My full annotated commentary on Bill Maher's appearance on Club Random, where we discuss the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and why we should all be born in the wrong body. I also discuss the environment Bill was in when we had the conversation, and how I handled the situation.
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00:02:02.000So, just so you know, I don't like cigarettes, I don't like cigar smoke, and I certainly don't like marijuana smoke, but throughout the entire conversation, Bill Maher was smoking weed.
00:02:12.000Didn't necessarily make it easier for me to be able to have this conversation, but I decided to just kind of roll with the punches, and whether or not I got second-hand high, that still is up for debate.
00:02:26.000Sometimes if you're a football player, you've got to play in the snow.
00:02:29.000Sometimes if you're a baseball player, you have to play in the wind and the rain.
00:02:32.000Sometimes if you're a political commentator fighting for Jesus and fighting for liberty and fighting for America, you've got to play in the weed.
00:02:40.000And so we talk about a lot of different stuff throughout this conversation.
00:02:44.000I'm going to break this up and tell you at certain moments I feel as if I should have injected myself more, some points that I wish I would have made.
00:02:53.000And honestly, some points that I think I did pretty well at.
00:02:56.000And so throughout this conversation with Bill Maher, I'm going to kind of interject and show you that, ooh, I wish I would have made this point about the resurrection.
00:03:04.000Or I wish I would have said this about President Trump.
00:03:06.000Or I wish I would have said this about Jesus Christ.
00:03:09.000Or I wish I would have said X, Y, Z. And you'll see that.
00:07:25.000You got off the F train, you fell asleep, and you got off at 20 stops too far, and don't blame me for that.
00:07:32.000Okay, and so then we dive into, of course, the topic of weed and alcohol.
00:07:36.000And I want to reiterate, I was a guest on his show.
00:07:39.000I did not want to come across as overly aggressive.
00:07:41.000I honestly wanted to get to know Bill Maher.
00:07:44.000Thought he's done a great job speaking out against the woke.
00:07:46.000He's a rare free speech liberal, despite our firm disagreements on many things, political and spiritual.
00:07:54.000And so here we have a discussion about marijuana and alcohol.
00:07:57.000And the point I so badly wanted to make, but I decided not to, because in the spirit of being polite, is that his perspective is like, hey, why can't I do weed if it doesn't impact somebody else?
00:08:10.000The irony is that it kind of was impacting me, because I had to smell him doing weed there.
00:08:15.000But I decided not to make that point in the pursuit of being polite and trying to be magnanimous.
00:08:23.000Look, there's so much about marijuana that does not get discussed.
00:08:26.000It could be really, really bad for your brain.
00:08:28.000It could be increased depression, increased anxiety, a lot of problems with it.
00:08:33.000But hey, if that's what you want to do, then that's what you want to do.
00:08:36.000I will say, though, it kind of invalidates one's argument if you say it's not impacting somebody else while you're smoking weed, basically, right next to somebody.
00:08:55.000But can I just ask, because I want to find out a lot about you, because you're obviously a super bright guy, but you do think that I have the right to live completely opposite than you do.
00:09:06.000I think you can get as drunk as you'd like.
00:09:09.000And you're that kind of an American, right?
00:12:21.000No, but I mean, yeah, I don't have that issue anymore, thankfully.
00:12:26.000I would ask the question, though, like, do you think since the legalization of marijuana in L.A., it's made it a better or worse place to live?
00:14:35.000Oh, I hear those things too, and I'm sure that's true because once it became as commercialized as it has, of course you're going to try to maximize the potency of it just because the customer comes back, just like a restaurant, is not interested in your health.
00:14:50.000They're interested in making the food as delicious as they can so you've come back to that restaurant.
00:14:56.000But it's so hard for me to tell you because I've been smoking for 50 years, and I'm different.
00:15:41.000And, you know, I understand that it doesn't connect with some people or make some people paranoid or something, but other people, it's just, I mean...
00:15:51.000You know, some people like a scotch, and some people like blah, blah, blah, and some people like complete sobriety.
00:18:33.000Left, woke, I won't even say left, woke philosophy is they believe, they don't really believe in private property, and at its core, why shouldn't someone be able to defecate on the side of the street?
00:19:30.000Also, when you get to, we're going to send homegrown American citizens to foreign prisons?
00:19:36.000Okay, then we switched our conversation to the Maryland dad.
00:19:40.000Now, mind you, since I sat down with Bill Maher, a lot has happened regarding Mr. Garcia.
