The Charlie Kirk Show - The BLM-Hamas Connection: The "Racism Bundle" with Jason Whitlock

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00:01:35.000 Joining us now is one of my favorite guests, one of the most important voices in the movement, Jason Whitlock, Blaze host of Fearless.

00:01:43.000 Jason, thank you for joining us.

00:01:45.000 We'll talk later in the show maybe about how you're trying to take Super Bowl Sunday away from me.

00:01:49.000 I don't know if that's public or not, but I'll blame you for that.

00:01:52.000 But I'm on board because the cause comes above my comfort.

00:01:55.000 But Jason, I want to start with BLM.

00:01:59.000 What on earth does BLM have in common with the Palestinian movement, Students for Justice of Palestine?

00:02:04.000 I mean, you see BLM, they post this picture, Black Lives Matter Global Network of Chicago, praising the paragliders. 0.63

00:02:11.000 Where did this come from?

00:02:12.000 How should we think about this?

00:02:14.000 It's a great question, great topic.

00:02:17.000 It's what I'm going to be going into in detail on my show today.

00:02:23.000 And there's what I'm calling the racism bundle.

00:02:30.000 And the entire leftist agenda is based on this argument about racism.

00:02:39.000 And so they get people to buy into the narrative that America is irredeemably racist, controlled by white supremacists, and people, the last thing anybody wants to be called is a racist.

00:02:56.000 And then once they get you afraid of being a racist and committed to being an anti-racist, then they sell you all this other stuff from LGBTQ to being pro-Palestine, being pro-Hamas, being anti-Israel. 0.51

00:03:15.000 They sell you feminism. 1.00

00:03:16.000 They sell you climate change.

00:03:18.000 It's all this stuff that's a part of this racism bundle and this brilliant marketing scheme that the left has come up with.

00:03:27.000 And so being pro-Palestine, BLM has never hid that.

00:03:33.000 If you go look at there's a video of Patrice Colors early on, I think in 2015, talking about being pro-Palestine and seeing Israel as South African apartheid.

00:03:46.000 So this is just all a part of the packaging.

00:03:49.000 And so when people look out at these college campuses and across the country and these major cities where everybody is protesting in support of Palestine and against Israel, this is all a part of a package that we've been sold from LGBTQ to climate change to Israel is the worst thing on the planet. 0.77

00:04:13.000 And, you know, they're oppressing the people of Palestine. 1.00

00:04:17.000 It's all connected.

00:04:19.000 So I'm not surprised.

00:04:21.000 The package deal, I love that.

00:04:23.000 It's almost like a poor man's cable package deal that they're always advertising, right?

00:04:28.000 Where you can get a bundle package and you can get your trans stuff, you can get your open border stuff, you can get your Palestine stuff. 0.81

00:04:35.000 So, Jason, one thing I want to explore with you is that I've been waiting, eagerly waiting, to see whether or not Black America is going to start pushing back against white liberal colonialism, basically, because this is kind of like the choice items of upper middle class, academic, white culture.

00:04:55.000 And they're using Black America as a way to try to advance their political agenda.

00:05:00.000 I'm starting to see it happen a little bit, but I think this is a breaking point that eventually will occur where the rank and file of the black community wake up and realize that they're used as pawns for ideas that are actually against their own.

00:05:14.000 I'm not as optimistic.

00:05:16.000 And I do see little signs of people waking up.

00:05:21.000 But this whole narrative about racism is so central to the identity of many black people that, again, there's nothing we won't accept as part of the race. 0.94

00:05:37.000 Again, it's like for sports fans.

00:05:39.000 I'm an ESPN person.

00:05:41.000 I need ESPN.

00:05:43.000 And so I'll take everything else that comes in the cable bundle to keep my ESPN.

00:05:49.000 And this racism narrative with us is idolatry.

00:05:56.000 And, you know, we've turned, we've got this racial idolatry problem that allows all these other things that go against our values to glom on to the racial deal.

00:06:08.000 And so I think with black women, they've used the racial narrative to advance in corporate America. 1.00

00:06:17.000 And they're not going, because in order to fully wake up, you're going to have to reckon with like, hey, this narrative we have about racism being the number one problem and destroying all of our lives and so pervasive.

00:06:32.000 You got to give that up in order to see the fraudulence, these other things. 0.65

00:06:38.000 And I'm just not sure if the black woman is going to do that. 1.00

00:06:42.000 And so many black men are fearful of losing their relationship or access to black women that we go along with that victim narrative to keep peace in the home and to keep peace in our relationships.

