00:00:55.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:34.000Charlie, I'm thrilled that you're able to cover this story because what happened in our district is just unbelievable.
00:01:40.000Once the left lost the school board as a result of their bad COVID policies in 2021, they decided that they would do anything in their power to discredit the current board.
00:01:51.000They concocted this strategy to make up a fake bullying epidemic.
00:01:56.000And the report was issued by Dwayne Morris demonstrating that they actually had a teacher who refused to report incidences of bullying so that he could instead go to the ACLU and complain.
00:02:07.000We then had one of the own school board members, one of the Democrats on the school board, then sick the Office of Civil Rights on our district.
00:02:14.000It is disgraceful behavior, and everybody needs to understand that this is what's going on.
00:03:06.000And our school board member, Karen Smith, who actually called the Office of Civil Rights, we're thinking about renaming her Karen Smith-Smolette.
00:03:13.000We think that that might be an appropriate way to kind of understand what happened here.
00:03:19.000And so there are, of course, incidences of bullying in any district the size of Central Bucks.
00:03:24.000The incident rate is actually low in our district, as the report demonstrated.
00:03:28.000It's actually below the state average.
00:03:30.000But if incidences are not being reported and you show up to the school board meetings talking about how this is a rampant problem, you can create a narrative that gets the ACLU to investigate the district unfairly.
00:03:42.000That's why we had to spend all of the money at the school board level to go do this investigation.
00:03:47.000By the way, Charlie, they blamed us for spending that money for the investigation.
00:03:50.000So let me make sure I understand this so our audience does.
00:03:53.000So the activists made up a set of situations.
00:03:58.000They covered up bullying reports from a kid who said they were getting bullied because they were LGBT.
00:04:12.000So there's a teacher named Andrew Burgess who had multiple incidences of reporting of an LGBT kid who was unfairly harassed.
00:04:21.000There's no question that this happened.
00:04:22.000It is disgraceful that this happened to this poor kid.
00:04:25.000But instead of going through the proper channels in the school to report this up through the chain, he sat on those reports.
00:04:32.000He sat on those reports as evidenced by this investigation so that he could claim that there was a systematic problem of the district not investigating such claims.
00:04:42.000The only systematic problem was he wasn't reporting them.
00:04:57.000This is the part that is the most gut-wrenching of all.
00:05:00.000This poor kid suffered because Burgess's political agenda was more important than actually getting the kid the help he needed.
00:05:07.000And it became a huge local story, if I'm not mistaken, right?
00:05:11.000Just massive amounts of protests and all that.
00:05:15.000And so now is there backlash against the people that did this?
00:05:19.000Yes, we've had multiple stories written about this.
00:05:21.000It's part of the reason I'm on this program.
00:05:23.000We need to call out this behavior because people have contacted me, Charlie, all around the country telling me, you know, I think stuff like this is going on at my district as well, where people are intentionally hiding the ball so that they can create a national story.
00:05:35.000Central Bucks is in the most purple part of one of the most purple states.
00:05:39.000So what happens in our backyard, people pay attention to.
00:05:43.000And I know, unfortunately, that this case is not the only case of this kind where someone sat on reports so that they could get national attention to their political cause.
00:05:51.000So if they would have gone through the process, there wouldn't have been much there there, right?
00:05:56.000It just would have been investigated and handled.
00:06:01.000Those complaints would have gone up the proper chain of command.
00:06:04.000I'm sure some of them would have been resolved.
00:06:06.000I'm sure some of them required further intercession from the school district, but the district would have known and been able to do something about it.
00:06:13.000But since they weren't reported, you can then go complain that the district did nothing about it because you intentionally didn't report it.
00:06:21.000That is the behavior that we're just so frustrated by.
00:06:24.000So, and also death threats then were sent to conservative school board members.
00:06:29.000Let's give you a taste of that play cut 59.
00:06:32.000You can't even manage your weight, you fat idiot.
00:06:36.000You think you should be in charge of children?
00:06:37.000You're an ignorant, psychologically weak, and damaged waste of scum.
00:06:41.000And it's just very unfortunate your mother didn't abort you in the first place.
00:07:50.000Don't let them create a false narrative that this is a widespread problem without actual evidence that something happened as opposed to just a story that gets told.
00:07:59.000You were able to be very successful winning a lot of these school board races.
00:08:02.000Tell us how you were able to do that and how that model might be able to spread to other states.
00:08:06.000So obviously, we ran specifically in 2021 about the school closures.
00:08:11.0002023, we're going to be back at it again, primarily now on the learning loss from those school closures.
00:08:17.000So we haven't decided exactly how aggressive we're going to be in the state of Pennsylvania this year in 2023, but we're going to be back at it defending the boards that we already elected, as well as putting new people on boards who are going to address the learning loss that we're still suffering from those policies in 2020 and 2021 from.
