The Charlie Kirk Show - The Biggest Lie in History with Dr. Andrew Huff

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00:01:08.000 The truth finally is coming out.

00:01:12.000 One of the great crimes of the last century was the American political involvement in mainland China in the development of the Chinese coronavirus.

00:01:29.000 Gain of function research, which Anthony Fauci said they weren't doing, which I believe he lied under oath.

00:01:35.000 But there is a bombshell new book called The Truth About Wuhan.

00:01:42.000 How I Uncovered the Biggest Lie in History by Dr. Andrew Huff.

00:01:47.000 And he joins us right now.

00:01:49.000 Dr. Huff, welcome to the program.

00:01:52.000 Tell us about yourself and the work that you did with the EcoHealth Alliance, and then make the argument that this is the biggest lie in history.

00:02:00.000 The floor is yours.

00:02:02.000 Well, that should be somewhat easy to do.

00:02:05.000 Thank you for having me, Charlie.

00:02:06.000 So I'm not a typical scientist.

00:02:08.000 I started off my career in the U.S. military.

00:02:10.000 I was an infantryman.

00:02:11.000 I served in Operation Enduring Freedom, Operation Iraqi Freedom.

00:02:15.000 I thought I was going to be a career officer.

00:02:17.000 And then after my second employment, I had a change of heart and decided to go after my next passion in science.

00:02:21.000 My degrees are in psychology, security, technology, engineering, geographic information systems.

00:02:27.000 And my PhD is environmental health with an emerging infectious disease specialty track, which is epidemiology, essentially.

00:02:36.000 As a PhD student, I was groomed to be a leader in bioterror biosecurity.

00:02:42.000 I worked at a Department of Homeland Security Center of Excellence as a PhD student on full scholarship.

00:02:46.000 I had all my dissertation research published, and they started bringing me out to Washington, D.C. to meet all the key players, all the top bureaucrats at the three-letter agencies in national security and bioterror and biowarfare.

00:03:00.000 When I wrapped up the PhD, essentially all the people that had trained me asked me point blank, where do you want to go next?

00:03:07.000 I kind of went to the State Department, CIA, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security.

00:03:11.000 I really had my choice.

00:03:13.000 I befriended a couple scientists who worked at Sandia National Laboratories, which is their primary mission there is to manufacture, make nuclear weapons technology.

00:03:22.000 So this is the most secure national laboratory in the country.

00:03:27.000 I actually worked in biologics and public health and then complex simulation modeling for doomsday events.

00:03:35.000 You know, working there, I had a change of heart.

00:03:38.000 I realized I didn't want to work for the defense industrial complex anymore.

00:03:42.000 And furthermore, with the top secret clearance, when your work is continually being classified, you get to a point where you're not able to leave that environment because how can you tell anyone or another, you know, an academic institution or university about the things that you had worked on?

00:03:58.000 So, all these things were happening.

00:04:00.000 I had these realizations.

00:04:01.000 So, I decided to go out and hunt for a new job.

00:04:03.000 And within a week, I found this cool place called Equal Health Alliance.

00:04:07.000 And they had this mission, which was something to the effect of we prevent emerging infectious diseases through conservation work.

00:04:13.000 So, the idea that you can protect and conserve wildlife in the environment, you can prevent emerging infectious disease risk.

00:04:20.000 And there's actually some scientific, there's scientific truth to that.

00:04:23.000 I mean, if people are not out in the environment where you're ripping apart and exposing yourself to new things, you can't get sick.

00:04:29.000 So, if you don't go into a back cave and you preserve it, you won't be exposed to the bats.

00:04:32.000 And that's what I thought I was getting into.

00:04:35.000 I was hired as a senior scientist in data and technology where I was building predictive technologies for the Department of Defense to actually detect emerging infectious diseases in near real time with machine learning, or it's commonly referred to as artificial intelligence.

00:04:52.000 I was very successful at that.

00:04:54.000 I brought in $6 million of funding in short order.

00:04:57.000 And through my success, I was promoted to vice president at Equal Health.

00:05:03.000 And as a condition of my promotion, I have to be added to other programs, other opportunities at the organization.

00:05:08.000 There was this program called PREDICT.

