The Charlie Kirk Show - The Biggest Project Veritas Story Ever with Sen. J.D. Vance and James O'Keefe

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00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk show, we got James O'Keefe on the story with Pfizer, JD Vance on Ukraine.

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00:01:03.000 I think it's so wrong what we are doing with Ukraine. 0.99

00:01:08.000 I think that sending tanks to Ukraine is a major mistake.

00:01:16.000 This last election cycle was disappointing in a lot of different ways.

00:01:23.000 There were a few highlights for me, though.

00:01:25.000 Getting Ana Paulina elected was definitely a highlight.

00:01:29.000 And the other highlight for me was seeing JD Vance become senator.

00:01:35.000 JD Vance, and he joins us now.

00:01:37.000 Senator, welcome to the program.

00:01:39.000 And boy, does it feel good to say that.

00:01:41.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:01:42.000 It's great to be with you.

00:01:43.000 So, Senator, tell me how should we think about Ukraine?

00:01:47.000 You had a lively but mostly peaceful conversation with Brian Kilmead, where you asked the question, what is our ultimate objective?

00:01:54.000 How should we think about Ukraine?

00:01:57.000 Well, I think in two ways, Charlie.

00:01:59.000 First, we should think, what is our ultimate objective right now?

00:02:01.000 And if I think the Biden administration was being honest, what they would tell you is the ultimate objective here for them is to use as many American weapons and as many American lives to get Russia bogged down in a long-term conflict.

00:02:15.000 And look, I have no love for Russia. 0.71

00:02:17.000 It's not my country.

00:02:18.000 America is my country.

00:02:19.000 But I think that poses certain risks, risks of escalating a conflict, risk of the conflict further involving Europe, risks, potentially of a nuclear war, God forbid, if Russia feels bordered.

00:02:31.000 And those are all things that we have to include and think about in our own calculus.

00:02:36.000 I think the flip side of it, Charlie, is I ask myself, what is the cost to the United States of this war?

00:02:42.000 And I think the cost is simply too high.

00:02:45.000 We don't really know how much money has been spent in Ukraine.

00:02:48.000 It's probably north of $120 million at this point.

00:02:51.000 Just to put that in perspective, Charlie, we spent $60 billion on all of Homeland Security.

00:02:56.000 That's border security and everything else that DHS does.

00:02:59.000 So we're talking about twice what we spent securing our own border has gone to the Ukraine.

00:03:05.000 And also, it's made our military weaker.

00:03:08.000 We've got the leadership of the Defense Department telling us that we don't have enough munitions.

00:03:12.000 We don't have enough equipment for our own military because we sent so much of it to Ukraine.

00:03:18.000 So we need to rebuild that capacity.

00:03:20.000 But while we're rebuilding that capacity, let's not send it all to a country that ultimately doesn't affect our core national security interests.

00:03:26.000 And that's what I'm trying to hammer as much as possible in Washington.

00:03:31.000 Yeah, this is a rational way to look at it.

00:03:33.000 And I want to encourage you and also applaud you for having prudence when it comes to this because so many of our leaders don't.

00:03:41.000 So I want our team to get a clip of Lindsey Graham.

00:03:45.000 I'm not going to ask you to attack any of your colleagues, but I'm sure you disagree.

00:03:49.000 Lindsey Graham says that we need to send whatever it takes to retake Ukraine.

00:03:52.000 We've got to escalate this while flanked by Sheldon White House and Senator Wyden.

00:03:57.000 You've been a senator now for only a couple weeks.

00:03:59.000 So can you just enlighten me and our audience?

00:04:03.000 What is the private chatter amongst senators?

00:04:06.000 Do they really believe in this fight in Ukraine?

00:04:09.000 Have they thought this through?

00:04:10.000 I can't imagine they have while still saying these things publicly.

00:04:14.000 Again, I'm not asking you to say anything negative about your colleagues, but at least enlighten me.

00:04:17.000 What are the differences?

00:04:19.000 Give some clarity to my confusion here because I do not understand it.

00:04:23.000 Yeah, I think the difference between me and frankly, a majority or at least a lot of my Senate colleagues on the Republican side is that they tend to look at this in very moralistic terms, right?

00:04:32.000 Putin bad, Ukraine, good, and therefore we want to support the good guys.

00:04:35.000 And that motivates a lot of the underlying thinking here.

00:04:39.000 And my view is, look, foreign policy is way too complicated.

