The Charlie Kirk Show - The Bill May Be Big and Beautiful, But Is It Passable?

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:00.000 Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio.

00:00:04.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, the right-wing revolution continues, as we predicted last summer.

00:00:09.000 We talk about triple-trending counties, and then also Senator Mike Lee talks about the big, beautiful bill and why he is a no.

00:00:16.000 And then finally, my grudge against Jake Tapper continues.

00:00:20.000 That's right.

00:00:21.000 I'm not getting over it.

00:00:22.000 We go back in the Wayback Machine that not even a year ago, Jake Tapper smeared me.

00:00:27.000 We talk about that and more.

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00:00:42.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:40.000 Here in the imperial capital of Washington, D.C. Now, I asked my team when we were landing in D.C., which one do I disdain more, Washington, D.C. or London?

00:01:52.000 And London won, just for the record.

00:01:54.000 So I'm actually happier to be in Washington, D.C. than in London, because at least in this town, we have President Donald Trump in office.

00:02:04.000 We have Kash Patel.

00:02:06.000 We have Dan Bongino.

00:02:08.000 We have Pam Bondi. 0.93

00:02:10.000 We have Bobby Kennedy.

00:02:12.000 But boy, this place is not my favorite.

00:02:15.000 I will say this, though.

00:02:17.000 I will definitely take Spanish over the Arabic outside stores.

00:02:22.000 I will say that.

00:02:23.000 I would much rather have a nice little bodega of some guy from Nicaragua that at least believes in Jesus and doesn't want to conquer the entire Western world than what I saw. 0.78

00:02:38.000 Take it.

00:02:39.000 It's not ideal, but I'll definitely take it.

00:02:41.000 The city definitely does feel different than from Biden's term.

00:02:45.000 The city finally has life.

00:02:46.000 A lot of people are back in town and things are happening and there's a hustle and there's a bustle.

00:02:51.000 The biggest change, honestly, is not even that political.

00:02:55.000 It's that under Biden, the city couldn't shake that ridiculous, like, long COVID, depressing, wearing masks all the time thing.

00:03:06.000 I mean, I remember visiting D.C. like late summer 2023.

00:03:11.000 It was the only visit that I had while Biden was president of D.C. I literally avoided D.C. for four years for except for one day.

00:03:19.000 And everyone was still wearing masks and everyone was still walking around with masks.

00:03:23.000 I said, what is going on here?

00:03:26.000 So there's definitely a more hopeful vibe in D.C., but I could tell you we're going to get into some very promising news here from The New York Times.

00:03:35.000 It is so hard to realign a government back to constitutional purposes.

00:03:41.000 This place wears you down.

00:03:44.000 This place grinds you down to a halt.

00:03:49.000 The permanent machine bureaucracy exists to extinguish the will of a well-meaning Mr. Smith goes to Washington.

00:04:02.000 The bureaucracy intentionally Plays things slow.

00:04:06.000 It intentionally will obfuscate.

00:04:09.000 It will delay.

00:04:11.000 It will shrug its shoulders.

00:04:13.000 It will say it has to go to a certain committee.

00:04:16.000 It is a war of attrition.

00:04:18.000 You see, the permanent deep state bureaucracy, they say, oh, really, you guys want to doge us?

00:04:24.000 You want to cut our spending?

00:04:26.000 We will outlast you.

00:04:28.000 We're going to be here despite when there's elections.

00:04:31.000 And that actually was...

00:04:49.000 And that is one of the questions that is in front of us.

00:04:53.000 And this is exactly why I want to get into this idea of triple trending counties.

00:04:58.000 It's a theme that we talk about a lot here on this program.

00:05:01.000 Because what we're seeing unfold in Washington, D.C., and I was meeting with some White House staff last night, and they are working so hard, and they deserve such credit.

00:05:09.000 Because the energy alone, just to get basic stuff done, it will take your entire afternoon to just get a very simple thing done, where in the private sector at Turning Point USA, I say it, and it gets done.

00:05:23.000 I want to have an event on this day.

00:05:26.000 Yes, Charlie, we'll do that.

00:05:27.000 Thank you.

00:05:28.000 We want to have this speaker.

00:05:30.000 Yes, we will do that.