00:05:10.000 And PREDICT had the mission of going out and collecting emerging infectious diseases or diseases that believed to be emerging infectious diseases, like coronaviruses.

00:05:20.000 And then they were going to, you know, through all the sampling of animals and wildlife, they were going to predict and forecast pandemics.

00:05:26.000 Well, once I was promoted and I saw under the hood of this thing, I realized that that was a big farce.

00:05:32.000 I started to see everything else going on at the organization.

00:05:35.000 And I realized, you know, this is one big intelligence collection operation.

00:05:41.000 So it seemed.

00:05:42.000 Peter Datsuk and I, Dr. Dasik had a falling out, and I started applying for new jobs and I left and I went to go be a professor at Michigan State University.

00:05:50.000 It was one of the happiest days of my life.

00:05:53.000 And then you fast forward to SARS-CoV-2 emerging. 0.64

00:05:57.000 And then everything I knew about Equal Health Alliance, all the facts, my documents really came into play to solving what is, I guess, the biggest travesty in human history. 0.91

00:06:10.000 How so? 0.96

00:06:12.000 What documents, what did you learn that all of a sudden gave you insight that we weren't able to glean publicly from news reports or just suppositions?

00:06:22.000 Sure.

00:06:23.000 So based on my training, so being the guy that developed the biosurveillance platforms for free letter agencies, I know exactly how well these technologies work.

00:06:33.000 And they work very, very well.

00:06:34.000 So basically, if a disease starts spreading on the other side of the planet with our spy technology, our surveillance technology, and the processing power that we have and the algorithms that we have, we're able to sort of detect needles in a haystack and identify those quickly.

00:06:49.000 So I have this built into my brain and how intelligence analysts analyze a situation.

00:06:55.000 Just by random chance, I pick up on some chatter in mid-December of 2019 that there's an emerging infectious disease outbreak happening in Wuhan.

00:07:04.000 So the first thing I do is I try to validate that.

00:07:07.000 I find videos on YouTube and other platforms for channel places of, you know, people say this crazy stuff.

00:07:14.000 Well, at first, you know, you're skeptical what's going on here.

00:07:16.000 So I went and pulled PM 2.5 air emission pollutant data for Wuhan and then overlaid that with crematoriums.

00:07:26.000 And I saw that there was point source emission from the crematoriums, which is a clear indicator that they're trying to get rid of bodies as fast as they can, which is highly correlated with severe emerging infectious disease outbreak or event.

00:07:40.000 Well, you know, I do what any good scientists in my field, and I'm connected to the deep state, so to speak, I start calling up other doctors in my field, other public health practitioners, and asking what's going on.

00:07:51.000 Why aren't we sounding the alarm here?

00:07:53.000 Usually, the CDC would be on top of this right away, screaming at, you know, there's something happening.

00:07:58.000 Let's take precautionary measures.

00:08:00.000 Well, you get into the first weeks of January 2020, and this is barely a blip in the American by the U.S. government.

00:08:09.000 And meanwhile, all the American epidemiologists really started chatting about this in late December 2019.

00:08:15.000 The rest of my type of people find out about it.

00:08:18.000 And the first two weeks of January, I mean, there's a ton of chatter happening on a platform really called Pro-Med, which is a epidemiologic intelligence communication tool that's used by epidemiologists globally, open source platforms.

00:08:30.000 Slack channel for epidemiologists.

00:08:32.000 Yeah, basically, Slack channel for epidemiologists is a good way of putting it.

00:08:36.000 Some of those epidemiologists are pretty old, though, so you can barely get an email out, but they make it work.

00:08:42.000 But so, anyways, the government narrative starts coming out.

00:08:46.000 You know, Anthony Pauci telling us not to wear masks.

00:08:48.000 Well, the funny thing is, in my community, everyone associated their masks being with a respirator, N95 or better.

00:08:55.000 So when he starts telling them, I'm like, why are they telling people not to wear masks?

00:08:58.000 That's actually good advice. 0.98

00:08:59.000 It wasn't these stupid cloth things that it transformed into. 0.87

00:09:04.000 And then you just fast forward, you know, they're saying it's not airborne transmissible. 0.73

00:09:08.000 You go look at all the epidemiology studies coming out of Southeast Asia in February of 2020.

