00:00:00.000Hey, everybody, it's in Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000Senator Schmidt joins us, and also we reflect on the Munich Security Conference and a suggestion for someone to become Trump's vice president that you probably haven't heard of.
00:00:10.000Well, you've heard of, but you probably haven't thought of it.
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00:01:54.000Yeah, so we filed that lawsuit when I was attorney general almost two years ago now.
00:01:58.000And what we sought out to prove, which we have, is that two of the more corrupt institutions, big government, big tech, were in cahoots to censor millions of Americans.
00:02:08.000And so we were able to get discovery early on that showed reams and reams of emails, tens of thousands of pages of emails and text messages, just to show the links that they went to censor people.
00:02:19.000And there are probably two big buckets, Charlie.
00:02:22.000First was the Hunter Biden laptop story.
00:02:29.000The FBI, Elvis, Elvis Chang was the guy that briefed Silicon Valley over and over tone.
00:02:37.000It was a Russian hack and leak operation.
00:02:40.000And then on the COVID, on COVID, whether it was on the vaccine mandates or the mask mandates or the lab leak theory, government was working hand in hand with big tech to censor Americans.
00:02:50.000I just think it's incredibly scary the links that they went to to silence Americans.
00:02:59.000Then, of course, Elon Musk, thankfully, buys Twitter.
00:03:02.000Then you have the Twitter files, and all this stuff is out in the open.
00:03:05.000If those two things didn't happen, if we didn't file the lawsuit and he doesn't buy Twitter, this stuff would still be in the shadows and would still be happening.
00:03:12.000But thankfully, we're able to expose it and we got to make sure this never happens again.
00:03:15.000So I'm sure you've seen bits and pieces of the Mike Benz interview talking about the interconnectedness of the censorship regime.
00:03:46.000And I would say the last 20 minutes or so, Mike does an incredible job of talking about how these agencies, CISA, for example, which no one's ever heard of, was part of this scheme.
00:03:56.000But you also had, you know, Jen Masaki, Charlie, I think it's important to point out, was at the podium talking about how we're flagging posts.
00:04:26.000It crosses a number of different agencies.
00:04:28.000But I think what people need to understand is that they had weaponized these agencies of government to suppress dissent.
00:04:38.000And in this country, we hold that in the First Amendment to be a really important concept, right?
00:04:43.000This pressure release valve, people can speak their minds.
00:04:46.000The government isn't in charge and shouldn't be responsible for what people can see or hear or say.
00:04:51.000And that's what they want to do to control the narrative.
00:04:54.000And you're going to see this play out again over this election, this current election cycle.
00:04:58.000They're already talking about these threats to democracy that Donald Trump poses.
00:05:02.000The real threat to democracy is trying to throw your opponents in prison for the rest of their life, censoring Americans.
00:05:07.000I mean, that's the stuff the Biden administration is actually doing.
00:05:10.000So they're accusing, of course, Republicans of doing the very things that they do.
00:05:14.000Have we seen any evidence that they have suspended these censorship activities?
00:05:18.000And what was amazing about the Mike Benz interview is that this was a national security playbook that was then inverted against the American people.
00:05:45.000We're alleging that they coerced the, they essentially outsourced that censorship to these big tech giants, some of the biggest companies in the history of the world.
00:05:53.000So that case, we did a little bit different.
00:05:56.000We didn't go after the social media companies.
00:05:59.000And so it's a really, really important case.
00:06:01.000I think it's the most important free speech case in our nation's history, certainly in a generation, because the virtual town square is every bit of the town square now where people used to go out on the courthouse steps and speak their mind.
00:06:17.000They claim that it's in, whether it's a national security interest or a threat to democracy or their interest in making sure people only hear what they want them to hear, they're in it.
00:06:34.000Yeah, and that's what's really important is that they thought they could get cute by outsourcing the censorship to third party groups.
00:06:40.000And they literally went through, well, we can't use the CIA, we can't use the FBI, so we're going to use the DHS disinformation governance board and go out to other partner 501c3s.
00:06:50.000And I think we're still just trying to get an idea of the web.
00:06:56.000I believe firmly it had a determinative impact on 2020.
00:06:59.000My fear is that we have not done enough to fix it coming into this election year.
00:07:04.000And they're going to have the censorship leviathan in full force.
00:07:10.000According to Mike Benz, he says that the two most censored events in history were the 2020 election and COVID, and they were happening simultaneously.
00:07:19.000And now they have broadened this to threats the democracy, threats the democracy.
00:07:25.000Elon Musk liberating Twitter or X has been a massive and positive development in this regard.
