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00:01:09.000All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:12.000I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this show, joined by Mikey McCoy, who is the chief of staff of Turning Point, and Joe Bob, Ty Lafy.
00:02:39.000I mean, when, you know, when I heard that that was a, you know, a beautiful speech that he gave at Charlie's memorial, which is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in American history, the memorial.
00:03:15.000One doctor from Oxford was Dr. Andrew Doyle, and then a professor of Professor Peter Bogozian, who wrote the book, How to Have Difficult Conversations and Almost Impossible Conversations.
00:04:27.000But today, I mean, I have to admit, the police at Berkeley, they did a good job.
00:04:33.000But however, they still did not allow, and they allowed these domestic terrorists, because that's what they are.
00:04:41.000You're trying to scare people and intimidate them with tear gas, with things that sound like gunfire, with, you know, rattling and preventing people from entering and intimidation.
00:05:06.000So here we have the scariest moment was, oh, thankfully, we got in there three hours early so that we didn't have to be confronted by that.
00:05:14.000But how about the kids, the courageous turning point USA Berkeley kids who still went despite all the tear gas and these leftist lunatics who are violently, I mean, talk about, here's what happened outside.
00:05:29.000You got agitators, you have their, they're screaming, they have very disgusting signs, despicable signs about Charlie Kirk that I won't even repeat.
00:05:38.000And then you have, you know, and then they're yelling and intimidating and fighting and violence and tear gas.
00:05:45.000And inside, you have people talking about how much they love America, family, God, and how much they love freedom of speech.
00:05:53.000And they are the anti-fascists calling us fascists.
00:05:57.000And I would just say to your listeners, I think we all know who the real fascists are.
00:06:01.000Fascists are the ones that stop conversation, that don't want dialogue, that are using, you know, violence to suppress other people's liberties.
00:06:27.000If we are going to have a vibrant society and continue to be the largest economy, the most technologically advanced society in the world, we must protect free speech and debate.
00:06:36.000We cannot afford to continue people having beliefs persist that are not subject to facts or logic or empirical evidence.
00:06:47.000And anyone who presents empirical evidence to the contrary gets shut down, censored, and subject to violence on the university campus.
00:07:02.000They want us to keep us from doing these events.
00:07:04.000And I'm so glad guys like you and Joe Bob still have the courage to go do them and our students, our brave staff.
00:07:10.000How has this event and the aftermath and all the violence that we saw, how has this personally impacted you, Rob?
00:07:17.000Has it changed your view on things at all?
00:07:20.000Well, it made me throw out the script and just talk about the emotion of the moment and to really to meet these courageous students at Berkeley who had the courage to show up and risk themselves and to risk their bodily harm to attend this event, to express their freedom.
00:07:44.000Because freedom of speech, Andrew, as you know, it's not just the ability for someone to say and express their point of view.
00:07:51.000And free speech is all speech, not just the speech that the government likes or that the regents or the academics, the leftist academics of Cal Berkeley like.
00:08:02.000And if it means anything, it also means the right to hear somebody else's free speech.
00:08:09.000If we silence free speech, you're also not just silencing the speaker, you're also silencing the rights of the listener.
00:08:16.000And that's something that is really important.
00:08:20.000At one point yesterday, the Berkeley police, you know, ran into our room where we were in the green room, and they just went right by us, didn't say hi or anything.
00:08:30.000And it was a frightening little moment.
00:08:33.000And they went right into the electrical room and looked up because they were thinking that maybe people could get through that way.
00:08:38.000And I asked them and I said to the Berkeley police officers, I said, can you help the people come in?
00:08:46.000We could have sold it out 6,000 tickets.
00:08:48.000We had to stop at 2,000 because that's all the leftists, anti-free speech academics and faculty and board of regents would let us have.
00:09:00.000And they still allowed these leftists, the liberals, illegally able to get tickets, knowing so as to prevent those seats from being filled.
00:09:12.000And maybe, Joe Bob, you have some on that as well.
00:09:15.000But what they did two weeks before the event, they made us switch over to the school's ticketing system.
00:09:19.000They open up the ticketing knowing that all the agitators and protesters are alerted to that so they can scoop up tickets, leave the seats empty.
