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00:01:45.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:54.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:12.000I first just want to say thank you to Dream City for continually hosting this.
00:02:15.000You all have a lot to do, and to be here is a big deal.
00:02:18.000And this is growing to churches all across the country.
00:02:21.000We have our good friend John Randall here from Calvary Chapel, San Juan Capistrano, who and we have pastors from all over the valley here, by the way.
00:02:29.000This is spreading, and the idea of the church taking biblical stands in a chaotic and troubling time is more important than ever before.
00:02:38.000You know, I do want to make sure I brag, though, on our project that we're working together up in Glendale.
00:02:44.000I had somebody that kind of tracked me down in a grocery store.
00:02:47.000They kept on following me through aisles, like, what does this person want?
00:02:50.000And they wanted to tell me that they were taking their kid out of the Scottsdale Unified School District, and at the soonest moment possible, they're going to enroll them at Dream City Christian, a Turning Point Academy.
00:03:04.000And it was a very surprise when I get hunted down like that.
00:03:08.000It's very, it's much better than what sometimes happens.
00:03:12.000And speaking of that, I'm going, we're doing our college campus tour soon, so prayers are very much appreciated.
00:03:18.000I think a week from tonight, I'll be at University of Texas Austin, which if you know anything about UT Austin, it's not exactly friendly territory.
00:03:25.000So I want to talk about a couple things that we're doing at Turning Point, but also for those of you that are new here, welcome.
00:03:31.000We do this every single month, as Angel mentioned, our last one of the year, because December is a very busy year.
00:03:56.000But if you're new here and you're not really sure what you expect, tonight is about a couple things.
00:04:00.000The theme verse of us coming together tonight is Jeremiah 29:7, where the Lord is speaking and he says, Demand the welfare of the nation that you are in, because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
00:04:12.000We are called as Christians to reject apathy and cynicism.
00:04:16.000We are called as Christians to care about what happens within our city gates, within the boundaries of our nation.
00:04:23.000We are called to care about the most vulnerable, the least of these in our society.
00:04:28.000We're called to pray for our leaders, as it says in 1 Timothy.
00:04:31.000And we're also called as Christians to be aware of what is happening.
00:04:34.000You know, far too often I hear Christians where they say, you know, I just don't have time.
00:04:38.000The news is too confusing and I can't make sense of what's happening.
00:04:42.000Well, that's what tonight is hopefully able to compress so much into one night so you can walk away better informed from a biblical perspective of what is happening nationally and in the state of Arizona.
00:04:53.000And it's not even about politics, by the way.
00:04:55.000It's about something much more important.
00:04:57.000It's biblical, not political, what we do tonight.
00:05:00.000It's about eternal truths that we are focusing on.
00:05:04.000And the stories that come out of Freedom Night are just extraordinary.
00:05:09.000You know, we hear about people that thought that they were completely alone.
00:05:13.000They come to tonight and they get filled up, they get energized, and they get really motivated to do meaningful things here in the Valley and across the state of Arizona.
00:05:22.000And so, a couple things I want to mention: first of all, we have a project at Turning Point USA that we've been working on for about nine months.
00:06:02.000You can have your own views about immigration, all that.
00:06:04.000This is something much deeper than that.
00:06:07.000And so we felt from Turning Point USA, it was imperative, since we being here at a border state, to factually tell the story of what's happening on the southern border.
00:06:16.000And so we've been working on this project for nine months.
00:06:19.000I went down to Yuma and I saw the firsthand things that are so sad and so terrible.
00:06:24.000And so we have a new series coming out called Border Battle.
00:08:03.000We have our campus tour, our high school tour, but I wouldn't be able to live with myself if we did not tell the story of the border living in a border state, truly.
00:08:11.000And we talk about, I don't even have to say it here.
00:08:14.000There's some graphic stuff in there that from an adult eyes, if you feel your kids are mature enough to see it, it's a wake-up call.
00:08:22.000The exploitation, the sex trade, it is so unspeakable, and we have to fix it.
00:08:27.000One other story I want to focus on about the need to fight early, because I know so many of you here tonight are very worried about the future that your children are entering.
00:08:37.000There's a story that has really disturbed me over the last couple of days.
00:08:39.000It's not here in Arizona, but it very well could be soon.
00:08:42.000And it's around this theme of what happens when you do not intervene with truth early because you're afraid of offending somebody.
00:08:48.000I don't know if you've been following the story of the volleyball girls team, the girls' volleyball team in Vermont.
00:08:55.000So there is an all-girl volleyball team in Vermont where an individual who claimed to be a woman, a man who thinks he's a woman, comes and says, I want to participate on this volleyball team.
00:09:07.000Vermont, being Vermont, they said, sure, why not?
00:09:12.000The individual then was granted access to the locker room to change alongside other girls, and people said nothing, right?
00:09:19.000Or, you know, just kind of little musings or rumblings.
00:09:22.000Well, then the man who thinks he's a woman started to say somewhat derogatory and kind of offensive things to the other young ladies on the volleyball team, making the young ladies uncomfortable, teenage girls, by the way.
00:09:33.000So they report this to the coach and to the leaders of the school, saying, Hey, we're not trying to be intolerant here.
00:09:40.000We're not trying to be mean, but we're really not comfortable because he's saying some rather offensive things and we don't like changing around this individual.
00:09:49.000And so what ended up happening is now that girls' volleyball team is being disciplined for being intolerant for not wanting to forcibly change around another male in the high school.
00:10:01.000Now, this is a real, you could check it out yourself.
00:10:03.000It's a huge story where they are facing disciplinary action for what basically they're describing as being bigoted towards a trans person.
00:10:14.000And isn't that interesting how this marks in sequential steps?
00:10:18.000Where first they say, hey, you must tolerate something, then you must accept something, then you must celebrate that something, and then you must participate in that something.
