The Charlie Kirk Show - The Biden Doc Distraction? with Peter Schweizer and Pedro Gonzalez

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00:01:48.000 Pedro, welcome back.

00:01:49.000 Happy Friday.

00:01:50.000 Charlie, thanks so much for having me.

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00:01:53.000 All right, Pedro, let's get into this story you have here on your substack, Groomers Online.

00:02:00.000 Tell us about it.

00:02:01.000 Yeah. 0.86

00:02:02.000 Well, it will sound eerily reminiscent to another story that was recently published in Town Hall about a couple of gay men who were also outspoken LGBT rights activists who sodomized their adopted children and produced child pornography. 0.70

00:02:18.000 I mean, really, really heinous stuff, right?

00:02:20.000 And so I had actually covered a story that's kind of similar, but admittedly not nearly as bad.

00:02:26.000 It's bad, but not that bad last year while it was still developing.

00:02:31.000 And so basically, the FBI uncovered a network of a network of mostly gay men who are producing and distributing child pornography online using apps like Telegram and Kik. 0.94

00:02:48.000 There's a whole aspect of online anonymity enabling this stuff.

00:02:52.000 But the most disturbing element of the story is that several of the people that are involved in this that were in communication were teachers.

00:03:01.000 So it actually started with a teacher in Philadelphia working at a private school.

00:03:07.000 So don't think that this is a public school thing.

00:03:09.000 This was a prestigious private school in Philadelphia.

00:03:13.000 This teacher had worked there for nearly two decades.

00:03:16.000 And Dropbox notified an organization that's in charge of kind of fielding complaints related to this sort of thing, which are then forwarded to law enforcement.

00:03:27.000 So Dropbox flagged a file that had been uploaded that depicted two underage boys engaging in sexual acts.

00:03:34.000 And so Dropbox ended up forwarding two IP logins for that connection to the FBI.

00:03:42.000 And they traced it back to a school teacher at a private academy in Philadelphia who's in his 40s.

00:03:49.000 And so actually, while looking into him, that's when they uncovered that he had been actually talking to another teacher in Hawaii named Alden Bunak.

00:03:57.000 You may have heard of him because right before he was arrested, people noticed, or rather, right after he was arrested, people noticed that he was a really outspoken LGBT rights advocate.

00:04:06.000 He had attacked feminists who were anti-trans.

00:04:10.000 He said that conservatives only use the term groomer because they are themselves grooming kids.

00:04:16.000 And so they're projecting.

00:04:17.000 I mean, like really outrageous stuff, right?

00:04:18.000 Well, it turns out that this guy in Hawaii, who had been a substitute teacher at a variety of different schools in Hawaii, had actually been having sex with a 13-year-old boy who he described to investigators as a former student. 0.56

00:04:33.000 And he actually said in his online communications to the other teacher in Philadelphia that there had been times where he had sex with this boy during school lunch breaks.

00:04:43.000 And he had been recording these encounters and sharing them online.

00:04:48.000 He uploaded at least two of them online that this other teacher saw.

00:04:52.000 And that's just the tip of the iceberg here.

00:04:55.000 There was another teacher who has not been identified yet, or there's a third person who claims to be a teacher.

00:05:00.000 The authorities only know him under his Telegram handle, which is Mr. Pickles, kind of odd.

00:05:05.000 But this person also claims to be a teacher who's sexually attracted to his underage students.

00:05:13.000 And so to go back to the Atlanta story with Mia Cathwell from Town Hall on, this is extraordinary stuff.

00:05:20.000 And you have the courage to kind of go through all this.

00:05:22.000 Why is it that the media not just ignores this, but they're actively producing cover for this?

00:05:33.000 Worse than ignoring it.

00:05:35.000 Because I think we have sacred people in our society, people that are basically beyond reproach, people whose lifestyles are not just beyond criticism, but in fact, we have to glorify them, right?

