The Charlie Kirk Show - The ATF Report + RINO Amnesty For Haitians

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00:01:17.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:19.000 It's April 16th, the day after tax day.

00:01:23.000 And we are here at the Y Refi Studio in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:01:27.000 And we had a big, big piece of news get revealed yesterday.

00:01:33.000 And you guys might remember there was much to do about a Daily Mail headline a few weeks back that the bullet didn't match.

00:01:40.000 I think was the headline.

00:01:41.000 Which was a complete piece of media malpractice.

00:01:44.000 And we had Jay Towns on, who's a career prosecutor, has read, I guess, dozens, hundreds, maybe even ATF reports.

00:01:52.000 And he's back, and we're going to start the show with him because the ATF report has been made public now, and we want his help to kind of unpack what's in there.

00:02:02.000 Jay, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:04.000 It's good to see you.

00:02:05.000 Good to be back with both of you.

00:02:06.000 So you are a career prosecutor, former U.S. attorney.

00:02:11.000 You're a Contributor for Newsmax, a legal contributor there.

00:02:15.000 So you have a great resume, you have a great background in this.

00:02:19.000 Tell us what new evidence do we now know about because of this ATF report?

00:02:26.000 Yeah, and as we suspected the last time we spoke, Andrew, that the ATF report and the Daily Mail headline were not going to even remotely match.

00:02:37.000 And so, you know, and then the legacy media and the tinfoil hat crowd took that to mean that it is inconclusive whether or not the fragmented bullet found in Charlie Kirk's body.

00:02:50.000 Was fired from the 30-odd six fired at the scene.

00:02:53.000 They took that to mean that it did not match.

00:02:56.000 In my career as a violent crimes prosecutor and as a U.S. attorney, I sat on the ATF governance board.

00:03:01.000 I've read hundreds and hundreds of these ATF reports.

00:03:05.000 Here's the new evidence.

00:03:06.000 In addition to the fact that, as we discussed and as I predicted, that this was a.30 caliber class bullet that was found in Charlie Kirk.

00:03:16.000 Why does that matter?

00:03:17.000 Because a 30-odd six was found at the scene, and that 30-odd six has Tyler Robinson's DNA all over it.

00:03:25.000 But why else does it matter?

00:03:26.000 Well, the new evidence is that the 30-odd six was operable.

00:03:30.000 So we know that it could be fired and that there was a fired cartridge.

00:03:36.000 It was a Remington 30-odd six.

00:03:38.000 What's interesting about that is all of the fired and unfired cartridges were all Remington.

00:03:45.000 And so, you know, there are bunter marks on different batches.

00:03:48.000 A bunter mark is, I expect, the next batch of evidence to be that the bunter marks will all match on those bullets, meaning they came from the same box, they came from the same.

00:03:58.000 Crate, the pallet of those bullets.

00:04:01.000 And those are marks put on the bullets by the manufacturer, not by the tool marking from the firearm.

00:04:07.000 The final piece is that we know that the fired or the expelled shell casing, right, the one that we believe the bullet came from, we know that that shell casing was fired by that gun because of the tool marks that a gun makes when it fires a shell.

00:04:25.000 It makes an imprint on the shell that is unique to that weapon.

00:04:29.000 And so you fire a bunch of other shells with that weapon, and if it matches the expelled shell or the fired casing, then you know that that shell casing was fired by that weapon.

00:04:43.000 So, look, it is beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:04:46.000 It is to me beyond a mathematical certainty, which is way beyond the standard of a reasonable doubt, that that weapon was the one used to kill Charlie Kirk, and that the DNA all over that weapon, all over the shell casings, And whether they were spent or not, the towel itself that was all found in, the CCTV showing him egressing through that same area, right?

00:05:11.000 All of that leads to Tyler Robinson.

00:05:14.000 And again, the tinfoil hat crowd, they must be just unraveling this morning because the tinfoil wasn't working this time, apparently.

00:05:24.000 So just to kind of put a finer point on this, This, you came on the show last time, Jay, and you said the dog that didn't bark in that defense motion, which led to all of those crazy headlines, was the fact that the defense did not reference the caliber of the round in question.

00:05:43.000 And you said, Correct.

00:05:45.000 That to me is a dead tell that this was a.30 caliber round, which was everybody on all the naysayers are saying that this couldn't have been a 30 odd six.

00:05:56.000 You're saying this report clearly says.

00:06:00.000 That was a 30 caliber round, which is what a 30 odd six would be.

00:06:05.000 100%.

00:06:06.000 And I would also say that the dog that didn't bite, what we have seen become public is that the defense and the state had motions in December and January, all referencing the 30 caliber class round that was taken at autopsy.

00:06:22.000 And it references the September of 2025 ATF report, where it talks about all of the evidence that I just mentioned to include, and especially the 30 caliber round.

00:06:33.000 So we were, I mean, look, saying result of comparison was inconclusive.

00:06:38.000 The other thing they didn't say was that in that same paragraph, quote, could not be identified or excluded from the 30 yacht six.

00:06:46.000 They left that out too and let the media sow the doubt that they so desperately need.

00:06:54.000 But once we see the report and experts testify about the report, there really is no doubt that was the weapon that was fired to kill Charlie Kirk.

00:07:04.000 Blake.

00:07:05.000 So it is interesting to me that we got this because we got a defense motion back in December.

00:07:11.000 And I guess it's a long motion, but if you've had a chance to look at it, the defense seems to be making requests about their right to examine that, like be present while they're examining the bullet or something like that.

00:07:27.000 Have you gotten a chance to read that?

00:07:29.000 Can you describe what they're looking for in this motion?

00:07:31.000 Yeah.

00:07:31.000 So think about this in terms of any evidence, right?

00:07:34.000 So when we test evidence, we lose evidence.

00:07:37.000 Whether it's DNA, whether it's fingerprints, or in this case, we're talking about virtual comparison microscopy, where you actually are taking.

00:07:46.000 Remember, you have a bullet that has been mushroomed, right?

00:07:49.000 And fragmented.

00:07:50.000 They want to pull that mushroom back up so they can look underneath it to see if they can see striations that would match the barreling on that 30 out of 6.

00:07:59.000 Well, it's possible that when they pull it up, it snaps, breaks, and the evidence then there's less of it.

00:08:08.000 At that point, and that is their objection to it.

00:08:11.000 My personal opinion, we don't need to do the VCM testing at this point.

00:08:15.000 I mean, there's just no doubt that that was the weapon that fired the round that killed Charlie Kirk.

00:08:21.000 Now, if you, I mean, you can go happy to glad all day in evidence, but that's essentially what that motion was about.

00:08:29.000 They also mentioned that they thought that there would be exculpatory evidence that they could come up with.

00:08:34.000 I'm trying to find it, I don't know what it would be.

00:08:37.000 You know, there's not an expert in the world.

00:08:40.000 That is credible, that would testify that this wasn't a.30 caliber class round because all you do is measure the diameter of what is a very intact diameter of the base of that round that was found at Charlie, right?

00:08:55.000 So that's easy.

00:08:55.000 It's not a.22 caliber class that came from a.223 or an M16, for instance, a.22 rifle.

00:09:02.000 And so it was a.30 caliber class, 30 yacht six, DNA all over it.

00:09:07.000 There's just too many straight lines that lead to Tyler Robinson.

00:09:10.000 And we haven't even started talking about all the admissions that he has made.

00:09:14.000 In writing to friends and to his lover, Twiggs.

00:09:18.000 Jay, your level of expertise on this stuff and the ATF reports specifically are so important right now.

00:09:25.000 So I'm just going to read a few lines from this.

00:09:29.000 Fox article that they came out and they're now reporting on this.

00:09:33.000 So they said that the firearms, alcohol, tobacco, firearms, explosives that could not conclusively match a bullet fragment to the suspected murder weapon, but confirmed a match with the spent casing.

00:09:47.000 Okay, so the bullet gets destroyed.

00:09:51.000 It makes sense that it's so badly damaged that there might be limitations on what you can do with those fragments, but they can confirm it's a 30 cal and they can confirm a match with the spent casing.

00:10:03.000 In your opinion, your legal opinion, trying cases like this, how important is the spent casing?

00:10:08.000 Because a lot's been made about the jacket of the bullet, the lead, or whatever.

00:10:13.000 How important is that casing?

00:10:14.000 Well, both of those pieces of evidence are devastating to Tyler Robinson.

00:10:18.000 When the ATF is the absolute best in the world at firearm and tool mark expert reports, firearms and tool mark expert reports.

00:10:27.000 And what they look for as it relates to the round is the caliber class of the round and the striations, the rifling characteristics that may or may not exist.

00:10:35.000 On that round at the time that it's recovered.

00:10:37.000 They don't exist as of yet, unless they can do the virtual comparison microscopy.

00:10:42.000 They don't exist yet on that round.

00:10:44.000 So, okay, so we know the class of the bullet.

00:10:46.000 Well, what about the shell casing?

00:10:47.000 Do we have it?

00:10:48.000 Yes, we do.

00:10:49.000 Okay, well, when that weapon fires that round, it impacts with the shell casing and it creates tool marks on the base of that shell casing.

00:11:00.000 That was matched to this rifle.

00:11:02.000 So we know that that shell casing.

00:11:06.000 The bullet that was in it was fired by that rifle, and we know that that rifle was operable.

