The Charlie Kirk Show - The Cowards Who Lead the GOP with Darren Beattie and Benjamin Spell

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00:01:25.000 Ben Spell is with us.

00:01:26.000 Yeah.

00:01:27.000 Good morning.

00:01:27.000 Well, I don't know if you've ever been on the program, but welcome back to Phoenix.

00:01:30.000 Yeah, glad to be here.

00:01:31.000 Thanks for having me.

00:01:32.000 And so you are running a really important company called Good Ranchers, one of my favorite companies.

00:01:37.000 And I love meat.

00:01:38.000 I don't eat any carbohydrates, basically, just proteins and fats.

00:01:42.000 And you guys have the highest quality meat.

00:01:44.000 And you personally, former pastor, right?

00:01:47.000 We see the world the same way.

00:01:48.000 Just riff on your company.

00:01:49.000 It's great.

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00:01:52.000 Yeah.

00:01:53.000 Like you said, I was a former pastor just about six years ago.

00:01:57.000 And my wife and I had been kind of talking about transitioning and literally just heard God's voice one morning go and start a meat company.

00:02:06.000 And we talked about it, prayed about it.

00:02:09.000 Felt that was what we were supposed to do with no knowledge of agriculture or entrepreneurship or anything.

00:02:16.000 So we set out and we sold everything we had and just put our money into doing that.

00:02:23.000 We had just had our firstborn little boy, and that was in 2017.

00:02:29.000 We started in 2018, and God just blessed us right from the beginning.

00:02:34.000 And we had no idea what we were doing, but thankfully, God had a plan for us.

00:02:38.000 And then We realized right as we got into 2020, so 2018, 2019, we had two decently successful years.

00:02:48.000 When we started, it was me selling meat in a parking lot in a truck.

00:02:51.000 Like, that's what I was doing.

00:02:52.000 And so, and what we realized as we started getting some buying power and started purchasing more, that almost everything we were buying at that time was coming from Mexico, coming from South America.

00:03:05.000 And that's what people don't know that it's foreign sourced meat repurposed as American meat when you go to your local grocery store.

00:03:11.000 Yeah.

00:03:11.000 And everything, you know, it was.

00:03:12.000 Said, it said, had a USDA stamp on it and all this.

00:03:15.000 And so, as we started looking into it, we realized, oh, wow, there's actually no country of origin labeling law for beef or pork in the US.

00:03:24.000 It got quietly repealed in 2015.

00:03:28.000 Prior to 2015, you had to have a country of origin labeling stamp for beef and for pork.

00:03:35.000 And it just quietly just went away.

00:03:38.000 And now, over 3 billion pounds of beef gets imported into the US every year and it's being sold in the grocery stores, it's being sold online.

00:03:46.000 And And consumers don't know.

00:03:49.000 People think that because they're buying meat at their grocery store or their local butcher or buying it online from an American company, you just assume that you would be getting meat that's coming from American farms.

00:04:02.000 And it's just not the case.

00:04:03.000 So when we found that out, we drew a line in the sand.

00:04:07.000 Like I said, this was early 2020, drew a line in the sand and said, you know what?

00:04:12.000 We are only going to source from American farms and ranches, which we actually found out is harder than you would think.

00:04:19.000 And so we set out on that journey and then we realized.

00:04:23.000 That's when we realized that no one even knows this and no one's talking about it.

00:04:28.000 And why it's important is I mean, if you look back in history as far back as you want to go, whoever controls the food supply controls the people.

00:04:39.000 And we are actively just relinquishing control of our food supply.

00:04:44.000 We're giving up our farmland just left and right.

00:04:49.000 And we have to take control of it. 0.99

00:04:52.000 We have to support American farms. 0.89

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00:04:56.000 Otherwise, we're going to be.

00:04:57.000 We're going to find ourselves in a situation where we're looking to other countries to feed us.

00:05:04.000 And so you guys could check it out at goodranchers.com.

