The Charlie Kirk Show - The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman

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00:00:02.000 Andrew Colvett in for Charlie Kirk, who is with Vice President J.D. Vance today.

00:00:06.000 We have a phenomenal conversation off the heels of the Caroline Levitt White House press briefing, the first of many from her.

00:00:16.000 We welcome...

00:00:17.000 Constitutional scholar, legal expert John Eastman to the show to talk about birthright citizenship.

00:00:22.000 This is an issue that is going to be heating up and I believe is an open and shut constitutional case, but our country has gone afoul from that.

00:00:31.000 Where did it come from?

00:00:32.000 What were the original drafters of that amendment thinking when they wrote it?

00:00:36.000 Why have we gone astray?

00:00:38.000 And do we have a chance of setting things right?

00:00:40.000 Then I bring in Blake Neff to respond to all...

00:00:43.000 Well, not all of them.

00:00:43.000 There was a lot that happened.

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00:02:09.000 So without further ado, John Eastman, Senior Fellow at Claremont Institute.

00:02:14.000 And all things constitutional scholar, legal scholar, we're so honored to have him.

00:02:19.000 Welcome, Mr. Eastman, to the show.

00:02:22.000 Thank you, Andrew, for having me on and give my regards to Charlie.

00:02:25.000 I will.

00:02:27.000 I will.

00:02:27.000 Now, first, before we get into birthright citizenship, which you have written extensively about, I think your writings on it are the most clear-minded.

00:02:41.000 Please give us an update really quick.

00:02:58.000 Well, you know, despite the resounding victory that President Trump was delivered by the American people back November, the left doesn't seem to have gotten the memo.

00:03:07.000 They're still proceeding full force with the criminal indictments in Georgia and in Arizona.

00:03:13.000 We're still dealing with the California bar attempt to disbar me.

00:03:17.000 And, you know, I think the left, they're bound and determined to get people's scalps to scare other lawyers away from ever taking on clients or causes that the left disagrees with.

00:03:30.000 This is a threat to our rule of law, our adversarial system of justice, our constitutional rights.

00:03:37.000 And that's why I'm fighting it so hard.

00:03:39.000 You know, and there's a new documentary movie about all this called The Eastman Dilemma, Lawfare or Justice.

00:03:45.000 People can watch it for free right now before it goes up on the paid platforms just by going to EastmanDilemma.com.

00:03:53.000 I hope people watch it and circulate it and have viewing parties with their friends and neighbors because people need to understand what's going on here.

00:04:02.000 Well, I mean, we have your back 100%, John.

00:04:05.000 And what they've tried to do to you is just unconscionable.

00:04:09.000 And on behalf of a nation that is healing and I think ascendant once again, we, you know, we have your back and we're just, you know, I apologize on behalf of all of us, what you've had to endure.

00:04:21.000 And you're a great American and we have your back.

00:04:24.000 So, John.

00:04:25.000 You know, you have written, and go ahead and throw this graphic up, guys.

00:04:28.000 Birthright citizenship, a fundamental misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment.

00:04:33.000 Now, this was one of the president's executive orders right out the gate.

00:04:37.000 I 100 and 1,000% agree with this executive order.

00:04:42.000 But this was instantly challenged, I believe, in Seattle.

00:04:45.000 There was a press briefing right after.

00:04:48.000 And one of the quotes was that this judge had never seen such a brazenly...

00:04:59.000 So, I found that laughable, John.

00:05:01.000 Now, you are the expert here.

00:05:03.000 I want you to walk our audience through in the time we have with you.

00:05:07.000 Why is the 14th Amendment, why should it not apply to illegals? 0.99

00:05:12.000 Frankly, it should go further than that, but this executive order deals with illegal immigrants, the children they're of. 0.99

00:05:18.000 So, make the case, explain the history, the floor is yours.

00:05:22.000 Well, I think Senator Hiroma from Hawaii, on her tweet about this, indicates the problem.

00:05:30.000 She eliminated the key words from the 14th Amendment. 1.00

00:05:33.000 She said all persons born here are citizens.

00:05:35.000 Well, the clause she omitted from that is all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens.

00:05:44.000 And so the fight is what that phrase means.

00:05:47.000 And we don't have to speculate about it.

00:05:48.000 The drafters of the language, the people that proposed the 14th Amendment, The folks who ratified it all understood it meant complete jurisdiction, not what they called mere territorial or partial jurisdiction.

00:06:00.000 And if I can explain the difference with an analogy, suppose somebody from Great Britain is visiting the United States on a student visa or a work visa or just as a tourist.

00:06:09.000 They're subject to our laws while they're here.