00:09:14.000 It's clearly airborne transmissible.

00:09:17.000 And every time they came out and they said something, I'm like, this doesn't make sense.

00:09:20.000 I'd question it.

00:09:21.000 And in the back of my mind, I knew that eCroft Alliance had been doing this gain of function work at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:09:29.000 You know, another thing that they came out and said, well, this infectious came out of a wet market in Wuhan.

00:09:35.000 Well, if you actually go look at this wet market in Wuhan, it's not exactly the way that they were portraying it in the media.

00:09:42.000 When they typically say a wet market, what they're referring to is something that you fear in Africa, a place where they have a live animal market where they're slaughtering animals.

00:09:53.000 It's very unsanitary conditions.

00:09:56.000 This seafood market in China, when I go look at pictures of it, it's very hygienic.

00:10:01.000 It's sanitary.

00:10:03.000 It's like this neighborhood is like the equivalent of the Upper East Side of New York.

00:10:07.000 This is not some dirty, grimy place.

00:10:08.000 I mean, this would be a place that I would go buy groceries or you would too.

00:10:12.000 So they're putting out this whole narrative that this is, this is the, this is where the disease emerged and just it's not adding up.

00:10:18.000 And every time I go fact check something, in the same city, there is an Institute of Virology.

00:10:25.000 The book is The Truth About Wuhan or Wuhan by Dr. Huff, How I Uncovered the Biggest Lie in History.

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00:12:14.000 Let me play cut 30 here of your former colleague, Peter Dasik, play cut 30.

00:12:22.000 Coronavirus is a pretty good, I mean, neurovirologist, you know all this stuff, but they you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily.

00:12:30.000 Spike protein drives a lot of what happens with the coronavirus, zoonotic risk.

00:12:35.000 So you can get the sequence, you can build the protein, and we work with Ralph Barrack at UNC to do this.

00:12:40.000 Insert into backbone of another virus and do some work in the labs.

00:12:47.000 So Dr. Huff, is this the work that the EcoHealth Alliance was doing at the Wuhan Institute of Virology?

00:12:53.000 Absolutely.

00:12:54.000 And they started doing it in 2012 or 2013, actually before I started working at Equal Health Alliance.

00:12:59.000 I reviewed the gain of function proposal to understanding the risk of bat coronavirus emergence, which was funded by Dr. Anthony Fauci at the National Institute of Health, the National Institute for Allergies and Infectious Disease, NIAIDE.

00:13:12.000 And it was clear as day.

00:13:14.000 I actually released the documents or all my documents on Twitter today, AGHUFF, AG Huff on Twitter.

00:13:21.000 And your audience, yourself, you can go download and look at those.

00:13:24.000 And it is clear as day that this gain of function work happened at Equal Health Alliance.

00:13:30.000 Dr. Anthony Fauci and other people at NIH lied about it when they testified.

00:13:36.000 And unfortunately, what's happened is that the strategy or tactic used by either the intelligence community or all the COVID co-conspirators is that they've tried to make this a big debate about virology.

00:13:49.000 And it's not.

00:13:50.000 This is actually a criminal epidemiologic investigation.

00:13:54.000 That's what the FBI would call it.

00:13:55.000 I'm trained as an investigator by the FBI in this really niche sub-specialty.

00:14:00.000 And the more that they can make this complicated and difficult to understand, the more that people glaze over and it creates uncertainty about what the source of this virus really was.

00:14:11.000 And one of the key things that I do in my book, I got a copy of it right here, is that I discuss, in layman's terms, what happened.

00:14:20.000 So after I read Robert Kennedy's book, and it's an excellent book, I realized that a lot of this is just too technical and deep.

00:14:28.000 And you have to be older and more mature to understand the complexity of the relationships of all these different people, the government agencies.

00:14:34.000 And he does a phenomenal job of laying that all out.

00:14:37.000 I wanted to take the information that I had in my experience and make it digestible so that a high school student could understand what happened.

00:14:46.000 And my whole goal here is that if we're able to make everyone understand what really happened, hopefully we can prevent this from ever happening again in the future.

00:14:54.000 So Anthony Fauci says under oath, there was no gain of function research, play cut 31.