00:05:31.000 Thank you.

00:05:32.000 Where in this White House, because of the deep state government, it's like, I want to go to Saudi Arabia.

00:05:38.000 Well, you might have to do this, this, this.

00:05:39.000 And only because of President Trump's brute force is he able to be this productive.

00:05:45.000 Remember, it was Joe Biden staffers that came out, and they said, I wish we worked for a White House when Joe Biden was president that was as agile, that was as problem-solving, as entrepreneurial as President Trump.

00:06:01.000 Will elections continue to matter?

00:06:05.000 Or will elections be ceremonial, no different than putting in the King of England as someone who's there to greet Super Bowl champions, cut ribbons, fly around the country, and be nothing more than a glorified spokesperson for the country?

00:06:20.000 Are we looking at a similar presidency that is a presidency in name only, no different than the monarchy in the United Kingdom?

00:06:30.000 The New York Times did an amazing story this last weekend, and I've got to be honest.

00:06:34.000 Every so often, the New York Times just crushes it with their data analysis.

00:06:37.000 You've got to call strikes.

00:06:40.000 The New York Times, which, by the way, is like the least radical of all the rags.

00:06:44.000 The Washington Post is gone.

00:06:45.000 I mean, there's so many of these that are just gone.

00:06:47.000 The New York Times every so often has a little glimmer of hope that they still are holding on to wanting to be a respectable newspaper.

00:06:54.000 And Andrew will tell you, we deal with reporters in every single major outlet.

00:06:59.000 At least the New York Times will allow us to talk to them.

00:07:01.000 Some of these major outlets, they won't even take your phone call.

00:07:05.000 Anyway, so what the New York Times did is they did a story of how all the counties, basically, how many counties have been moving right in America in the last three presidential elections.

00:07:15.000 And that was so interesting about what the New York Times did.

00:07:18.000 The New York Times did is they analyzed the 2016, the 2020, and the 2024 electoral map.

00:07:23.000 Because that is now three election cycles over the course of a decade of whether or not this is a permanent right-wing shift in our country.

00:07:32.000 And the visuals are very powerful.

00:07:34.000 We can put them up on screen.

00:07:36.000 They are dramatic.

00:07:37.000 And they coined a term, and I like it, and I want to emphasize it.

00:07:40.000 Let's get the actual national map up on screen.

00:07:42.000 So what you're seeing here is the percentage with a college degree by county that shifted right.

00:07:46.000 If you're on podcasting or radio, we're going to put this up on screen.

00:07:48.000 But the big one is 220.

00:07:50.000 Let's put 220 up on screen.

00:07:52.000 I want to get this framed in our office, because that just goes to show the behemoth of the work that we accomplished at Turning Point Action alongside, obviously, President Trump and the entire team, and the social media juggernaut.

00:08:05.000 The entire country moved to the right.

00:08:07.000 It's not just one localized area.

00:08:09.000 Now, there were some places in America that moved to the left.

00:08:12.000 The suburbs of Atlanta, big problems, everybody, huge.

00:08:15.000 In fact, the suburbs of Atlanta, The suburbs of Denver, Santa Fe, New Mexico, a couple places in Oklahoma, a couple places in central Indiana.

00:08:35.000 So we have a Georgia problem.

00:08:37.000 We're going to diagnose that.

00:08:38.000 We're going to do an entire show on that in a different time.

00:08:41.000 Dallas a little bit, but nothing too noteworthy.

00:08:44.000 But again, let's go back to the red map.

00:08:47.000 These are the counties that, just to be clear, let's go back.

00:08:51.000 These are the counties that moved right in all three elections that Trump ran in.

00:08:55.000 Almost 50 million people live in these counties.

00:08:58.000 So this is not just some sample size.

00:09:00.000 And these are counties that were otherwise blue strongholds.

00:09:03.000 As you can see in Florida, every single county moves dramatically to the right.

00:09:07.000 So basically what the New York Times put together is something called triple trending counties.

00:09:13.000 These are counties that trended to the right in all three elections that were previously controlled by Democrats.

00:09:23.000 The first of which is something, a county called Clinton County, New York.

00:09:27.000 The historical trend was that it was traditionally a Democrat-leaning county.