00:04:43.000 You can accept that one, you know, that Putin is bad and that Ukrainians have every right to defend their territory while also asking yourself, what are the risks to us?

00:04:52.000 What are the advantages to us?

00:04:53.000 And how do we make sure that this doesn't become a wider conflict that really screws us over in the end?

00:04:59.000 The other piece of this, Charlie, is that we have to recognize America is not all powerful.

00:05:04.000 We should have learned that over the last 20 years.

00:05:06.000 We've had a quagmire after quagmire after quagmire in foreign policy.

00:05:10.000 And I'm looking around saying, man, we can only focus on one major threat at a time.

00:05:14.000 And right now, the thing that I think we should be focused on is China, the risk that it poses to our economy, the way in which the Chinese are sending kilos of fentanyl into our country, weakening our people, killing our people. 0.99

00:05:26.000 That, to me, is the real focus here.

00:05:29.000 And when you have our own defense department saying we are going to have to choose between sending weapons to Ukraine or arming our own troops, that is not a hard decision.

00:05:38.000 And unfortunately, I think not enough people are engaged in the very tough, ruthless cost-benefit analysis that we have to do when it comes to this conflict.

00:05:47.000 I mean, yet Ukraine is not America, period.

00:05:50.000 So in Play Cut 70, just so that, you know, everyone heard JD's opinion here, and I totally agree with it.

00:05:57.000 I sympathize with it.

00:05:58.000 But let's contrast that with Lindsey Graham flanked by two of the most liberal people, not Wyden.

00:06:04.000 I'm sorry.

00:06:04.000 It was Blumenthal and White House.

00:06:07.000 They sometimes kind of all blur in my memory.

00:06:10.000 So play cut 70 of Lindsey Graham saying, we need to go all in.

00:06:15.000 Play cut 70.

00:06:17.000 Kevin McCarthy said no blank checks.

00:06:19.000 That makes sense to me.

00:06:21.000 We're not asking for a blank check.

00:06:23.000 I'm not.

00:06:24.000 I'm asking for military aid to accomplish the purpose of driving Russian invaders out of Ukraine. 0.95

00:06:31.000 If Putin gets away with this, there goes Taiwan.

00:06:36.000 If Putin's successful in Ukraine is not prosecuted under international law, everything we said since World War II becomes a joke.

00:06:45.000 He will continue beyond Ukraine.

00:06:50.000 It is that's a very interesting argument, JD, because he hasn't really been successful in Ukraine.

00:06:55.000 So how would he continue beyond Ukraine?

00:06:58.000 But again, I just want our audience to understand the differences of opinion here.

00:07:03.000 JD, has anyone told you what the limit of money is here or what is the level of escalation that they're unwilling to get to?

00:07:12.000 No, I've never been told where we're eventually going to stop here.

00:07:18.000 It's very clear that I think a lot of people are willing to write checks indefinitely so long as this thing keeps going on.

00:07:24.000 And look, Charlie, it could go on for many years.

00:07:26.000 But just to address what Lindsay said, I mean, first of all, like Lindsay and I get along very well.

00:07:31.000 He's a good colleague, but I don't agree with him on this, Charlie.

00:07:34.000 And here's why I don't agree with him.

00:07:36.000 I think that too many in American foreign policy leadership have overlearned the lessons of World War II and not learned the lessons of other major world conflicts.

00:07:46.000 Not everything is World War II in repeat.

00:07:48.000 There's also World War I, of course, which was a relatively minor regional conflict that blew up into a massive continental scale war that killed millions and millions of innocent people because cooler heads didn't prevail.

00:08:02.000 So, the question here is not: do we surrender to Vladimir Putin?

00:08:06.000 Vladimir Putin is clearly not powerful enough.

00:08:09.000 You know, you've heard people say he might take over half of Europe.

00:08:11.000 He's not powerful enough to take over half of Europe.

00:08:14.000 That's not something that we should even be concerned about, not because he might not be willing to do it, but because he cannot do it.

00:08:21.000 He doesn't have the ability to do it.

00:08:23.000 And so, when you're dealing with a weakened Russia and you're dealing with the Ukrainian situation that we have right now, I'm looking around saying, why aren't we focused on China?

00:08:31.000 Why aren't we focused on the things that are clearly a national security threat to our own country?

00:08:36.000 I do not think that Vladimir Putin has the ability to attack half of Europe.

