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00:02:10.000So there was a judgment handed down today in the UK courts, which really gives Julian another chance, you know, another, lives to fight another day, essentially.
00:02:22.000What it said is it's given the U.S. prosecutors three weeks to issue what the court is asking for, assurances.
00:02:33.000And those are assurances that Julian will not receive the death penalty for his work as a journalist if he's extradited to the United States.
00:02:42.000Also, that he is entitled to First Amendment protections if he is to be extradited, and that his freedom of expression rights will also be protected.
00:02:55.000So, really, what the court has done is give the U.S. prosecutors here, the Biden administration, a chance to fix up their case with these diplomatic assurances.
00:03:10.000And, you know, what's really bizarre about it is that the court, the UK courts, have actually acknowledged that the Biden administration and its Department of Justice was potentially pursuing a death sentence for the work that Julian did publishing these leaks, doing journalism, doing what every other publisher around the world does every day, taking this classified secret material and giving it to the public.
00:03:38.000So I think the court has seen how outrageous this prosecution is, but also given the chance, given a chance to the Biden administration to correct that so that they could still potentially extradite Julian in three weeks' time.
00:03:55.000So I want to just kind of get to the Wall Street Journal also said this last week, quote, that the U.S. Department of Justice is considering whether to allow Julian Assange to plead guilty to a reduced charge of mishandling classified information.
00:04:05.000According to people familiar with the matter, which could eventually result in his release from British jail, the Wall Street Journal says it is to end a 14-year legal drama.
00:04:16.000Well, Julian's lawyers, Julian's U.S. lawyers, Barry Pollock, came out at the time and said he hasn't had any contact with the Department of Justice.
00:04:26.000There's been no deal offered to Julian and that the DOJ, they're actually doing the opposite.
00:04:32.000They're continuing to pursue the extradition of Julian Assange to the United States.
00:04:39.000So I think what I make of it is that this has become a real political hot potato for the Biden administration.
00:04:47.000The last thing they want during election season is just rocking up in the Eastern District of Virginia in chains.
00:04:57.000Another massive First Amendment case in the United States would not help the Biden administration during election year.
00:05:05.000And I think they're putting out these sort of, they're almost front running the UK courts by putting out this sort of interest in a plea deal or a resolution, pushing it back on Julian in a sense.
00:05:23.000But I think what's really important about this case is that, you know, it's been going on.
00:05:28.000Julian will be in jail for now five years on the 11th of April.
00:05:36.000He's never been charged in the United Kingdom with any offense.
00:05:41.000So what we're seeing here is this sort of washing, you know, using the UK legal system to wash a prosecution that really turns the First Amendment into a very much a walled garden in that sense that, you know, it's okay.
00:06:00.000You can have your First Amendment rights, but you cannot, you know, report on national security.
00:06:05.000You know, areas of investigative journalism are very limited.
00:06:09.000And they're using the UK to really wash that and so that they don't have the domestic blowback if they were doing it in the United States to a U.S. journalist.
00:06:20.000So I know that you've done this so many times, Gabriel, and you did this prior on the program.
00:06:26.000I think it is worth repeating in about three to five minutes the backstory here because it's just been so long.
00:06:33.000We have some younger viewers too that were literally five or six years old when this saga started.
00:06:38.000What has the American government accused Assange of?
00:06:42.000And do you think politics are at play here regarding WikiLeaks and certain families that might have been displaced from power?
00:06:49.000So just walk us through kind of a quick backstory.
00:06:52.000Well, Julian, Julian founded WikiLeaks in 2006.
00:06:57.000Wikileaks was a organization that really disrupted mainstream media.
00:07:06.000They took a lot of, they sort of decentralized leaking in a sense.
00:07:11.000They took the leaks away from mainstream media and sort of published them for everyone so that there could be more transparency and more reporting on leaked information.
00:07:24.000And they really came to prominence in 2010, 2011, when they published the leaks that were leaked by Chelsea Manning.
00:07:31.000And those were related to the Afghanistan war logs, you know, undocumented deaths in Afghanistan, the now famous helicopter gunship video in Iraq of a helicopter gunship mowing down to Reuters journalists, as well as some civilians, diplomatic cables from around the world.
00:07:53.000And it was really those publications that really upset the, you know, the military industrial complex as well as the intelligence organizations.
00:08:03.000And that's when Julian, the pursuit of Julian, really began.
00:08:10.000And he's been detained one way or another ever since.
00:08:15.000Now, in 2016, WikiLeaks famously published the Clinton emails, the Podesta emails.
00:08:22.000And those were, you know, at the time, you know, it was in the lead up to the 2016 election and they were seen.
00:08:31.000They really showed the corruption inside the DNC, you know, how the Clinton campaign conspired with the DNC to take the Democratic nomination from Bernie Sanders.
00:08:42.000A lot of people say, Charlie, do you think that Julian Assange should be pardoned?
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00:11:32.000So Gabriel, what is it about the military-industrial complex?
00:11:35.000There seems to be a fascination, an obsession with Julian that is unlike any other journalist exposing any other industry where they have an attachment to this case.
00:11:49.000Well, I mean, Julian really took the mask off the military industrial complex and how they, you know, how they were part of a conspiracy with the legacy media to really sell people wars.
00:12:04.000You know, populations, as Julian famously said, that people don't like wars and they have to be convinced.
00:12:11.000They have to be convinced and lied to in order to support them.
00:12:16.000And what WikiLeaks and Julian did was really, you know, rip the mask off that conspiracy between the military industrial complex, the government and the media, exposing them for what they are, this incredible machine that drives war, that drives conflict all around the world.
