00:00:54.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:02.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:36.000The listeners of the Charlie Kirk show know I have a lot of respect for you, and I really enjoy having you on the show because you're super smart and really kind of understand what's happening in the world.
00:02:02.000Agnostic, and honestly, I think agnostic was a better label for what I actually held to, but I'd kind of get wrapped up into this movement and it was using the words and kind of different ways.
00:03:20.000Understanding the arc of the story, particularly the Old Testament, is a story of, I mean, at the beginning, you have the creation part, of course, but then what you have is a story of a people who have made a covenant with their deity that they just keep falling short from, and then they keep getting called back to by a prophet that brings them back, and then things get good, they fall away, things get bad.
00:03:44.000They get called back, things get good, they fall away, things get bad.
00:03:47.000And it's kind of this long story of human frailty and failure.
00:03:52.000And that when you live right, when you get right, life goes well.
00:03:57.000When you get into dark things or you start messing around where you shouldn't be, or you aren't paying attention to your duties and your responsibilities, life goes bad.
00:04:06.000And then when we get, of course, to the wisdom and the teaching that we see in the New Testament, I think that you see just incredibly cogent ways to think about life and how one can live and what the challenge is.
00:04:22.000Like, look with this groomer thing, right, with the drag queens.
00:04:26.000How hard is it to remember meekness in the face of that?
00:04:31.000How hard is it to live up to the ideal of turning the cheek while also not stepping away from your duty to protect the little ones?
00:04:53.000If you are in the position where you're not, I'm not, everybody can look at the drag queens or the groomer clowns or whatever you want to call them and say, okay, causing little ones to stumble, millstones.
00:05:39.000The people I've met from the new atheist movement, I say this, it drives people nuts, actually act more like Jesus than most Christians do.
00:06:52.000We can talk about that in government step.
00:06:54.000And so when you look at what Marx creates, what Hegel creates and what Marx adopts and then throws the spiritual aspect out of it, at least in name, but not in what happens, you're looking at something that was these weird esoteric heretical religions getting hammered into a shape of Christianity.
00:09:21.000Somebody said a mean thing to me once about girls.
00:09:23.000And now you have an excuse for why you didn't gain any mastery.
00:09:26.000So when I look at this, the root of Marxism is, just in the context of this parable of the talents discussion, is that people who are trying to kind of skip the steps of the small piece to the bigger piece to the bigger piece, mastering at each stage, good and faithful servant, you've done well with a few things.
00:09:47.000If you're going to do that, if you're going to try to skip the steps, there's a strong temptation to just blame the system, blame men, blame the department, and never take responsibility for it.
00:09:58.000Yeah, I mean, look, the Bible is at direct odds with Marxist activism.
00:10:04.000I mean, I do a whole show on that, but tell me why in your words.
00:10:07.000Well, I mean, there are multiple reasons, but the Bible, and I think these are your words because when I came on your show recently, you indoctrinated me in the tend to do that.
00:11:27.000It's to obliterate, though, distinctions, all distinctions, so that we reabsorb into the oneness of the original all and become God.
00:11:37.000Which the Bible is directly at odds with.
00:11:41.000It's pretty mad about that repeatedly with like fire coming from the sky and stories of the world.
00:11:47.000One of the very simple arguments made in the Bible that most Christians can't really articulate, which is what you mentioned that I just jumps off the page, which is reality, the natural law, existence needs distinctions.
00:12:21.000No, but meaning like they always say they want diversity, but they want oneness?
00:12:25.000Well, and the contradiction is everything, because what they mean by diversity, of course, is unity of thought.
00:12:31.000And if we, it's like, you can say, okay, well, that's what they do in Marxism or that's what they do in intersectionality or whatever these new woke things.
00:12:37.000What's the first principle of the seven principles of Hermeticism?
00:12:40.000It's a principle of mind or principle of the mental principle.
00:14:14.000And they explain at the very beginning, academics won't talk about this because you might as well be talking about aliens or parapsychology, ESP, telekinesis, and stuff.
