The Charlie Kirk Show - The Cult of Scientism LIVE from University of Missouri Kansas City

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00:02:33.000 I want to talk tonight because there was a news story that caught my eye where actually, if you live in Kansas, I got to get this right.

00:02:40.000 If you live in Kansas, your senator had a very eloquent rebuke of this, Senator Marshall, which I really appreciated.

00:02:47.000 He really had a forceful condemnation of what's happening in Boston.

00:02:52.000 I think there's some philosophical lessons here.

00:02:55.000 So if you saw the story, maybe you didn't.

00:02:57.000 In the last 24 hours, Boston University has come out and they've said they've developed a new COVID strain that can kill up to 80% of people.

00:03:06.000 And Senator Marshall kind of just said what we were all thinking: like, what the hell are we doing exactly?

00:03:10.000 Like, this is the dumbest thing ever.

00:03:12.000 And so, yeah, I think there's a lot to learn here.

00:03:16.000 Not just, first of all, I've asked the question: what exactly is the best case scenario of developing a COVID strain that could kill 80% of the people that it infects?

00:03:25.000 Like, what's the best case scenario that comes out of this?

00:03:28.000 And it could potentially leak.

00:03:30.000 It could go into the rest of society and cause a lot of damage.

00:03:34.000 But it does beg the question, first and foremost, who's funding it?

00:03:37.000 So there's a constitutional question here because actually the federal government's very involved in this through what we call the fourth branch of government and kind of what I believe to be the unconstitutional growth of the administrative states.

00:03:49.000 We'll talk about that, but also kind of this cult of scientism, which is very, very dangerous.

00:03:54.000 And it touches the abortion topic, it touches the trans topic, and also touches the COVID topic.

00:03:59.000 So, I'm going to go through those three.

00:04:00.000 So, first, I want to kind of talk a little bit about how we view science.

00:04:04.000 And so, a critique that a lot of conservatives get is that we're anti-science.

00:04:08.000 Of course, that's not true.

00:04:09.000 We just don't believe that science should be used to dominate nature and change nature.

00:04:13.000 It should be to explore nature, to understand it, to allow human beings to flourish.

00:04:18.000 We trust the science.

00:04:19.000 We just don't trust the scientists you continually put on television that are wrong about everything and repeatedly and have no concern for the moral well-being or future of our children, and quite honestly, concocted the worst mistake of my lifetime, which was locking down the healthy young to destroy their lives.

00:04:37.000 And it was the dumbest thing we've ever done as a society.

00:04:40.000 And so, it does beg that question: you know, how should we view science?

00:04:45.000 Because a lot of what we are kind of experiencing right now in society, I think, is the misapplication or the misapproach of what science should be.

00:04:52.000 So, first, you have to ask yourself, what is nature?

00:04:54.000 Now, there'll probably be a lot of different religious beliefs here tonight.

00:04:57.000 I'm a Christian, I'm proud of it.

00:04:58.000 I believe that nature is designed, it's not an accident.

00:05:01.000 I believe there's a harmony to nature.

00:05:03.000 I believe that nature is there not for us to serve nature, but to serve human beings.

00:05:07.000 You can have a disagreement with that.

00:05:09.000 But there's something deeper to map, to chart.

00:05:13.000 And the deeper we dive into nature, the more we realize, whether the human genome or whether we just understand kind of the basic configuration of our environment or planet, is that I believe it's just overwhelming this is not an accident, right?

00:05:26.000 That there is a designer, that nature is there for a very specific intent and purpose.

00:05:31.000 And we can have that out in the discussion question if we want.

00:05:34.000 But the purpose is that if you have that belief, or even something similar, you might be a deist, you might be something where you say, you know what, I think there's something special here, okay?

00:05:42.000 Well, then you enter kind of the natural world with some humility, saying that, okay, if there's a purpose and there's an intent, I want to explore this, and I don't want to necessarily exert my own will over nature.

00:05:54.000 It's a very important thing.

00:05:55.000 And so, when you're trying to explore nature and discover things so human beings can flourish, you can have all sorts of wonderful breakthroughs and scientific developments.

00:06:04.000 But if you come after science and say, or come after nature and you say, Oh, yeah, that's really cute, it's a you know, it's an accident or it's a mistake of history, I want to be able to exert our human will over it by any means necessary.

00:06:16.000 And one of the untold stories of the 20th century is the damage that scientism did to humanity across the world.

00:06:24.000 And this is an untold story of the National Socialist Workers' Party in Germany or in the Soviet Union: the amount of mad scientists that wreaked havoc over humanity of the tragedies that we talk about-the Holocaust, the Soviet Union-almost, if you go back and you reverse-engineer it, there was always at the end of that road, there was a group of experts that knew better than you did that said, in some way, shape, or form, we need to do this for experimental reasons or eugenic reasons.

00:06:51.000 And that should have been a big learning lesson.

00:06:53.000 We obviously didn't learn that lesson back in the 20th century.

00:06:55.000 Hopefully, you'll learn it now.

00:06:57.000 And so, you look at kind of the philosophical urge to now go create a new COVID strain, you got to wonder that the people that are pushing forward that in Boston University to have a COVID strain that could kill 80% of the people it comes in contact with, these are people that, and I, this sounds overly simple, but I'll justify it, which is they want to play God.

00:07:20.000 There is no other way to just only a deity can create a virus, and they feel as if as long as I can get close to that in a laboratory, I can have almost godlike dominion over nature.

00:07:30.000 And that's really sick and perverted and wrong.

00:07:33.000 And imagine the potential cataclysmic damage.

00:07:35.000 I'm not here to depress people if just that leaks, right?

00:07:38.000 If that leaks and it causes 80% of people, oh, sorry, we were just kind of doing experiments.

00:07:42.000 And if you look at actually COVID itself or the Chinese coronavirus or Fauci virus, whatever you know, term you want to use, it wasn't, it was science itself that developed this in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:07:54.000 It was the misapplication and the wrong posture of gain of function research, which is intensifying an already pre-existing virus and making it even worse.

00:08:02.000 What drives a person to do that?

00:08:03.000 Well, it drives a person or a group or a government to do that if they do not have the posture towards nature of the natural world of one of study and appreciation, but instead of one of domination, altering and changing.

00:08:16.000 It's a very important difference that is very almost nuanced in the news cycle, but it dominates right now in how people look at abortion, also the trans issue.

00:08:25.000 I'll get to that in a second, but let me kind of finish the point of who's funding this.

00:08:28.000 So the NAIAD, I never get that right.

00:08:31.000 It's the National Association for, you know, of NAIAD, it's the National Institute of Funding Aid, and Fauci is the kind of the main driving force behind it.

00:08:43.000 Thank you.

00:08:44.000 Appreciate that.

00:08:46.000 And I never get it right.

00:08:47.000 I have to memorize all these government agencies, EPA, Employment Prevention Agency, the IRS, all these different ones, right?

00:08:54.000 And so thank you.

00:08:56.000 I appreciate that.

00:08:57.000 And so the kind of main takeaway of this is also, did Congress vote on it?

00:09:04.000 Now, if you go back to the founding fathers, they were very clear about separation of powers and consent to the governed and checks and balances.

00:09:11.000 Three branches, equal, you know, any fourth grader that's taught civics, of which they're increasingly not taught civics, could tell you exactly the moral premise behind separation of powers.

00:09:20.000 Starting in the 1920s, simultaneous, by the way, with kind of the regime of scientists and scientism, is there was this fourth branch of government where Woodrow Wilson, one of the worst presidents in American history, basically made an argument that the kind of founding fathers and what they said and what they did, that's old, that's outdated.

00:09:37.000 We got to turn our back on that.

00:09:39.000 A new era is here.

00:09:40.000 We have technology and we can govern men through different ideas and practices.

00:09:44.000 Now, the implications of that is that an entire new regime, if you will, of governmental power and control was ushered in that does not really fit into those checks and balances.

00:09:54.000 For example, the power is no longer in Congress or in the executive branch.

00:09:58.000 The power is in the deepest kind of chasms of the Department of Justice, the FBI, the Internal Revenue Service, the EPA.

00:10:06.000 And you have this unregulated regulatory agencies that are unchecked, largely unknown with unlimited power.

00:10:13.000 And it's very hard to then check and balance it.

00:10:15.000 And then you all of a sudden have very bad things happen.

00:10:18.000 And you ask yourself, who actually voted for this?

00:10:20.000 So, for example, Congress should say, if you're funding gain of function research at Boston University, not only should he lose your funding, like you should be arrested.

00:10:28.000 This is insane.

00:10:29.000 Like, why are we putting up with this?