00:05:46.000 It's kind of like we're all supposed to be subjected to these kind of struggle sessions if we break party line on this.

00:05:52.000 And in this case, it's specifically people who fall under the LGBTQ rainbow.

00:05:58.000 And that story that took place in the Atlanta area suburbs and this story that took place from Philadelphia to Hawaii, there was a third accomplice in New York.

00:06:08.000 And we can talk more about the tactics they use because part of the reason I wrote this is to actually inform parents on what to look out for because of how these people operated online.

00:06:18.000 But everyone involved in both of these stories are gay men, which is, I mean, very obviously, this is like a group that you're not allowed to criticize in society today, right?

00:06:29.000 And worst of all, in the town hall story and in my story, there's adopted children involved. 0.98

00:06:35.000 The Philadelphia teacher, when the FBI executed a search warrant at his home in Roxborough, Philadelphia, which is considered, by the way, one of the safest, most family-friendly neighborhoods in Philadelphia, it's very quaint, very, you know, it's the perfect kind of place.

00:06:52.000 I think that the motto is a place with roots, you know, just like the kind of the perfect place to raise kids.

00:06:58.000 Well, not really, or at least in this case.

00:07:01.000 But, anyways, when the FBI showed up at his door, they found that he lives alone with a six-month-old girl.

00:07:10.000 And it's not clear.

00:07:14.000 Local reporters have tried to figure out whether or not it's his biological daughter, but they know that he's not married and that he lives alone with her.

00:07:23.000 So, again, these kinds of stories are simply too explosive because they kind of bring us back to a little problem called pattern recognition.

00:07:33.000 That it seems like certain people tend to exhibit certain behavior, but you're not allowed to notice that.

00:07:38.000 Or at least you're not allowed to notice red flags.

00:07:43.000 Like the FBI noted that this Philadelphia teacher had tons of photographs that they described as non-pornographic, but they seemed to be taken while he was out chaperoning students during off-campus activities because they all trusted him, right?

00:07:58.000 The parents trusted him, the school trusted him, the students loved him.

00:08:01.000 He earned everyone's trust and enough so that he was able to take them on trips off campus, I think even overnight trips.

00:08:08.000 And the FBI found that he had tons of photographs of his students, these boys, that were taken when the students weren't looking.

00:08:15.000 And I mean, you put two and two together here.

00:08:18.000 And the reality is that this guy was using his position of trust and influence to take these pictures that were not necessarily pornographic, but obviously fed into his fantasies about his students.

00:08:28.000 And as an adult, if you see that, you know, a guy who's taking pictures of young boys all the time when they're not looking, I mean, like, that's a red flag, right?

00:08:36.000 But you're not supposed to say anything because that red flag probably comes from a place of bigotry.

00:08:42.000 That's an important point.

00:08:43.000 So if you have in your spirit and just common sense, if all of a sudden a pattern recognition is activated in your senses, the media and the current regime is telling you that you're actually bigoted and an awful person.

00:08:59.000 This is a real, this is a deeper point.

00:09:02.000 In some ways, the emphasis on trying to find bigotry where it doesn't exist is actually creating a more dangerous country for our kids.

00:09:11.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:09:12.000 And it's inevitably going to create more resentment because simply put, if you say you're not allowed to ever criticize this group, it's going to make people resent that group.

00:09:22.000 It just makes people hate each other.

00:09:24.000 And obviously, and arguably more importantly, it makes us all less safe.

00:09:28.000 It makes us less safe when all of a sudden you start to see a pattern recognition here.

00:09:32.000 And look, I said this previously, which is, okay, I would love to see the media have the same sort of, it's a wish that will never be fulfilled, the same sort of enthusiasm and energy that they went after trying to take down the Catholic Church that now we see a pattern that is emerging.

00:09:54.000 And based on your reporting, Pedro, and based on Mia's reporting, the buried lead is the demand for this content.