00:15:00.000 I do not have any accounting of what the Chinese may have done, and I'm fully in favor of any further investigation of what went on in China.

00:15:11.000 However, I will repeat again: the NIH and NIAD categorically has not funded gain of function research to be conducted in the Wuhan Institute of Viral.

00:15:25.000 Is he lying?

00:15:27.000 Absolutely.

00:15:28.000 And it's on the specific AIMS page of the understanding of the emergence of bat coronavirus risk proposal.

00:15:35.000 The brilliance is, so Dr. Peter Dasik and I had a following up, but Dr. Dask and I used to write proposals together, presentations.

00:15:43.000 I actually loved writing with Peter.

00:15:45.000 He's an excellent writer.

00:15:47.000 He has, he knows rhetorical strategy very well.

00:15:50.000 He and I bonded over that actually.

00:15:52.000 And the way that he crafted the specific aims is so brilliant.

00:15:57.000 It never says gain of function once on that page, but it dances around what gain of function is.

00:16:03.000 It says it in so many other words without actually saying gain of function.

00:16:06.000 That's what these people do. 0.96

00:16:08.000 It's just so sick. 0.72

00:16:09.000 Well, and then it gets better.

00:16:10.000 So, not only do they avoid the issue whether or not it's gain of function, in historical context, there's a domestic ban on gain of function taking place.

00:16:20.000 So, it looks like it was purposely crafted to not get the attention of any reviewer as being gain of function work, but it's clear as data that it's gain of function.

00:16:30.000 They spell it exactly how they do it.

00:16:32.000 It actually began with a program before this NIH grant called USAID Predicts.

00:16:39.000 So, the United States Agency for International Development had this program called Predict, Metabiota, Hunter Biden.

00:16:46.000 That probably sounds familiar to your audience and to yourself, maybe.

00:16:50.000 They were our partners, along with UC Davis, and they were going around the planet sampling and looking for all these dangerous viruses.

00:16:58.000 And the idea was by going out and looking for these and hunting for these deadly bugs, that we would then be able to predict and forecast pandemics.

00:17:06.000 Well, after I'm promoted, I find out that that's not the case, they're not collecting enough samples, it's not routine or systematic.

00:17:14.000 There's significant or fatal flaws in the methods that they're using to be able to predict or forecast emerging infectious diseases.

00:17:23.000 And when I find this out, I mean, I'm shocked.

00:17:25.000 The guy who's in charge of the program, his name is Dr. Dennis Carroll at USAID.

00:17:30.000 He's now in charge of the Global Virum Project, I believe.

00:17:34.000 And, you know, they're running around telling everyone, asking for millions of dollars that, hey, we're going to go forecast this stuff.

00:17:38.000 But no.

00:17:39.000 Let me ask you: did you ever personally visit Wuhan?

00:17:41.000 No, I didn't.

00:17:42.000 I've never been to Wuhan.

00:17:43.000 Never been to China, actually.

00:17:45.000 I've been to Asia, but not to China.

00:17:47.000 But when I was promoted to the Predict program, I actually was the country coordinator for Jordan and Sudan.

00:17:53.000 We're looking for a related virus called Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome.

00:17:57.000 It's a type of coronavirus in bats there.

00:18:01.000 And when I started to understand as an executive how we are managing biosecurity and bio-risk from an organizational or enterprise viewpoint, I was concerned.

00:18:13.000 And I actually raised these concerns at executive meetings.

00:18:17.000 You know, it's really difficult to understand what's going or happening in the daily operations or functioning of a bio lab unless you have your own people working there and reporting it.

00:18:28.000 You really have to put a lot of trust into these other laboratories and the people that are running those laboratories when you're a different content and away across an ocean.

00:18:38.000 And to go along with that, so going back to the understanding of the risk of back coronavirus emergence proposal that was funded by Dr. Anthony Fauci and NIH to EcoHealth Alliance and its partners, Dr. Ralph Barrick and the Wuhan Institute of Virology, there's a page on there that everyone had to submit in my field.

00:18:59.000 It's called the select agent form.

00:19:01.000 So when you're doing infectious disease research, you have to basically say whether or not you get to report whether or not it applies essentially.

00:19:08.000 And everything on this select agent form is a liar or an obfuscation by a mission.