00:06:12.000 That's subject to the territorial jurisdiction.

00:06:15.000 But they don't owe allegiance to country.

00:06:17.000 They're not subject to our more complete jurisdiction that was intended by that clause.

00:06:23.000 We can't charge them with treason if they take up arms against us, although that would probably be a crime as well.

00:06:30.000 We don't draft them into our army.

00:06:31.000 They don't get to vote while they're here.

00:06:33.000 They're not subject to that more complete jurisdiction.

00:06:35.000 They've never sworn an oath of allegiance to us.

00:06:38.000 And so President Trump's executive order picks up on that original understanding of the phrase.

00:06:44.000 And it's not just, you know.

00:06:45.000 My reading of those debates, the U.S. Supreme Court said the same thing in 1872 and 1884. The leading treatise writer of the day, Thomas Cooley, said exactly the same thing in his treatises in the 1870s.

00:06:59.000 The Attorney General of the United States and formal Attorney General opinions for the State Department said the same thing in the 1880s.

00:07:09.000 Children who were born here while their parents were temporarily visiting were not citizens.

00:07:14.000 The U.S. Congress.

00:07:15.000 After a Supreme Court decision awarded citizenship to the child of a lawful permanent couple from China.

00:07:23.000 You're talking about the case Wong Kim Ark, right? 0.63

00:07:30.000 Wong Kim Ark, 1898. And a lot of the critics of Trump's order are relying on that case.

00:07:35.000 But it dealt with the children of lawful permanent residents, green card holders in today's formulation.

00:07:44.000 But it repeatedly says they were permanently domiciled in this country.

00:07:48.000 And so that distinction, whether that case...

00:07:51.000 Itself went too far or not.

00:07:53.000 It clearly didn't go any further than that.

00:07:55.000 It clearly doesn't address children of temporary visitors here, and it clearly doesn't address people who are here illegally in the first place.

00:08:04.000 So Wong Kim Ark does not settle the question, as many are now claiming.

00:08:08.000 Honest scholars for decades have recognized that.

00:08:11.000 If it did settle the question and anybody born on the U.S. soil was a citizen, then why did Congress need to offer citizenship in the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 to all Native Americans who were born on U.S. soil?

00:08:25.000 The fact is they needed to do that under the naturalization power because they were not guaranteed citizenship under the 14th Amendment.

00:08:32.000 And neither are temporary visitors.

00:08:34.000 Neither are...

00:08:35.000 Illegal immigrants to this country. 0.99

00:08:37.000 I think President Trump's executive order is going to force the court to finally resolve that issue in the way that the framers of the 14th Amendment actually intended.

00:08:48.000 I want to pause on this, the Native American piece of this, because I think this does not get enough play in this debate.

00:08:58.000 Framers basically had a discussion about that of the 14th Amendment.

00:09:03.000 There was a debate about this and they basically said of course they don't get citizenship.

00:09:08.000 There was actually a debate of whether or not they needed to add more language and they basically said of course not because they're only partially under our jurisdiction.

00:09:17.000 They owe allegiance to the tribal nations at the time.

00:09:22.000 So they did not benefit from this.

00:09:24.000 So the question then becomes why Would they not be automatically made citizens by the 14th Amendment when they were clearly born on American soil?

00:09:34.000 And the answer lies in this distinction that you're making about partial versus complete jurisdiction, which is kind of a wonky in the weeds argument, but it makes all the difference in the world.

00:09:47.000 And I think just looking on social media, I can tell that most of the rebuttals To these arguments, it's always like, well, of course they're subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

00:09:59.000 They're in the country, they're subject to our jurisdiction. 0.85

00:10:02.000 Well, yeah.

00:10:03.000 No, look, and they even make the silly argument.

00:10:05.000 Well, if they're not subject to our jurisdiction, then we can't deport them for violating our laws.

00:10:09.000 That's just utter nonsense.

00:10:10.000 The distinction between territorial jurisdiction and complete jurisdiction is what they intended.

00:10:15.000 It's easy enough to understand for normal people.

00:10:18.000 And that's what the 14th Amendment says.

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00:11:48.000 I want to go through a couple of facts here for you, John.

00:11:51.000 Now, these are not as much in the legal.

00:11:54.000 Weeds here, but I just want everybody to understand the impact of granting automatic birthright citizenship to any child born on US soil.

00:12:02.000 In 2023, there was between 225,000 and 250,000 babies born to illegal immigrants in the United States.

00:12:10.000 That's more than the babies born in all but two US states, if you take them individually.

00:12:16.000 That's also more than the total number of babies born.

00:12:20.000 To legal non-citizens. 0.52

00:12:21.000 So we have a whole category for legal citizenship, right?