00:08:42.000 And because I don't think that, whether he is successful or unsuccessful in Ukraine is a much narrower question.

00:08:49.000 I don't want him to be successful, but whether he's successful does not bear on the security of France.

00:08:55.000 It just doesn't.

00:08:56.000 It bears on the security of that very narrow slice of the world.

00:09:00.000 The much bigger problem is China, and we have to focus on that. 0.99

00:09:04.000 Thank you so much, JD Vance.

00:09:06.000 You are fighting with clarity and courage.

00:09:08.000 Senator JD Vance, appreciate it.

00:09:10.000 Thank you so much.

00:09:11.000 Thanks, Charlotte.

00:09:12.000 Good to see you, man.

00:09:14.000 Okay, I do want to play this piece of tape.

00:09:15.000 I do want to make sure this does not get overlooked because it just really summarizes the entire topic of this German, this Ukraine issue.

00:09:25.000 The German foreign minister has to be really careful.

00:09:29.000 He says NATO is now at war with Russia.

00:09:32.000 That means we're at war with Russia.

00:09:35.000 That's a big deal.

00:09:37.000 This is not some sort of theory.

00:09:39.000 It's not some sort of abstraction.

00:09:40.000 Oh, we might go to.

00:09:41.000 No, no.

00:09:42.000 The German foreign minister is now saying we are fighting a war against Russia.

00:09:46.000 Did we sign up for that?

00:09:47.000 Did we vote for that?

00:09:48.000 Are you going to have your son or daughter be drafted into the military to go fight Russians?

00:09:54.000 People that we should be partners with in the fight against the CCP.

00:09:59.000 Play cut 69.

00:10:02.000 And therefore, I've said already in the last days: yes, we have to do more to defend Ukraine.

00:10:08.000 Yes, we have to do more also on tanks.

00:10:11.000 But the most important and the crucial part is that we do it together and that we do not do the blame game in Europe because we are fighting a war against Russia and not against each other.

00:10:27.000 Ik bin Hayn insane. 0.95

00:10:32.000 Ridiculously irresponsible for her to be saying that. 0.85

00:10:36.000 To say that we are now at war against Russia, Ukraine is not part of NATO. 0.59

00:10:43.000 This is no longer, oh, it could get us into some sort of a conflict.

00:10:48.000 We are an errant missile away or a German soldier from being killed from getting into something that could then get wildly out of control.

00:10:58.000 In a strange way, I know this is kind of a bad handoff, but it seems so coordinated that we close down our operation in Afghanistan and then we open up an operation in Ukraine.

00:11:12.000 I would much rather have these clowns playing around in Afghanistan in rather low-stakes geopolitics, not helpful for the country, than focus all their energy on a nuclear-armed power and a dictator, Vladimir Putin, that we don't know how far he's willing to push it.

00:11:38.000 So irresponsible. 0.94

00:11:40.000 But that's never been their mandate responsibility.

00:11:46.000 Saying that we are fighting a war against Russia that we are financing and via proxy to only increase the temperature.

00:11:58.000 Why is there not an effort?

00:12:00.000 Well, we know the answer, why, but to try to broker peace.

00:12:04.000 Joe, what has Joe Biden done materially to try to bring us closer to peace?

00:12:10.000 Anything in life, sometimes you have to make concessions.

00:12:14.000 Okay, the eastern part of Ukraine is largely homogeneously Russian.

00:12:19.000 They speak Russian, they're culturally Russian, and they want to be Russian.

00:12:24.000 You can have an election, and they've had it before.

00:12:27.000 They want to be part of Russia. 0.87

00:12:30.000 The western part of Ukraine wants to be part of Ukraine.

00:12:34.000 And it's not scientific or mathematically simple to be able to find the actual determining place, but you're going to have to make a decision at some point.

00:12:44.000 Why is there?

00:12:47.000 Let me say it differently.

00:12:49.000 When was the last time you heard anybody say the phrase peace negotiations or ceasefire?

00:12:54.000 Anybody.

00:12:55.000 That shows that this entire thing is being managed by irresponsible people.

00:13:02.000 Why is there not at least every day someone saying we're trying to have peace negotiations?

00:13:09.000 It seems that they want war for the sake of war.

00:13:14.000 And I know this is a very bizarre thing because now I feel like the 1970s hippie person.

00:13:18.000 Make love, not war.

00:13:19.000 Honestly, we want peace in this regard.