00:05:06.000 This is a super important topic, as you've kind of touched on.

00:05:09.000 Look, you look at Bill Gates, the synthetic meat movement, they can control you if they can control the food supply.

00:05:14.000 And there's a lot to this from the mRNA shots.

00:05:16.000 And I just want to say, I love Good Ranchers.

00:05:19.000 Every one of our Shabbat dinners, we have all of our Good Ranchers meat.

00:05:23.000 We run out of it pretty quick.

00:05:25.000 And from the chicken to the cowboy, it's amazing.

00:05:28.000 And by the way, just riff on this for a second.

00:05:31.000 Here, Ben, there's this movement to try to get rid of meat in our society.

00:05:34.000 I think it's really damaging.

00:05:36.000 It's not scientific.

00:05:37.000 I think it's trying to create metrosexual beta males that are more subservient to a tyrannical government.

00:05:42.000 Yeah.

00:05:43.000 We've been demonizing meat and especially cattle for such a long time.

00:05:48.000 And we've just, and I say by we, I mean just the people have kind of just been sitting by silently, just letting it happen.

00:05:57.000 And we have to stop.

00:05:58.000 The meat is actually good for you.

00:06:01.000 It's what being a carnivore is.

00:06:04.000 Is what produces testosterone in men.

00:06:07.000 It's what literally, yeah, literally.

00:06:09.000 So, you we have to eat meat, it's what it's what makes us, it's what makes us men, actually, you know.

00:06:15.000 So, what you want, I mean, just so everyone's clear, the testosterone, we don't know if it's necessarily only because of this, but testosterone rates are down like 80% from where they were 30 or 40 years ago.

00:06:26.000 Yep.

00:06:26.000 The average male in his 20s and 30s has a 280 to 350 free testosterone rate, where it should be between 750 and 900, just looking at the spectrum.

00:06:36.000 And no one wants to talk about this.

00:06:36.000 That's right.

00:06:38.000 And if you go to Seattle and Portland, you can see it. 0.72

00:06:41.000 I mean, the men are basically feminized women. 0.91

00:06:44.000 I'm not saying that eating meat will solve all the problems, but it certainly won't hurt. 0.93

00:06:48.000 But they're also trying to get rid of meat because of climate change, too.

00:06:51.000 Yeah.

00:06:52.000 And, you know, as of January of this year, there's 28, a little over 28 million cattle in the U.S. raised for beef.

00:07:03.000 200 years ago, there were over 60 million bison roaming the North America.

00:07:09.000 Well, My point is, there were 60 million bison roaming freely, and there was no climate change issues.

00:07:18.000 We only have half of that raised for beef in the US right now.

00:07:21.000 And like I said, there's just this demonization of beef.

00:07:27.000 And for some reason, the US beef gets it worse than, I don't know, places like China.

00:07:33.000 I don't know if you've been to a steakhouse recently or lately, but this is a pet peeve of mine.

00:07:41.000 I go to the first thing they want to sell you is Japanese A5 or Japanese Wagyu.

00:07:45.000 Wagyu beef, yeah, sure.

00:07:46.000 Right.

00:07:47.000 And, but yet we're demonizing American ranches, American beef that's raised here, which personally believe is the best beef in the world.

00:08:00.000 Yeah.

00:08:01.000 It's just support your country, too.

00:08:02.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:08:02.000 That's right.

00:08:03.000 So it's goodranchers.com, promo code Charlie.

00:08:06.000 There's several aspects to this, but if any of you guys are like, oh, I'm going to go plant based, be very careful with that.

00:08:12.000 Be very careful, especially if you're a man.

00:08:15.000 I'm telling you, you have, it's possible, but.

00:08:18.000 The protein, you have to literally just be like just dumping pea protein into your shakes to even get to equilibrium.

00:08:25.000 Or you could have a nice steak.

00:08:26.000 That's right.

00:08:27.000 I mean, this is, I also believe there's amino acid benefits to eating meat.

00:08:27.000 Right, Ben?