00:19:15.000 So basically, they're supposed to detail whether or not they're doing in this gain of function work.

00:19:19.000 They don't say that they're doing this gain of function work, but all throughout the proposal, it basically lays out the gain of function work that they're doing.

00:19:26.000 And the worst part is under NIH regulation or policy, the principal investigator, that being Dr. Dask, is responsible for any work that happens or is conducted with that funding, meaning he's ultimately responsible for anything that happens at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:19:42.000 Well, what you're supposed to have in place is something called a biological safety officer and an institutional biosafety committee to conduct this kind of research at your institution, this institution being Equal Health Alliance.

00:19:55.000 Well, we didn't have a biological safety officer.

00:19:57.000 We didn't have an institutional biosafety committee.

00:20:01.000 And furthermore, then they break the law again on this form.

00:20:04.000 And down in the small print at the bottom, they say basically say that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is going to be conducting all this work.

00:20:11.000 So we don't have to be worried about it.

00:20:13.000 But that's a direct violation of NIH policy.

00:20:17.000 You're not allowed to do that.

00:20:18.000 So how this work even gets approved in the first place, I don't know.

00:20:22.000 And when this proposal was handed to me, I was new at Equal Health Alliance.

00:20:25.000 I had probably only been there a month or two.

00:20:27.000 And why they asked me to look at this thing, I really don't even understand why at this point.

00:20:32.000 It had already been funded.

00:20:34.000 Maybe they're trying to see whether or not it passed the SNF test, whether I thought it was going to go against the guidelines that this type of research was banned domestically.

00:20:44.000 But that's beside the point because my boss still agreed to do this.

00:20:48.000 It's highly unethical.

00:20:50.000 And that's another thing.

00:20:51.000 So in NIH policy and guidelines, it says that the principal investigator is conducting or would be engaging in an ethical violation by agreeing to do this work without having the biological security or safety officer or the institutional biosafety committee.

00:21:07.000 So there's all these problems, but somehow this thing still gets approved.

00:21:11.000 And it blows my mind.

00:21:13.000 So let's talk about the leak itself from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:21:19.000 What do you know about how that virus got outside the walls and eventually made itself to patient zero?

00:21:29.000 Do you talk about that in the book?

00:21:30.000 This is something that has always remained a mystery to me.

00:21:33.000 I do.

00:21:34.000 And this came to light really in the past year.

00:21:38.000 I mean, so the scientific, I'd say, consensus, and I hate saying that term because the scientific consensus has now been basically destroyed by maniacs like Dr. Anthony Fauci who say that I am the science. 0.84

00:21:50.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

00:21:51.000 Most scientific studies can't be replicated.

00:21:53.000 I mean, that's important for your audience to know.

00:21:56.000 In the media, oftentimes they point to this.

00:21:58.000 This one study has the answer.

00:21:59.000 Well, they call this the replication crisis.

00:22:02.000 The vast majority of medical studies cannot be replicated.

00:22:06.000 The field that I'm an expert in is epidemiology.

00:22:09.000 And the first cases of this disease emerge in Wuhan in late August or early September of 2019.

00:22:16.000 It's been replicated independently by different scientists using different data sources.

00:22:21.000 It looks like those first cases spread to Europe.

00:22:23.000 So it doesn't, we don't know who patient zero is.

00:22:26.000 Likely, or most probably, it was a laboratory worker at the Wuhan Institute of Virology that was working and lax biosafety conditions, not having the proper, working at the proper biosafety level for the dangerous things that they were working with.

00:22:41.000 Then what happens is the Chinese government goes into panic buying mode, trying to buy containment equipment to get control of the leak.

00:22:48.000 So they figure out quickly that there's a leak happening.

00:22:52.000 They're like, well, okay, well, you know, we have to plug the leak.

00:22:54.000 And so they start buying all sorts of things.

00:22:58.000 But the disease is already spreading around the planet by this point.

00:23:01.000 And they actually institute a series of lockdown measures to start panic buying PPE from all over the globe.

00:23:08.000 And all this is happening while this disease is spreading.

00:23:12.000 And the U.S. government, at least, isn't notifying the American people.

