The Charlie Kirk Show - The Assange Must Be Pardoned

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00:00:02.000 Should we pardon Julian Assange?

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00:01:50.000 Joining us now is Gabriel Shipton, brother of Julian Assange.

00:01:54.000 Lots of Assange news right now.

00:01:56.000 Breaking from the Guardian.

00:01:57.000 Assange wins temporary reprieve in case against extradition to the United States.

00:02:01.000 Gabriel is film producer of Ithaca, and he's been on the program before.

00:02:05.000 Gabriel, welcome back to the program.

00:02:06.000 Please share the latest.

00:02:08.000 Yeah, good to be with you, Charlie.

00:02:10.000 So there was a judgment handed down today in the UK courts, which really gives Julian another chance, you know, another, lives to fight another day, essentially.

00:02:22.000 What it said is it's given the U.S. prosecutors three weeks to issue what the court is asking for, assurances.

00:02:33.000 And those are assurances that Julian will not receive the death penalty for his work as a journalist if he's extradited to the United States.

00:02:42.000 Also, that he is entitled to First Amendment protections if he is to be extradited, and that his freedom of expression rights will also be protected.

00:02:55.000 So, really, what the court has done is give the U.S. prosecutors here, the Biden administration, a chance to fix up their case with these diplomatic assurances.

00:03:10.000 And, you know, what's really bizarre about it is that the court, the UK courts, have actually acknowledged that the Biden administration and its Department of Justice was potentially pursuing a death sentence for the work that Julian did publishing these leaks, doing journalism, doing what every other publisher around the world does every day, taking this classified secret material and giving it to the public.

00:03:38.000 So I think the court has seen how outrageous this prosecution is, but also given the chance, given a chance to the Biden administration to correct that so that they could still potentially extradite Julian in three weeks' time.

00:03:55.000 So I want to just kind of get to the Wall Street Journal also said this last week, quote, that the U.S. Department of Justice is considering whether to allow Julian Assange to plead guilty to a reduced charge of mishandling classified information.

00:04:05.000 According to people familiar with the matter, which could eventually result in his release from British jail, the Wall Street Journal says it is to end a 14-year legal drama.

00:04:15.000 What can you tell us about this?

00:04:16.000 Well, Julian's lawyers, Julian's U.S. lawyers, Barry Pollock, came out at the time and said he hasn't had any contact with the Department of Justice.

00:04:26.000 There's been no deal offered to Julian and that the DOJ, they're actually doing the opposite.

00:04:32.000 They're continuing to pursue the extradition of Julian Assange to the United States.

00:04:39.000 So I think what I make of it is that this has become a real political hot potato for the Biden administration.

00:04:47.000 The last thing they want during election season is just rocking up in the Eastern District of Virginia in chains.

00:04:57.000 Another massive First Amendment case in the United States would not help the Biden administration during election year.

00:05:05.000 And I think they're putting out these sort of, they're almost front running the UK courts by putting out this sort of interest in a plea deal or a resolution, pushing it back on Julian in a sense.

00:05:23.000 But I think what's really important about this case is that, you know, it's been going on.

00:05:28.000 Julian will be in jail for now five years on the 11th of April.

00:05:32.000 That's five years.

00:05:34.000 He's not serving a sentence.

00:05:36.000 He's never been charged in the United Kingdom with any offense.

00:05:41.000 So what we're seeing here is this sort of washing, you know, using the UK legal system to wash a prosecution that really turns the First Amendment into a very much a walled garden in that sense that, you know, it's okay.

00:06:00.000 You can have your First Amendment rights, but you cannot, you know, report on national security.

00:06:05.000 You know, areas of investigative journalism are very limited.

00:06:09.000 And they're using the UK to really wash that and so that they don't have the domestic blowback if they were doing it in the United States to a U.S. journalist.

00:06:20.000 So I know that you've done this so many times, Gabriel, and you did this prior on the program.

00:06:26.000 I think it is worth repeating in about three to five minutes the backstory here because it's just been so long.

00:06:33.000 We have some younger viewers too that were literally five or six years old when this saga started.

00:06:38.000 What has the American government accused Assange of?

00:06:42.000 And do you think politics are at play here regarding WikiLeaks and certain families that might have been displaced from power?