00:19:47.000We have learned that he has MS-13 tattoos on his knuckles.
00:19:51.000We have learned that he was not too kind to his wife.
00:19:53.000I believe I mentioned it in this conversation, but it has been even more emphasized in court documents.
00:19:59.000And so I decided to kind of hear Bill out here, but just to be clear, no U.S. citizen is being disappeared.
00:20:06.000This was a return of an illegal occupier and invader back to his country of origin, back to where he came from.
00:20:14.000And again, we have learned a lot since this episode was recorded, so I just want to emphasize that this individual, Garcia, Mr. Garcia, is back in the country where he was born and where he is actually a citizen.
00:20:26.000We did not take an El Salvadorian and send him to Brazil.
00:20:29.000We did not take an El Salvadorian and send him to the Congo.
00:20:38.000In fact, he looked rather healthy to me when the senator sat down with him.
00:20:42.000So I think Bill was a little bit off here, but in the spirit of allowing the conversation to pick up some momentum, I didn't want to be too disagreeable.
00:22:04.000Because if we don't have the honesty, we can't really...
00:22:06.000Look, but also to be fair to the whole topic in general, the outrage around deportations, as we've seen these last couple of weeks, is like the American people voted for it.
00:23:07.000I mean, but I hope that if it comes to light, let me button it up this way.
00:23:14.000I hope that if it does come to light, that there really is no evidence that this guy was a gang member, that he got swept up, which is very understandable that when you do a sweep, when you're doing big things, yes, nothing is going to go perfect.
00:23:27.000But if it does come to light, I would hope that some Republicans have the spine.
00:25:05.000But just because things are old doesn't mean, and I'm not saying you're using that talking point, but some people are trying to invalidate it just because it's old.
00:25:43.000Look, I've said that all this stuff I don't like about Trump, I did it in my piece the other week when I was talking about the meeting at the White House.
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00:27:41.000He has the power given to him by that law.
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00:28:47.000So, you're 31. What's your background?
00:28:53.000I'm going to have to like Larry King this.
00:28:56.000You know, Larry King used to just famously, and I love Larry, I did a show a billion times.
00:30:24.000No, I mean that because you looked at it as this has catechism, it has religious-type undercurrents, it has almost a metaphysical presence to itself, and so you're an equal opportunity critic.
00:30:39.000And it's funny because the director of Religious Larry Charles and I had dinner about a year ago and I suggested, and of course it went nowhere because we're both too old to really act on it, but I said...
00:30:49.000People keep asking me, and I'm sure him also, to do Religious 2. But when they say it, they think, oh, now we're going to go to India and make fun of the Hindus.
00:31:31.000Your boys, some of the people I think you're fond of, they mix religion and politics in a way that I think is not according to the Constitution.
00:31:44.000But I have to tell you, I'll give you a lot of credit.
00:31:47.000I saw a video of yours where you were talking about how Christy the original documents were, which is, you know, I mean, my view is that the founding fathers,
00:32:17.000And I trust you, you know, I'm going by what you, but, you know, that they were a little Christier than I thought, you know, and I'm always happy to learn new information.
00:32:26.000And if it doesn't satisfy people that I don't stay exactly where I am, it satisfies the people who are actually my fans, who always want me to do that, to be like, oh, if I take in new information, I mean, that's why, you know, the far left hates me because I went to the White House and said,
00:32:45.000Yeah, and I didn't give an inch on anything I believe.
00:32:48.000I confronted him on things that I think, you know, he maybe never hears from anybody else, but that's not good enough for them because, you know, they had to...
00:32:57.000But no, if you take in new information, just tell me.
00:32:59.000And so I do think, after listening to your spiel, that, yes, they were a little more...
00:34:40.000That is a very important conversation of whether or not religion improves society, or if not, it is a good beginning step to argue about the necessity of believing in God.
00:34:52.000Because he keeps on using those words.
00:34:58.000I got into that a little bit where I said, well, what book or what standard should we live by?
00:35:03.000And he kind of says, I don't know, whatever you want.
00:35:05.000As you can see in the West today, that kind of belief system leads to widespread self-harm, to widespread misery, to widespread depression.
00:35:15.000One that I really wish I would have mentioned is the decline in fertility rates and how the West believing in nothing means that the West will believe in anything, which, of course, is a confirmation of a G.K. Chesterton quote.
