when you're talking to Democrat operatives, why are they, how are they assessing their lack of bottom-up political entrepreneurs?
00:14:12.000 Yeah, it's three things.
00:14:13.000 One is it's just, I don't know if you call it luck, bad luck, whatever, but they just don't have the kind of people like you and others who are both talented content creators and also people who believe in the cause.
00:14:26.000 You've got, you know, the guys at crooked media, they're just as likely to take a dump on a presidential candidate of their own party than they are to look for the good.
00:14:36.000 So that's number one is they just don't have the horses.
00:14:39.000 Number two, again, they're so spoiled by having the dominant media on their side.
00:14:46.000 You all rose up in reaction to an absence in the market of voices to be counterposed.
00:14:52.000 Even though the dominant media is nowhere near as powerful as it used to be, even though Biden and Harris have caused a bit of a fissure, it's still every game's a home game for them.
00:15:01.000 And so they just don't have the same incentive.
00:15:03.000 That's so good.
00:15:04.000 A fierce necessity to rise up because every day they can turn on NBC and open the New York Times website and see their side.
00:15:11.000 And then lastly, it's again back to the absence of ideas.
00:15:15.000 You can build voices and grassroots around tactics and strategy and famous people and creative ideas like your group does.
00:15:24.000 But in the end, people want to know what's going to make their life better.
00:15:27.000 And so your events are fun and interesting and filled with energy.
00:15:31.000 But there's lots of conversation about policy ideas at the state, local, and national level that people can be excited about.
00:15:38.000 They just haven't generated those ideas in such a long time.
00:15:42.000 It's such a great point.
00:15:43.000 And Mark, in person, I'd love to explore this topic deeper.
00:15:46.000 Again, this is not just trying to celebrate everything down at Turning Point USA, which I do believe is worthy of appreciation, but it's perplexing, right?
00:15:52.000 Because you look at that Voters of Tomorrow summit that Nancy Pelosi spoke at.
00:15:57.000 I mean, that was pathetic.
00:15:59.000 I mean, it was maybe 200 people.
00:16:01.000 And that is the former speaker of the house.
00:16:03.000 And they had Kamala Harris.
00:16:04.000 So it wasn't as if they weren't able to get the big guns, but there's something missing there.
00:16:09.000 I'm not there to help him.
00:16:10.000 I'm help them at all.
00:16:11.000 But there's definitely a major disconnect in the landscape.
00:16:15.000 Everyone, check out Two-Way TV and Mark Halperin's wonderful program.
00:16:19.000 I think you guys next up.
00:16:20.000 I think you'll really enjoy it.
00:16:21.000 Mark, thank you so much.
00:16:22.000 We'll see you soon.
00:16:22.000 Thank you, sir.
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00:17:29.000 Joining us now is a great man, an author of a phenomenal new book, One Nation Always Under God, Profiles in Christian Courage.
00:17:36.000 Senator Tim Scott joins us.
00:17:38.000 Senator Scott, thank you so much for joining the program and congratulations on the one-year wedding anniversary.
00:17:42.000 Senator, great to see you.
00:17:43.000 Thank you, Charlie, very much for having me on the program.
00:17:45.000 Certainly one year.
00:17:46.000 I'm always excited about how God fulfills your prayers.
00:17:49.000 It took me 50 plus years to get here, but I am thankful to be here now.
00:17:53.000 So it's a good day.
00:17:55.000 Hey, you're finishing strong was all that matters, my friend.
00:17:59.000 So, Senator, I love, and I have to be honest, I love how you are always mentioning your faith in Jesus Christ, our Lord.
00:18:05.000 You're unafraid to do that.
00:18:07.000 And I wish more lawmakers were also unafraid.
00:18:11.000 Can you just introduce you?
00:18:12.000 I mean, people know your story roughly, but I want to get to your book.
00:18:15.000 But why is it that you have such boldness and conviction to proclaim Jesus as our Lord and Christ as our king?
00:18:22.000 Because in politics, it feels so materialistic and power hungry.
00:18:26.000 So please elaborate on that, sir.
00:18:28.000 Yeah.
00:18:29.000 Well, Charlie, for me, it comes right down to one thing.