00:10:30.000Because some people say, oh, come on, what's the big deal of just tolerating the fact that men can participate in female sports?
00:10:36.000Well, despite the fact that it is not fair and it's cheating and it's wrong, that aside, now all of a sudden, the new standard being set in Vermont, this is what happens when you do not fight early for truth, when you're afraid of people being offended by what you have to say, is the new standard that is being set is that you could very well face disciplinary action.
00:10:56.000You could get in trouble if you dare not want to change around another man as a woman, as an athlete in Vermont.
00:11:04.000And I know what a lot of you are probably thinking.
00:11:06.000You're probably thinking, where are the adult men in this community that are allowing this to happen?
00:11:35.000C.S. Lewis, one of the great authors of all time, definitely one of the greatest in the 20th century, of a society of men without chests, without courage.
00:11:43.000Where we look around and we say, well, you know, I don't, I want to be tolerant.
00:11:47.000And this is where we as Christians have to be prayerful, but also very wise, which is if you love God, you must hate evil.
00:12:07.000That you are not allowed to now be on a volleyball team as a woman if you do not want to share the locker room with a man who makes you feel uncomfortable.
00:12:14.000All to not want to offend a single person.
00:12:17.000That's what happens when the strong do not protect the young.
00:12:21.000When the adults do not come in and set moral standards and moral boundaries.
00:12:25.000If you ask me, that's much more important than politics.
00:12:28.000That's much more important than red and blue and all that stuff.
00:12:32.000It's a question of the moral compass of a society.
00:12:34.000And there's just one thing, and it actually ties in beautifully to what Seth and I are going to talk about tonight.
00:12:39.000You can judge a society based on what people with strength do or do not do to protect those of people.
00:12:47.000You could call them weak, but that sounds insulting.
00:12:49.000People that are not as strong, people that are not as big, people that are as powerful.
00:12:53.000Because a nation that says it doesn't matter if we abort a million lives every single year, why on earth would they then care about a teenager that has to do something that makes them uncomfortable?
00:13:01.000It's the same sort of moral slide that allows that to happen.
00:13:05.000But we're going to address that head-on tonight.
00:13:07.000And I could say collectively, we're not going to put up with it here in Scottsdale.
00:13:11.000We're not going to put up with it here in the state of Arizona.
00:13:13.000We're not going to allow our children to be taken advantage of.
00:13:30.000He's doing an entire tour around the issue of abortion.
00:13:35.000I don't like giving trigger warnings, but I know that there's people that are here that probably don't even know what you're about to experience.
00:13:42.000If you hear something and it offends you, try to just anchor yourself in that seat to the end of the program tonight.
00:13:48.000Because I think God has something in store for you to challenge maybe your worldview about what is abortion, what is a human being, and what, how should we talk about this issue?
00:13:57.000Because if you're like me, I am exhausted with the political advertising around abortion in this state.
00:14:38.000Well, firstly, let me just say, you guys know this already, but just as a reminder, Charlie Kirk is probably one of the most outspoken conservative pundits who regularly addresses the issue of life and the plight of the unborn as frequently as he can on his program.
00:14:52.000And if I could bottle the intellectual, spiritual, and moral courage and clarity of Charlie Kirk and inject it like a booster shot into the arms of American pastors, I could end abortion in this country in one year.
00:15:14.000Well, to your question, brother, and thank you so much for this privileged opportunity.
00:15:18.000Charlie and Turning Point Faith are sponsoring a nationwide church tour I'm doing right now called the White Rose Resistance National Life Tour.
00:15:24.000And the White Rose Resistance is the name of my new organization.
00:15:28.000We'd love to give you guys a hug and connect afterwards.
00:15:30.000So there really is no option for a Christian to be pro-choice or pro-abortion for one simple reason.
00:15:36.000Your Savior entered human history in a uterus to redeem mankind from their sins.
00:15:41.000Jesus Christ is the greatest former fetus to have ever existed who actually chose to identify with you at your most vulnerable stage, the prenatal stage.
00:15:52.000And one more thing from the scriptures, Charlie.
00:15:54.000I know, knit together, fearfully and wonderfully made.
00:15:59.000In Luke 1, it says that the prenatal John the Baptist leaps in the womb.
00:16:04.000Remember, because he recognizes his prenatal deity, Savior, in Mary's womb, in the same room.
00:16:09.000And because Christ is fully God and fully human at the moment of conception and God knits life together in the womb, it means that the prenatal Jesus is knitting himself together in the womb while he knits the prenatal John the Baptist together in the womb while he knits himself together in a womb that he once knit together when Mary was in the womb of her mother.
00:16:26.000Christianity is called the incarnation.
00:17:27.000So, but Seth, you know, some pastors would say it's too controversial of an issue, and you're not being very nice.
00:17:35.000So, I've been a pro-life activist since I was a fetus, Charlie.
00:17:41.000And I'm actually only half joking, brothers and sisters.
00:17:44.000You see, my mother was the executive director of a pregnancy resource center in the late 1980s, early 1990s while pregnant with me.
00:17:52.000And she only stepped down from directing that pregnancy center right across the street from Azusa Pacific University when she gave birth to me.
00:17:58.000And I've been reliably informed by Fauci and Francis Collins in the Fall of the Science tyrants.
00:18:02.000I've been reliably informed that the body in her body is just her body.
00:18:08.000Therefore, according to the law of transitive property, the babies my mother was saving as the director of a pregnancy resource center were babies I was saving because I was part of her body.
00:18:54.000You may have an opportunity to share the gospel in a way to that broken, hurting man or woman such that they could experience forgiveness and healing and redemption and then be used to be a voice against this culture of death because they've been there and they can say, don't do what I did.
00:19:13.000And so for people to say, oh, it's too controversial, we're not going to address it.
00:19:17.000You're actually causing more harm in your congregation.