00:08:32.000 And some people say, oh, well, red meat has heart issues.

00:08:34.000 Yeah, if you're like 300 pounds overweight.

00:08:36.000 Yeah.

00:08:37.000 It's old science.

00:08:38.000 I mean, and it's not even science, but it's old data.

00:08:43.000 Many, many, many nutritionists today, I mean, you can Google it, look it up for yourself.

00:08:47.000 They'll tell you meat is essential.

00:08:49.000 It is healthy.

00:08:50.000 Andrew Huberman, who is really well respected, Stanford.

00:08:54.000 Neuroscientist who does a series of long form podcasts on just the data.

00:08:59.000 He was asked, they said, by Peter Attia, or somebody asked him, they said, if you could just eat one thing, if you had only to eat one thing, where it checked all the boxes, he said, oh, a good steak.

00:09:09.000 He said, it checks, you get protein, you get good fats, there's no carbohydrates, amino acids, and so on.

00:09:16.000 Well, there's the thing we need fats, and the fats found in meat are the highest.

00:09:22.000 And animal fats are good for you, and you need fats.

00:09:25.000 In the 70s, we started this war against.

00:09:28.000 Fat, everything fat free with the processed food.

00:09:31.000 And we wonder, by the way, in the hormone production sequence, fats are a necessary precursor to create testosterone.

00:09:41.000 Now, too much fat could be bad for you.

00:09:43.000 However, I mean, too much saturated fat, your body doesn't do that.

00:09:46.000 However, it's actually carbohydrates that are the problem a lot more than fats.

00:09:50.000 Yeah, our obesity problem in the U.S. isn't coming from red meat, it's coming from donuts.

00:09:55.000 Yeah, carbohydrates, and your body making it, turning that into glucose and then storing it as fat.

00:10:01.000 Yeah, absolutely.

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00:10:26.000 We're going to talk about the mRNA shots after the break.

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00:11:48.000 If you guys have like a meat subscription with another company, cancel it.

00:11:51.000 They're like pro pride, it's bad.

00:11:54.000 Okay.

00:11:55.000 So go to good ranchers.

00:11:56.000 They share your values.

00:11:57.000 Yeah.

00:11:58.000 We're not pro pride.

00:11:59.000 No, no, no.

00:11:59.000 I'm saying the bad guys are.

00:12:00.000 Got it.

00:12:01.000 Okay.

00:12:02.000 So by the way, someone just said, Charlie, my husband has been carnivore for two years.

00:12:05.000 His blood cholesterol results are the best he's ever had.

00:12:10.000 Our doctor says to keep doing our doing.

00:12:11.000 And he's shocked because the metal community told him to only eat carbohydrates.

00:12:15.000 Yeah.

00:12:16.000 But the fact, once he went to red meat, Everything got better.

00:12:18.000 I mean, I'm the same way.

00:12:19.000 The less carbs I eat and the more steak and meat I eat with healthy fats, I do better.

00:12:23.000 But let's talk about this mRNA in our food supply.

00:12:27.000 What's going on here?

00:12:29.000 Well, to be clear, there is currently no mRNA vaccines being used in cattle in the U.S. right now.

00:12:37.000 But just like with the country of origin labeling law, it was just silently repealed through Congress with really.

00:12:49.000 The US population not knowing the mRNA vaccine has been in testing for over a decade for cattle, for not just cattle, but for animal use.

00:13:01.000 For over 10 years, they've been testing it, tweaking it, and Congress started talking about it earlier this year and beginning to lobby for the use of it.

00:13:14.000 And the American people are now got wind of it and are speaking out.

00:13:24.000 So, We were the first company to put out a statement and say, we will not use the mRNA vaccine.

00:13:32.000 We will not mandate it.

00:13:33.000 We will not use it.

00:13:36.000 And then we actually came under quite a bit of attack from the agricultural community saying, you're spreading misinformation.

00:13:43.000 It's not even allowed.

