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00:02:01.000It's called Silence Equals Consent, The Sin of Omission.
00:02:04.000And I go through an overview of world history, and the most common form of government is gangs.
00:02:10.000Get rid of all the police, you'll have gangs.
00:02:12.000And a gang leader with enough weapons we call a king.
00:02:15.000And as the weapons improve, these kingdoms get bigger.
00:02:20.000So instead of cane killing Abel with a rock, they can kill with a bronze weapon, iron weapon, phalanx spear that the Greeks had, scimitar sword that the Muslims had, composite bow that the Mongols had, gunpowder that the Chinese invented.
00:02:48.000He was a one-world government guy with him at the top.
00:02:51.000America's founders decided they didn't like one-world government guys telling us what to do, so they broke away and flipped it and made the people the king.
00:03:10.000Well, you have Roman Republic for a while until Julius Caesar Caesar made himself dictator for life.
00:03:16.000You had an Athenian democracy for a while until Alexander the Great's dad, Philip of Macedon, paid citizens of Athens to betray their own city.
00:03:24.000But ultimately, it was way back around 1400 BC, ancient Israel.
00:03:29.000They come out of Egypt and for 400 years, no king.
00:03:33.000It's a total anomaly in world history, counter every piece of human nature, selfish human nature.
00:03:54.000They come out of Egypt, again, around 1400 BC to 1000 BC. And the system works because every citizen is taught the law and they're personally accountable to God to follow the law.
00:05:24.000Because Romans 13, which every Bible scholar is familiar, that's the verse that says, let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there's no authority except that which God has established.
00:05:36.000The authorities that exist have been established by God.
00:05:38.000And Romans 13 is understood differently in a monarchy versus a republic.
00:05:44.000In a monarchy, subjects submit to the king.
00:05:47.000In a republic, the citizens are the king, right?
00:05:53.000It goes all the way back to the idea that you had people ruling themselves without a king.
00:05:58.000And so subjects obey and citizens give consent.
00:06:05.000And so the people that say, well, you just got to obey the government, they need to pick up and go and live in China and just surrender their conscience to Xi Jinping.
00:06:14.000But in America, our founders set it up where we, the people, are in charge, and we got this idea from ancient Israel that first 400 years out of Egypt before King Saul, the Hebrew Republic.
00:06:26.000And that's why they taught Hebrew at Yale and Harvard.
00:06:28.000It's a fascinating study, but when people don't know history, they just study the scriptures, they're like, well, we gotta figure out, are we supposed to submit?
00:06:38.000Well, the founders of America looked at this pre-King Saul period, where you had millions of people, everybody taught the law, and personally accountable to God to follow it.
00:06:47.000And so they taught Hebrew at Yale and Harvard.
00:06:49.000To this day, Yale has Hebrew characters on its coat of arms, truth and light.
00:06:54.000So one of the things I talk about in my new book, it's called Silence Equals Consent, The Sin of Omission, is in New England, you had churches founding cities.
00:07:05.000You had the first Baptist Church in America founded the city of Providence, Rhode Island.
00:07:10.000And the first Congregationalist Church in America founded a city, Hartford, Connecticut.
00:07:16.000And then you had Catholics founding Maryland.
00:07:20.000And you had Quakers founding Pennsylvania.
00:08:27.000The American constitution is a nationalized, secularized form of covenant.
00:08:33.000And he goes on to say covenant lies behind constitution.
00:08:37.000And the word federal is Latin for covenant.
00:08:40.000We have a covenant form of government in America where we the people rule ourselves bottom up, not some king or president or tyrant rule and top down through mandates.
00:08:52.000There's even a plaque in Hartford, Connecticut.
00:08:56.000And the plaque says, Thomas Hooker's congregation established the form of government upon which the present Constitution of the United States is modeled.
00:09:05.000It's like, what? Yeah, here you have our Constitution based on New England church covenant governments, based on the Bible, what part of the Bible that first 400 years out of Egypt before it came to all.
00:09:17.000The Hebrew Republic. And so that's the original plan that God gave to his people.
00:09:23.000It was only after they sinned that they asked for a king.
00:09:28.000And it's an interesting little chapter.
00:09:35.000They weren't teaching the law anymore.
00:09:37.000You're like, what? Yeah, there's Eli, the high priest, his own sons are doing sexual immorality.
00:09:43.000They're sleeping with women in the very tent where the Ark of the Covenant is.
00:09:46.000And then you have another Levite with a graven image in the house of a guy named Micah.