00:35:28.000We then kind of get into this idea of, well, if God, why is there evil?
00:35:32.000Atheists such as Bill Maher have no way of justifying what is evil because they have no objective standard outside of themselves that all people are obligated to obey.
00:35:44.000Christians, we Christians, explain evil and terrible actions by pointing out that God has given us free will because we need free will to love.
00:37:08.000If you believe in things that are good or evil objectively, if you believe the Holocaust was objectively wrong, you are appealing to a belief in God.
00:37:16.000So contrary to popular opinion, evil does not disprove God.
00:37:20.000It may show that there is a devil out there, but it can't disprove God.
00:37:24.000It instead shows that God indeed does exist.
00:37:27.000What do you think would create a better society or better action?
00:37:32.000People that think that there isn't afterlife based on how you act or people that think
00:37:36.000That's a great question because it certainly can turn people either way.
00:37:40.000It can make you fly planes into a building.
00:37:42.000I'm not speaking of any specific example.
00:38:19.000Mark Wahlberg, I think, really benefits from Catholicism.
00:38:23.000But I think there's lots of people like that.
00:38:26.000They truly are worried that if they do something out of line, illegal or immoral, that the devil will, in short order after they die, be poking them in the ass with a pitchfork, and so they don't do that.
00:41:49.000You say, no, somebody told a story a long time ago, and we're going to stick with that.
00:41:57.000As my friend Frank Turek would say, it's impossible to know because of the ripple effect, which is this.
00:42:03.000We believe in Romans 8, 28. God will work all things for good for those who love him.
00:42:08.000But this is the idea, that in this world...
00:42:11.000That every event in this world ripples forward to trillions of other events.
00:42:16.000Unless you are the all-knowing being and have eternal perspective, how do you know that these tragedies that are objectively evil will not work together for good in the end?
00:42:26.000Perhaps there are many good things that will come out of tragedies in individual lives that we'll never hear about.
00:42:31.000In fact, good results may even come from generations from now, unbeknownst to those who will never experience them.
00:42:38.000Maybe a baby getting cancer today, which is awful and just unspeakable, sends forth a trillion ripples that is partially responsible for bringing forth a great evangelist 500 years from now who saves millions of people.
00:42:52.000Only God can track all those ripples and only God can weave all those things for good.
00:42:58.000That to me, I'm not trying to be insulting.
00:43:10.000So this portion, it gets very technical.
00:43:12.000And this is all about the dates of the Gospels.
00:43:14.000Again, I've got to give credit to my friend Frank Turek.
00:43:17.000In his book, I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist, which I'm going to send a signed copy to Bill Maher, which I think would be great.
00:43:23.000All the Gospels, we know, were written prior to 70 A.D. They don't mention the Jewish War or the destruction of the city of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 A.D. This would be like writing a history of the Twin Towers and not mentioning they were destroyed on 9-11.
00:43:40.000And the Gospel writers write as if the temple and areas of Jerusalem are still standing while they are writing.
00:43:46.000For example, in John 5-2, it says that there is a pool called Bethesda, which wouldn't have been the case after 70 AD.
00:43:54.000Dr. Jonathan Bernier authored the most recent complete book on New Testament dating.
00:43:59.000He concludes that every gospel is prior to 70 AD, with Mark being the earliest at 42 to 45 AD, and every other New Testament book as also prior to 70 AD, with only a few shorter books having an estimated range that passed beyond 70 AD.
00:44:16.000Matthew, who wrote the gospel, was an apostle he wrote prior to 70 AD, and I thought that was the case when I was sitting down with Bill.
00:44:22.000But actually, I was like, oh, I think he was an apostle.
00:44:26.000And I didn't say anything, but it turns out he was an apostle.
00:44:38.000The Gospels recorded what Jesus said, so it wasn't necessary.
00:44:42.000In fact, the restraint of all the epistle writers in not making up quotes from Jesus, which would have been tempting to do in order to resolve disputes among circumcision, which Bill makes fun of, tongues or women in the church, shows that they were being true to Jesus.
00:44:59.000They weren't inventing things, he said, although it would have been convenient to do so.
00:45:05.000This is the critical point, everybody.
00:45:07.000The dating of all the documents are not as important as the dating of the sources.
00:45:13.000For example, if you write a book about the events of 9-11, right now, 23 years later, the fact that you are interviewing eyewitnesses from that time is more important than when you're writing it down.
00:45:27.000The same is true of New Testament events.