00:06:58.000 And so it's very difficult, but some people are waking up.

00:07:04.000 It's one of the reasons why I spend so much time talking about a biblical worldview of Christianity.

00:07:12.000 I'm trying to explain to people like this is a spiritual war.

00:07:18.000 And you don't understand how your racial idolatry is walking you away from your biblical values.

00:07:25.000 This racism bundle is why you have to be in support of the LGBTQ. 0.98

00:07:32.000 It's why you have to believe in climate change.

00:07:35.000 It's why you have to believe in feminism. 1.00

00:07:38.000 And so I'm trying to explain to black men, it's like that racial narrative is why you think your woman should be your leader. 0.67

00:07:47.000 Because feminism comes along with the racial, the racial bundle. 1.00

00:07:53.000 And it's tough, man.

00:07:57.000 And it takes a set.

00:07:59.000 It takes a pair to stand up against all that.

00:08:03.000 And so I do think there are some people waking up, but.

00:08:07.000 Well, I love your honest cynicism because it's probably true.

00:08:14.000 I'm trying to find some optimism here, but I think you're onto something, though.

00:08:18.000 Let me say one other thing as it relates to, because this is an issue white guys don't have to deal with.

00:08:24.000 But in order to stand on your biblical values in a real way, now you can go to church on Sunday and then throw out all your biblical values, but in order to stand on them seven days a week, you're going to disrupt your social life.

00:08:40.000 You're going to lose a lot of friends and you're not going to get invited to all the things you used to be invited to.

00:08:47.000 That's a price black men, heterosexual black men, have to pay that white guys don't, that you can keep a lot of your social circle.

00:08:57.000 You don't get thrown out of the white race for being an evangelical. 0.87

00:09:02.000 No, in fact, it's actually supported in like waspy circles. 0.97

00:09:06.000 You know, you sit around in a wasp country club and you talk about how insane, you know, the trans thing is until recently when some of the neurotic women get involved. 1.00

00:09:15.000 But I mean, just for example, you know, in WASP culture, right, white Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture, you're not talking openly about infidelity and you're not necessarily talking about, you know, I don't know, like the most radical trans stuff.

00:09:30.000 Where did that come from?

00:09:32.000 Where you're considered a race traitor if you actually believe in the Bible?

00:09:38.000 It comes from academia, the education system, and it comes from the great society movement and making the government an idol and making the government your God.

00:09:54.000 And so there's a lot of people that say they're Christians, but their actions say that government is their actual God and that they took the deal that LBJ and the Democrat Party offered them in the 1960s of a government check and government support rather than a man in your home leading your household.

00:10:18.000 People took that deal and we're suffering the consequences of that for the last 60, 70 years.

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00:11:39.000 Jason, over the last week and a half, we predicted this last week.

00:11:43.000 The level of intensity in language and what you could call roughly the conservative movement has reached a fever pitch on social media.

00:11:50.000 It started with, you know, rather agreement, terrible what happened in Israel.

00:11:55.000 And as some people started to ask questions or have differences how to respond, all of a sudden the term anti-Semite Jew hater has been thrown out like a frisbee, quite honestly, including myself, which is hilarious.

00:12:07.000 Jason, how should we think about this?

00:12:09.000 Because we're seeing, and Semaphore wrote an article about this, basically a heated division in the conservative movement, rather unnecessarily over Israel, a foreign country.

00:12:21.000 Where does this come from, and why has it become so divisive?

00:12:25.000 Well, I mean, wow, that's if you talk about Israel versus Palestine, that's a big, complicated topic.

00:12:32.000 And now, when you add in the element, take someone like myself, who is hardcore America first.

00:12:42.000 And so we look at the events, the tragedy that happened in Israel, and we're very sympathetic.

00:12:50.000 We think it's outrageous, but we're so concerned about what's happening here in America, and we're so skeptical or cynical about like these foreign conflicts and how our emotions get used to involve us in events that lead to a 20-year war in the Middle East and all that.

00:13:12.000 And so there have been some of us that are hardcore America first that are like, hey, let's pump the brakes before we just sign off on involving ourselves in a conflict in the Middle East.

00:13:27.000 And so I think that has made a lot of people that believe in supporting Israel at all costs uncomfortable.

