The Charlie Kirk Show - The Charlie Kirk Legacy Award + Was The War Worth It?

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00:01:09.000 All right.

00:01:10.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 I'm Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this show.

00:01:14.000 I'm joined here on set in D.C.

00:01:16.000 No, we did not change the Charlie Kirk set.

00:01:19.000 This happened last time.

00:01:20.000 We did not change the set, but I am joined here by Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of The Federalist, and Lomez, Jonathan Kieperman on my right here in D.C.

00:01:31.000 And then Blake Neff is joining us from Phoenix.

00:01:36.000 Blake, are you there?

00:01:36.000 Here's where the normal studio is.

00:01:38.000 We can prove that it does still exist.

00:01:41.000 It still hasn't been bulldozed, hasn't been changed.

00:01:44.000 Yeah.

00:01:45.000 Chair is there.

00:01:47.000 No panic.

00:01:47.000 No panic in the emails, please.

00:01:49.000 We're still.

00:01:50.000 Well, this was actually funny.

00:01:52.000 You guys would appreciate this.

00:01:53.000 Last time Blake and I, and I think Jack was with us, Pozo, we were here.

00:01:58.000 I mean, our inbox was like inundated with people like, I can't believe you changed the set.

00:02:03.000 We're like, no.

00:02:05.000 We just were visiting.

00:02:06.000 It was during the medal ceremony the last time we were here.

00:02:09.000 But thanks to the Real America's Voice team for making this studio available to us.

00:02:13.000 Gentlemen, there's a lot going on.

00:02:15.000 We're in the middle of a shutdown.

00:02:17.000 We were actually just talking about how our flights got delayed because of the air traffic controller holds or whatever because there's less air traffic controllers in the air.

00:02:26.000 There's a lot going on that is really important.

00:02:29.000 We want to get to it.

00:02:31.000 But there was a moment last night at the Patriot Awards where Erica Kirk received the first ever Charlie Kirk Legacy Award.

00:02:40.000 And I think this is one of the she's just been so courageous.

00:02:45.000 You guys, I don't have to tell you about all the distractions and all of the conspiracies and all of the things that could distract and really derail a lesser human, but she's just really been so strong and so gracious and so, I don't know, steady in the midst of this unbelievable situation that nobody should ever have to be in.

00:03:04.000 I'm curious about your guys' POV just from the outside watching as, you know, she's done her first interview now.

00:03:09.000 She's accepting awards and she's doing a phenomenal job in my opinion.

00:03:13.000 But what is it like for you guys?

00:03:14.000 Yeah, I mean, I can remember going back to September 10th and, you know, experiencing this with my own wife, who I love, I love you, wherever you are.

00:03:24.000 However, I couldn't imagine her just stepping into a role like this and just sort of like seamlessly filling into the enormous shoes of Charlie and not just getting up on stage and just mouthing the right words, but really embodying Charlie's spirit in a way that's almost uncanny, like his ability to bring people together, this sort of just strength of purpose that comes with everything she does.

00:03:51.000 And so it's been a really sort of remarkable thing to observe from the outside.

00:03:55.000 And I think, you know, of course, this is a testament to Charlie as well.

00:03:57.000 He obviously has really good taste, and he picked a winner.

00:04:01.000 Well, Sean, I'm going to get to you and Blake here, but 409 is basically Jesse Waters, who got the first exclusive interview with her saying the same thing, 409.

00:04:12.000 You know, the famous quote behind every great man is a great woman.

00:04:16.000 We're now realizing how great Charlie was by seeing how great Erica is.

00:04:22.000 Erica has been able to take hope from grief.

00:04:26.000 She didn't ask for this mission.

00:04:28.000 She accepted this mission.

00:04:30.000 This was not something she wanted, but this is something she's now duty bound to do.

00:04:36.000 Charlie's mission was to save Western civilization, and that is now her mission.

00:04:41.000 Sean?

00:04:42.000 Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about this since September 10th, and I've always wondered watching people be martyred overseas when you see people, they've got the bags over their head, they're lined up, and you wonder how do they have the strength to go through what they know they're about to go through.

00:05:00.000 And I'm convinced it's grace from the Holy Spirit in the moment that he knows we need it.

00:05:05.000 I watch Erica, and I think to myself, there's no way she does this without the Holy Spirit.