00:12:24.000 The babies born of that category is not as much as the babies of illegals. 0.83

00:12:28.000 That's how big the problem has become.

00:12:30.000 Right now, there are reports, especially within the Indian community, of mothers lining up for preterm C-sections to beat President Trump's February 20th cutoff date.

00:12:43.000 That's right.

00:12:43.000 They're lining up.

00:12:44.000 Some of these mothers are as early as seven months gestation.

00:12:47.000 This is a verified reporting.

00:12:50.000 France, New Zealand, and Australia have all abandoned birthright citizenship in the past few decades.

00:12:56.000 Ireland was the last country in the European Union to follow the practice, and they ended it in 2005. So, they call it, you know the pronunciation better than I, but it's jus soli, which is kind of the old Latin term for it, the legal term.

00:13:12.000 It was a tool that was used by colonialists.

00:13:16.000 To incentivize settlers to the new world.

00:13:18.000 That's why if you look at the map right now, most of the countries that have birthright citizenship are in the Western Hemisphere.

00:13:24.000 But a little bit seedier version of that reading is that it was used to displace native populations in the new world.

00:13:33.000 It was trying to bring settlers from the old world to the new to displace those people and to create a new civilization. 1.00

00:13:39.000 They want to break the systemically racist cultural back of America is what they see of it.

00:13:45.000 So my point to you is this is not some in the weeds thing.

00:13:49.000 This is having a fundamental cultural, civilizational, legal impact.

00:13:54.000 Here and now.

00:13:55.000 Look, I agree.

00:13:57.000 Birthright citizenship is one of the three primary magnets for illegal immigration.

00:14:01.000 You know, getting a job and making a better life for your family is probably the primary one.

00:14:07.000 But birthright citizenship is one of the top three.

00:14:10.000 And they think they get the Holy Grail of United States citizenship by merely having their children born here.

00:14:16.000 It's just not true.

00:14:17.000 That's not what the 14th Amendment said.

00:14:19.000 But look, the idea of youth solely, that's the old English common law, and it had two components.

00:14:25.000 If you're born on the king's soil, you are the king's subject, and you can never leave as a king's subject.

00:14:33.000 You're irrevocably the king's subject.

00:14:35.000 He has control over you for the rest of your life if you're born on his soil. 0.99

00:14:39.000 That was you solely.

00:14:40.000 We repudiated that with the Declaration of Independence in explicit terms at the end.

00:14:46.000 We hereby absolve all allegiance to the king.

00:14:49.000 I mean, they could not have been more clear that they were rejecting you solely.

00:14:55.000 This birth citizenship notion.

00:14:56.000 And it was birth subject ship.

00:14:58.000 It was an outgrowth of feudal Europe.

00:15:01.000 And we rejected it.

00:15:02.000 We instead formed governments based on mutual consent of the governed.

00:15:07.000 And what birthright citizenship does is let people to whom we have never given cent to join our political community.

00:15:14.000 To demand it unilaterally by their own actions, even if they are in violation of our laws at the time they're doing it.

00:15:21.000 That completely destroys consent of the governed, the cornerstone principle of our system of government.

00:15:28.000 I've never heard that point made, John, and that's really, really profound.

00:15:33.000 And actually, the framers of the Constitution never actually defined...

00:15:39.000 Citizenship.

00:15:40.000 So the point that's very interesting here is that the 14th Amendment, during the debates, they say this is going to clarify this once and for all of who can be a citizen and who cannot be.

00:15:51.000 And it's just amazing if you read back into the writings of that time.

00:15:56.000 It's rather sparse, but they're very clear that, of course...

00:16:00.000 This would not include foreigners.

00:16:02.000 Of course, this would not include people that owed allegiance to other nations, including Indians.

00:16:07.000 It was specifically to right the wrong of slavery and the children born of slaves and to rectify that historic wrong.

00:16:14.000 It was not to reward people who broke our laws.

00:16:18.000 And I believe that the language is very clear in that.

00:16:20.000 And I want to give you a chance to respond about...

00:16:22.000 The 1866 Civil Rights Act, for example, attempting to codify the 1866 Civil Rights Act.

00:16:28.000 So some people have made much of the fact that the language in the 66 Civil Rights Act more clearly bars The reason the language was changed is because the controversy over whether Native American tribes were foreign powers or domestic powers.

00:16:47.000 And they're domestic powers.

00:16:48.000 So they changed the language to be not subject to the jurisdiction thereof to cover both domestic powers like Indian tribes and foreign powers.

00:16:57.000 And that was all it was designed to accomplish.

00:17:00.000 And there was a whole debate about this.