00:09:51.000You read the story in the book of Judges and the tribe of Dan comes along and steals the graven image and tells this Levite to come along.
00:09:58.000And you're scratching your head like, what's this Levite doing with the graven image?
00:10:02.000Isn't that one of the commandments? You're not supposed to have them.
00:10:05.000And then there's the terrible story of a Levite with a concubine.
00:10:09.000The law says the Levites to marry a virgin of his own tribe.
00:10:12.000Here he goes with the woman he's not even married to, and they're traveling, and the house gets surrounded by sodomites.
00:10:19.000Something about that behavior that appears at the last stages of a people ruling themselves, this casting off of self-restraint.
00:10:26.000Poor concubines rape to death, and by the time you're grossed out, you read the line, every man did that which was right in their own eyes.
00:10:33.000Why? Because the pretty stopped teaching what was right in the Lord's eyes.
00:10:38.000What happens when the power's out, your phone says no service, and the grid is down?
00:11:50.000And Samuel cries, and the Lord tells him, they did not reject you, they rejected me.
00:11:55.000So God's original plan for his people was to not have a king, have everybody be taught the law, and personally accountable to God to follow it.
00:12:02.000And so there's the story of King Saul pouting that his son Jonathan became friends with David.
00:12:08.000And he turns to his soldiers and he says, none of your soldiers care about me.
00:13:30.000And the founders of America looked to the pre-King Saul part of the Bible.
00:13:35.000And so the kings of Europe, they wanted a theocracy.
00:13:38.000You believe the way their government tells you to believe, or you're put in a January 6th jail, you're canceled, and you're burnt at the stake.
00:13:45.000Our founders didn't want dominionism in that sense.
00:13:48.000They wanted freedomism. They wanted liberty.
00:13:51.000And it goes back to the concept that God loves you.
00:13:53.000He wants you to love him back, but for love to be loved, it must be voluntary.
00:13:59.000And so founders in America, they wanted the freedomism.
00:14:02.000And so that's why it's sort of a straw man when they say, got to watch out for those Christians.
00:14:06.000If they get in power, they're going to force their views on you.
00:14:09.000It's like, how can you force freedom on people?
00:14:10.000I'm going to force you to have freedom of religion and freedom of speech and freedom of press and freedom of conscience and freedom to defend yourself and freedom to have a jury by a trial of your peers and freedom from cruel and unusual punishment.
00:14:26.000Freedom. But they confuse What Christianity was in Europe under kings versus in America, which was the pre-King Saul part of the Bible, where you had millions of people, everybody taught the law and accountable to God to follow it.
00:16:00.000You won't do worldly things anymore, like bars and brothels and government.
00:16:04.000It's like, wait, what was that last thing?
00:16:06.000Yeah, government, it's worldly. If you're really Christian, you're not going to be involved.
00:16:10.000Well, that's sort of different than an entire century of the 1600s where everybody's involved in church and everybody's involved in the city government because it's the church founding the city.
00:16:18.000There's like no non-church members to let them be in charge.
00:16:22.000And they're like, yeah, but we're not going to do that in the 1700s.
00:16:25.000If you're really, really a Christian, you're going to withdraw from the worldly government and just be involved in church stuff.
00:16:35.000Martin Luther starts the Reformation because he had a personal experience with Jesus.
00:16:39.000But some German princes want a break from Rome.
00:16:42.000And they say, this is the chance I've been waiting for.
00:16:45.000Kingdom of mine, I just decided you're all Lutherans.
00:16:48.000And the people are like, okay, okay, we're Lutheran.
00:16:51.000What do we believe? Bill also mentioned, why is it then that so many Christians that are pastors in America, pastors of churches, are hesitant to speak out?
00:17:00.000Why is that, Bill? Well, some of them have bought into this theology.
00:17:06.000The kingdom of the government, the kingdom of the church, the two don't touch.
00:17:10.000And if you're really, really spiritual, you'll withdraw from government and just be involved in church stuff.
00:17:16.000Well, it brings up an interesting situation, because if all the spiritual people withdraw from government, who's left to be involved but the less spiritual?
00:17:24.000And because they're less spiritual, they're going to yield to their ambitions, become power hungry, and be tyrants.
00:17:30.000And it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy.
00:17:34.000Don't get involved in government because it's worldly.
00:18:22.000One person can do both. But the Pietists are like, no, you can only do one thing.
00:18:25.000And if you're really spiritual, you will withdraw from government and just be involved in church stuff.
00:18:31.000And there were even German princes that donated money to the pietists so they would teach their people not to get involved in the government.