00:10:32.000 I mean, let's, I mean, after this, maybe we could have put a pause on funding bioweapons, like a temporary pause.

00:10:40.000 And, but it happens when you have entire administrative organizations that exist without a proper check and balance, without that kind of ability to have power.

00:10:51.000 We'll talk a little about power properly allocated first from the sovereign, the people, then to the government.

00:10:56.000 This fourth branch of government is, I think, one of the great threats happening in America today that very few people understand.

00:11:03.000 And it's not even a political issue, by the way.

00:11:05.000 You know, some people say, oh, that's just conservatives saying that.

00:11:09.000 Regardless of what topic or issue you care about, there's no way you could make the argument that bureaucrats that are unaccountable to anyone but accept their own premise and go to the cadence of their own drum is somehow parallel with representative government or a free society.

00:11:24.000 You then have an entire super government that is basically created that becomes the sovereign.

00:11:29.000 It almost becomes inverse totalitarianism.

00:11:32.000 And then they start to do very dangerous things like spy on a sitting president and then get away with it.

00:11:36.000 I don't know if you saw the Igor Danchenko ruling today, just gets away with it, whatever they want.

00:11:41.000 Or a Department of Justice that raids a home of a former president because they say that he has paperwork not missing or paperwork missing or whatever the excuse was that they end up giving.

00:11:52.000 And so you see that idea of the administrative state in the fourth branch of government, you call it the deep state, you call it the shadow government, you're going to see more and more outrageous behavior like funding killer viruses and laboratories in Boston, of which the federal government is directly funding this.

00:12:06.000 And kind of the mascot of the administrative state, the person that best embodies it is Anthony Fauci.

00:12:13.000 And Anthony Fauci was never elected.

00:12:17.000 Okay, so no one ever went to a ballot box and said, you know, I want to give him a bunch of power.

00:12:20.000 He was largely unknown up until the virus, and he had unlimited amounts of power.

00:12:26.000 I make the argument that Anthony Fauci, and it's a great learning lesson, has anyone ever had as much power as Anthony Fauci had for 18 months in American history?

00:12:35.000 And okay, well, then you could ask me who maybe, maybe not, that's fine.

00:12:40.000 Maybe you're agreeing with me or not.

00:12:41.000 But the power to lock down your kids from going to school, the power to literally control the breathing of an entire generation, the power to kick people out of the military for not out of the military, for not taking mRNA gene-altering technology.

00:12:41.000 I don't know.

00:12:54.000 Like, that's an incredible amount of power.

00:12:57.000 And even if a president's had that kind of power, let's say Abraham Lincoln had that power, at least he was voted into office.

00:13:03.000 At least someone said, I want you to be in a position of authority.

00:13:06.000 And in some ways, Anthony Fauci became the sovereign, and Anthony Fauci became a lot more powerful and important than the American people.

00:13:12.000 So then you say, how on earth do we restrain that?

00:13:16.000 Well, this is why we need a complete and total constitutional reset in our country right now.

00:13:20.000 Whereas whatever the new Congress is, whoever takes power, there needs to be a mass check and balance campaign.

00:13:27.000 And I think a purge of this administrative state and the fourth branch of government.

00:13:31.000 And this is something I really want to, you know, kind of, you know, whether you live in Missouri or Kansas, both Missouri and Kansas, I think, have been abused by the federal government for far too long.

00:13:40.000 You have allowed the federal government to misrepresent you for so long.

00:13:43.000 There is so much power in the states.

00:13:46.000 And never before, probably since the American Civil War, it hasn't been this bad, where the people are so misrepresented by their government, there's such a misalignment.

00:13:55.000 The needs, wants, and concerns to an average person in Missouri or Kansas is so out of what someone in Washington, D.C. cares about.

00:14:02.000 Just look at what they spend their time talking about all day long.

00:14:05.000 Like January 6th hearings.

00:14:06.000 That's the only, that's what their top focus is.

00:14:10.000 And I mean, you could have opinions on that.

00:14:12.000 You could think it's important.

00:14:12.000 But I would imagine in this room, immigration, crime, inflation, economy, and the well-being of the country, not having kids learn pornography in schools is probably more important than the January 6th Committee.

00:14:23.000 Probably.

00:14:28.000 So, but when the administrative state calls the shots, what it does is it weakens your own power.

00:14:35.000 And so let's kind of talk about it.

00:14:36.000 If you form a government, the founding fathers created the longest-lasting constitutional republic in world history because they understood human nature.

00:14:44.000 Human nature does not change.

00:14:45.000 It stays the same.

00:14:46.000 Regardless, if you have more technology, nature of human beings does not change.

00:14:50.000 It's very important, goes back to the scientism argument.

00:14:52.000 So in the 1920s, a bunch of scientists got super excited, especially German historicists and German scientists, where they thought a new era was coming.

00:15:02.000 We have faster cars, we have airplanes, we have machine guns.

00:15:06.000 We don't have to know, we no longer have to be tied to the teachings of the past.

00:15:11.000 A new type of human being can be ushered in.

00:15:14.000 This is so unbelievably dangerous, and a lot of kids are learning this in college and high school.

00:15:19.000 Oh, we have Twitter.

00:15:19.000 We're different than the people 2,000 years ago.

00:15:22.000 Or, oh, we have vaccines.

00:15:23.000 We're a lot better.

00:15:24.000 In fact, technology, in my opinion, only makes it easier for the evil that we have to struggle against every single day to be implemented into action.

00:15:32.000 In fact, I think technology actually makes it easier for us to do the worst possible things imaginable.

00:15:37.000 Just go look at the 20th century.

00:15:39.000 The 20th century, I mean, just look at the last 50 years in our country as well, is that technology misapplied with the wrong moral compass makes it easier to go kill 100 million people in mainland China.

00:15:50.000 Makes it easier to go kill 50 million people in the Soviet Union or the National Socialist Workers' Party.

00:15:54.000 And so then it gets back to this question of what is a human being, right?

00:15:58.000 So I believe a human being is designed and created.

00:16:01.000 Our founding fathers believed that as well, by the way, they said it very, very clearly and beautifully: laws of nature and nature is God, endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.

00:16:11.000 Now, some people say the founding fathers were deists.

00:16:13.000 That's a bunch of nonsense.

00:16:14.000 There was a couple people with that opinion, but 55 out of 56 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing church attending Christians.

00:16:21.000 Now, that's a fact.

00:16:23.000 And so now they were very clear in the Declaration.

00:16:28.000 God is mentioned four times, but you could have, there's a lot of, there's a lot of, let's just say, flexing those joints for your own theological and religious opinions.

00:16:35.000 But it's inarguable that they believe the human being was designed and created.

00:16:39.000 Okay?

00:16:40.000 That's what they believed.

00:16:41.000 Now, with that being said, though, I believe a human being is not just a mind.

00:16:45.000 It's not just reason.

00:16:46.000 It's not just feelings.

00:16:47.000 It's also a soul.

00:16:48.000 That's a big deal.

00:16:49.000 To believe a human being has a soul all of a sudden has a completely completely different approach to what you're able to do to another human being.

00:16:56.000 Now, if you do not believe a human being has a soul, then I'm willing to hear any humanist argument on morality tonight, but basically over a period of time, regardless of how good of a humanist, secularist you personally might be, eventually a lot of people are going to die if you have more, if you have less power than the people that have a lot of power.

00:17:14.000 That's what history tells us: is that if you do not believe that human beings are created for a purpose, I believe made in the image of their creator, then why would you not use your power to exterminate people that are weaker than you and exercise that power over them?

00:17:28.000 And then comes in kind of the abortion debate.

00:17:30.000 Now, you might have all sorts of different opinions on abortion.

00:17:32.000 I'm very pro-life.

00:17:33.000 I'm 100% pro-life.

00:17:34.000 I'm proud of it.

00:17:35.000 Happy to talk about it.

00:17:36.000 But regardless of your opinion on abortion, regardless of that, and all opinions are welcome.

00:17:41.000 I'm not here to scold you or shame you.

00:17:42.000 I can't stand when people do that, right?

00:17:44.000 I'm not here to call you bad names or whatever.

00:17:46.000 We've got to have a conversation about it.

00:17:47.000 And maybe I'll make you think differently and you can make me think differently about it.

00:17:50.000 Okay.

00:17:50.000 The point is this, though, that it's inarguable that abortion within the abortion philosophy is a belief that I can use medical technology to exterminate another being to make my life easier.

00:18:02.000 That is the philosophical underpinning.

00:18:05.000 You might say, I still believe that's okay.

00:18:06.000 That's fine.