00:18:31.000 As a kid growing up in poverty, single-parent households, you know, one of the most devastating realities of our country is too many kids grow up in fatherless homes.
00:18:41.000 And as one of those kids, I got to tell you, you either turn to drugs, you turn to gangs, you turn to team sports, you turn to something to help you understand who you are.
00:18:51.000 And I was blessed by a praying grandmother and a praying mother who taught me that my identity isn't in gangs or drugs or even in sports, though I love them.
00:19:02.000 My identity would only be found in Christ.
00:19:05.000 And so long story short, Charlie, I had a great friend who taught me that he was happy because Jesus Christ was the Lord of his life.
00:19:13.000 And this is a white guy.
00:19:14.000 He was living in a single wide trailer.
00:19:18.000 His family, they were poor, almost as poor as we were.
00:19:21.000 But he had this energy, this enthusiasm about life.
00:19:25.000 And he said it came from the source called Jesus.
00:19:28.000 And I literally asked the question, what else?
00:19:31.000 Because there must be something else besides Jesus.
00:19:34.000 And I learned as a freshman in college that when you give your life to Jesus, nothing is the same.
00:19:41.000 And you find the father you're looking for.
00:19:45.000 Ephesians 2 writes the story of our lives, giving us the identity that we need in Christ Jesus.
00:19:52.000 And Galatians 3:28 tells me I was adopted into the king of kings, the Lord of Lords, family.
00:20:01.000 And so I could always be confident and strong in who I am in Christ.
00:20:06.000 I might not be strong in who I am without Christ, but in him, I can celebrate.
00:20:12.000 And so I always make sure that I never forget where I come from and now whose I am.
00:20:20.000 And that's always a time to celebrate.
00:20:23.000 And frankly, Charlie, my mother wanted a preacher, so I'm trying to be short because once I start winding up on Christ, sometimes I go a little long.
00:20:32.000 But let me just simply say this.
00:20:33.000 Oh, my foundations.
00:20:35.000 You got the pre.
00:20:36.000 I love it.
00:20:37.000 Please finish.
00:20:38.000 Yeah.
00:20:39.000 The foundations of this country are a Judeo-Christian foundation.
00:20:44.000 Anyone who suggests otherwise, they are just lying to you or completely misled.
00:20:50.000 Number two, our future will be defined by our adherence to that Judeo-Christian ethos that has been the foundation of the greatest story on earth.
00:21:02.000 And it's called America.
00:21:03.000 Oh, I love it.
00:21:04.000 No, I said, I was going to make a joke.
00:21:05.000 I said, you got the preacher energy and the Senate floor speaking energy kind of together.
00:21:11.000 And so you could just keep going.
00:21:12.000 I love it.
00:21:13.000 And Senator, I just want to say that.
00:21:14.000 That's the nicest way anyone.
00:21:16.000 Don't stop, please.
00:21:17.000 Charlie, that's the nicest way anyone.
00:21:18.000 Charlie, that's the nicest way anyone has ever said.
00:21:20.000 You're long-winded.
00:21:21.000 I appreciate that.
00:21:22.000 That was funny.
00:21:23.000 I was trying to tell a joke there.
00:21:25.000 So I want to get to your book here.
00:21:25.000 Well, thank you.
00:21:27.000 It's One Nation Always Under God. 0.90
00:21:29.000 We're showing it up on screen.
00:21:30.000 I want everyone to check it out.
00:21:32.000 Profiles in Christian Courage.
00:21:33.000 And I just want to continue to encourage you to speak about your faith at all times because I notice it and I see it.
00:21:40.000 And so many others do.
00:21:41.000 Tell us about some of these stories here, like abolitionist William Lloyd Garrison.
00:21:45.000 I knew nothing about him before beginning to read your book.
00:21:50.000 Tell us about it, Senator.
00:21:51.000 Yeah, one of the things I wanted to do, you know, one of the most controversial things I've ever said, I think as a public official, is that America is not a racist country.
00:21:59.000 And I was attacked vehemently in response to President Biden's comments and Kamala Harris's comments and the whole world went crazy.
00:22:08.000 And so when I wrote this book, I had that in the back of my mind.