00:17:01.000 Well, don't we also need to say, and Indians not taxed like we do with the 66 Civil Rights Act?

00:17:06.000 And they said, no, that's already covered by the subject to the jurisdiction clause because they're not subject to the complete jurisdiction.

00:17:13.000 And if you're not subject to the complete jurisdiction, this clause of the Constitution does not guarantee you automatic citizenship.

00:17:20.000 Now, I want to I want to take this to our current day.

00:17:23.000 Do you expect the current Supreme Court, including Amy Coney Barrett and all of this, will they support the president's EO or do you expect there to be a split court or ruling against this?

00:17:39.000 I don't know the answer to that.

00:17:43.000 You know, the Supreme Court has never addressed this issue square on.

00:17:46.000 Wong Kim Ark, as we pointed out, the 1898 case, it was limited to the children of...

00:17:54.000 Permanently domiciled parents.

00:17:56.000 They weren't citizens.

00:17:58.000 We wouldn't let them become citizens.

00:18:00.000 They had exhibited their allegiance to this country as far as we let them go.

00:18:04.000 And in a footnote in Dicta, in another case in the 1980s, they suggested that anybody born on the soil is subject to the jurisdiction there, is citizens.

00:18:15.000 But they never grappled with the question in that case.

00:18:19.000 So this will be the first opportunity for them to do so.

00:18:22.000 Very prominent judge.

00:18:24.000 Richard Posner in the Seventh Circuit out of Chicago some years ago, basically said, our reading of the 14th Amendment is right, and the government needs to get back on board with understanding what the amendment actually requires.

00:18:37.000 Other leading scholars, not just me, but my colleagues at Claremont Institute, like Ed Erler and Tom West, But Yale law professor and political science professors, Roger Smith and Peter Shuck, I think Roger Smith is now at University of Pennsylvania.

00:18:52.000 The late Lino Gralia at the University of Texas Law School.

00:18:55.000 A number of very prominent scholars that have actually done the work and looked at the original understanding and look at the original documents and the original debates have all come to the same conclusion that birthright citizenship does not extend to people who are, to use the language of the day, Temporary sojourners, temporary visitors.

00:19:15.000 That would include tourists.

00:19:16.000 That would include people on student visas or H-1B visas or work visas.

00:19:21.000 And then, of course, people who had never had any permission to be here in the first place.

00:19:25.000 Well, yeah, and you've got to imagine that the 14th Amendment framers, the drafters of that amendment, had no idea that even air travel...

00:19:34.000 Was going to be a thing.

00:19:36.000 They had no idea that human beings were going to be able to crisscross the earth as they do now.

00:19:42.000 And finally here, John, I just want to give you a second to react to this blizzard of activity from President Trump.

00:19:50.000 I know you've been with him in very intimate settings.

00:19:53.000 What do you make of it?

00:19:54.000 The floor is yours.

00:19:55.000 Yeah, no, it's shock and awe.

00:19:58.000 It's really stunning.

00:19:59.000 I mean, I knew they were working on a lot of major initiatives that they wanted to put in place quickly.

00:20:07.000 But even I couldn't have imagined how broad and how quick the turnaround that they have launched in our government.

00:20:16.000 Look, our government's been on autopilot getting further and further out of control for nearly a century.

00:20:22.000 And it was going to take a monumental effort to reverse that.

00:20:25.000 And Trump's done it in a week.

00:20:27.000 I mean, it's just, it's really stunning.

00:20:29.000 And, you know, more power to him.

00:20:31.000 But I don't think he would have had that ability.

00:20:35.000 To do that, if he hadn't seen the true depth of depravity of the deep state in his first term, and then had an election stolen from him in his second term that just gained him the resilience and the tenacity to do the kind of things he's doing this past week.

00:20:50.000 I have trouble keeping it up.

00:20:52.000 I kind of know a little bit about what's going on.

00:20:55.000 It's overwhelming, and it's exciting and encouraging.

00:21:01.000 John Eastman?

00:21:02.000 Thank you for your time.

00:21:03.000 Thanks for being flexible with us today.

00:21:05.000 God bless you, sir.

00:21:07.000 And we got your back.

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00:22:12.000 Let's go through this Caroline Levitt presser.

00:22:15.000 Let's just go ahead and play Cut 95. The first week that the president was in office, signed an executive order as it relates to birthright citizenship, trying to eliminate that.

00:22:26.000 Now, 22 state attorney generals have said that this is unconstitutional.

00:22:33.000 A federal judge has just agreed with their argument.

00:22:36.000 What's the administration's argument for doing away with birthright citizenship?

00:22:41.000 The folks that you mentioned have a right to have that legal opinion, but it is in disagreement with the legal opinion of this administration.