00:11:11.000 All of that is incredibly important if you're going to suggest or the defense is going to be that it was a different weapon, right?

00:11:19.000 Or it was a different type of weapon, a.22 caliber class, you know, an M16 instead of a.30 yacht 6 Mauser.

00:11:27.000 So, ATF again, and don't forget, before people start now shifting their tinfoil hats and twisting their mustache from, well, maybe it was that rifle, but You know, the ATF is they've somehow corrupted the evidence.

00:11:41.000 There is a chain of custody from the medical examiner to the autopsy to local law enforcement to the ATF and all the way back.

00:11:50.000 So, all of this has been photographed from the very beginning to the very end under a microscope.

00:11:56.000 And so, there's nobody that's going to be able to come in and say, Well, that's not the round they pulled from his body, it was something else.

00:12:03.000 Again, evidence matters, the rules of evidence matter.

00:12:07.000 The way we conduct ourselves in our criminal justice system.

00:12:10.000 Is incredibly important and it is hard to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:12:14.000 And I've done it over a hundred times.

00:12:16.000 I've prosecuted well over 10,000 defendants, most of them to please.

00:12:19.000 And it's an incredibly difficult standard.

00:12:22.000 And so you can't have those little lapses in evidence.

00:12:25.000 That's why the ATF is so reliable.

00:12:27.000 They are the best in the business.

00:12:29.000 And this evidence, this report, which the defense counsel knew in September, I'm guaranteeing, at least by November of last year, is devastating to Tyler Robinson.

00:12:38.000 Jay, I want to ask about another piece of evidence that came out.

00:12:42.000 About a week ago, we got sort of an itemized list of all of the evidence they found when they were searching Tyler Robinson's home.

00:12:51.000 Among other things, FBI agents found a handwritten letter that he gave to Lance Twiggs, the person he was in that relationship with.

00:13:00.000 Said, among other things, Luna, which is what he called him, if you are reading this per my text, I am sorry.

00:13:06.000 I left the house this morning on a mission and sent an auto text.

00:13:10.000 I am likely dead or facing a lengthy prison sentence.

00:13:13.000 I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk.

00:13:16.000 And I took it.

00:13:17.000 I don't know if I will or have succeeded, but I hoped to make it home to you.

00:13:22.000 It goes on like this for a while, and I love you always, Tyler.

00:13:27.000 I guess this seems like a smoking gun.

00:13:31.000 What possibly could the defense do in the face of something like this?

00:13:36.000 As a prosecutor, have you seen defense teams try to get out of something like this?

00:13:41.000 Well, I mean, let's presume that they're going to attack that Tyler Robinson wrote that note at all.

00:13:49.000 But again, the evidence against Tyler Robinson is so overwhelming that allowing the Daily Mail.

00:13:59.000 Or some of these bloggers online with podcasts to go ahead and try to sow doubt about the weapon or about some other person being involved.

00:14:10.000 You know, that is really the best defense, that and delay.

00:14:15.000 Because the actual physical evidence, the scientific evidence, the forensic evidence, the investigative evidence is overwhelming against Tyler Robinson.

00:14:23.000 I don't know what's on that list.

00:14:25.000 If the Dremel, you know, remember there's little markings, engravings on the actual.

00:14:30.000 Shell casings.

00:14:31.000 I don't know if the Dremel was found, but let's just say that it was.

00:14:34.000 I bet you that the next time you have me on your show, there will be DNA, Tyler Robinson's DNA, found on that Dremel tool that carved whatever those messages were into the shell casings.

00:14:51.000 I don't know if they found a Dremel or not, but if they did, that's just more, you know, in the planning that went into this and the effort and the time that it took, the diabolical nature of Tyler Robinson.

00:15:04.000 That's all coming out.

00:15:06.000 Folks, he did it.

00:15:08.000 That's it.

00:15:09.000 That's the ballgame.

00:15:10.000 And I say that as a professional prosecutor for 30 years.

00:15:13.000 Jay, you know, I think about you said the best defense that they have is either to delay, which is what they did with that defense motion, which led to the whole, you know, that's what they were asking for, which led to the whole Daily Mail debacle.

00:15:27.000 And so I guess my question is or they're going to point to somebody else being involved, which, you know, there is evidence that.

00:15:37.000 You know, people seem to know in advance that Charlie was going to, that there was going to be an attack on his life that day.

00:15:43.000 There seems to be ample evidence of that.

00:15:46.000 So apparently, there's still open investigations on those fronts.

00:15:51.000 What would that do if they did find somebody else had advanced knowledge and didn't inform the police or maybe tried to radicalize him?

00:15:59.000 Would that be a helpful thing for the defense?

00:16:03.000 Is that, I just want to know what that means in the trial.

00:16:06.000 Yeah.

00:16:07.000 I mean, it wouldn't be helpful for the defense.

00:16:09.000 Remember, there's a very big difference.

00:16:10.000 Between I knew and said nothing and I somehow engaged in acts in furtherance of the murder, right?

00:16:19.000 Even if you gave somebody a ride or dropped them off or helped them hide something, you know, that would all be part of what would be legally a conspiracy at that point.

00:16:28.000 So those two things are very different and is very responsible of the Bureau and the ATF to be tracking that evidence down in the state of Utah.

00:16:37.000 But I don't know that it matters much for Tyler Robinson if.

00:16:41.000 You know, there's 200 more people involved as far as his defense goes.

00:16:47.000 It matters to us, it matters to Erica, it matters to America.

00:16:51.000 But Tyler Robinson's fate, I think, was sealed the moment, well, certainly the moment he pulled the trigger.

00:16:57.000 But the moment that the FBI and the ATF engaged and started doing their job, that's when Tyler Robinson's fate was sealed because those are the best in the world.

00:17:06.000 Jay, last question, 10 seconds here, five seconds really.

00:17:09.000 Do you think he's going to plead?

00:17:10.000 Is that your prediction?

00:17:12.000 No, I think that they're going to seek the death penalty, and there's no plea to a death penalty case.

00:17:16.000 So he's going to have to suffer through a trial and see if a jury gives him death. 0.85

00:17:20.000 He deserves it. 0.99

00:17:21.000 Jay Town, that was excellent.

00:17:22.000 Thank you, sir.

00:17:23.000 Talk to you soon.

00:17:24.000 Thank you.

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00:18:31.000 All right, so I want to go through this.

00:18:33.000 This is something near and dear to both Blake and I.

00:18:36.000 And it was a story we were planning on getting to earlier in the week, but the DOJ has fired, I believe, four prosecutors, four lawyers in the DOJ that were weaponizing the FACE Act to go after pro lifers.

00:18:50.000 And the details of this story are truly remarkable because it's so extraordinary.

00:18:57.000 And it just shows, again, as we kind of make this case to you week in and week out.

00:19:03.000 Like, it's not worth blackpilling.

00:19:05.000 It's not worth dooming on some of the stuff you'd maybe don't like, or maybe there's a lack of enthusiasm in the base.

00:19:11.000 There's so much good stuff happening every single day that if you would imagine comparing and contrasting that to what would our country be like if Kamala Harris was president, that you need to be aware of these things because it's critically important that you understand the good things that are happening and then maybe don't get the headlines, okay?

00:19:29.000 So we have, they're just, it's an 800 plus page report that they released.

00:19:33.000 Todd Blanchard.

00:19:34.000 And what they're showing is things like, There's the National Abortion Federation.

00:19:38.000 They basically had the DOJ on speed dial.

00:19:43.000 The DOJ was their personal law firm.

00:19:45.000 We have an email where a DOJ prosecutor, one of the fired ones, Sanjay Patel, he referred to the National Abortion Federation's Michelle Davidson as a quote, MVP because what Davidson would do is send in pro life activists saying, hey, we don't like these activists.

00:20:03.000 You guys should prosecute them.

00:20:04.000 And it says it quote, which usually result in an investigation prosecution.

00:20:08.000 Can we just.

00:20:09.000 Pause for a second here.

00:20:10.000 So, the Biden DOJ basically outsourced investigatory power and ability authority to the National Abortion Federation, an organization that all it does is push abortions, the killing of babies.

00:20:27.000 Innocent, unborn children were getting butchered by this organization.

00:20:31.000 That's what they promote.

00:20:33.000 And they had a direct line into the Biden DOJ to then go after pro lifers, complete with a dossier on these people.

00:20:41.000 So, yeah.

00:20:42.000 We have one.

00:20:43.000 I just said it to you guys.

00:20:44.000 They're literally putting these like dossiers together, shows a person's face, shows a close up, has their description, physical appearance, spouse, family, close associates.

00:20:44.000 Throw it up.

00:20:55.000 These are put together by a separate actor, the National Abortion Federation, and shipped to the DOJ.

00:21:01.000 Hey, here's this person.

00:21:04.000 Please go after them.

00:21:05.000 And so the FACE Act was weaponized.

00:21:05.000 Yeah.

00:21:09.000 What does the FACE Act stand for?

00:21:10.000 I didn't look.

00:21:11.000 Freedom of access to clinic entrances, I think.

00:21:13.000 And it basically is the same bill they actually used to go after.

00:21:17.000 Don Lamont, because the left wanted to go after people who protested abortion clinics.

00:21:21.000 And so the right sort of, as their pound of flesh, took out also protesting at churches.