00:22:11.000 See, America, we certainly have an original sin.
00:22:14.000 We all do.
00:22:14.000 We were born into sin and conceived in wickedness in a way.
00:22:19.000 The truth of the matter, though, is that we've always fought for our identity through the Declaration of Independence, that God gave us these inalienable rights that come from God, not from Man.
00:22:30.000 So I wanted to tell the story of a little-known guy named William Lloyd Garrison who fought tooth and nail for the freedom he believed only comes from God.
00:22:40.000 And as a result, he was a journalist.
00:22:43.000 Thank God for Holy Ghost-filled journalists back in those days. 1.00
00:22:46.000 We could do some now.
00:22:48.000 I wanted to tell the story about.
00:22:50.000 We really do.
00:22:51.000 We really do.
00:22:52.000 But here's a guy willing to lose his fortune, lose his fame, and frankly, lose his life just so that he could do what God had called him to do.
00:23:02.000 And it's a fantastic story by the book, One Nation Always Under God, and here how he overcame the challenges, how he escaped a mob because he felt like he had to go into the fire to come out looking like gold.
00:23:18.000 And that's what God does with ordinary people time and time again.
00:23:22.000 Hey, listen, I've watched your YouTubes, Charlie.
00:23:25.000 And the one thing I can tell you about your YouTube is you're on fire when you are challenging the most liberal orthodoxy on college campuses and around this country because you believe that there's this core to your soul that is anchored in Christ.
00:23:40.000 And you have an obligation, a responsibility, and frankly, the good fortune to educate the misinformed, to educate the miseducated, and to educate the indoctrinated.
00:23:51.000 We need to have more stories like yours and William Lloyd Garrison to remind people of our future.
00:23:59.000 Well, thank you for saying that.
00:24:00.000 And that means a lot, Senator.
00:24:02.000 And the book, One Nation Always Under God, includes a man that I actually had a chance to shake his hand.
00:24:10.000 There is a restaurant in the suburbs of Chicago called Lovell's.
00:24:13.000 I had a chance to meet Jim Lovell once, actually, Apollo 13 astronaut whose faith sustained him 200,000 miles from Earth.
00:24:23.000 Tell us about Jim Lovell and his faith.
00:24:25.000 Well, Charlie, here's another great story.
00:24:28.000 You are a blessed man to have shaken his hand.
00:24:31.000 What an amazing life he lived.
00:24:33.000 But perhaps the most important part of his life is how he connected his faith and how he overcame the crisis at the time.
00:24:41.000 Here's a guy 200,000 miles away from home.
00:24:44.000 He had been prepared to be an astronaut.
00:24:46.000 He had dreamt about it.
00:24:47.000 He was living his dream.
00:24:48.000 And then everything that could go wrong, including running out of oxygen hundreds of thousands of miles, not just from home, but from earth.
00:24:58.000 What did he do?
00:24:59.000 He prayed.
00:25:01.000 He thought.
00:25:02.000 One of the scriptures I love in the Bible is Matthew 22, 37 that says we should love the Lord our God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
00:25:10.000 Well, how do we love the Lord our God with all of our minds?
00:25:12.000 I think we have to develop our minds.
00:25:14.000 God gave us tremendous capacity.
00:25:17.000 And what you'll read in Jim Lovell's story is how he developed his mind about the things of being an astronaut.
00:25:23.000 And as a result, under pressure, your mind instinctively goes to where it has spent a lot of time.
00:25:30.000 And fortunately for the other astronauts out in space with him, his mind went to problem solving.
00:25:38.000 He figured out how to calm his nerves.
00:25:41.000 1 Peter 5, 7 reminds us that we can cast all of our cares upon the Lord, for he cares for us.
00:25:47.000 In that state, he found peace that allowed him to put together how to conserve the oxygen, get back to Earth, and save the lives of his fellow astronauts, all while praising the Lord.
00:26:00.000 I believe that we are not always going to have great times.
00:26:03.000 Sometimes we run into something that seems insurmountable.
00:26:07.000 What do you do then?
00:26:09.000 You do what Jim Lovell did.
00:26:10.000 You have great faith, whether it works or whether it doesn't.