00:09:27.000We had thousands of people that actually were still in line or wanted to get in line that ultimately scattered when the car started backfiring and the bombs started going off and the fireworks.
00:09:36.000And so they were intentionally sabotaging this event.
00:09:40.000Well, yeah, and also too, just a 30,000-foot view, the idea that you're going to get tickets and then not show up is like comical.
00:09:49.000What better way to say, hey, my ideas suck and I don't want to defend them to not actually show up to the event that you got tickets for and just leave the seats empty?
00:09:57.000Well, and we had, just so you know, what we usually do is we have a big line of standbys, Rob, where if people don't show up and claim their tickets, the standby line then gets an opportunity to come fill those seats.
00:10:08.000And we had thousands that wanted to hear from you and Frank Turek and Peter Bogozian.
00:10:14.000I mean, you know, this is Deep Blue Berkeley, and there was thousands, and they cannot let that visual get out into the world.
00:10:29.000This is Andrew Colvett, executive producer of The Charlie Kirk Show.
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00:11:51.000And Mikey, tell us, give us your POV on all this.
00:11:55.000Yeah, well, first off, it's been two months since Utah.
00:11:59.000And I just, this is the left in their proclivity for violence time and again.
00:12:04.000And that two months after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, you're going to show up at a turning point USA event, threaten our attendees, attack our attendees, spit in the face of old ladies coming to peacefully gather at this event to listen to Dr. Frank Turik and Rob Schneider, who are very threatening people.
00:12:24.000And so we need the full battalions of Antifa to come out to stop this.
00:12:28.000But then all the while while this is happening, we knew this event was coming up.
00:12:32.000Gavin Newsom knew this event was coming up, but he's out in Brazil LARPing as the president of the United States and also just pretending to be something he's not.
00:12:41.000And I'm supposed to believe that Gavin Newsom just turned a blind eye to Antifa.
00:12:47.000This is the same Gavin Newsom that stopped ICE agents and federal agents from coming into California, but can't stop Antifa from attacking our attendees at our event.
00:13:43.000These are people at a university and they have their rights.
00:13:47.000And these rights, their civil rights are being impeded when you are preventing them from doing their expression of free speech, which is the ability to not just talk, but to hear.
00:14:01.000And that is a blatant, a blatant violation of civil rights violation.
00:14:06.000And somebody needs to be held accountable.
00:14:17.000And that's what I was so humbled when I was at university with Charlie, because he was there for the love of these kids because he knew where the future was.
00:14:29.000He knew that if we lose these kids, we lose everything.
00:14:35.000And so while the left wants to silence us, it just makes us, I mean, look at all the publicity from yesterday.
00:14:42.000I think it's pretty obvious to anybody who is not, you know, in a political echo chamber of MSNBC and the illiberal left who the real fascists are.
00:14:54.000We love America and the love of country.
00:14:57.000And they try to, you know, to group us into some sort of weird, you know, nationalistic negativity.
00:15:03.000Well, nationalism in its expansion is negative.
00:15:07.000But nationalism, when your country is under threat, is necessary.
00:15:12.000We have to love our country and protect our country.
00:15:14.000So in that sense, this is a healthy nationalism and supporting our kids, young people, to be able to express themselves and to hear opposing viewpoints.
00:15:25.000And the University of Berkeley has proven themselves to be the shamefully anti-free speech.
00:15:32.000And for the university that really spoke to and started the university free speech movement for all speech, not just, they specifically said not left or right, but for all speech.
00:15:44.000It is an absolute shame on that university.
00:15:47.000And historians will look back at this moment as the most shameful moment in the history of the University of Berkeley.
00:16:28.000You're a busy man, but thank you again for your courage, your bravery, your willingness to step forward and serve the country, to serve our students and to serve Turning Point USA.
00:16:36.000You're a good man and a great patriot.
00:16:40.000And I will tell you that, like, it really was that empty chair next to me broke my heart.
00:16:46.000And I want to send my love out to Erica and to all the people at Turning Point USA, where it will always feel like it's Wednesday and the day that Charlie passed.
00:16:58.000So two months later, it really filled me with a conviction for love of country, but it really filled me with the Holy Spirit that and all that, the pressure and all the tension and the love of the people in that room and the love for Charlie.