00:05:10.000 She has been given so much grace and so much courage, not to take anything away from her personally, but there's no way any of us could manage that on our own.

00:05:19.000 There's no way any human on their own power could handle that grief and that burden.

00:05:23.000 And to go out there and see her do it, I think it's just absolutely amazing.

00:05:28.000 Let's go ahead and play a clip then from Erica at this event.

00:05:32.000 Let's go ahead and play 407.

00:05:35.000 This whole room feels it.

00:05:36.000 This whole nation feels the spiritual warfare.

00:05:40.000 But Charlie would say that's how you know you're over the mark when you feel it, when the enemy is there.

00:05:48.000 That's how you know you're doing the Lord's work.

00:05:50.000 And that's how you know you're defending truth.

00:05:53.000 And that was his true barometer was when he would feel that spiritual warfare.

00:05:59.000 And I watched him pour every ounce of himself into the students, into raising up the most courageous generation and inspiring so many people to stand firm in faith and to love this country.

00:06:20.000 Yeah, I mean, that really is, you know, when you talk about spiritual warfare, you know, I was talking about Lomez, Jonathan Kieperman.

00:06:29.000 We still haven't settled on how we're going to.

00:06:30.000 It can be either one.

00:06:31.000 Maybe J-Lo?

00:06:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:33.000 Jonathan Lomez.

00:06:34.000 Yeah, you got it.

00:06:36.000 You know, but this feeling of spiritual warfare is really palpable right now.

00:06:40.000 And it's hard to explain.

00:06:42.000 I think a lot of people in our audience feel it.

00:06:44.000 If you just log on to social media for like two seconds, you'll see it.

00:06:50.000 You know, there is a churning happening right now.

00:06:54.000 And it's impossible to know where it's going to settle out.

00:06:58.000 But I think we felt it before Charlie was assassinated.

00:07:01.000 And then as soon as Charlie was assassinated, it's like there was this moment of unity and sort of beauty, really.

00:07:08.000 And I think I think in the last couple of weeks, people have really come to come to see that we are in a time of churning and testing, both as a movement and as a country.

00:07:16.000 Well, I think for me anyway, in Charlie's absence, it was only in the last couple of months that I came to realize just what a sort of central figure of gravity he was holding this whole coalition together.

00:07:30.000 And in his absence, you know, you do see sort of the barbarians at the gate.

00:07:34.000 You see people and forces sort of coming into this coalition and using sort of the vacuum that was created by Charlie's untimely death to fill it with, you know, different kinds of ideas and different sort of self-interested agendas that could derail what was a really strong thing and what still is,

00:07:55.000 but is going to require, I think, everybody to sort of take a cue from Erica and try to embody this unifying spirit that Charlie had.

00:08:06.000 And so I think that's the task before us here.

00:08:08.000 You know, Blake, I think this is a good time to actually throw to you because you've been sounding off.

00:08:11.000 I've been looking at your Twitter, actually.

00:08:14.000 And you have really emerged, in my opinion, and I don't mean to make you embarrassed here, but as a voice of common sense and a strong, forceful voice.

00:08:24.000 I'm super grateful for it, actually.

00:08:25.000 We had to encourage Blake to start tweeting.

00:08:28.000 But force me to say, what's your take on it?

00:08:29.000 You forced me to start tweeting.

00:08:30.000 I want to be on the record for this.

00:08:32.000 Well, I knew how great you would be at it.

00:08:35.000 I mean, honestly, you are a lot of things, Blake, but you have a moral clarity that is profound.

00:08:41.000 So final thoughts to you in this segment.

00:08:44.000 It's just, yeah, it's been a very trying time for a lot of people.

00:08:47.000 It would be trying no matter what happened, but just it really makes you appreciate how many different things can stress you out through a difficult moment because you have the obvious loss of Charlie, and then you have, you know, then you have, you have the good problems.

00:09:06.000 Like, how do you manage the outpouring of support and love?

00:09:09.000 How do you make sure that what happened to him is, you know, you know, the surge of spiritual energy, make sure that's not wasted.

00:09:15.000 Make sure his martyrdom is not, you know, is not just this tragedy with no upside to it.

00:09:22.000 But then, you know, the follow-ons, you know, that you have the vicious people who try to come at whatever the big topic is.