00:09:31.000 Clinton County, New York is a great example of how the Republican Party has remade the electorate and remade the political map.

00:09:39.000 In recent elections, in 2008, Barack Obama won it.

00:09:42.000 By 22 points.

00:09:44.000 In 2020, Joe Biden won it by 5.2 points, but in 2024, Donald Trump flipped the county, winning by two points.

00:09:52.000 Another good one to look at is Suffolk County, considered a swing county with fluctuating support between both parties.

00:09:59.000 In 2020, Donald Trump won it by 232 votes, but in 2024, Donald Trump secured 54% of the vote, the highest percentage since 1988.

00:10:09.000 That is Suffolk County, New York.

00:10:11.000 And then, of course, there's the wow counties, which we've done a lot of work in Wisconsin, Waukesha, Ozaukee, and Washington.

00:10:18.000 In 2020, Donald Trump received 60% of the vote in these counties, and he did even better in 2024.

00:10:24.000 These are triple-trending counties, which shows that the entire country, absent a couple little pockets, is moving to the right.

00:10:31.000 Why is this?

00:10:33.000 We're going to explore that and explain it.

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00:11:58.000 What we're doing on campus is so critical.

00:12:01.000 We are breaking the cycle.

00:12:03.000 Billions and billions of views online.

00:12:05.000 And this map, again, show the national map, demonstrates it.

00:12:10.000 This is over three election cycles.

00:12:12.000 This is not just some sort of isolated incident.

00:12:15.000 The entire Midwest, the entire center part of the country, I will say, I wish California performed better there.

00:12:23.000 I really do.

00:12:24.000 And Arizona is not...

00:12:31.000 But it really goes to show that in the central and eastern time zone, there is a consistency that has moved dramatically in our direction.

00:12:44.000 The map is no accident.

00:12:45.000 But the more interesting part of this is who is moving to the right.

00:12:50.000 These triple trending counties show us that it is the working class. 0.99

00:12:55.000 President Trump has made gains in six times as many counties as Democrats in his three runs for the presidency.

00:13:02.000 And his gains have come predominantly with working-class voters earning less than $100,000 a year.

00:13:11.000 The erosion of working-class support among black, white, and Latino voters alike is the number one political story of this generation.

00:13:18.000 And here's the key.

00:13:19.000 There's a lot more of them than there are elitist academics and overly educated.

00:13:24.000 Beyond their intelligence types.

00:13:26.000 If you work with your hands, if you shower before and after work, you've been on the losing end of globalization, of wokeness and offshore.

00:13:33.000 Democrats are only making gains with one group of people.

00:13:37.000 Highly educated, rich people.

00:13:40.000 Those with luxury beliefs and abstractions.

00:13:42.000 You can see the income graph.

00:13:44.000 It is chilling.

00:13:46.000 Democrats keep on gaining with the group.

00:13:49.000 The wealthier you are, the more likely you are to be in the Democrat Party.

00:13:53.000 If you drive a forklift, you're more likely to be in our category.

00:13:58.000 Now, interestingly, there was a story this morning from Axios that I want to highlight, which is going to be a major story, and it's worth emphasizing.

00:14:09.000 It ties all of this together, which is a top artificial intelligence CEO foresees a white-collar bloodbath. 0.56

00:14:18.000 Now, interestingly, We are not yet going to see the blue-collar bloodbath.

00:14:24.000 Robotics is coming, but it's not yet there.

00:14:28.000 It's still a slow mover.

00:14:30.000 The humanoid robots still struggle to do the very basic human tasks and be able to do them at scale.

00:14:37.000 For decades, and this is the irony, elites were very smug about their own economic security compared to blue-collar people.

00:14:47.000 They used to say, learn to code, you carpenter.

00:14:50.000 Learn to code.

00:14:52.000 It doesn't matter that we shipped your factory job overseas to Wuhan, China.

00:14:56.000 I got this fancy degree.

00:14:59.000 I deserve this.

00:15:02.000 You see, according to this story, it's pretty amazing.

00:15:07.000 Looking around the corner, Anthropic CEO Dario A. Modi Who's building the technology says AI could wipe out half of all of the entry-level white-collar jobs.