00:10:05.000 I'll be honest, I couldn't even read Mia's piece.

00:10:07.000 I had to put it down.

00:10:08.000 It's so sick.

00:10:08.000 It's so horrific.

00:10:10.000 I mean, and I'm going to talk to you about what I think should happen to them.

00:10:12.000 I think the gallows would be merciful.

00:10:15.000 But the demand is what really bothered me because that all of a sudden goes to show this is not some one-off thing, but there's a market for this.

00:10:25.000 Pedro, explain to our audience the disturbing and diabolical demand for child pornography.

00:10:35.000 Yeah, well, it is diabolical.

00:10:38.000 I mean, it's just the worst stuff.

00:10:40.000 For this story, I had to take a deep dive into court documents.

00:10:44.000 And I wish I didn't.

00:10:47.000 Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, like, I skim these articles, man.

00:10:50.000 Like, it's just not good for your soul.

00:10:51.000 It's just, and by the way, there is, I don't mean to interrupt you.

00:10:54.000 There is documented evidence that the investigators in the FBI that are assigned child pornography cases are more likely to commit suicide and get like, I mean, it's just, you can't, like, it's really a sick thing.

00:11:07.000 And it's, I, my heart goes out for these investigators that are like living normal lives and they have to build cases around this.

00:11:12.000 I'm sorry, Pedro, continue.

00:11:14.000 No, it's right.

00:11:14.000 And you can kind of see in the criminal complaints and in the motions for pretty well detainment that the agents are fired up.

00:11:21.000 You know, like they, they use the term.

00:11:23.000 And one of the documents I read, they use the term or the phrase like-minded predators, like-minded child predators three times. 0.66

00:11:31.000 It's really disgusting.

00:11:33.000 And so the Philadelphia teacher at this private, again, prestigious private academy, he was a math teacher.

00:11:41.000 He worked with an accomplice who was based out of New York, but had gone to school in the South.

00:11:47.000 An interesting character.

00:11:48.000 There's not a whole lot of information on him, partly because he's his age.

00:11:51.000 The teacher in Philadelphia was in his 40s.

00:11:54.000 This other person in New York was about 19 when he was arrested.

00:11:58.000 They actually met because this teacher, again, in his 40s, had been posting erotic pornography, like gay, basically fictional stories on a website called Nifty.

00:12:11.000 And Nifty has been a hub for erotic LGBTQ fiction for a long time.

00:12:18.000 And it's drawn controversy because users are not required to verify that they're over 18 and the site affords people complete anonymity.

00:12:26.000 So basically, a 13-year-old could post about it, or I guess more importantly, could read on the website, right?

00:12:33.000 And access all this different content.

00:12:35.000 And that's actually how these two connected.

00:12:38.000 The younger person in New York read some of the teacher's erotic fiction on this website and they got in touch there.

00:12:45.000 I wasn't able to find it, probably for the better, but it makes, but it makes you wonder, you know, what was he writing?

00:12:50.000 And was he writing about fantasies involving his own students?

00:12:54.000 We don't know because again, it's really difficult to even figure out who's writing what on that website.

00:12:59.000 And so these two came up with a plan to bait nudes to produce child pornography, in other words, out of his own students.

00:13:09.000 And so the way that they would do this was they would run through different social media accounts like Instagram and Snapchat pretending to be girls.

00:13:15.000 And the teacher in Philadelphia would send information about his own students to this other person in New York.

00:13:22.000 Sometimes this person in New York was a little bit more than a month.

00:13:23.000 This is a whole network then.

00:13:25.000 Yeah.

00:13:25.000 This is a sophisticated operation.

00:13:28.000 Yes, it was actually.

00:13:30.000 There was a spreadsheet involved.

00:13:32.000 And so the idea was just to bait nudes out of underage boys, including this person's own students.

00:13:40.000 And it got so Byzantine that at one point he developed a spreadsheet that he organized by age, by like, I think the success rate of whether or not they got something out of them.