00:14:25.000But wizardry of this kind or sorcery or whatever we want to call it, was esotericism, if we want to be formal and academic and correct and careful, was extremely popular throughout Europe through the Middle Ages, especially among elite classes.
00:14:41.000It was like the thing, well, why did what is what was Madonna?
00:14:44.000Madonna gets rich, Madonna gets bored, Madonna ends up doing Kabbalah, it gets super weird, and now like, whoa, what happened?
00:15:41.000In the Phaedrus, he says these ideas, he puts in Socrates' mouth, where do these ideas come from?
00:15:45.000You know, this seems so ancient, blah, blah, blah.
00:15:46.000He says, well, they come from other places.
00:15:48.000They come from this particular port that's just north of Alexandria, and they come from the person that the Egyptians, or the god that the Egyptians call Toth, who it doesn't say it in the Phaedrus, but in Greek that's rendered as Hermes.
00:16:00.000And it's attributed to a character that goes by the name of Hermes Trismegistus.
00:16:30.000It's the teachings of the God Hermes, who's the one who went into, is the messenger God, which already starts getting Luciferian undertones, and they all call themselves Luciferian when they get far enough into this.
00:16:39.000They all do, because they think they're bringing light to the world.
00:16:42.000And he's the one in the Greek myth that goes into the underworld to rescue Demeter from his daughter Persephone from Hades and bring her back.
00:16:52.000And being inducted into this is what's called the Eleusinian Mysteries, which, by the way, Hegel refers to as what it means to become a true philosopher.
00:17:01.000So let's just slow it down a little bit.
00:17:34.000It's like the thing that Christians refer to as God is like you have to blow that out to a higher level of infinity, of total all-oneness, undifferentiated being is where the true nature of God is.
00:18:24.000Everybody that wants to blame the Jews for all this stuff doesn't know that the Jews, just like Christians, just like Muslims, just like scientists throughout all of the history, especially in the Middle Ages, started taking up all of this stuff and working it in.
00:18:37.000Jewish mystics, every religion has its mystics.
00:18:40.000Every healthy religion calls them heretics and tries to keep their influence low.
00:18:46.000Jewish mystics started to pick up this same Hermetic line.
00:18:50.000Christian mystics started to pick up the same hermetic line, especially through the Middle Ages, when it became very, very popular.
00:19:23.000But again, you always have these mystics, and the mystics work their way in.
00:19:27.000And the mysticism in this case is very frequently Hermetic that works in underneath because what it does, what the Hermetic thing does, a core belief of the Hermetic, because remember, there's one all, right?
00:19:39.000Is that there's only one religion or only one philosophy.
00:19:42.000It doesn't matter which thing you choose.
00:19:43.000In philosophy, they'd call it the perennial philosophy, the philosophia perennis.
00:19:48.000And in religion, they call it the ancient theology, which is theologia something or another.
00:20:44.000The divine enters into the world of the mundane.
00:20:46.000And man becomes this thinking creature.
00:20:48.000As a matter of fact, man in the Hermetic tradition is the third person in the Godhead.
00:20:52.000There's this not Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
00:20:54.000It is undifferentiated all or the all or God, or I guess you could say Father, which is unbegotten.
00:21:03.000And then there's the self-begotten God, which takes the place of the Christ, which is the mind of God for them.
00:21:08.000So it's God, all, or sorry, God, mind, man is the third person.
00:21:14.000And so at that point, you are supposed to remember that that's who you are and start putting together back to this story so you can climb back up that thing, back up to the top, back up to the undifferentiated all.
00:21:27.000So the way you do that is by starting to work these contradictions in the world out.
00:21:30.000Man is the thinking being that can find what appear to be distinctions in the world where the undifferentiated all poured himself out.
00:21:43.000And so what you have is all this kind of divinity trapped within the mundane.
00:21:46.000And the thinking man understands how to pull it out to get back to the full truth.