00:09:28.000 You have the kind of oddballs who just invent bizarre things and then get obsessed with them and harass you.

00:09:34.000 And you have to really maintain, we have to work on maintaining your composure through difficult periods.

00:09:39.000 And I think all of us have learned how to do that, but it's a real challenge.

00:09:42.000 And Erica, most of all.

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00:10:49.000 I'm Andrew Colvett, joined by Sean Davis and Lomez, aka Jonathan Kieperman, Passage Press, Passage.press.

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00:11:09.000 Now, so you've got a new show coming out, a podcast with Christopher Rubin.

00:11:13.000 For Christopher Ruffo.

00:11:15.000 And you're talking about this psychodrama on the right.

00:11:17.000 Yeah.

00:11:17.000 And I think this is, I think, like in the long run, this is actually, I think, you know, yes, I said something on Twitter yesterday that what God has unleashed, man cannot stop.

00:11:30.000 And that doesn't matter if it's people that we perceive as conservatives or liberals or whatever.

00:11:35.000 I really believe that what God has unleashed in Charlie's assassination, his martyrdom, that man cannot stop.

00:11:42.000 It will take its course.

00:11:44.000 The gospel will march forward.

00:11:46.000 The truth will march forward.

00:11:47.000 And I think that's what makes what Erica, her steady hand, her grace, and her courage makes it even more poignant.

00:11:54.000 But Sean, you said something that you wake up every morning and you're like, you're like, let's go.

00:11:59.000 Let's go.

00:11:59.000 And Lomez and I were like, sometimes we just look at the internet, we're like, you know, no thanks.

00:12:06.000 So I, but where does that come from in you?

00:12:09.000 And tell us, tell us more.

00:12:10.000 We need it.

00:12:11.000 Yeah, yeah, no, I'm jacked up for the fight, man.

00:12:13.000 And I don't think I've ever felt more energized than in the wake of Charlie being killed because never before has it been so clear what the stakes are.

00:12:13.000 Love it.

00:12:23.000 It's good versus evil, period.

00:12:25.000 And here's the thing: here's the thing that should encourage everyone: we are going to win.

00:12:30.000 And we are going to win because we are behind a God who doesn't lose.

00:12:34.000 So when you know that, when you know that you're on God's side, that his army's going to win, that the debt's been paid, that death has been destroyed forever, why on earth would you not be totally jacked up and encouraged?

00:12:45.000 Like, it's worth remembering what discouragement is.

00:12:48.000 Just think about the word.

00:12:49.000 It's a lack of courage.

00:12:51.000 So being discouraged is actually sinful.

00:12:54.000 Being despondent is sinful.

00:12:55.000 It's okay to be sad.

00:12:57.000 It's okay to mourn.

00:12:58.000 We should never be discouraged because God has defeated everything.

00:13:01.000 Christ has defeated death.

00:13:03.000 What on earth do we have to worry about?

00:13:05.000 All he's asking us to do is go forward and fight the battle that he's already set out for us.

00:13:09.000 It's like, man, pick up your sword, pick up your book, your pen, whatever it is, and like get jacked up and get to it.

00:13:15.000 Well, we do have some good news, and this is for Blake.

00:13:19.000 Pelosi is retiring.

00:13:21.000 She is not going to seek re-election.

00:13:23.000 So, sorry, when you just said evil has been defeated and all this stuff, I just thought it was a good segue.

00:13:30.000 Blake, what do we make of Pelosi finally hanging up her spurs?

00:13:35.000 Or whatever she is.

00:13:36.000 She's a very symbolic figure of a lot of trends in American life, and we should see her off properly.

00:13:42.000 So, you know, first of all, she's leaving office at 85 years old.

00:13:46.000 So she perfectly represents gerontocracy.

00:13:48.000 She's been, let me check how long she's been a representative from California since 1987, which I have bad news is nearly 40 years ago for all of you who are around my age.

00:13:59.000 And she first became Speaker of the House back in 2007, nearly 20 years ago, had two separate stints at it.

00:14:08.000 And beyond that, she represents a lot of things.

00:14:11.000 She represents the total political invincibility of the urban Democrat machine.

00:14:18.000 She represented San Francisco itself, which has become this unlivable, you know, homeless-infested, drug-infested, feces-encrusted disaster, yet can never seemingly really change and still costs a gazillion dollars.