00:13:54.000 Going, I think it started with sixth graders.

00:13:58.000 It just really disgusting stuff.

00:14:00.000 Like they had like little kind of like slogans that they would use to celebrate when they actually baited someone, like got his D or got him is like the language they would use to celebrate baiting his own students into sending them like videos of them doing stuff.

00:14:16.000 Like just really, really gross.

00:14:18.000 And then another aspect of this was they would bait other underage boys who were gay because, you know, in this other case, these students at the school thought they were talking to basically teenage girls. 0.85

00:14:31.000 Obviously, they weren't.

00:14:32.000 These are men behind the app.

00:14:35.000 But then in a separate scheme that they came up with, using a social media app called the Kik, which again gives you a ton of anonymity.

00:14:44.000 And for that reason, it's drawn criticism because it doesn't require a phone, like you don't have to verify a phone number or an email to use it.

00:14:50.000 And so through Kik, they started a group where in order for other underage boys to join it, they would have to basically send live sexually explicit content to them as kind of like your initiation into the group.

00:15:05.000 Really disgusting stuff.

00:15:06.000 And he was doing this to teacher in Philadelphia basically up until the moment that he got arrested.

00:15:11.000 And when the FBI showed up at his door and they kind of asked, it's like a, you know, why I pulled you over moment, right?

00:15:16.000 They asked him, do you know why we're here?

00:15:18.000 And he said, it's, it's because of my Dropbox, isn't it?

00:15:21.000 And he acknowledged to the agents that his Dropbox had recently been closed because he violated terms of service related to pornography.

00:15:28.000 Unbelievable.

00:15:29.000 I mean, as I said, the guillotine would be merciful to these people. 0.99

00:15:32.000 And someone said, well, Charlie, you know, you're a hypocrite because then you would have to, you know, would you be the executioner? 0.99

00:15:38.000 Happily. 1.00

00:15:39.000 I would happily be the executioner to these freaks. 0.95

00:15:42.000 Pedro, thanks so much. 0.79

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00:15:46.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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00:16:55.000 The Biden story continues to grow and develop and deepen, but I think we're more confused than we are clear.

00:17:05.000 So joining us now is Peter Schweitzer, who is the foremost expert and researcher on all things Biden corruption.

00:17:12.000 He is the president of the Government Accountability Institute and author of the number one New York Times bestseller, Red Handed.

00:17:19.000 Peter, welcome back to the program.

00:17:21.000 Great to be with you, Charlie.

00:17:22.000 Thanks for having me.

00:17:23.000 Peter, your research is fabulous.

00:17:26.000 It's impressive.

00:17:27.000 It's thoughtful.

00:17:28.000 And you really did a lot of work on it, obviously, and work that other people did not do.

00:17:33.000 So I'm just going to kind of allow you to riff and to walk our audience through it.

00:17:37.000 What do you think is going on with this Biden document scandal saga?

00:17:41.000 And how, if at all, does it connect with the Biden crime syndicate's foreign deals?

00:17:48.000 Great question, Charlie.

00:17:49.000 I mean, to me, the Biden document scandal is sort of the typical bureaucratic approach, which is basically avoiding the bigger scandal and going off on this little sort of technicality.

00:18:03.000 So what do I mean?

00:18:04.000 We have now known for quite some time, it's not been disputed, it's clear in corporate records, financial records from China and Hong Kong elsewhere, that the Biden family got some $31 million from four Chinese businessmen beginning when Joe Biden was vice president of the United States.

00:18:21.000 And those four Chinese businessmen who gave these tens of millions of dollars to the Bidens all have links to the highest levels of Chinese intelligence.

00:18:30.000 So one of them, who Hunter Biden on the laptop calls the super chairman, his name is Cha Feng.

00:18:38.000 At the same time, he was pouring money into the coffers of the Biden family, was business partners with the vice minister of state security with responsible for foreign espionage.