00:22:49.000 This administration believes that birthright citizenship is unconstitutional, and that is why President Trump signed that executive order.

00:22:57.000 Illegal immigrants who come to this country and have a child are not subject to the laws of this jurisdiction. 0.98

00:23:04.000 That's the opinion of this administration.

00:23:06.000 We have already appealed the rule, the lawsuit that was filed against this administration, and we are prepared to fight this all the way to the Supreme Court if we have to, because President Trump believes that this is a necessary step to secure our nation's borders and protect our homeland.

00:23:21.000 Blake, I thought that was the appropriate place to start here, given the conversation with John Eastman.

00:23:26.000 What's your take on President Trump and this administration's odds of success at the Supreme Court?

00:23:33.000 You know, I have some friends who have clerked at the Supreme Court.

00:23:37.000 All the Supreme Court justices have clerks.

00:23:39.000 They're very important in the whole process of creating opinions, creating the rulings that they give.

00:23:45.000 And they can give a lot of insight into how the Supreme Court works because it's a bit of a black box.

00:23:50.000 And unfortunately, what they told me is they're skeptical on the birthright citizenship one.

00:23:56.000 The line I heard was maybe like two votes is the most likely.

00:24:01.000 And you're probably under 50% on the third vote, which they believed would be Gorsuch.

00:24:06.000 So you're looking at a tough uphill battle.

00:24:10.000 You're thinking, well, maybe Sotomayor will die or have to retire.

00:24:15.000 You could replace her.

00:24:17.000 Maybe Roberts will retire.

00:24:18.000 Maybe you get that fifth vote from Gorsuch.

00:24:20.000 But another thing that can be said is if this becomes a public debate, if you suddenly have it being made very clear that the new conservative consensus is This was wrongly decided.

00:24:33.000 People will start writing the papers, giving the lectures, laying out the Constitution.

00:24:37.000 Universal birthright citizenship is a misreading of the Constitution.

00:24:41.000 And Supreme Court justices, it's not even saying they respond to public opinion.

00:24:46.000 They're human beings, and they can be influenced by what the wider zeitgeist is, what the growing consensus is.

00:24:55.000 And you can maybe influence them.

00:24:58.000 In that direction.

00:24:59.000 It will also matter if they start getting clerks who have been raised in that sentiment in the Federalist Society and those groups that raise conservative guys.

00:25:08.000 That said, overall, I don't think our odds are great, but it would be better for us to get an explicit Supreme Court ruling on this than to have the existing situation where we're just going off a 150-year-old Supreme Court decision that...

00:25:25.000 Everyone is just taking for granted that it means this.

00:25:29.000 Explicitly lay out the supposed reasoning because then that reasoning can be attacked.

00:25:33.000 We can make it a new litmus test for future Supreme Court justices and so on.

00:25:37.000 Yeah, I'm worried you might be right.

00:25:39.000 I find that disheartening.

00:25:41.000 Let's go ahead and play cut 96. This White House believes strongly in the First Amendment.

00:25:48.000 So it's why our team will work diligently to restore the press passes of the 440 journalists whose passes were wrongly revoked by the previous administration.

00:25:58.000 We're also opening up this briefing room to new media voices who produce news-related content and whose outlet is not already represented by one of the seats in this room.

00:26:08.000 We welcome independent journalists, podcasters, social media influencers, and content creators to apply for credentials to cover All right, so I'm going to respond to this.

00:26:20.000 But, you know, I think this is massive, massive news.

00:26:25.000 And as somebody that part of my job is working with mainstream news media, legacy news media, I, you know, for those who don't know, I serve as the spokesman for Turning Point when Charlie's not available or chooses not to participate.

00:26:38.000 So I have to interact with these people a lot.

00:26:41.000 And I will just tell you that there is a...

00:26:44.000 Huge amount of them that are wildly unimpressive and that have their jobs simply because they've climbed through a pecking order and towed the party line.

00:26:53.000 There's editorial constraints involved.

00:26:55.000 For example, you have to call January 6th an insurrection at some of these outlets.

00:27:02.000 You have to say that the 2020 election was the most secure election in the history of elections.

00:27:08.000 These are things that they are forced To say in print or on air at many of the legacy news media outlets.

00:27:15.000 That is wildly out of step with the people that just elected Donald Trump as their 47th president.

00:27:20.000 So there is a fundamental disconnect between the people and the news agencies and the news outlets that are allowed into that room, or at least historically.

00:27:30.000 Caroline Levitt is blowing up an old paradigm. 1.00

00:27:32.000 It needed to be blown up.

00:27:34.000 It needed to be reset.