00:06:49.000 So just walk us through kind of a quick backstory.

00:06:52.000 Well, Julian, Julian founded WikiLeaks in 2006.

00:06:57.000 Wikileaks was a organization that really disrupted mainstream media.

00:07:06.000 They took a lot of, they sort of decentralized leaking in a sense.

00:07:11.000 They took the leaks away from mainstream media and sort of published them for everyone so that there could be more transparency and more reporting on leaked information.

00:07:24.000 And they really came to prominence in 2010, 2011, when they published the leaks that were leaked by Chelsea Manning.

00:07:31.000 And those were related to the Afghanistan war logs, you know, undocumented deaths in Afghanistan, the now famous helicopter gunship video in Iraq of a helicopter gunship mowing down to Reuters journalists, as well as some civilians, diplomatic cables from around the world.

00:07:53.000 And it was really those publications that really upset the, you know, the military industrial complex as well as the intelligence organizations.

00:08:03.000 And that's when Julian, the pursuit of Julian, really began.

00:08:07.000 And that was about 13, 14 years ago.

00:08:10.000 And he's been detained one way or another ever since.

00:08:15.000 Now, in 2016, WikiLeaks famously published the Clinton emails, the Podesta emails.

00:08:22.000 And those were, you know, at the time, you know, it was in the lead up to the 2016 election and they were seen.

00:08:31.000 They really showed the corruption inside the DNC, you know, how the Clinton campaign conspired with the DNC to take the Democratic nomination from Bernie Sanders.

00:08:42.000 A lot of people say, Charlie, do you think that Julian Assange should be pardoned?

00:08:46.000 I say, of course he should.

00:08:48.000 Day one.

00:08:49.000 It's not even a question.

00:08:52.000 It's not even a question.

00:08:52.000 You got to pardon him.

00:08:54.000 The American people don't care about this.

00:08:55.000 By the way, handling a class of information, how is this any different than the Pentagon papers?

00:08:58.000 You're going to try to destroy a guy's life.

00:08:59.000 No, they're trying to make it a symbol.

00:09:01.000 By the way, this is DC psychopathic behavior at its finest.

00:09:05.000 Only D.C. insiders care about this.

00:09:07.000 Only D.C. insiders care about Julian Assange being held accountable.

00:09:14.000 He's a journalist.

00:09:15.000 They've been obsessed about this for more than a decade.

00:09:17.000 This is all military industrial complex stuff.

00:09:19.000 It is a show trial of a journalist that dared to try to expose the lies and the deception of the military industrial complex.

00:09:27.000 These are leaks straight from the military machine.

00:09:33.000 Therefore, a threat to the globalist cabal.

00:09:34.000 If Trump wins, it's got to be 1, 2, 3.

00:09:38.000 It's got to be Assange, Snowden, Ulbrecht.

00:09:43.000 1, 2, 3.

00:09:44.000 Pardons across the board.

00:09:45.000 Gabriel, one minute remaining.

00:09:46.000 What's the call to action here?

00:09:48.000 The call to action.

00:09:49.000 So we're asking people to contact their congresspeople.

00:09:51.000 There's a resolution, a bipartisan resolution with Paul Gosar, Thomas Massey, Rep, Jim McGovern, all leading this resolution.

00:10:00.000 It's resolution 934.

00:10:02.000 We're asking people to get in touch with their congresspeople, ask them to co-sponsor and support that resolution.

00:10:08.000 It's a House resolution in the Congress there.

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00:11:32.000 So Gabriel, what is it about the military-industrial complex?

00:11:35.000 There seems to be a fascination, an obsession with Julian that is unlike any other journalist exposing any other industry where they have an attachment to this case.

00:11:47.000 What is your take, Gabriel?

00:11:49.000 Well, I mean, Julian really took the mask off the military industrial complex and how they, you know, how they were part of a conspiracy with the legacy media to really sell people wars.

00:12:04.000 You know, populations, as Julian famously said, that people don't like wars and they have to be convinced.

00:12:11.000 They have to be convinced and lied to in order to support them.