00:08:33.000Do you have a website that you would like to plug or a way that people can support you?
00:08:37.000I think the most important thing to do right now is to go to Central Bucks Forward.
00:08:41.000Central Bucks Forward is the website of the candidates who are actually running to go address this problem in my home district.
00:08:49.000We'll talk more about the more nationwide or statewide stuff, but please go to Central Bucks Forward, see the candidates.
00:08:56.000We have great candidates running who won't do this kind of thing and call the OCR on a nonsense report.
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00:10:55.000Right here in the New York Times, I'm going to mention the, I'm going to finish the podcast argument in a second, but this is a really important piece here in the New York Times.
00:11:02.000If you were to ask me five years ago, let's pretend you run an insurance company.
00:11:06.000Insurance companies do a lot of investments because they have to turn an investment, they've got a return on their deposits, essentially, because so many people are sending them money.
00:11:15.000And so if you were an insurance company, a pension fund, private equity fund, if you were to say, Charlie, what is a blue chip investment?
00:11:22.000Where can I park my money where regardless how the economy goes, regardless, it's just going to be stable.
00:11:47.000It would be nursing homes, self-storage, and office space.
00:11:53.000Front page of the New York Times, it's a buried lead here.
00:11:57.000Office market in dire straits in Manhattan.
00:12:00.000This is going to result in major economic disruption.
00:12:04.000New York City's biggest corporate landlords had it great for years, benefiting from a booming economy in a city where companies clamored to set up offices from low interest rates.
00:12:14.000That buoyed the economics of an industry built on debt.
00:12:19.000Those days are over three years from into the pandemic.
00:12:22.000Floors of office buildings throughout Manhattan have been emptied by tenants who have shrunk their footprint and employees who work from home.
00:12:29.000Now, there's another rate, another problem.
00:12:31.000Rapidly rising interest rates have intensified concerns for the New York City office market, the largest in the country and a pillar of the country's economy.
00:14:20.000That these guys will go raise $100 million in equity and then they'll go borrow $600 million and go say, okay, and by the way, the bank will happily do it because this is a blue chip loan.
00:14:32.000So if you try to buy, for example, a home, a $5 million home, a $10 million home, the bank will require 30% down.
00:14:39.000If you try to require, if you try to get a single family home for an investment property, that's $1 to $5 million, they'll do 25% down.
00:14:45.000If you're a single-family home between $750,000 and $1.5 million, 20% down.
00:14:51.000But they consider those to be a higher threshold of risk, right?
00:14:55.000Office space never was looked at that risk because the risk department, the underwriting department at these banks, they'd say, no, these are easy.
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00:18:15.000If he creates his own entity, he's fine.
00:18:18.000And I think we're going to see down the road, Charlie, particularly if somebody figures out how to do it correctly, technically, people really curating their watching across a variety of outlets for a variety of individuals.
00:18:32.000I'm going to watch Charlie Kirk from here to here in the morning, and then my device will automatically go over here to this other organization that has Tucker, and then this other organization that has somebody else.
00:18:44.000The era of network TV and traditional cable, I think this is part of the sunset.
00:18:51.000So, Kurt, I want to just kind of get your speculation.
00:19:06.000Well, look, Charlie, we've seen a hundred different explanations.
00:19:09.000Everything from Rupert Murdoch has become Logan Roy in succession to he doesn't like, you know, oh, I want to see the Logan kit, the McLachlan Murdoch rapping, but that's a whole different other thing.
00:19:27.000We've seen that maybe Murdoch doesn't like Tucker's religious angle, or maybe it has to do with the Dominion settlement, or maybe it's this Abby Grossman case.
00:20:10.000And then all of a sudden, you lose Bill and you lose Megan in a span of about nine months.
00:20:15.000But Tucker came in and shocked the world.
00:20:17.000I mean, they didn't, I don't even think Fox executives anticipated Tucker becoming the number one host in the history of Fox News on average over a seven-year period.
00:20:29.000I don't think they expected it either.
00:20:30.000But what Tucker did, first off, he managed to essentially negotiate almost complete freedom of action.
00:20:39.000And he took it in a way that brought in kind of the populist segment that really liked and appreciated Trump.
00:20:49.000Now, look, you will see out there, there are a lot of Trump voters who will tell you flat out, I am a Trump voter.
00:21:26.000I've done a lot of Fox hits in my day, and I like several of the folks there.
00:21:31.000Hell, I graduated from high school in San Mateo, California, right down the street from Greg Gutfeld the same year he did.
00:21:38.000Okay, I like Fox in concept, but I'm not going to watch it every day the way I did because Tucker's gone.