00:15:19.000 I wonder who's been predicting this on a college campus, telling all these kids they're being scammed.

00:15:23.000 You notice it gets very quiet when I'm on a college campus and I say this.

00:15:27.000 I say, you guys realize that your entry-level jobs are not going to be here in five years.

00:15:30.000 Deep down, they know.

00:15:32.000 They know they have been totally scammed.

00:15:35.000 AI could wipe out half of all those jobs. 0.98

00:15:38.000 Unemployment could spike to 10% to 20% in the next one to five years.

00:15:43.000 Possible.

00:15:44.000 Possible mass elimination of jobs across technology, finance, law, consulting, and other white-collar professions, especially entry-level gigs.

00:15:52.000 And this is not something that necessarily should be celebrated.

00:15:56.000 But now a lot of degree holders are in grave danger.

00:16:00.000 The same degree holders that are voting for the Democrat Party, thinking the Democrat Party is going to protect them.

00:16:05.000 We figured out how to replace a software engineer.

00:16:08.000 Or a PR rep faster than we figured out how to replace a carpenter. 0.99

00:16:12.000 It's funny how that works, isn't it?

00:16:15.000 Going into 2028, it is conceivable that these little suburban enclaves of mid-level managers that are completely useless and irrelevant very well might be replaced.

00:16:28.000 I don't yet think the C-suite is going to be replaced for any time soon.

00:16:32.000 You still need human beings making decisions.

00:16:35.000 But what you are going to see is one of the most dramatic job displacements, and it's going to be a top issue in the 28-28 campaign.

00:16:42.000 I agree with Steve Bannon.

00:16:43.000 Steve Bannon says, quote, I don't think anyone is taking into consideration how administrative, managerial, and tech jobs for people under 30, entry-level jobs, are so important in your 20s, are going to be eviscerated.

00:16:54.000 This is my message when I go to these campuses.

00:16:56.000 is I said, you guys are getting a woman's studies degree. 0.68

00:17:01.000 You guys are just getting a And what is the Democrat Party doing to actually protect you and defend you?

00:17:09.000 Nothing.

00:17:11.000 So as the Republican Party is becoming a working class party, it's actually a constituency that might still be working.

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00:18:30.000 Joining us right now is Senator Mike Lee.

00:18:33.000 Senator, thank you for taking the time.

00:18:35.000 I want to just get your take on this and we can go from here.

00:18:37.000 Your answer.

00:18:39.000 In the Big Beautiful Bill's current composition, as it is in its current form, would you currently vote for it?

00:18:46.000 At the moment, no.

00:18:47.000 In fact, there's no chance it could pass the Senate right now.

00:18:50.000 But, you know, we do have two legislative chambers.

00:18:53.000 It's passed the House, coming over to the Senate.

00:18:56.000 The Big Beautiful Bill is big.

00:18:59.000 It isn't yet as beautiful as it needs to be, but there's still time to fix it.

00:19:03.000 And the Senate version is going to be more aggressive.

00:19:06.000 It can, and I think it has to be.

00:19:08.000 Or else it's not going to pass.

00:19:10.000 Now look, the Republicans in the House gave us some good wins.

00:19:14.000 This bill extends the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to make sure that we don't end up with a $4 trillion tax bomb going off, exploding in front of the American people.

00:19:23.000 It helps revitalize the military.

00:19:25.000 It funds the completion of the southern border wall.

00:19:28.000 It helps fund the crackdown on illegal immigration.

00:19:30.000 Those are all great things.

00:19:32.000 We've got to deliver more than that though.

00:19:35.000 We've increased spending.

00:19:38.000 But like 58% just over the last five years, just since the pandemic.

00:19:43.000 So we've got to address the spending crisis to a greater degree than this bill does.

00:19:48.000 Under this bill, under the CBO projections, we're still looking at, you know, $2.2 trillion a year on average in deficits over the next 10 years.

00:19:57.000 That's not good enough.

00:19:58.000 We've got to get to a point where we can balance it during this president's time in office.

00:20:04.000 Okay, so let's kind of isolate this for a second here, Senator.

00:20:08.000 Who is within your coalition that is currently opposing it because of your concerns over spending?

