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00:01:09.000All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Michael McCoy.
00:02:47.000So I have a lot to say about some happenings in pop culture.
00:02:50.000And there are some stories that are actually important to understand if you're out there.
00:02:54.000If you're just like a pure politics junkie, more like I would call, I would consider myself more of like the politics culture, you know, sociology junkie.
00:03:03.000It's kind of like the confluence of where these macro trends are taking our culture.
00:03:07.000But part of that is what's happening on TikTok and pop culture.
00:03:10.000And we need to be sure that we're paying attention to this.
00:03:13.000And we're going to also bring Daisy Phelps from our team in because, you know, she knows this stuff too.
00:03:27.000Anyway, so I want to get in first, though, with this, what's happening with this Epstein thing.
00:03:31.000So I actually, we were going to bring it up yesterday, but there was things coming out that I wanted to make sure that we waited on just because I was frankly a little distracted with H-1Bs, which I think is a way bigger deal than what some emails that the Democrats released.
00:05:27.000If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency.
00:05:33.000You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you.
00:05:37.000Or if it really looks like he could win, you could save him, generating a debt.
00:05:42.000Of course, it is possible that when asked, he'll say Jeffrey is a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a Trump regime.
00:06:27.000She has exonerated President Trump, saying that she never saw him do anything.
00:06:32.000She actually, her dad is now on record saying that she wanted him to be present because he was going to release the information on Epstein.
00:06:39.000This is a complete and utter nothing burger from what I can tell.
00:06:45.000It's not a total nothing burger because what we are also getting is, and this is like really funny, we're getting a lot of other emails.
00:06:52.000So we're getting, you know, Larry Summers, the former president of Harvard, and we're getting his emails with Epstein, which, if nothing else, are really funny.
00:07:01.000There's a few exchanges that are very funny.
00:07:03.000One is where he sends a message to Epstein where he says, like, is it true that Donald Trump uses cocaine?
00:07:11.000And Epstein just replies, hey, could I have Harvard give a guided tour from the development office, the fundraising office?
00:07:20.000Could they give a guided tour of Harvard to this Rothschild heir that I know?
00:07:24.000And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I could set that up.
00:10:48.000So we're talking about the Epstein nothing burger.
00:10:52.000I'm going to call it a nothing burger, but Blake is right.
00:10:54.000There are funny and interesting things like, you know, Larry Summers exchanges.
00:10:59.000There's also accusations by Jeffrey Epstein that he was somehow spending Thanksgiving with President Trump.
00:11:07.000But then we look at the flight logs and the travel logs during 2017 when this allegation is made and President Trump is doing official business.
00:11:14.000He's also spending Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago, which Jeffrey Epstein was banned from Mar-a-Lago in 2007.
00:11:20.000Which leads to the whole point is that this all reads as some elaborate hoax.
00:11:29.000He hates Donald Trump because Donald Trump was one of the few people in this elite upper tier of society that basically called him out as the creep and the criminal that he was, banned him from Mar-a-Lago.
00:11:42.000Well, that's exactly what I was thinking the whole time you were saying this.
00:11:44.000Was like, why is he writing this in the emails when everyone in this circle of Palm Beach knows that Trump was like the one person to go toe-to-toe with him and be like, you're a weirdo.
00:11:56.000You know, stop hitting on these young girls.
00:12:00.000And I think President Trump is a father.
00:12:02.000He's very protective of his daughters.
00:12:05.000I think he could see him for what he was from the get-go and was very quick to call that out.
00:12:11.000Well, maybe not from the get-go, but eventually he figured it out.
00:12:13.000And Trump, he said he got pissed off because they were stealing his employees from Mar-a-Lago.
00:17:27.000So there's, so this is the theme, which is ironic coming after Jeffrey Epstein, like the most anti-family topic you can imagine.
00:17:36.000And yet here we pivot to Hollywood pop culture.
00:17:39.000And there is a theme emerging, Alex, that some of the brightest stars that are, you know, young stars are now defending the idea of family and they're fighting against this prevalent anti-family messaging that we've always associated with Hollywood.
00:17:55.000Am I summing it up somewhat accurately here?
00:17:58.000I was so surprised the songs that are coming out, the statements that are coming out from A-list stars defending having children, slamming hedonism, essentially, and talking about how they just want to have, you know, kids and there's nothing wrong with it.
00:18:19.000And in fact, saying it's weird if you brag about not having children.
00:18:24.000I mean, this is a total, complete 360 from the messaging that we've had the last 10 years.
00:18:31.000And it seems like overnight this year, there's been a shift.
00:18:35.000Well, and I think, so a couple weeks ago, we had talked about when the member called in, there was a new Taylor Swift song about how she just wanted to have kids and settle down.
00:18:42.000And people were saying that was Trad wife or alt-right propaganda.
00:18:47.000So we had talked about that a little bit, but I think that what's even a bigger story than that, everyone's talking about this Kelsey Ballerini song that just came out.