00:18:07.000 But it is the fact that I'm larger, I'm more developed, I'm not in a womb, and I'm not as dependent.

00:18:13.000 Therefore, I should be able to use scientific medical technology to be able to exterminate or terminate or discontinue a life that is not as developed, not as large, and is not in a womb like I am.

00:18:24.000 Okay.

00:18:24.000 So if you say that's the case, then how is it any different than if you extrapolate that kind of moral premise than saying that people that are not able to defend themselves in other circumstances should not then be protected outside of the womb?

00:18:36.000 And we see that playing out in every single capacity.

00:18:40.000 Now, you might say, well, Charlie, it's different if it's in the womb and outside the womb.

00:18:43.000 And I say, really, where are you going to put the moral, first of all, it's all human life.

00:18:47.000 Let's just be very clear.

00:18:48.000 Okay.

00:18:48.000 The second thing is, where are you going to then put the moral guardrails where you say we've had a million abortions a year, every single year for the last 50 or 60 years?

00:18:57.000 That's an extraordinary number, 3,000 a day.

00:18:59.000 Okay?

00:19:00.000 Now, you could start to see that extrapolated in other ways, which you see Planned Parenthood that's just recently come out.

00:19:05.000 They're diversifying their business model, right?

00:19:08.000 Planned Parenthood is coming out, and they want to now get into gender reassignment surgeries for minors.

00:19:13.000 Now, it's actually perfectly consistent, though.

00:19:16.000 The same organization that believes it's okay to crush a young person in the womb believes it's okay to alter the nature of their being and their essence if they're 12 years old.

00:19:25.000 It's all a question of the will.

00:19:27.000 It's all a question of I am more powerful than you, so I should be able to use the technology at our disposal to exert that will.

00:19:35.000 We as conservatives should say, no, just because you are able to do it does not mean you should do it.

00:19:42.000 And that's a big deal.

00:19:45.000 And so that kind of gets into that other argument where people want to play God or whatever.

00:19:48.000 And I just, I laughed.

00:19:50.000 Someone said the other day, you know, Charlie, you know, 12-year-olds and 13-year-olds should be able to medically mutilate themselves or whatever.

00:19:56.000 You know, we had this discussion back there and we are at UT Austin, so go figure, right?

00:20:00.000 It was quite the lively conversation.

00:20:02.000 And I just, I think it's such an interesting moment for our country of, are we going to stand up for our kids?

00:20:08.000 You have a 13-year-old that has a high likelihood of making a regrettable, irreversible decision.

00:20:15.000 And we want to even open up the opportunity to go put them into a surgical operation of which it's irreversible that could damage them for the rest of their life.

00:20:24.000 At the very least, the consensus should be, okay, wait till you're an adult.

00:20:29.000 But that's not what's happening.

00:20:30.000 The opposite is happening is that, in fact, Vanderbilt University, the Boston Children's Hospital, Seattle Children's Hospital, they're coming out and they're saying that a massive amount of money and revenue is coming into these hospitals in these medical mutilation, gender reassignment surgeries.

00:20:44.000 And, you know, then I got, here's really where the essence of it is.

00:20:47.000 And this is where education has gone wrong and parents will like what I have to say and some of the kids are going to disagree with it.

00:20:52.000 So it's fine.

00:20:53.000 Don't worry.

00:20:53.000 We'll do the opposite later.

00:20:54.000 I'll do something where the parents will disagree and the kids will like what I say, which is this.

00:20:57.000 There is this, if you kind of study romantic literature, romanticism, John Jacques Rousseau, and all this, they believe that children are born innocent.

00:21:07.000 And as they get older, they get more and more corrupted by the capitalist, colonialistic, misogynistic culture, okay?

00:21:13.000 Kind of, if you think back to the television show, kids say the darndest things, you remember that?

00:21:17.000 That shows a bunch of rubbish, right?

00:21:19.000 And it's nonsense because it's elevating like childhood wisdom as if they have something to tell us and the adults don't.

00:21:25.000 Now, kids might mistakenly say something like super wise and amazing, but do you actually, if you actually read the anti-racist literature of the left and critical theory, they say children see the world through a pure lens and we can learn so much of how they view things, you know, without their not being blurred by all the racism and the misogyny and the homophobia.

00:21:42.000 And you think about it, that's exactly why they think the 12-year-old knows what's better for their gender medical mutilation surgery than an adult who's actually lived life and thinks that that person might be making an irreversible mistake.

00:21:55.000 It's the exact same thing.

00:21:57.000 Education, I always laugh, and I might offend somebody in here.

00:22:00.000 Fine.

00:22:01.000 Fourth graders and third graders, they say, yeah, I get all my kids around the room and I ask them about current events and what they think about it.

00:22:06.000 That's an awful idea.

00:22:08.000 Your third graders don't know anything.

00:22:10.000 You should be telling them what do true, beautiful, good, and wise things say about current events.

00:22:15.000 Now, they might mistakenly stumble upon something.

00:22:17.000 It's completely irrelevant what a third grader has to say.

00:22:20.000 And I always laugh.

00:22:21.000 There's a huge paradox, right?

00:22:22.000 Where they say, you know what?

00:22:24.000 We want you to have to be 21 years old to go buy an assault rifle, made up term, right?

00:22:28.000 But if you're 12 years old, you should be able to remove your breasts without parental consent and have a taxpayer funded.

00:22:34.000 Which one is it exactly?

00:22:35.000 Is it that you can't be able to own deadly weaponry?

00:22:38.000 Or should I be able to go into an operating room and make changes that are totally like horrific?

00:22:43.000 I can't even get into the words of this.

00:22:44.000 You might say, oh, Charlie, it's a fridge minority.

00:22:46.000 No, it's not.

00:22:48.000 This is growing in our literature, in our textbooks, in our propaganda.

00:22:52.000 And it's going down to such a level where six, seven, and eight-year-olds are now seeing these TikTok videos.

00:22:57.000 They're seeing this nonsensical garbage being thrown at them.

00:23:00.000 They say, well, maybe I'm a girl.

00:23:02.000 Maybe I'm a boy.

00:23:03.000 Now, if you look at the actual numbers, though, the vast majority of people that are coming out as trans are 12, 13, and 14-year-old girls.

00:23:10.000 What they're really probably experiencing is puberty anxiety, and they don't have proper mentors or guardianship or guiding parental saying, your body's changing.

00:23:20.000 I love you.

00:23:21.000 Let me guide you through this.

00:23:22.000 Instead, it's my body's changing.

00:23:24.000 Maybe I'm actually a man and I need to go on loop run.

00:23:27.000 And then you have an entire, in my opinion, predatory industry of some psychiatrist or some great in every position, but there's some awful psychiatrist where they say, well, I do gender-affirming care.

00:23:38.000 And I say, is that really the point of counseling to affirm somebody?

00:23:43.000 I thought the point is to get them better, not to confirm what's wrong with them.

00:23:48.000 For example, we don't allow anorexics to continue to be anorexic if it's going to make them die of starvation.

00:23:57.000 You don't allow someone's mental condition.

00:23:59.000 You don't play into it.

00:24:00.000 You challenge them towards what is true or good.

00:24:03.000 Or we do not allow agoraphobia, or hopefully not agoraphobics, people afraid to leave their home.

00:24:08.000 We try to challenge them.

00:24:09.000 And this is kind of the cognitive behavioral therapy approach, CBT, which is, you know what?

00:24:13.000 You're afraid of this.

00:24:14.000 Let's find out why.

00:24:16.000 And we're going to try to get you into a better place.

00:24:19.000 Instead, it's, you're afraid of it.

00:24:20.000 I'm going to make it so you never have to leave the home.

00:24:23.000 And so they have an entire industry built around that.

00:24:26.000 And then you have, of course, if you dare speak out against it, they call you all the worst names.

00:24:31.000 I don't care, and you shouldn't either.

00:24:32.000 This is the fight for our children.

00:24:34.000 And I know it's tempting because some people say, well, Charlie, these are very personal decisions.

00:24:39.000 In some cases, that's true.

00:24:41.000 But I think it's actually not that much anymore.

00:24:43.000 Of course, it's individually personal decisions.

00:24:45.000 But it's really more than any other time, a mass societal silence on this issue of if we're kind of endorsing what I believe to be the great mutilation of a generation where we're going to have hundreds of thousands of kids.

00:24:59.000 You look at some of these videos, and it will make you cry.

00:25:02.000 These young 19-year-old girls that had their breasts removed when they were 14 or 15 or 16, they say, so when are they going to grow back?

00:25:09.000 They say, and by the way, puberty is not like something you could press a button and then restart again.

00:25:14.000 And so that all goes back to what I said earlier.