00:14:32.000 It's sort of this disaster piece of a city.

00:14:36.000 And she represents other things.

00:14:38.000 You know, a lot of people have been pointing towards her stock returns that she, I think she beat the market by about 600% in her investments over the years.

00:14:46.000 And it's sort of like no one ever really stops that from happening.

00:14:51.000 No one seems to be interested in banning that.

00:14:54.000 It's almost like a giant shrug from the American governing class that she's able to do that. 0.80

00:15:00.000 And also just what she represents more broadly for the Democrats.

00:15:04.000 She was born.

00:15:05.000 She's kind of this like this fossil from the 60s.

00:15:09.000 We literally have photos of her hanging out with John F. Kennedy.

00:15:13.000 And she oversaw this total transformation of America that, as we're going to see when we show that British veteran up ahead, like this transformation of the West, this transformation of America that almost everyone recognizes is in a negative direction, where they had this incredibly world historically successful country and society, and they sort of gave it away for stock market returns and cheap trinkets and ethnic food. 0.85

00:15:38.000 Lomez.

00:15:39.000 You know, can I say something controversial here?

00:15:41.000 I would hope Nancy Pelosi.

00:15:43.000 While I agree with everything Blake says, I also have a kind of grudging respect for her because she also represents a kind of administrative vigor and competence that I think is at least something that we could try to emulate.

00:15:59.000 I mean, she kept together this like coalition of the fringes for years.

00:16:03.000 And, you know, I think what comes next for the Democrats is far worse than anything Nancy Pelosi did.

00:16:08.000 It's complete chaos.

00:16:09.000 I say the same thing about Gavin Newsom, which people get so mad at me.

00:16:13.000 I'm like, I'm like, listen, as somebody who's lived in California, Gavin Newsom is like a puppy dog compared to what's waiting in the wings.

00:16:21.000 So be careful what you wish for.

00:16:23.000 So there was a clip here that is going viral.

00:16:27.000 And Blake is, I know, excited to chime in on this as well back in Phoenix.

00:16:32.000 So there's a hundred-year-old military veteran from the UK.

00:16:37.000 And this clip was posted eight hours ago on Good Morning Britain.

00:16:42.000 And basically, you know, we talked about Nancy Pelosi.

00:16:46.000 She was born 15 years after this gentleman was born.

00:16:51.000 So the crossover has been, you know, extreme.

00:16:54.000 And we talk about how we have squandered so much of what we, the war bounty after World War II, defeated fascism, and then only to give it away, as Blake said, for, you know, cheap trinkets and ethnic food and, you know, a GDP and a skyrocketing deficit and debt.

00:17:14.000 And so, and this is a, this is a, a theme that we've seen across the West as we've become more unchurched, as we've become more multicultural, as we've seen our own culture degrade and corrode and the cultural cohesion really strained to the max. 0.68

00:17:28.000 And so this powerful clip from this, this 100-year-old gentleman, you could tell he's not saying this in a mean spirit.

00:17:33.000 And I think that's what makes it so striking.

00:17:36.000 So let's go ahead and play it.

00:17:38.000 433.

00:17:39.000 A country of today.

00:17:41.000 No, I'm sorry.

00:17:43.000 The sacrifice wasn't worth the result that it is now.

00:17:48.000 What we fought for, what we fought for, was our freedom.

00:17:52.000 We fought that even now is darn sight worse than what it was when I fought for it.

00:18:00.000 Oh, Alec, I'm sorry you feel like that because I want you to know that all the generations that have come since, including me and my children, are so grateful for your bravery and all that for service personnel.

00:18:14.000 And it's our job now, isn't it, to make it the country that you fought for.

00:18:20.000 You absolutely fought.

00:18:22.000 And we will do.

00:18:23.000 I'm so wonderful to know there are people like you that spread the word around.

00:18:29.000 We will become a generation.

00:18:33.000 The sacrifice wasn't worth what we've gotten from it.

00:18:38.000 It's really glue.

00:18:39.000 It's really powerful.

00:18:40.000 There's another book.

00:18:41.000 I don't remember the name off the top of my head.

00:18:43.000 Lomez might remember.

00:18:44.000 Tell me if you do.

00:18:45.000 There was a book, it probably came out like 30 years ago or so when there were more veterans still alive in Britain.

