The Charlie Kirk Show - The Charlie Kirk Show Takes on UC-Berkeley — Here’s What We Saw

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, this is producer Andrew Colvet, otherwise known as Mr. Iron Man at the Charlie Kirk Show, filling in for Charlie one last time.

00:00:11.000 And guess what?

00:00:11.000 We're talking about Florida and redistricting, how one brave governor might just save all the rest of the conservative governors in the redistricting battle with the Eric Holders and the Barack Obamas of the world.

00:00:24.000 Very important news there.

00:00:26.000 Also, we welcome Joe Bob to the show.

00:00:29.000 Joe Bob is a turning point USA contributor.

00:00:31.000 He was with us at UC Berkeley.

00:00:33.000 We have a great discussion about what we saw, what we learned, what we're picking up from this new generation, what we're picking up from their cynicism to their optimism, what's driving them, what's behind the things they say and do.

00:00:46.000 It's really insightful.

00:00:47.000 Joe Bob's one of the guys that has his finger to the pulse of the next generation.

00:00:51.000 You're not going to want to miss it.

00:00:52.000 This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

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00:00:55.000 Here we go.

00:00:56.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:58.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:01:00.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:03.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:06.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:07.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:08.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:17.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:26.000 That's why we are here.

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00:01:40.000 He did it again on another thing.

00:01:41.000 So if you have paid any attention to this show, you know that we have been bemoaning the RNC's lackluster attempts at staving off this onslaught, which is exactly what it is, led by guys like Eric Holder that have been plotting this for a long time, Barack Obama at taking over the redistricting battle that they feel like they've been losing to Republicans for decades.

00:02:08.000 So guys like Eric Holder spent a lot of time, raised a lot of money to say that he was going to push back at the Republican efforts at redistricting.

00:02:18.000 And guess what?

00:02:19.000 They were largely successful.

00:02:21.000 Massive losses in New York, massive losses in California, anywhere where the Democrat stronghold was the machine where they were running the political discourse from top to bottom, where they controlled the House, the Senate, whatever, the Assembly, the governor's mansion.

00:02:37.000 They took aim and they held nothing back.

00:02:40.000 Now, what did we see in GOP states, GOP-controlled states?

00:02:45.000 We saw feckless leadership.

00:02:47.000 We saw a lack of resolve.

00:02:49.000 We saw himming and hawing.

00:02:51.000 And guess what?

00:02:52.000 We got worked.

00:02:52.000 We got totally owned.

00:02:54.000 We've been trying to sound the alarm on this show.

00:02:57.000 The redistricting war was getting gruesome for conservatives.

00:03:01.000 This, as we're seeing massive polling swings in our favor, this, as polls like Quinnipiak has Joe Biden's approval rating at 33.

00:03:10.000 CNBC has it 39.

00:03:14.000 We're seeing massive gains in the Hispanic community, something I would love to talk about.

00:03:17.000 It was trending last night on the Twitterverse just because I was investigating some Elon Musk stuff.

00:03:23.000 I promise you, I would try not to frequent the site.

00:03:26.000 All of this is happening, and yet the GOP is standing by doing nothing.

00:03:30.000 So what does DeSantis do?

00:03:32.000 Now, to put things in perspective, the redistricting battle in Florida before any of this happened, right?

00:03:39.000 So we do this every 10 years based on the census.

00:03:42.000 It was 1611.

00:03:45.000 1611.

00:03:46.000 So it was at 16 more Republican-edged seats.

00:03:49.000 And what we mean by that is that it's R plus something, right? 0.97

00:03:52.000 If a Republican runs against Democrats and it falls along party lines, the Republican would win in theory, right?

00:03:57.000 Now, that doesn't mean you don't need to run a great race.

00:04:00.000 That doesn't mean any of that stuff, right?

00:04:01.000 Okay, this is 101 stuff.

00:04:02.000 So if this is too simple for some of you, I apologize.

00:04:06.000 So 16-11, then we get rumor that DeSantis is going with an 1810 map.

00:04:13.000 So they gained a C, just because of population, people moving to Florida.

00:04:18.000 1810.

00:04:19.000 And then we were, you know, frankly, it was the only state where we were outperforming what we thought we were going to do.