00:17:16.000And I compared it to, and rightfully so, for these young people, their experience is like Martin Luther King was killed and gave his life fighting for sanitation workers so that they could have a decent living, so they were able to be able to, you know, take care of their families in a way where it was decent.
00:17:36.000And Charlie Kirk wanted children, wanted young minds to be able to unlock themselves from this academia that was force-feeding them to be advocates to an illiberal policy that was anti-American, anti-Western civilization.
00:17:55.000And we have to continue to expand freedom and to remind people how precious this experiment in freedom is.
00:18:03.000And Charlie knew that better than anybody.
00:18:05.000He was a living, breathing, brilliant modern-day founding father.
00:18:10.000And I'm so glad that I was able to tell him that before he passed.
00:18:15.000And that missing chair, that empty chair, for me, it'll always be Wednesday as well.
00:18:20.000So I want to send love out to everybody and all those wonderful kids who attended the other day and everybody at Turning Point USA.
00:18:26.000God bless you and thank you for the honor of having me there.
00:19:45.000When I started with U.S. Capitol Police, there were zero, as in no persons of color and no women in leadership positions.
00:19:56.000I wanted to be a change agent, not only for my organization, but for the profession.
00:20:03.000I didn't want any women to have to have the experiences that I had when I was oftentimes sitting in a room that was occupied by only white men.
00:20:25.000There were not enough black, Indigenous, trans police officers on site, and therefore they were upset about it, and therefore that's why they rioted.
00:21:06.000So it really is like an institutional thing.
00:21:08.000We talked a little bit about the UC Davis attack when they broke all the windows.
00:21:13.000And yesterday on Turning Point Tonight, we lit up Gary May, who's the chancellor over there, who before that event put out a video saying, hey, by the way, I know we all hate these people, but we're legally obligated to have them on campus.
00:21:29.000What would have been a correct response is, hey, by the way, we uphold the culture of free speech at this university.
00:21:35.000He didn't need to say we agreed with them.
00:21:37.000He didn't need to say anything other than this is going to happen, but instead said, all of you people that are, your feelings are hurt that these people are here, I agree with you.
00:21:46.000And unfortunately, my hands are tied by the law and I have to let them speak.
00:21:50.000This happens every single time we go to a UC school.
00:24:37.000Okay, we'll give you 150 standby tickets.
00:24:40.000We're like, well, you do realize this venue, you know, accommodates 2,000 plus people, and there's 6,000 people that want to come that we have on the books.
00:24:50.000And that's just who we have on the books.
00:24:51.000We have way more, thousands more that wanted to come on top of that.
00:24:54.000So we knew the games they were going to play.
00:24:56.000Day of, they brought in the entire police squad.
00:25:00.000Not just their campus police, but they contracted other police, other security.
00:25:04.000They blocked off the entire quad right in front of the entrance of the theater.
00:25:10.000And they had four entrances that they were going to use.
00:25:15.000But they decided to go with one, one entrance, which created a V-shaped funnel to get into the theater.
00:25:39.000And by the way, every other tour stop where they've done this, they've always put the free speech zone away where they cannot obstruct the attendees.
00:26:22.000Because here's the thing: standby people and our perspective, all attendees that wanted to get in, they weren't ushered in until the police took over.
00:26:32.000Once it started to get a little chaotic, there was violence happening when they're imitating gunshots, imitating, reenacting, essentially reenacting the assassination of Charlie.
00:26:41.000They're playing clips, and then they had a car backfiring at the end of Charlie's live recording of that day.
00:26:49.000At that point, everyone was starting to freak out because they thought it was gunshots.
00:27:41.000I mean, we always say big government sucks around here.
00:27:44.000The college administrations and institutions as a whole are so bureaucratic that they don't even know who is their boss.
00:27:52.000When you're at this event, there are literally so many staffers and policemen that if you go to them, you say, who's calling the shots here?
00:29:02.000Well, so I'm going to bring in Andrew Cipher, who's our great vice president of field ops at Turning Point USA for this part, Allie, because I'm not going to, I'm just going to say, why don't you, you do it?
00:29:14.000Because the timeline of this, I think, will play into some larger conversations.