00:18:51.000 And it was a similar thing, asking them how they felt about British society.

00:18:57.000 And it came out over and over again that they said it just felt like the sacrifices weren't worth it because when they thought of the country they had fought for, they fought for, you know, they thought they were fighting for Christian civilization, for the English people, for Britain as this free society that gave us all those constitutional liberties we care about as a British-descended country.

00:19:20.000 Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the nature of parliament and all of that.

00:19:25.000 And then they just saw it get thrown away.

00:19:27.000 They saw their country, you know, get rid of free enterprise and become one of the sort of most socialist, most over-regulated, and as a result, most inefficient and like low-growth countries.

00:19:38.000 They massively roll back freedom of speech.

00:19:41.000 You're now far more likely to get arrested for saying something offensive on the internet in Britain than you are in the People's Republic of China. 0.69

00:19:49.000 You're far more likely to get in trouble for, you know, some perceived like racist offense or homophobic offense there than you are in a bunch of supposedly more authoritarian countries.

00:20:02.000 And on top of that, they see their leaders just openly saying British people deserve to be replaced.

00:20:08.000 That there's no such thing as an English people or a British people.

00:20:12.000 And they don't have a right to have a country that is presumptively their own.

00:20:17.000 And it's so depressing, frankly, that this guy had to live long enough to see it become as bad as it did.

00:20:24.000 I think he's realizing, you know, he would have been luckier if he died a lot younger than he's living to be now.

00:20:31.000 I think also for me, this puts into perspective what we're doing here, okay?

00:20:35.000 Like we've been talking about a lot of this like petty squabbling going on on the right.

00:20:39.000 And you hear someone like this and you got to take a step back and like realize these are like civilizational stakes here.

00:20:46.000 And we've got to remember who the enemy is and where the real forces of sort of decay and degradation are coming from.

00:20:52.000 And I hope like the lesson for me would be, okay, we owe it to people like this, the memories of people like this, to preserve this civilization they fought for.

00:21:04.000 And we got to refocus on what's really important here.

00:21:07.000 You know, we have like a situation in Minnesota with like this, you know, negotiating kind of like Somali and ethnic squabbling, okay, over who's going to be the mayor of Minneapolis.

00:21:19.000 And you have, you know, people trying to castrate children and stuff.

00:21:23.000 And you go, okay, that's where the fight is.

00:21:25.000 Can we refocus on the things that matters and get away from a lot of these trivialities that frankly are just distracting us from that?

00:21:33.000 I want to flag that in case people don't know what you're talking about because it's so great.

00:21:36.000 It's very quick.

00:21:37.000 You mentioned the Somali ethnic squabbles.

00:21:39.000 So this is getting reported on X that allegedly a significant number of Somalis in Minneapolis did not vote for Omar Fateh, the Somali candidate for mayor, because he is apparently part of the Darud clan rather than the Hawiye clan in Somali culture.

00:21:56.000 And they are hostile to each other.

00:21:58.000 They don't like each other.

00:21:59.000 Allegedly, Ilhan Omar is also a member of the Darud clan.

00:22:05.000 So the Hawiyez also don't like Ilhan Omar over that. 0.94

00:22:08.000 You know, the remark I said was, you know, imagine Ben Franklin saying, you know, a nation of never-ending ethnic squabbles from the third world, if you can keep it. 0.91

00:22:19.000 Well, yeah, it's true.

00:22:20.000 When you import the third world, you import every third world tribal, clan-based war, grievousness. 1.00

00:22:30.000 You're bringing in all their battles and all their ancient hatred, and they're fighting it out in your streets.

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00:23:54.000 You know, it is sort of like an expression that Blake uses sometimes.

00:23:57.000 We talk about advanced civilizational tech, right?

00:24:00.000 Like monogamy is one of these really powerful civilizational technologies that tends to make men more productive.

00:24:08.000 We focus on building our families, our businesses, our home life, as opposed to, you know, warring against this warlord that's got 30 wives and we're sort of aimless and wifeless and childless.

00:24:21.000 And so it tends to be this really amazing thing for society.

00:24:24.000 But there's another thing about Western civilization that is so profoundly amazing, and that is that we've managed in many ways, not perfectly, obviously.

00:24:32.000 The Scots and the Picts and the Welsh and the English would tell you that it's not perfect, certainly.