00:20:16.000 What senators are in agreement with you?

00:20:19.000 I'm making a point not to speak for my colleagues, but I will point out that there are at least a few who have said in its current form it can't pass.

00:20:28.000 We can get there, but it can't pass right now because it doesn't do enough to control spending.

00:20:34.000 I know I've made those points.

00:20:38.000 Rick Scott from Florida has made those points.

00:20:40.000 Ron Johnson from Wisconsin has as well.

00:20:43.000 Rand Paul has those and other additional concerns with the bill.

00:20:47.000 And I know there are others who have yet to speak as much about it publicly, but who share them.

00:20:52.000 So what then would be enough for you to come to a place?

00:20:58.000 For a yes vote, where do we need to fix it?

00:21:01.000 And how does that work since the House has already passed the bill?

00:21:05.000 What is the process then to actually get these cuts to be made permanent?

00:21:10.000 All right, let's deal with the latter part of the question first.

00:21:13.000 We've got these two legislative chambers.

00:21:15.000 It's passed the House.

00:21:16.000 It moves over to the Senate now.

00:21:18.000 We bring it up.

00:21:20.000 We will undoubtedly insert a lot of amendments into it in what's called a substitute amendment.

00:21:28.000 There's been a rapid fire process on the Senate floor at the end of the process called Budget Voterama, where any senator can bring up any amendment they want.

00:21:35.000 We vote on them over and over and over again, often in rapid formation.

00:21:42.000 And then whenever we're finished with it, we send it back to the House.

00:21:45.000 And hopefully at that point, they're willing to pass it.

00:21:49.000 There's no way of telling exactly what it will look like.

00:21:51.000 But as far as the first part of your question, what it takes to get me there.

00:21:55.000 We just have to have a reasonable path to get back to pre-pandemic spending levels, somewhere at least in range.

00:22:02.000 For fiscal year 2026, we ought to have a path to get to $6.5 trillion a year in total federal spending.

00:22:12.000 Now, if we can get there and then hold that for a couple or three years, we'll be getting to the place where we can balance.

00:22:20.000 You can't do all of this through a reconciliation bill because it doesn't deal with every category of spending.

00:22:25.000 But it does deal with a lot, and it deals with a lot of the spending that has resulted from increases just since the COVID pandemic.

00:22:33.000 That's where I'm looking to get.

00:22:35.000 There are a million different formulations of how that can take place, but it's got to be part of a plan.

00:22:41.000 If this fits into a plan that is serious, that can get us to bounce within a few years, I can get there.

00:22:48.000 And I know most or all of my colleagues can as well.

00:22:50.000 So let's kind of...

00:22:56.000 Where would you say on the Medicaid-Medicare, I don't think anyone's going to want to talk about anything with Medicare.

00:23:03.000 On Medicaid, that's kind of the big thing in front of us.

00:23:06.000 What could potentially be done there, and is there enough appetite amongst more moderate of your colleagues, moderate colleagues, to then go along with your demands?

00:23:16.000 How are we going to bring the coalition together to make sure this bill actually passes?

00:23:21.000 Well, I think we can get there on the Medicaid front.

00:23:24.000 I've proposed legislation called the America First Act, some of which was incorporated into the House version.

00:23:29.000 But they left a lot of our illegal alien population eligible to participate in Medicaid for reasons I don't understand, but there's still that.

00:23:41.000 We could achieve additional savings there.

00:23:43.000 When we look at things like the so-called state Medicaid provider loophole.

00:23:50.000 You've got states that are manipulating provisions of the Affordable Care Act, you know, Obamacare, in order to skim federal funds off the top of Medicaid, all in the name of a Medicaid provider tax.

00:24:03.000 Congress needs to close that loophole because that's encouraging states to take more and more federal money, federal money that through the expanded Medicaid program is paid for 9 to 1 by the U.S. government.

00:24:16.000 We also need to look at the SALT deduction.

00:24:19.000 The income tax deduction that's just a huge taxpayer subsidy from all other Americans over to blue state billionaires designed to bail out blue state governors.

00:24:33.000 This is a problem.

00:24:36.000 I mean, so rather than subsidizing $350 billion for states with high tax rates, we ought to pass a big, beautiful bill that fully terminates.