00:21:28.000 So this was, I mean, you look at this dossier, by the way, this is about the same thing that these militant far left groups do to our citizen journalists, by the way, that go out there so that when these activists are on the streets in Minneapolis or whatever, they can identify Savannah Hernandez or whoever, Cam Higbee, Nick Sortor.

00:21:47.000 So this is what these militant left groups do.

00:21:50.000 Is they create a dossier so that you can attack them and then in this case actually wield state power with prosecution.

00:21:57.000 So they would actually, we have a jury questionnaire, by the way, in this report that the DOJ put together for one of the FACE Act cases involving pro life defendants Calvin Zastro, Chester Gallagher, Heather Edoni, Joel Curry, Justin Phillips, Eva Edel, and Eva Zastro.

00:22:14.000 So those are the good guys.

00:22:15.000 Those names I just named, those were pro lifers that were getting prosecuted by the DOJ over apparent FACE Act violations, which was probably a hoax.

00:22:24.000 And the jurors were asked if they get their news from Daily Wire, Matt Walsh, and Daily Signal.

00:22:32.000 So, these were the groups that were aggressively reporting on the weaponization of the FACE Act.

00:22:41.000 This is shocking stuff. 0.90

00:22:42.000 So, the DOJ works hand in glove with a militant pro abortion group that likes to kill unborn innocent babies.

00:22:51.000 Then they get dossiers on who to prosecute.

00:22:55.000 And then the DOJ puts out a jury questionnaire in the case to make sure they're not getting any news about their weaponization of the DOJ.

00:23:06.000 With these face act violations.

00:23:07.000 There's so much stuff we could get into.

00:23:09.000 Like people they were prosecuting, they were doing similar to J6, where you could have easily just indicted this person in a normal way, but as a stunt, they'll send heavily harmed FBI agents to kick down their door while their kids are there all screaming.

00:23:24.000 They did that to a man, I believe, Paul Vaughn in Tennessee.

00:23:29.000 They did that with him, Mark Houck, another one.

00:23:32.000 All of this outrageous behavior.

00:23:34.000 Another thing that should be flagged, and this merits follow up investigation.

00:23:38.000 A lawyer for the National Abortion Federation, their chief legal and strategy officer, was testifying before Congress to Chip Roy and claimed to them, actually, you know, we had pretty much no influence over Biden FACE Act prosecutions.

00:23:56.000 So they claimed publicly to Congress they were not able to influence these things.

00:24:01.000 Now we know that was a lie.

00:24:03.000 They were basically, they had a practical assembly line for these prosecutions, direct.

00:24:09.000 To the DOJ's prosecutor.

00:24:10.000 They outsourced their investigation.

00:24:12.000 The DOJ outsourced it to them and then was saying, These guys are great.

00:24:16.000 They send us all this info on who we can prosecute.

00:24:18.000 Calling them MVPs.

00:24:19.000 Yeah. 0.79

00:24:20.000 And then they lied about it because, of course, that's what cults do, that's what baby killing cultists do.

00:24:27.000 I mean, evil's going to behave evil.

00:24:29.000 That's what happens.

00:24:32.000 The report, just in conclusion, the Biden DOJ violated the rights of Americans by its biased enforcement of the FACE Act.

00:24:39.000 So that's point one.

00:24:40.000 Point two, the Biden DOJ collaborated with pro abortion groups to track pro life activists and their First Amendment activity.

00:24:48.000 So Todd Blanch and the DOJ are saying this is their First Amendment rights that were violated.

00:24:55.000 And yeah, you saw a tweet by Mary Margaret Olehan, who's done a great job covering this.

00:25:00.000 Point three, the Biden DOJ prosecutors engaged in inappropriate conduct in comments, which is clear.

00:25:08.000 Four, the Biden DOJ pursued more severe charges and significantly harsher sentences for peaceful pro life defendants than violent pro abortion defendants.

00:25:19.000 And maybe that's worth getting into a little bit.

00:25:21.000 You will remember stories of all of these people in the centers getting firebombed.

00:25:25.000 The worst thing any of these people did is basically they did a, you know, when college students will like occupy the president's building on a campus. 0.63

00:25:32.000 They were doing that in abortion clinics.

00:25:33.000 That's the worst thing any of these people did, they disruptively occupied a clinic.

00:25:38.000 And then, yeah, we've had multiple cases.

00:25:41.000 Yeah, pro abortion zealots will sucker punch people praying outside of clinics. 0.90

00:25:45.000 The firebomb clinics.

00:25:48.000 The pro abortion ones are not. 0.81

00:25:50.000 Oh, yeah, the crisis pregnancy centers.

00:25:52.000 Yeah.

00:25:52.000 So, of course, another thing we would be remiss if we missed we have assistant U.S. attorneys, the assistant prosecutors in these cases.

00:26:00.000 They're internally complaining, they quote, Ended up with a very Catholic magistrate, a judge, on duty this week.

00:26:07.000 He was very particular about the bond conditions and not infringing on defendants' First Amendment rights.

00:26:14.000 Don't you hate it when that happens?

00:26:16.000 Don't you hate it when there's actually somebody with principles and scruples?

00:26:18.000 Don't you hate it when they're defending the First Amendment?

00:26:21.000 Huge violence.

00:26:22.000 But I just want to underscore that fourth point that the Biden DOJ pursued more severe charges against peaceful pro life activists.

00:26:34.000 Than they did for violent pro abortion defendants.

00:26:41.000 So you would get a harsher sentence for praying too close to an abortion clinic.

00:26:47.000 Or, yeah, to Blake's point, sometimes they would do sit ins and they understood that they were maybe going to get arrested, but it was kind of a protest.

00:26:56.000 Like you're trying to disrupt the killing of innocent life.

00:27:00.000 So they would sit there and they would pray.

00:27:02.000 They would get a harsher sentence than the people who firebombed pregnancy centers.

00:27:08.000 Just like let that sink in. 0.96

00:27:12.000 And point number five the Biden DOJ sought to provide funding to pro abortion groups, which, of course, that's what they do.

00:27:20.000 So if you are a 501c3 that likes to murder little babies, they're going to make sure that you get all the money and funding you need, just like they give all the money and funding they need to the groups that help illegals game our asylum system.

00:27:34.000 So, this is a really huge story because these people are now fired. 0.72

00:27:40.000 They are gone.

00:27:42.000 They're just disgraced.

00:27:43.000 I'm genuinely angry.

00:27:44.000 I'm reading Mary Margaret's thread on X, where she's describing these people have been fired from their jobs.

00:27:53.000 We see potential threads where maybe you could indict this person, National Abortion Federation.

00:27:58.000 They actually have already been accountability for real people who helped cause this to happen.

00:28:02.000 And then these replies are these random whiners saying, Nice report.

00:28:07.000 Nothing will happen. 0.68

00:28:08.000 Oh, that's a cool.

00:28:10.000 Another report where no one will be held accountable.

00:28:13.000 Guys, they held the Sanjay Patel, the first guy we mentioned, they fired him.

00:28:18.000 He lost his job because of this misconduct.

00:28:21.000 That is actual accountability.

00:28:23.000 That is actual progress.

00:28:24.000 And you can't ignore those things because you want to complain.

00:28:28.000 Well, and that's the thing.

00:28:29.000 I just want to make that point one more time.

00:28:31.000 If Kamala Harris had won, or if we get Democrats in power again, imagine what's going to happen to the pro life movement.

00:28:38.000 Imagine.

00:28:40.000 And I would wager to suggest this is the most pro life administration we have ever had.

00:28:45.000 And so we need to be thankful for that.

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00:31:23.000 So, RFK has been testifying on Capitol Hill this morning.

00:31:28.000 And there were two pieces of news that I want to tie into the fact that this is the most pro life administration I believe that we've ever had, at least in modern American history, since the passage of Roe v. Wade, certainly.

00:31:40.000 And this one was really shocking.

00:31:45.000 SAT 6.

00:31:54.000 Is that the Biden administration was excluding an entire class of people because of their religious beliefs.

00:32:01.000 We are, and told the states to actually pass laws, instructed them to pass laws, refusing families who had religious, certain religious beliefs, mainly Christian religious beliefs, not be allowed to have children.

00:32:16.000 And that dramatically constricted the pool of available parents.

00:32:21.000 So I want to make sure you caught what he just said there at the end.

00:32:24.000 The Biden administration was restricting adoptions for Christian families.

00:32:33.000 We are a Christian nation.

00:32:35.000 So you just took off a huge swath of people that wanted to adopt babies.

00:32:41.000 That not only doesn't make any sense, it's insane.

00:32:45.000 That is diabolical, I would say.

00:32:49.000 Christians are the ones most prone to have their hearts moved by God to go adopt a baby that needs a home and that needs love.

00:32:57.000 And they were biased against Christian families.

00:33:00.000 So, once again, tying it into our theme, if you're tempted to complain about this or that, and that's fine, you can have policy disagreements, you can complain about certain things, you can hold the administration's feet to the fire.

00:33:13.000 I think that's all fair.

00:33:14.000 But just remember what we were living under this sort of soft tyranny, this behind the scenes tyranny, where a Christian family would have gone and said, Our hearts are moved to adopt a baby that needs a family.

00:33:26.000 And the Biden administration actively worked.

00:33:30.000 To exclude Christian families from the adoption market pool.

00:33:35.000 That's so evil, it's hard to put into words.

00:33:40.000 So, RFK was making a point that more babies are being adopted now, and you can have multiple maybe in some homes overturning Biden era policies.