00:04:24.000 Every other state in the GOP was abysmal, abysmal.

00:04:29.000 We were not, as we often do on the conservative side, we were not responding in kind.

00:04:34.000 They were playing for keeps.

00:04:36.000 They were playing hardball.

00:04:38.000 We were getting walked over.

00:04:39.000 We were being nice.

00:04:40.000 We were being nice.

00:04:41.000 We were being the principled party, trying to follow all the rules and the decorum and the way things have always been.

00:04:47.000 Meanwhile, we're getting slaughtered.

00:04:48.000 I don't know about you.

00:04:49.000 I like to win.

00:04:50.000 So what does DeSantis do?

00:04:52.000 This is from the Daily Wire.

00:04:53.000 DeSantis makes major move to bring big GOP gains, quote, entirely wiping out all Democrat gains nationally.

00:05:01.000 So he didn't just go from 16-11 to 18-10.

00:05:06.000 No, no, no.

00:05:07.000 Didn't stop there.

00:05:08.000 He went 20 to 8.

00:05:11.000 Now, let me just say this again.

00:05:14.000 20 Republican-leaning districts to eight Democrat-leaning districts.

00:05:19.000 Now, for those of you who are sitting here thinking, how can this be?

00:05:23.000 This seems potentially unfair.

00:05:27.000 Listen, this will get challenged in the courts, okay?

00:05:32.000 But at the end of the day, DeSantis has been back channeling inside Florida.

00:05:38.000 He's been working with the state representatives.

00:05:42.000 They have approved this.

00:05:43.000 So this will be challenged in court, and it's possible he might lose some of what he's been fighting for.

00:05:49.000 But what we can say is that DeSantis took the moment, shot for the fences, swung for the fences, shot for the moon, and took a massive step in the right direction.

00:06:02.000 And now, why is this important?

00:06:05.000 We're looking to 2022, the midterms in November, and we're saying, yes, this could be an extinction-level event for the Democrat Party.

00:06:12.000 Yes, this could be the moment where we have a great awakening across the political landscape of this country and the spiritual landscape and the psychological landscape of this country.

00:06:22.000 And we see what these woke politics are doing to our nation.

00:06:25.000 But then what happens?

00:06:26.000 The Democrats in these deep blue states take advantage of the redistricting process, hold nothing back, and then take back those hard-fought gains, not to mention the election integrity issues that still plague so many parts of our country, so many states.

00:06:44.000 Not to mention the way that they're going to still try and rig the mail-in voting, not to mention the fact that so many of these states which went used the judiciary, the Supreme Court, like Pennsylvania, going around and changing the election laws, not to mention that they can still do that heading into November.

00:07:05.000 We ain't seen nothing yet, folks.

00:07:06.000 The fight is not over.

00:07:08.000 So you may think that there's this bloodbath on the horizon for the Democrat Party, and yet they are working the way they do elections.

00:07:17.000 They always work the mechanisms, the modes of distribution, the way that we vote, while we're working messaging, while we're working appealing to people's sense of common sense, where we're appealing to pragmatism, policies.

00:07:32.000 No, the messaging is important.

00:07:34.000 Yes, but the way we do these elections, the way we draw the maps is critically important.

00:07:38.000 And in one fell swoop, Governor DeSantis could be saving the conservative movement in the United States by wiping out the ill-gotten gains that Democrats got in places like New York and California, where they control all the political levers of power.

00:07:56.000 Florida is the model. 0.73

00:07:58.000 This is a state that if you won by 100,000 votes and elections passed, it was considered a blowout.

00:08:05.000 Republicans have always lagged behind the Democrats in registered voters.

00:08:10.000 They now exceed registered voters.

00:08:12.000 Republicans now exceed Democrat registered voters by over 100,000 votes.

00:08:18.000 To put that in perspective, folks, that is landslide territory already.

00:08:22.000 There's now Democrats making jokes about Florida that it is now a conservative state and it's like basically lost.

00:08:27.000 I mean, they're already throwing up their hands, but this is what's so incredible.

00:08:31.000 We have been playing from a deficit for basically as long as I've been paying attention, as long as I've been politically active.