00:24:46.000 The Green News scam gets rid of every one of these Green News scam subsidies, where we're subsidizing non-baseload sources of power that are unreliable.

00:25:01.000 Let's talk about the doge cuts being certified.

00:25:04.000 There is some news being codified.

00:25:07.000 Elon Musk is coming out saying that he wants to see the doge cuts codified.

00:25:13.000 Is there appetite for that, and what would that look like in practice?

00:25:17.000 Okay, first of all, a lot of the doge cuts, not all of them certainly, but a lot of them occur on what we call the discretionary side of spending.

00:25:27.000 And discretionary spending isn't addressed to a reconciliation bill.

00:25:31.000 So most of those would need to occur outside the reconciliation bill, but some of them could be passed into law with only 51 votes in the Senate.

00:25:41.000 Especially through what's known as a rescissions package.

00:25:45.000 Under the Budget Act, the White House, the President, is allowed to propose to Congress that they rescind certain discretionary funds.

00:25:56.000 And a lot of that is where the doge cuts would come through.

00:25:58.000 They can send that over.

00:25:59.000 Once the White House has sent it over, they can be considered for an expedited up or down vote in both houses, including a simple majority vote in the Senate.

00:26:09.000 So, not everything through doge.

00:26:11.000 Could be done through reconciliation, but I think when most people talk about the doge cuts, most Americans probably are not contemplating that distinction between discretionary and non-discretionary, but they do want to see aggressive action.

00:26:24.000 That's what they're calling for here.

00:26:26.000 So, in closing here, Senator, what would you say is your optimistic take on a timeline to bring all the parties together so that we can have, in your take, even more spending cuts on this bill?

00:26:41.000 I suspect it'll take place over the next four weeks.

00:26:45.000 During the month of June, you're going to see aggressive action within the Senate.

00:26:48.000 I think you'll see a finished product coming out of the Senate, most likely by the end of June.

00:26:54.000 And then what happens from there will be up to the House of Representatives.

00:26:59.000 But I think it'll be that much closer to passing into law.

00:27:02.000 And I look forward to being part of that effort and look forward to getting this thing passed.

00:27:07.000 Not one person wants to see these Tax Cuts and Jobs Act provisions last, resulting in this $4 trillion tax bomb exploding.

00:27:18.000 And I intend to be part of the solution and get this thing done.

00:27:23.000 So, and finally, Senator, let's just talk about for a minute here, what are some of the positives of the bill that you want to make sure the audience is aware of that is not getting enough attention?

00:27:32.000 Border security, no tax on tips, please, Senator.

00:27:36.000 So, border security is a big deal.

00:27:36.000 Yeah.

00:27:40.000 We've got to make sure that we have the tools to deal with that.

00:27:43.000 We've had more illegal immigration than we've ever seen over the last four years.

00:27:49.000 It's just an absolute uncontrolled chaos, which was sadly part of a design of the president's auto pen administration.

00:27:57.000 We have also got the, We've got no tax on tips.

00:28:10.000 That's a very good, very popular provision.

00:28:13.000 And we do bring about a lot of the reforms that I mentioned through provisions of my America First Act that were adopted by the House that get rid of a lot of the federal benefits from going to illegal aliens.

00:28:29.000 And so those are all good things.

00:28:31.000 We're going to build on those.

00:28:32.000 We're going to make things better in the Senate, and we'll get this thing passed.

00:28:35.000 Very good.

00:28:35.000 Senator, keep fighting hard.

00:28:37.000 We'll be watching closely.

00:28:38.000 Thank you so much.

00:28:39.000 Thank you.

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00:29:57.000 So there's a lot of attention right now around Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson's new book.

00:30:03.000 By the way, we should invite Jake Tapper on the show.

00:30:05.000 I should text him.

00:30:10.000 Jake Tapper smeared me as an anti-Semite during the Republican National Convention when I was speaking.

00:30:17.000 That one I'm not going to forget about.

00:30:19.000 Sometimes people say stuff I kind of do.

00:30:21.000 Of all the smears that you can throw at me to call me an anti-Semite during one of the biggest moments of my career, which was a keynote speech at the RNC, I'm sorry.