00:12:16.000 And what WikiLeaks and Julian did was really, you know, rip the mask off that conspiracy between the military industrial complex, the government and the media, exposing them for what they are, this incredible machine that drives war, that drives conflict all around the world.

00:12:39.000 And he disrupted their business model in incredible fashion, like had ever been done before.

00:12:48.000 And so they see him as a threat to their power, as a threat to how they survive, how they make their money.

00:12:58.000 And so they're coming after him and they're coming after him in an incredible way, in a way that has an incredible amount of hubris and recklessness to the institutions of the United States, such as the Department of Justice and the CIA.

00:13:20.000 Those institutions totally weaponized against Julian, as well as the UK justice system, which is sort of the jailer in a sense, in this sense.

00:13:32.000 They're meting out the punishment to Julian, setting this example, showing that if you do this sort of thing, if you expose us, that we can just take away all your rights and lock you in a prison without a sentence,

00:13:47.000 without a charge in the country that you're in, that they can reach anywhere around the world and pick you up, doesn't matter how famous you are, doesn't matter what sort of profile you are, you have, and keep you in a jail indefinitely.

00:14:02.000 And it's just a massive flex, and it's an example to everyone out there who might think about exposing this system for what it is.

00:14:12.000 And that's really the point, is they want to try to demonstrate the ferocity the regime is willing to use against anyone that would dare tell the truth or spread the truth.

00:14:24.000 And are there other instances, Gabriel, about two minutes remaining, you could point to where other journalists did similar activity and they didn't meet the full force of the American justice system?

00:14:34.000 Yeah, well, I mean, you just have to look at the New York Times who published the exact same information that Julian is in prison for.

00:14:41.000 So you have the New York Times, the Washington Post, all publish the same information that Julian is in prison for and not receiving any.

00:14:51.000 Their publishers are fine.

00:14:53.000 They're probably sitting in their mansions sipping on martinis, warming their feet by their fireside.

00:15:02.000 So I think that really shows, that's another exposure really of how these media corporations, how legacy media works hand in glove with the government, with the military and industrial complex to sell us these wars that keep getting pushed on us.

00:15:21.000 So I think that's a real exposure in this case.

00:15:24.000 It's not just these institutions who are corrupted, but exposing the fact that these other media organizations haven't been pursued because they're not a threat to power.

00:15:35.000 Gabriel, thank you so much.

00:15:36.000 One more time, the call to action to our audience.

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00:15:44.000 We've got nine co-sponsors tonight.

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00:15:47.000 I know there's a lot of Congress people in Congress who want to support Julian, but they might need that extra push from their constituents.

00:15:54.000 So give them a call, go and see them, send them an email.

00:15:57.000 Very good.

00:15:58.000 Gabriel, thank you so much.

00:15:59.000 Thanks, John.

00:16:03.000 Jeff, welcome to the program.

00:16:04.000 Thank you.

00:16:05.000 Great to be with you, Charlie.

00:16:05.000 Jeff Webb, who is the CEO of the Human Events Media Group, which our audience would appreciate because Jack comes on the program a lot and he's got Human Events Daily.

00:16:12.000 So Jeff is also one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the country and is the man behind varsity brands.

00:16:20.000 And so I want to talk about this just from not in a political standpoint, the idea that the New York State government can fine you what they're finding Trump.

00:16:28.000 There was no victim.

00:16:30.000 There was nobody that was, you know, that was defrauded.

00:16:34.000 And then on top of that, the potential seizing of assets to post the bond.

00:16:37.000 Jeff, as a business guy, would you ever do business in New York?

00:16:40.000 Well, you'd have to really think about it.

00:16:42.000 I mean, if you had a choice right now, no, of course not.

00:16:44.000 I mean, because this is just the beginning.

00:16:47.000 Is this a precedent?

00:16:48.000 Are we going to be able to see this anytime somebody is on the political hit list?

00:16:53.000 Is the government going to file a lawsuit against you?

00:16:56.000 Are they going to take your documents when you borrow money?

00:16:59.000 Are they going to determine if you accurately described your collateral and then seize your assets, and especially at the level they're talking about, which it's just to, you know, it's making it difficult to appeal and it's all punitive.

00:17:15.000 It's really, it's scary, and it has incredible ramifications that people don't realize.