00:24:39.000 But this binding together under constitutional systems and republics and putting sectarianism and clannish behavior behind us.

00:24:49.000 And really, what's interesting, and it has to be a bigger question, because I think you have to know the root cause if you're going to solve it, is why in the West, specifically the English-speaking West, did we decide that it was not okay to be proud of ourselves, to be proud of our national identity?

00:25:06.000 Where did that happen?

00:25:07.000 When did it happen?

00:25:09.000 And what is the root cause?

00:25:11.000 Because in some ways, you could define MAGA as a resurgence of national pride and people that have at least identified that they want to be proud of their own nation.

00:25:21.000 I think we have lost the courage, we have lost the confidence to simply say straightforwardly, our way of life is better than other ways of life.

00:25:30.000 And when people come here, they need to assimilate into our better way of life.

00:25:35.000 It's not just that it's different.

00:25:37.000 The way of life we have here in the West is better.

00:25:40.000 And it's okay to say that.

00:25:41.000 We need to have the confidence to be able to say that.

00:25:43.000 And I think, you know, we've lost the ability to just explicitly make that claim.

00:25:49.000 And you don't even really have to make the claim.

00:25:51.000 You just have to point out the contrast.

00:25:53.000 American culture is superior to Somali culture. 1.00

00:25:56.000 Do you know how we know?

00:25:57.000 Because look at there and look at here.

00:25:59.000 It's better here.

00:26:00.000 It's why everyone's coming here.

00:26:02.000 They're coming here because they know it's better.

00:26:04.000 Well, I have one note on that.

00:26:05.000 And Blake, I'd love for you to react to this clip.

00:26:08.000 This is an Islamic Imam, and he's explaining how they plan on taking over America. 1.00

00:26:13.000 Play cut 279.

00:26:15.000 Let's work towards that. 0.98

00:26:16.000 Let's work towards a Muslim mayor.

00:26:19.000 Next election that comes in, nominate people for the School Board of Education.

00:26:23.000 Next election that comes here, nominate people for the local township.

00:26:27.000 Begin the demographics change.

00:26:30.000 People converted.

00:26:31.000 There's a big, huge conversion going on in this country.

00:26:33.000 Where are the converts?

00:26:35.000 They just convert and they're gone in the wilderness. 0.86

00:26:38.000 The other thing, children.

00:26:40.000 Muslims have the highest population.

00:26:41.000 Average, they did a Pew Foundation did a research study, Pew Foundation, and they said that Muslim household average is 3.4 child per family.

00:26:52.000 The white American has one child per family. 0.53

00:26:54.000 We're already beating the march because these are wars.

00:26:58.000 These are not just babies being born in hospitals.

00:27:00.000 These are wars.

00:27:01.000 That's the way a politician looks at it.

00:27:03.000 Yeah, so Blake, I mean, what Sean said is they come here because it's better.

00:27:07.000 I think that's true of past waves.

00:27:09.000 No, they come here because it is better, but that does not mean like they aspire to the culture that made it better.

00:27:17.000 They also can just say, you are a giant pile of money. 0.99

00:27:21.000 You are a dumb rube that I can take advantage of. 1.00

00:27:24.000 And like we've seen that, for example, with the Somali community. 1.00

00:27:27.000 Like they remain quite clannish in the Minneapolis area. 0.99

00:27:30.000 Not just their literal clans, but like they're sort of closed off.

00:27:34.000 Remember the justification for Ilhan Omar?

00:27:36.000 The defense of her marrying her brother included the fact that when she first got married, she did not get married under any governmental system.

00:27:42.000 It was only within their internal religious system.

00:27:46.000 And they're well known for having pretty elaborate operations to skim government money in sinister ways because they don't a lot of them just don't really see it as any sort of moral offense.

00:27:58.000 Like, oh, this is a giant spigot of government money and we can take it and use it for our own ends.

00:28:03.000 It's like a way of making a living like any other.

00:28:06.000 And yeah, there's this aspirational thing.

00:28:08.000 They are a growing power.

00:28:10.000 They can say, oh, we're going into this society and we are triumphant.

00:28:14.000 We are on the march.

00:28:15.000 We are growing.

00:28:16.000 We can change it towards what we want it to be.

00:28:19.000 And you see that assertiveness now in Britain.