00:13:45.000 And you're fear mongering, just trying to get sales.

00:13:47.000 And we weren't doing any of that because just like with the country of origin labeling law, If we don't get loud about it and let the people know that, hey, this could be a thing, this is something that they're talking about behind the scenes, this is something that they're lobbying for, if we don't let the people know that, then it just quietly happens.

00:14:04.000 And the way the law is right now is you don't have to disclose what vaccines you use in animals at all.

00:14:15.000 So that's a problem.

00:14:17.000 And so, how many vaccines does an animal usually get?

00:14:22.000 Well, I mean, it's a, so every animal is different.

00:14:25.000 So with, like, with our, with, with chickens, nothing.

00:14:29.000 Like chickens, I mean, it's a six week animal life cycle.

00:14:32.000 Oh, is it really?

00:14:33.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 Well, I mean, and by the way, our chickens, um, yeah, uh, and with a six week life cycle, you shouldn't have to use antibiotics.

00:14:41.000 You shouldn't have to use vaccines.

00:14:42.000 You should be able to keep them healthy and in a clean environment for six weeks to go from hatch to harvest.

00:14:48.000 Um, cattle, on the other hand, you're talking about two years, um, in, in fields out in the cold.

00:14:55.000 Um, they get, They are herd animals, which means if one gets sick, they're all going to get sick.

00:15:03.000 So, very minimum, almost every rancher in the US is going to use a vaccine to fight against just a common cold.

00:15:16.000 And that's at birth.

00:15:17.000 But outside of that, they shouldn't need anything.

00:15:19.000 They shouldn't have to have over antibiotic use or even antibiotic use because, again, they should be in healthy environments where.

00:15:27.000 They don't have to be sick, not shoved in pens, not shoved in feedlots.

00:15:30.000 They should have open air, open fields, and be able to grace.

00:15:34.000 And the same thing is true, same thing was true with pork.

00:15:37.000 So, like our pork, we're so proud.

00:15:41.000 You know, people always say that you can't cook pork all the way through because you'll get sick.

00:15:45.000 And that's with commodity pork, pork that's raised poorly.

00:15:48.000 But our pork is raised so clean, the bacteria, like chicken has salmonella, the bacteria in pork is called trichinosis.

00:15:55.000 And our pork has no traces of trichinosis because it's raised.

00:15:59.000 I never knew you couldn't cook pork all the way through.

00:16:01.000 I didn't know that.

00:16:01.000 Yeah.

00:16:03.000 Yeah.

00:16:03.000 I really stay away from pork.

00:16:04.000 Yeah.

00:16:04.000 If you're buying pork at the grocery store, you better cook it to temperature because it's going to have.

00:16:09.000 Oh, no, you should cook it all the way through then.

00:16:10.000 That's, yes.

00:16:11.000 Okay, to some extent, yes.

00:16:12.000 Yes, but our pork.

00:16:13.000 Is so it's raised so clean it does not have trichinosis, um, and you actually could undercook it if you wanted to.

00:16:20.000 Um, and no fear of foodborne illness.

00:16:22.000 Look, the website right now is goodranchers.com with the Maui fires and potential food shortages and all sorts of questions about totalitarian control of food.

00:16:33.000 This is super important.

00:16:34.000 Final thoughts, Ben.

00:16:36.000 Um, yeah, exactly what you just said you should stock up, and uh, we don't believe in fear mongering or anything like that, but um.

00:16:46.000 I think every American who can should have a chest freezer in their garage and fill it with essentials.

00:16:54.000 You should have meat.

00:16:55.000 Meat can stay, if meat is vacuum sealed, which all of our meat comes individually wrapped and vacuum sealed.

00:17:01.000 If meat is vacuum sealed, it'll stay good in a freezer for well over two years as long as the vacuum seal is intact and as long as the temperature in that freezer stays frozen.

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00:17:13.000 Ben, God bless you.

00:17:14.000 Thanks so much.

00:17:15.000 Dude, thank you so much, Charlie.