00:19:20.000And you're giving the enemy of our soul, Satan himself, a foothold, a stronghold in your congregation to keep men without chests and to keep the hurting women silent who could be leading others into freedom.
00:20:25.000I will play the pro-abortion devil's advocate.
00:20:28.000But, Seth, the fetus is so small and therefore small, not a lot of moral worth.
00:20:34.000So, why do you want to protect something so small?
00:20:36.000Yeah, well, men are generally larger than women, but that doesn't mean that men have more rights than women.
00:20:42.000It's not like Shaquille O'Neal has any more rights than Barbara Streisand, right?
00:20:46.000Our dignity and rights don't come from our size.
00:20:49.000But notice what the pro-abortion arguments always do: they point out a difference between the unborn and the born, and then they insert or inject moral value into those differences.
00:21:02.000So, the differences, Charlie, just referred to size, level of development, environment or location, and degree of dependency.
00:21:09.000Now, notice today, most pro-abortion advocates will not argue that the unborn is not biologically human.
00:21:16.000That harkens back to like 30 years ago.
00:21:18.000They don't really make those arguments anymore.
00:21:20.000They're fully willing to admit that it is a human being, but they say, But look, it's so different than us.
00:21:25.000So, from a 30 or 60,000-foot view, you should just be aware of the fact that this is no different than the arguments to kill the Jews and black men in this country by saying, Well, look, they're so different than us.
00:21:34.000You see, our dignity and rights don't come from our cognitive abilities, our accidental properties, or our functions, they come from our human nature.
00:21:42.000And if you don't ground human rights in the only thing we have in common, we're all human beings, you leave it to the political class and the elite class to define which categories or cognitive abilities must be met to meet their litmus test for personhood.
00:21:59.000I mean, look at it, it can't feel pain, it's not viable, it doesn't aware that it's existing, it's not self-aware, doesn't have any desires.
00:22:07.000And so, because these are sort of developmental markers on the continuum of human development, they say if you don't have this level of development or function, you're not a person with rights.
00:22:16.000But it's very easy to debunk all these arguments if you understand the undergirding worldview that they're operating off of.
00:22:22.000And that undergirding worldview is actually the same worldview that animates transgenderism today.
00:22:27.000And it's a worldview, or let's call it a religion, called body self-dualism or Gnostic dualism, which, by the way, the church Charlie declared a heresy centuries ago.
00:22:36.000So, Gnostic dualism or body self-dual dualism is this idea that the real person is not their bodies.
00:22:43.000The real person are our thoughts, our aims, our consciousness, and our desires.
00:22:49.000And so, the baby might have a human body, its heart might start beating at 21 days, it might be capable of responding to stimuli, according to experts in fetal pain, as early as about 12 weeks.
00:23:01.000It might respond to stimuli, but none of that matters because it doesn't have any desires, so it doesn't have a desire to go on living.
00:23:08.000It's not self-aware of itself, or they say it can't feel pain yet.
00:23:12.000And so, they say those are the markers that must be met before one is a person.
00:23:16.000So, here's one argument: the baby doesn't have a desire to go on living, Charlie.
00:23:55.000Whatever function they hone in on and say, the baby can't display this function right now that I demand they be able to show to me to be a person.
00:24:03.000You'll find some born person who also can't meet that litmus test for personhood.
00:24:08.000So here's what pro-abortion arguments do: is that you put in place the premises that justify your own enslavement.
00:24:15.000You put in place the premises that justify your own enslavement.
00:24:19.000Lincoln, in preparing for his debates against Stephen Douglas, would pen a little piece of paper called Fragments on Slavery in 1854.
00:24:30.000And he would use this type of reasoning in the 1858, 1859 famous Lincoln-Douglas debates.
00:24:36.000So I want to show you how these arguments are identical because you separate the dignity of the person from the fact that they're humans, which means then the Sauchies and the Francis Collins, the elite class, the Margaret Sangers, they get to decide the litmus test for personhood.
00:24:53.000So here's what, this is what Lincoln wrote.
00:25:46.000Do you see what pro-slavery arguments were doing?
00:25:48.000Rather than arguing that the black man was not a human, they were saying they're not persons because they can't currently exercise certain cognitive abilities or functions that I demand they show me in the present to meet my litmus test for personhood.
00:26:02.000And so every argument that dehumanizes the unborn by saying they don't display this cognitive ability or function that I demand they meet can always be applied to some born person outside the womb who at some point in their life will also not be able to evident that very same cognitive ability or function.
00:26:21.000So whether it was slavery arguments then or abortion arguments now, we put in place the premises that justify our own enslavement.
00:26:27.000Those who murder the unborn therefore cannot be trusted to govern the born.
00:26:32.000So the final D is degree of dependency, which is the one that most pro-lifers stumble over.
00:26:41.000It's probably the best argument, if you will, where the fetus, the baby, the human being is dependent on another, therefore you should be able to eliminate that being.
00:26:52.000But Seth, let's go a little deeper here, which is this really all is a moral argument.
00:26:58.000Every argument around this comes down to some morality.
00:27:02.000And absent the church or Christians weighing in on this topic, it is almost always going to yield in the pro-abortion direction because the secular world does not have any sort of moral standard to be able to argue abortion correctly.
00:27:18.000It will always come back down to, well, it's whatever makes me feel the best, whatever I want to do whenever I want to do it.
00:27:25.000When in Christianity, it's actually not really about your feelings or your desires.
00:27:29.000It's about serving God and doing what he commands.
00:27:33.000And so what is the morality that drives forward a million abortions a year in America?
00:27:48.000All Satan can do is invert and pervert and copycat.
00:27:52.000And obviously, the rainbow is the greatest example of this in the culture wars today.
00:27:56.000The rainbow, this sign that God's saying, I will never wipe you out by water again because of disgusting immorality that was normalized and celebrated.