00:28:22.000 That's what that veteran is basically reacting to.

00:28:24.000 Now you have Muslim members of parliament and they brag about, you know, I'm running for Gaza. 0.99

00:28:30.000 I'm running to destroy the state of Israel. 0.80

00:28:33.000 I'm running to ban Israeli soccer teams from playing their fans coming to the UK. 0.96

00:28:38.000 That was the thing they did.

00:28:39.000 And they, of course, brag, oh, we're Islamicizing the UK.

00:28:44.000 We feel tremendous pain when we see, for example, a church converted into a mosque, which is happening in the U.S. 0.99

00:28:50.000 It's happening in the UK.

00:28:52.000 And they celebrate that.

00:28:54.000 They have every reason to feel like they are winning and taking over.

00:28:57.000 Why would they assimilate to a sinking ship?

00:29:00.000 Yeah, well, there's 50 Muslim majority, 50 plus Muslim-majority countries in the world.

00:29:05.000 And it's a simple question.

00:29:07.000 And if you can't answer it in any sort of satisfactory way, then we've got a much bigger problem than most people are aware of or willing to admit.

00:29:17.000 Why don't they move there?

00:29:19.000 No, they're coming to the West, and there is a reason for that. 0.90

00:29:22.000 Okay, so I have to do the Rufo and Lomez bumper here. 0.99

00:29:26.000 Oh, boy.

00:29:27.000 And I just, I told you in the break, I just feel bad for Rufo, that he's just, you know.

00:29:32.000 Yeah.

00:29:33.000 He's the bit player in this world you're creating.

00:29:36.000 That's okay.

00:29:37.000 You know, he'll recover.

00:29:38.000 We love Rufo.

00:29:38.000 He'll recover.

00:29:39.000 It's all right.

00:29:41.000 I'm bustage chops, I think, is one of these expressions that would work.

00:29:45.000 Let's go ahead and play it.

00:29:46.000 432, Rufo and Lomez.

00:29:48.000 I think quietly, rational people are hoping that Trump solves their problem for them.

00:29:54.000 Yes.

00:29:55.000 There's no conservative equivalent to Jimmy Kimmel on network television.

00:30:00.000 And something needs to be done about that.

00:30:02.000 But I think the problem is related to trans ideology.

00:30:05.000 And it is involved in online communities, whether it's popular or not.

00:30:10.000 That is a common denominator that I think has some causation.

00:30:13.000 Is America a force for good or a force for bad?

00:30:16.000 Is the West a civilizational force for good or a force for bad?

00:30:21.000 Do you believe in Bigfoot Christopher Rufo?

00:30:26.000 That's great.

00:30:27.000 No, listen, I'm really excited about the show.

00:30:31.000 I'm going to be a subscriber, absolutely.

00:30:33.000 Two great minds talking about the most important ideas.

00:30:36.000 So, Lomez, Jonathan Kieperman, where do where have you guys released an episode yet of Rufo and Lomez?

00:30:42.000 Yeah, yeah, no, I think the first one's being released today.

00:30:45.000 So we've gone into the last week's news, all of, again, the psychodrama that's been going on.

00:30:50.000 try to unpack some of that, talk about some of the elections, talk about the death of Dick Cheney and kind of what that means and the trajectory of the right over the last 20 years.

00:31:00.000 It will be a weekly show, actually twice weekly, once Friday, once Tuesday, subscribe at YouTube, anywhere you get your podcasts, Blaze TV, Rufo and Lomez.

00:31:09.000 Rufo and Lomez.

00:31:11.000 I'm genuinely excited about that clip.

00:31:14.000 I want to get to this Sidney Sweeney viral clip just because we've got some we've got four dudes.

00:31:21.000 Makes sense, right?

00:31:22.000 Let's go ahead and play.

00:31:23.000 By the way, this is she gets asked by, I guess it's GQ's Catherine Stoffel.

00:31:28.000 And Blake, you're going to be the first one I throw to after this, so get ready.

00:31:32.000 But she's asked, you know, don't you think it was a bad idea for you to talk about genetic superiority because you're white?

00:31:38.000 426.

00:31:39.000 I mean, the president tweeted about the jeans ad or truth social about the jeans ad.

00:31:45.000 And that just seems to me like a very crazy moment for anyone.