00:21:51.000And when we get back to the full truth, we can understand who we are.
00:21:55.000Or as sometimes it's said, we know where we came from, what we are, and what we've been flung into.
00:22:02.000And so when you understand that, you understand that you are the man is the third person of the Godhead.
00:22:08.000That man can seize the means of his own production to use Marxist language for it and self-begat.
00:22:15.000Marxism is just an attempt to figure out what the mechanism of that is.
00:22:18.000And he thought it was economic principles.
00:22:20.000But you're going to self-begat man as he was meant to be before God, at which point when he becomes self-begotten, he becomes his own Christ.
00:22:29.000And then at that point, he gets to return to the undifferentiated all.
00:22:32.000And so it can get poured into Kabbalah.
00:22:35.000It can get poured into Christian mysticism.
00:22:37.000It can get poured into, say, Swabian pietism, which was what Hegel studied.
00:22:42.000It is a branch of Lutheranism that was extraordinarily heretical and popular in the Swabian region of southern Germany around the beginning of the 19th century and the previous century before that.
00:22:54.000Hegel's teachers at the Tübigenstift, which is a famous seminary there, were well known to be wizards.
00:23:02.000We're talking like Friedrich Uttinger straight up was a wizard.
00:23:10.000I mean, these guys are Hermeticists who think that they have a better understanding of a process-driven understanding of what it means to be human, what it means to be God.
00:23:22.000And then what is Hegel created out of this?
00:23:38.000A wonderful book about this that's called Hegel in the Hermetic Tradition by Glenn Alexander McGee.
00:23:43.000And the first sentence of the book is, Hegel was not a philosopher.
00:23:49.000And then everything from there follows.
00:23:51.000Marx, I would wager, I can't prove this, actually plagiarized from parts of what's called the corpus hermeticum, which is the kind of ancient spiritual text of the Hermetic faith.
00:24:04.000There are these weird parts when you do economic and philosophical manuscripts.
00:24:07.000You're reading, he's talking about landowners, he's talking about rent, he's talking about money, he's complaining about, you know, people having property.
00:24:13.000Then all of a sudden, he starts talking about how when you gain consciousness as a socialist, your senses are transformed.
00:24:19.000Your ear is no longer a normal ear, it's a human ear.
00:24:22.000Your eye is no longer a normal eye, it's a human eye.
00:24:24.000And you're like, what in the world is this?
00:24:26.000Turns out there's a passage in the corpus hermeticum that says that when you receive the nos, the mind of God, your senses are transformed.
00:24:48.000And then all of a sudden, it's, oh, we're transforming what it means to be a human being into something else when you adopt socialism.
00:24:53.000So if you take, if you take the economic philosophic manuscript weird parts, like in the second manuscript there, and you take out socialist and replace it with received the divine mind, and just read what you get, you get Hermetic teachings extraordinarily plainly, with places where it's so obviously, when I read the Corpus Hermeticum for the first time, all I did was mark it up, make notes, Marx EPM section whatever, you know,
00:25:19.000Marx critique of Hegel's philosophy of the right section whatever, all the way through.
00:25:25.000It just stares at you if you're familiar with Marx and are willing to let go of the idea that he was an economic theorist.
00:25:30.000For some people listening, for part of what you said, which is, well, Charlie, for example, someone would say, well, Charlie, Jesus is not the way.
00:25:48.000And that's what our endeavor is: to realize that we are our own Christ.
00:25:52.000It's explicit in the corpus Hermeticum.
00:25:54.000It's explicit that, in fact, you are supposed to, the point of all true spiritual teaching, they say, is to realize that you are the divine and that you are to be, quote, and to become God.
00:26:10.000God can't know who God is, so God can't know he's God, till man figures out that he's God.
00:26:17.000And then God will see it in the mind of man.
00:26:20.000You're blowing my mind because this is so entrenched in everything.
00:27:11.000I don't even have to believe in God to know that I'm not God.
00:27:14.000And when you believe you're God and you start thinking that your goal is to remake the world as you think it was supposed to be, guess what you are?