00:13:24.000 And the very political party, the Democrats, that are supposed to be the party of free love and peace and psychedelic mushrooms, they're the ones that are the most enthusiastic to funnel weapons and tanks and missiles to increase the temperature in Ukraine.

00:13:42.000 And I will ask this question again: what does success look like?

00:13:47.000 If you say success is to drive every Russian out of Ukraine, you're living in Narnia. 0.99

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00:14:45.000 What Project Veritas has been able to do and be able to pull off is incredible.

00:14:49.000 Let's play some of this tape as we're attempting to get James O'Keefe, PlayCut 86, which is hidden camera of Jordan Tristan Walker, who's the Pfizer Director of Research and Development Strategic Operations and MRNA Scientific Planning, tells Project Veritas: We're exploring how the virus keeps mutating.

00:15:10.000 Well, one of the things we're exploring is like, you know, how the virus keeps mutating.

00:15:16.000 Said it again.

00:15:17.000 I think he was drunk.

00:15:18.000 So we could preemptively develop new vaccines so we don't have to do that.

00:15:24.000 If we're going to do that, there's a risk of life.

00:15:25.000 As you can imagine, no one wants to have a pharma company mutating effing viruses.

00:15:31.000 They're doing gain of function research.

00:15:33.000 PlayCut 86.

00:15:35.000 We're exploring like novel.

00:15:36.000 You know how the virus keeps mutating?

00:15:38.000 Yeah.

00:15:38.000 Well, one of the things we're exploring is like, why don't we just mutate ourselves so we can work on new vaccines, right?

00:15:45.000 We have to do that.

00:15:46.000 If we're going to do that, though, there's a risk.

00:15:48.000 As you could imagine, no one wants to be having a pharma company mutating viruses.

00:15:53.000 Yeah.

00:15:54.000 Like, do we want to do this?

00:15:56.000 So that's like what these are considering.

00:15:58.000 Okay.

00:15:59.000 Maybe we can create new versions of the vaccines and things like that.

00:16:03.000 Okay.

00:16:03.000 So Pfizer ultimately is thinking about mutating COVID.

00:16:08.000 Well, that is not what we say to the public.

00:16:11.000 No.

00:16:12.000 That's why it was a thought that came up at a meeting, and we were like, why do we not?

00:16:16.000 It was like, we're going to consider that.

00:16:18.000 There'll be more discussions.

00:16:19.000 Okay.

00:16:20.000 Exactly actually.

00:16:21.000 We're like, wait a minute.

00:16:24.000 James O'Keefe from Project Veritas joins us now.

00:16:29.000 James, welcome back to the program.

00:16:30.000 Congratulations on this incredible story and what you've been able to discover here.

00:16:36.000 We have all the clips and I want to throw to them, but first I want to welcome James.

00:16:38.000 James, welcome back to the program.

00:16:40.000 Hey, Charlie, great to be with you.

00:16:43.000 It's a bombshell story.

00:16:44.000 Walk us through it.

00:16:46.000 Well, no, this is the first installment, Charlie.

00:16:48.000 We have another video coming out here later today.

00:16:53.000 And this is a Pfizer director.

00:16:54.000 He's not a low-level guy.

00:16:57.000 We obtained internal documents showing that he does mRNA research.

00:17:03.000 He has a doctorate.

00:17:05.000 And he went to Yale, actually.

00:17:07.000 So he's not a little person.

00:17:09.000 He's talking about the things he doesn't want the people to know.

00:17:11.000 He says, don't tell anybody.

00:17:12.000 He was very emphatic about our journalists not sharing this with anybody about some of the things they're doing, experimenting on animals, changing the language from, like you said, gain of function to what he called directed evolution.

00:17:27.000 And Charlie, as of this moment, this is the most watched Project Veritas video in the history of Project Veritas.

00:17:36.000 And we also have whistleblowers coming to us from within Pfizer, even last night after this has been released.

00:17:44.000 It's incredible.

00:17:45.000 So let's play some of that tape here.

00:17:46.000 We played one of them.

00:17:47.000 Let's play another.

00:17:48.000 I want to get your reaction here.

00:17:49.000 The most watched video ever.

00:17:50.000 Again, this guy has a lot of power.

00:17:52.000 He says, quote, don't tell anyone this.

00:17:54.000 There is a risk.

00:17:55.000 Have to be very controlled to make sure this virus you mutate doesn't create something the way that the virus started in you Wuhan.

00:18:01.000 Whoa.

