Sen. Tim Scott (D-VA) joins us to talk about profiles in Christian courage, Mark Halperin joins us about the state of the Democratic Party, also the Texas Redistricting fight, and President Donald Trump shouts out that Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican.
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00:01:36.000Mark, I want to begin by asking you about this Texas redistricting fight.
00:01:41.000Do you think this will trigger more gerrymandering fights from Democrat states and further disfiguring our already unrecognizable congressional districts in many states across the country?
00:01:52.000I mean, they'll talk about it in about five or six states, but the laws are all different, right?
00:01:56.000And I'm not sure they'll be able to both get it executed and actually take advantage of it.
00:02:02.000Because as is true in Texas, when you start playing with the maps, you risk endangering seats you hold currently by trying to move around Republican support.
00:02:10.000So I'd be surprised if more than one or two Democratic states actually tried this for real, and I'm not sure they'd execute it.
00:02:17.000So there's a lot of talk about it, and it's an interesting, you know, tit-for-tat story.
00:02:21.000But if you go state by state and look at the laws, it's not clear to me where Democrats would pick up the seats to offset what Texas is almost certainly going to do.
00:02:31.000But a lot of this hinges on the Republicans believing Hispanics will continue to go right wing.
00:02:38.000If that doesn't happen, then this redraw ends up becoming maybe even a Democrat positive.
00:02:44.000Talk about how the Hispanic move in Texas makes this a Republican move.
00:02:49.00010 years ago, this wouldn't have actually been that way.
00:02:51.000And how much of the Texas gambit is really reliant on the continuing changing of the Republican Party's core demographics?
00:03:12.000Texas will become a purple state and then a solidly blue state.
00:03:16.000And what disrupted that was not just Donald Trump, but the party's identity overall and some other Republican candidates developing the capacity to appeal to Hispanic voters, working class voters, religious voters, conservatives, people who want to be tough on the border, people who think the U.S. should not be funding NATO.
00:03:36.000Hispanic voters have some differences, but a lot of them are like the rest of the electorate.
00:03:43.000They're ready to vote with the candidate or the party that appeals to them.
00:03:48.000So it's clear that it's up for grabs, but it's also clear that the inexorable move of Texas to purple and then blue has been disrupted by several factors.
00:03:59.000Most of all, the ability to compete for Hispanic voters, a growing share of the electorate in Texas.
00:04:10.000Well, Donald Trump and his co-conspirator, Greg Abbott, erode our democracy and drag us toward authoritarianism.
00:04:21.000Now, what Texas and Republican states are doing at the direction of Donald Trump, I say is nothing short of a legal insurrection against our capital.
00:04:33.000If Republicans are willing to rewrite these rules to give themselves an advantage, then they're leaving us no choice.
00:05:08.000New York redrew their maps, though, to eliminate three Republican seats in 2023.
00:05:14.000This is not a new concept for major states to try and 2022 to try and change lines to benefit one political party.
00:05:25.000Well, it's as old as the Republic, practically.
00:05:28.000And I find it somewhat hilarious to hear these Democrats on their high horse about how horrible it is to redistrict for political advantage because both parties have done it.
00:05:37.000Particularly ironic that some of the Texas Democratic legislators took refuge in Illinois, a state that has one of the most aggressive Democratic redistricting.
00:05:48.000And, you know, Democrats basically have the attitude, and I wouldn't say Republicans differ.
00:05:55.000We're for redistricting in blue states that benefit us, but red states, they shouldn't do it.
00:05:59.000And, you know, Republicans say the opposite.
00:06:01.000So if Kathy Hochul thinks she can wring more Democratic states out of the map, and if the legislature will go along with her and they can execute, maybe she can offset the Danes Democrats and Republicans expect in Texas.
00:06:17.000We went through a period where good government types prevailed in a lot of states to say redistricting should be nonpartisan.
00:06:26.000There shouldn't be anything close to this, that the line should be drawn to keep communities together, not so-called gerrymandered.
00:06:32.000We are drawing them with sophisticated technology specifically to try to maximize the partisan edge of one side.
00:06:38.000And of course, statistically, you can see where it's effective and where those who believe it shouldn't be done are losing out because you know how many people vote in the state for Democrats and Republicans.
00:06:49.000That should represent the rough balance of what makes up the congressional delegation.
00:06:54.000But we see in state after state, that's not the case, even though some states have adopted nonpartisan commissions and other efforts to keep this from being political.
00:07:04.000It's not surprising these Democratic states want to.
00:07:07.000I'm just not sure they'll be able to execute on it.
00:07:09.000One of the reasons we love having you on the program, Mark, is you are an honest reporter.
00:07:14.000You got the Biden story right and correct well before anybody else.
00:07:18.000And you talk to people on the left quite frequently.