00:18:39.000It's sort of like globalists giving money to woke seminaries so Christians will teach themselves not to get involved in politics while at the same time those globalists are giving money to their LGBTQ Gaza activists to get them involved in politics.
00:18:54.000Give money to silence your opposition and motivate your supporters.
00:18:57.000And so one of the little stories that people are often overlooked is these Moravians, these Lutheran Pietists, did influence the Wesleys, who did influence George Whitefield, who preached the Great Awakening Revival.
00:19:13.000And his message was, it's more than doctrine.
00:19:15.000You have to have an experience with Jesus.
00:19:17.000And when you do, your life will change and you won't be involved in worldly things.
00:19:20.000And to some, it was so personal, it was only personal.
00:19:40.000And Patrick Henry gives his Give Me Liberty, Give Me Death speech, who's there but the pastor, John Peter Muhlenberg.
00:19:47.000So he goes to George Washington and says, I want to help.
00:19:50.000Washington says, I'm going to make you a colonel, go get your men.
00:19:53.000And he goes to church and preaches out of Ecclesiastes, time for all things, time to gather stones, time to scatter, time to preach and a time to fight.
00:20:00.000And he takes off his clerical robe and has a uniform, has an altar call, 300 men of his church and surrounding churches, kiss their wives goodbye right off to become the 8th Virginia Regiment.
00:20:09.000He's promoted to general and he's elected to Congress and his statue is in the U.S. Capitol Statuary Hall, taking off his clerical robe with the uniform.
00:20:17.000Well, his brother Frederick is writing him letters saying, you have become too involved in matters which as a preacher, you have nothing whatsoever to do.
00:20:28.000And John Peter writes to Frederick saying that he's a Tory British sympathizer.
00:20:33.000And Frederick writes back and says he cannot serve two masters, right?
00:20:36.000Two kingdom concept from Germany, kingdom of the government, the kingdom of the church, the two don't touch.
00:20:41.000And then the British invade New York and burn Frederick's church.
00:20:46.000And he decides he needs to get involved.
00:20:48.000He's elected to Congress and he's elected the first speaker of the House.
00:20:51.000The first speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives is a pastor, Lutheran pastor, Frederick Augustus Muhlenberg, who went from pietist, don't get involved in government, to getting involved.
00:21:04.000And what did he pass in the first session of Congress with his brother there?
00:21:07.000The First Amendment. Does anybody honestly think that these two pastors would vote to outlaw themselves?
00:21:13.000Pastors aren't supposed to be involved in politics, even though we are, and we're in Congress, and we're passing the First Amendment.
00:21:17.000No, the First Amendment, as well as the first 10 amendments, were handcuffs on the federal government to keep it from becoming a Frankenstein, King George III monster, ruling through mandates, canceling people unless they surrender their conscience to the king, putting them in J6 prisons and burning them at the stake unless they agree to all the government latest doctrine, right? And so the idea that we need to look at is why can't we have both?
00:21:43.000Why can't we have a covenant plan where we the people rule ourselves and have a personal experience, right, with the Lord?
00:21:51.000I mean, it is personal, but don't we want to leave a nation to our children where they have a chance to have a personal experience with the Lord?
00:21:58.000Because if you don't get involved, What they are teaching the children is that God does not exist.
00:22:05.000Would God want the children to be taught he didn't exist?
00:22:08.000And if they think he exists, they come to the conclusion he's messed up.
00:22:12.000He's put in men and women's bodies and you have to have operations to fix it.
00:22:15.000What a messed up God. He's either confused up there, powerless, or worse, sadistic.
00:22:21.000And if that behavior is not sin, what behavior?
00:22:51.000And so I tell people, the most important thing is to bring people to Christ, but the second most important thing is to preserve the freedom to do the most important thing.
00:23:01.000If you really think the gospel is the answer, you're going to be involved wanting the freedom to preach it.
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00:24:10.000So pastors are then wondering, how should I talk about this election?
00:24:15.000Can you try to bring this, to contemporize this, if you will, Bill?
00:24:20.000How should a Christian view this election?
00:24:23.000Yeah, well, that sort of goes back to the title of my book, Silence Equals Consent.
00:24:27.000The same way the church members are silent at a wedding ceremony and they're given their consent, if the church members are silent when they're killing babies, they're giving their consent to killing babies.
00:24:36.000And if you give consent, you're an accessory to the crime.
00:25:07.000You buy a rent house for some retirement income and a squatter moves in.
00:25:11.000And if you know about it and you're silent, you don't try to evict them or charge them rent, they can gain title to your rent house through adverse possession just by you being silent.