00:13:36.000 I think this is actually good.

00:13:38.000 I think that we need to have this spirited discussion and debate and come to an agreement or work it out on what our reaction should be and how we should feel.

00:13:53.000 There needs to be some disagreement among teammates so that we all reach a higher level of understanding and we're making rational, logical decisions rather than emotional decisions.

00:14:08.000 Too many emotional decisions and buttons have been pushed that have provoked us to do things that don't actually work in America's self-interest.

00:14:17.000 So that's one aspect of it.

00:14:21.000 I think many people think a lot of this is political.

00:14:25.000 And then there are those of us that think all of this is spiritual.

00:14:29.000 This is a battle of good versus evil.

00:14:31.000 And we need to have that argument and discussion as well.

00:14:37.000 So I'm a little bit, I'm still trying to figure out where I actually come down and stand on all of this.

00:14:49.000 I've had discussions on my show about: hey, you know, what does the Bible actually command us to do?

00:14:57.000 Does it command us to support God's chosen people, Israeli Jews, or does it command us to support the nation, the state of Israel?

00:15:09.000 I think that's two different things.

00:15:12.000 I'm not a big proponent of governments.

00:15:15.000 I'm not a big believer in government.

00:15:17.000 And so I don't know how I feel about Benjamin Netanyahu and what the Israeli government is doing.

00:15:25.000 I do know that I'm commanded by the Bible to support Jews and Israeli people.

00:15:32.000 And so that's what I know for sure.

00:15:35.000 I'm looking for clarity on how that, how I should act as it relates to the nation, the state of Israel.

00:15:43.000 Yeah, and it says repeatedly in the scriptures, Paul says to bless the Jews, right?

00:15:48.000 And not to mention the Old Testament in particular, but in the New Testament, it reaffirms that commitment to both the people and the nation of Israel.

00:15:58.000 Does that also mean that you must also, you know, agree with everything that the government of Israel is doing?

00:16:03.000 No, not necessarily.

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00:17:23.000 So Jason, let me ask you a question.

00:17:25.000 There's a debate also happening on the right where there's these lunatics at Harvard that come out and they have this statement in favor of Palestine, Hamas, or whatever.

00:17:33.000 Should we blacklist those people?

00:17:35.000 This is a debate that's happening on the right. 1.00

00:17:37.000 Principally from a biblical worldview, should we put a 20-year-old lunatic that says something stupid and evil and vile and put them on a list, basically a you shall never be forgiven list. 1.00

00:17:49.000 How should we think about this, Jason? 0.99

00:17:51.000 Well, certainly not a you shall never be forgiven list.

00:17:56.000 No, we should not.

00:17:58.000 Now, if someone wants to put out a list that says, hey, be very leery of this person, if you're thinking about bringing them into your corporate or business setting, they may be a sleeper cell.

00:18:12.000 But what I've said, and I've watched the debate between Candace Owens and Megan Kelly, two people that I think are great and awesome and do a good job as leaders on our side of the movement. 0.94

00:18:25.000 But I'm not for canceling anybody because there were so many stupid things I thought when I was in college. 0.95

00:18:35.000 I mean, so many. 0.89

00:18:37.000 And there were so many things I was involved in in terms of I had a subscription to Louis Farrakhan's newspaper, The Final Call.

00:18:47.000 I went to Savior's Day events in Chicago in support of Lewis Farrakhan.

00:18:53.000 I used to get cassette tapes.

00:18:56.000 You're younger than me, Charlie.

00:18:58.000 I don't know if you've ever listened to a cassette tape, but in the 80s, that's what we listened to.

00:19:02.000 I've heard about it.

00:19:04.000 Very similar to how I heard about the Roman Aqueducts.

00:19:06.000 I've heard about cassette tapes.

00:19:09.000 Yeah, so his speeches.

00:19:11.000 And so that was part of my journey.

00:19:14.000 Now, I was always a Christian, but that was something I dabbled in and found interesting.

00:19:20.000 And now, if you look at me, and this has been for the last 20, 25 years, and I've really honed into it here in the last five years, but the number one thing I'm against is racial idolatry. 0.79

00:19:34.000 And the nation of Islam is basically founded on racial idolatry. 0.97

00:19:38.000 And I used to consume a lot of that content.

00:19:42.000 And people thought of me as someone who had a great affinity and respect for Louis Farrakhan.