00:18:50.000 I could go through the Other three businessmen as well, but they have similar types of ties.

00:18:55.000 This is a massive issue and a vassive problem that the mainstream media has largely ignored, frankly, completely ignored.

00:19:03.000 The Biden family does not dispute, does not want to discuss it.

00:19:07.000 And now you have the document scandal erupt, and the issue is really over the handling of classified material.

00:19:14.000 I'm not meaning to minimize this, Charlie, but from the standpoint of the larger scandals facing the Biden family, it is relatively minor.

00:19:23.000 And my concern is that we will have Republicans and others sort of go off the trail on the documents, which does need to be investigated, but do it at the expense of this larger, more fundamental question, which is why did the Bidens get tens of millions of dollars from these Chinese businessmen when they performed no discernible service?

00:19:44.000 They provided no product.

00:19:45.000 There's no evidence they did anything for the money.

00:19:48.000 They didn't get the money for free.

00:19:50.000 So the question is, what did they do for it?

00:19:53.000 And that's what I think congressional investigators should be focused on.

00:19:57.000 So can you help me understand this rental refund payment from CEFC and then that allegedly got transferred to Joe Biden's rent?

00:20:10.000 I have a personal theory on this, which is, and I'd love your take, that Joe Biden has been and is more involved in the details of Hunter Biden's finances than anyone ever wanted to acknowledge or admit.

00:20:24.000 And Hunter Biden was so controlled by his father that he wanted to make sure that he could show his dad a dollar for dollar one-to-one transfer that he was not cloak and daggering the money at all.

00:20:38.000 Like, Dad, see, it was $49,510 and you received $49,510.

00:20:44.000 Am I reading too much into that?

00:20:47.000 It's very, very possible, Charlie.

00:20:49.000 I mean, this story kind of evolves as more material comes up, but I think you're quite right.

00:20:54.000 Hunter Biden and Joe Biden were more tied on these deals than they've acknowledged.

00:21:01.000 And let's remember, Charlie, where this conversation started.

00:21:04.000 In 2018, it was the first time that we exposed, that anybody exposed the Biden's ties to the Chinese in 2018.

00:21:11.000 And the Biden family response was: there were no deals.

00:21:15.000 Hunter had no deals.

00:21:16.000 That ended up not being true.

00:21:18.000 That ended up being a lie.

00:21:21.000 So then they switched to, well, Joe Biden had no knowledge of these deals.

00:21:25.000 He never met with Hunter's business partners.

00:21:27.000 The laptop came out and showed that that was demonstrably false.

00:21:32.000 Now the fallback position has become, and it was sort of spun in a New York Times article last week.

00:21:37.000 Well, Joe and Hunter did not ever have joint bank accounts.

00:21:42.000 So that's now become the standard to measure whether they were engaged in business together.

00:21:48.000 It's very, very clear.

00:21:50.000 Joe Biden met with his business partners.

00:21:52.000 He knew what Hunter was doing.

00:21:54.000 Hunter was writing in the wake of what Joe Biden did as vice president.

00:21:58.000 Let's remember the two biggest countries where Hunter Biden got deals.

00:22:02.000 He sets up a global financial consultancy with no experience in 2009.

00:22:08.000 And the two biggest deals are in Ukraine and China, both of which happen to be the countries that Barack Obama appointed specifically and publicly.

00:22:18.000 Just the coincidence.

00:22:19.000 I mean, come on, obviously.

00:22:20.000 It's just a coincidence.

00:22:22.000 I mean, Joe Biden didn't, he struggled to arrange business deals from Ghana.

00:22:29.000 I don't know why.

00:22:31.000 Exactly.

00:22:32.000 And Charlie, you know, it's like, where are the deals from London and Tokyo?

00:22:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:37.000 The actual financial centers.

00:22:38.000 Yeah, the financial institutional non-American centers of industry, right?