00:17:21.000 People, oh, this has happened to Trump, you know, but this could have serious implications.

00:17:26.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

00:17:27.000 Is there chatter in the business world about this, even from a non-political standpoint that you've been hearing?

00:17:32.000 You know, it's mostly just like, can you really believe this?

00:17:35.000 There's still not, you know, of course, you know, they better.

00:17:38.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:17:39.000 It depends which state you're in.

00:17:42.000 But you're right, they better because it is real.

00:17:45.000 Yeah, and so it also, to be in a country right now where you could be a former president, you could build a multi-billion dollar company and basically effectively have it taken away from you.

00:17:56.000 Right.

00:17:57.000 I mean, that at its core destroys the incentive structure of why even create business in the first place.

00:18:03.000 If you can't keep your stuff and pass it down to your kids, I mean, this is a fundamental economic truth.

00:18:10.000 Look, if this had been about the fact that Trump had not paid his taxes or if he really had inflated the value of his collateral, that would be something different.

00:18:20.000 It was fraudulent.

00:18:21.000 But it's not.

00:18:22.000 You know, at the end of the day, he put up, you know, like we all do.

00:18:26.000 If you're in business and you're building a business and you're borrowing money for capital to make things grow, you're going to say, here's the value of what I've got.

00:18:37.000 I'd like to borrow money against it.

00:18:39.000 At the end of the day, Charlie, I mean, it's really the responsibility of the banks that are loaning you the money.

00:18:45.000 And decide whether or not that collateral is accurate.

00:18:48.000 And obviously, the collateral is valuable because now the New York Attorney General says, I'm going to confiscate your stuff that you said isn't valuable.

00:18:55.000 And you know this in real estate, prices are very, very, they fluctuate based on markets and how badly you want the piece of property.

00:19:03.000 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right?

00:19:05.000 Well, and do you think with the type of money you're talking about, do you think the banks that he's borrowing money for are going to look at that and just go, ah, yeah, surely that's worth that's worth that much money?

00:19:14.000 No, they do do diligence.

00:19:16.000 Underwriting.

00:19:17.000 Of course, they do do diligence.

00:19:18.000 You can't buy a home without them doing a market analysis and having comps.

00:19:24.000 Yeah, compare it to other things that have sold.

00:19:26.000 Get the idea.

00:19:27.000 They usually give you 80% of the value and away you go.

00:19:31.000 So, you know, the problem here, I mean, what is that real estate worth?

00:19:35.000 Exactly what somebody will pay you for.

00:19:37.000 Well, that's exactly right.

00:19:38.000 That's what it's worth.

00:19:39.000 The real estate might be worth less now that New York is going down the gutter.

00:19:45.000 But for example, to own one acre, one acre in Miami Beach right now is, what, probably $25 million?

00:19:56.000 Unbelievable.

00:19:58.000 Try to buy a house on the water there. 0.62

00:20:00.000 Right, or have one acre in Sioux City, Iowa.

00:20:03.000 Right.

00:20:04.000 You could probably get it for $75,000.

00:20:06.000 Exactly.

00:20:07.000 So, but they're both an acre.

00:20:08.000 Value is on geography based on...

00:20:12.000 But hey, if it was on Sioux City, Iowa and they were on oil, then it's $75 million.

00:20:17.000 That's right.

00:20:18.000 Right?

00:20:18.000 So, but just from an entrepreneur standpoint, I mean, you've had great success and great exits and all that.

00:20:26.000 I just, it must, imagine building a business in this environment.

00:20:30.000 It would be so demoralizing.

00:20:31.000 Imagine the next entrepreneur in New York.

00:20:33.000 They're probably not in New York anymore.

00:20:34.000 They're probably in Tampa.

00:20:35.000 Yeah, they're looking for a place where they've got some protection.

00:20:38.000 They're looking for a state government where they have some protection.

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00:21:49.000 So Jeff, you've been talking for quite a while about the middle class, and you've really been ahead of this.

00:21:55.000 And for years, we've been talking about it, and it has been prophetic.

00:21:59.000 I really believe that.

00:22:01.000 About how the middle class is losing its purchasing power.

00:22:04.000 And we haven't dialogued for a little while.