00:08:37.000 We've been playing from a deficit in registered voters, and yet we still eke out wins.

00:08:41.000 It's a miracle that conservatives have won any elections.

00:08:43.000 And this shows the weakness and the frailty of the progressive mind.

00:08:48.000 The second they are faced with a true leader, a very courageous leader, they fall.

00:08:53.000 They're throwing up their hands in Florida, folks.

00:08:55.000 They are writing it off as like conservative land, as Jesus land, as DeSantis land.

00:09:01.000 Meanwhile, we're still fighting on all fronts.

00:09:04.000 And if you think states like Washington, like Oregon, like Colorado are out of limits, you're dearly mistaken.

00:09:13.000 All of those are now within reach.

00:09:15.000 Because of just how poorly this country has been managed by the failed Biden regime on so many fronts, people are waking up.

00:09:23.000 And now, if we can do the mechanics and the messaging of how we run elections in this country, we are looking at an absolute extinction event within the Democrat Party, and they are running scared.

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00:10:58.000 We are going to be joining now with Joe Bob, which, you know, now that I'm saying it, I think of it as one name, but there's actually two names there.

00:11:08.000 Joe Bob, he's a Turning Point USA contributor, who was with us yesterday.

00:11:13.000 By the way, I was hilarious, Joe Bob.

00:11:15.000 I was acting like I didn't know you because I didn't want to give up your ruse.

00:11:20.000 Anonymity.

00:11:21.000 Yeah, your anonymity.

00:11:22.000 I mean, you looked exactly like a leftist.

00:11:24.000 It was very impressive.

00:11:25.000 Joe Bob, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:11:27.000 Thanks, man.

00:11:28.000 And I figured since it's my Charlie Kirk show debut, I should explain to people that one grandparent was Joe, the other one was Bob.

00:11:34.000 And that's how you get a brown guy with a Hillbilly Alabama backwoods name. 0.59

00:11:38.000 I probably have more teeth than most of the Joe Bobs you know, though.

00:11:42.000 You know, it's a good thing.

00:11:45.000 When I think about my experience yesterday, I have so much I want to say.

00:11:49.000 I mean, there's not enough time in this hour.

00:11:51.000 I cannot stress enough to the people listening to the radio show, to the podcast, listening on streaming, just how impactful yesterday actually was for me at UC Berkeley.

00:12:04.000 Tell the audience what you saw, your approach, by the way, because you were sort of undercover.

00:12:10.000 You were keep California weird or keep Berkeley weird or something like that.

00:12:14.000 And we have some clips here that we can show.

00:12:16.000 Actually, you know what?

00:12:17.000 That's what we'll do.

00:12:17.000 We'll start with that.

00:12:18.000 Cool.

00:12:19.000 This will give people a good primer for what you were doing.

00:12:23.000 Cut 90 is some of your handiwork, Joe Bob.

00:12:26.000 Let's go ahead and play Cut 90.

00:12:28.000 Come on, wait.

00:12:29.000 What is his deal?

00:12:30.000 Should we like, what's his deal?

00:12:32.000 If you don't like, you're literally talking about this.

00:12:34.000 Did you know he just tweeted that Kamala Harris's vice presidency was affirmative action?

00:12:40.000 No, also in sport that don't take anything at this point.

00:12:45.000 The guy who gave us his flow, he seemed like a.

00:12:47.000 I feel like nobody wants war with Russia.

00:12:52.000 That's amazing.

00:12:53.000 So tell us what you were doing and what we just saw.

00:12:56.000 So Charlie was set up doing his thing, which was hilarious.

00:13:00.000 And I wish I could have seen more of it because I think there was some substantial dunking on leftist thought there going on at the table.

00:13:07.000 But we were incognito, kind of going around, milling around with the I had my black beanie on, my sunglasses, my black shirt, kind of just confused and aloof of everything happening at the protest.

00:13:22.000 I think there were people protesting, but I don't even know what they're saying.

00:13:24.000 There was definitely some Nazi name-calling going on.

00:13:28.000 Well, so I was just asking questions. 0.99

00:13:30.000 Like I wasn't going out there to like stump people on their dumb ideas. 0.92

00:13:35.000 I was just asking questions and letting people talk themselves.