00:07:22.000I want to play this piece of tape and get your take on whether or not this is accurate of the type of Democrat mentality you're seeing and sensing.
00:07:43.0001820s, 1860s, 1920s, 1960s, we're in the 2020s.
00:07:46.000We're not getting out this to the 2060s.
00:07:48.000It's going to take a long time to fix these.
00:07:50.000I mean, it might not take 40 years, Mark, but are Democrats really that demoralized?
00:07:55.000Some of them are because Donald Trump's victory, as you well know, Charlie, because you've studied it, it's not just he won the popular vote.
00:08:02.000It's the move of these demographic groups towards him, the moves of many counties towards him, and the lack of ideas.
00:08:10.000You know, right now, why are Democrats all jazzed up about this redistricting thing?
00:08:14.000Because they can fight Donald Trump in a dramatic way.
00:08:17.000They'll get a lot of news coverage for it.
00:08:22.000Donald Trump fights on process, but that's not why he was one two out of three elections.
00:08:27.000He talks about ideas that real Americans think about will impact their real lives in a positive way.
00:08:32.000And so Democrats who think they're going to be in the wilderness for a while see a lack of leadership, see a lack of fundraising, see a lack of Democratic shows like yours.
00:08:40.000But I think most of what they see is just a lack of ideas, a lack of capacity to say the American people, we can make your life better.
00:08:46.000Again, I'm not, this show is not a show where we're always like, oh, the red wave is coming and Democrats are always going to be wiped out.
00:08:52.000But Mark, at this point of time, I would have expected a lot more small dollar Democrat fundraising, a lot more candidate recruitment.
00:09:00.000Can you at least give us a little bit of an idea what is going on in the kind of mechanics, the gritting of the Democrat Party?
00:09:16.000They won all those Senate races in the contested states that Donald Trump won.
00:09:20.000They may well take control of the House.
00:09:21.000So it's not like they're going down to a 14% party.
00:09:25.000What's happening is the DNC is not sophisticated.
00:09:28.000They're behind by more than they realize on technology used for voter registration, voter turnout.
00:09:34.000And small dollar fundraising is going to be depressed if you don't have charismatic leaders who are doing stuff that people are excited about.
00:10:00.000And part of it, again, is the lack of ideas, but also a lot on the mechanics side where they're, as I said, they're further behind, I think, than they realize.
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00:11:42.000It's the natural resting state of what I call the dominant media.
00:11:47.000They want to be in opposition to Donald Trump.
00:11:50.000And after 2016, and he won, there was like a five-minute thing where the New York Times said, we really need to understand America.
00:11:57.000And then it was basically four years of Trump derangement syndrome and then four more years.
00:12:02.000And then after he won in 2024 and got off to such a fast start in the transition, I think there was it was at its low point within the media, which is they respected his victory.
00:12:12.000They were embarrassed privately about Joe Biden and their role in covering up his loss of mental acuity.
00:12:19.000And if you look at the coverage and the transition and through the first few months, it wasn't laudatory, but it wasn't as reflective of Trump derangement syndrome.
00:12:28.000In the last few weeks, it's all come back.
00:12:35.000The information on the economy is mixed, but now it's all being reported as negative.
00:12:40.000Even some Republicans will say they're not crazy about the president's firing the head of the Bureau of Labor statistics.
00:12:45.000But now that's being turned into a metaphor for what a horrible guy Donald Trump is.
00:12:50.000Donald Trump says some inaccurate things quite regularly.
00:12:54.000And so now they're attributing that to both him being a huge liar and loss of mental acuity on his part, covering it way more than Joe Biden was ever covered.
00:13:04.000So I don't believe there's a cure for this Trump derangement syndrome.
00:13:08.000And I believe most of all that Donald Trump benefits so much from Trump derangement syndrome, so much.
00:13:14.000And that's the ultimate irony of the media is Trump derangement syndrome.
00:13:17.000They're helping the very person they're trying to destroy.
00:13:34.000Everyone would be starting new groups, new protest movements.
00:13:36.000I'm not saying that there's no energy, but I suppose Mom Donnie is a little bit of a manifestation of this, but there are so obvious shortfalls.
00:13:46.000I mean, they're trying, for example, they've tried a couple very just like low energy, just lackluster attempts to try to win over younger people to come after Turning Point USA.
00:14:00.000I suppose when you're talking to Democrat operatives, why are they, how are they assessing their lack of bottom-up political entrepreneurs?
00:14:13.000One is it's just, I don't know if you call it luck, bad luck, whatever, but they just don't have the kind of people like you and others who are both talented content creators and also people who believe in the cause.
00:14:26.000You've got, you know, the guys at crooked media, they're just as likely to take a dump on a presidential candidate of their own party than they are to look for the good.
00:14:36.000So that's number one is they just don't have the horses.