00:45:30.000The sources are much earlier than when they were written down.
00:45:33.000And so here's an excerpt from Frank Turek's book, I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist.
00:45:37.000Some New Testament books were penned in the 40s and 50s AD, with sources from the 30s, very near the death of Jesus.
00:45:45.000As certain as we are about the date of Luke's records, there is no doubt from anyone, including the most liberal of scholars, that Paul wrote his first letter to the Church of Corinth, which is in modern-day Greece, sometime between 55 and 56. In this letter,
00:46:02.000Paul speaks about moral problems in the church and then proceeds to discuss controversies over tongues, prophecies, and the Lord's Supper.
00:46:09.000This demonstrates that the church in Corinth, with experiencing some kind of miraculous activity, was already observing the Lord's Supper within 25 years of the resurrection.
00:46:19.000But the most significant aspect of this letter is that it contains the earliest and most authenticated testimony of the resurrection itself.
00:46:28.000The sources themselves, not just what is being written down.
00:46:31.000In the 15th chapter of 1 Corinthians, Paul writes down the testimony he received from others and the testimony that was authenticated when Christ appeared to him.
00:46:41.000Quote, For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day according to the scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter,
00:47:19.000So where did Paul get what he received?
00:47:22.000He probably received it from Peter and James when he visited them in Jerusalem three years later after his conversion, as we know in Galatians 1-18.
00:47:32.000Because as the legendary Dr. Gary Habernas points out, even liberal scholars believe that this testimony was part of an early creed that is within one to three years after the resurrection.
00:47:44.000This is another really important point that...
00:47:47.000This creed is so widely accepted as being so early that New Testament scholar Richard Baucom writes, quote, all scholars recognize here an early tradition that was formulated even before Paul's own call to be an apostle.
00:48:02.000Gary Habernas cites about 40 additional creeds in the New Testament, which are short, repeatable summaries of historical events or theological doctrines that even illiterate people could remember easily.
00:48:31.000verse 4. Since these creeds predate the writings, when you're reading the New Testament documents, you're reading testimony far closer to the events than the dates of the documents themselves.
00:48:50.000The creed from, for example, 1 Corinthians 15 goes right back to the time and place of the resurrection.
00:48:56.000Therefore, it's unlikely to be describing a legend.
00:48:59.000If there ever was a place that legendary resurrection could not occur, it was Jerusalem.
00:49:04.000Because the Jews and the Romans were all too eager to squash Christianity and could have easily done so by parading Jesus' body around the city.
00:49:44.000An appearance to more than 500 others at one time.
00:49:47.000Included in those groups was one skeptic, James, and one outright enemy, Paul himself.
00:49:52.000By naming so many people who could verify what Paul was saying, Paul was in effect challenging his Corinthian readers to check him out.
00:50:00.000Bible scholar William Lilly puts it this way, quote, what gives a special authority to the list as historical evidence is the reference to most of 500 brethren still being alive.
00:50:12.000St. Paul says, in effect, quote, if you do not believe me, you can ask them, end quote.
00:50:16.000Such statement in an admittedly genuine letter written within 30 years of the event is almost as strong evidence as one could hope to get for something that happened nearly 2,000 years ago.
00:50:29.000Let's listen to more of my conversation with Bill Maher.
00:50:32.000And so, is there any part of the Bible you think is true?
00:52:45.000So, well, there is a lot of contradictory stuff, for example, in the Gospel of Thomas, why it wasn't included that Jesus is in the water, Jesus is in the leaves.
00:52:54.000But there's other extra-biblical accounts, though, that show that Jesus was a real figure outside of the Bible.
00:57:50.000This was Indian, and that's a very common part of it, is died and came back to life.
00:57:57.000It's obviously something primitive men would have thought about all over the world.
00:58:01.000The fact that they put this into this new religion, which is something that the people of the time would have been familiar with, these concepts.
00:58:09.000Again, that's why they made his birthday December 25th, because that was already a huge pagan holiday.
00:58:20.000But let's just take the resurrection, though.
00:58:22.000Why would the apostles willingly go and spread what then became their death certificate?
00:58:29.000Why would they go and do that if it didn't actually happen?
00:59:19.000This was like 1997, and they believed, there was this bunch of people in San Diego, and they believed that when the Hale-Bopp comet passed at a certain place, that the spaceship was going to pick them up,
01:00:11.000People want to believe, and it's a very enticing thought, that this life, which possibly isn't that great, if I just give up this one, which is not that much, I can get this awesome one.