00:27:35.000 It needed to be reformulated.

00:27:38.000 All for it.

00:27:38.000 I think Joe Rogan should be in that room.

00:27:40.000 I think Russell Brand should be in that room.

00:27:43.000 I think Charlie Kirk should be in that room.

00:27:46.000 And if Charlie doesn't want to do it, me or Blake will do it for him.

00:27:49.000 But I'm so thrilled that we already have a Turning Point USA White House correspondent.

00:27:53.000 She's a true journalist, a real cut in the mold.

00:27:57.000 of truth and honesty, integrity.

00:27:59.000 Yes, she has a POV, but don't for a second think that these other journalists don't have a POV because they are absolutely water holders of the regime media.

00:28:07.000 They have been an enemy of the people because they have been an enemy of truth.

00:28:11.000 Now, I'm not saying they need to be arrested.

00:28:14.000 Some of you in the audience will disagree with me on that.

00:28:16.000 I'm simply saying that it is time for the scales of coverage and justice and truth to be rebalanced.

00:28:23.000 And this is a fundamental step in the right direction.

00:28:26.000 This was just a mic drop moment.

00:28:28.000 I'm going to play.

00:28:28.000 This is Caroline Levitt on illegal immigrants.

00:28:31.000 One of the themes from this was that legacy news media cared so much about illegal immigrants.

00:28:36.000 They call them undocumented migrants.

00:28:39.000 Well, that is a sleight of hand trick that they use to make you feel compassion for people that broke our laws and are not here under our welcome.

00:28:47.000 They will be removed.

00:28:48.000 Caroline Levitt made that very clear, 97. 1.00

00:28:51.000 Can you just tell us the numbers?

00:28:53.000 How many have a criminal record versus those who are just in the country illegally?

00:28:57.000 All of them, because they illegally broke our nation's laws and therefore they are criminals as far as this administration goes.

00:29:02.000 I know the last administration didn't see it that way, so it's a big culture shift in our nation to view someone who breaks our immigration laws as a criminal, but that's exactly what they are. 0.72

00:29:10.000 Blake, your thoughts on Caroline's mic drop moment.

00:29:15.000 Pretty cut and dry, as I would see it.

00:29:17.000 It gets at the most appealing thing about this early administration.

00:29:21.000 Well, second most.

00:29:22.000 The most appealing thing is how aggressive they've been, how they clearly came in with a plan.

00:29:28.000 We're going to do lots of stuff.

00:29:30.000 We're going to do this blitzkrieg, this shock and awe strategy.

00:29:33.000 It's going to overwhelm the 24-hour news cycle's ability to keep up with it.

00:29:39.000 But the other thing is just this total attitude shift.

00:29:42.000 And for you or I, you know, we grew up in this very, we came of age in this very defeated late George W. Bush and then later McCain-Romney era where conservatives were very, they were very overawed rhetorically.

00:29:58.000 They always kind of were apologetic.

00:30:01.000 They kind of needed permission for the opinions they would hold.

00:30:05.000 It made them naturally weak.

00:30:07.000 When you basically need permission to do anything from your enemies, shocker, they won't give you permission to do it.

00:30:13.000 So if you're going to be a winning party, you just have to be a lot more assertive.

00:30:18.000 And that's not just assertive in policy.

00:30:19.000 It's assertive in every single dimension of politics.

00:30:22.000 So they're vastly more gung-ho.

00:30:25.000 Just, yep, they're illegal immigrants. 0.97

00:30:27.000 They're here illegally. 0.99

00:30:28.000 We're going to do this.

00:30:31.000 They just have to play ball with it.

00:30:33.000 And so I even, you know, I've said it behind, like, I think the Gulf of America thing is kind of silly, and I'm probably not going to call it that myself.

00:30:41.000 But, like, the sheer cojones to make that push.

00:30:45.000 We're like, yep, we're going to be renaming things because, you know, the left renames things all the time, and you guys all cheerlead it.

00:30:51.000 We can do that, too.

00:30:52.000 It's this very aggressive posture that is the sort of thing that gets you wins.

00:30:58.000 The more aggressive party in politics, Yeah, I think that's right, Blake.

00:31:05.000 And I want to go back to what you just said, this assertive tone, this change.

00:31:09.000 You saw this also with the J.D. Vance interview with Margaret Brennan at CBS over the weekend, where he said, you know, frankly, Margaret, I don't care.

00:31:18.000 I don't give a damn with some of the memes that were coming out.

00:31:21.000 Let's go ahead and play, I believe it was this cut, cut two.

00:31:24.000 Well, Margaret, I don't agree that all these immigrants or all these refugees have been properly vetted. 1.00

00:31:29.000 In fact, we know that there are cases of people who allegedly were properly vetted and then were literally planning terrorist attacks on our country.