00:25:17.000 What is science?

00:25:18.000 If you believe the human being is something that was beautifully designed for a purpose, you would be very careful going after a 14-year-old human being under an operating table to do something as horrific and barbaric as this.

00:25:32.000 It all comes back to what is a human being and what is science.

00:25:36.000 And so it's very tempting to want to talk about politics.

00:25:38.000 You guys could talk about it.

00:25:39.000 I'm actually not here to talk about it.

00:25:40.000 Again, I can answer any questions you have.

00:25:41.000 You know, nothing's off limit because politics is just a result of whether or not we win or lose the moral arguments before that.

00:25:47.000 And so when we allow this all to happen around us, we're always kind of workshopping somebody else's morality that is then implied here.

00:25:54.000 But let me tell you, in Kansas and Missouri, I just want to encourage you, if there's any place in America that should be an example of bold and courageous leadership when it comes to this stuff, I know the people in Kansas and Missouri are not going to put up with this stuff.

00:26:09.000 I hope your leaders agree with you.

00:26:15.000 And it goes from the textbooks to the curriculum to all the propaganda.

00:26:19.000 Okay.

00:26:20.000 And so to kind of put all this in closing together, I understand that it could be overwhelming if you dare speak about it.

00:26:26.000 I was talking to some medical students before.

00:26:27.000 They say, Charlie, it's worse than ever.

00:26:29.000 I can't speak out about any of this stuff.

00:26:30.000 I totally understand it.

00:26:31.000 I'm not here to try to have you be martyred or lose your job for whatever reason or purpose.

00:26:36.000 But I do want to consider that you will be happier and freer if you could be the same person in public that you are in private.

00:26:44.000 That's my heart for you, that you can be the same person in every circumstance.

00:26:48.000 Because that's the number one piece of feedback I receive from people is they say, Charlie, I wish I could be the same person at work that I am in private.

00:26:56.000 And that's not a free country.

00:26:58.000 And what's so amazing is that it actually transcends politics, isn't it?

00:27:03.000 Because there's not necessarily a law that says you can't be who you want to be in front of your friends.

00:27:07.000 No, that's cultural pressure.

00:27:09.000 That's bigger than politics, right?

00:27:11.000 And that's part of what we're trying to solve here now.

00:27:13.000 It's what turning point USA solves.

00:27:14.000 It's giving kids the intellectual ammunition, the confidence, the courage, the ability to respond to someone that says, actually, you know, I am a conservative.

00:27:21.000 And let me tell you why.

00:27:22.000 I believe that if we don't study history and understand human nature, really bad things can happen.

00:27:26.000 I believe America is the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:27:30.000 I believe the Constitution is the greatest political document ever written.

00:27:33.000 We know the states created the federal government and the federal government didn't create the states.

00:27:36.000 And I believe the people of Kansas know what they're doing a lot better than the people of Washington, D.C.

00:27:40.000 And I want to change that.

00:27:41.000 And we should be unafraid to say that.

00:27:44.000 Or Missouri, just to be fair.

00:27:47.000 I get it all confused.

00:27:49.000 You fly into Missouri and it's actually, it's in Kansas.

00:27:52.000 No, you fly into Kansas, but it's called Kansas, but you drive.

00:27:55.000 It's all very confusing.

00:27:56.000 But I have to, it's back and forth in this whole thing.

00:27:59.000 The airport's in Kansas, right?

00:28:01.000 No, it's not.

00:28:02.000 It's in Missouri.

00:28:03.000 See, this is how messed up I am.

00:28:06.000 We're in Kansas City, Missouri, for everyone watching on the live stream.

00:28:09.000 Okay.

00:28:11.000 And there's actually an interesting point about all that, though, which is what if everyone had their own definition of directions of what state you're in?

00:28:19.000 That's the trans thing.

00:28:20.000 It is.

00:28:21.000 If everyone had their own, the way you corrected me put me into alignment directionally and put me into alignment factually, that's society with proper guardrails.

00:28:32.000 What if everyone had their own truth of directions?

00:28:34.000 Nope, I'm actually in Kansas.

00:28:35.000 No, you're not in Missouri.

00:28:36.000 No, it's my truth.

00:28:37.000 I'm in, I'm there.

00:28:40.000 There's a lot of truth.

00:28:41.000 There's a lot of truth to that.

00:28:43.000 We teach a generation.

00:28:44.000 You can believe you're in Kansas even though in your Missouri.

00:28:48.000 That's the trans issue summarized.

00:28:50.000 All right, let's do some questions.

00:28:51.000 God bless you guys.

00:28:52.000 Let's line up for some questions.

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00:29:59.000 All right, so first off, I just personally want to thank you very much for being here.

00:30:03.000 It's an amazing opportunity for me, and I would assume for a lot of people here as well.

00:30:07.000 I would like to, secondly, congratulate you on your whole fatherhood.

00:30:10.000 You know, the newborn, that's, yeah, that's true.

00:30:13.000 Thank you.

00:30:16.000 And so, going off of that, I would just like to know, you know, you being a husband, a father, and a big political figure, it's like, how do you cope with like making all those things important in your life?

00:30:28.000 Yeah, well, thank you.

00:30:29.000 It's not a lot of sleep, but it's a lot of fun.

00:30:32.000 Two months today.

00:30:34.000 That's just amazing.

00:30:35.000 So we're very happy about that.

00:30:36.000 And so thank you.

00:30:38.000 And I'll tell you what, it radicalizes you.

00:30:41.000 It does.

00:30:42.000 If you think you're a conservative before parenthood, holy moly.

00:30:45.000 That's why I can't understand.

00:30:46.000 I cannot understand liberal parents.

00:30:49.000 At this point, I have nothing in common with you.

00:30:54.000 Liberal young people that are single, you want to burn the world down, you're miserable and do weed all day fine.

00:30:58.000 So I sort of understand.

00:31:00.000 You have a being that you are now responsible for, and you want to commit civilizational arson, nothing in common with you.

00:31:07.000 So anyway, that's a separate thing.

00:31:09.000 So you mentioned a lot, which is I'm a big fan of Aristotle.

00:31:12.000 Aristotle talked about a hierarchy of the good.

00:31:14.000 When you have a lot going on, this is a good rule for young people.

00:31:16.000 You got to make a hierarchy of what matters most, and you got to prioritize that thing over other things, which means by definition, other things are going to slip aside.

00:31:24.000 And then, kind of part of marriage and also fatherhood, of which I'm very new at, but learning very quickly, but you know, marriage a year and a half, you realize it's not all about you.

00:31:34.000 And this is one of the great, I just, I hate the self-love movement.

00:31:37.000 I hate the self-esteem movement.

00:31:39.000 It's done so much damage.

00:31:40.000 I think it's one of the great philosophical carcinogens in our society in so many different ways.

00:31:45.000 I saw this sign the other day.

00:31:47.000 They said, it's your imperfections that make you perfect.

00:31:51.000 And I thought to myself, I said, well, then therefore, by definition, the more imperfections you have, the better you are.

00:31:58.000 Or my favorite one is: the world is better because you're in it.

00:32:01.000 Now, that might sound like a good message, but in reality, it should be a question.

00:32:06.000 Is the world better because you're in it?

00:32:10.000 Right?

00:32:13.000 And so it should be a question.

00:32:16.000 Has the world become a better place because of you?

00:32:18.000 Now, so the idea of a hierarchy of what matters most is not taught a lot to our kids.

00:32:24.000 There's a big lie out there that you could have it all.

00:32:27.000 And that's not true.

00:32:29.000 You can't.

00:32:29.000 You have to make sacrifices.

00:32:31.000 You could still do a lot.

00:32:32.000 You could still run a business and you could still do things.

00:32:35.000 But you have to make time for what matters most, which the first most important thing is your relationship with God.

00:32:39.000 That comes above all.

00:32:40.000 And then relationship with your wife and then your child.

00:32:43.000 You notice I put it in that order.

00:32:45.000 That's biblical, by the way.

00:32:47.000 And getting a lot of great advice from people like Prager and Tucker and so many other great people that the marriage comes first and then children come first, which is not agreed upon in every circle, but at least that's how we're practicing it.

00:32:58.000 And then you could have other things like jobs and all that, you know, jobs and that.

00:33:01.000 But I think one of the reasons why we have such a depressed generation, suicidal generation, we have such an anxious generation, a medicated generation, is they're thinking about themselves all the time.

00:33:12.000 I believe a people that is not dedicated to service is a very depressed people.

00:33:17.000 It's not always about you.

00:33:19.000 Sometimes you have to do stuff you don't like because it's going to benefit somebody else.