00:19:49.000 Now, virtually everything that I stand for and promote directly contradicts the nation of Islam. 1.00

00:19:57.000 Really, the only thing I ever liked about the nation of Islam is that it called on black men to take responsibility for their families and that community. 0.98

00:20:05.000 That's right.

00:20:06.000 That was my attraction.

00:20:08.000 But so I just think young people need an opportunity to mature and grow and evolve.

00:20:14.000 I will say what is different, and I thought Candace did a great job of pointing this out, is that these academic institutions, they're all brainwashing young people to believe these things.

00:20:30.000 And so how can you blame them?

00:20:32.000 Everybody has this dream of going to college and you need to go to college to be successful.

00:20:38.000 And then you go off to these institutions and all the messaging, all the professors, your tests, your exams, your projects are all based around supporting their far left worldview.

00:20:53.000 And so should we be surprised that kids spend four or five years on these college campuses and then support every radical leftist movement possible?

00:21:04.000 We support these schools.

00:21:06.000 We send our kids to these schools knowing what they're doing.

00:21:10.000 And so I'm just forgiving these kids some grace.

00:21:15.000 And again, should we be leery of them?

00:21:17.000 Absolutely.

00:21:19.000 Should we cancel them?

00:21:21.000 No.

00:21:22.000 I have a provocative question here, Jason.

00:21:24.000 I want you to dive into this because I think you said something really interesting that Nation of Islam, obviously, I'm a Christian, so I have a different worldview.

00:21:31.000 But something that they did talk about, they were actually largely pro-life.

00:21:35.000 They were against all the gay agenda stuff.

00:21:37.000 They did believe in a masculine type of figure.

00:21:41.000 Do you think that Black America would have benefited more if they would have embraced more of a Nation of Islam value system, obviously, or a kind of secular trans value?

00:21:53.000 It's a provocative question, right?

00:21:54.000 Because you look at the damage.

00:21:56.000 I mean, obviously that's what we do here is provocative questions.

00:21:58.000 You look at the damage of what kind of secular black feminism have done to the urban black culture, right? 1.00

00:22:05.000 75% of black babies are not raised with a present father figure around, right? 0.92

00:22:10.000 Half of black babies don't even know who their father is in certain cities. 0.74

00:22:14.000 That's insane, right? 0.98

00:22:15.000 So the damage is illiteracy, gang violence, criminality, right?

00:22:20.000 All this sort of stuff.

00:22:22.000 If Black America would have embraced more of the value system of Malcolm X, would that have been better? 0.98

00:22:27.000 Or would that have just been another extreme?

00:22:29.000 What do you think, Jason?

00:22:31.000 You've asked it a little differently at the end than you did at the beginning.

00:22:35.000 Well, then you can answer however you want because I'm just riffing.

00:22:40.000 Was Malcolm X's vision better than Martin Luther King's vision?

00:22:45.000 I think there's an argument that that is accurate, that taking responsibility for yourself, not looking at the government as your solution.

00:22:55.000 I think all of those things have great value as it relates to Malcolm X. Your original question kind of more involved the nation of Islam.

00:23:05.000 And so, and where that takes me is about eternal salvation.

00:23:11.000 And you're not, you know, the nation of Islam, there's quite a bit of fraudulence. 1.00

00:23:16.000 No, and I'm a strong Christian.

00:23:18.000 I'm just talking about value system and way of you.

00:23:20.000 Yep.

00:23:21.000 And so, yes.

00:23:23.000 And I'll give you a real life example from my own life.

00:23:28.000 I had a cousin that I grew up with, like a sister.

00:23:31.000 She was involved.

00:23:32.000 She got involved in prostitution. 0.85

00:23:34.000 She got involved in drug sales. 1.00

00:23:36.000 She got involved in every negative activity you could think of, drug use, the whole nine.

00:23:43.000 And joining the Nation of Islam completely remade her and made her a far better person and a more responsible person and just a better person overall.

00:23:57.000 And I can remember arguing with people in my family who were hardcore Christians and totally uncomfortable with her being part of the nation of Islam. 1.00

00:24:08.000 And I was like, well, when she was a Christian, look at what she was involved in and look at what she's involved in now.

00:24:17.000 And so do I think those values, if you embrace them, the self-responsibility, obedience to biblical values, obedience or submission to the patriarchy, I think all of those things have great value.