01:00:29.000To believe what's not true, to believe what you want to believe, is infinite.
01:00:34.000I mean, you are literally the person I'm talking about at the very beginning of the movie Religious, because the very first scene, I'm sitting in the car and I'm saying, the movie is not a spiritual quest.
01:00:47.000I mean, that's what we told them, so they'd sign the release.
01:00:50.000The movie is me saying, I don't know how it could be.
01:00:54.000That so many intelligent people can wall off a part of their mind and believe in something that part of their mind must know is not true.
01:01:03.000That's the question I'm going for in religion.
01:01:06.000And like, you're obviously a super smart guy.
01:01:29.000All of that takes faith, I acknowledge, but that all of the fine-tuning of our universe, if any of those fine-tunings were off, a famous scientist said to believe that the universe and the Earth in its current composition was an act of randomness.
01:01:48.000Would believe that a hurricane would go through a junkyard and assemble a 737 flight-ready Boeing.
01:02:07.000You're saying because I don't know the answer, I'm going to assume the answer must be that a divine intervention did it.
01:02:16.000That's not really a scientific way of looking at it.
01:02:19.000So the teleological view, not the cosmological view, is that all of these fine tunings, when layered up one after the other, it defies, I think, reason to think that this is just a roll of the dice.
01:02:33.000That when you see a baby come into the world, when you see how we naturally heal, even consciousness itself, I think, is a pretty miraculous thing.
01:04:22.000As Richard Dawkins always says, there's theism, which is belief in gods, and they used to believe in many, and then it got to one, and we just believe in one less.
01:06:10.000No, honoring your parents is not jealous God stuff.
01:06:12.000God's like a pimp who was in the next room, and he said, who you on the phone with there, girl?
01:06:18.000You know, I mean, I guess I'm testing them.
01:06:22.000Hold on, but no, again, I'm not offendable on this, but I think you could have, I know you made fun of it in Religious, but there's something beautiful about not working for a day.
01:11:22.000And let me pause, because the Bible was the document, as you acknowledged, that our founders read and believed that built this beautiful society that you and I both love.
01:11:34.000And I think it's treading on dangerous if we want to, A, cut our roots without an alternative, because if we cut our roots, then we get all this other counterfeit stuff of wokeism and all this postmodernist garbage.
01:11:47.000So our contention is, let's go back to where we came from.
01:14:27.000I had the opposite reaction to catechism, which was religious training we would go to on Sunday morning, where you would learn how to be a good Catholic.
01:15:25.000You know, maybe on my deathbed, the Catholics will come back, because I've heard people say, like, once they drill that into your mind, I mean, to this day, if I walk into a church, and I have no reason to, but we did for religious,
01:19:08.000Which is a big claim, albeit, and a very compelling one, which we also believe one to be true, because it redeems all of humanity, of our shortfalling of the glory of God.
01:19:17.000I got to say, it's really picking up the check for the whole table, you know.
01:19:22.000I mean, you gotta give it to your boy for, like, all of our sins.
01:25:35.000I get it, that it was different than most of the people in the tribe, that, you know, these two guys are going off and doing it.
01:25:42.000But that we can, as sentient beings now, logical, intellectual beings, recognize that this was from a long time ago, and now it's just something that happens in nature, that some people want to feel this way, and some people want to feel this way.
01:25:58.000And there's no moral dimension to it and no reason to call it a sin.
01:26:04.000Again, Christianity just disagrees with that.
01:26:06.000So, I mean, it's the only sin that God destroyed a city over.
01:26:09.000So, I mean, and I'm not trying to be legalistic about it.
01:30:43.000No? I think people might think they are born in a different body.
01:30:46.000But I believe it to be a mental disorder.
01:30:49.000As most of clinicians did up until the last five or ten years.
01:30:53.000Well, you know, this is another one where the woke hates me.
01:30:55.000I mean, I did a whole thing on how I think, and we do disagree on this, by the way, because I do think there is such a thing as being born in the wrong body.
01:31:03.000But I said what's going on in the country is what I would call entrapment, because entrapment, by legal means, is when you suggest to people something they really wouldn't have done anyway.
01:31:14.000And I use the example of the Liberty 7, the 7...
01:31:18.000African-American gentlemen in Miami who were planning to blow up the Sears Tower.