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00:18:21.000 Joining us now is Darren Beattie from Revolver.News.

00:18:23.000 Darren, I have the entire indictment in front of me here.

00:18:27.000 Against 18 co conspirators.

00:18:29.000 Darren, your initial reaction.

00:18:32.000 Well, initial reaction is pretty much reinforcing the reaction of the previous three indictments where we're counting.

00:18:41.000 I fully expect there to be another one.

00:18:43.000 But look, this is, even though it's at the state level, it's part of essentially a conspiracy amongst a weaponized Justice Department at both state and federal level for the Democrats to eliminate.

00:18:59.000 Their most viable political opponent coming into 2024.

00:19:04.000 We're in complete banana boat territory in that respect.

00:19:09.000 Then there's the substantive aspect pertaining to the indictment here, which is a really sort of contortionist approach to conspiracy law, whereby we're given this ridiculous theory that tweets of perfectly First Amendment speech, protected speech, are now considered to be overt acts of a conspiracy.

00:19:33.000 And effectively illegal.

00:19:35.000 And so Trump tweeting, hey, go watch OAN now, or go watch this hearing about proceeding in Georgia about the election case, those tweets are illegal.

00:19:45.000 And so this is sort of an extension of the overall thrust of the previous federal indictment, effectively attempting to criminalize what one might call election denial, to criminalize, in effect, any public speech that calls into question the legitimacy.

00:20:06.000 Of the 2020 election.

00:20:08.000 And this is very convenient because this in itself is effectively a conspiracy to remove Trump from the chessboard in 2024.

00:20:18.000 But in so doing, it also contains a precedent preventing people at the pain of criminal punishment for calling into question the very illegal procedures they're using here in order to disenfranchise Trump supporters and criminalize.

00:20:36.000 Trump's behavior and take him off the chessboard.

00:20:39.000 So there's a lot going on there.

00:20:41.000 It is really yet another escalatory step in the already simply obnoxious and untenable level of political abuse that we see the Justice Department, both at the federal level and here at the local level in Georgia and Fulton County.

00:20:59.000 So, Darren, why has the reaction from Republicans been so underwhelming?

00:21:04.000 You know, we're hearing from people do something, do something.

00:21:07.000 I do not know of a single Republican attorney's general.

00:21:11.000 That has active investigations against powerful Democrats or a local DA.

00:21:15.000 Why is that?

00:21:16.000 And is it time for Republicans to start to realize the only way we stop it is we have to have a mutually assured destruction pact with the American Democrat Party?

00:21:26.000 Yes, I appreciate the reference here.

00:21:29.000 And I did see your discussion with Mike Bent that I think was really excellent.

00:21:35.000 And indeed, on the cutting edge of what we should be thinking about in terms of a broad based response.

00:21:41.000 To this unprecedented level of lawfare, we're seeing really hardball lawfare we're seeing from the Democrats and really the regime more broadly.

00:21:52.000 And the idea that you're suggesting is look, if it's going to be a situation where effectively any Republican that isn't rubber stamped by the regime is going to anticipate and expect criminal punishment,

00:22:08.000 possibly even jail time, if that's the situation we're in, Then we need our people, our DAs, so to speak, our attorneys general in the respective states in which we have control and jurisdiction to play the same game tit for tat and say, okay, you want to indict Trump in Georgia, we'll indict Hunter here, or we'll indict, you know, the Democrats are so criminal, we're not at a loss for opportunities here if we wanted to play that game.

00:22:40.000 The impediment here is really the will.

00:22:43.000 And this is the question.

00:22:44.000 Yeah, it's very true.

00:22:47.000 Republicans are not really set up to play that kind of hardball.

00:22:51.000 No.

00:22:51.000 And so this is interesting, Darren.

00:22:53.000 I mean, it's very Nietzschean, right?

00:22:54.000 Do we have the will to power?

00:22:56.000 Because this is like an unknown concept for people on the right.

00:23:01.000 And in some, let me just say this as a first sentence.