00:33:50.000 I don't know if you have a thought on that. 0.52

00:33:52.000 You're the Catholic.

00:33:53.000 I know this is near and dear to Catholic. 0.99

00:33:55.000 It's just very evil what they do. 1.00

00:33:57.000 You see this with the story we just talked about.

00:34:00.000 You can mix in a million others.

00:34:01.000 We'll get into it in the next segment with.

00:34:04.000 Their approach on amnesty and all of that.

00:34:06.000 It's just this there's a lot of malice that drives a lot of left wing policies in a way that is very.

00:34:15.000 The anti Christian bias of the Biden administration and all the little apparatchiks that he staffed his government with.

00:34:21.000 Because let's be honest, I mean, Biden was old and senile.

00:34:23.000 He wasn't running all this.

00:34:24.000 This was a bunch of young radicals that have a very clear vision of the future of this country.

00:34:29.000 One, they want mass immigration, they want to replace you.

00:34:32.000 They want anybody of European descent and heritage. 1.00

00:34:36.000 You are an impediment to them doing whatever the hell they want to do with this country. 0.99

00:34:40.000 So they want to get rid of you.

00:34:41.000 And we're going to get into that next hour with Orrin McIntyre.

00:34:44.000 Number two, they don't like Christians.

00:34:46.000 Why don't they like Christians? 0.85

00:34:48.000 Well, because. 0.97

00:34:49.000 Christians tend to vote Republican, first of all, and Christians stand in the way of their communist takeover of the country. 0.84

00:34:56.000 So they don't want babies going into Christian homes, even if they need adoption, even if they need love, even if they need a roof over their head. 0.94

00:35:03.000 They would rather not allow more babies to become Christian because that doesn't play well with their future vision of America. 0.83

00:35:11.000 The left, since the French Revolution, has always been anti Christian. 0.62

00:35:14.000 They were in France, they were in Soviet Russia.

00:35:17.000 It has always been a core part of its agenda. 0.96

00:35:20.000 I totally agree.

00:35:21.000 And here's another bombshell from RFK's testimony that I think plays into this theme very well.

00:35:27.000 SOP 5.

00:35:29.000 It was a humanitarian crisis, what my predecessor engineered with the Biden administration.

00:35:37.000 They lost 425,000 children.

00:35:40.000 They lost them because they ended verification of sponsors.

00:35:46.000 People were just showing up with fake IDs.

00:35:49.000 There was no genetic testing, there was no income inquiries.

00:35:54.000 It was no ID validation.

00:35:58.000 And we are now in the process of trying to find those children.

00:36:02.000 We've been able to locate 138,000 of them.

00:36:06.000 So, just to wrap this up, and then we have some breaking news.

00:36:09.000 The Trump administration has located almost 140,000 missing kids out of the 425,000 missing unaccompanied minors that the Biden administration has.

00:36:20.000 They were waving kids in, alleged kids in, and just letting them disappear into America.

00:36:24.000 No follow up, no tracking.

00:36:25.000 The humanitarian, the compassionate party.

00:36:28.000 Just loses half a million kids and no idea where they went.

00:36:32.000 And the Trump administration is doing the hard work to identify and locate them.

00:36:36.000 It's a painstaking process, but they've identified 138,000 of them.

00:36:42.000 Most pro life administration in living memory, I would wager to guess.

00:36:47.000 But now, breaking news.

00:36:47.000 We have breaking news just happened a few minutes ago.

00:36:50.000 So we covered with the chapter leader at Utah Valley the other day how they got a commencement speaker who had attacked Charlie after his death, tried to explain why people might be celebrating his death, why people might.

00:37:02.000 That's why he was a figure of bigotry and hate, and we criticize that.

00:37:06.000 Utah Valley just announced minutes ago they will have no commencement speaker for this spring.

00:37:13.000 Now, here's what's annoying they say it's not because oh, we picked a terrible speaker and that was our bad, they say they have increased safety concerns about what happened.

00:37:24.000 So, of course, basically, it's our fault we were engaged in menacing behavior, they say.

00:37:30.000 Uh, but regardless, hey, it's a speaker they shouldn't have chosen.

00:37:34.000 Yep, good.

00:37:36.000 Listen, this was.

00:37:37.000 Nobody was making any threats about this.

00:37:40.000 Nobody was saying it was a bad idea.

00:37:44.000 Well, anyways, hallelujah.

00:37:46.000 Good.

00:37:46.000 I'm glad they got the memo.

00:37:48.000 And thank you also to Senator Mike Lee, who's been very loud about that in Utah.

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00:39:07.000 In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in.

00:39:12.000 They're eating the cats.

00:39:15.000 They're eating the pets of the people that live there.

00:39:19.000 And this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame.

00:39:23.000 You know, I can't even hear that classic clip without thinking of the song that came out today.

00:39:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:28.000 They're eating the dogs.

00:39:29.000 All right.

00:39:31.000 There's some unfortunate news, but listen.

00:39:35.000 We just got to cover it. 0.60

00:39:36.000 We just said no black pilling, but we do have to cover bad news so we can stop it.

00:39:39.000 We do have to stop it.

00:39:40.000 We have to hold people accountable.

00:39:41.000 Here to help us do it is Orrin McIntyre.

00:39:43.000 He's a columnist and Blaze TV host of The Orrin McIntyre Show.

00:39:46.000 Orrin, welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show.

00:39:49.000 It's good to see you.

00:39:49.000 Thanks for having me, guys.

00:39:51.000 So you put out a tweet this morning with the names of six GOP traders, is what you called them.

00:39:58.000 And I agree.

00:40:00.000 That would be Rep. Maria Salazar, who we've covered extensively on the show, Rep. Don Bacon, Rep. Brian Fitz.

00:40:08.000 I guess that's his handle.

00:40:10.000 Rep. Mike Lawler.

00:40:11.000 There's some others.

00:40:12.000 We've got the names there for you, the phone numbers.

00:40:17.000 I'm so glad that you led this charge because there has been a vote to give, to extend temporary protected status to hundreds of thousands of Haitian migrants that Joe Biden led in.

00:40:29.000 Explain what happened here.

00:40:32.000 And their rationale and why you're so passionate about this issue.

00:40:36.000 Well, a lot of people have given the idea that these are valuable workers.

00:40:40.000 They're working in the healthcare industry, making sure to take care of our seniors, and we have to keep them around because also it's just too dangerous.

00:40:46.000 We actually had some representatives say that it was a death sentence to send these people back to Haiti. 1.00

00:40:53.000 The incredible thing is the problem with Haiti, the reason it's dangerous is because Haitians live there. 0.96

00:40:59.000 It's on an island that is divided. 1.00

00:41:03.000 Between two different countries, and one of them is just fine.

00:41:05.000 The Dominican Republic, I wouldn't want to live there, but it's okay. 0.97

00:41:08.000 And then there's Haiti, and it's been a nightmare its entire existence.

00:41:11.000 So it's not socioeconomic factors, it's not the land. 0.99

00:41:15.000 This is a group of people who have a high propensity towards violence, and they don't belong in the United States, yet they're kept here. 1.00

00:41:22.000 In fact, there's such a danger involved that recently a woman in my area of Florida was beaten to death with a hammer by a Haitian immigrant. 1.00

00:41:32.000 We do not need people here who have a violent history who don't belong here. 0.76

00:41:36.000 And the idea that because it's too dangerous to go back to the very place that was made dangerous by many of these people, or that somehow keeping them around for economic benefit is ultimately justified, is insane.

00:41:48.000 This is not why people supported Donald Trump.

00:41:50.000 It's not why people supported the Republican Party.

00:41:52.000 It's exactly the opposite.

00:41:54.000 And the fact that Maria Salazar is yet again leading the charge on a horrific immigration related bill really tells us that we need to be very careful about who's getting endorsements and who's ultimately getting support from Donald Trump and the Republican Party.

00:42:08.000 We do not expect this.

00:42:09.000 We shouldn't have to live like this.

00:42:10.000 This is insane.

00:42:11.000 Yeah.

00:42:12.000 And you see the B roll right here, Oren, of that apparently is illegal.

00:42:18.000 That was given, that was allowed in during the Biden years and bludgeoned a woman to death.

00:42:25.000 And that's close to where you live.

00:42:27.000 I mean, that really brings it home.

00:42:30.000 And there was no, we can't tell from the footage that anything incited this violence.

00:42:36.000 It seems to be a completely random act of violence.

00:42:40.000 And we have instance after instance after instance of law abiding, peaceful Americans that have been killed, maimed, murdered by. 1.00

00:42:49.000 Illegals by foreigners that have no business to be here. 0.99

00:42:52.000 Illegals led in by Biden, given quasi amnesty, given asylum seekers, given free housing. 0.98

00:42:59.000 And yeah, it's every month, every two months, we just drumbeat another one of these murders. 0.80

00:43:04.000 Yeah, well, and what's insane about this, and actually JD Vance has made good comments about this, is the left will come back, Oren, and they'll say, well, they aren't illegals. 0.70

00:43:12.000 They're legally here because of temporary protected status.

00:43:16.000 What's your response to that?

00:43:18.000 I think we need to get over this obsession with proceduralism.

00:43:22.000 Okay, that's not.

00:43:23.000 Okay, that these people are my country.

00:43:24.000 I don't care if they're here legally or not.