00:23:15.000 I mean, I find it almost impossible to believe based on what I used to do for the government developing these type of technologies to detect these types of types of events that they didn't know.

00:23:26.000 And, you know, people talk about event 201.

00:23:28.000 Well, I think event 201 was actually the world sort of conditioning everyone for about what was to happen.

00:23:36.000 So I think some people were in the know that this disease was already spreading and they were trying to figure out how they could get ahead of it.

00:23:41.000 Actually used to conduct uh tabletop exercises as a public.

00:23:46.000 Do you believe the leak of the virus was intentional or unintentional?

00:23:51.000 I think all the evidence um, and I talk about this in the book and I go into detail of it.

00:23:55.000 So this is a type of intelligence analysis called a scenario analysis.

00:23:59.000 You don't have all the facts, but you have a lot of circumstantial evidence and you have some hard facts.

00:24:03.000 And then you have to look at the people and you say well, what people on the planet would want to do this?

00:24:07.000 Why would they want to do that intentionally act and what are the other potential scenarios that it could be and why would they engage in one versus the other?

00:24:15.000 So for this to be an intentional event, it doesn't make sense, and that's for a number of reasons.

00:24:19.000 So first of all, you have to realize China has some um suffered tremendously through this.

00:24:24.000 The Chinese people have um the.

00:24:26.000 The Chinese Communist Party did not benefit from this. 0.84

00:24:28.000 Everyone says oh, China got rich off this.

00:24:30.000 Actually, the Chinese uh gross domestic product shrank um just like everybody else's uh during covet um, you could argue, well, the Chinese uh communists probably wanted to do this for control.

00:24:40.000 But actually, if you look at the stated uh, intentions and objectives of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:24:45.000 They wanted to increase their enrollment of party members, I think uh, up to 10 million in China.

00:24:51.000 They want to have greater dominance and control. 0.93

00:24:55.000 So intentionally, for the Chinese to intentionally release an agent in their own country is suicide, especially if you don't have an effective countermeasure for it. 0.99

00:25:03.000 I mean, that's the whole way bioweapons typically work. 0.96

00:25:05.000 You only use one if you have the countermeasures.

00:25:06.000 That doesn't come back onto your home turf.

00:25:08.000 So this whole idea that it was intentionally released, I don't, I don't buy it.

00:25:11.000 I haven't seen the evidence for it.

00:25:13.000 Um, you know, another possible potential thing is it could be a false flag.

00:25:17.000 Well or, people said the United States put it in China.

00:25:20.000 Well, I don't believe that either, because there is no faster way to start a global nuclear war than releasing a pandemic potential novel virus in another country.

00:25:30.000 I mean it it it, it's just, it's not fathomable.

00:25:33.000 And whether the agent or not is a bioweapon.

00:25:36.000 Well yes, it's a bioweapon by traditional uh, like sort of textbook definition if you analyze it.

00:25:42.000 They did, they took an infectious agent, they did gain a function, work on it.

00:25:46.000 Um, they made it worse.

00:25:47.000 Okay uh, was it dual use, research of concern.

00:25:50.000 Can it be used for peaceful or weaponized purposes?

00:25:53.000 Yes, but as a bioweapon itself, it's not a good bioweapon, because it doesn't knock your enemy flat on the ground, it doesn't debilitate them.

00:26:00.000 You could argue that it is potentially a new asymmetrical bioweapon, when I sort of came up with that while I was writing the book, because you could say, well, it's like a bioterrorism agent or attack, where it instills a lot of fear in the population, but it doesn't have the effect of uh crippling.

00:26:17.000 And what that fear does, though, is it allows you to assume more power control and maybe a potential aspect of economic warfare.

00:26:25.000 But like I say, it doesn't really do that very well if it harms everyone on the planet, including yourself.

00:26:30.000 OK, so if if that's if that's correct and it was unintentional, then why was China and still China so, so hostile towards any sort of international investigation into the origins or investigation?

00:26:47.000 Why did doctors disappear and whistleblowers were excommunicated?

00:26:53.000 Wouldn't they just open it up and say, yeah, this thing leaked.

00:26:58.000 No, I don't think so. 0.51

00:26:59.000 And so the other thing about the Chinese kind of answers.

00:27:02.000 There's a simple analogy here, which will help you understand.