00:31:53.000 And I wondered what that was like.

00:31:58.000 It was surreal.

00:31:59.000 It was surreal.

00:32:00.000 But the risk is that, you know, there's a chance that somebody will get some idea about what you think about certain issues.

00:32:09.000 Like, do you worry about that?

00:32:10.000 No.

00:32:11.000 No.

00:32:12.000 The criticism of the content.

00:32:14.000 White people shouldn't joke about genetic superiority.

00:32:18.000 I just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about that specifically.

00:32:22.000 I think that when I have an issue that I want to speak about, people will hear. 0.98

00:32:30.000 Man, I saw a line on it that was so great where there's so many layers of like feminine social engagement going on there.

00:32:38.000 The interviewer, I want to give you an opportunity.

00:32:42.000 No, like I am kind of ordering you to say this, but I'm giving you an opportunity.

00:32:47.000 I'm not understanding why you're not taking the opportunity.

00:32:50.000 And then Sidney just like effortlessly shooting it down.

00:32:54.000 I am not equal to this level of social adroitness.

00:32:58.000 I would die horribly in that situation, of course.

00:33:01.000 But Charlie, you know, Charlie obviously, he was not like, he would weigh in on this.

00:33:06.000 It was pretty funny.

00:33:07.000 He liked to say like, yeah, yeah, she does have great genes, doesn't she?

00:33:10.000 So he would sometimes find this very amusing in a detached sort of way.

00:33:14.000 So I think he'd be chuckling at how this is playing out now.

00:33:17.000 And he'd be proud because it does reflect, even with the difficulties we had this week, there really is a positive vibe shift in America.

00:33:25.000 Even though we had a bad midterm, it was partly because Democrats had to look around and say, we've got to give a heave-ho to a lot of this really bad cultural stuff.

00:33:34.000 And we are in such a better cultural place than we were a year ago, than we were five years ago.

00:33:41.000 And, you know, that's why not even a year ago, this loser from The Guardian tried to dox our friend Jonathan.

00:33:48.000 Instead, revealed that he is a beautiful man.

00:33:51.000 And that man is going to now start his own show.

00:33:53.000 And everyone's excited to watch it.

00:33:55.000 It's a resentment against the beautiful and good.

00:33:57.000 We must protect Sidney Sweeney at all costs.

00:34:00.000 Our beautiful Helen.

00:34:01.000 I mean, the funny thing about this to me is that the underlying controversy here is that Sidney Sweeney is like implicitly acknowledging the existence of genetics.

00:34:12.000 Okay, like the left wants to sort of present this idea that it's somehow like anathema, immoral.

00:34:20.000 You know, it's a betrayal of our good senses.

00:34:23.000 White people aren't allowed to have that. 0.99

00:34:24.000 Yeah, you don't have genetics. 0.98

00:34:26.000 We don't believe in genetics or anything.

00:34:27.000 It kind of goes back to our other conversation about where the West decided it couldn't believe in itself.

00:34:32.000 Like white people aren't allowed to do basic things anymore. 0.61

00:34:35.000 We're talking about beautiful men here.

00:34:36.000 John Davis.

00:34:38.000 So glad I could be here for this discussion.

00:34:39.000 You get the final word, my friend.

00:34:41.000 You can't buy these genes off the market.

00:34:43.000 Speaking of good genes.

00:34:44.000 These come from God.

00:34:46.000 What I love about that clip is that in just one screenshot, you don't even need to listen to it or watch it.

00:34:52.000 One little snapshot of that, and you see the total destruction of the HR Karen HOA energy, the uptalking, the passive aggressiveness, the nitpicking.

00:35:07.000 And then Sydney Sweeney's like, nah, I'm good.

00:35:09.000 You can actually just not denounce people on command.

00:35:12.000 It's true.

00:35:13.000 You can reject the premise.

00:35:14.000 You can just say no.

00:35:16.000 I agree with Blake.

00:35:16.000 There are so many layers to that.

00:35:19.000 So like, I think you're a terrible person and a lot of people do.

00:35:24.000 But like, do you think that you do?

00:35:27.000 And it's like, there is so much going on there.

00:35:30.000 And it was like, Blake's other point is like he just so incisively cut through it and just rejected the premise and said, I'm not playing your games, lady.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 07, 2025

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