00:14:39.000Number two, again, they're so spoiled by having the dominant media on their side.
00:14:46.000You all rose up in reaction to an absence in the market of voices to be counterposed.
00:14:52.000Even though the dominant media is nowhere near as powerful as it used to be, even though Biden and Harris have caused a bit of a fissure, it's still every game's a home game for them.
00:15:01.000And so they just don't have the same incentive.
00:15:43.000And Mark, in person, I'd love to explore this topic deeper.
00:15:46.000Again, this is not just trying to celebrate everything down at Turning Point USA, which I do believe is worthy of appreciation, but it's perplexing, right?
00:15:52.000Because you look at that Voters of Tomorrow summit that Nancy Pelosi spoke at.
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00:18:29.000Well, Charlie, for me, it comes right down to one thing.
00:18:31.000As a kid growing up in poverty, single-parent households, you know, one of the most devastating realities of our country is too many kids grow up in fatherless homes.
00:18:41.000And as one of those kids, I got to tell you, you either turn to drugs, you turn to gangs, you turn to team sports, you turn to something to help you understand who you are.
00:18:51.000And I was blessed by a praying grandmother and a praying mother who taught me that my identity isn't in gangs or drugs or even in sports, though I love them.
00:19:02.000My identity would only be found in Christ.
00:19:05.000And so long story short, Charlie, I had a great friend who taught me that he was happy because Jesus Christ was the Lord of his life.
00:19:14.000He was living in a single wide trailer.
00:19:18.000His family, they were poor, almost as poor as we were.
00:19:21.000But he had this energy, this enthusiasm about life.
00:19:25.000And he said it came from the source called Jesus.
00:19:28.000And I literally asked the question, what else?
00:19:31.000Because there must be something else besides Jesus.
00:19:34.000And I learned as a freshman in college that when you give your life to Jesus, nothing is the same.
00:19:41.000And you find the father you're looking for.
00:19:45.000Ephesians 2 writes the story of our lives, giving us the identity that we need in Christ Jesus.
00:19:52.000And Galatians 3:28 tells me I was adopted into the king of kings, the Lord of Lords, family.
00:20:01.000And so I could always be confident and strong in who I am in Christ.
00:20:06.000I might not be strong in who I am without Christ, but in him, I can celebrate.
00:20:12.000And so I always make sure that I never forget where I come from and now whose I am.
00:20:20.000And that's always a time to celebrate.
00:20:23.000And frankly, Charlie, my mother wanted a preacher, so I'm trying to be short because once I start winding up on Christ, sometimes I go a little long.
00:20:39.000The foundations of this country are a Judeo-Christian foundation.
00:20:44.000Anyone who suggests otherwise, they are just lying to you or completely misled.
00:20:50.000Number two, our future will be defined by our adherence to that Judeo-Christian ethos that has been the foundation of the greatest story on earth.
00:21:51.000Yeah, one of the things I wanted to do, you know, one of the most controversial things I've ever said, I think as a public official, is that America is not a racist country.
00:21:59.000And I was attacked vehemently in response to President Biden's comments and Kamala Harris's comments and the whole world went crazy.
00:22:08.000And so when I wrote this book, I had that in the back of my mind.
00:22:11.000See, America, we certainly have an original sin.
00:22:14.000We were born into sin and conceived in wickedness in a way.
00:22:19.000The truth of the matter, though, is that we've always fought for our identity through the Declaration of Independence, that God gave us these inalienable rights that come from God, not from Man.
00:22:30.000So I wanted to tell the story of a little-known guy named William Lloyd Garrison who fought tooth and nail for the freedom he believed only comes from God.
00:22:52.000But here's a guy willing to lose his fortune, lose his fame, and frankly, lose his life just so that he could do what God had called him to do.
00:23:02.000And it's a fantastic story by the book, One Nation Always Under God, and here how he overcame the challenges, how he escaped a mob because he felt like he had to go into the fire to come out looking like gold.
00:23:18.000And that's what God does with ordinary people time and time again.
00:23:22.000Hey, listen, I've watched your YouTubes, Charlie.
00:23:25.000And the one thing I can tell you about your YouTube is you're on fire when you are challenging the most liberal orthodoxy on college campuses and around this country because you believe that there's this core to your soul that is anchored in Christ.
00:23:40.000And you have an obligation, a responsibility, and frankly, the good fortune to educate the misinformed, to educate the miseducated, and to educate the indoctrinated.
00:23:51.000We need to have more stories like yours and William Lloyd Garrison to remind people of our future.
00:24:48.000And then everything that could go wrong, including running out of oxygen hundreds of thousands of miles, not just from home, but from earth.
00:25:02.000One of the scriptures I love in the Bible is Matthew 22, 37 that says we should love the Lord our God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength.
00:25:10.000Well, how do we love the Lord our God with all of our minds?