00:18:02.000 So now not only are we getting confirmation that Pfizer is doing what should be illegal gain of function research here domestically, but now he's just casually saying we know that it came from Wuhan.

00:18:14.000 Play Cut 87.

00:18:16.000 So the way that we're thinking about it, don't tell anyone this.

00:18:18.000 You got to probably tell you.

00:18:19.000 You got to probably tell me.

00:18:23.000 So the way it would work is like we put them in the virus in these monkeys.

00:18:29.000 And then we successively causing them to keep infecting each other.

00:18:32.000 And we collect serial samples from them.

00:18:33.000 And then the ones that are more infectious, like the virus, we'll put them in another monkey and just constantly actively mutate it.

00:18:40.000 That's one way.

00:18:40.000 But you have to be like very controlled to make sure that there's virus that you mutate because you create something like, you know, stones everywhere.

00:18:46.000 Something crazy.

00:18:48.000 Is the way that the virus started a little bit out of it, to be honest?

00:18:50.000 Like it makes no sense if these viruses pop out of nowhere.

00:18:53.000 Yeah, I know.

00:18:54.000 But I think they're also just trying to do it as an exploratory thing because you obviously don't want to advertise that you're trying to put out features between each other.

00:19:00.000 James, your reaction.

00:19:02.000 I mean, Charlie, it's hard to believe that people like this exist.

00:19:08.000 My reaction is not being a doctor is just the conceit, the arrogance, the greed, the total lack of introspection, the narcissism. 0.96

00:19:18.000 If these are the medical professionals who are in charge of the vaccine and in charge of our health, then we're screwed.

00:19:27.000 And also, I did, I just want to confirm that I did speak with this individual in New York City two nights ago.

00:19:33.000 I had an encounter with him.

00:19:35.000 I asked him for comment, and that video will be coming out here imminently.

00:19:41.000 I can't wait to see that.

00:19:42.000 So let me play another piece of tape here.

00:19:45.000 It's Jordan Tristian Walker: How Pfizer is a revolving door for government officials.

00:19:50.000 Play cut 88.

00:19:52.000 Pfizer is a revolving door for all government officials.

00:19:54.000 Wow.

00:19:55.000 Yeah, for any industry, though.

00:19:56.000 So, like, and the farm industry, all the government officials who are like, you know, they're hot drugs, especially come work for a pharmacy.

00:20:02.000 Like for the military, like all the army of defense, like governor officials eventually go work for the defense company operates.

00:20:08.000 How do you feel about that revolving door?

00:20:10.000 Like, it's pretty good for the industry, to be honest.

00:20:13.000 Yeah.

00:20:14.000 It's bad for everyone else in America.

00:20:15.000 Why is it bad for everybody else?

00:20:17.000 Because if the regulators are pro-hot drugs, you know, that once they stop being a regulator, they want to go work for the company.

00:20:22.000 Then I have these hearts like James.

00:20:27.000 Where is law enforcement here?

00:20:29.000 This is high-stakes stuff.

00:20:31.000 This is unbelievable, James.

00:20:33.000 Well, I mean, that's the question: what can Congress do?

00:20:36.000 And I have been in touch with U.S. senators and representatives.

00:20:41.000 But the problem is, Charlie, is that we have a Department of Justice that seems to be in alliance with Pfizer.

00:20:46.000 In fact, Judicial Watch unearthed documents showing that the Department of Justice and Pfizer were speaking to each other about Project Veritas.

00:20:55.000 How do you have a justice or accountability with our law enforcement agencies when they're working in a symbiotic relationship with pharmaceutical companies?

00:21:04.000 The best accountability we can have is to have these people's faces on video like this, treat a groundswell.

00:21:09.000 The fact that the people on the left side of the aisle have said nothing about the story means it's bulletproof.

00:21:15.000 They're probably shocked as well, but won't publicly admit it.

00:21:19.000 It's just incredible.

00:21:21.000 Dr. Robert Malone responds to these, the story, play cut 97.

00:21:26.000 You're gaining function.

00:21:28.000 You're creating a new function in virus one by adding elements from virus two, infecting one monkey and then another monkey.

00:21:37.000 That's called serial passage.

00:21:39.000 That appears to have been one of the technologies deployed in the Wuhan Institute of Virology with the humanized mouse strains that I believe were obtained from EcoHealth Alliance.

00:21:52.000 That's an example of directed evolution.