00:29:19.000So tell us about an event, Cypher, that we just couldn't.
00:29:43.000They want to continue the movement that we're seeing on these college campuses.
00:29:47.000These tour stops are exploding in every way.
00:29:52.000And in fact, so we just got off the phone and we just finalized a plan to have two more fun events.
00:29:58.000They're not part of the official tour, but we're going to just keep in the energy and momentum as long as we have for the remainder of the semester.
00:30:04.000One's going to be at George Washington University with a man that Charlie loved.
00:30:55.000So Allie, you have, we just did two events.
00:30:58.000This magician over here, one is in a week and one is in a month.
00:31:02.000And I think that's interesting because a little bit of controversy erupted on social media about the UVU event.
00:31:10.000And you kind of waded into that debate about how long out we plan these events.
00:31:14.000And this is the guy that is instrumental in helping plan so many of them.
00:31:18.000He has a whole big team, but sometimes these things come together months in advance.
00:31:21.000Sometimes they come through in a week.
00:31:24.000And so you have been a part of that conversation.
00:31:27.000Yeah, it was just, it was bothering me.
00:31:28.000And I never claimed to have any like secret knowledge or insight.
00:31:32.000I just had the information that I had as someone who has been on campus with Charlie before, Auburn in 2022, and then on campus is without Charlie too.
00:31:41.000And I just know from experience that these things can come together at the last minute.
00:31:46.000Maybe not always, as you guys could say.
00:32:22.000But that just happened to be how a lot of these events in my experience came together.
00:32:27.000So to say that there was something nefarious because UVU was booked last minute just didn't track with me.
00:32:32.000Well, I mean, just so everybody's aware, especially anything with Charlie connected to it, like Charlie is the definition of controlled chaos, and he's constantly pushing the team to do more and cram more events in.
00:32:45.000Joe Bob, you're getting the call like late, like, hey, you got to open this event like tomorrow, by the way.
00:33:07.000Like, oh, okay, the little advanced, and we're just like, it's pure controlled chaos.
00:33:11.000And your events team, well, it's not the events team.
00:33:14.000This is another, I think people don't understand our events team for like conferences and big like conventions and multi-day thing is completely different than our field team, which plans the campus stuff.
00:33:28.000Yeah, and people need to realize when you're working on campus, the reason why we separate the two, we have a tourist team and then we have an events team is because working with schools, as we've shared with you, it's a whole different layer of bureaucracy and policies you have to abide by.
00:33:43.000As Allie said, she's like, I didn't even know what school she was going to.
00:33:46.000We probably didn't even know what school she was going to.
00:33:48.000We just wanted to make sure she was good for the tour.
00:33:50.000And then we had to go present all these names to the schools and say, hey, when works for you, what availability do you have for the largest school rooms you have on campus?
00:33:58.000And when it comes to these campuses, you know, sports are given, athletics are given that first priority, then academia, and then student groups are given third, you know, we're third in line to be able to get these.
00:34:11.000We're lowest on the pecking order to reserve our space at these campuses.
00:34:14.000So oftentimes you're like, well, we want to event this size, but we have to wait for which school is going to come through with the goods.
00:34:22.000Right now, in Ukraine, elderly Jews are trapped in unbearable poverty.
00:34:27.000Galena is a 96-year-old Holocaust survivor who has spent her entire life in the same village.
00:34:32.000She's sick, alone, and facing another bitterly cold winter.
00:34:36.000Today, like every day, she must decide whether to spend what little money she has on food, medication, or heating.
00:35:59.000details later yeah we know we know that we have all the yeah exactly And by the way, don't let perfect be the enemy of good and don't let perfection get in the way because like at the end of the day, we have multiple venues at the halftime show that are open and want to work with us and we're kind of making last determinations on that.
00:36:17.000We have lots of talent that wants to work with us and we're making final determinations on that.
00:36:21.000And that's just the way events get planned.
00:36:24.000If you force yourself to have all the I's dotted and the T's crossed before you even start Allie, you're never going to get started.
00:36:35.000I love that when someone has a creative idea, when people say, let's see how we can make it happen, instead of, well, here's why that's not going to work.