00:22:43.000 I mean, maybe, could you just throw in a Zurich or a Luxembourg just to pretend like you're doing something legitimate?

00:22:49.000 Exactly.

00:22:50.000 I mean, it's absurd.

00:22:52.000 And so now we have this situation where the story continued to evolve with the laptop, where you saw very, very clearly in the emails.

00:23:00.000 I talk about it in my book.

00:23:01.000 The New York Post has reported on it, where Hunter Biden, while his father was vice president, was paying his father's bills.

00:23:08.000 He was actually paying in 2014 and 2015, he was paying for renovations on that home in Delaware that we now know later have these classified documents.

00:23:19.000 So the notion that Joe Biden didn't know about his son's business dealings, that he didn't benefit from them, is simply not true.

00:23:28.000 And so the question now becomes, why did the story about these documents leave?

00:23:33.000 That is the operative question.

00:23:35.000 Yes.

00:23:35.000 Yeah.

00:23:36.000 And look, I'm speculating here, okay?

00:23:38.000 I don't know.

00:23:39.000 I don't have any inside information, but I think a couple of things are going on.

00:23:43.000 Number one, there is very real concern in the Democratic world about the investigations that are mounting on Capitol Hill.

00:23:51.000 They don't look good.

00:23:52.000 I think the second thing you have at work, Charlie, is politically.

00:23:55.000 A lot of Democrats do not believe that Joe Biden is up to snuff mentally or physically for the 2024 campaign, and they want him out.

00:24:05.000 They're looking for people like, let's say, Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, or others to step in.

00:24:11.000 The problem is, is Joe doesn't want to voluntarily step away.

00:24:16.000 So they're giving him a gentle nudge.

00:24:18.000 That's my theory on what is going on with these documents being linked.

00:24:23.000 It gives them sort of a middle ground technicality to convince Joe to not run.

00:24:29.000 And it sort of takes off the table in terms of the 2024 campaign, issues related to the family's foreign business dealings in China.

00:24:37.000 In some ways, it's a warning shot, right?

00:24:39.000 It's kind of, hey, we're actually in charge.

00:24:43.000 There is a deep state that is just going to remove you at our choosing.

00:24:48.000 But I share your fear here, which is, will there ever be an actual robust investigation into the altering of U.S. policy for personal inurement?

00:25:00.000 That right there, I mean, we have a big T-word that should encompass that.

00:25:05.000 And I'm not saying they did it, but they certainly loosely threw that around like a frisbee when Donald Trump was president.

00:25:11.000 Treason.

00:25:12.000 But I'm not saying Joe Biden did it.

00:25:14.000 I infer and I speculate it. 0.94

00:25:15.000 But you have proven through your incredible research, tens of millions of dollars to a buffoon cokehead, let's just be honest, right? 1.00

00:25:25.000 That has no business doing international business dealings at all. 0.64

00:25:28.000 No services rendered.

00:25:29.000 This guy's not exactly a hedge fund specialist, okay?

00:25:33.000 And then a father who all he had was access and basically a temporary position in government authority.

00:25:40.000 Is that ever going to be investigated?

00:25:42.000 I hope so.

00:25:43.000 I think we're hearing from Republicans on Capitol Hill that they are going to investigate it.

00:25:48.000 I've been in communication with members of those committees.

00:25:52.000 They certainly have my material and the documents that I have.

00:25:55.000 And I do think this is vitally important, Charlie, because you kind of saw what the position of the Democrats and the mainstream media is going to be on the interview last weekend when Senator Ron Johnson was on NBC News.

00:26:10.000 And Ron Johnson was asked, well, do you have any evidence that Hunter Biden committed a crime?

00:26:17.000 You know, since when is that the standard of concern?

00:26:20.000 I mean, was that the standard when it came to Donald Trump?

00:26:24.000 That, well, first we have to demonstrate that a crime's been committed.