00:21:54.000 The gentleman seems to have absolutely no moral compass at all about what he's doing.

00:22:02.000 This is beyond a bombshell, everybody, of what we are learning that Pfizer is actively doing.

00:22:08.000 And if you type Pfizer into Google, there is not a single media story about this.

00:22:13.000 You type Pfizer into Google, it says FDA does not see increased rise of stroke for seniors who receive Pfizer's Omicron vaccine.

00:22:22.000 Pfizer gains as market dips.

00:22:24.000 Their stock is up.

00:22:25.000 Thanks, Pfizer meme.

00:22:27.000 How COVID vaccine videos sparked a backlash.

00:22:30.000 One more here, Cut 98.

00:22:32.000 I'm going to get James to respond.

00:22:33.000 Play cut 98 as Dr. Robert Malone continued.

00:22:36.000 And the gentleman in your investigative work has clearly indicated that Pfizer believes that it has successfully captured the regulatory apparatus of the United States government and presumably worldwide.

00:22:53.000 Pfizer has completed regulatory capture, is quite proud of it.

00:22:59.000 They have completed regulatory capture.

00:23:02.000 James, one minute remaining, your closing thoughts.

00:23:05.000 Well, I think it's that that goes to the revolving door comments that this individual made to us and goes back to some of the reporting like Christopher Cole at the FDA, who made similar comments about a year ago.

00:23:18.000 This is the only way, Charlie, we're going to have accountability is to expose these people.

00:23:22.000 And we hope the people of the conscience watch this report.

00:23:25.000 Most watched Project Viratos video of all time, by the way.

00:23:28.000 We hope people have a conscience and come forward to Veritas Tips at ProtonMail.com.

00:23:33.000 It's going to be journalism that saves us.

00:23:35.000 It's going to be exposure and hopefully getting some bipartisanship on this issue.

00:23:40.000 I know as Americans, we don't agree on much, but I think we can all agree that lying to people about what you are doing is wrong, especially when it comes to public health, regardless of your position on the vaccine or the pandemic.

00:23:53.000 You shouldn't lie to customers about your product.

00:23:55.000 That's fraud.

00:23:56.000 And I hope this inspires people to come forward and be brave.

00:24:00.000 Very good.

00:24:01.000 James O'Keefe, everyone, check out Project Veritas and support them.

00:24:04.000 He is a hero.

00:24:05.000 It is a bombshell story.

00:24:07.000 It's extraordinary.

00:24:08.000 And I'm going to be encouraging many members of Congress to be sending out subpoenas like frisbees because Frizer needs to answer for this.

00:24:17.000 Is there gain of function research happening domestically here in America?

00:24:21.000 We're going to find out, and I will personally lobby for that.

00:24:25.000 Thank you, James.

00:24:26.000 God bless you.

00:24:26.000 Support Project Veritas.

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00:25:33.000 I want to play Ron DeSantis again on our program.

00:25:35.000 Sat down with him this morning, clarifying his position on the RNC race, and he has spoken out on the RNC race.

00:25:42.000 Donald Trump has not.

00:25:45.000 And I'm actually going to the RNC meeting right after this.

00:25:47.000 And then secondly, I want to get, okay, then we'll get to CUT 101.

00:25:50.000 So we got a lot to get to.

00:25:51.000 Not a lot of time to do it.

00:25:52.000 Let's play CUT 100.

00:25:53.000 Ron DeSantis on our show.

00:25:54.000 If you want to hear the entire conversation with Ron DeSantis, take out your phone and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:26:00.000 Play Cut 100.

00:26:01.000 Right now, the RNC is meeting in Dana Point, California.

00:26:05.000 And there are some questions of who should lead the RNC and whether it should be Rana for a fourth term or go a different direction with Harmeet Dylan.

00:26:14.000 What are your thoughts on this?

00:26:15.000 Well, we've had three substandard election cycles in a row, 18, 20, and 22.

00:26:22.000 And I would say of all three of those, 22 was probably the worst given the political environment of a very unpopular president and Biden.

00:26:31.000 Huge majorities of the people think the country's going in the wrong direction.

00:26:35.000 That is an environment that's tailor-made to make big gains in the House and the Senate and State House, state houses all across the country.

00:26:43.000 And yet that didn't happen.

00:26:44.000 And in fact, we even lost ground in the U.S. Senate.

00:26:47.000 And so, you know, I think we need a change.

00:26:50.000 I think we need to get some new blood in the RNC.