00:27:40.000I think that you are because that fundamental disposition of humility is key.
00:27:45.000When you read the founding documents from the United States and they say God and nature is God, this is what they're actually acknowledging.
00:27:51.000That you look, you don't even have to believe whether it's Christian or Judeo or whatever.
00:27:54.000You don't even have to believe this, but you have to recognize that you're humble before something.
00:27:58.000Yeah, and they went on to say supreme being of the universe.
00:28:06.000And that's very, very important because what it means is that the fundamental disposition that somebody like you and I share, if we accept that we have different fundamental beliefs religiously, is that we are humble before that which we believe is.
00:28:55.000The thing is, is the New Age movement, which has infused like all the kind of pop culture, all the pop psychology stuff, all the like corporate training nonsense that a lot of people end up doing.
00:29:13.000Theosophy is a whole weird philosophical religious movement that started in the 1870s or 1860s, maybe with a weird, weird, weird woman named Helena Blavatsky, who was probably just straight up a fraud that went to, she was a British woman, no, wait, German and Russian heritage, went to India, lived in London, created what she called the Theosophical Society, the Wisdom of God Society.
00:29:38.000And so she visited India and she picked up a lot of this kind of Hindu monist thinking that all the, you know, with the Hindu monism is there is one God, but it appears in three avatars, and each avatar appears in many avatars.
00:29:51.000And so everything you encounter is an avatar of God.
00:29:53.000And if you find your way back up to the top, you get back to God.
00:29:55.000And she brought all this in, and it's just what she wrote is crazy.
00:29:58.000It's literally where Hitler got his ideas about the Aryan race.
00:30:11.000This is where he got his ideas about the fundamental root races and which ones are superior and why the Aryan race is the best one and why he came up with a race ideology to build that out.
00:30:29.000So theosophy is this, we would call it new agey now.
00:30:33.000But what it is, is it's this weird incorporation of the esoteric religions, Hermeticism, Gnosticism, literally just made up stuff into whatever other frame.
00:30:42.000I'm not ready to say I believe this, but I'm going to really think and pray about it.
00:30:48.000That Hermeticism is far more dangerous than just like kind of nascent secularism.
00:31:14.000Hegel, the dialectic of Hegel with his phenomenology process, the dialectical materialism, the process of transformation of the world that these guys talk about is dialectic.
00:31:23.000You could say from Kant that it's thesis, antithesis, synthesis.
00:31:26.000You could say from Hegel that it's the abstract notion meets its negative within itself, and then you find out the concrete, which is all the greater understanding of the total causes of the thing.
00:31:37.000This process of transformation really gets cleared up as it works in its hermetic way in Hegel because the middle process isn't antithesis, which is still negative, but it is explicitly just the word negative.
00:31:49.000Hermeticism is the idea that if we destroy the mundane world, we free the divine.
00:31:55.000If we destroy the distinctions, we return to the manifestation.
00:31:58.000That's what Marx was going after by the slavery of everyday work, right?
00:32:07.000Are you trying to tell me that Marx consciously was saying when he wrote the manifesto with Engels and Das Kapital that part of abolishing the capitalist order will be getting us to some sort of divine hermetical union?
00:32:32.000Yes, and he was a member of the Communist League, and Marx was brought in, and he was writing his own confession of communist faith.
00:32:40.000They blended the things to write the manifesto.
00:32:42.000When Marx wrote economic and philosophic manuscripts in 1844, which is four years before the manifesto, which is the basis of his philosophy on economics and the world, and when he wrote his critique of Hegel's philosophy of the right, especially the introduction to it, because he just quit when he got to the really meaty part of Hegel.
00:34:24.000And therefore, by discovering himself, he created a world of many trillions of microns of himself that one day create a mirror where he could see himself.
00:35:00.000What would you say to describe it to a fourth grader?
00:35:02.000It's a way of believing that you are a part of the giant divine plan, and as you transform the world toward what we call justice, people are going to.