00:33:23.000 By the way, we just know that scientifically you're a happier person because of that.

00:33:26.000 We know that, regardless of the spiritual implications or the moral implications.

00:33:30.000 And so we have an entire generation that's always asking, how do you feel?

00:33:33.000 How do you feel about that?

00:33:34.000 It's actually quite irrelevant.

00:33:35.000 It matters more about what you're doing.

00:33:37.000 And here's a thought-provoking thing for you.

00:33:39.000 Generally, what you do should dictate how you feel, not how you feel with what you do.

00:33:46.000 That's a good general rule to tell a young person.

00:33:48.000 Another good rule for life, which is self-control is a lot more important than self-esteem.

00:33:54.000 But we do the opposite.

00:33:55.000 Thank you.

00:34:02.000 Go ahead.

00:34:05.000 Welcome to Kansas City.

00:34:08.000 I just want to.

00:34:08.000 Thank you.

00:34:10.000 I'm a big fan, and we're glad you're here.

00:34:14.000 My question is: have you tried our barbecue?

00:34:18.000 I did, and it's awesome.

00:34:19.000 Very impressed.

00:34:23.000 Lived up to the hype, I got to tell you.

00:34:25.000 For years, I heard Texas versus Kansas City, Texas versus Kansas City.

00:34:29.000 It's very, very good.

00:34:30.000 I'm not going to tell you who's better, but it's very, very good.

00:34:33.000 That was going to be my follow-up question.

00:34:35.000 Oh, yeah, is that right?

00:34:36.000 I take the fifth.

00:34:38.000 Thank you.

00:34:42.000 Hello.

00:34:51.000 Look what you did here.

00:34:52.000 No, I'm kidding.

00:34:53.000 Sorry about that.

00:34:54.000 No, it's 100% my fault.

00:34:56.000 I don't know what that was.

00:34:56.000 My bad.

00:34:57.000 All right.

00:34:58.000 Here's my question.

00:34:59.000 So you think there are two genders.

00:35:02.000 Okay.

00:35:03.000 But the definition of gender, although it's incredibly hard to define, is basically how I feel towards my biological sex.

00:35:10.000 But in theory, I can feel an infinite amount of ways about my biological sex.

00:35:14.000 So in theory, there are like an infinite amount of genders.

00:35:17.000 But you say there's only two.

00:35:18.000 So, A, I don't think that makes a whole lot of sense.

00:35:21.000 Secondly, you also, every time you use the word gender, you could replace it with the word sex every single time.

00:35:28.000 Also, you say we shouldn't concede linguistic ground to the left, but you use the word gender constantly in discourse.

00:35:35.000 To me, it seems like you just don't think gender exists, or at the very least, has no epistemic credibility in public discourse.

00:35:42.000 So, why do you concede that linguistic ground if you basically don't think it exists logically?

00:35:48.000 Okay, yeah, I think gender and sex are interchangeable words.

00:35:51.000 They're exactly the same thing.

00:35:53.000 So, I mean, do you agree with that?

00:35:56.000 Oh, yeah, I totally agree with that.

00:35:58.000 Oh, okay, cool.

00:35:58.000 So, you believe there's two genders, two sexes.

00:36:00.000 So, yeah, you probably make a good point.

00:36:02.000 I see what you're saying here: is that why even use the word gender at all?

00:36:05.000 Yeah, I mean, colloquially, it's used a lot in society.

00:36:08.000 I also think it's a way to kind of draw the line against the transgender movement because they've intentionally kind of gone on to that social word gender, of which is a new age postmodern term that really did not exist prior to the 1970s, 1980s.

00:36:22.000 So, I think you actually make a pretty good point about seeding ground, but the intent is that I believe gender and sex are directly related.

00:36:30.000 Thank you.

00:36:31.000 Appreciate it.

00:36:38.000 Hey, so I am a sophomore here in credits, but first year, like actually on campus.

00:36:43.000 And so, being a first-year student, I'm required to take this first semester experience class.

00:36:49.000 And so, right, thanks.

00:36:51.000 Yeah, so right now, our unit is about social justice.

00:36:55.000 And I've got this assignment due on later this week.

00:37:00.000 And so, one of the questions is, what does social justice mean to you?

00:37:03.000 And what are important components of social justice?

00:37:06.000 So, how do I go about completing this assignment while still maintaining my conservative and Christian values?

00:37:11.000 What kind of grade do you want to get in the class?

00:37:17.000 I'm very serious.

00:37:19.000 I would, you know, college education is a very important part of me, but I wouldn't let that supersede my political or religious values.

00:37:30.000 So, you developed a hierarchy.

00:37:34.000 That's what you just did, right?

00:37:35.000 So, you just said this matters more than that.

00:37:38.000 And so, if you want to go after it, you could say, look, I believe in the ancient view of justice that built the West.

00:37:44.000 I don't believe in environmental justice or racial justice or social justice.

00:37:48.000 And you could go straight into how Aristotle defined justice.

00:37:50.000 It is the messiest of all the virtues, but one of the most necessary.

00:37:53.000 And it's very simple: giving man to what is due.

00:37:55.000 Social justice is not that.

00:37:57.000 Social justice is mass redistribution based on qualities of things people can't change.

00:38:03.000 So justice has a preference on human agency and action.

00:38:07.000 You did this, you get that.

00:38:09.000 Social justice is you look like this, therefore this should happen to you.

00:38:14.000 So social justice, and I'm generalizing and people can disagree with it throughout, but this is approximately right.

00:38:19.000 Social justice is a preference on structures and I think arbitrary iniquities.

00:38:24.000 Saying you're a person of color, therefore you deserve reparations.

00:38:28.000 Of course, they can't answer a single question in response to, okay, what if someone is half black and half white?

00:38:32.000 How are they going to get reparations exactly?

00:38:35.000 Or why is it that someone who's never owned slaves, that didn't know someone that owns slaves, that wasn't related to someone that owns slaves, has to pay money to somebody who we can't even prove whether or not they're a descendant of slaves?

00:38:45.000 Why is that the case exactly?

00:38:46.000 Oh, because of the melanin content.

00:38:48.000 That's where social justice leads you.

00:38:49.000 So then I would respond again, depending on what kind of grade you want to get, is say, liberty matters a lot more to me than social justice.

00:38:57.000 And then you might have to retake the course at a different time.

00:39:00.000 So God bless you.

00:39:06.000 Hello.

00:39:07.000 So from your talk, I gathered that a big problem you have is the government representing the will of the people, and you believe it should do a better job at that, correct?

00:39:16.000 If you say that, how can you support Donald Trump when he has lost the popular vote twice?

00:39:22.000 Because we don't elect presidents using the popular vote.

00:39:29.000 It'll follow.

00:39:30.000 Yes, but you said you have an issue with the government not representing the will of the people.

00:39:36.000 So if you personally have an issue with that, then why do you support him if that is not the will of the people?

00:39:41.000 Right.

00:39:41.000 So will and majority are two different things.

00:39:45.000 Right?

00:39:45.000 So are we a democracy?

00:39:50.000 You're not here.

00:39:50.000 Are we a democracy?

00:39:52.000 Should we be?

00:39:53.000 No, but are we?

00:39:55.000 Why should we not be?

00:39:56.000 Is that not a core fundamental point of American society?

00:40:00.000 No.

00:40:01.000 Has democracy appeared anywhere in the Constitution?

00:40:09.000 I mean, that is genuinely a valid point.

00:40:12.000 However, your point of the government should represent the people, why is it that democracy is not in the Constitution?

00:40:23.000 Or why is it that you believe that the will of the majority is not as important as the will of the minority if your issue specifically is the government should represent the people better?

00:40:35.000 Good question.

00:40:36.000 So we believe in the Electoral College.

00:40:38.000 Why?

00:40:39.000 Because Kansas deserves a voice.

00:40:42.000 Because Missouri deserves a voice.

00:40:43.000 And it's the most important way I could distill it: the union we have is the states created it.

00:40:51.000 The federal government didn't create it.

00:40:53.000 So the kind of price of admission is every state gets two senators, congressmen based on population, and then electoral votes based on that population.

00:41:03.000 So you kind of get a mix of both.

00:41:04.000 And it's also this tension.

00:41:06.000 And I would ask the question: if we abolished the Electoral College, do you think that the needs, wants, and interests of Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, North, South Dakota, Montana would be taken as seriously as New York and California?

00:41:21.000 That would be my question to you.

00:41:23.000 Do you believe that some citizens are more valuable than others?

00:41:28.000 Because in our current system, some people's votes hold more sway than others, because people in like Wyoming, who have smaller populations, have more say than places like here in Missouri and Kansas.