00:27:05.000 So Chernobyl.

00:27:07.000 So when Chernobyl happens, the Soviets realize, you know, first of all, internally at Chernobyl itself, they're denying whether or not an explosion took place. 0.51

00:27:16.000 Then the next thing that happens, they're denying to the rest of the Soviet Republic that there is a terrible radioactive disaster taking place to their own people. 0.74

00:27:26.000 That's how communism works. 0.53

00:27:27.000 And actually, they kept on messaging that at Chernobyl until it gets to the point where radioactive isotopes are picked up by Western scientists or NATO scientists in Western Europe.

00:27:40.000 So if you look at the behavior of one former communist country organization, and then you compare it as an analogy to what happened in Wuhan, it's almost exactly the same thing.

00:27:51.000 The whole tactic is you actually lose more credibility as the Chinese Communist Party by having the leak take place. 0.68

00:27:57.000 I mean, nothing would be a bigger threat to the Chinese Communist Party than everyone in China finding out that their own country got them sick, killed millions of their own people.

00:28:08.000 And that's why we're seeing the revolt on the streets. 0.68

00:28:10.000 I think the Chinese are even starting to figure out what the heck's going on, and they're not happy about it.

00:28:15.000 And so this crazy thing about, I guess, 2022, 2023, where we're headed, is that we're seeing this global power struggle erupt over this laboratory leak disease where the global elite, and I sound like Alex Jones now, I never thought, you know, I'd be saying things like he used to say a year or two ago. 0.71

00:28:34.000 The global elite and the wealthiest families on the planet have taken, you know, used their power and influence to really dominate the future economic conditions, which we exist or they're trying to.

00:28:45.000 And this is the power play that we see playing out all over the globe right now in different countries.

00:28:51.000 Dr. Andrew Huff, stay here.

00:28:53.000 I have more questions.

00:28:54.000 I'm not convinced.

00:28:55.000 I'll be honest.

00:28:56.000 I think the CCP, too many people benefited from this.

00:29:00.000 I'll be honest.

00:29:00.000 It was too convenient.

00:29:01.000 It was foreshadowed far too often from Gates.

00:29:04.000 And it could just be confirmation bias.

00:29:06.000 And that's fine.

00:29:07.000 It's just, it was so perfect. 0.60

00:29:09.000 It destroyed the Western economy.

00:29:11.000 It got Donald Trump out of the White House.

00:29:13.000 Now, it could be it was a bad thing that was capitalized by bad people.

00:29:16.000 That's the other explanation.

00:29:18.000 That's what I believe.

00:29:19.000 No, that's fine.

00:29:20.000 That's a reasonable thing.

00:29:21.000 I just, I have such, I have so little trust in anything that I hear that you'll leave it at that.

00:29:31.000 Instead of saying that it was a mistake, I think that it's not implausible, in my opinion, that somebody might have made the Wuhan Institute of Virology standards sloppier than they need to be.

00:29:45.000 And it's almost, there's another thing about this that never really resonated.

00:29:48.000 It's that, yes, the virus wasn't a bioweapon.

00:29:50.000 And wouldn't that be an easier way to justify it to yourself?

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00:30:51.000 So, doctor, in some ways, it really doesn't matter.

00:30:54.000 In some ways, it really is important of whether or not it was leaked intentionally or unintentionally.

00:30:59.000 But it is important in the sense that the American government was funding this research that then ended up killing hundreds of thousands of Americans and basically changing our world forever.

00:31:12.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:31:13.000 And after I leave Equal Health Alliance in 2016, it doesn't stop.

00:31:17.000 I don't know if you're familiar with the DARPA Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency diffuse proposal, which was leaked to Charles Rixie.

00:31:26.000 And Charles Rixie and I have been friends.

00:31:28.000 He's a former former Marine Corps weapons and mass destruction officer and expert.

00:31:33.000 And you go into that proposal and they write in that proposal specifically everything that you would need to do to exactly make and manufacture SARS-CoV-2 as it's leaked.

00:31:46.000 And if you actually look at the unredacted emails that have been released in the last tranche of emails that were released from Dr. Anthony Fauci or NIH, they talk about, you know, there's a couple of email sentences in the click about like, oh, it looks like, you know, the Chinese were doing the project that we are working on.