00:35:13.000This is honestly, in some ways, super comforting because Christianity is so different than this.
00:35:26.000It becomes very, very easy when you get to the bottom of this to be able to spot it for what it is and to call it out like the great characters like Irenaeus in history who called out the heresy.
00:35:36.000So when we say paganism, is it similar?
00:35:41.000That's outside of my ability to answer that question.
00:35:43.000But this is a definitely when you read the Old Testament and you're like, they're at war with like the war with this philosophy, this ideology, this religion.
00:35:52.000Yes, because it was widespread, wasn't it?
00:37:35.000Which is where we get the word epistemology, which is never wrong.
00:37:39.000And the true science is that you have the higher reason that the philosophers have that's never wrong, that's informed by and gets to direct the lower level understanding, which is why it's the difference between in modern language, it's science versus the science.
00:38:14.000And so this is, in the Corpus Remeticum, they actually explain that when you receive NOS, it gives you, when you receive a piece of knowledge, the word agnostic has no s in it.
00:38:29.000When you receive nos, you may still do evil like murder or adultery, but you get to avoid evil because you know why it's for the greater good or whatever else.
00:38:39.000So most Eastern religions have elements of this, but they're different.
00:38:43.000I mean, Buddhist teaching wouldn't argue that, I don't know what, I don't know the Buddhist creation story, but they wouldn't argue that we're all like mini gods.
00:38:55.000They would argue that you are a spiritual being.
00:39:04.000Now, actually, if people want to follow the spiritual paths, I believe in religious liberty, and so I'm like, no, of course.
00:39:09.000But it's when you start to believe that we all have to share the same mind for it to work.
00:39:14.000When your interpretation is that we have to have the same idea about what society is supposed to look like, which just so happens to be what the experts or the stakeholders or whatever have decided.
00:39:23.000But Hegel argued this is where this is where some audience members have to say, hold on a second, wait.
00:39:27.000Then how are you going to sort that out?
00:39:32.000It's the inevitable process of history.
00:39:34.000The machine of history is grinding it down to that point.
00:39:38.000And then the people who have taken up this process will have the fruits of having transformed themselves and being available to re-enter to the whole.
00:39:48.000And the people who haven't will be destroyed.
00:39:50.000History will have used people and then discarded them, which is what he said.
00:40:45.000And so you get a piece of the mind of God if you get into this.
00:40:48.000So it's absolutely very likely to become Luciferian.
00:40:52.000I literally don't care if somebody wants to go be an ascetic and they think that they're going to ascend to another plane of existence and that's their spiritual path and if it's rewarding for them and if it's like something they're doing as an individual, like I don't care.
00:41:03.000But when you start thinking, because a lot of those guys think that by their ascension and their prayer or whatever, they're bringing light to all of humanity just by kind of magic, spiritual magic.
00:42:14.000Hegel thought that endpoint would be the hive mind of humanity, like the creation of Borg.
00:42:21.000Hegel thought that there would just be the removal of distinctions that cause warring factions, but that war and distinction and everything is necessary to grind the gears of the sky.
00:42:31.000There's no evidence to support any of this.
00:42:34.000Marx, however, fully believed that there would be a paradise in which the only work people do is work that they spontaneously want to do, that nobody would have to work.
00:42:43.000This is one of the reasons I jokingly, half-jokingly, say that Marxism can never work, because it's literally a philosophy based on the idea, what's its end goal?
00:42:57.000So if nobody works, nothing's going to work.
00:43:00.000If you're purely utilitarian, it's an argument against even things like prostitution because, well, some people can do it, but everybody can't because somebody's got to put food on the table to be able to pay the person, right?
00:43:36.000The Chinese did a somewhat better job.
00:43:38.000Mao had his prisons, his brainwashing prisons were somewhat more effective, but it turns out you can't actually transform.
00:43:43.000The human mind isn't as malleable as they believe it is.
00:43:46.000You can't actually transform people into that.