00:28:04.000And then the rainbow becomes the symbol of the same type of immorality that caused God's judgment in the first place.
00:28:12.000And so, from a this, what Charlie's talking about, this detached morality that deifies ourselves into modern gods to decide who gets to live and who gets to die.
00:28:21.000This is not progressive, this is regressive.
00:28:24.000Child killing and child sacrifice goes right back to the years just following Adam and Eve.
00:28:29.000This is a very ancient practice, the belief that in sacrificing an adult, a child, a baby to the sex gods, the war gods, the weather gods, the crop gods, the sun gods, right?
00:28:40.000Means that you would receive a blessing in return and you would get to live just a little bit longer.
00:28:44.000And you see this today in the secular moral revolutionary culture.
00:28:48.000You have people that make arguments saying, Well, we need to fund abortions in poor countries, in black countries, because we have overpopulation and then too many people, it's harming the environment, Charlie, and that's causing climate change, which is making Witzela Pokeley, the Aztec sun god, really angry, right?
00:29:33.000So we're contending not against an alternative politics, brothers and sisters, but against an alternative religion, the religion of secular progressivism and its sacrament or centerpiece of abortion.
00:29:46.000Peter Kraft, the Catholic philosopher, once said that abortion is the demonic parody of the Eucharist.
00:29:53.000That's why it uses the same holy words.
00:29:59.000This is my body, but with the opposite blasphemous meaning.
00:30:06.000So our Savior says at the Final Supper, This is my body, and I break it for you.
00:30:16.000Not ironically, the culture of death says, This is my body, my choice, and I'll kill whatever's inside of my body because that serpent told me in Genesis 3: Eat the apple, do it my way, then your eyes shall be opened.
00:30:36.000The serpent says, If you eat the apple, your eyes will be opened and you'll see real systems of systemic oppression because God's holding out on you.
00:30:58.000So you need to know this about Anthony Fauci, the high priest of secular progressivism in the last two years.
00:31:03.000Fauci and Francis Collins, the disgraced NIH director, have approved funding to the University of Pittsburgh, where they kill babies in the early and late second trimester, some of those babies who were old enough to survive outside the womb.
00:31:17.000Then they take them to another wing of the same hospital at the University of Pittsburgh, and they scalp their heads off, like the Aztecs would have.
00:31:25.000By the way, Judicial Watch should expose all this.
00:31:28.000Then they insert the scalps of late trimester aborted children on the backs of lab rats, and they call these humanized mice.
00:31:37.000Then the rat grows the infant human hair that should have grown on the scalp of that baby had they not been aborted in the womb.
00:31:46.000Could show you the pictures, and they use the humanized mice to find solutions to staph infections.
00:31:51.000So, notice, guys, the baby just becomes a sacrifice on man's pursuit for eternal life.
00:31:56.000And we do this with embryonic stem cell research, fetal organ harvesting, fetal tissue research, and recently prenatal gene editing, where they screw around and poke around with the genes of babies conceived in test tubes.
00:32:07.000Because if you can edit the genes and get rid of things we don't like in the gene code, Margaret Sanger, eugenics, yes, then we can apply it on ourselves later when it's safe.
00:32:17.000And we'll edit out of our genes certain susceptibilities to diseases so we can live just a little bit longer.
00:32:24.000C.S. Lewis once said that everyone wants progress, but if you're on the wrong road, progress means doing an about turn and walking back to the right road.
00:32:34.000In that case, the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive.
00:32:39.000I want to shout out Choice's Pregnancy.
00:32:42.000They do such a great job because I think that they do such a great job.
00:32:47.000And I'm doing this before we get into the super controversial stuff.
00:32:51.000This has all just been surface-level stuff.
00:32:53.000Because we're going to go into the stuff that even pro-lifers sometimes are uncomfortable talking about, which is how do you navigate rape, incest, life of the mother.
00:33:01.000These are very serious questions, by the way, and I don't, you know, I don't expect complete agreement on every one of them because there's reasonable people can differ there on certain one of them.
00:33:10.000I certainly have my opinions, and Seth, I think we're in total alignment there.
00:33:13.000The second thing, as you were talking about, you know, the Catholic issue, I just want to say that the Catholic community here in Phoenix is some of the great pro-life warriors in Arizona.
00:33:22.000They really deserve a lot of credit, and I think it's very important to mention that.
00:33:26.000So, anyway, and I think you've seen the same, right, Seth, in pro-life circles.
00:33:30.000Okay, so let's just, there's been a lot of, let's just say, advertisements run in the state on rape, incest, life of the mother.
00:33:50.000And I meet pro-lifers a lot of the time who actually parrot the pro-abortion talking points on this.
00:33:55.000This actually may be, Charlie, the most successful propaganda weaving into the American conscious and pro-life consciousness from the other side that I've seen in recent memory, such that you have pro-life pastors saying, I oppose abortion except when the mother's going to die.
00:34:11.000Here's the thing: in these super, super minority rare cases where if the pregnancy continues, mom will die, the solution is not abortion.
00:34:20.000The solution is you induce early labor with Pitocin or you perform a cesarean section.
00:34:57.000In a 1963 booklet that actually we have a scan of, so maybe I'll send it to Charlie sometime on the show.
00:35:05.000In a 1963 Planned Parenthood booklet, they admitted what I just said.
00:35:10.000They said, abortion ends the life of a baby after it has already begun.
00:35:18.000And it is dangerous to your life and health.
00:35:23.000Planned Parenthood said that in a 1963 booklet.
00:35:27.000One year later, Mary Calderon, the medical director for Planned Parenthood, would leave Planned Parenthood and found the Sexuality Information Education Council of the United States with seed money from Hugh Hefner with a board member who ran the Kinsey Institute at Indiana University, the Alfred Kinsey demon degenerate rapist who interviewed pedophiles to get his data on the sexual activity of the American male.