00:26:53.000 I like what Harmeet Dylan has said about getting the RNC out of D.C. Why would you want to have your headquarters in the most Democrat city in America?

00:27:04.000 It's more Democrat than San Francisco is.

00:27:07.000 So I think you get it in real parts of the country.

00:27:10.000 You attract people who want to live in those parts of the country, not DC insiders.

00:27:15.000 But I do think we need some fresh thinking.

00:27:17.000 And here's the thing, just practically speaking, you need grassroots Republicans to power this organization with volunteering and donations.

00:27:28.000 I think it's going to be very difficult to energize people to want to give money, to want to volunteer their time with the RNC if they don't see a change in direction.

00:27:38.000 Do you have any personal experience with the RNC?

00:27:41.000 I mean, because they'll say that Florida was one of their great successes this last cycle.

00:27:46.000 So we actually ran our election assuming we weren't going to be involved with the RNC at all because they weren't raising the type of money that they needed to be raising.

00:27:56.000 And so our get out the vote, our ground operation, we funded that.

00:28:00.000 We focused a lot on actually low propensity voters and we turned out a lot of low props, which is very, very good.

00:28:05.000 So it was very successful, you know, but that was really being driven by our agenda, our accomplishments, and us putting a lot of dollars behind this important ground game.

00:28:16.000 That clip is going viral.

00:28:18.000 Ron DeSantis calling for change at the RNC.

00:28:21.000 You guys can hear the entire conversation on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page.

00:28:24.000 So make sure you do that.

00:28:25.000 Also, we're going to air it on Real America's Voice.

00:28:28.000 Okay, I got to get to this clip.

00:28:29.000 This is worth a whole hour of radio.

00:28:32.000 Biden put up a judicial nominee by the name of Charnel Bajelkrenigen.

00:28:40.000 Did I say that right?

00:28:41.000 Charnel Bajelkendren.

00:28:44.000 Okay, and I'm guessing that is Finnish or Norwegian.

00:28:47.000 It seems Scandinavian.

00:28:49.000 Anyway, so she was asked the direct question.

00:28:51.000 It's unbelievable by Senator Kennedy. 0.67

00:28:54.000 She wants to be a federal judge.

00:28:56.000 She allegedly went to college and got a degree.

00:28:59.000 This woman was born in Great Lakes, Illinois, graduated cumulad from Mankato State University at Minnesota State University.

00:29:07.000 In 2000, she earned her JD from Gonzaga University School of Law.

00:29:11.000 This is a person who has a college degree and is currently a judge.

00:29:19.000 Listen to this.

00:29:20.000 This is currently a judge who wants to be a federal judge.

00:29:22.000 Play cut 101.

00:29:24.000 Judge on the far end.

00:29:28.000 Tell me what Article 5 of the Constitution does.

00:29:32.000 Article 5 is not coming to mind at the moment.

00:29:36.000 Okay.

00:29:36.000 How about Article 2?

00:29:38.000 Neither is Article 2.

00:29:40.000 Do you know what purposivism is?

00:29:44.000 In my 12 years as an assistant attorney general and my nine years serving as a judge, I was not faced with that precise question.

00:29:56.000 I just can't even.

00:29:58.000 What is Article 2 of the Constitution?

00:30:00.000 You want to be a federal judge.

00:30:03.000 You went to Gonzaga School of Law and you can't tell me.

00:30:06.000 I could tell you what Article 2 is.

00:30:07.000 Article 2, it involves the executive branch, the requirements who is president, how you elect them, how they're put into office.

00:30:13.000 Article 1 deals with Congress.

00:30:14.000 Article 3 with the Supreme Court of the United States.

00:30:16.000 Article 5, how you alter the Constitution.

00:30:17.000 This is not hard.

00:30:18.000 There are seven articles to the U.S. Constitution.

00:30:20.000 I know that, and I didn't go to college.

00:30:22.000 I'm a high school graduate.

00:30:23.000 This is not hard.

00:30:25.000 And you are a judge who wants to be a federal judge at a Senate confirmation hearing.

00:30:29.000 It takes a lot to surprise me.

00:30:31.000 A lot.

00:30:32.000 My tolerance for surprise is very high.

00:30:34.000 This shocks me.

00:30:36.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:30:37.000 Email me your thoughts as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:30:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:30:44.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 27, 2023

The Biggest Project Veritas Story Ever with Sen. J.D. Vance and James O'Keefe

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