00:43:26.000 They don't belong here.

00:43:28.000 And you can't just wave a wand as the Biden administration and say, because we sprinkled some fairy dust over these people, now they're here legally.

00:43:35.000 No, absolutely not.

00:43:36.000 They're not citizens.

00:43:37.000 They didn't go through a process.

00:43:38.000 They do not belong here.

00:43:39.000 And even if they had gone through the whole process, I wouldn't care because I care about the well being of my community.

00:43:46.000 I've driven by that gas station many times.

00:43:49.000 This is not some theoretical thing.

00:43:51.000 This is not some abstract discussion on the nature of American immigration and who we believe ultimately to be a citizen and.

00:43:57.000 What makes an American?

00:43:58.000 Those are all really important discussions.

00:44:00.000 But this is brass tacks safety of people. 1.00

00:44:03.000 We just saw a child slashed in the face by an immigrant. 1.00

00:44:07.000 We got the police body cam footage from the whole thing. 1.00

00:44:10.000 Luckily, that officer shot that woman for doing so.

00:44:14.000 But ultimately, this is something we're seeing day in and day out. 0.90

00:44:18.000 The American people are living under the tyranny and violence of illegal immigration and, sadly, legal immigration. 0.99

00:44:25.000 People should not be coming to this country right now. 1.00

00:44:28.000 We are full.

00:44:29.000 We have to deal with the violence that is already here.

00:44:31.000 The poverty is already here.

00:44:33.000 We're talking about in the Haitian community, a community that is over 60% on welfare, on some form of government subsidy. 0.97

00:44:40.000 These people are not adding to the economy. 0.93

00:44:42.000 They're not adding to the American dream.

00:44:45.000 They are taking it away.

00:44:47.000 There should be no room for this.

00:44:49.000 I don't care what kind of paperwork was waved over them when they walked across the border or flew in.

00:44:54.000 It's just truly like it is mental illness as a country to do this, to take people who. 0.60

00:45:00.000 We can know, we can run the numbers. 0.90

00:45:01.000 They will be dependents.

00:45:03.000 They will, on average, be net negatives for this country to pay to bring them in, pay to support them, pay to investigate the crimes we commit, pay to imprison them.

00:45:14.000 All of these things.

00:45:15.000 I really want to dive into specifically the insanity of this temporary protected status thing that they're trying to extend by statute for them.

00:45:22.000 Haiti has been under temporary protected status since 2011 because there was that earthquake in Haiti, 2010.

00:45:30.000 That was 16 years ago.

00:45:31.000 A person who was born after that earthquake is nearly old enough to vote.

00:45:35.000 That is not temporary. 1.00

00:45:36.000 That's just permanently saying we're allowing anyone from this bad country to come here. 1.00

00:45:42.000 We have worse examples.

00:45:43.000 If you want to know how insane this program is, a lot of these countries were trying to remove it. 0.65

00:45:47.000 One that we haven't tried to remove it yet is El Salvador.

00:45:50.000 Guess how long El Salvador has been under temporary protected status?

00:45:55.000 No idea.

00:45:56.000 2001.

00:45:57.000 So, 2001, you are 25 years old if you were born after that order came down.

00:46:03.000 And On top of that, it's El Salvador.

00:46:05.000 El Salvador is safer than the United States.

00:46:06.000 Exactly.

00:46:07.000 El Salvador is great right now.

00:46:08.000 Why do we need any temporary program to keep an illegal immigrant from El Salvador from going back to the country they came from?

00:46:14.000 They'd be better off. 0.94

00:46:15.000 So, why are six GOP House members, again, Don Bankett, Brian Fitzpatrick, Mike Lawler, Maria Elvira Salazar, who, by the way, said the Dignidad Act is not amnesty? 0.98

00:46:27.000 And then she turns around and tries to give amnesty to hundreds of thousands of Haitians.

00:46:30.000 Carlos Jimenez from Florida's 28th, and Nicole Maliotakis from New York's 11th District.

00:46:36.000 Why are they throwing in with Democrats to extend temporary protected status?

00:46:42.000 Again, I think a lot of them will give you some kind of false answer about the dangers to the community if they go back or what their economic output is.

00:46:50.000 The truth is, ultimately, these people are trying to get votes.

00:46:54.000 They understand that if they stay long enough, these people are going to get some kind of citizenship.

00:46:58.000 They're going to get some kind of amnesty.

00:46:59.000 We've got the 14th Amendment and the birthright citizenship case in front of the Supreme Court right now.

00:47:06.000 As long as these people have kids in the United States, they're going to be here and those kids are going to get to vote.

00:47:10.000 And these people know that ultimately this is going to secure them political power.

00:47:13.000 That's what it's really all about. 0.53

00:47:15.000 It's ethnic patronage that's going to guarantee you some kind of political power down the line. 0.64

00:47:20.000 And it's a betrayal of Americans, it's a betrayal of Republican voters.

00:47:23.000 Orin, there were some comments here by Pope Leo that are a little bit frustrating to hear.

00:47:31.000 And I'm not Catholic.

00:47:33.000 Blake is Catholic, so he's my cover.

00:47:34.000 Makes a lot of annoying comments.

00:47:36.000 So let's go ahead and play SOT 7.

00:47:39.000 I know that in Europe there are many times fears that are present but oftentimes generated by people who are against immigration and trying to keep out people who may be from another country, another religion, another race.

00:47:58.000 And in that sense, I would say that we all need to work together.

00:48:02.000 One of the values of this trip is precisely to raise the world's attention to the possibility that dialogue and friendship between Muslims and Christians is possible. 0.81

00:48:15.000 So, lifting up Lebanon as an example of why it's okay to have a bunch of Muslims immigrate into Europe, and it's all going to be okay, Oren.

00:48:25.000 Your response. 0.51

00:48:26.000 Yeah, I think Europe is just doing great with all those Muslims that haven't been any problem. 0.91

00:48:30.000 The large number of English girls who have been raped and had that covered up by the government.

00:48:35.000 I'm sure that they really believe that ultimately Islam and Christianity can coexist peacefully. 0.95

00:48:41.000 Obviously, this is ridiculous, and both American Protestants and Catholics need to bond over our habit of ignoring what the Pope says.

00:48:49.000 He's been wrong about this pretty much every turn. 0.70

00:48:52.000 The Catholics have another liberal pope on immigration.

00:48:55.000 No surprise there.

00:48:56.000 We should not be influenced on this in any way by the pope.

00:48:59.000 You know, it's interesting.

00:49:00.000 I was on with Chris Cuomo on his show yesterday, and he sort of said, as a Catholic, I'm offended that some of the comments that JD Vance made about the pope and the delineation between, you know, I guess his theological commentary and his political commentary.

00:49:18.000 But it all kind of feels like it's, you know, it's.

00:49:23.000 Political, candidly.

00:49:24.000 You know, you might couch it in theological terms, but it feels political.

00:49:27.000 Now, Blake gets a freebie because he's Catholic, but Oren, you and me, we are not Catholic.

00:49:32.000 Where do you think the line is as Protestants?

00:49:34.000 I mean, I want to bring the Catholics and Protestants together.

00:49:37.000 I feel like there's this effort to sort of put a wedge between us.

00:49:40.000 So we're very ecumenical on this show. 0.84

00:49:42.000 But man, if he keeps saying we need to just like let in all these Muslims come into the West, I feel like I have to speak up because this is getting out of control.

00:49:53.000 What's your take as a Protestant?

00:49:55.000 I think it's really important, and I think many Catholics already know this, but I think it's important that everyone drives this home for us to just recognize that there are huge problems inside of every denomination right now.

00:50:05.000 I'm a Southern Baptist, and while luckily we don't have someone like the Pope up there talking, it's not like evangelical Christians don't have some pretty bad examples going around right now.

00:50:15.000 So it's okay if we just all take a moment to maybe get that log out of our own eye before we start yelling about the spec. 0.53

00:50:23.000 Each other's eyes.

00:50:24.000 I think both Protestant and Catholics have a lot of work to do. 1.00

00:50:27.000 That said, Catholics need to become, you know, more comfortable with people going after the Pope when he says something stupid. 0.97

00:50:35.000 If you turn around and tell me that, you know, Paula White is saying something crazy and needs to be ignored, that's not going to offend me as a Protestant. 0.99

00:50:43.000 I'm going to be okay and my feelings will not get hurt.

00:50:45.000 I'll just agree with you.

00:50:46.000 And I think we need to treat the Pope the same way.

00:50:48.000 I understand it's a little harder for Catholics. 0.78

00:50:50.000 They have one unified command structure.

00:50:53.000 So, you know, any individual person isn't as embarrassing for the Different Protestant denominations, as where the Catholic really only have one guy that they kind of are looking towards when it comes to this kind of stuff.

00:51:04.000 But we all need to be able to take a step back and say, look, let's solve these problems inside our own churches.

00:51:10.000 And if someone notices that one of the people who are leading one of our churches or the entire church is saying something dumb, let's not get offended when they point out and that's correct.

00:51:20.000 It's okay to correct these things. 0.99

00:51:22.000 If the Pope is going to come out and say something stupid about immigration, about politics, then it is all right. 0.99

00:51:28.000 To say, no, that's dumb, and you're entering into a realm you should not be playing in, and that's going to come with consequences. 0.99

00:51:34.000 We're going to push back on that, and that doesn't mean we're attacking Catholics worldwide any more than having comments about Paula White is attacking all Protestants. 0.96

00:51:43.000 It's okay.