00:35:47.000Let me just say one thing about if you ever want to see how sick and how dark some of this stuff goes and you want to see who actually is the architect of the perversion of children, just read a little bit of Dr. Kinsey and Judith Reisman.
00:36:03.000Yeah, he wrote a book in the 1920s called Sexuality and the Human Male.
00:37:36.000They were saying, now in states where abortion is illegal or highly, highly restricted, women are not going to be able to get miscarriage treatments, and they're not going to be able to have a baby removed from the fallopian tube in an ectopic pregnancy.
00:37:49.000And because they were arguing that that was technically the abortion surgical procedure.
00:37:54.000And since abortion is now illegal in that state, pro-lifers are trying to force pregnant women to die.
00:38:00.000And they're just going to have their babies rotting in their womb after a miscarriage.
00:38:03.000Well, no, that's an ad they're running.
00:38:09.000Guess what Planned Parenthood did right after the overturning of Roe versus Wade?
00:38:13.000They deleted a line from their website, but the internet's forever, so we found it.
00:38:16.000They deleted a line from their website that said this, verbatim.
00:38:20.000It said, treatment for ectopic pregnancy is fundamentally different than treatment for abortion.
00:38:27.000Because they were like, oh, gosh, all the pro-lifers might learn that we're actually lying and we need to strike that line from our website, which is just a Joseph Goebbels attempt of misinformation and censoring your political opponents that we saw in the Third Reich in a conversation for another time.
00:39:13.000He's a great resource and he's got a great spirit.
00:39:16.000But Seth, I want to close this portion before we get to questions here because I know we're going to get some good questions on the topic about your project, the White Rose Resistance.
00:40:41.000The Jews have been wearing the yellow star for about three years now, the final salute.
00:40:44.000They're being burned already and poisoned in cans.
00:40:47.000She starts reading it, she goes, Huh, this sounds a lot how my brother talks a lot of the time.
00:40:52.000Come to find out, the White Rose Resistance had not only been launched, but was being co-run by none other than her older brother, Hans, at 24 years old.
00:41:01.000Now, you can imagine Sophie's surprise, like, what the heck, bro?
00:41:16.000Sophie demands to join the White Rose Resistance as the youngest and the only woman.
00:41:21.000And for the rest of 1942, they stay up late writing, printing, and distributing anti-Nazi leaflets all around Germany.
00:41:28.000It was the 1942 Third Reich version of a social media campaign.
00:41:31.000Powerful, equipping information, condemning bad ideas, and asking the good people to wake up.
00:41:36.000And they take things to the next level in 1943.
00:41:40.000And on February 18th, 1943, Hans and Sophie, brother and sixth, walk onto the campus at the University of Munich during class time when the halls were quieter.
00:41:50.000And they begin to drop off piles, hundreds of these anti-Nazi leaflets all around the university.
00:41:56.000Now, you need to remember the universities, just like the clergy, had largely been dominated by the Nazi state.
00:42:01.000Sophie, in this iconic brave scene, walks to the third floor balcony of the University of Munich and she throws an entire stack of leaflets down to the atrium below.
00:42:12.000Now, what happens when you throw paper?
00:42:15.000The janitor, a committed Nazi, catches Sophie in the act, calls the Gestapo, and has him arrested on the spot.
00:42:20.000They spend the next four days in prison being brutally interrogated and physically assaulted.
00:42:25.000Because they were arrested that morning, they missed a meeting they were supposed to go to that afternoon on February 18th, 1943, with a man named Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who had been so inspired by their courage as such young resistance fighters.
00:42:42.000And it was as if God would enter that cell room in Sophie and Hans's final four days, pick them up into his hands, and condense their entire 21 and 24 years into four days.
00:42:53.000And they would speak with a level of conviction and clarity that was lost on the German pulpits.
00:42:58.000So I want to share with you one of the things Sophie said because I think Sophie is speaking prophetically to us today.
00:43:04.000They understood that Edmund Burke line that all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.
00:43:11.000And so in her final days, Sophie would explain the problem as she saw it.
00:44:39.000That sounds like something Oscar Schindler or William Wilberforce or Dietrich Bonhoeffer would write, or Frederick Douglass or Harriet Tubman, or Martin Luther King Jr.
00:44:47.000And she would say in her final moments before the Gestapo came to take her to the guillotine, she would say, How can we expect righteousness to prevail when there's hardly anyone willing to give themselves up individually to a righteous cause?
00:45:06.000She would look out her window and say, Such a fine sunny day.
00:45:13.000But what does my death matter if through us, thousands of people are awakened and stirred to action?
00:45:20.000Her bravery so disturbed her prison guards that they relaxed the rules and let Hans and Sophie meet with their parents minutes before being taken to the chopping block.
00:45:33.000And Sophie's mother would look at her doomed daughter and say, Remember Jesus, Sophie.
00:45:39.000And Sophie would respond, Yes, but you too, Mama.
00:45:43.000Her final words, according to the executioner, were, the sun still shines.
00:45:54.000They never saw the Christian army of resistance develop that they knew could bring a grinding halt to the Nazi regime.
00:46:00.000So I'm rebuilding the White Rose Resistance for this generation against our silent but far more deadly Holocaust of abortion today to accomplish the goals that Hans and Sophie dreamed of but never saw realized.
00:46:13.000And I'm promising you now, I'm a pain in the butt, a stick in the eye, and a fly in the ointment to the abortion industrial complex, the spirit of the age, and his obsession with wiping out the image of God from the earth.
00:46:27.000So if you want to connect with us about what we're building, check out the White Rose Resistance and thank you.
00:47:18.000In regards to abortion, how would you address someone who claims to be Christian, yet says that we won't truly know what God believes is right and wrong until Jesus comes back to earth?