00:18:55.000And I texted Emma Kay as soon as this came out and I was like, I would pay money for Charlie to be able to hear this song because it's not only someone who just in Hollywood is now saying they focused too much on their career.
00:19:08.000It's someone who just previously in the last couple of years was saying they didn't want to have a family, had a very public divorce, trashing her ex-husband very publicly because he wanted a family and she did.
00:19:19.000So we have that clip of Alex or of Kelsey Ballerini on I think I got it.
00:21:33.000Outer Banks actor on Netflix, big teen drama series.
00:21:39.000I have a whole, so can I just say something that's really a wild theory about this?
00:21:44.000They've been dating for three years, broke up like the day after Charlie was murdered.
00:21:48.000And then now they're back together two months later.
00:21:50.000My theory, as soon as I saw this, because I believe he had commented something positive about Charlie, and I think maybe it was deleted or something right in those like first few hours after his death.
00:22:03.000Obviously, we don't know for sure, but I have a hunch that maybe he came out and defended Charlie and said that this was wrong and he didn't deserve to be killed.
00:22:12.000And I think Kelsey freaked out because she is a huge lib and I think she dumped him.
00:22:17.000And now she's sitting in parks in Nashville and she's watching all these young, gorgeous families where the husband is strong and doting on his wife and they look so happy and they're sitting on the blanket playing with their children and she's sitting there hitting a vape being like, I guess I got to go refill my Lexapro prescription.
00:22:30.000Wow, this is like super dark and depressing.
00:22:32.000Maybe I jumped the gun on this breakup.
00:22:36.000I just wonder if it had to do a little bit with Charlie.
00:22:39.000But beyond that, I think this is so, this is such an important story to tell what she's doing because we do not set young women up for success when it comes to motherhood.
00:22:53.000We should be talking to them when it comes to chasing your dreams and what career you want to have.
00:22:57.000We should be having these conversations in high school, letting them know, hey, it's okay if you want to chase a career.
00:23:03.000However, you should know that statistically, statistically, you are going to want to have children.
00:23:10.000And that if you have a career when you have children, 65% of women will drop out of the workforce completely once they have kids or they want to go down to part-time.
00:23:19.000So if you know that statistically going into choosing your career path, choosing your degree, what career path or what degree would you choose that would be more conducive to motherhood?
00:24:37.000And so I think it's really important that these huge celebrities like Timothy Chalamet saying, bragging about having kids and how much time afforded to them to do other stuff.
00:24:45.000It's bleak that people are bragging about not having kids.
00:24:47.000Yeah, Timothy Chalamet, actually, I don't know much about him.
00:25:07.000Is this crash course in reality that kind of knocks women on the head once they're in their 30s if they purposefully chose a life of pursuing career and selfish pursuits above having a family and children?
00:25:25.000And so with Kelsey, she is really, it's important to make sure that she understands that feminism lied to her.
00:25:36.000She wasn't given true, she wasn't really given informed consent on what she was choosing and what she could potentially.
00:25:43.000Now, there's still time for her to get pregnant and have a family, but they weren't honest with her about how you can have it all as a woman.
00:25:50.000But what we're missing when we're talking to young women is telling them it just may not be all at the same time.
00:26:12.000It's also like an emotional clock for women that no matter how much you push it off, push it off, this is something that you were made to do.
00:26:18.000And when you purposefully put it off, so when you are not living a godly season of singleness where you are dedicating your life to the Lord and you are praying for a future family and all of that, that's different than purposely choosing singleness, okay, for selfish reasons.
00:26:35.000When that time comes and you're realizing, oh, snap, like I have very small, a very small window here to have a family, you are picking a mate then and who's going to be the future husband of your children or who's going to be the father of your children under pressure.
00:26:50.000You're not going to pick, I don't think, as thoughtful of a partner as you would when you have more time and you're in your 20s, you know, if God allows and you meet that person in your life.
00:27:00.000Again, I feel bad for her first husband because he was right the entire time and she blew him off.
00:27:08.000And now look at the mess that she's made.
00:27:30.000Our podcast is doing great, but my kids matter way more than how many social media followers that I have.
00:27:35.000And I would also tell young ladies, you can always go back to your career later, that there is a window where you primarily should pursue marriage and having children.
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00:29:22.000Alex, you had a thought off of the back of Charlie's.
00:29:29.000I think what's important to talk about when it comes to women and this idea of career versus family is that we are told another lie that we are told by the feminist movement is that you can have a family anytime you want.
00:29:46.000Even with different fertility technologies, it is not a guarantee that you will get pregnant with IVF.
00:29:51.000It is not a guarantee that you will get pregnant in any other way.
00:29:54.000And so you're telling women to wait till the very, very end of their fertility window to then attempt to try to have a family.
00:30:00.000Meanwhile, they've had a decade plus on birth control.