00:32:03.000 Well, here's a simple fact that your audience needs to know.

00:32:06.000 The best scientists in the world get these big grants and contracts from the U.S. government or foundations by doing the work before you receive the money.

00:32:19.000 And it's a condition of receiving an NIH, what's called an R01, which is the best grant you get as an individual principal investigator or a U01 multi-center proposal or grant from NIH, that you have to have preliminary data and results to justify them giving you the money.

00:32:36.000 Well, typically you've already got a year to two years of work done on the project before NIH even gives you the money.

00:32:42.000 So you can start publishing on this thing the second you get the money.

00:32:45.000 Sometimes you already have.

00:32:46.000 Sometimes you're just sitting on it waiting for the opportune or strategic moment to do it.

00:32:50.000 I witnessed all these things at Eagle Health Alliance.

00:32:52.000 We used to work ahead all the time.

00:32:54.000 If you go ask any great scientist in any discipline outside of medicine, my wife works in forestry.

00:33:00.000 She's a forestry professor.

00:33:01.000 She has two to three years of funding lined up and she's constantly or continually working ahead because just because someone doesn't give you a grant or a contract doesn't mean that you stop working.

00:33:10.000 And you know, you're best where the best chances of getting more money is having something new and exciting to work on.

00:33:14.000 The way you do that is by working ahead.

00:33:17.000 So when DARPA says we didn't fund the diffuse proposal, what do you think really went on?

00:33:22.000 I mean, do you think that they weren't working ahead to get the money?

00:33:26.000 Going back to 2014, when they were working on the gain of function, that coronavirus emergency proposal, they state clearly, and like I said, you can go look at the document yourself.

00:33:36.000 I have the original copy.

00:33:37.000 They were working ahead and doing the gain of function work with samples they had coronavirus samples they had collected with China.

00:33:43.000 And they did that with USAID Predict.

00:33:45.000 So this is just a continuation and this was a disaster waiting to happen.

00:33:49.000 Like I said before, they didn't, Equal Health Alliance didn't have the proper bio-risk management framework in place to make sure that accidents or disasters like this didn't happen.

00:34:00.000 And then if this is coupled with, and I talk about this in the book, that there are a number of cables from the State Department and the FDA that had been in this laboratory and they're talking about what a biosecurity risk or nightmare this is.

00:34:14.000 And those are the unclassified reports.

00:34:16.000 I can only imagine that there's probably more classified communications about this.

00:34:20.000 Usually it's like surveillance violence.

00:34:22.000 You find a little bit of it.

00:34:23.000 Well, how much more of the real thing is hidden somewhere with a classification stamp on it?

00:34:28.000 And what helps me put this into context is that, you know, because I did work in the top secret side of these things and I can't talk about that.

00:34:35.000 But what it does do is it informs my ability to put things into context.

00:34:41.000 And the U.S. government's a huge beast.

00:34:44.000 The classified space is a huge beast.

00:34:45.000 And I firmly believe a lot of what the intelligence community and the Department of Defense does protects us and keeps us safe.

00:34:52.000 It's not that we need to get rid of it.

00:34:55.000 You know, the problem is when there are disasters like this and people go into panic mode, if the government decides to do a cover-up, how do you ever find out about it?

00:35:02.000 I mean, none of these emails between Dr. Anthony Fauci, the Eco Health Alliance, and these private foundations should be redacted.

00:35:09.000 I mean, this is academic research, which was safe reportedly.

00:35:14.000 funded through a research entity and they're redacting names off of emails and the content of emails.

00:35:20.000 Why?

00:35:21.000 I mean, why would you ever need to, can you imagine universities having to redact information about research they're doing?

00:35:26.000 I mean, that's essentially what happened here.

00:35:28.000 And the reason why they do that is simple.

00:35:30.000 They're covering up the biggest disaster in history.

00:35:34.000 It's a huge cover-up, as your book says.

00:35:37.000 The truth about Wuhan by Dr. Andrew Huff.

00:35:39.000 Thank you so much.

00:35:40.000 Excellent job.

00:35:41.000 Thank you.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 07, 2022

The Biggest Lie in History with Dr. Andrew Huff

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