00:22:06.000 Look at the last year and a half with just inflation alone, which is a tax and an erosion of wealth.

00:22:14.000 The middle class is ceasing to exist. 0.97

00:22:16.000 We basically have an oligarchy and a government-dependent class.

00:22:19.000 This idea of a well-heeled, well-capitalized, strong middle class is quickly evaporating in front of our eyes.

00:22:25.000 Well, that's the socialist idea, right?

00:22:27.000 That's the plan.

00:22:28.000 That's what the plan is.

00:22:29.000 Yeah, I mean, when I wrote my book about the middle class several years ago, American Restoration.

00:22:36.000 Thank you.

00:22:37.000 And 40% of working Americans were living paycheck to paycheck.

00:22:42.000 It's 60% now.

00:22:44.000 I mean, where does it end?

00:22:46.000 And there is no end in sight.

00:22:49.000 And I think, you know, that the whole comment about inflation being transitory several years ago was a joke.

00:22:57.000 I mean, when you look at the amount of money being pumped into the economy, there is no way that that inflation was going to stop.

00:23:04.000 So, yeah, I mean, it's cruel.

00:23:08.000 The middle class is feeling it in the most important ways in their life in their food, in their gasoline, in their housing, in the education of their children.

00:23:18.000 And the places that are really important, and it really hurts.

00:23:23.000 And again, no end in sight.

00:23:25.000 You can't have a country if you don't have a middle class. 0.96

00:23:27.000 You have something completely different.

00:23:29.000 What policies do you think can be best embraced to unshackle the middle class? 0.96

00:23:34.000 Well, I think that there has to be fiscal discipline, first of all.

00:23:37.000 And we don't, you know, let's be fair, we haven't seen that with either party.

00:23:41.000 That's right.

00:23:42.000 We haven't seen it.

00:23:43.000 And The amount of national debt that we have now, anyone, any young person right now, I mean, they don't even talk about it.

00:23:52.000 You've got to look up at the national debt and go, what's going to happen to this?

00:23:57.000 Well, somebody is going to pay for that.

00:24:00.000 Probably not people my age.

00:24:02.000 It's going to be young people, and it's going to be painful. 0.94

00:24:05.000 No matter how we do it, it's going to be painful.

00:24:08.000 So I think that, I think, number two, our whole energy policy, I think it drives everything.

00:24:13.000 It's going to drive the cost of food.

00:24:16.000 It's going to drive wages.

00:24:19.000 And to the extent that we have just completely pulled in our horns on energy, that we've allowed our competitors on the international scene to become richer and richer at our expense, and then to our middle class become poor, it's unforgivable.

00:24:39.000 And there's no logic whatsoever.

00:24:42.000 It seems as if it's intentional, that they want us to weaken.

00:24:47.000 A lot of these things look intentional, don't they?

00:24:49.000 Inflation, what's happening at the border looks intentional.

00:24:53.000 Our energy policy looks intentional.

00:24:56.000 I mean, people don't want to say it, but there's hardly any other explanation.

00:25:01.000 Yeah, so let's dive deeper into this idea of deficit spending.

00:25:06.000 We are borrowing $1 trillion every 100 years.

00:25:11.000 You have probably a lot of people coming.

00:25:13.000 Do you want to invest in stuff?

00:25:15.000 There are more asset bubbles than I've ever seen.

00:25:19.000 Would you agree with that right now?

00:25:20.000 We have more dollar bills than value.

00:25:22.000 Yes, I think you're 100% right.

00:25:25.000 And again, I go back, it's the sort of thing where there is no end in sight.

00:25:31.000 And then you look at the energy policy, that's inflationary as well.

00:25:35.000 You see what's starting to happen again now, right?

00:25:36.000 Gasoline is creeping up again.

00:25:39.000 I don't know if we can drain the federal strategic petroleum reserve again or not.

00:25:44.000 Not exactly what it was meant for, right?

00:25:46.000 Politics.

00:25:47.000 But, you know, all of these things are having an effect.

00:25:50.000 And I go back to what you said.

00:25:52.000 One wonders if it's somehow intentional.

00:25:54.000 Are we trying to bankrupt the middle class?

00:25:57.000 Yes, I believe we are.