00:24:36.000 And if you come through those values on the other side of that, I think, particularly if you're on a search for truth, you're going to return to Christianity, but now with a more firm belief in your values and a stronger commitment to commit to those values and not be willy-nilly about those values.

00:24:57.000 And so I can listen to an argument that the Malcolm X way would have served Black people better than this political Christian mashup that we got from Martin Luther King. 0.87

00:25:11.000 And that's not to denigrate Martin Luther King, but it is the reality that he made Christianity for Black people highly, highly political.

00:25:22.000 And we basically throw out our biblical values to serve politics.

00:25:28.000 And that's a message.

00:25:29.000 You know, two things can be simultaneously true.

00:25:32.000 The most popular sentence that Martin Luther King said was great.

00:25:36.000 It was a beautiful thing.

00:25:38.000 It was basically a coupling off of neither slave nor Gentile or Jew. 0.92

00:25:43.000 We are all one in Christ Jesus.

00:25:44.000 I want people to be judged by their character, not by their skin color.

00:25:47.000 But there's also a lot of Martin Luther King's stuff was not so good.

00:25:50.000 Like not everything he said was necessarily worthy of idolatry or worship.

00:25:57.000 I mean, Martin Luther King, who has kind of become a secular saint, is the closest thing we have.

00:26:03.000 I mean, they renamed the whole county of Seattle King County.

00:26:08.000 I mean, and so it's a provocative thing to say, but it's necessary.

00:26:11.000 How many streets, how many things?

00:26:13.000 And I'm not even saying he's a bad person, but is it worthy of sanctification is the best word I could use for that.

00:26:20.000 So, Jason, let me just zero in on this, though.

00:26:23.000 The federal government displaced Malcolm X and infiltrated the nation of Islam.

00:26:29.000 Why do you think that is?

00:26:30.000 Do you think that strong black families and having strong men, is there a conspiracy behind that or is it just a happenstance of J. Edgar Hoover's regime?

00:26:40.000 Well, I mean, Satan is not a conspiracy.

00:26:44.000 And so without attaching J. Edgar Hoover or LBJ to that, but Satan uses people to accomplish his goals as well.

00:26:57.000 And so what we saw in the 60s was all about what's playing out now, the patriarchy, male leadership.

00:27:06.000 And again, let's go to the book of Genesis and the way God, the natural order that he prescribed for us, they're uprooting all of that.

00:27:15.000 And so it's not just about, and we'll go back to the very beginning of this conversation about the racism bundle.

00:27:22.000 It's not just about black people.

00:27:24.000 They're using the racism bundle to accomplish their real goal, to destroy male leadership, to destroy the patriarchy, for us all to submit to this divine feminine energy. 0.87

00:27:38.000 And again, what's playing out is the book of Genesis in real life in terms of women. 0.57

00:27:45.000 stealing control from men and the consequences of that.

00:27:51.000 And that'll make me far, you know, really unpopular.

00:27:55.000 And I'm good with that.

00:27:57.000 But that is what's going on.

00:28:00.000 Oh, that's right.

00:28:01.000 And you want to go a step further.

00:28:03.000 It's the spirit of Jezebel that has infiltrated the entire country.

00:28:06.000 That's not in Genesis.

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00:28:11.000 Yeah, this conversation.

00:28:12.000 Where else are you going to find two people saying, hey, why do we worship Martin Luther King again?

00:28:18.000 Like, yeah, he said some good stuff, but is it worth the kind of untouchability, right?

00:28:23.000 The infallibility of Martin Luther King is perplexing to me.

00:28:28.000 And actually, honestly, it hasn't made black America better.

00:28:31.000 It hasn't.

00:28:31.000 It's actually...

00:28:32.000 It hasn't made America better.

00:28:34.000 No, it hasn't.

00:28:34.000 And I'm not saying he's a bad person.

00:28:36.000 I'm not saying that he didn't say good things.

00:28:38.000 I'm just wondering why he's up there with Moses.

00:28:41.000 I'm really, I'm really confused with that.

00:28:44.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:29:47.000 All right, Jason, I don't know if this is public.

00:29:48.000 Are you able to talk about the football thing that we're talking about?

00:29:50.000 If not, the first thing I texted back is I said, Jason, I'm all into the pass, you know, making sure you do things in alignment.

00:30:01.000 But the one indulgence, I admit it, my audience is ready to destroy me is football.

00:30:06.000 I love it.

00:30:06.000 It's a beautiful sport.