00:07:33.000Are there any action items for the U.S. Senate to work on this?
00:07:36.000I suppose some sort of oversight, but that seems to be slow moving in the Senate.
00:07:42.000Yeah, I've tried to carry that work into the Senate.
00:07:45.000I just think that the First Amendment is foundational.
00:07:47.000I mean, it is what it means to be an American to speak your mind.
00:07:50.000Don't happen in other places of the world because tyrants since the beginning of time have tried to control what people can say and what they can hear, right?
00:07:58.000America is supposed to be an exception.
00:08:00.000It's one of the reasons why we believe in American exceptionalism, right?
00:08:03.000And so I've got a couple of bills in the Senate.
00:08:05.000One is on the social media side: look, if you're going to not be a platform and you want to be a publisher and you want to engage in this kind of activity, you lose your Section 230 protections.
00:08:14.000You're no longer immune from lawsuits.
00:08:17.000And then on the government side, I have a bill that would say: if you're an individual government bureaucrat and you've been involved in this, you individually can be sued.
00:08:27.000So if Charlie Kirk, for example, were censored or whoever were censored, you can sue an individual government actor, like a Section 1983 claim.
00:08:37.000That would be, you know, all of a sudden, these bureaucrats start weighing cost-benefit for themselves individually.
00:08:44.000I think that would go a long way in curtailing this.
00:08:46.000So those are two things, two ideas, certainly open to more, but this Supreme Court ruling will be really important.
00:08:51.000But I think just exposing this, Charlie, because this would have been on the fringes, labeled a conspiracy theory by so many.
00:08:57.000It's hard for the media to ignore this.
00:09:10.000Yet we're still going to these social media companies saying, get ready.
00:09:14.000There could be this BS story that's coming out.
00:09:16.000And then when that happened, the pre-bunking of that, then you saw, you know, the sort of these former national security people, Anthony Blinken being one of them, saying this is ridiculous.
00:10:09.000And around July and August, if we're able to call out their BS and really make this regime exposed, I think they're going to do 2020 again on steroids.
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00:11:24.000So, Senator, the irony is not lost on me that your name is Eric Schmidt and one of the great villains of the censorship industrial complex is also named Eric Schmidt.
00:13:17.000And I just, for me, cannot in good conscience send $61 billion on top of the $112 billion that's already been sent there when we're $34 trillion in debt and we have a wide open southern border.
00:13:28.000And I think that's where most Americans are at, certainly where most Republicans are at.
00:13:32.000But we ended up in a situation where they moved out of the Senate to do it.
00:15:05.000But what they were saying was later in 2024, there could be an ask for another 100 billion.
00:15:10.000So what that tells me is there's not a plan.
00:15:12.000And I just think as a senator for a state in the United States of America, that these are important questions to ask, but they don't have good answers.
00:15:21.000They don't even want to acknowledge it.
00:15:22.000I mean, Zelensky's been in, you know, I think he's come into the Senate and talked to us like two, maybe three times.
00:15:29.000This is just, it is, it in our lunches.
00:15:34.000And I'm sitting there saying, why aren't we talking about things that affect the American people?
00:15:37.000It's not to say that these issues around the world aren't important to talk about, but, you know, Israel's different than Ukraine and China is different than Ukraine, right?
00:15:47.000So, we ought to have these separate debates.
00:15:48.000But what they do is they hold Israel hostage.
00:15:52.000They hold the China stuff hostage because Ukraine, because Putin.
00:15:56.000And there's really not a good explanation as to why this is such an upset.
00:15:59.000No, instead, one of your colleagues from North Carolina said that you have to be a well-briefed senator, and there's no way our base can know the complexities of that.
00:16:08.000Well, I'm speaking to a well-briefed senator, and just this, every time it's kind of this argument from elitism and just pomposity, I don't like that.
00:16:17.000I think it's really destructive to the country.
00:16:19.000If you have a good point, then let's hash it out.
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00:17:59.000This last weekend was the, you could call it the CPAC of the globalists, kind of the main gathering of every single person that wants to continue the campaign in Ukraine.
00:18:14.000It is called the Munich Security Conference.
00:18:17.000The Munich Security Conference is a mixture of intellectuals and heads of state and U.S. senators.
00:18:25.000The Munich Security Conference, the consensus is very unified.
00:18:32.000They say that they have a debate, but it almost is never a debate.
00:18:36.000However, there was a contrarian voice that was platformed this weekend at the Munich Security Conference.
00:18:44.000The Munich Security Conference wrapped up yesterday.