00:36:43.000As someone who like has a lot of ideas myself, my favorite people are the people around me who are like, yes, let's see what we can do.
00:36:50.000And it sounds to me like Charlie, you know, filled his life with people like that.
00:36:54.000I was also looking back at my text with my assistant from 2022 when I was speaking at Auburn, which was such a fun time.
00:37:03.000On March 22nd, my assistant texted me and said, I am on a call today to talk about location for Auburn, the time for Auburn, and the subjects for Auburn.
00:37:14.000So literally a week in advance, we were putting things together and figuring out what are we going to talk about and when.
00:37:20.000So again, in all of my experiences with Turning Point, everything has been excellent.
00:37:24.000Everything has been organized and good, but it's a little last minute sometimes.
00:37:49.000So this would be high school numbers, recruitment tablings, over 3,400, chapter meetings, over 3,200 chapter meetings, 600 plus events on high schools.
00:38:35.000We put in our biggest production value and our biggest investment into that.
00:38:39.000You're going to have the biggest audiences.
00:38:40.000But what people don't see is that day in and day out, we're going to do nearly 1,200 campus events this fall alone on college and high school campuses.
00:38:51.000Many of which Allie has been to, the ones I teased.
00:38:55.000And these are not just small little, you know, talking with 10, 15 kids.
00:38:59.000These are events on the regular where we're bringing in 500 plus students to hear from Tom Holman and other big speakers of the administration and local pundits.
00:39:09.000And so, and a lot of this, what's unique about Turning Point is it's not a top-down organizational structure.
00:39:31.000You've seen the reaction from UC Berkeley.
00:39:33.000We just had Rob Schneider, comedian actor, who was there at the event.
00:39:37.000Joe Bobby sitting to my left was there at the event.
00:39:39.000When you, as somebody that goes and speaks on college campuses with us and you see this kind of craziness, what's going through your head?
00:39:46.000Man, oh man, I was just talking to Frank Turek about this and just how sad the whole thing was and how there's probably going to be a whole case about this, like a civil rights conflict that went on here just because UC Berkeley didn't uphold their end of the contract to allow this to go on and to take the right measures.
00:40:04.000And so to me, that is what is even more frightening to me.
00:40:08.000It's not only that we've got these agitators who are very violent and pro-death and mocking Charlie's murder, just disgusting, but also that the people who are put in place to protect free speech and to protect people like me who say things that are considered controversial may not have my back and may not have the backs of the turning point students or the people in attendance.
00:40:41.000Oh, well, I think that UC Berkeley, I think that their funding should be suspended.
00:40:45.000I mean, they get a lot of money from the government.
00:40:48.000And I would love to see the Trump administration go after universities like this that don't uphold a commitment to free speech, that violate the First Amendment rights of the attendees and of the speakers there.
00:40:59.000Basically, you know, it's a heckler's veto.
00:41:01.000All of the people who are protesting, they're the ones who get to shut down speech when the university said, no, we're going to protect and allow this event.
00:41:10.000No, there should be consequences for that, not rewards for that.
00:41:14.000And they need to, these universities need to be held accountable.
00:41:17.000And these police officers also need to be held accountable for purposely failing to do their jobs.
00:41:24.000So, Cypher, I want to bring you into this with Allie here because, I mean, you said something to me, and I don't mean to put you on the spot, so feel free to push back.
00:41:33.000But you said when you heard those, the car backfire, and all your staff that was there on, a lot of you were there at UVU.
00:41:42.000What goes through your mind when that happens?
00:41:46.000When you hear what sounds like a gunshot go off?
00:41:49.000Now, keep in mind, the backfiring happened outside the perimeter of security.
00:42:02.000And then there's hundreds of protesters, many of which are on the shoulders of other protesters.
00:42:09.000So you can't see beyond the protesters and they're screaming and the vile things they're saying.
00:42:13.000You can't even see who they are, by the way, because they're all covered up.
00:42:16.000And so when you're hearing that backfiring, which sounded identical to the same pop that we heard at University, Utah Valley University, I looked around and I saw many of my staff who were there at the first on September 10th, many of which just went into a state of paralysis.
00:42:37.000I have to admit, even myself, the first time it happened, I remained lucid.