00:21:46.000Tucker was always there, and I used him, and I think a lot of people used him, Charlie, like an internet service because I would DVR him, and then I would watch what parts I wanted to later at my convenience.
00:21:59.000I did not say, oh my gosh, Pucker time.
00:22:02.000It was always Tucker time because I was in control.
00:22:05.000And I think that's going to make it really easy for him to go on an internet system.
00:22:11.000Maybe he goes to Twitter with Elon Musk.
00:23:03.000Again, I write about at Town Hall tomorrow, a piece called You Strike Down Tucker Carlson.
00:23:08.000He'll become more powerful than you ever imagined.
00:23:11.000That's my shout out to you, Star Wars-loving virgins out there.
00:23:16.000You know, there's a tension in Fox between wanting to serve a conservative audience that's underserved.
00:23:24.000It goes for the 50% the other networks actively hate, but while wanting to remain mainstream in the sense that it's objective and not necessarily a cheerleader, at least in the news portions.
00:23:50.000No, I think Tucker's going to be fine.
00:23:52.000I have multiple, you know, I'm saddened because having a network with someone like Tucker in the central canon of cable distribution, which is 110 million homes, there's only four channels, right?
00:24:04.000People are like, oh, just create a new one.
00:24:47.000I was born the last week of the baby boom.
00:24:49.000You're younger, but even younger than you.
00:24:51.000You know, I look at my kids and I've never, other than a cartoon, I've never seen them watch a television program.
00:24:58.000The idea that they would come down and watch a specific television car is completely alien to the way they and their kids conserve consume media.
00:25:07.000Now, guys like me, I grew up, you know, I grew up on the three networks and the weird UHF channels.
00:25:14.000So I, you know, my viewing habits ingrained from ancient times are, you know, you watch the show and it's been modified now using the DDR and everything.
00:25:27.000But those crazy kids today, the future audience for conservative media is not out there watching shows the way we used to think of shows.
00:25:37.000So, and the Fox, you know, Fox audience skews older.
00:25:43.000But then again, there's a lot of the content out there aimed for younger folks.
00:25:49.000Your stuff, the Joe Rogan, Daily Wire stuff, it's presented in a very friendly way to these young viewers who have completely different viewing habits.
00:26:15.000It's going to be interesting to watch.
00:26:16.000I think they'll be teaching about it at Harvard Business School if we don't match due to the funded endowment with the next Republican Congress.
00:26:24.000I don't know if that's kind of what I'm hoping for.
00:27:29.000He's like, honestly, I'd rather be worth $11 and be reaccepted in decent and civil society and be able to have, you know, I want to, he's like, I want Dylan Mulvaney ads back on Fox, right?
00:27:42.000They yearn for that kind of flow of trans capital.
00:27:46.000I think that's kind of what is the desire here.
00:27:50.000It's more ideological and comfort-driven than even money.
00:27:55.000So, Kurt, just to summarize here, the, you know, your lawyer, what was the legal thought, though, on the Dominion case?
00:28:05.000It just seemed to be such a weak case.
00:28:08.000Look, it was going to lose once they got up to the right level of the court.
00:28:12.000I mean, probably the United States Supreme Court, it probably would have lost in front of this judge because he was a seemed to be a liberal judge and didn't rule the way I would have ruled on the motions.
00:28:24.000I think the Court of Appeal wouldn't have gone their way.
00:28:26.000I think the Delaware Supreme Court wouldn't have gone their way.
00:28:30.000I think it probably, I think the United States Supreme Court probably would have taken it, not just because of the money, but because it's an important free speech case.
00:28:39.000The fact that it is legally meritless is not the only factor to consider.
00:28:47.000Clearly, Fox thought it was better not to go through the trial for whatever reason.
00:28:53.000And that could have been, you know, they didn't want the testimony that might have come out, including by Rupert Murdoch, to come out.
00:28:59.000They just wanted to put it behind them.
00:29:01.000They still have some other cases, too.
00:30:48.000If Fox becomes RNC TV, how does that impact us heading into 2024?
00:30:54.000Well, look, I don't know how if Fox loses credibility by picking a side in the Republican primary, all it's going to do is get the people on the side it kicks and everybody else will tune out.
00:31:10.000That's where we remember, Republicans are the abused wives of American politics.
00:31:20.000And it is a, you know, so it's very dangerous for Fox.
00:31:24.000If they don't play it right down the middle within the Republican context, they're going to find, you know, if they're anti-Trump, they're going to see Trump supporters go away.
00:31:33.000If they're too pro-Trump, they're going to see people who support someone else go away.
00:32:04.000And if you're morally, if you have moral problems with a very popular and respected commentator having the ability to influence things, I have two bits of advice.