00:47:30.000How would you address someone who claims to be Christian, yet says that we won't truly know what God believes is right and wrong until Jesus comes back to earth?
00:47:38.000Yeah, so this is an interesting argument.
00:47:40.000I think what you're getting at, we hear this a lot.
00:47:42.000Have you ever heard a pastor or Christian say something like, I speak where the Bible speaks, and I'm silent where the Bible's silent?
00:48:25.000I can still know that's wrong because I'm grounded in a Christian worldview that says man and woman has dignity and value and rights because they're created in the image of their God who entered human history in a uterus.
00:48:36.000So lots of Christians who say that, and I'll end with this, do not read the Bible, do not take it seriously and commit to eisegesis rather than exegesis.
00:48:46.000Eisegesis is when you insert your priors into the scriptures or try to find ways that it confirms your priors.
00:49:51.000It's a wonderful story about adoption, which is the heart of the gospel.
00:49:54.000Seth and Charlie, my name is Sloane Adams, and I'm actually from Austin, Texas.
00:50:00.000Charlie, first off, I just wanted to say thank you for everything that you do as a watchman on the wall for our nation.
00:50:05.000And I personally wanted to say thank you because the Lord has actually helped use you to reawaken my love for our country and the biblical foundation upon which we're built.
00:50:14.000With that said, I'm actually on staff at a church in Austin, and I have the honor and privilege of giving the message to our congregation on November 6th, the Sunday before the election.
00:50:48.000And I think you should be right off front.
00:50:50.000Should say, listen, you know, this coming Tuesday is a big day for our nation because you're the Sunday before the Tuesday of the election, right?
00:50:57.000And the Bible commands us to care about our nation.
00:51:20.000And that churches are more important than strip clubs, and we're never going to allow the church to be locked down again.
00:51:29.000And then you should just pause and say, I want every single person to have a fulfilled ballot.
00:51:35.000I'm not going to tell you what party to vote for, but I am going to ask you to pray and to fast before you make that decision of which person has the set of policies, so vote for policies over people that would be most in alignment with the natural law and biblical truth.
00:51:52.000And then I would give a call to action, which is, I don't want a single person not to fill out a ballot on Tuesday.
00:51:57.000And whatever that leads you towards or to, then so be it.
00:52:00.000But those three things are uncompromising.
00:52:03.000It is no question of biological reality, when life begins, and the church's importance and how the government crushed the church over the last couple years.
00:52:12.000And I just want to commend you and encourage you because where you're at right now is a posture of willingness, a posture of you're asking for help and curiosity.
00:52:22.000And honestly, if every pastor in America gave a sermon as simple as that the Sunday before the election, righteousness would prevail.
00:53:18.000Roussel Ukloff's majority shareholder is Hookstey G. What's Hookstay G?
00:53:22.000Hookstay G emerged from the breakup of the German chemical company known as IG Farben, a company infamous for creating a gas called Zyklon B used to poison Jews in Nazi concentration camps.
00:53:38.000So Hookstay G simply moved from creating poison to kill Jews to creating poison to kill babies.
00:53:45.000So when you hear people talk about the Nazi-esque eugenic demonic legacy of the abortion industrial complex, that's not embellishment, hyperbole.
00:53:57.000And the tour I'm doing right now that TP Faith is sponsoring is 70 minutes, 50 minutes of that entire eugenic legacy.
00:54:04.000The abortion pill, with the first regimen of the abortion pill, cuts off the hormone progesterone, the lining of the uterus breaks down and the baby starved to death.
00:54:12.000The second mifopristone and misoprostol.
00:54:15.000Misoprostol forces your uterus to have contractions.
00:54:19.000And Planned Parenthood will literally tell you, and we have multiple women who have confirmed this, sit on the toilet, don't look and flush.
00:54:25.000So the American sewage system becomes the abortion industry's disposal system.
00:54:29.000Then you have suction abortions, aspiration abortions, which just sucks limbs off.
00:54:43.000And when the white paste starts flowing, you know you got the baby's brains.
00:54:47.000And then you have induction abortions.
00:54:49.000And this is when a needle is inserted into the baby's skull or heart, injected with potassium chloride, which by the way is very similar, they use in on death row to kill inmates.
00:56:47.000You can't truly be pro-life and you haven't proven your pro-life convictions unless you're caring for all of the children not aborted.
00:56:54.000So I have to somehow prove my moral position through more than standing against the killing of the babies in the womb, but through the adopting, the raising, or the financing of children already born.
00:57:06.000If that's true, then I say then you, pro-abortion advocate, you cannot show the true courage of your pro-abortion convictions unless you're willing to abort the children.
00:58:34.000So why should it be any different on the abortion issue?
00:58:36.000We have other organizations better situated.
00:58:39.000Oh, and by the way, better funded for foster care, for adoption, for these various things than telling the pro-life movement, who has an overwhelming job description, that they have to do more than try to end abortion for their pro-life ethic to be valid.
00:58:52.000But the Christian worldview is broad and comprehensive.
00:58:56.000It demands that we love and care for all neighbors.
00:58:59.000But that doesn't mean that the operational objectives of the pro-life movement must be diverted to other social causes for our pro-life ethic to be valid.
00:59:08.000Yeah, and I also get that question a lot, and I reject the premise.
00:59:12.000I mean, every single policy that I believe in is a pro-life policy.
00:59:16.000I want a southern border so children aren't sex trafficked into my country.
00:59:21.000I want more cops on the streets so people aren't slain on the side of the street going to school.
00:59:25.000I want school choice so that children can read and not be taught critical race theory or pornographic material.
00:59:31.000I want medical mutilation to be outlawed because I don't think a 13-year-old should have to go into a surgical room because some pharmaceutical company will benefit from it.
00:59:40.000I want a booming economy because it lifts people out of poverty and gives them dignity and a chance to flourish and not be on government handouts.