00:26:14.000 You're always better off leaning into your faith during times of crisis.
00:26:19.000 Jim Lovell's story in One Nation Always Under God is a great place to understand what to do when you find yourself in an extraordinary circumstance that requires an extraordinary God.
00:26:32.000 So it's so beautifully said.
00:26:34.000 We only have a couple of minutes remaining here, Senator.
00:26:36.000 Again, the book is One Nation Always Under God Profiles in Christian Courage.
00:26:40.000 What would you say is the through line between William Lloyd Garrison, Jim Lovell, Dorothea Dix, Norman Berlaug that you talk about in this book?
00:26:50.000 When you were putting this book together, when you were composing it, they all had Christian courage, but is there a biblical character consistency between all of these people that you try to then apply to your entire life?
00:27:04.000 Was there a spiritual discipline?
00:27:05.000 Was there a practice?
00:27:06.000 Was there humility?
00:27:07.000 Was there a piety?
00:27:09.000 Tell us what you learned as far as similarities between all of these people in different walks of life, in different times, in different centuries, the commonalities and the similarities that some of them had.
00:27:21.000 You know, Genesis 12, 1 and 2 reminds us 2 and 3, actually.
00:27:24.000 Tells us that the good Lord will make your name great here upon the earth as you adhere to the gospel message, so to speak, in the Old Testament.
00:27:33.000 Of course, they didn't call it the gospel message, but in the New Testament, we refer to it.
00:27:37.000 One of the things you'll find through all the stories in the book is this the faith of Abraham.
00:27:42.000 Abraham is the father of the faithful.
00:27:44.000 But before he was Abraham, he was just Abram. 0.72
00:27:48.000 Abram was a guy that had some doubts, some inconsistencies, and some insecurities.
00:27:54.000 And as a result, he tried to do things his own way.
00:27:57.000 Kind of like me, probably not like you, but I've tried to do things my own way, Charlie, and it always leads to the wrong direction.
00:28:05.000 But when I become Abraham, when I see the Lord and the things that I'm doing, I find the through line in my book is the Abrahamic spirit that faith adhered to and applied where I have an expertise always produces the best results for me.
00:28:22.000 And more importantly, for the nation or for the world where I'm called to serve.
00:28:27.000 And whether it's Norman Burlaug, whether it's Dorothea Dix fighting for those who are mentally challenged, all what we see through all of their lives is this dependence on God under pressure and how their faith is bolstered, not by the results, but by the peace that comes in the midst of a crisis.
00:28:49.000 You can have that.
00:28:51.000 And if you read the book, One Nation Always Under God, you'll find how to have peace in the midst of challenges and how to believe that America's best days are ahead of us.
00:29:02.000 And thank God they are.
00:29:04.000 Praise the Lord.
00:29:04.000 Amen.
00:29:05.000 Senator, thank you so much.
00:29:07.000 And we'll be praying for you.
00:29:08.000 And thank you for being an example of a godly Christian leader in the U.S. Senate.
00:29:12.000 One Nation Always Under God by Senator Tim Scott.
00:29:15.000 Thank you so much.
00:29:16.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:29:16.000 God bless you.
00:29:17.000 I hope to see you sometime on the show again.
00:29:19.000 Yes, sir.
00:29:20.000 You're welcome anytime.
00:29:21.000 Thank you.
00:29:21.000 Yes, sir.
00:29:22.000 That was beautiful.
00:29:23.000 I love leaders that are unafraid to preach the gospel in the public square.
00:29:28.000 So necessary, so needed, so rare.
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00:30:35.000 Breaking news over the weekend.
00:30:38.000 So the left is going on and on about how Sidney Sweeney and her new ad for American Eagle is Nazi propaganda and right-wing fascism.
00:30:47.000 But somebody decided to go look up her voter registration, and it turns out that Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican.
00:30:58.000 That's right, Sidney Sweeney is a right-winger.
00:31:00.000 Now, this has people very confused and surprised.
00:31:03.000 And you haven't been paying attention about how young people have been moving to the right.
00:31:07.000 But there, of course, the very easy explanation.
00:31:09.000 Sidney Sweeney, she knows her audience.