00:51:44.000 Blake, you're Catholic. 1.00

00:51:45.000 It's just, yeah, it is what frustrates me the most. 0.93

00:51:50.000 I'll have a lot more tolerance for the Pope weighing in on something that actually matches with two millennia of Catholic teaching, because the core of the church's truth claim is that it's had the same message for a long time.

00:52:01.000 So, for example, I checked, and the Pope also criticized when J.B. Pritzker legalized assisted suicide in Illinois, for example. 0.57

00:52:10.000 I'm glad he did that.

00:52:11.000 Assisted suicide is bad.

00:52:13.000 Christians, the Catholic Church, has always opposed assisted suicide. 0.55

00:52:16.000 Always opposed abortion.

00:52:17.000 And if you want to say we've always favored peace, that's fine. 0.63

00:52:20.000 But saying actually you have to embrace mass immigration from Muslim countries, you have to have amnesty for illegal immigrants, that is not a Catholic position. 0.63

00:52:31.000 That is just a lib position. 0.94

00:52:33.000 Well, that's what's interesting.

00:52:34.000 You know, what about the reconquest of Spain?

00:52:37.000 It was a 7th century effort to push the Muslim conquerors out of Spain. 0.96

00:52:43.000 Is that a bad thing that Spain is now Christian and Catholic? 0.95

00:52:47.000 For that matter, I mean, I just, none of this actually comports with what I've seen historically.

00:52:52.000 I mean, I think there's another issue with the Pope that drives a lot of us nuts is that this selective outrage, where he's going to Algeria, he's talking about Muslims and Christians uniting and coexisting in peace and harmony, which has not been the case anywhere.

00:53:07.000 Lebanon, by the way, used to be almost 70% Christian.

00:53:11.000 Now it's about 29% Christian because guess what?

00:53:15.000 A lot of Christian Lebanese have had to flee their home country.

00:53:18.000 Because of persecution, harassment, and violence.

00:53:20.000 And it's not a nice country.

00:53:22.000 It's a country.

00:53:24.000 Certainly not anymore today.

00:53:25.000 It's had civil wars.

00:53:27.000 Take a wild guess who the factions in those civil wars are.

00:53:31.000 And it's had a lot of violence.

00:53:34.000 It's not very economically well off.

00:53:37.000 And it's also politically split.

00:53:39.000 The classic reasons diversity is not very good.

00:53:41.000 Their politics is just entirely sectarian.

00:53:44.000 And so you can't have normal political debates about anything.

00:53:47.000 That's one of the obvious downsides.

00:53:49.000 Of diversity writ large all over the world.

00:53:52.000 And it's annoying and frankly a little obnoxious and clueless for the Pope to say, why don't you all look at this country that's not awesome and try to imitate them?

00:54:02.000 Final thoughts to you, Oren.

00:54:04.000 Is diversity our strength and what do we do about it?

00:54:07.000 No, not at all.

00:54:08.000 And the funny thing is the Catholic Church recognized this. 0.98

00:54:11.000 Remember, Europe would be Muslim if not for Charles Martel killing a lot of Muslims. 0.91

00:54:18.000 If Charlemagne had not ultimately conquered the Saxons with the sword, They never would have become Christian. 0.93

00:54:23.000 Let's not even start with the defensive wars of the Crusades.

00:54:27.000 Obviously, there's a long history of the church being involved in very serious conflict, in often cases, protection of the faith of believers.

00:54:37.000 There's absolutely nothing wrong with fighting against those who oppose and want to destroy Christendom.

00:54:43.000 Like, that's actually what the church should be there to do. 0.54

00:54:46.000 So, when you have a pope running around saying, actually, this is never justified and you have to let Muslims into your land, He is literally working in the exact opposite way that the Catholic Church has worked for centuries.

00:54:58.000 There's simply no reason to be pushing this unless you're just pushing a liberal worldview under the guise of Catholic theology.

00:55:06.000 And I think pretty much everyone, Protestant and Catholic, is exhausted with that.

00:55:11.000 Oren McIntyre, great stuff.

00:55:13.000 Check him out at the Oren McIntyre show at Blaze TV.

00:55:16.000 And he's also a columnist there.

00:55:18.000 Great stuff, Oren.

00:55:19.000 Thank you.

00:55:19.000 Thanks for having me, guys.

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00:56:37.000 We have Daisy in studio.

00:56:39.000 She's back.

00:56:40.000 All right, Daisy, we call this No Stupid Questions because we don't believe there are stupid questions. 1.00

00:56:46.000 I have a stupid question for you, but we can get to that later if you want. 1.00

00:56:50.000 We can start with yours. 1.00

00:56:51.000 This No Dumb Questions, I think, has a little bit of a twist because I've never been dumber in some ways.

00:56:57.000 I've been on maternity leave for three months.

00:57:00.000 It was very much like I didn't just not work.

00:57:03.000 What is that? 1.00

00:57:03.000 That's my stupid question. 1.00

00:57:05.000 What is you've been you used to be here, Daisy, and you've been gone for three months. 0.99

00:57:09.000 What happened?

00:57:09.000 And I never thought that I'd be gone for three months, but then you just have the most perfect little baby in the world, and you're like, Oh, I predicted you weren't going to come back at all.

00:57:17.000 I never thought that was the case.

00:57:18.000 I did take off a little more time than I thought I was going to, but I didn't just not work.

00:57:23.000 Also, so much of our work has to do with the news and politics that I was just like out of it completely.

00:57:30.000 Did you find that your happiness quotient was higher 1,000 percent?

00:57:34.000 I was like, oh, you don't have to be like bogged down by the news every day.

00:57:40.000 It was amazing, but then you kind of step back into reality and you're like, wait, gas prices are like way higher and we're in some sort of war and something happened in Hungary and also Trump is tweeting at the Pope.

00:57:50.000 So I missed a lot.

00:57:51.000 And posting Jesus memes.

00:57:53.000 He's actually just a Red Cross doctor.

00:57:55.000 He thought he was a doctor.

00:57:56.000 Is that how you learned about the Iran thing?

00:57:58.000 Is you just noticed the gas prices changed a lot?

00:58:00.000 Well, there was some bombing with Lebanon.

00:58:04.000 No. 0.50

00:58:06.000 After Iran. 0.85

00:58:07.000 Okay. 0.83

00:58:07.000 Iran. 0.83

00:58:08.000 Okay. 0.92

00:58:08.000 Straight of Hormuz. 0.92

00:58:09.000 Okay.

00:58:09.000 Yes.

00:58:10.000 Yeah.

00:58:10.000 So I've been seeing the way that I'm seeing this is like people that I follow just in my life.

00:58:15.000 So they're on all sides of the spectrum posting outrage on their Instagram stories, on TikTok.

00:58:21.000 And so it's like, he wants to open the straight.

00:58:25.000 No one's opening the straight.

00:58:26.000 Then it's like, I can't believe we bombed such and such.

00:58:28.000 I'm like, I don't know what's happening.

00:58:29.000 I'm just trying to fill up my gas tank and it's like almost $5.

00:58:32.000 So something is clearly going on.

00:58:34.000 All right.

00:58:34.000 Well, amazing.

00:58:35.000 So you have no stupid questions for us. 0.99

00:58:37.000 What's the first one? 0.99

00:58:39.000 Okay, so I did hear that something happened in Hungary.

00:58:41.000 There was an election.

00:58:42.000 Yes.

00:58:42.000 And I'm not sure which side is which, but one side was really happy about it and one side was not.

00:58:46.000 And we're not sure.

00:58:47.000 And then they switched.

00:58:48.000 It's changing who's happy all the time.

00:58:50.000 I think you did on this story.

00:58:51.000 Yes.

00:58:51.000 So there was a leader in Hungary we really liked, Charlie really liked.

00:58:55.000 He's been around for a long time.

00:58:56.000 His name was Viktor Orban.

00:58:58.000 Yes.

00:58:58.000 He won his first election back in 2010, I believe, a big landslide.

00:59:03.000 And he's basically everything we would want in a leader pro family, pro Christian, pro borders.

00:59:10.000 He stopped. 1.00

00:59:11.000 He rejected all the immigrations that's happening in most of Europe. 0.99

00:59:15.000 And he made libs in Europe go absolutely bonkers.

00:59:18.000 They've been obsessed with taking him out for 16 years at this point.

00:59:22.000 But he won four elections in a row.

00:59:24.000 This time around, he was less popular.

00:59:28.000 They've had corruption issues.

00:59:29.000 I don't think that's surprising when you've been in power that long.

00:59:32.000 They had some other flubs.

00:59:34.000 So this time, they ran a guy against him and he lost, knocked him out of power.

00:59:38.000 And so we were upset.

00:59:39.000 The left was super happy.

00:59:41.000 But the guy they ran against him to finally take him down, they did run a guy who was an ex member of his party.

00:59:48.000 He was kind of on the right in a lot of ways.

00:59:50.000 It's sort of like if the Democrats kept losing to Donald Trump and they finally ran maybe Mitt Romney or something as their candidate.

00:59:58.000 And so just the other day, the new president, the new prime minister of Hungary came out and said, Yeah, even though I'm in charge now, we're still not passing the European Union's migration agreement.

01:00:09.000 In fact, I'm going to increase enforcement on immigration, and the border wall will get.