00:25:22.000You design a trademark, somebody copies it, it's all over the internet.
00:25:26.000If you do not try to defend your trademark, they all get to use it.
00:25:30.000It's in our Constitution. Article 1, Section 7.
00:25:50.000And so if church members are silent and at wedding ceremony they're given consent, if the church members are silent when they're killing babies, they're given consent to killing babies.
00:25:59.000They actually have a woke tactic and it's to guilt trip Christians into being more Christian than Christ.
00:26:07.000You say, what? They say, yeah, if you're really Christian, you'll be silent and give your tacit approval to us teaching something to children that Jesus would never teach to children.
00:26:17.000I mean, would Jesus teach the trans agenda?
00:26:22.000Matthew 19, he who made them at the beginning made them male and female.
00:26:26.000And yet they're telling you, if you're really Christian, you'll be silent and give your approval to us teaching something Jesus would never...
00:26:31.000So if you're really Christian, you won't act like Christ.
00:26:34.000I mean, think of it. Here are school counselors who cannot even define woman.
00:26:38.000Yet they think they can tell that a little boy is supposed to transition to be a little girl.
00:26:44.000And Jesus said, if you allow one of these little ones who believes in me to fall into sin, it will be better for you to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone around your neck.
00:26:53.000So I think it's going to be a rude awakening for all those people that, all those church members that think they're being, oh, we don't want to get involved in politics.
00:26:59.000We just preach the gospel at our church.
00:27:01.000We are so spiritual. We don't care about what kind of country we're leaving our kids.
00:27:04.000I think it's going to be a rude awakening when they realize by their silence they're giving consent to the evil.
00:27:09.000They're inviting judgment on themselves.
00:28:03.000Moses and Aaron are called to the door of the tabernacle.
00:28:07.000And the Lord spake to Moses, take the rod, gather the assembly, thou and Aaron speak to the rock, water will come out.
00:28:14.000Well, they gather the assembly and then Moses lifts up his rod and hits the rock twice and water comes out.
00:28:19.000End of the chapter. Lord spake to Moses, Aaron will not enter the land because both of you rebelled against my command at the waters of Meribah.
00:28:28.000It's like both. We just read the chapter.
00:28:30.000Aaron didn't do anything the whole chapter.
00:30:43.000And State Representative Scott Bottoms, we were at a meeting together and he talked about visiting with sheriffs who told him that there are wicked people buying children for sex.
00:30:52.000And so he introduces a bill and it gets voted down.
00:31:00.000And then in California, earlier this year, Shannon Grove, a state senator, introduced a bill making purchasing a child for sex a felony versus a misdemeanor with as little as two days in jail.
00:31:45.000You know the Salvation Army started with William and Catherine Booth rescuing children out of sex trafficking in London.
00:31:52.000Wicked people would go to a poor family and say, give us your daughter, we'll give her an education.
00:31:56.000They get her out of the door and they sell her into a brothel.
00:31:59.000And when Catherine Booth found out about this, she said, I felt as though I must go and walk the streets and besiege the dens where these hellish iniquities are going on to keep quiet, seem like being a betrayer to humanity.
00:32:13.000How can church members be silent with the selling of children?
00:32:18.000There's close to 300,000 missing children, and there's evidence that they're being put into sex trafficking.
00:32:24.000Even the CEO of Goya, the food company, G-O-Y-A, he talked about how this administration is complicit in the sex trafficking of children.
00:32:36.000And to have people say, oh, we don't like Trump because of his tweets, it's like...
00:32:41.000He's better than somebody that does cocaine in the White House.
00:32:47.000He was the young man that filmed Planned Parenthood people talking about selling body parts.
00:32:53.000And what happens is Kamala Harris, however her name is pronounced, she didn't go after Planned Parenthood because they contributed to her campaign.
00:33:01.000She goes after David Daleiden for a decade and the people that were with him.
00:33:07.000And so the radical pro-abortion, and then you have many states right now,
00:33:15.00011 states have proposals for amendments to the Constitution to enshrine abortion
00:33:57.000The same thing in Florida and in Maryland and in South Dakota and in Colorado.
00:34:01.000I've been to these states. I'm campaigning because we need to wake up pastors and churches to get out and vote.
00:34:08.000How could you just sit back and let something as little as somebody's personality?
00:34:13.000And I was on with Frank Turek last night, and he was sharing with me how much he respects you.
00:34:20.000Oh, it's very sweet. He had shared something, and you've shared it as well, is that you're not voting for Trump, you're voting for the 5,000 people that come along.