00:31:37.000 That happened during the campaign, if you may remember.

00:31:39.000 So clearly not all of these foreign nationals have been properly vetted.

00:31:42.000 No, but there are 30,000 people in the pipeline.

00:31:44.000 Afghan refugees.

00:31:45.000 But my primary concern as the Vice President, Margaret, is to look after the American people.

00:31:49.000 And now that we know that we have vetting problems with a lot of these refugee programs, we absolutely cannot unleash thousands of unvetted people into our country. 1.00

00:31:59.000 It's not good.

00:32:00.000 These people are vetted.

00:32:01.000 Just like the guy who played a terrorist attack in Oklahoma a few months ago, he was allegedly properly vetted.

00:32:05.000 And many people in the media and the Democratic Party said that he was properly vetted.

00:32:10.000 Clearly he wasn't.

00:32:11.000 I don't want my children to share a neighborhood with people who are not properly vetted.

00:32:16.000 And because I don't want it for my kids, I'm not going to force any other American citizens' kids to do that either.

00:32:21.000 Well, it didn't have that line, but it was still very, very good.

00:32:23.000 You know, Peachy Keenan, who's come on this show actually recently because her house almost burned down in Los Angeles, she made a really interesting point, Blake, about that look that legacy news media, that look that Margaret Brennan, where she kind of...

00:32:36.000 It's just an elitist smug tone where they try and get in like a point and sneer at you.

00:32:41.000 And it's basically like her observation, this is a look that these elitist journalists have been giving conservative politicians, leaders for a long time.

00:32:53.000 And it basically says, you're so dumb, like you don't deserve to be here.

00:32:58.000 And it's worked.

00:33:00.000 For years.

00:33:01.000 And that's why I think this tone shift is so powerful.

00:33:04.000 When we talk about what this is doing to the culture, we are seeing a re-emergence of this powerful masculine energy that wants to protect the country, and we won't be cowed by these women anymore. 0.99

00:33:16.000 Or men.

00:33:17.000 And just the sniping questions, all of that.

00:33:21.000 And I think that will also be a boon from the way they've changed the White House...

00:33:27.000 You know, the White House press briefings to incorporate more podcasters and the like.

00:33:31.000 And, you know, what's funny is if you watch Joe Rogan interview someone, it actually often comes off as more professional than, you know, that weekend interview was.

00:33:42.000 He's able to probe at someone.

00:33:43.000 He's actually able to interrogate someone's premises.

00:33:46.000 He can actually be a pretty aggressive, even hostile interviewer.

00:33:49.000 But he's also, at the same time, he's more professional.

00:33:52.000 It doesn't come off as a lecture.

00:33:55.000 It's such a different situation.

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00:35:02.000 I don't even want to play the clip.

00:35:03.000 You can just...

00:35:04.000 The floor is yours.

00:35:05.000 Take a bow on the UFO thing and I want to get into eggs.

00:35:07.000 Alright?

00:35:08.000 Alright.

00:35:09.000 Yes!

00:35:10.000 Alright.

00:35:11.000 Now, let us just all remember at the start of the year we had those mysterious sightings of all the drones.

00:35:17.000 No, it wasn't even at the start of the year.

00:35:19.000 It was the end of last year.

00:35:20.000 All those drones in New Jersey.

00:35:22.000 We debated it on the show.

00:35:24.000 What are the drones?

00:35:25.000 And I will just say I told you guys it's just people freaking out.

00:35:30.000 It's just a panic.

00:35:31.000 Everyone's going to forget about it once there's something new on television.

00:35:34.000 And it was true. 0.94

00:35:35.000 Everyone forgot about it once something new was on television.

00:35:37.000 But they came back to it today in the press conference.

00:35:43.000 Caroline Levitt delivered an update.

00:35:44.000 And it was approved FCC flights plus some hobbyists.

00:35:50.000 FAA flights plus some hobbyists.

00:35:54.000 And then people got excited and they were all looking in the sky and they started seeing things.

00:36:00.000 Normally, you don't look at the sky, but it was all normal.

00:36:03.000 It was just people freaking out.

00:36:05.000 Blake was right.

00:36:08.000 We'll give it to you, Blake.

00:36:09.000 We're going to move on to the eggs thing.

00:36:11.000 Yes, you take the bow, Blake.

00:36:13.000 The eggs thing, I think, is actually hilarious because I think it's a big self-own admitting that they are, in fact, losing on every single front.

00:36:21.000 So what is the left doing?

00:36:22.000 They're like, well, Trump's been in office for six, seven days, and he hasn't lowered the price of eggs.