00:30:07.000 It's great.

00:30:08.000 But you're telling me I could still watch football.

00:30:10.000 It's just one day.

00:30:11.000 Build this out.

00:30:12.000 I think this is important.

00:30:13.000 Let's try to get this.

00:30:14.000 Let's kind of get this out here.

00:30:15.000 Well, Charlie, we need to figure out unique ways to make our voices heard.

00:30:22.000 Those of us evangelical Christians, conservatives, because, you know, it's been illegalized for us to make our voices heard.

00:30:32.000 We can't gather and protest.

00:30:34.000 They'll send FBI infiltrators to paint us as white supremacists.

00:30:41.000 They'll plant agitators to make sure that there's some sort of violence at the event.

00:30:46.000 And then they'll run us through their court system, particularly if we went to D.C., they'd run us in front of an all-Democrat jury.

00:30:56.000 And just like they're doing the January 6th people, throw us underneath jails.

00:31:00.000 And so if we can't do that, how do we make our voices known?

00:31:08.000 And I think the only thing that has really worked are these boycotts.

00:31:13.000 did some things with Bud Light and Target that were effective and sent out our message and made them come to heal and like, whoa, okay, if they're going to do this, they've escalated the price for some of this messaging and promotion of the satanic stuff that we like to do.

00:31:32.000 And so it's made them back off.

00:31:35.000 And so the Super Bowl is Christmas for corporate America.

00:31:40.000 It's the biggest platform we have here in America to voice an opinion.

00:31:45.000 They've been using the Super Bowl to promote all these secular values and all these satanic values. 0.73

00:31:51.000 And they've been platforming every, you know, the NFL is gay commercial and all the promotion of the matriarchy and all the promotion of Black Lives Matter. 0.85

00:32:02.000 They're using football to promote their values and their agenda.

00:32:07.000 I think we have an opportunity to use football in the same way by boycotting the Super Bowl.

00:32:14.000 If somehow we had a counter event, and it could be just our shows and online, on the internet, and we somehow affect Super Bowl television ratings by 5 or 10 or 15 percent.

00:32:31.000 That's a way of making people talk about our concerns and being very disruptive and sending a message to corporate America that we've had enough.

00:32:42.000 I went to college on a football scholarship.

00:32:45.000 I built my brand writing and talking about football.

00:32:49.000 Football's important to me.

00:32:51.000 And so I'm not asking anyone to give it up.

00:32:55.000 I haven't been able to give it up.

00:32:56.000 And I think the product is much weaker.

00:32:59.000 But I'm asking those of us in this movement to consider organizing and rallying together.

00:33:08.000 The only reason I'm slightly uncomfortable talking about this, and I'm really not, but I've questioned myself, am I the right person to lead this?

00:33:20.000 Because, you know, I'm really polarizing.

00:33:24.000 No, you're.

00:33:25.000 And you're unifying.

00:33:27.000 I think you're great.

00:33:29.000 Tell all those people to take a hike.

00:33:31.000 Well, I'm so honest.

00:33:34.000 Let me be just transparent here.

00:33:35.000 It's just like, am I the type of person that could get Ben Shapiro and the Daily War Wire to support this idea?

00:33:42.000 I'm not sure.

00:33:43.000 And it's because I'm so outspoken and honest that I think I make Ben uncomfortable.

00:33:49.000 I think I make Jeremy uncomfortable.

00:33:51.000 I think they like me, but I think they're slightly uncomfortable.

00:33:55.000 And, you know, would they be good with partnering with me on something that I'm leading?

00:34:03.000 And so I've kind of had those questions is, can I get all the right people on board with supporting this?

00:34:11.000 Now, I have reached out to yourself.

00:34:13.000 Yep.

00:34:13.000 Well, let's work together.

00:34:15.000 I think we could do some stuff because I think you're right that the Super Bowl is where their margins come.

00:34:20.000 It's a huge deal for them, right?

00:34:22.000 This is where they make bank for the rest of the year.

00:34:24.000 And if their viewership takes a hit, especially from Red America, it makes an impact.

00:34:28.000 Fearless with Jason Whitlock.

00:34:30.000 Check out the podcast.

00:34:31.000 Jason, thanks so much.

00:34:32.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:34:33.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:34:34.000 Everybody, email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:37.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:34:43.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 18, 2023

The BLM-Hamas Connection: The "Racism Bundle" with Jason Whitlock

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