00:25:59.000 And not to mention there's a thing called the Cloud Pivot strategy.

00:26:02.000 We've been talking about it a lot in our program, which was an academic theory in the 60s and 70s.

00:26:06.000 They were communists, and they said, they're American communists.

00:26:09.000 They said the way to destroy America is to have mass migration, build a permanent deep state bureaucracy that overconsumes everything, and then borrow so much money that you can't even fathom it.

00:26:19.000 Boom.

00:26:20.000 That's the plan.

00:26:21.000 Yeah.

00:26:21.000 One, two, three.

00:26:22.000 Whether that's the plan they're using or not, it's completely parallel with that.

00:26:26.000 That's what's happening.

00:26:27.000 And let's talk.

00:26:27.000 I mean, you talk about in your book, American Restoration, How to Unshackle the Great Middle Class.

00:26:31.000 There is a part on immigration, and we thought it was bad three years ago, four years ago.

00:26:36.000 When you and I started hanging out five or six years ago, we said this immigration thing's out of control. 1.00

00:26:41.000 I mean, it's a full-fledged takeover of the United States of America.

00:26:45.000 How can you not have millions of people coming in?

00:26:47.000 And we don't know who they are.

00:26:49.000 Who they are, where they're going, where they're going to end up, what they plan to do. 0.81

00:26:53.000 And look at the disparity and the males, females.

00:26:58.000 It's really, there's just nothing good about it.

00:27:02.000 You know, look, some of these people are probably well-intended.

00:27:05.000 They're looking for a better way of life for their family.

00:27:09.000 But we have to determine that.

00:27:11.000 We have to vet that.

00:27:13.000 No one, no other country in the world has a border like we do.

00:27:17.000 And it's unfathomable.

00:27:19.000 Yeah, the amount, we have 10 to 15,000 people a day coming across the southern border.

00:27:26.000 The book is American Restoration, How to Unshackle the Great Middle Class. 0.99

00:27:30.000 In addition, Jeff also is with Postmillennial and Human Events and the all-star team there.

00:27:37.000 And so talk a little about that, about 30 seconds, all the great work that's going to happen.

00:27:41.000 Events Media Group includes those two platforms, and we're thrilled with what's happening there.

00:27:47.000 Of course, Jack Bisobic, one of your buddies in online.

00:27:50.000 He's live right now.

00:27:52.000 Libby Emmons does an incredible job as well.

00:27:55.000 Barrett Wilson, I mean, Andy No, it's just a great team and so dedicated, breaking news, finding things first and that are important.

00:28:07.000 And we are definitely building something great there.

00:28:11.000 He is the author of a very important book, American Restoration, Unshackle the Great Middle Class. 1.00

00:28:16.000 And really, it is a challenging neoliberalism. 0.90

00:28:19.000 And neoliberalism is unlimited mass migration, trade, bringing in as much crap into your country that you don't need. 0.69

00:28:27.000 And then finally, reckless foreign wars. 0.96

00:28:30.000 That's right.

00:28:31.000 That's right.

00:28:32.000 And I think we're seeing that now.

00:28:35.000 And the country is now becoming awakened to the fact that we have had, I mentioned this in my book.

00:28:41.000 I used to be, you know, kind of, I was a real hawk on foreign policy, driving with my young son.

00:28:47.000 He's probably 14 at the time, a lot smarter than his father, by the way.

00:28:51.000 And he's already kind of politically involved or engaged.

00:28:55.000 And he says, you know, Dad, he said, you know, our country has been at war ever since I've been kind of politically conscious.

00:29:04.000 It's like we have a war somewhere.

00:29:06.000 He said, I don't know why.

00:29:07.000 I mean, can you imagine right now looking back and having lost a son or a daughter or a brother or a friend in Afghanistan and say, why did that happen?

00:29:20.000 And I just think that, you know, again, how our government can engage in whether it's actual physical military intervention, whether we're supplying arms, whatever we're doing without taking it to the American people and having an endgame.

00:29:40.000 What does success look like?

00:29:42.000 It's a basic business tenor.

00:29:45.000 Success looks like endless war.

00:29:47.000 They want endless conflict.