00:36:28.000 Like, I'm sorry, but if that's what you're clinging to and you spent the last four years defending how high the price of eggs has gone, I think you should sit this one out.

00:36:37.000 But let's go ahead and play the clip.

00:36:40.000 Looks like, yep, clip 101. This is Caroline Levitt setting the record straight. 0.99

00:36:44.000 Egg prices have skyrocketed since President Trump took office.

00:36:48.000 So what specifically is he doing to lower those costs for Americans?

00:36:51.000 Really glad you brought this up, because there is a lot of reporting out there that is putting the onus on this White House for the increased cost of eggs.

00:36:59.000 I would like to point out to each and every one of you that in 2024, when Joe Biden was in the Oval Office, or upstairs in the residence sleeping, I'm not so sure, egg prices increased 65% in this country.

00:37:12.000 We also have seen the cost of everything, not just eggs.

00:37:15.000 Bacon, groceries, gasoline have increased because of the inflationary policies of the last administration.

00:37:22.000 Well, and what she doesn't mention there is the fact that 100 million chickens were killed because of an outbreak of avian flu, bird flu.

00:37:32.000 So the whole point here is...

00:37:35.000 These are adversarial media.

00:37:37.000 We get it.

00:37:37.000 They're going to try and play gotcha games with her.

00:37:39.000 But there's really no gotcha to be had.

00:37:41.000 The price increase that you're seeing in eggs right now was a process set in motion by the previous administration, both inflationary pressures and spending, but also because a lot of birds have been killed that lay eggs.

00:37:53.000 Therefore, the supply has gone down.

00:37:55.000 The price is going to go up.

00:37:56.000 Now, whether or not Trump can fix that...

00:37:59.000 You know, remains to be seen.

00:38:00.000 I would think there's some things we can do, but, you know, growing 100 million new and raising 100 new chickens to lay eggs is going to take a little bit of time.

00:38:08.000 But, Blake, just react to the fact that their best thing, I mean, this is like Harry Sisson, that Parker kid, they're all posting about eggs online.

00:38:16.000 They think it's like this big own on President Trump.

00:38:19.000 Is that really all they have?

00:38:21.000 Yeah, it's definitely a retread.

00:38:24.000 They just have to dig up.

00:38:25.000 Well, it worked on Biden.

00:38:26.000 But contextually, the reason it worked on Biden was a few things.

00:38:30.000 It worked on Biden because Biden very obviously did stuff to cause massive inflation.

00:38:36.000 He let a million people into the country.

00:38:39.000 He continued COVID lockdowns while continuing to give tons of stimulus to try to offset it.

00:38:45.000 And then, most importantly...

00:38:46.000 The Biden administration massively lied about it.

00:38:49.000 They said all of 2021, there's no signs any inflation is going to happen.

00:38:54.000 Definitely not.

00:38:55.000 Ignore what all of your friends are saying.

00:38:57.000 Ignore the menus at the restaurant.

00:38:58.000 They just lied about it for ages.

00:39:00.000 Then they belatedly admitted it was happening and then passed a bill that they called the Inflation Reduction Act that did nothing to reduce inflation and was in fact a bunch of additional spending.

00:39:12.000 The reason it worked on Biden was that everything in his terrible administration came together to force this giant inflation narrative.

00:39:21.000 Whereas, okay, Trump, egg prices are going up.

00:39:24.000 I suspect they will do their best to handle that, but it's not fitting into this wider epidemic of failure that was the Biden administration.

00:39:34.000 All right, Blake, last question.

00:39:36.000 Give the first week of the Trump administration a grade.

00:39:40.000 Honestly, I'm just going to say 10 out of 10. They actually came out.

00:39:44.000 They did the stuff that I wanted a Trump administration to do in its first week.

00:39:50.000 They have done.

00:39:50.000 I can't confirm.

00:39:51.000 It's all going to work out long term.

00:39:53.000 We'll see on Birthright.

00:39:55.000 We'll see on deportations.

00:39:56.000 But they are doing what I wanted them to do week one.

00:40:00.000 Maybe 9 out of 10 for Blake Neff.

00:40:03.000 Mr. Cynical, Mr. Contrarian.

00:40:05.000 I still think Gulf of America is a little whatever.

00:40:08.000 Oh, it's perfect.

00:40:09.000 I'm going to get a t-shirt made for the audience.

00:40:11.000 As a matter of fact, you can get that at charliekirk.com slash store coming out soon.

00:40:16.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:40:18.000 Talk to you soon.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 29, 2025

The Birthright Citizenship Scam + Rating Trump's Week 1 ft. John Eastman

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