00:30:03.000You have no idea what hormonal issues are brewing underneath because you've been ignoring it and stifling any symptoms that you might be dealing with to let you know something's going on with the birth control.
00:30:13.000So then when it is time to get pregnant and have a family, you can't.
00:30:17.000You're spending $30,000 on IVF that may or may not work.
00:30:20.000It's just when Charlie talked about the importance of family, and I know that made a lot of women sensitive, he wasn't doing it to be a bully.
00:30:30.000He was doing it from such a good, pure place in his heart, saying, I have experienced the best thing in life.
00:30:37.000It was a fatherly, loving warning to young women because he loves you so much that he's telling you the truth that culture isn't willing to tell you.
00:30:49.000As much as I think it's frustrating and I disagree with Kelsey Ballarini's reason for divorce, that's great that she made this song because she's being open and honest about maybe I made a mistake and that could encourage other young women to think twice about their own selfish pursuits and mistakes that they could be making, putting career above a family when you have a very small window to be able to have a family.
00:31:12.000I love, no, but I love what you said that he, because listen, Charlie used to complain when he would talk about this topic because inevitably it would cause this huge uproar and he'd get he'd get write-ups on like on these like pop culture outlets, you know, that we usually didn't get write-ups on because, you know, oftentimes it would just be political media that would pick up Charlie stories.
00:31:34.000When he would talk about this, it would become this huge uproar.
00:31:37.000And he was, and I remember we actually have the clip.
00:31:40.000It's basically the same thing he said, but he went on Laura, I think, two nights before he was killed.
00:31:46.000And he said that, and Laura threw him this question because it was becoming like this big uproar again.
00:31:50.000And he's like, you could see him almost like roll his eyes.
00:31:52.000Like, every time I talk about this, Laura, like, it becomes a huge thing.
00:31:55.000But I love what you said because he wasn't trying to be a bully.
00:31:58.000He was trying to say, I want the best for you.
00:32:00.000And if I don't just tell it to you straight, like, you're not going to like hear it because nobody else is willing to do this because of the uproar.
00:32:08.000I'm willing to take the slings and arrows, and this is the truth.
00:32:10.000I thought Joe Bob really did a great job yesterday on the show, too, talking about this.
00:32:14.000He said, We started dating at 19, got married way later, and we had kids way later after that.
00:32:19.000He goes, Once I had kids, I realized that how much life just doesn't really matter, and that is what matters in life.
00:32:24.000He goes, I would sooner go work at a Costco if it meant that I could be with my kids more often.
00:32:30.000And like that statement from Joe Bob made me go home until Elizabeth was like, We should get some of that.
00:32:35.000Oh, we're going to have more recorded after this.
00:32:39.000So I'm going to get into this, and I want to bring Blake into this conversation as well here.
00:32:42.000So, Blake, if you're listening, we've got this, it's kind of like a viral story.
00:33:10.000I'm just going to start by saying that any out-of-context message, like I will not give too intense of an opinion until I receive more context.
00:33:19.000But I'm Alex, you want to kind of discuss this?
00:34:33.000Because when that much of your life is being when you're, when your thought to something super personal and just super between two people like this, is to blast it on the internet.
00:35:10.000It's making an event out of it when it should be.
00:35:13.000It should be between the two of you and if they wouldn't say yes in private, then this is not a thing you should do Said, Blake, you would hope that the breaking off of a relationship that's serious enough to get to the point of engagement would be a little more heartbreaking instead of I'm just gonna post this online.
00:35:34.000And we don't know all the facts, we don't know what happened between the two of them, but I can't tell if people are upset that the ring is from Walmart or if they're upset that she said no in public or that she's just posting these messages online.
00:35:47.000I can't really tell what the issue is here, other than this couple should not be getting married.
00:35:52.000Mikey has a take that I think will inspire us blowing the break again because then we're gonna argue about it.
00:35:57.000Well, I don't know if I still agree with my old take because Blake, the real, you know, she her posting this is the problem.
00:36:05.000All right, but what if she's not a bad person?
00:36:07.000But let's pretend this was just leaked.
00:36:10.000I think from a view here, a lot of this is out of context, but she probably told her boyfriend many times what she wanted.
00:36:18.000And it could have been a $900 ring, but it could have been a very specific cut.
00:36:23.000And that's probably maybe her personality.
00:37:00.000I know Mikey and Andrew, you both went through this when you both proposed to your wives.
00:37:03.000Like, there is a specific color that each woman wears.
00:37:07.000And if I, if Luke had gotten down on money and posted me with a silver ring, I still would say yes, but I would say, hey, I've told you a thousand times I only wear gold jewelry.
00:37:42.000Most couples, when they get to this point in their relationship, they do discuss the ring.
00:37:47.000And if he just completely tuned that out and went to Walmart just to get it done and focused on the like show of it, I can understand why she's a little upset.