00:26:27.000 No, I mean, the very point of investigation is to figure out what went on.

00:26:32.000 And what the Bidens did is the equivalent of during the Cold War, we're facing the evil empire of the Soviet Union, and Jimmy Carter's family, or God forbid, wrong Reagan's family, took $30 million from Russian businessmen linked to the KGB.

00:26:50.000 Now, who is going to say that that should not be investigated?

00:26:53.000 And who's going to say, well, first we have to demonstrate that a crime was committed or we don't care? 0.72

00:26:59.000 This is going to be the position of the mainstream media and of the Democrats, and it's a ridiculous standard.

00:27:05.000 So my hope is that the members of Congress leading these committees are going to show fortitude.

00:27:11.000 They are going to meticulously go through this as prosecutors would.

00:27:16.000 In other words, subpoena the documents, get all those suspicious activity reports at the Treasury Department, there's more than 150 of them.

00:27:24.000 And let's be clear, Charlie, those suspicious activity reports, they're flagged by the Treasury Department when they are concerned that money is being laundered by either criminal organizations or terrorist organizations.

00:27:37.000 They've got 150.

00:27:38.000 I mean, could you just imagine maybe around the 85th unusual, just like whoever's running that desk at Treasury?

00:27:46.000 Hey, Earl, we got another one.

00:27:49.000 Yeah, yeah, I know.

00:27:50.000 How about 104?

00:27:51.000 Hey, Pam, what am I supposed to do here?

00:27:54.000 We flagged another one.

00:27:55.000 I mean, how around the 118th suspicious wire transfer.

00:28:01.000 It's ridiculous.

00:28:02.000 Charlie, Charlie, the average businessman who's doing international business deals, you know, they might get one a decade. 0.66

00:28:09.000 Exactly.

00:28:10.000 And usually, talking to people that have dealt with Siffius and with this, it's usually cleared up because it's a mistake, but it's taken very seriously.

00:28:19.000 Usually you get like a call from the DOJ, like, we're coming to your office tomorrow.

00:28:23.000 And eight guys in suits show up.

00:28:24.000 They say, what is this for?

00:28:26.000 You know, it's very serious.

00:28:27.000 And it's money that's usually, it's not flowing from London, Tokyo, or Zurich.

00:28:31.000 I don't know.

00:28:31.000 It's usually from Tehran or from some other clandestine third world country on the seven countries that we're now able to do business with.

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00:29:47.000 I want to find this piece of tape here.

00:29:48.000 It was in our open.

00:29:50.000 It was Larry Summers.

00:29:51.000 Our team will find it.

00:29:52.000 But he was basically, yeah, here it is.

00:29:53.000 Okay, this is Obama's economic.

00:29:55.000 It was Summers.

00:29:56.000 Didn't Summers run Harvard at some point?

00:29:59.000 Yeah, he did.

00:29:59.000 Yeah.

00:29:59.000 Okay.

00:30:00.000 He failed miserably there.

00:30:01.000 Play cut 105.

00:30:03.000 It would be an enormous and staggering error for the United States to decide that it was its policy to try to suppress Chinese economic growth in the name of our national security.

00:30:17.000 An enormous and staggering error to decide that.

00:30:21.000 Now, Peter, this somewhat incorporates our Biden conversation, but when I hear someone talk like that, I just, I know this sounds so cynical.

00:30:30.000 Immediately think, like, how much are you getting paid?

00:30:33.000 I don't think he actually believes this.

00:30:35.000 Yeah, I tend to agree with you.

00:30:37.000 And in Larry Summers' case, I haven't looked at him specifically, but look, look at the circles that he swims in.

00:30:43.000 Look at the business that he's in, which is finance, Wall Street, economic forecasting.

00:30:48.000 And for the biggest players on Wall Street, China is where the financial action is.

00:30:54.000 Bridgewater Associates is the biggest hedge fund in the world.