00:43:49.000Everybody having the so-called people's perspective, where you can't identify who the people are, except that it's the people who agree with the government.
00:45:15.000They're just saying we were getting along.
00:45:17.000They were saying we were getting along.
00:45:18.000But with the law of attraction or the secret or whatever, what we're talking about is the idea is the principle of vibration is everything vibrates.
00:46:01.000I just want everyone to appreciate how profound this conversation is.
00:46:05.000Because here's someone who is a serious evangelical religious Bible-believing Christian and an agnostic formerly with the new atheist movement that is now dialoguing about the threat of the religion of hermeticism.
00:48:16.000And I don't want to quibble over faith because I agreed with everything you said, but I want to make it very clear that the difference between faith and gnosis, Gnosticism, is that they don't need faith.
00:49:26.000And they later ended up digging up his grave and dancing in the street with his bones to desecrate it in the lead up to the French Revolution.
00:49:53.000They knew what the correct society was supposed to look like, and they're going to force everybody to live in it and say it's unsafe if people don't.
00:49:59.000Public safety was the department that went around and kill everybody.
00:50:36.000It has a different mythology, a different understanding.
00:50:38.000Their belief is that there is an all-pervasive, perfectly good God, all behind everything.
00:50:43.000But if we frame it, say, with the Christian story, the God that's depicted in Genesis is actually not that perfect being.
00:50:51.000It is instead what they call the demiurge, which comes from the Greek demiurgos, which means artisan or builder, the builder of the world.
00:50:59.000And so that turns out, because it was created through, in their mythology, through a sin, a sin, it turns out, of the goddess of wisdom, Sophia, that arose from...
00:51:42.000And so an artist, but she thought it, so it comes into being.
00:51:45.000And the artisan, the demiurge or demiurgos, comes in, but because it was born in the sin of wisdom, or the fall from wisdom, if you want, it's evil.
00:51:55.000And so it creates being itself as a prison.
00:51:59.000And so man is born free, but everywhere he's in chains.
00:52:02.000He spends the rest of his life in chains.
00:52:03.000Or I was born in the wrong body, and I have to throw it off.
00:52:17.000I therefore was born with a womb and the capacity to become pregnant.
00:52:20.000And if I have the capacity to become pregnant, I'm imprisoned in the possibility of throwing away my own life to have to raise another, which I didn't ask for at birth.
00:52:30.000It is a Gnostic condition that drives not all, I won't say all, but much of the push for especially the push where you'll see it from like Planned Parenthood for abortion.
00:52:38.000A lot of that rhetoric, when I hear the Democrats talk about how a woman shouldn't be chained to a pregnancy, Gnosticism, which believes that you are cast into a prison of being that you didn't ask to be in, that makes you suffer.
00:52:52.000But if you have the knowledge of the true divine behind the curtain, then you can escape the prison, or you can help everybody escape the prison.
00:53:01.000So to summarize this, which is so profound, let me do one more.
00:53:07.000Marx doesn't believe in a God, so he says, right?
00:53:11.000But he believes that society is created through what?
00:53:15.000Through the people who own the means of production.
00:53:18.000And so you have a bourgeoisie becomes a demiurgic power that controls the structure of reality and causes everybody else to be in a prison of being, and they alone, like the God in Genesis, get to reap the fruits.
00:53:34.000You're supposed to band together, realize this is the truth as the proletariat, and overthrow that thing by seizing the means of production of man, society, and nature.
00:53:44.000Marx, all of his Hermeticism, even though Hermeticism and Gnosticism, and this is what people are going to say, they're not the same.
00:54:07.000So Gnosticism becomes a motivation, and Hermeticism becomes the mechanism, the dialectical destruction, the creation through negativity or negation.
00:54:16.000Creation through negation is their magic.
00:54:30.000James, I visit a lot of churches, and I talk to, I have not heard a single pastor understand this, a single Christian theologian or thinker.