00:29:49.000 Or it's something that's going to be impossible to achieve.

00:29:53.000 Well, like the liberation of Ukraine, including Crimea, which is pathologically insane.

00:29:59.000 I think it's going to, it's not in the cards.

00:30:01.000 I mean, it's, look, do we all wish that Russia had not invaded Ukraine? 0.83

00:30:10.000 Of course.

00:30:10.000 It was wrong.

00:30:11.000 It was totally wrong.

00:30:12.000 That's correct.

00:30:13.000 But that's a very complicated part of the world.

00:30:17.000 But we lied to Russia for years, too.

00:30:19.000 We said that NATO wasn't going to move east, and we've antagonized them.

00:30:24.000 It doesn't justify Putin doing that.

00:30:25.000 I agree, it doesn't.

00:30:26.000 But we have not been, we pushed Ukraine into this situation. 0.73

00:30:32.000 Well, when you look at foreign affairs and you look at any type of conflict, it's like what you have to look at in sports or in business.

00:30:39.000 You look at your opponent.

00:30:40.000 What's important to them?

00:30:42.000 You try to get in their head.

00:30:45.000 I heard RFK Jr. the other day point out that one in seven Russians died during World War II.

00:30:52.000 So they're a little bit paranoid of Western Europe, you know.

00:30:57.000 And again, they've been fighting back and forth in that area for a thousand years.

00:31:03.000 And I think that we should be spending, the war is terrible.

00:31:07.000 What's happened is terrible.

00:31:09.000 But I don't think the Russians are leaving.

00:31:12.000 And it's a very, they have a powerful military.

00:31:15.000 We should be looking at trying to be the brokers of peace.

00:31:19.000 We should be looking at what, how can we make this as fair as possible?

00:31:25.000 How can we gain as much of Ukraine as we can? 0.90

00:31:28.000 But are we just going to keep having hundreds of thousands of young people die with no end in sight, Charlie?

00:31:35.000 Yeah, it's a moral tragedy.

00:31:37.000 The American government sent Boris Johnson and Tony Blinken to blow up a potential peace deal.

00:31:42.000 We were involved in obliterating a potential peace deal.

00:31:46.000 So the book is American Restoration.

00:31:47.000 A lot of great things happen with Human Events Media, you know, post-millennial.

00:31:51.000 Anything else on your mind, Jeff, that you want to share with the audience?

00:31:53.000 Things that you want to make sure you communicate to us?

00:31:55.000 Well, I think this is the, you know, how many times have we heard this is the most important election in your lifetime?

00:32:03.000 This is the whole one.

00:32:04.000 This is a very important election.

00:32:06.000 And I think you only have to look at the border to see that.

00:32:09.000 I mean, that's back to the end game.

00:32:13.000 What is going to be the long-term, what are the long-term ramifications of this incredible amount of just unvetted immigration? 0.58

00:32:24.000 We don't know.

00:32:25.000 What's it going to do to the workforce?

00:32:27.000 What's it going to do for crime?

00:32:29.000 What is going to happen?

00:32:30.000 And I think that there are a lot of questions that need to be answered, and I think the election is the place to do it.

00:32:37.000 Jeff, you've been a great friend for a while.

00:32:39.000 It is American Restoration, Unshackle the Great Middle Class. 1.00

00:32:41.000 We're meeting later to how we're going to take over the world.

00:32:45.000 And I just want to just brag.

00:32:46.000 Jeff is a phenomenal entrepreneur, really smart businessmind.

00:32:50.000 We're going to have Jeff on more and more, you know, time willing, you know, this election season.

00:32:58.000 And it's not just about the election.

00:33:00.000 This is a question of just very basic principles: do you want a government that represents you?

00:33:04.000 Do you want an oligarchy or do you want some form of a people-centered government?

00:33:08.000 And the book is great.

00:33:09.000 It's How to Unshackle the Great Middle Class. 0.99

00:33:11.000 It is not a new book, but it's timeless, I have to say.

00:33:14.000 It is actually more applicable now than even at PubDate.

00:33:17.000 Who would have known?

00:33:19.000 Jeff, thank you so much.

00:33:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:21.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:24.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:33:28.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 27, 2024

The Assange Must Be Pardoned

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