01:31:24.000The FBI came in to seven people who probably had good reason to be discontented with America and said, wouldn't it be great if we blew up the Sears Tower in Chicago for Allah?
01:33:11.000I just took it as a positive, and I said this also, I took it as a positive that at least there is this other person that I see that is undeniable.
01:33:22.000And again, for all the people who, we're losing truth.
01:33:26.000Yes, I was one of the first to say that.
01:34:04.000And again, the reason why I was the perfect choice for this was because nobody had been harder on him.
01:34:12.000So it was a real Nixon to China thing.
01:34:15.000And by the way, if you don't know what Nixon to China means, you probably shouldn't be commenting on political matters to begin with, my critical friends.
01:34:27.000What your meeting, I thought, was a great window into the whole liberal world that shows the Donald Trump that I know and that I've gotten to know, which is, and I just thought it was hilarious when he was, you know, asking you about Iran, right?
01:36:25.000I didn't give one inch on what I believe or saying to his face what I believe.
01:36:34.000But, you know, I told the truth about how he's different in private.
01:36:38.000Do you think, why, what do you think about the idea, you going, here's how I would frame it, you going to meet with Trump would be the equivalent of Biden inviting me over for dinner.
01:37:23.000But the idea that I could talk to them as freely as I felt this conversation was going.
01:37:30.000This is emblematic to me of why the Democrats lose the elections, because they just don't feel that this is like a real person.
01:37:38.000And I know it's so weird to say that about Donald Trump, who I've said a jillion times is, you know, a whiny little bitch.
01:37:46.000I mean, I could go through my greatest hits of, like, insults, but this was about getting past that and maybe seeing that if we met in person...
01:37:54.000We don't hate each other as much, and we don't.
01:37:57.000And I'm sorry, I'm not going to pretend that's a bad thing.
01:42:50.000Isaac Newton wrote more about biblical prophecy than even physics.
01:42:54.000And so there's something about the scriptures that are intellectual, that does push your limits.
01:43:00.000And that's what I think is so beautiful about our faith, is it can be accessible to everyone, but also infinitely nourishing in exploration.
01:43:07.000So why the, if there's this other truth that's beyond this metaphysical truth, why so many different versions of it that only seem to cause wars?
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01:46:57.000And then slowly it catches on, the idea that it gets good, and the afterlife was very attractive to an empire that was like a lot of slaves.
01:47:08.000If you're a slave, this is a good deal.
01:47:11.000And so finally in 330, it becomes the official religion.
01:47:15.000And then you have the church fathers, Ambrose.
01:49:52.000He said, and this like stopped me in my tracks for a minute because it's the kind of that makes you go, you know, that makes people go, oh.
01:52:31.000I just didn't think much about it at all.
01:52:35.000I do remember, like, in my 20s, like, you know, you'd do that thing where you're in some sort of bad shape, and you'd be, please, God, if you just...
01:56:03.000It's promising, it's exciting, it's uplifting, and we discuss it.
01:56:06.000And to be honest, when I go to these campuses and we're drawing these huge crowds, in some ways, we're benefiting from the ways that the old school comics would benefit on college campuses because we're saying the stuff you're not allowed to say.
01:56:17.000Like, we are the rebellion-type energy.
01:56:32.000It's like you're a guy on a college campus at any one of these tour stops we're going to, right?
01:56:36.000Boise State, University of South Carolina, Oklahoma State University.
01:56:41.000And they are constantly in this bubble of if I say one wrong word, I could have my entire career ruined.
01:56:46.000If I say the wrong joke, if I laugh at the wrong thing, if I use the wrong pronoun, they're living in a totalitarian environment, a cultural totalitarian environment.
01:56:54.000Okay, you're going to have to stay a little more because I want to ask you about this.
01:56:57.000Because now you've got me on colleges.
01:56:59.000And, you know, that's been one of my big...
02:02:33.000If you're walking down an alley at night Have a hypothetical.
02:02:38.000Would you rather have five guys come towards you that just got out of the bar, gambling and drinking all night, or five guys coming towards you that just got out of a Bible study?
02:02:48.000Which five guys would you rather run into?
02:02:51.000Are you cheering for those church rates to go down?
02:02:54.000Yes. You think it would make the world a better place?
02:05:30.000A lot more that I could say and will say about the proofs of God from the fine-tuning, from space, time, and matter put into existence by a spaceless, timeless, and all-knowing being, which of course is a proof of God, or that time had a start, or the ontological perspective of God,