00:23:05.000 I'm glad that Republicans are hesitant to use power.

00:23:09.000 You shouldn't want to, you don't want to be part of a political movement that is constantly enthusiastic to use power.

00:23:15.000 Simultaneously, that old gentleman's agreement.

00:23:19.000 Of we don't go after your guys, you don't go after our guys.

00:23:23.000 You know, the kind of if you've been a former president absent, you know, murdering somebody with an axe on public television, like we're not going to indict you, right?

00:23:32.000 I mean, Bill Clinton flew with minors for sex to a Caribbean island.

00:23:37.000 And that's just the beginning of stuff that we could be looking into Bill Clinton for.

00:23:40.000 Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton had a backwards money laundering operation called the Clinton Foundation. 0.98

00:23:46.000 And I mean, she smashed devices, all that.

00:23:48.000 But the institutional Republicans are always like, well, it would set a precedent.

00:23:52.000 We don't want to overly politicize our system.

00:23:53.000 That's dead.

00:23:54.000 It doesn't exist.

00:23:56.000 And so, Darren, let me just be more specific.

00:23:58.000 What is it going to take if this indictment, this thing, which, by the way, is more than Trump?

00:24:04.000 Jenna Ellis, Jeffrey Clark, these people are going to have to go into debt and double mortgage their homes to be able to pay for legal fees of something that's probably going to get thrown out, criminalizing watching cable television.

00:24:18.000 And yet I do not see the action from our Republican attorneys general or prosecutors or local DAs.

00:24:26.000 Darren Beatty. 0.95

00:24:27.000 It's a great point. 0.72

00:24:28.000 And I just wanted to say, yes, this is, you know, they're using RICO charges, which is kind of ridiculous.

00:24:34.000 These are charges typically.

00:24:36.000 The whole concept of RICO charges emerged as a kind of bespoke response to the problem of organized crime.

00:24:44.000 And the implication here is obvious that they would use it against Trump.

00:24:49.000 And in fact, this particular DA has used similar charges, ironically, and I think most famously, going after a cheating scandal in Atlanta.

00:25:00.000 And how ironic that now she's using the same type of charges to support a much broader and more significant cheating scandal effectively at the national level.

00:25:10.000 To cheat the Americans out of a fair election yet again in 2024.

00:25:15.000 Kind of ironic in that respect.

00:25:18.000 And also, I'd like to say, given that it's a RICO charge, there are other conspirators.

00:25:22.000 They call it the Enterprise.

00:25:24.000 Like they use a lot of language here.

00:25:27.000 And Jeffrey Clark is someone we've written about extensively.

00:25:31.000 He's a great hero.

00:25:32.000 It's really a tragedy what's happened to him.

00:25:34.000 Eastman as well. 1.00

00:25:36.000 They're dragging a lot of good people into the mud here.

00:25:39.000 And it's really a shame.

00:25:40.000 As for what we can do, as I said, the theoretical answer is clear.

00:25:46.000 It's a tit for tat approach in which we refocus our attention and our energy and our efforts into marshaling a robust lawfare campaign that can compete at the level of what they're doing to us, at least to the point where we can say, okay, we can inflict pain on you too.

00:26:08.000 Let's stop this game and get back to.

00:26:10.000 Regular, legitimate, democratic sound.

00:26:15.000 I know.

00:26:15.000 And this is, Darren, you and I are not enjoying talking like this.

00:26:20.000 I'd love to go back to the country we grew up in where you don't have local DAs sniping off the top political challenger to a regime.

00:26:28.000 Not healthy.

00:26:29.000 We call it third world. 0.99

00:26:29.000 It is. 0.99

00:26:30.000 It's unsustainable.

00:26:31.000 As Newt Gingrich accurately put it, he said, We are now entering a generation of bitterness.

00:26:36.000 I totally agree.

00:26:38.000 This is not going to be solved overnight.

00:26:39.000 This is not going to be some sort of kumbaya session.