00:13:39.000 And a lot of the footage that I think we're going to see eventually, they're cutting it up and making it look all nice and pretty.

00:13:45.000 Is people talking themselves into circles?

00:13:48.000 We had one girl, by the way, who was adamantly chasing us down afterwards, saying, You need to delete my footage.

00:13:54.000 I have the right to have you delete all of my footage.

00:13:57.000 You don't have the right to film me.

00:13:59.000 And, you know, we didn't get into the legal.

00:14:01.000 Like you stole her essence or something.

00:14:02.000 Yeah, the legality of like, hey, you knew that you were being filmed.

00:14:05.000 So no, we don't have to do whatever you say.

00:14:08.000 But it was funny just because there was no side that we were taking.

00:14:14.000 Obviously, you know, the Turning Point Crew is there, and they were doing a fantastic job, like being super polite to people.

00:14:19.000 They weren't being pushy.

00:14:20.000 They're just, hey, here's what we're here to talk about.

00:14:22.000 I was just, as much as I could, just kind of asking people questions that they should be able to answer.

00:14:29.000 There was a guy with a megaphone there that just kept screaming for what it seemed like an eternity.

00:14:34.000 He was like 70, by the way.

00:14:36.000 Yeah.

00:14:36.000 He was like an old hippie that's like trying to teach the new Berkeleyites what to do there.

00:14:42.000 He was not a student.

00:14:44.000 He was not a student by a lot of years.

00:14:47.000 And he had this megaphone.

00:14:48.000 And honestly, it was kind of impressive the fact that somebody could talk that long without taking a break.

00:14:54.000 But anyways, we tried to talk to him.

00:14:56.000 And he said, oh, those guys over there are fascists.

00:14:58.000 And I go, okay, what does that mean? 0.92

00:15:00.000 He said, well, they're conservative fascists.

00:15:04.000 Okay, cool.

00:15:04.000 So we still don't have a definition as to what that means to you.

00:15:08.000 And he's like, yeah, they're evil people.

00:15:10.000 Okay, cool. 0.98

00:15:11.000 So we're just not going to discuss anything other than you think that they're fascists and evil. 0.89

00:15:19.000 All right.

00:15:20.000 No points of contention that you're going to make other than that.

00:15:23.000 So I guess we'll just go on your word, old dude with a megaphone.

00:15:28.000 Yeah, it didn't even matter.

00:15:30.000 I mean, there's looking for logic in some of the arguments is actually futile.

00:15:37.000 I actually am more interested in, I mean, I was saying before, I was around the booth where Charlie was talking, and I was having my own sidebar conversations with some of the students.

00:15:47.000 Charlie and I debriefed on this afterwards.

00:15:50.000 I want to talk about that clip we actually we just saw from your footage, which is just amazing.

00:15:54.000 But Charlie and I were talking about, you know, there was sort of a lot of smart kids.

00:16:00.000 You expect that at Berkeley. 0.99

00:16:02.000 It wasn't that they were dumb. 0.98

00:16:03.000 It's not that they didn't have the raw horsepower to reason through these arguments. 0.99

00:16:08.000 It was that their arguments were founded on a false premise.

00:16:12.000 Like their entire logic was built on a lie, was started on a lie.

00:16:18.000 So you had to sort of deconstruct layer upon layer upon layer.

00:16:22.000 And then what I think your clip so beautifully illustrated, Joe Bob, was that just the pure shock in these kids' expressions that there would be somebody present on UC Berkeley's campus that said something bad about Kamala Harris.

00:16:42.000 Could you believe it?

00:16:43.000 Like, you can't, that's this guy over here.

00:16:45.000 Obviously, I'm not sure if they knew who Charlie was or not, but they couldn't get over the fact that he had this opinion.

00:16:51.000 It was shocking to them.

00:16:52.000 Well, you know what?

00:16:53.000 You know what's actually, well, okay, so to your point that you made earlier about there were, there were smart kids there because there are smart kids that go to that school that, you know, think bad ideas.

00:17:03.000 I honest to God think that they picked a side too early on and are too prideful to admit when somebody makes a good argument against their bad ideas.