00:41:38.000 Why is this acceptable if it's, again, your issue is the will of the people?

00:41:43.000 Because we're not a democracy.

00:41:44.000 So a democracy is simple majoritarianism.

00:41:47.000 So let me give you an example.

00:41:48.000 In a democracy, by up or down vote, you could say, I want to enslave black people.

00:41:53.000 A constitutional republic says, no, you're going to have to go through a process to do that.

00:41:58.000 So let me ask you a question.

00:41:59.000 Do you think the majority at the will of the people could ever be wrong?

00:42:04.000 Yes.

00:42:04.000 Okay.

00:42:05.000 So the founding fathers knew it could almost assuredly be wrong, right?

00:42:08.000 So the system of a republic versus a democracy has to be slow and arduous and intentional because it has a preference on liberty, right, not on free stuff.

00:42:19.000 And so over a period of time, how do you best protect liberty?

00:42:23.000 Well, you got to spread over all the representation over space and time, right?

00:42:27.000 So you do it over a lot of states, a lot of square miles, a lot of acreage, and it takes a lot of time to take over the federal government, right?

00:42:35.000 You have to win an election and then an election and election.

00:42:38.000 It's not impossible.

00:42:39.000 We eradicated slavery.

00:42:40.000 We gave women the right to vote.

00:42:42.000 So it's possible to get change done.

00:42:44.000 But the founding fathers were less concerned about getting progress done really quickly, and they were more concerned with the government doing bad stuff too quickly.

00:42:52.000 Does that make sense?

00:42:55.000 But that is not what you said.

00:42:56.000 You said that your specific problem is the government does not do the will of the people.

00:43:01.000 Why is it that your will and what you want is more important than that of the majority?

00:43:05.000 Well, it's not my will.

00:43:06.000 It's the framers and the system we have.

00:43:09.000 But to answer your question, I believe the best way to determine the will of the people is through states' rights and states' directives.

00:43:16.000 If Kansas wants to say, hey, we can have decentralized gun laws or school choice, God bless Kansas.

00:43:22.000 And so the question is not, it's national will also versus state will, right?

00:43:27.000 So, we have to recognize that the values of someone in Kansas, in Manhattan, Kansas, is a lot different than the values of someone in Manhattan, New York.

00:43:35.000 It's a lot different.

00:43:36.000 And so, through a democracy, it'd say, hey, the people of New York City want to have firearms confiscated.

00:43:45.000 I don't know how, I don't think that dog's going to hunt in Manhattan, Kansas.

00:43:48.000 Well, Kansas State University, so I don't know.

00:43:51.000 But it allows, answer your question, it allows people that disagree with one another to live in the same nation.

00:43:59.000 You see, a Republican-style government, small R, allows people that might agree on almost nothing to still engage in self-government while still having a national project to participate in.

00:44:09.000 So, to clarify it even more, it is a question of the consent to the governed.

00:44:13.000 If it was just a democracy, it would be an up or down vote on every single person, and that's it.

00:44:18.000 The founding fathers saw that fail time and time again.

00:44:22.000 Athenian democracy.

00:44:23.000 People just vote themselves stuff.

00:44:24.000 So, they said, we have to have some sort of system that realizes that if men were angels, government would not be necessary, but men are not angels, so we got to create some sort of government.

00:44:33.000 Federalist 51, as Madison said.

00:44:34.000 So, we got to figure this out.

00:44:36.000 So, government is necessary, but we don't want to have too big a government, and people are just going to vote themselves stuff all the time.

00:44:41.000 So, how do we do that?

00:44:42.000 Well, local is better than national, but you got to have some sort of a national influence.

00:44:46.000 And so, they created the great balance between Jeffersonian and Hamiltonian-type philosophy, as we know, is the U.S. Constitution.

00:44:53.000 And the one thing they all agreed on, though, is human nature.

00:44:56.000 They knew that absolute power corrupts absolutely and that people were likely to abuse it.

00:45:01.000 So, I would just kind of counter by saying the will of the people can be best expressed through a multi-state project.

00:45:08.000 For example, I believe an election is much healthier and much more representative by requiring candidates to go to Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and not just spending time on the coast.

00:45:22.000 Because you know why?

00:45:23.000 It might seem as if, oh, we don't need those flyover states.

00:45:26.000 We don't need them.

00:45:26.000 First of all, that's arrogant, prideful, and wrong.

00:45:29.000 How exactly are you going to feed your family, and where do you think the breadbasket of the world comes from?

00:45:33.000 The founders saw ahead.

00:45:34.000 And the final thing I'll say is this: it was Hamilton or it was Madison that said, we cannot have the tyranny of the cities over the farmers.

00:45:44.000 And that's built into our system.

00:45:46.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:45:47.000 I got to get to the next question.

00:45:48.000 Thank you.

00:45:49.000 So, you believe your vote should be more important than others?

00:45:53.000 No, I don't.

00:45:54.000 In fact, if you want, first of all, the way you do senators is egalitarian.

00:45:57.000 The way you do congresspeople is representative population.

00:46:01.000 And let me just reinforce this: which, again, California still has more electoral votes than Kansas.

00:46:06.000 So there is a precedent.

00:46:07.000 There is a weight on population.

00:46:08.000 It's just done in the context of that every state gets a voice.

00:46:12.000 For example, Kansas, South Dakota, Oklahoma don't get merged in just because they all look the same from an airplane you're flying by.

00:46:19.000 It's a state with states' rights, its own government, its own constitution.

00:46:22.000 So to push back, it's not as if population means nothing, is that population is factored in to a national project.

00:46:28.000 And I'll just say one final thing on states.

00:46:30.000 You go through COVID, Europe, they had one decree.

00:46:34.000 Every part of Germany, Belgium, France, the same thing.

00:46:38.000 These laboratories of democracy that continually happened keep us freer.

00:46:45.000 And you have a state rights project or you have a national project.

00:46:48.000 The state's rights project has kept us freer, has helped people more prosperous.

00:46:53.000 Because if you don't like your government, you're closer to it and you can make changes and adjustments.

00:46:56.000 Thank you.

00:46:57.000 Got to get to the next question.

00:46:58.000 Thank you.

00:46:58.000 Got to get to the, I'm sorry.

00:46:59.000 I got to get to the.

00:47:00.000 Thank you.

00:47:02.000 Thank you.

00:47:03.000 I got to get to the next question.

00:47:05.000 Why are some votes in order to make them?

00:47:07.000 I heard you out.

00:47:08.000 Thank you very much.

00:47:10.000 That's not the question.

00:47:12.000 More votes.

00:47:14.000 So, hey, do you live in Kansas or Missouri?

00:47:16.000 It doesn't matter why you're not.

00:47:18.000 Because guess what?

00:47:18.000 In Kansas, you actually have a bigger voice than some people in California.

00:47:22.000 Hilariously.

00:47:24.000 Because states have rights.

00:47:28.000 I got to get to the next question, but I don't think you're hearing what I'm saying.

00:47:31.000 Thank you very much.

00:47:32.000 You cannot judge it by your mentality.

00:47:35.000 Thank you very much.

00:47:35.000 Got to get to the next question.

00:47:40.000 What is your opinion on the suicidality rates of trans youth?

00:47:44.000 And what is your opinion on the drop that occurs in trans suicidality when they're accepted by their families?

00:47:51.000 Yeah, it goes up after about five or seven years.

00:47:54.000 Look, trans people are suffering from serious mental condition, gender dysphoria.

00:47:59.000 Let them talk.

00:48:00.000 What's not true?

00:48:01.000 The mental condition part?

00:48:04.000 It is different, but it's not.

00:48:06.000 What is gender dysphoria?

00:48:10.000 It's like the concern that you feel over the dysphoria.

00:48:14.000 It's like a body dysphoria related to the disconnect you feel between your mental state and how you feel about your body.

00:48:23.000 Right.

00:48:23.000 So it's a mental issue, right?

00:48:25.000 Yes.

00:48:26.000 Okay, so, right.

00:48:27.000 So people that are suffering from gender dysphoria have a mental condition, and I hope they get help.

00:48:33.000 Yeah, but this is, that's kind of like the same logic with conversion therapy, right?

00:48:40.000 Well, what about it?

00:48:42.000 Because you think there's something fundamentally wrong.

00:48:45.000 Well, I do think there's something fundamentally wrong with a 14-year-old girl who thinks they're a boy, yes.

00:48:49.000 That's...

00:48:50.000 Okay, why?

00:48:52.000 Well, because their chromosomes aren't in alignment with the fantasy in their head.

00:48:58.000 But why?

00:48:59.000 Why is that a problem?