00:55:23.000So your average feminist railing about abortion or Democratic congresswoman or whatever doesn't have to know any of this to be able to reproduce the exact mindset, the exact procedural thought.
00:56:39.000Where if, you know, you came in here and you told me you're reading your Bible and you had this idea, and I'm like, okay, that's okay.
00:56:43.000But then if you came in and told me that, you know, God spoke to you last night and he talked through a hairdryer or whatever, I'm going to say, hold on, Charlie, you know, that's.
00:56:51.000And I believe he could for the rest of it.
00:58:55.000Turns out that that wasn't such a good name.
00:58:57.000So in 1924, she renames it to the Lucifer, or sorry, the Lucius, I guess they pronounced it, L-U-C-I-S Publishing Company.
00:59:06.000They reincorporate as a trust to protect the money because the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation are dumping money into this thing because she says they are.
00:59:13.000Protect the money, they reinform as a trust called the Lucius Trust, L-U-C-I-S Trust.
00:59:18.000Go to luciest trust.org, click on contact, see where their office building is.
00:59:40.000They have a temple or a meditation room, they call it, in the UN building in New York City that's 33 feet long, which is an auspicious number.
00:59:49.000It's 18 feet square at the entrance and six feet square at the far end, shaped like a pyramid laying on its side with a six-ton iron altar that supposedly connects to the magnetic field lines of the earth under New York City.
01:00:01.000And it's the only religious space in the UN building.
01:00:49.000Why is the UN and the World Economic Forum, these wizard organizations, or at least the World Economic Forum is an unabashedly wizard organization?
01:01:52.000When you understand, if you read the Hermeticum or you learn the Gnostic fundamental belief about being itself, being a prison that has to be destroyed so you can escape at all, it's like, oh, wow, this is everything.
01:02:41.000And when you show these people to be people who are projecting completely unreasonable against reason, they claim reason for themselves, but it's their own special saucer that's fake.
01:02:54.000And so you expose this because what they depend wholly upon, they have two things that they can use to beat us.
01:04:49.000We're going to find out very quickly how many people that have been posing as theologians are actually into wizardry because they're going to defend it like crazy.
01:04:57.000So, I mean, I think of someone like Rick Warren.
01:05:01.000He's a big friend of the WEF, isn't he?
01:06:04.000And the sad part is that a lot of them, especially, I think, academic scientist types, don't have the slightest idea that they've bought into a corrupted form of science that's more in line with what Hegel calls science than what actually science should be, which would be more Aristotelian or Aquinian.
01:08:16.000Not the love of wisdom, which is what the philosopher's job.
01:08:20.000In the same passage, in the same sentence almost, or the previous sentence, he says that the philosopher's job is to take the cabinet orders from God and write them down.
01:08:32.000And you tell me, did he think he had a glimpse of what God really meant?
01:08:37.000His job to be a person like him, which is a mystic called a philosopher, is to take cabinet orders from God and write them down.
01:08:45.000And that's in his book about how logic works.
01:08:48.000Hegel believed that he had actually figured out how to become the logos, which Christians should immediately recognize is really not a good thing to decide that you are.
01:08:56.000I mean, you can't get more heretical than that.
01:09:16.000There's so much clarity that will come once this conversation starts to develop.
01:09:20.000But not only, yeah, I mean, but not just politically with the weird sorcerers running our governments, but also these self-help books and all these kind of watered-down Christianity.
01:09:41.000Like, there's going to be so much clarity when you start having smart people, whether philosophers or theologians especially, start getting very clear on this because you are 100% correct that the Christian doctrine is 100% diametrically opposed to this.
01:09:56.000And once you understand what you're looking at, once the spell breaks, you can see it and then you can fight it.
01:10:01.000I mean, I think we partially beat it by also not just exposing it, because this is actually super appealing.
01:10:22.000We just have to take all the things that were assigned to you at birth by a culture that then socially, you know, socialized and socially constructed them into you and throw all those off in a fit of miserable 20s and 30s and being childless and resenting the world forever.