01:00:14.000 Ten feet higher, as it were.

01:00:16.000 And so. 1.00

01:00:17.000 I'd still say we'd rather have Orban, but that is a good sign.

01:00:21.000 The left is going to start freaking out.

01:00:22.000 Maybe this guy will turn out to be a dictator too.

01:00:25.000 I was going to ask, is he just better on immigration? 0.67

01:00:28.000 Probably.

01:00:29.000 He's more liberal than Orban.

01:00:31.000 Yeah. 0.89

01:00:31.000 But he's not AOC. 0.89

01:00:35.000 He's something.

01:00:36.000 If he stays good on immigration, we can handle him being bad on basically any other issue.

01:00:40.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:00:40.000 Immigration is the one thing that can truly transform negatively the countries of Europe. 0.94

01:00:47.000 It's the one thing that's almost unfixable. 1.00

01:00:48.000 It's unfixable.

01:00:49.000 And once you let them in, they're in.

01:00:51.000 So. 0.96

01:00:52.000 That's not a stupid question. 0.97

01:00:53.000 That's actually a good one because that's a new development in that story. 0.97

01:00:55.000 When did that happen?

01:00:56.000 That happened.

01:00:57.000 The election was last Sunday.

01:00:58.000 Okay.

01:00:59.000 Yep.

01:01:00.000 And JD Vance actually had gone over and spoke there.

01:01:02.000 Then he came back.

01:01:03.000 Then he went to Islamabad.

01:01:04.000 Then he came back.

01:01:05.000 So he's been back and forth as well. 1.00

01:01:08.000 I have a stupid question for you, unless you have another one. 0.99

01:01:10.000 Well, I was going to ask. 1.00

01:01:12.000 I clearly was off on the Lebanon situation.

01:01:14.000 What happened there?

01:01:15.000 Okay.

01:01:15.000 So we started the conflict with Iran because we had that buildup started happening even before you went on maternity leave.

01:01:24.000 We were gradually building up there.

01:01:25.000 We, of course, had the strikes last summer.

01:01:27.000 And then, yeah, about six, seven weeks ago, right at the start of March, end of February, They did strikes on Iran, basically said they're getting closer to a nuclear weapon, and they did a, they call it a decapitation strike. 0.67

01:01:40.000 They took out the Ayatollah. 0.51

01:01:41.000 They killed the Ayatollah.

01:01:42.000 I wasn't that out.

01:01:43.000 I knew that was happening.

01:01:44.000 Okay, so they did that.

01:01:45.000 And then as that war broke out, Israel, who's been our ally fighting Iran, they also started, they moved troops into southern Lebanon, and they started doing strikes on Lebanon.

01:01:55.000 The reason they did that is there's a group called Hezbollah, and Hezbollah is a militia.

01:02:02.000 Kind of a private army, a non state army of Shia Muslims.

01:02:06.000 That's the same religion they have in Iran.

01:02:08.000 And they've been in conflict with Israel for ages. 0.82

01:02:12.000 And I think Israel basically saw this war is also our chance to take out Hezbollah.

01:02:16.000 Hezbollah is considered a proxy of the Iranian regime.

01:02:20.000 They're funded by the Iranians.

01:02:22.000 And so it's basically like two different groups, but they fight together. 0.81

01:02:26.000 So Israel thinks, hey, we're fighting Iran. 0.79

01:02:29.000 We're going to fight Hezbollah.

01:02:31.000 So they've been bombing Hezbollah.

01:02:32.000 President Trump actually just said that they're working on a peace deal between Israel and Lebanon right now.

01:02:39.000 So there's a meeting that's taking place at a very high level.

01:02:41.000 The complication here is.

01:02:43.000 When we started that attempted ceasefire with Iran a couple weeks ago, there was a dispute because Israel continued to bomb Lebanon and they said Lebanon's not part of the ceasefire.

01:02:54.000 Iran says it should be part of the ceasefire.

01:02:57.000 America was in the middle for a bit.

01:02:58.000 We've now sided with Israel, said it's not part of the ceasefire.

01:03:02.000 So now we have peace negotiations.

01:03:03.000 But we're going to try and get peace there.

01:03:05.000 Very complicated.

01:03:06.000 It's about as confusing to us.

01:03:08.000 Which actually was such an educational conversation, the one you and I had about Iraq, because I was like seven years old.

01:03:13.000 I learned so much about the different.

01:03:17.000 Like war gang allies that I would have never known about.

01:03:21.000 If it makes you feel better, all the different alliances and rivalries and hatreds in the Middle East are really complicated, even to me, even to the State Department.

01:03:29.000 It's a mess. 0.99

01:03:30.000 Which is a reason why we shouldn't be wasting blood and treasure in the Middle East, anyways. 1.00

01:03:35.000 Okay, you're right. 0.98

01:03:36.000 All right.

01:03:37.000 Who is Sabrina Carpenter and why do I care?

01:03:38.000 Yeah, why is she famous?

01:03:40.000 I don't know that you care.

01:03:41.000 I don't even know that I really care, but she is very famous.

01:03:46.000 She is, to be completely honest, I really do like pop culture.

01:03:49.000 She's not my personal favorite. 0.98

01:03:52.000 She is pretty explicit, very overt, not even overtly, it's like a lot of innuendos, very sexual, but she is the next big thing. 0.99

01:04:02.000 She's actually, she was on Disney Channel. 0.67

01:04:04.000 How famous? 0.73

01:04:05.000 From one to ten, where ten is Taylor Swift.

01:04:07.000 Yeah, I was going to say one to ten.

01:04:08.000 If ten is Taylor Swift, I'd say she's seven or eight on her way up.

01:04:14.000 Oh, wow.

01:04:14.000 Wow.

01:04:15.000 So she is, yeah, she's very, very famous now, but she was on Disney Channel a long time ago.

01:04:20.000 She looks old. 0.65

01:04:21.000 She's.

01:04:22.000 Probably my age, I would guess.

01:04:24.000 I would guess she's my age.

01:04:26.000 But yeah, she's the next big thing. 0.99

01:04:28.000 She headlined Coachella.

01:04:30.000 I actually, this is how out of the loop I was.

01:04:32.000 I heard about this story from Blake.

01:04:33.000 He was like, Do you want to talk about the Sabrina Carpenter thing?

01:04:36.000 I was like, What do you want to talk about?

01:04:37.000 All right, so what is the Sabrina Carpenter thing?

01:04:40.000 Blake, you should explain what you're talking about.

01:04:41.000 No, no, no.

01:04:42.000 You have learned more than me because you said it came up on one of your.

01:04:46.000 Yes, on the toast.

01:04:47.000 I was listening to the toast right as Blake texted me about it.

01:04:49.000 And they were talking about it.

01:04:51.000 She was headlining Coachella.

01:04:52.000 And all of a sudden, she heard this noise, and you could hear it, I guess, on the live stream of Coachella.

01:04:57.000 So it must have been extremely loud.

01:04:59.000 I'm going to butcher the word.

01:05:00.000 What is it? 0.99

01:05:01.000 She did a Zagroot.

01:05:03.000 Is that what it is?

01:05:03.000 The chant?

01:05:05.000 Someone was yodeling in the crowd.

01:05:07.000 She thought it was yodeling.

01:05:08.000 It wasn't yodeling.

01:05:09.000 No, we have the clip.

01:05:10.000 What number is it?

01:05:11.000 Oh, wait.

01:05:12.000 No, that's what clip? 0.99

01:05:13.000 Sorry, I was going to say it was 26, but that's just how old Sabrina Carpenter is.

01:05:17.000 So yeah, she is my age. 0.86

01:05:18.000 She's 26.

01:05:18.000 She is my age.

01:05:19.000 Sot 12.

01:05:20.000 Let's go ahead and play it.

01:05:23.000 I think I heard someone yodel.

01:05:30.000 Is that what you're doing?

01:05:35.000 I don't like it. 0.97

01:05:40.000 That's your culture, is yodeling?

01:05:46.000 Why is this controversial?

01:05:47.000 So, because I guess it is a culture in Middle Eastern and African cultures.

01:05:55.000 To be annoying at concerts?

01:05:56.000 That is what I have heard and seen about it. 1.00

01:05:59.000 So, she was putting down this woman's culture. 1.00

01:06:03.000 She thought it was yodeling.

01:06:04.000 The Toast actually had a good take on it because they were like, it's okay for her.

01:06:07.000 The backlash was so intense.

01:06:09.000 And they basically said, okay, it's okay for her to make fun of yodeling if yodeling actually was someone's culture.

01:06:14.000 But because it's Middle Eastern African, that was their take.

01:06:17.000 So, is she on her way down now? 0.98

01:06:18.000 Is Sabrina Carpenter finished?

01:06:20.000 Well, I think that.

01:06:21.000 We're getting to one of these, but there's an Alex Cooper, Alex Earl drama that's happening that kind of took over.

01:06:25.000 So, Sabrina Carpenter is probably very happy that more drama is happening.

01:06:29.000 Well, so some of these tweets are hilarious.

01:06:31.000 Sabrina saying that she doesn't like a cultural Arabic cheer.

01:06:34.000 This is so insensitive and Islamophobic.

01:06:36.000 I'm very disappointed in her. 0.86

01:06:38.000 Okay.

01:06:39.000 And then she apologized.

01:06:40.000 My apologies.