00:12:39.000And he disrupted their business model in incredible fashion, like had ever been done before.
00:12:48.000And so they see him as a threat to their power, as a threat to how they survive, how they make their money.
00:12:58.000And so they're coming after him and they're coming after him in an incredible way, in a way that has an incredible amount of hubris and recklessness to the institutions of the United States, such as the Department of Justice and the CIA.
00:13:20.000Those institutions totally weaponized against Julian, as well as the UK justice system, which is sort of the jailer in a sense, in this sense.
00:13:32.000They're meting out the punishment to Julian, setting this example, showing that if you do this sort of thing, if you expose us, that we can just take away all your rights and lock you in a prison without a sentence,
00:13:47.000without a charge in the country that you're in, that they can reach anywhere around the world and pick you up, doesn't matter how famous you are, doesn't matter what sort of profile you are, you have, and keep you in a jail indefinitely.
00:14:02.000And it's just a massive flex, and it's an example to everyone out there who might think about exposing this system for what it is.
00:14:12.000And that's really the point, is they want to try to demonstrate the ferocity the regime is willing to use against anyone that would dare tell the truth or spread the truth.
00:14:24.000And are there other instances, Gabriel, about two minutes remaining, you could point to where other journalists did similar activity and they didn't meet the full force of the American justice system?
00:14:34.000Yeah, well, I mean, you just have to look at the New York Times who published the exact same information that Julian is in prison for.
00:14:41.000So you have the New York Times, the Washington Post, all publish the same information that Julian is in prison for and not receiving any.
00:14:53.000They're probably sitting in their mansions sipping on martinis, warming their feet by their fireside.
00:15:02.000So I think that really shows, that's another exposure really of how these media corporations, how legacy media works hand in glove with the government, with the military and industrial complex to sell us these wars that keep getting pushed on us.
00:15:21.000So I think that's a real exposure in this case.
00:15:24.000It's not just these institutions who are corrupted, but exposing the fact that these other media organizations haven't been pursued because they're not a threat to power.
00:15:47.000I know there's a lot of Congress people in Congress who want to support Julian, but they might need that extra push from their constituents.
00:15:54.000So give them a call, go and see them, send them an email.
00:16:05.000Jeff Webb, who is the CEO of the Human Events Media Group, which our audience would appreciate because Jack comes on the program a lot and he's got Human Events Daily.
00:16:12.000So Jeff is also one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the country and is the man behind varsity brands.
00:16:20.000And so I want to talk about this just from not in a political standpoint, the idea that the New York State government can fine you what they're finding Trump.
00:16:48.000Are we going to be able to see this anytime somebody is on the political hit list?
00:16:53.000Is the government going to file a lawsuit against you?
00:16:56.000Are they going to take your documents when you borrow money?
00:16:59.000Are they going to determine if you accurately described your collateral and then seize your assets, and especially at the level they're talking about, which it's just to, you know, it's making it difficult to appeal and it's all punitive.
00:17:15.000It's really, it's scary, and it has incredible ramifications that people don't realize.
00:17:21.000People, oh, this has happened to Trump, you know, but this could have serious implications.
00:17:42.000But you're right, they better because it is real.
00:17:45.000Yeah, and so it also, to be in a country right now where you could be a former president, you could build a multi-billion dollar company and basically effectively have it taken away from you.
00:17:57.000I mean, that at its core destroys the incentive structure of why even create business in the first place.
00:18:03.000If you can't keep your stuff and pass it down to your kids, I mean, this is a fundamental economic truth.
00:18:10.000Look, if this had been about the fact that Trump had not paid his taxes or if he really had inflated the value of his collateral, that would be something different.
00:18:22.000You know, at the end of the day, he put up, you know, like we all do.
00:18:26.000If you're in business and you're building a business and you're borrowing money for capital to make things grow, you're going to say, here's the value of what I've got.
00:18:39.000At the end of the day, Charlie, I mean, it's really the responsibility of the banks that are loaning you the money.
00:18:45.000And decide whether or not that collateral is accurate.
00:18:48.000And obviously, the collateral is valuable because now the New York Attorney General says, I'm going to confiscate your stuff that you said isn't valuable.
00:18:55.000And you know this in real estate, prices are very, very, they fluctuate based on markets and how badly you want the piece of property.
00:19:03.000Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right?
00:19:05.000Well, and do you think with the type of money you're talking about, do you think the banks that he's borrowing money for are going to look at that and just go, ah, yeah, surely that's worth that's worth that much money?
00:20:35.000Yeah, they're looking for a place where they've got some protection.
00:20:38.000They're looking for a state government where they have some protection.
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00:23:08.000The middle class is feeling it in the most important ways in their life in their food, in their gasoline, in their housing, in the education of their children.
00:23:18.000And the places that are really important, and it really hurts.
00:24:19.000And to the extent that we have just completely pulled in our horns on energy, that we've allowed our competitors on the international scene to become richer and richer at our expense, and then to our middle class become poor, it's unforgivable.
00:25:59.000And not to mention there's a thing called the Cloud Pivot strategy.
00:26:02.000We've been talking about it a lot in our program, which was an academic theory in the 60s and 70s.
00:26:06.000They were communists, and they said, they're American communists.
00:26:09.000They said the way to destroy America is to have mass migration, build a permanent deep state bureaucracy that overconsumes everything, and then borrow so much money that you can't even fathom it.
00:29:07.000I mean, can you imagine right now looking back and having lost a son or a daughter or a brother or a friend in Afghanistan and say, why did that happen?
00:29:20.000And I just think that, you know, again, how our government can engage in whether it's actual physical military intervention, whether we're supplying arms, whatever we're doing without taking it to the American people and having an endgame.