00:17:11.000 Total smart kid syndrome, by the way.

00:17:13.000 Which is, yeah, it's exactly the type of kid that goes to Berkeley.

00:17:16.000 But I thought that there was another really fascinating component about this.

00:17:20.000 There were a lot of people that, you know, weren't big fans of Charlie.

00:17:24.000 But when we started talking to him about, you know, like, okay, cool.

00:17:28.000 So you think, so you don't like Charlie.

00:17:31.000 He doesn't like Joe Biden.

00:17:32.000 So that means you like Joe Biden.

00:17:34.000 And they were like, no, we don't like him either.

00:17:37.000 They couldn't stand him either, which I thought this was actually fascinating.

00:17:42.000 There was a Berkeley specifically put out a poll yesterday.

00:17:45.000 I don't know if you talked about this or saw this.

00:17:47.000 No, I didn't see this.

00:17:48.000 They polled California voters.

00:17:50.000 Joe Biden's approval in California, the bluest of the blue states, is at 50% with a disapproval at 40%.

00:17:59.000 And on top of that, this is what I thought was super fascinating, that that girl was talking about Kamala Harris.

00:18:03.000 She went on a little bit of a tirade about how much, well, no, Kamala Harris definitely has the grit and brain capacity to be, this is not affirmative action at all. 1.00

00:18:14.000 California voters in this Berkeley poll gave Kamala Harris in her home state where she was the attorney general and a senator in the Bay Area 35% approval rating. 0.98

00:18:26.000 I'm still surprised it's that high.

00:18:28.000 I love that it's like way underway.

00:18:30.000 I can't believe they gave Biden 50%.

00:18:32.000 I mean, that's, well, it's seen him try and form a sentence.

00:18:35.000 Yeah.

00:18:36.000 So what, where is your bar, Californians?

00:18:38.000 Is the bar at coherence?

00:18:40.000 Because even then, we're not reaching that bar.

00:18:43.000 But it was fascinating talking to them.

00:18:45.000 Again, we weren't going to be at the capacity that we were engaging with people.

00:18:51.000 We weren't going to change anybody's mind.

00:18:52.000 We're just kind of asking questions and seeing what they said.

00:18:55.000 I think the most fascinating part is not the fact that they couldn't form articulate arguments against anything that Charlie was saying, but the fact that they also really couldn't stand the current administration almost just as much, if not more, than the previous administration.

00:19:10.000 I got that vibe too when I was having the sidebar conversations that I was having.

00:19:15.000 I sensed, Joe Bob, this, and I think Charlie's going to unpack this in the days and weeks to come, but this deep, almost nihilistic cynicism, this, I mean, when we talk about generational theft, which we do on this show all the time, we talk about generational theft, when you talk about what happened in the lockdowns, where you stole years that these kids will never get back of college, which are supposed to be, right?

00:19:43.000 Our culture at least says that college is these are these irreplaceable years of youth, and they're amazing years.

00:19:49.000 They can be amazing years, despite the college cartel and the scam of the colleges that they're currently engaged in.

00:19:57.000 But they stole their childhood.

00:19:58.000 They stole proms, high school dances.

00:20:01.000 They stole sports.

00:20:03.000 They stole being with friends these formative years.

00:20:07.000 And the pollsters, this was in Politico.

00:20:10.000 They're polling the Democrat base, youth base, and they described them as anxious.

00:20:16.000 They described him as confused.

00:20:18.000 They described them as just anxiety-riddled young people.

00:20:22.000 And I saw that on campus.

00:20:24.000 And it was really shocking.

00:20:26.000 And Charlie had some great perspective on this.

00:20:27.000 He said, you know, four years ago, this was not the energy on campus.

00:20:32.000 Four years ago, three years ago.

00:20:34.000 And we see a whole new generation with this nihilistic cynicism perspective.

00:20:39.000 Did you see similar things?

00:20:40.000 What was your take?

00:20:41.000 Well, so my biggest, I think, in line with what you're saying, I saw that on the campus walk when we were talking to people, but I think I saw that most when, remember, Berkeley, California, the event was not only sold out, there were people outside the doors trying to get in.