00:18:47.000And they say, quote, on their website, at the moment, there's a real risk that more and more countries end up in a lose-lose situation, which is no longer about who gains more, but about who loses less.
00:19:00.000U.S. senators go and they talk about the fight for democracy and shiring up our defenses.
00:19:08.000The Munich Security Conference gave out a, this is to give you an idea of really the folk that go there, the John McCain dissertation award.
00:19:17.000They have an award named after John McCain that they give out every single year.
00:19:24.000This year, John McCain Award is awarded to this woman, I don't know her, Sarah Denise Rosenblaum and Moritz Grefoff.
00:19:33.000So at a conference where they literally have an award named after John McCain, was talking about how the most important thing happening on the planet is the war in Ukraine.
00:19:43.000But there was a fascinating wrinkle, a wrinkle that we did not see in recent years.
00:19:49.000And it goes to show how important it is to win these primary elections.
00:19:54.000And I was very involved in this primary election.
00:19:56.000And I remember we received some nasty emails and nasty emails.
00:20:00.000And people said, oh, I like Josh Mandel.
00:20:02.000And I said, no, no, JD Vance is the man.
00:20:12.000And JD Vance was invited on a CODEL, which is a congressional delegation trip for senators.
00:20:17.000And JD Vance was probably like, why not?
00:20:20.000He has a completely different worldview, a completely different approach.
00:20:24.000And he went to the Munich Security Conference to have a completely and 180 different perspective than the Munich Security Conference consensus.
00:21:41.000The problem with Europe is that it doesn't provide enough of a deterrence on its own because it hasn't taken enough of a it hasn't taken the initiative in its own security.
00:21:53.000I think that the American security blanket has allowed European security to atrophy.
00:21:58.000And again, the point is not we want to abandon Europe.
00:22:01.000The point is we need to focus as a country on East Asia and we need our European allies to step up in Europe.
00:22:08.000That very crisply, just kind of neutral, steady opinion is considered to be bombastic at the Munich Security Conference, being that measured.
00:22:23.000You're supposed to go there with pom-poms and cheerlead.
00:22:33.000Germany is the one country, maybe, in NATO that did not follow the stupid Washington consensus and allow their country to be deindustrialized during the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
00:22:45.000And yet at the very moment that Putin is more and more powerful, where the Russian army is invading European countries en masse, this is the point at which Germany starts to deindustrialize.
00:22:57.000Look at the number of people working in manufacturing in Germany now versus 10 years ago.
00:23:02.000Look at the critical raw materials produced in Germany now versus 10 years ago.
00:23:07.000The energy dependence now versus 10 or 20 years ago.
00:23:10.000We have got to stop deindustrializing.
00:23:14.000We want Europe to be successful, but Europe has got to take a bigger role in its own security.
00:23:22.000It is hard to put into words the psyche of a German citizen and German leader.
00:23:29.000When confronted, and I had other friends at the Munich Security Conference texting me, and there was a consensus.
00:23:35.000Anytime there was a private conversation about Germany restricting mass migration, Germany having its own armored divisions, Germany paying more for defense, it was always this hearkening back to, well, we can't repeat the mistakes of the 20th century.
00:23:50.000As if there is no spectrum, that there is no middle ground, that it's so radical without any nuance whatsoever.
00:23:59.000German leadership will say, well, we can't repeat the mistakes of the 20th century.
00:24:04.000What they're trying to say, and they are fixated.
00:24:47.000The Germans are the most radical in the sense of either we are going to go full fascist like they did in the 1930s, 1940s, or we're just going to have no borders, no industrial capacity, and allow what Douglas Murray beautifully calls the strange death of Europe.
00:25:03.000In Germany, they're talking about freezing bank accounts and banning far-right groups from traveling abroad, vastly more strict than what we even have here at our worst.
00:25:13.000When the actual solution is very simple, just allow elections, don't ban parties, and let people oppose immigration.
00:25:20.000So Germany had this Munich Security Conference, and JD Vance was very respectful, and he was one of the few voices that decided to push back against this.
00:25:29.000But there is this timidity that is built into the DNA of European leadership where they are so afraid, they're so terrified that they might have to have their own army and defend themselves and have their own industrial and military capacity.
00:25:46.000You want to truly stand up against Putin?
00:25:49.000Build some form of a German standing army.
00:25:58.000Again, college students don't get taught this about European socialism, is that American defense spending is a subsidy of European welfare state socialism.
00:26:09.000Imagine how much money you could spend on benefits, pensions, paying people to stay at home, universal government welfare, if you don't have to spend a serious amount of money on military.