00:31:00.000 And Ray Dalio, the head of Bridgewater Associates, sings the praises of Beijing.

00:31:06.000 I mean, he calls the guy who was President Xi's enforcer.

00:31:10.000 This is the guy that would throw people in jail and disappear them.

00:31:14.000 In one of his books in 2018, he calls him this guiding light that is a remarkable force for good on the global stage.

00:31:25.000 And somebody who Ray Dalio has learned so much from.

00:31:29.000 It's a stunning thing.

00:31:30.000 The Economist calls the same guy the most feared man in China because he throws people in jail.

00:31:36.000 So why would Ray Dalio, this Titan on Wall Street, do that?

00:31:40.000 Well, about a year after that book came out, his company, Bridgewater, became the first Western hedge fund to be able to offer its products in China.

00:31:50.000 That's what selling your soul looks like.

00:31:52.000 And Ray Dalio is not alone.

00:31:54.000 So unfortunately, these are the people that hire Larry Summers and people like him to be consultants.

00:32:01.000 I just, I want to know how many Aspen mansions were made possible thanks to the selling out of our national security and the integrity of our institutions.

00:32:14.000 My guess would be thousands.

00:32:16.000 So let's just kind of put a bow on this.

00:32:19.000 How do you see this then playing out?

00:32:21.000 Because a concern I do have is just a longer-term constitutional concern that the bureaucrats just basically call the shots.

00:32:29.000 I mean, I'm no fan of Joe Biden, but I am not a fan of this kind of deep state maneuvering fourth branch of government paper shuffling, especially if there's a negotiation bargain where we're supposed to believe that the paperwork is the high crime and misdemeanor, when in reality, they were playing a game that has civilizational implications.

00:32:50.000 Yeah, it's an enormous problem, Charlie.

00:32:53.000 You've talked about it.

00:32:54.000 Other people have talked about it.

00:32:55.000 But this attitude within government bureaucrats is profound.

00:33:01.000 There was a book I just recently read by two scholars at Johns Hopkins University.

00:33:06.000 They did a survey of more than 2,500 senior executive service people in the federal government, and they asked them a series of questions.

00:33:15.000 One of them was: if there is a policy that a popularly elected president wants to pursue that's constitutional and that you disagree with, would you resist and try to undermine that policy?

00:33:30.000 More than 60% of these unelected bureaucrats said yes, they would.

00:33:35.000 Unbelievable.

00:33:36.000 So they don't feel like they're accountable.

00:33:38.000 They don't care the fact that they're not elected.

00:33:40.000 We have got to strip government of power.

00:33:44.000 And I will say, Charlie, that, you know, as somebody who's been sort of disagreeing and battling with the left for decades, I'm starting to see a few glimmers of hope of certain people on the left, certainly not the majority, who realize this monster that they have created.

00:34:00.000 The Leviathan.

00:34:01.000 Yeah.

00:34:01.000 Yes.

00:34:02.000 Because their solution to everything, Charlie, has always been more government, more government, more government.

00:34:07.000 And now they realize they don't control it anymore.

00:34:10.000 So there's got to be in this country a reckoning, and we're going to have to make a choice whether we truly want to be a representative government or whether we are comfortable meandering into essentially an authoritarian arrangement where unelected people make the majority of decisions that affect our lives.

00:34:28.000 I will enjoy from afar, you know, Joe Biden having to scrap for political relevancy and stay out of prison while simultaneously being struck with horror that somebody I don't know, that I can't hold accountable, that I never voted for, is actually doing that.

00:34:45.000 That's not healthy.

00:34:47.000 It's not sustainable.

00:34:49.000 And regardless of your political affiliation, we should not put up with it.

00:34:53.000 Peter, thank you so much.

00:34:54.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:34:56.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:57.000 Email me your thoughts as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:01.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 21, 2023

The Biden Doc Distraction? with Peter Schweizer and Pedro Gonzalez

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