00:26:42.000 But, Darren, I just don't see the fight.

00:26:46.000 I see Republicans that are just taking it.

00:26:48.000 I see Republicans.

00:26:49.000 There is no fight.

00:26:50.000 And I regret to say I have to be even more cynical than you are because there is one understanding according to which, oh, the Republicans are just so principled and just, you know, they're naive but good and principled people.

00:27:03.000 And I think this is actually much more the case at the retail level, at the level of voters who are, in many cases, kind of naive and principled because, especially older voters.

00:27:15.000 Remember a country that doesn't exist anymore and the norms that allegedly prevailed back then. 0.96

00:27:22.000 But the actual Republicans in charge, they're not principled, they're simply cowards. 0.80

00:27:27.000 And you can tell this by the fact that they don't always resist hardball. 0.92

00:27:32.000 They're perfectly willing to play hardball when it comes to attacking people who violate the regime's norms, when attacking people who go a little bit too far to the right.

00:27:44.000 And in Trump's case, in attacking Trump and anything associated with Trump, the Republicans played hardball against Trump.

00:27:52.000 So they're perfectly capable and willing to play hardball.

00:27:56.000 They're just not set up to play hardball against the actual people who deserve it. 0.98

00:28:01.000 Which in this case is the corrupt, illegitimate, malicious, and ridiculous filth running the regime largely slanted toward the Democrat Party. 0.96

00:28:11.000 It's a question of the will. 0.95

00:28:13.000 I wrote about this a year and a half ago in a short little booklet we distributed for Turning Point USA.

00:28:18.000 And what infuriates me, Darren, is the people have the will, the voters have the will.

00:28:26.000 It'd be one thing if I went around to these rallies, Darren.

00:28:29.000 I spoke to 4,000 people this weekend in the blue state of Washington.

00:28:33.000 The Evergreen State, 4,000 people over four events, Lincoln, Reagan Day dinners, churches, and they are fired up, Darren.

00:28:40.000 They're angry, they're mad, they're talking the way we are.

00:28:44.000 Our ask is super simple.

00:28:45.000 Can our leaders be in alignment with our voters?

00:28:50.000 Well, you know, Trump is really the person who tests the proposition.

00:28:54.000 You know, Lincoln said we test the proposition whether such a nation, you know, can survive of the people, by the people, for the people.

00:29:04.000 Trump is really the test of the proposition of whether.

00:29:07.000 A elected leader can be viable in the United States who's actually aligned with what voters want.

00:29:14.000 And so far, that's very much an open question, unfortunately, given the position that the regime has put them in with these types.

00:29:21.000 Darren Beatty, check out Revolver.News.

00:29:23.000 It's an excellent website.

00:29:24.000 I visit it every single day.

00:29:26.000 You know, Turning Point Action, our political arm, our 501c4, somebody asked me, they said, Charlie, what's the mission statement of Turning Point Action?

00:29:32.000 I said, Our short term mission is to get the Republican Party as conservative as their voters.

00:29:39.000 That shouldn't be too hard to do.

00:29:43.000 Darren, give us some more detail about how the intel agencies, both internationally and domestically, use a playbook of provocation.

00:29:52.000 Well, I mean, they want to provoke another thing like not what January 6 actually was, but they want to provoke a real instance of what they claim January 6 was falsely.

00:30:03.000 And we know that it was a Fed's erection, and the smoking guns of the Fed's erection are Ray Epps and the pipe bombs.

00:30:10.000 But what they don't want.

00:30:12.000 Provoked is precisely the same, the type of response that we were talking about in the earlier segment, which is the one and only necessary response Republicans refocusing their efforts, their energies, and their resources to creating a robust lawfare machine that can counter the weaponization of the Justice Department and the DAs on the state level that Democrats have been doing.

00:30:39.000 If we don't have that, we don't have anything.

00:30:42.000 You might as well never send another donation to a political candidate again if we don't have that.