01:06:41.000 I didn't see this person with my eyes and couldn't hear clearly.

01:06:44.000 My reaction was pure confusion, sarcasm, and not ill intended.

01:06:47.000 Could have handled it better. 0.98

01:06:48.000 Now I know what a Zagruta is. 0.99

01:06:51.000 I welcome all cheers and yodels from here on out. 0.71

01:06:54.000 Okay. 1.00

01:06:54.000 Oh, her next concert's going to be horrible. 1.00

01:06:56.000 It's going to be terrible. 1.00

01:06:57.000 I don't know if I have more dumb questions or if you have more dumb questions. 0.99

01:06:59.000 Okay, but there is not a question. 0.98

01:07:01.000 Something that I did want to address because I feel like we know that Charlie would have loved this.

01:07:05.000 So there's a Page Six exclusive that came out that Taylor and Travis have set their wedding date, and it's July 4th weekend in New York City.

01:07:14.000 Oh.

01:07:14.000 So it is allegedly happening.

01:07:16.000 Wow, very patriotic.

01:07:17.000 I don't know.

01:07:18.000 Is she going to be Taylor Kelsey?

01:07:19.000 I don't think Charlie would be that happy because I don't think she's going to take his last name.

01:07:23.000 Taylor Kelsey, or you don't mean it.

01:07:25.000 Remember that line?

01:07:26.000 I remember.

01:07:27.000 I.

01:07:27.000 I remember that day he was live on the air.

01:07:29.000 Me and Emma Kate were like, Taylor and Travis just got engaged.

01:07:33.000 It was like the world stopped.

01:07:34.000 And he just kind of riffed, like, you know, got to take the name or you don't mean it.

01:07:40.000 He was genuinely happy for them.

01:07:41.000 I remember.

01:07:42.000 He was like, This is great.

01:07:43.000 He got criticized for it, but he was actually very positive.

01:07:46.000 He said, Listen, this is actually good for marriage, marriage culture.

01:07:49.000 You know, maybe a lot, maybe she'll be happier and she won't be writing all these depressing songs.

01:07:55.000 Have we seen that happen?

01:07:57.000 Have there been TikToks or Instagrams of people who got, Engaged because Taylor got engaged.

01:08:03.000 Well, the issue with that is, I think I don't know that a lot of her fan base is.

01:08:07.000 I don't know how to say this.

01:08:09.000 Oh, we have the clip.

01:08:10.000 We have the clip canceled.

01:08:11.000 I think we have the clip.

01:08:13.000 Yes, loaded as 13.

01:08:15.000 This was the moment you were talking about.

01:08:17.000 So, I'm so excited.

01:08:19.000 This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative.

01:08:25.000 Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds. 0.96

01:08:29.000 Reject feminism. 0.58

01:08:31.000 Submit to your husband, Taylor. 1.00

01:08:33.000 You're not in charge.

01:08:35.000 And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert.

01:08:43.000 I can't say it without laughing.

01:08:45.000 You got to change your name.

01:08:47.000 If not, you don't really mean it.

01:08:49.000 Congratulations, Taylor.

01:08:51.000 I think in Charlie's way, he was genuinely very happy for them.

01:08:54.000 But what got him in the public was when he said, submit to your husband, because that's.

01:08:59.000 The Taylor Swift fans do not want to hear that.

01:09:01.000 Well, she should.

01:09:03.000 I 100% agree.

01:09:04.000 Wasn't even her own album basically about that?

01:09:07.000 Yeah, she had a song about how she.

01:09:09.000 We talked about it in an AMA about how she was.

01:09:11.000 Someone wrote in and asked if she was really excited to get married and settle down.

01:09:15.000 I also have to say, this, I think, what I was going to say without wanting to get canceled is that you asked if her fan base is actually going to start getting married.

01:09:28.000 The issue is that they might not have been setting themselves up to get married this entire time in the same way that Taylor Swift was because they had so bought into the feminism girl boss thing. 0.87

01:09:37.000 Even though that's not what we were trying to tell Charlie this whole time, that's not what Taylor Swift was bought into.

01:09:41.000 And so now she's getting married, and they all might be trying to look in some slim pickings for men to get married to now.

01:09:49.000 Oh, you think they've aged out of the prime dating pool?

01:09:54.000 That's what I was saying without wanting to say it.

01:09:55.000 I'm sorry.

01:09:56.000 I'll say it.

01:09:57.000 I'm sorry.

01:09:57.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, if you want to get married, don't wait till you're 35 and all the good ones are gone.

01:10:02.000 It's a poor strategy.

01:10:03.000 You're like, okay, go freeze your eggs.

01:10:05.000 Go work in middle management at some shoe company and see how that works out for you.

01:10:08.000 Okay, whatever.

01:10:10.000 And to the person that emailed in and said that me and Blake should get married, I am already married.

01:10:14.000 My husband's here with my baby.

01:10:16.000 But we still are pro marriage for Blake.

01:10:18.000 100%.

01:10:19.000 Sending your resumes.

01:10:20.000 That's proof that we're seeing your emails.

01:10:22.000 So please write in and give them to us so we can send them to you.

01:10:24.000 We can monitor them the whole show.

01:10:25.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:10:27.000 If you are interested in Blake, we are taking applications right now.

01:10:32.000 We should do an AMA that's like, Speed dating theme.

01:10:35.000 Oh dear.

01:10:36.000 Only potential suitors for Blair.

01:10:38.000 Oh my gosh.

01:10:38.000 Like, love is blind.

01:10:39.000 Remember when we talked about love is blind on Thought Crime, but you can only hear their voice and you can't ask any questions about what they look like?

01:10:45.000 He's been taking his strong self for a while now.

01:10:47.000 He is ready.

01:10:48.000 He is in prime physical condition and he's ready.

01:10:54.000 He's ready and able and he is a good man.

01:10:58.000 If something's going to get me to come back to work after maternity leave, it is finding the person.

01:11:01.000 I will say, I did date someone who contacted the show for.

01:11:05.000 For quite a while.

01:11:06.000 It went fine.

01:11:07.000 That could be you.

01:11:08.000 It didn't work out, but it was fine.

01:11:09.000 That could be you.

01:11:09.000 You're a gentleman.

01:11:10.000 You're a gentleman. 0.99

01:11:11.000 Okay, I have one last stupid question for you. 0.99

01:11:13.000 There's like these Alex people. 0.99

01:11:16.000 Alex Cooper, who's the call her daddy.

01:11:18.000 Yes.

01:11:19.000 She's the 31 year old host of the call her daddy podcast.

01:11:22.000 And Alex Earl, who I've never heard about, 25 year old internet star.

01:11:25.000 That's shocking that you've never heard about her.

01:11:27.000 So they're beefing.

01:11:28.000 Yes. 0.91

01:11:29.000 And you said that this got some of the heat off Sabrina Carpenter.

01:11:32.000 Yes. 0.98

01:11:33.000 What is the beef about?

01:11:34.000 Like Monday morning.

01:11:34.000 Coachella was Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

01:11:36.000 Monday morning.

01:11:37.000 So, Alex Cooper is called her daddy.

01:11:40.000 She is the opposite of everything that we have wanted to discuss in this show. 0.95

01:11:45.000 Very pro abortion, very radical. 1.00

01:11:46.000 Very crass. 1.00

01:11:47.000 Yeah, she is something.

01:11:50.000 But she signed Alex Earl, who is like the biggest influencer in the world right now.

01:11:57.000 She is the cream of the crop.

01:12:00.000 The girl in the red dress, if you're looking on the screen.

01:12:02.000 And everyone loves her.

01:12:03.000 She's 25, I think you said.

01:12:05.000 She signed Alex Earl to her.

01:12:08.000 Network at Call Her Daddy.

01:12:09.000 Then they had a major falling out.

01:12:11.000 Alex Cooper posted a video on Monday saying, Alex, make a video saying exactly what happened between us, and we'll see what the public decides whose side they're on.

01:12:22.000 Because everyone that speculated that it's all financial, Alex's dad was her manager and canceled the contract between the two of them.

01:12:29.000 But what is interesting and how this does circle back is Alex Earl's dad is married to a woman named Ashley Dupree, who was a part of a prostitution scandal, and I think.

01:12:39.000 2008 with the New York mayor Eric Spritzer.

01:12:42.000 Does anyone remember what I'm talking about?

01:12:44.000 Uh, there was an Elliot Spitzer, yes, yes, him.

01:12:48.000 He oh, he had a prostitution, yeah. 0.56

01:12:51.000 I think it was like a ten thousand dollar an hour madam that he got in trouble with.

01:12:55.000 Well, this is Alex Earl's stepmom now.

01:12:58.000 Oh, wow.

01:12:59.000 Well, and everybody loves this.

01:13:01.000 Is she like Alex Cooper where she's with crass and she's less crass, but she is very party girl, drinking a lot, going out with her friends. 0.52

01:13:10.000 She then she went on dancing with the stars.

01:13:12.000 And she's kind of settling into more of a normal life.

01:13:14.000 She was dating a football player, and now I think she's seeing more.

01:13:18.000 Taylor Kelsey's influence spreads.

01:13:20.000 Yes, not Alex Cooper. 0.96

01:13:22.000 No dumb questions.

01:13:23.000 Tell us what you think of this. 0.73

01:13:24.000 You guys seem to love it, so we're going to probably do it again.

01:13:31.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 16, 2026

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