00:26:22.000We spend around $850 billion a year on our military.
00:26:27.000Some of it is about protecting Europe.
00:26:29.000Now, remember, Munich is the city where Neville Chamberlain caved into Hitler.
00:26:35.000Now Europeans carry on that tradition of being weak and pathetic.
00:26:41.000And I want to kind of meet some of the neoliberals halfway.
00:26:46.000They're so convinced that the post-World War II order is orthodoxy and cannot be challenged.
00:26:55.000That all material wealth and success is a growth and extension of this World War II order, that America must defend every country, that we must have mass migration.
00:27:06.000Here's JD Vance challenging this consensus, play cut 17.
00:27:10.000It's very hard, the juxtaposition between the idea that Putin poses an existential threat to Europe compared again against the fact that we're trying to convince our allies to spend 2% of GDP.
00:27:34.000But again, I go back to this question about abandoning Ukraine.
00:27:39.000If the package that's running through the Congress right now, $61 billion of supplemental aid to Ukraine goes through, I have to be honest to you, that is not going to fundamentally change the reality on the battlefield.
00:27:52.000No one wants to acknowledge that reality.
00:27:54.000All these other senators that are there, all these other neocons that are there.
00:27:59.000They know that $60 billion is not even a start.
00:28:01.000Not to mention, we as American taxpayers are going to be on the hook to rebuild Ukraine.
00:28:06.000So it's not just a matter of breaking a bunch of stuff and using poor Ukrainian men and boys as human shields.
00:28:13.000It's also a matter that we're going to be on the hook to rebuild Ukraine while our own country falls apart.
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00:29:50.000So understand this: that the great American empire that has existed in the post-World War II order, with the dollar as the world reserve currency status, with us paying for the defense spending around the planet, it can work.
00:30:07.000But there's a major issue, is that it requires perpetual saber rattling, and it requires villain creation.
00:30:18.000Requires for us to create villains where they otherwise don't exist.
00:30:23.000In the Tucker Carlson Vladimir Putin interview, it was really perfectly put.
00:30:29.000There was a de-Sovietization campaign that was occurring in the late 90s, early 2000s, where we thought that Russia would become one of our allies.
00:30:41.000Used to be where Americans could easily fly to Russia.
00:31:31.000We were allies with the Soviet Union to defeat the Nazis.
00:31:35.000We were allies with these people that we are now supposed to hate to such an extent that they're going to roll through the plains of Europe and roll through the plains of Poland.
00:31:47.000Is it in the best interest of the Russian Federation to want to reclaim Poland?
00:31:54.000Vladimir Putin wants to reconstitute parts and aspects of the Soviet Union.
00:31:59.000He thinks it was one of the greatest mistakes in Russian history.
00:32:03.000Why are we not trying to broker peace right now?
00:32:06.000And the most important thing that I hope somebody can answer is why is it that the American government, via Boris Johnson and Tony Blinken in Istanbul, Turkey, obliterated a peace deal that could have prevented this conflict in the first place?
00:32:26.000We are now about to enter what is called the thaw.
00:32:31.000Temperatures are about to increase, and there's about a 90 to 100-day period where the killing is going to get horrendous.
00:32:40.000Right now, it is major advantage Russia.
00:33:19.000On one hand, the consensus in Washington, D.C. is that Russia is this unbelievable threat, this demon, this enemy that we must hate.
00:33:28.000On the other hand, it's that they're like a paper tiger and they're not actually strong, and just another $60 billion is going to defeat the Russians.
00:33:36.000Well, it turns out Russia has a lot of wealth, fair amount of people.
00:33:40.000They've ramped up industrial war capacity, and we are not going to be able to meet it.
00:33:45.000If we want to spend a couple trillion dollars, we might be able to get close.
00:33:49.000Quote, as Ukraine has scrambled to source ammunition, arms, and equipment for its defense, Russia has presided over a massive ramping up of industrial production over the last two years that has outstripped what many in Western defense planners expected when Vladimir Putin launched his invasion.
00:34:03.000Just as kind of a side note, have the American, have the Western planners been right about anything the last four years?
00:34:09.000Whether it be COVID and masks and lockdowns, vaccines, stock market predictions, inflation, have they been right about anything?
00:34:17.000Oh my goodness, Russia is a lot stronger than we thought.
00:34:21.000So how much money is it going to take to defeat Russia?
00:34:26.000Our Western leaders met in Munich under a delusion, a delusion that we can keep on pumping money, use Ukrainians as human shields, and somehow that's going to beat Russia and keep us safe.
00:34:44.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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