00:30:48.000 You might as well not go to the voting booth if we don't have that.

00:30:52.000 That is the precondition for having a society in which voting or even free speech matters.

00:30:59.000 And we've learned that the game isn't what we may have thought it was.

00:31:04.000 The game is not having the right ideas.

00:31:07.000 The game is not winning the arguments.

00:31:09.000 The game is not even winning elections in the narrow sense of the term winning of actually having.

00:31:14.000 More people vote for your person than the other person.

00:31:17.000 The game is in controlling the dissemination of information, as we've learned with the censorship problem at the big tech level and the government level.

00:31:26.000 And the even deeper problem is the political weaponization of the Justice Department, of the legal system.

00:31:34.000 If you don't have the legal system in order, you don't have anything really.

00:31:38.000 And so that I think should be overwhelmingly the chief focus of all of our endeavors going forward at basically the fundraising level, at the resource level, and at the message level.

00:31:51.000 Level as well.

00:31:52.000 Yeah, I am optimistic about the people, our audience.

00:31:55.000 We have the best audience in all of podcasting and live streaming and Real America's Voice.

00:32:01.000 They're on top of it.

00:32:02.000 They get it.

00:32:03.000 They're aware.

00:32:03.000 They're engaged.

00:32:05.000 Darren, I don't see it from the leaders.

00:32:08.000 I see timidity.

00:32:09.000 I see cowardice.

00:32:10.000 I see excuses.

00:32:12.000 And so part of it is just hey, take the actual people and get them into some sort of alignment.

00:32:21.000 Our people are begging for something to be done.

00:32:26.000 And I'll be honest, nothing is going to get done in the short term.

00:32:29.000 Because, Darren, the final thought is because some of these leaders who might be really honorable on a church elder board, they might be really effective at running a local coffee shop, they might be good at a local law firm, standing up to local bullies.

00:32:47.000 But some of them are now thrust into a wartime environment and they're scared.

00:32:54.000 Final thoughts, Darren Beatty.

00:32:56.000 Well, you're right in the sense it's a structural problem.

00:33:00.000 It's an institutional problem.

00:33:01.000 But in order to fix it, we have to fix it person by person.

00:33:05.000 And the first step toward that is reorienting our attention and our messaging and our resources toward fixing this problem.

00:33:13.000 If we don't have a system of laws, we don't have a democracy, period.

00:33:19.000 Everything else is worthless.

00:33:20.000 Even the free speech question is secondary to having a functioning and fair legal system.

00:33:26.000 Yes.

00:33:27.000 Right now, we don't have.

00:33:28.000 Well, look, every tyranny is based on the idea that I get to take away your immediate liberty because I have the handcuffs and you don't.

00:33:37.000 You look at Joseph Stalin, what made him a tyrant? 0.56

00:33:40.000 It was the raids at 3 a.m., where he was able to expunge dissidents and, even more shockingly, his allies, because he wanted everyone to be afraid that someone might be knocking on the door.

00:33:53.000 The book Darkness at Noon by Arthur Kessler is one of the most important books that you should read right now about what happens.

00:34:00.000 When a regime starts to weaponize justice.

00:34:03.000 But here's the good news, everybody.

00:34:05.000 The good news is the country is mostly with us.

00:34:07.000 There are more Republican attorneys general than Democrats.

00:34:10.000 There are more Republican counties.

00:34:13.000 Darren, I know we're out of time, but if you were an outsider, you woke up from a coma and you just watched the last 24 hours of news, you would think the country was 85% Democrat and that there would be maybe three or four Republican attorneys general.

00:34:28.000 And it's the opposite.

00:34:29.000 Maybe we need to start acting like the country we actually are.

00:34:33.000 Darren, God bless you.

00:34:34.000 Revolver.news.

00:34:35.000 Thanks so much.

00:34:36.000 Thank you, Carla.

00:34:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:41.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:34:49.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - August 15, 2023

The Cowards Who Lead the GOP with Darren Beattie and Benjamin Spell

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