00:59:46.000Every position I have is a pro-life position.
01:00:16.000Maybe I don't want those government benefits because I think that God has a better future in store for you than just staying on taxpayer subsidy and being having to be subsidized the rest of your life.
01:00:27.000So I always punch back twice as hard on that.
01:00:29.000I believe everyone here has a heart for all people made in the image of God.
01:00:33.000And we believe a free society is the best way for those people to flourish.
01:00:40.000First of all, thank you guys both for being here.
01:00:42.000I just wanted to ask: as far as the super, super rare when it comes to the mother's health, I was tricked by that as well.
01:00:52.000And I kind of held that point of view.
01:00:54.000If it was the mother's health, I couldn't force it if I were to have a wife.
01:00:58.000And it came with her, I would plead with her to give her life for the baby.
01:01:02.000But can you elaborate on the science about inducing early labor and a mother's health and when that all comes into play?
01:01:10.000Yeah, so there's been a lot of studies on abortions link to negative consequences for the mother: preterm labor and subsequent pregnancies, breast cancer, and mental health.
01:01:22.000But what you'll hear the pro-abortion side say is that there are no negative consequences for mom's health following an abortion.
01:01:28.000I don't have time to get into all the data.
01:01:30.000My friend Dr. Brent Bowles, kind of my in-house OBGYN on my podcast, Unaborted, we did a podcast, if you scroll down on my podcast, Unaborted, called Proof that Abortion is Linked to Breast Cancer, Preterm Labor, and Mental Health.
01:01:42.000And basically, he goes through every study in existence.
01:01:45.000He's very informed, OBGYN, that ever looked at the link between abortion and breast cancer, abortion, and preterm labor, abortion, and mental health.
01:01:52.000It comes down to this: the abortion industry hones in on the two or three studies of about 70 or 80 that showed that there was no negative consequence.
01:02:00.000And then they ran that as the CNN, Chirons, and headlines.
01:02:03.000It gets repeated in academia and medicinal circles, and then the CDC and ACOG, American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, they run with it and they say, debunked, follow the science.
01:02:13.000But with Roe versus Wade and Doe versus Bolton, the two Supreme Court decisions in 1973 that legalized abortion through point of birth, they said that states could ban abortion in the third trimester unless a failure to get a third trimester abortion endangered the mother's life or health.
01:02:32.000And then they defined health so broadly you could drive a Mac truck through it.
01:02:38.000So, then in a 1981 congressional subcommittee hearing, they were forced to define what they meant by the word health.
01:02:45.000And they said health can refer to familial, emotional, basically anything that you wanted to define it as to justify that third trimester.
01:03:05.000And guess who gets to define whether the mother's definition of health is the appropriate legal definition to meet the standard for a third trimester abortion?
01:03:26.000So that's a little bit about how they've used health to basically ramrod through abortion through point of birth.
01:03:32.000But yeah, if you look at the studies, the breadth of the studies shows an overwhelming link of negative health consequences for the mother following the abortion.
01:03:42.000Yeah, and finally, I also want to make sure we're all clear on the 99% of all abortions are done electively and are done for convenience, socioeconomic, socioeconomic reasons, according to the pro-abortion Gutmacher Institute.
01:03:57.000We're talking about such a fraction of a fraction that are rape, incest, and even less so of even if you're able to get to that definition of life of the mother.
01:04:20.000Just tell them if I give you rape and incest and life of the mother for a second, will you join me to fight to end the 98% of all other abortions?
01:04:38.000So this question is a little similar to one that was asked already, but I find myself continuously running into this when talking to people who are pro-abortion.
01:04:47.000So I'm just curious to know what you would say to someone who says that they have no other option but to abort their baby because they can't financially support it, support a child, and they don't want to contribute to overcrowded orphanages.
01:05:12.000Most people don't know what a pregnancy resource center is.
01:05:14.000And we have some politicians who say that they torture pregnant women and that they hate women and that they're the peddlers of misinformation.
01:05:25.000So some politicians wrote a letter to Google recently, Charlie, saying, You need to make sure that those nasty pregnancy centers that torture pregnant women that their results don't show up on Google.
01:05:36.000And Google is going along with that right now.
01:05:38.000Last year, Google made sure that pro-lifers couldn't promote ad spend for the abortion pill reversal.
01:05:44.000Remember, I talked to you about RU486.
01:05:46.000Well, the abortion pill reversal is just progesterone, so it gives her more of what the abortion pill was breaking down to help save the pregnancy.
01:05:53.000And they're saying that the abortion pill reversal is dangerous to women.
01:05:56.000And now they're saying pregnancy resource centers are the peddlers of misinformation.
01:06:00.000You mean when I go to Planned Parenthood's website and I try to find out what a suction abortion is, and it says that it gently suctions out the pregnancy?
01:06:26.000And these are the people lecturing us on the peddling of misinformation.
01:06:30.000Okay, so there are those pregnancy resource centers that are heroes, and we have some represented here tonight from Choices, they outnumber abortion centers more than two to one.
01:06:38.000And they provide almost all of the same services that Planned Parenthood does, minus the baby butchery part.
01:06:46.000The Catholic Church is kind of big on charity and hospitals and loving the poor and orphanages and foster care, if you don't know that.
01:06:52.000It's actually the most charitable religious institution in the United States of America.
01:06:57.000There are plenty of ministries well situated to provide care for women who need help.
01:07:03.000And the church ought to be the ones on the front lines, making sure that we're not prostituting our spiritual obligation to pregnancy centers and letting them do it while we make ourselves feel really good, but actually getting involved, being the hands and feet of Jesus to women who are hurting and need help.
01:07:21.000One that I think we'll all agree with, and the second one that you might agree with.
01:07:25.000The first one is that now that Roe versus Wade is repealed, the church has to step up.