00:21:02.000 If that doesn't say exactly what we're all thinking of, like, look, even people that are that are, you know, youthful and call themselves liberals and leftists, there's a growing population within them that are just fed up with it, exactly what you're talking about.

00:21:19.000 You saw the angst and the anger on the but it, but it's going both ways, Joe Bo.

00:21:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:25.000 It's like as the country becomes more divided, it's like it's like choose your path.

00:21:30.000 Which way, Western man, right?

00:21:32.000 It's like, it's like you're seeing the people that are searching out for hope and meaning and purpose, and then you're seeing this like cynicism, this nihilistic pursuit, right?

00:21:41.000 You're seeing the winnowing fork of culture, and it's like you could see the kids that are like curious and reaching out this way.

00:21:47.000 I had a number of them pull me aside and be like, totally, yo, there's actually way more conservatives on campus than you would think.

00:21:52.000 Like, you know, and I met like kids that told, I mean, looked completely like they'd be liberal.

00:21:57.000 I mean, I know that's, I don't mean to be presumptive.

00:21:59.000 You look like a liberal, but you, you know, and I mean, and they were pulling me aside.

00:22:04.000 So you saw this, and you're to your point.

00:22:06.000 I mean, we could have filled up an auditorium of 1,500.

00:22:09.000 And, you know, they gave us 299 seats.

00:22:12.000 Like, even the space that they did give us could have sat 600.

00:22:15.000 They gave us 299.

00:22:16.000 I don't know because of COVID.

00:22:18.000 Yeah, like, it was just ridiculous.

00:22:20.000 And anyways, I mean, you're right, though.

00:22:22.000 There is a hunger, but I'm just seeing it kind of like separate even further, the haves and the have-nots, man.

00:22:28.000 You know what?

00:22:29.000 I think to kind of wrap up the point in the segment, the best thing that I think Charlie pointed out during the speech was how proud he was of the turning point volunteers that were there not feeding into the angst.

00:22:46.000 There was a girl that popped a big unicorn balloon that it was a free speech unicorn, not like a unicorn fairy desk stuff. 0.92

00:22:53.000 There was some stuff that got knocked over.

00:22:54.000 There were some physical altercations, and nobody on the turning point acted with anything other than respect.

00:23:00.000 And I think that's going to hopefully sort of bridge this gap.

00:23:05.000 Maybe.

00:23:05.000 It would be jovial, it was almost a jovial vibe amongst the turning point students.

00:23:09.000 It really was fun, and they were having a good time with it.

00:23:12.000 And it was totally respectful.

00:23:14.000 You know, great point.

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00:24:14.000 We are talking about this cynical vibe that we got.

00:24:19.000 It was like, okay, so you got Quinnipiak saying Joe Biden's at 33% approval rating.

00:24:24.000 I'm trying to have conversations with these kids going like, but what about inflation?

00:24:28.000 Are you not worried about you still sort of think that the other side's so bad?

00:24:32.000 I mean, this affects you more than anybody.

00:24:34.000 You're young.

00:24:35.000 You don't own anything.

00:24:36.000 You know, you're going to be priced out of the housing market with all this free money floating around.

00:24:41.000 And they would say, oh, but it's capitalism.

00:24:43.000 It's capitalism.

00:24:45.000 And they weren't utopians.

00:24:48.000 They were nihilists.

00:24:50.000 They didn't say that Joe Biden was going to fix it or the Dems are going to fix it or even AOC or any or Bernie.

00:24:56.000 They just said it's kind of all terrible.

00:24:58.000 And we'd rather your side doesn't have power.

00:25:01.000 I mean, give me the vibe that you're seeing there.

00:25:03.000 Either place you've been interacting with young people lately.

00:25:07.000 What are you seeing?

00:25:07.000 Unfortunately, I think in a lot of those super lefty enclaves like Berkeley, that is the case.

00:25:14.000 I think the optimistic view, and Charlie hit on this yesterday when he was talking, is that a lot of people are looking at that nihilistic cynicism and going, ooh, I don't know if I really like that.

00:25:26.000 And in the same way that the current administration is pushing people towards curiosity, that nihilistic, cynical attitude of your ultra-woke is pushing people also towards curiosity.