00:49:00.000 Well, because your imagination doesn't determine your reality.

00:49:04.000 But no, no, no.

00:49:05.000 But how does wearing a dress instead of a suit to prom hurting anyone?

00:49:12.000 Okay, that's a separate question.

00:49:13.000 No, that's what gender is, though.

00:49:15.000 Oh, hold on a second.

00:49:16.000 Which question do you want me to keep the mic there so we can gender and sex are two different things?

00:49:20.000 We can.

00:49:21.000 Wrong.

00:49:22.000 Actually, actually, they're correlated.

00:49:24.000 They're correlated.

00:49:25.000 And there is, there is a, it's bimodal.

00:49:29.000 So let me ask you a question.

00:49:29.000 No, Can someone pick their minds?

00:49:32.000 I want you to answer my question.

00:49:33.000 Well, which one?

00:49:34.000 How does someone wearing a dress affect someone at prom?

00:49:37.000 If you let me finish.

00:49:38.000 Which one?

00:49:39.000 I can pick four questions.

00:49:40.000 All right.

00:49:43.000 It's more helpful for you, isn't it, right?

00:49:45.000 To think of gender and sex separately.

00:49:49.000 Socially.

00:49:50.000 Like if you're just talking and you refer to sex as one thing and gender as another, it's more helpful because there's nothing, there's no connection between, no direct connection between a dress and chromosomes, right?

00:50:04.000 So if you were to talk to someone about gender, why is it hurt some?

00:50:09.000 Why is it bad to wear a dress when, like, if I was to wear a dress to prom with my boyfriend, then why would that be a bad thing?

00:50:18.000 Got it.

00:50:18.000 Okay.

00:50:18.000 Because I have a Y chromosome.

00:50:21.000 Okay.

00:50:21.000 So why is it a bad thing?

00:50:23.000 Okay, I'll go through the list.

00:50:24.000 Well, number one, I don't think I should entertain something that is not true.

00:50:30.000 And that's a bad precedent for all of humanity.

00:50:33.000 And if you all of a sudden want to appropriate womanhood, you can't let me.

00:50:37.000 Let me finish.

00:50:38.000 Hold on.

00:50:38.000 I'm sorry.

00:50:39.000 You can't prove gender.

00:50:40.000 You can't prove the existence of gender.

00:50:42.000 Let me just talk about that.

00:50:42.000 You can't prove the existence of gender.

00:50:44.000 Let me say this.

00:50:45.000 You can't empirically measure.

00:50:46.000 You are using.

00:50:48.000 Thank you.

00:50:49.000 You're using a definition of gender and sex that is rather a new phenomenon.

00:50:55.000 Gender and sex are directly related.

00:50:57.000 So let me ask you a question.

00:50:58.000 Do you believe you could pick your pronouns?

00:51:01.000 Yes.

00:51:02.000 Do you believe you could pick your adjectives?

00:51:04.000 Yes.

00:51:06.000 You could choose different adjectives.

00:51:08.000 So I could be small.

00:51:11.000 I could be strong.

00:51:12.000 I could be rich.

00:51:13.000 I could be smart just by my own imagination?

00:51:16.000 It's a matter of social utility.

00:51:19.000 Okay, so what do you think determines reality?

00:51:23.000 You can empirically measure someone's chromosomes, but you can't empirically measure how much of a man or a woman someone is.

00:51:29.000 So, what makes something more manly versus more feminine?

00:51:34.000 There's no testosterone, estrogen, muscle mass size, proclivity towards emotional distress.

00:51:40.000 But you can change those.

00:51:43.000 I'm sorry?

00:51:45.000 You can change levels of testosterone and estrogen or androgen levels.

00:51:49.000 Yeah, you could suppress artificially and put things in.

00:51:53.000 You could also remove critical body parts.

00:51:57.000 There's a lot of things you could do that are not right.

00:52:00.000 Okay.

00:52:02.000 So that's more of an.

00:52:04.000 I'm a moral anti-realist.

00:52:05.000 So the point of that is that you can't, like, as long as it's someone's choice.

00:52:13.000 If you're, I think you need to wait until you're 18 probably to do a lot of gender-affirming surgeries.

00:52:19.000 But things like puberty blockers are actually really helpful because they can be reversed later on in life.

00:52:24.000 Yes, they can.

00:52:25.000 So you realize that's a chemical castration of children, right?

00:52:30.000 You can avoid that.

00:52:32.000 That doesn't happen.

00:52:33.000 They're safe.

00:52:34.000 They've been used since the 70s to help people through.

00:52:36.000 We're having stressful periods.

00:52:39.000 That's not true.

00:52:40.000 That is true.

00:52:41.000 You can't press pause on puberty.

00:52:43.000 The amount of drug.

00:52:46.000 That is the purpose of the drug.

00:52:48.000 Yeah, so then why would there be 30,000 people that regret transitioning and want to detransition that we know of?

00:52:54.000 And that list growing in great numbers.

00:52:56.000 And how do you explain suicide rates going up seven to eight years after the boost of testosterone when young people they get Lupron, they get puberty blockers, then seven, eight years later, the suicide rates go up dramatically?

00:53:08.000 How do you explain that?

00:53:09.000 I know what you're referring to.

00:53:11.000 That has to do with people being forced to detransition and the social pressure that occurs as a result of it.

00:53:17.000 The problem with transcripture, there's never been more transgender propaganda in the history of the species.

00:53:26.000 You can't walk into a Starbucks without seeing, you see the trans flag more than the American flag.

00:53:33.000 What social pressure is there on a trans person?

00:53:39.000 It's really different where I grew up.

00:53:43.000 I didn't grow up in a city.

00:53:45.000 It's rough sometimes.

00:53:47.000 Okay.

00:53:47.000 Well, if by rough you mean people love the truth enough, truth enough to tell a 15-year-old you're not actually a man or not actually a woman, I would not consider that rough, but I mean, you can have your own definition.

00:53:59.000 But let me just close by saying this, which is, what do you think determines reality?

00:54:05.000 Well, okay, well, okay, so your friends have been attacked?

00:54:09.000 Because of their identities.

00:54:10.000 Yeah, same.

00:54:12.000 Yeah.

00:54:21.000 So, okay.

00:54:22.000 Do I create a mass movement trying to tell people to feel sorry for me all the time?

00:54:28.000 Yeah, because, I mean, sure, if you want a few people to be sorry for you, I don't want your friends to get hurt.

00:54:34.000 Nor do I want your friends to get hurt.

00:54:36.000 But your rhetoric encourages that.

00:54:38.000 No, hold on.

00:54:39.000 Yes, it does.

00:54:40.000 Hold on.

00:54:41.000 The best way.

00:54:42.000 Okay.

00:54:43.000 All right.

00:54:43.000 Okay.

00:54:44.000 The best way to help people.

00:54:46.000 Let me just, I think, maybe we've got to find some agreement here.

00:54:49.000 A general rule for life.

00:54:50.000 Do you think the best way to help people, if you know, hold on, put the mic up in a second.

00:54:57.000 It's the best way to help people to lie to them or tell them the truth.

00:55:02.000 You need to tell them the truth.

00:55:04.000 I agree.

00:55:05.000 We should tell young boys that are suffering from gender dysphoria or young girls that are suffering from gender dysphoria that you're not going into an operating room and we love you enough to tell you the truth to get you back into alignment on how God created you.

00:55:18.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:55:20.000 Thank you.

00:55:20.000 Nope, next question.

00:55:21.000 Thank you.

00:55:26.000 Thank you.

00:55:27.000 Why don't he stop?

00:55:29.000 Thanks for being here.

00:55:38.000 The tolerant left strikes again.

00:55:41.000 How are you doing, sir?

00:55:42.000 Good.

00:55:43.000 So, Nori, I want you to make it.

00:55:46.000 By the way, was that not a fast reaction time?

00:55:48.000 That was very impressive.

00:55:56.000 So, I'm a senior in high school, and right now, my board of education is trying, seriously considering the movement to allow trans people or whatever gender they identify with to use that gender-specific bathroom in my school.

00:56:11.000 So, I'm just trying to figure out what point do we need to have it stop, or what points can you give me to go to the board of education, actually, like rebound against what they're trying to say.

00:56:21.000 Yeah, that's great, man.

00:56:23.000 God bless you.

00:56:25.000 Look, I want to be very clear because I don't want to come across as cruel, but we do not reorganize society based on people's mental conditions, nor should we, okay?

00:56:37.000 We should give people care, and care is not affirmation.

00:56:40.000 Care is someone who's willing to tell the truth and challenge them back into what we know to be a flourishing, productive, and happy life.