00:30:34.000 I have words for that.

00:30:37.000 You are far from a journalist, Jake Tapper.

00:30:39.000 I don't care about all these overtures.

00:30:41.000 Let's be honest.

00:30:42.000 If Kamala Harris would have won the presidency, would this book be coming out?

00:30:46.000 It's the only question that matters.

00:30:49.000 The only question that matters is would this book be published if Kamala Harris would have won?

00:30:55.000 So, Jake, you're welcome on our program anytime.

00:30:58.000 And I expect an apology if you were to come on the show.

00:31:03.000 Laura Trump got an apology.

00:31:06.000 It's tough to get right now.

00:31:07.000 For later in the week, can we get Jake Tapper?

00:31:10.000 He was on this ridiculous panel of people on CNN.

00:31:13.000 CNN decided not to take my speech. 0.93

00:31:15.000 They were mocking me while I was giving my speech.

00:31:18.000 Oh, can't the RNC do better than this?

00:31:20.000 And it was all plotted.

00:31:20.000 Charlie Kirk.

00:31:23.000 The New York Times wrote an article hours before the CNN, let's just say, Drive-by.

00:31:36.000 In the great words of Rush Limbaugh, it was a drive-by.

00:31:38.000 The drive-by media.

00:31:40.000 Ambush.

00:31:40.000 So I go on stage.

00:31:42.000 Meanwhile, the New York Times, which Andrew spent a whole day arguing at that report of the New York Times, Jonathan Weissman calls me an anti-Semite, saying Charlie Kirk's, what was the title?

00:31:53.000 Like, disturbing anti-Semitic.

00:31:56.000 Again, of all the criticisms you could throw towards me, I am writing a book.

00:32:03.000 Why you should honor the Shabbat. 0.95

00:32:06.000 My number one criticism when I go from people on the right is that I'm too pro-Israel or whatever.

00:32:14.000 Like, it's just kind of a nauseating thing.

00:32:16.000 Charlie Kirk, long accused of anti-Semitism, is set for a primetime speech.

00:32:22.000 Oh, thanks, Jonathan Weissman.

00:32:25.000 I'm sorry. 0.98

00:32:26.000 One of the reasons why people are falling out of favor of the pro-Israel Like, movement is because of crap like this. 0.93

00:32:34.000 I'll be very honest. 0.97

00:32:35.000 It's, like, beyond demoralizing.

00:32:37.000 It's like, okay, so I defend Israel on campus every single day, that the New York Times call me an anti-Semite, and then you have Jake Tapper peddle that garbage on CNN during a primetime audience for nine minutes straight while I am giving my, one of the biggest speeches in my career.

00:32:54.000 Charlie Kirk, long accused of anti-Semitism, is set for a primetime speech.

00:32:58.000 Long accused.

00:33:00.000 And then Jake Tapper peddled it.

00:33:02.000 And people don't understand, though.

00:33:04.000 They rattle off these 500-word pieces, like 10 a day during the RNC, and they do it to undermine the speakers so that the low-IQ, clamoring host have something to talk about.

00:33:15.000 Here we go.

00:33:16.000 This is 291.

00:33:17.000 Well done, Ryan.

00:33:18.000 This is Jake Tapper calling me an anti-Semite during the RNC speech.

00:33:22.000 I'll never forget this.

00:33:23.000 Play cut 291.

00:33:24.000 Charlie Kirk is speaking right now.

00:33:27.000 He's the head of a right-wing student group called Turning Points.

00:33:30.000 This is the second speaker this evening who has said things that are blatantly anti-Semitic.

00:33:36.000 It's anti-Semitism, and it's more broadly just he swims in oceans of conspiracy.

00:33:47.000 I'm sorry, Jake.

00:33:48.000 I'm not going to all of a sudden platform your book, which you would not have published if Kamala Harris was president.

00:33:53.000 You're a bad person, and the entire movement doesn't deserve an apology.

00:33:58.000 You should just resign. 1.00

00:33:59.000 You're the scum of the earth. 1.00

00:33:59.000 You're a joke. 1.00

00:34:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody. 0.88

00:34:02.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 28, 2025

The Bill May Be Big and Beautiful, But Is It Passable?

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