01:07:28.000Dream City has done this and have a no-excuse policy of anybody who's pregnant, you know, unexpectedly in the community that will receive help and love and acceptance with all of that, regardless of circumstances.
01:07:40.000And I've been really, really thrilled with Dream City in particular at how action-oriented they've been to really lean in on this.
01:07:48.000But number two, and again, I'm not saying you should ever get preachy, but that's an awful argument that person made, which is who the heck cares about your feelings?
01:08:13.000And again, this goes to a deeper kind of, you know, let's just say, theme that I've been on on our podcast, which is this kind of narcissistic ideology.
01:08:26.000Yeah, narcissistic philosophy that has invaded mostly our schools, which it's all about you.
01:08:30.000By the way, this is why we have the most depressed, suicidal, medicated, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted, and psychiatric drug-taking generation in history, because they're so focused on themselves and they're not focused on serving other people.
01:09:06.000So you need to understand that is the eugenic philosophical tradition of Margaret Sanger and Margaret.
01:09:13.000And Margaret Sanger was influenced by the Neo-Malthusians, Thomas Malthus.
01:09:16.000Thomas Malthus said, we need to abolish private charities and let the poor and the physically afflicted just perish because the gene pool and bad genes and people we don't like.
01:09:26.000And then that's the philosophy that influenced Hitler.
01:09:29.000Margaret Sanger had a board member named Lothrop Stoddard, who was a high official of the Massachusetts Ku Klux Klan, who wrote a book called The Rising Tide of Color Against White World Supremacy, who wrote a book called The Rise of the Underman.
01:09:40.000And Adolf Hitler's director of genetic sterilization, Alfred Rosenberg, appropriated the German term Untermensch from the English version of Margaret Sanger's board member's book, Untermensch, meaning subhuman, the Jews, eugenics, we don't want them to live.
01:09:54.000That's the eugenic, Nazi-esque tradition that they're espousing when they say they're going to have a rough life.
01:09:59.000And we, as the high priests of secular progressivism, we get to decide what level of suffering is appropriate and whether we'll let you live or not.
01:10:06.000And the last thing I'll say, this is what happens.
01:10:08.000If you don't believe a human being has a soul, then why not dispose of them?
01:10:11.000They're not useful to your aims and ambitions.
01:10:13.000As soon as you believe human beings have a soul, everything changes.
01:10:16.000You remove God, really bad things start to happen.
01:11:32.000So C.S. Lewis would say, such is the tragic comedy of our situation.
01:11:36.000We continue to clamor for those very qualities we are rendering impossible.
01:11:40.000In a sort of ghastly simplicity, we remove the organ and demand the function.
01:11:46.000We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise.
01:11:50.000We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.
01:11:55.000We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.
01:11:59.000If you remove the chest, you can justify anything, even genocide, even Holocaust, even killing.
01:12:08.000Humanism has been the bloodiest, most deadly religion we have ever seen.
01:12:14.000And Margaret Sanger's body count is greater than Mao's, Stalin's, and Mussolini's combined.
01:12:20.000More human beings were murdered in the 20th century than all of the tyrants and homicidal maniacs of the entire world history before the 20th century, thanks to humanism.
01:12:31.000So the acknowledgement that the victim is a human, but it doesn't matter, is nothing new.
01:12:37.000So when we as Christians refuse to contend against that alternative religion, we're refusing to fulfill the role God gave us to love neighbors, to hold back those staggering towards slaughter, and to expose the deeds of darkness because we're not demanding our rights.
01:12:57.000There's not much I can add to that, but I will say just a C.S. Lewis quote: you only know a line is crooked if you have a straight line to compare it to.
01:13:16.000It's the most simple yet important question when it comes to abortion.
01:13:19.000If a human being is a result of a multi-million year accident, then yeah, sure, wipe them out.
01:13:26.000If it's just evolution and you roll the dice and we happen to get reason and intellect and consciousness and sight and hearing, there's nothing special about it.
01:13:35.000But again, if a human being is a speaking being, in the beginning was the word, the word was God, the word was with God, logos, the two creation stories in Genesis and John, saying the same thing differently, God spoke into existence, we're image bearers of that being, then all of a sudden, that baby, we do not have a moral right to be able to eliminate that being.
01:14:21.000I knew I was choosing life and I was going to raise my child.
01:14:24.000And my church told me I had to give the baby up for adoption or I would ruin my life.
01:14:29.000And I'm just wondering if even if the church seems to be like anti-abortion and they seem like they're doing everything right, could they still be part of the problem?
01:14:44.000Yeah, no, I mean, listen, thanks to, by the way, thanks to people like Charlie Kirk, my pastor Rob McCoy, and Jack Hibbs.
01:14:50.000I've probably spoken in more pulpits in America in the last two years than any pro-life speaker in the world.
01:14:55.000And so I just want to say that I meet these churches and pastors, and God is raising some of them up, but it's still not enough.
01:15:02.000So many churches will pay lip service to the pro-life movement and to the dignity of life in the womb, but not do anything to contend for the life of that unborn child.
01:15:11.000So if you can't get the family right, you're going to get everything else wrong.
01:15:15.000That's the fundamental building block of society.
01:15:17.000It's how God chooses to build societies and bring the gospel to a broken people.
01:15:32.000And that's why we need people like Charlie and Dream City Church to lead courageously because while cowardice is contagious, so is courage.
01:15:44.000So that is a good segue to our close here, which is we have a lot of work to do.
01:15:50.000I've said for I'm 100% pro-life and I'm proud of it, but I think there's a lot of people that say they're pro-life, but are not as pro-life as they claim.
01:15:58.000Part of it's okay, part of it's confusion.
01:16:00.000That's why his message is so important: to lean in to understand the issue with clarity and with wisdom.
01:16:06.000And so, Seth, you have a table out there where people can meet you and support you, right?