00:31:12.000 Her audience is a bunch of young Gen Z men that have been moving dramatically to the right. 0.67
00:31:18.000 And of course, after this, Sidney Sweeney has not responded to this at all.
00:31:22.000 You got to imagine this is only further radicalizing her to the right. 1.00
00:31:26.000 She's an all-American girl.
00:31:27.000 She grew up in near Spokane, right near the Idaho border.
00:31:31.000 We don't know how conservative she is, to be clear, but she doesn't have to default to being a lib just to survive as a celebrity. 1.00
00:31:38.000 You had to do that for a long time.
00:31:39.000 And she has not put out some sort of, oh, well, actually, I hate XYZ.
00:31:44.000 And now this is American Eagle Stock.
00:31:46.000 Put 313 up on screen.
00:31:47.000 Boom.
00:31:48.000 Look at the stock of American Eagle skyrocketing.
00:31:52.000 That is American Eagle that is up 33% in the last month, just since the Sidney Sweeney ad.
00:31:58.000 All of a sudden, people are talking about buying American Eagle just to show solidarity.
00:32:05.000 And of course, PlayCo312.
00:32:07.000 Sydney Sweeney is a very hot actress right now.
00:32:09.000 She's a registered Republican.
00:32:11.000 Oh, now I love her ad.
00:32:14.000 Is that right?
00:32:14.000 Is Sydney Sweeney?
00:32:16.000 You'd be surprised at how many people are Republicans.
00:32:20.000 That's what I wouldn't have known, but I'm glad you told me that.
00:32:24.000 If Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican, I think her ad is fantastic.
00:32:30.000 284, President Donald Trump puts up on Truth Social.
00:32:33.000 Sidney Sweeney, a registered Republican, has the hottest ad out there.
00:32:37.000 It's for American Eagle.
00:32:38.000 And the genes are flying off the shelves.
00:32:40.000 Go get them, Sidney.
00:32:41.000 And the other side of the ledger, Jaguar did a stupid, seriously woke advertisement.
00:32:44.000 It's a total disaster.
00:32:45.000 President Donald Trump is a cultural phenomenon and a cultural force.
00:32:45.000 Goes on.
00:32:50.000 And he has helped lead this entire right-wing revolution.
00:32:53.000 The Democrats are now.
00:32:55.000 Look, if you really want to lose men for a generation, if you want to lose men permanently, keep on doing what you're doing.
00:33:03.000 I don't think there's an easier way to lose young men.
00:33:06.000 The best equivalent I could give for an older audience.
00:33:08.000 Could you imagine if the Democrat Party would have attacked Farah Fawcett for being a fascist or would have attacked Kathy Ireland or Brooke Shields or Pamela Anderson or Carmen Elektra in generations prior?
00:33:23.000 Every time they call Sidney Sweeney a fascist, a young man registers as a Republican.
00:33:30.000 A floundering, aimless, desperate political movement.
00:33:36.000 And now there's new footage that shows that Sidney Sweeney is, ooh, she shoots guns.
00:33:41.000 And they say this was a fascist right-wing advertisement.
00:33:46.000 Well, now I guess she's a terrible person because she knows how to fire a gun rather well, I might say. 1.00
00:33:54.000 I think I know the exact shooting range she was at there, by the way.
00:33:57.000 That's where I saw Joe Rogan.
00:33:58.000 I think I know exactly.
00:33:59.000 It's right near Camarillo, I think.
00:34:00.000 I know exactly where that is, where a lot of celebrities go to shoot.
00:34:03.000 It's where I ran into Rogan once.
00:34:05.000 The situation in front of the Democrats right now is rather perplexing.
00:34:13.000 But honestly, the more that they're just going to attack a non-controversial, kind of just nothing ad, but the more young men continue to move to the right.
00:34:25.000 Their cultural dominance is just dead.
00:34:28.000 They used to have complete monopoly over the culture.
00:34:31.000 And this shows that they have no such control, no such dominance.
00:34:36.000 And the country is moving further and further to the right.
00:34:38.000 Woke is a zombie.
00:34:40.000 And the future is American.
00:34:42.000 Dare I say, American Eagle.
00:34:44.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:46.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:48.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.