00:25:38.000 And our job, it would seem, is to give them a handshake and a hug and say, yeah, welcome to less government and more freedom.

00:25:47.000 That's at least, I think, the optimistic view.

00:25:50.000 Now, the unoptimistic view is it, you know, devolves into utter chaos, which nobody really wants to see that.

00:25:57.000 But, you know, if it is.

00:25:58.000 No, but I think what you're talking about is really scary and a real possibility here.

00:26:03.000 Now, I'm not a my glasses tend to be half full, you know.

00:26:07.000 But when we see cynicism set in, and I think Charlie touched on this actually, you are in a generation, if we're not there yet, which who knows what the heck, you know, maybe we're already there, but it's like within a generation, when these kids grow up and assume mantles of serious authority, power, whatever, you know, their generation could already embody the necessary seeds for serious domestic strife and conflict.

00:26:35.000 You know, like I said, we've already seen this crime wave, we've seen riots, we've seen whatever.

00:26:41.000 We've seen the dissolution of the bonds of society on a large scale, but we could see even more.

00:26:46.000 I mean, if this cynicism doesn't get dealt with, I mean, it leads to a not good place, folks.

00:26:52.000 And yeah, go ahead.

00:26:54.000 Well, no, and that's what I, again, going back to what Charlie said last night, is everything in the conservative movement, or at least what we're talking about is solution-focused.

00:27:06.000 And I think that hopefully brings people out of that.

00:27:09.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:27:10.000 And I think, you know, one of the things that's so important, Charlie and I talk about this all the time, is that those interactions on campus, those things that you do all the time in your role, Joe Bob, as a contributor and all the, are you sort of man on the street, you're reporting that kind of stuff.

00:27:24.000 It's like, it's not necessarily that you're going to see a conversion in that moment.

00:27:29.000 The lights don't always come on right then.

00:27:30.000 But like years down the line, you know, it was interesting.

00:27:33.000 The one girl came up to me and she was hearing the guy on the megaphone calling everybody Nazis and stuff.

00:27:40.000 She looks at me and she goes, she goes, I don't think he's being very fair.

00:27:43.000 And I said, bingo.

00:27:46.000 And I said, you know, we are.

00:27:48.000 You know, we're giving you like a fair shot.

00:27:49.000 Like, you want to like talk?

00:27:51.000 And it just reminds me, and I think that's the message I hope is that these seeds that are getting planted with people like you that have such a massive following online and you're touching so many people like virtually, but also like, you know, through these interactions in person, it's like this is going to have an impact.

00:28:07.000 Final word to you, Joe Bob.

00:28:09.000 You know, it's difficult right now to be optimistic, but I tell you what, I genuinely am.

00:28:17.000 I was talking to Candace Owens, and same thing.

00:28:22.000 She's that this is going to sound bad, but the Biden administration is doing everything they can to push people towards more freedom and less government and more conservative ideals.

00:28:32.000 And as bad as things are right now, and again, I don't want people to have to continue to go through these sorts of bad things.

00:28:40.000 We have a great opportunity right now to seize a bunch of people that are wandering aimlessly and say, hey, this is where we can be and this is where we should be.

00:28:50.000 Let's go, America. 0.93

00:28:51.000 So your message is basically, it's going to get worse before it gets better.

00:28:56.000 But no, it's true.

00:28:57.000 I mean, that's what we're saying.

00:28:58.000 Listen, Joe Bob, it's been an absolute pleasure to have you on the show.

00:29:02.000 Good work yesterday, my friend.

00:29:03.000 I saw you working hard out there in your best leftist attire.

00:29:08.000 So hopefully your ruse isn't up yet.

00:29:11.000 We need you out there more and more.

00:29:12.000 All right, brother.

00:29:14.000 Thanks, everybody, for tuning in.

00:29:15.000 That was really fun.

00:29:17.000 Three episodes of the Charlie Kirk Show from Andrew Colbert, producer Andrew.

00:29:20.000 Yours truly.

00:29:21.000 It was an honor.

00:29:22.000 Charlie will be back tomorrow.

00:29:24.000 We'll talk to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 15, 2022

The Charlie Kirk Show Takes on UC-Berkeley — Here’s What We Saw

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