00:25:17.000And what you'll read in Jim Lovell's story is how he developed his mind about the things of being an astronaut.
00:25:23.000And as a result, under pressure, your mind instinctively goes to where it has spent a lot of time.
00:25:30.000And fortunately for the other astronauts out in space with him, his mind went to problem solving.
00:25:38.000He figured out how to calm his nerves.
00:25:41.0001 Peter 5, 7 reminds us that we can cast all of our cares upon the Lord, for he cares for us.
00:25:47.000In that state, he found peace that allowed him to put together how to conserve the oxygen, get back to Earth, and save the lives of his fellow astronauts, all while praising the Lord.
00:26:00.000I believe that we are not always going to have great times.
00:26:03.000Sometimes we run into something that seems insurmountable.
00:26:10.000You have great faith, whether it works or whether it doesn't.
00:26:14.000You're always better off leaning into your faith during times of crisis.
00:26:19.000Jim Lovell's story in One Nation Always Under God is a great place to understand what to do when you find yourself in an extraordinary circumstance that requires an extraordinary God.
00:26:34.000We only have a couple of minutes remaining here, Senator.
00:26:36.000Again, the book is One Nation Always Under God Profiles in Christian Courage.
00:26:40.000What would you say is the through line between William Lloyd Garrison, Jim Lovell, Dorothea Dix, Norman Berlaug that you talk about in this book?
00:26:50.000When you were putting this book together, when you were composing it, they all had Christian courage, but is there a biblical character consistency between all of these people that you try to then apply to your entire life?
00:27:09.000Tell us what you learned as far as similarities between all of these people in different walks of life, in different times, in different centuries, the commonalities and the similarities that some of them had.
00:27:21.000You know, Genesis 12, 1 and 2 reminds us 2 and 3, actually.
00:27:24.000Tells us that the good Lord will make your name great here upon the earth as you adhere to the gospel message, so to speak, in the Old Testament.
00:27:33.000Of course, they didn't call it the gospel message, but in the New Testament, we refer to it.
00:27:37.000One of the things you'll find through all the stories in the book is this the faith of Abraham.
00:27:42.000Abraham is the father of the faithful.
00:27:44.000But before he was Abraham, he was just Abram.
00:27:48.000Abram was a guy that had some doubts, some inconsistencies, and some insecurities.
00:27:54.000And as a result, he tried to do things his own way.
00:27:57.000Kind of like me, probably not like you, but I've tried to do things my own way, Charlie, and it always leads to the wrong direction.
00:28:05.000But when I become Abraham, when I see the Lord and the things that I'm doing, I find the through line in my book is the Abrahamic spirit that faith adhered to and applied where I have an expertise always produces the best results for me.
00:28:22.000And more importantly, for the nation or for the world where I'm called to serve.
00:28:27.000And whether it's Norman Burlaug, whether it's Dorothea Dix fighting for those who are mentally challenged, all what we see through all of their lives is this dependence on God under pressure and how their faith is bolstered, not by the results, but by the peace that comes in the midst of a crisis.
00:28:51.000And if you read the book, One Nation Always Under God, you'll find how to have peace in the midst of challenges and how to believe that America's best days are ahead of us.
00:29:33.000It's hard to believe it was even possible, but the Democrat-run states are now more pro-abortion than ever and will only get worse unless you join me standing for life.
00:29:43.000This is Charlie Kirk, and we're saving babies right now with pre-born.
00:32:55.000Look, if you really want to lose men for a generation, if you want to lose men permanently, keep on doing what you're doing.
00:33:03.000I don't think there's an easier way to lose young men.
00:33:06.000The best equivalent I could give for an older audience.
00:33:08.000Could you imagine if the Democrat Party would have attacked Farah Fawcett for being a fascist or would have attacked Kathy Ireland or Brooke Shields or Pamela Anderson or Carmen Elektra in generations prior?
00:33:23.000Every time they call Sidney Sweeney a fascist, a young man registers as a Republican.
00:33:30.000A floundering, aimless, desperate political movement.
00:33:36.000And now there's new footage that shows that Sidney Sweeney is, ooh, she shoots guns.
00:33:41.000And they say this was a fascist right-wing advertisement.
00:33:46.000Well, now I guess she's a terrible person because she knows how to fire a gun rather well, I might say.
00:33:54.000I think I know the exact shooting range she was at there, by the way.
00:34:05.000The situation in front of the Democrats right now is rather perplexing.
00:34:13.000But honestly, the more that they're just going to attack a non-controversial, kind of just nothing ad, but the more young men continue to move to the right.
00:34:25.000Their cultural dominance is just dead.
00:34:28.000They used to have complete monopoly over the culture.
00:34:31.000And this shows that they have no such control, no such dominance.
00:34:36.000And the country is moving further and further to the right.