00:56:47.000 So, if there is somebody that is a boy that thinks that he is a girl and they want to say they want to have locker room access or whatever, well, then I would point to Loudoun County, Virginia, where a boy who thought he was a girl went into the locker room and twice raped a young lady.

00:57:03.000 Twice.

00:57:03.000 That's one example of several that happened across the country.

00:57:06.000 But here's the one thing, and just to respond to the previous question in a separate way, he says, Well, what difference does it make for you?

00:57:12.000 And this is one of the most, this is the traps conservatives fall in all the time, which is as if this entire movement stops just acceptance.

00:57:21.000 That's nonsense.

00:57:22.000 So, first they ask you to tolerate it, then they ask you to accept it, then they ask you to participate, and then they ask you to celebrate it.

00:57:29.000 No, celebrate, then participation.

00:57:31.000 I'll give you an example.

00:57:32.000 In Oregon, no, it was Vermont.

00:57:34.000 It was Vermont.

00:57:34.000 I'm sorry.

00:57:35.000 In Vermont, there was a woman's sports team, I think it was volleyball or basketball, where a man who thought he was a woman got locker room access.

00:57:44.000 He started to harass the young ladies on the sports team.

00:57:47.000 And by doing so, the young ladies then started to complain, saying, I'm uncomfortable with this man.

00:57:53.000 Can you do something about it?

00:57:55.000 The administration said the young ladies were being transphobic, even though he was dressing nakedly in a locker room next to other young ladies.

00:58:05.000 They are now in probation and investigation for being transphobic because they don't accept the naked young man in the locker room because they're not tolerant enough to suck it up, even though a young man harasses them because they don't like being yelled at when they're getting changed in our locker room.

00:58:23.000 So, let me just kind of put aside any of the name callings you care.

00:58:26.000 As you can see, I don't care, and you shouldn't either.

00:58:29.000 There is nothing they could call me, and I hope you, that will make me stop from having young men go into locker rooms and be predators towards our young girls.

00:58:39.000 There's nothing you could possibly do to me.

00:58:41.000 Nothing.

00:58:42.000 And this is also the great lie in like this kind of like we have to have everyone hear their own truth and like all this nonsense is that we end up, we, those of us that believe in normal, basic Western values, having to change all of our customs, all of our language, all of our behavior for a hyper minority.

00:59:06.000 And it happens because they prey on our great intentions.

00:59:10.000 Because deep down, I think a lot of us want what's best.

00:59:13.000 We love people, right?

00:59:15.000 But stop being so naive.

00:59:16.000 That's not what's happening anymore.

00:59:18.000 It's not about loving people and accepting them.

00:59:21.000 It's about changing your behavior so that they can exert control over you.

00:59:24.000 That you have to have the right banner or you have to have the right flag in your yard or the right pronoun.

00:59:29.000 Like, I'm not going to put up with it anymore.

00:59:30.000 So, all of that to say, advice for you.

00:59:33.000 Just come after it from a perspective of protecting those that can't protect themselves.

00:59:37.000 There are multiple documented cases of men that go into female locker rooms.

00:59:41.000 And the best answer is this.

00:59:43.000 I've never heard a response to this.

00:59:44.000 If a man thinks he's a woman, why can't he continue to change in the men's locker room?

00:59:50.000 He can identify as a unicorn, a dolphin, or whatever.

00:59:53.000 Why does he need a new locker room exactly?

00:59:56.000 How is that relevant?

00:59:57.000 They say, oh, well, because of his mental health.

00:59:59.000 Answer.

00:59:59.000 Okay, we don't all starve ourselves at lunch because someone is trying to lose weight.

01:00:06.000 We don't mass accommodate society because one person has a problem.

01:00:13.000 It's insane.

01:00:14.000 And we got to stop putting up with it because, and I'll say this, tolerance is no longer a virtue in America.

01:00:20.000 I refuse to be tolerant of evil.

01:00:23.000 And I ask you to join me in that.

01:00:24.000 Thank you.

01:00:27.000 If anyone disagrees, you guys can come to the front.

01:00:31.000 We're going to keep going for a little bit.

01:00:33.000 Hey, Charlotte, thanks for coming out to Kansas City.

01:00:35.000 So I'm on the Kansas side.

01:00:36.000 And as you're aware, we just recently lost a big abortion amendment.

01:00:41.000 And so besides it being written very poorly, in my opinion, there's a lot of outside media, outside money to get that vote swayed to a no and not a yes.

01:00:51.000 Could you speak to that and any advice for us pro-lifers to protect the unborn?

01:00:55.000 Thank you.

01:00:56.000 Yeah, keep the fight, first of all.

01:00:58.000 Look, I think a couple dynamics with this.

01:01:00.000 I think it was poorly written.

01:01:01.000 I think there was a lot of confusion.

01:01:03.000 I asked my Kansas audience, and I got a lot of emails of people that said they voted correctly, but a lot of their friends were confused.

01:01:10.000 I know probably some of you on the Kansas side probably agree it was poorly written.

01:01:13.000 That's number one.

01:01:14.000 Number two, I think there was a massive amount of kind of Democrat out of state money and left-wing money post-Dobbs.

01:01:21.000 But number three is something that I say as someone who's 100% pro-life and talk about it, and I speak at pro-life centers all the time, is I don't think parts of the conservative movement are as pro-life as we think they are.

01:01:33.000 And that's not an accusation.

01:01:35.000 Maybe you're in the audience and that might be your position.

01:01:37.000 That's fine.

01:01:38.000 But I'm also, I refuse to live under this delusion that everyone on the right is 100% pro-life.

01:01:45.000 That's not true.

01:01:46.000 And so politics is one thing.

01:01:48.000 We got a lot of work to do to explain what it means to be a human being, when human life begins, and why those human beings are necessary and worthy of protection.

01:01:57.000 Now, I could be wrong.

01:01:59.000 We're going to learn a lot in the pro-life movement in the next couple of weeks.

01:02:02.000 Both Kentucky and Montana have very similar measures.

01:02:08.000 If they fail there, we're going to learn even more.

01:02:11.000 And so it should be kind of instructive to us of how pro-life actually are the states that we live in.

01:02:17.000 And we got a lot of work to do.

01:02:18.000 And I think there's a lot of fear-mongering.

01:02:20.000 There's a lot of, you know, I think bad moral teaching that comes alongside of it.

01:02:26.000 But look how far the pro-life movement has come.

01:02:29.000 A loss in Kansas because of a ballot referendum, like that's that's small.

01:02:33.000 You guys will get reorganized.

01:02:34.000 You guys will lick your wounds.

01:02:36.000 You guys will figure it out.

01:02:37.000 We got Roe versus Wade repealed.

01:02:39.000 I mean, come on.

01:02:44.000 That's huge.

01:02:46.000 And so we got a lot of work to do.

01:02:48.000 I think we got a lot of explaining to do, a lot of persuading to do, a lot of persistence, but I'm optimistic, man.

01:02:53.000 I really am.

01:02:54.000 And, you know, I want to say that the pro-life movement needs to, of course, talk about solutions and adoption and creating a culture of life and making it easier to adopt in the correct way with the right clearinghouses so that bad people don't adopt kids and abuse them.

01:03:08.000 That's a very serious concern, which was the good intent behind the bad policy that made the adoptive industry adoptive process, I should say, so bureaucratic and cumbersome.

01:03:18.000 Good intention ended up being a multi-year just thicket.

01:03:21.000 I know some of you have adopted, and it's very difficult, right?

01:03:23.000 I don't know how it is in Kansas, but I know in most states it's very, very hard, very bureaucratic, very arduous.

01:03:28.000 I think if you run it through the church, it's one of the best ways to do it.

01:03:31.000 And I think it's a way to streamline it and have a clearinghouse.

01:03:35.000 So keep the fight.

01:03:36.000 It is the fight that I think will define all the others.

01:03:39.000 But we've made so much progress.

01:03:40.000 We were told our whole life that it's inevitable that everyone's going to support abortion.

01:03:44.000 Now, even the media admits a 50-50 issue.

01:03:46.000 You understand how big of a deal that is?

01:03:47.000 Do you know by public opinion polls, we are noticeably more pro-life than we were 20 years ago?

01:03:52.000 That's awesome.

01:03:54.000 And so at this trajectory, we're going to have even more victories.

01:03:56.000 God bless you, man.

01:03:57.000 And I'm from Texas, and then Kansas City Barbecue is better.

01:03:57.000 Appreciate it.

01:04:00.000 Okay, all right.

01:04:08.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:04:09.000 Hi.

01:04:10.000 So I think this might be more of a point of clarification than a legitimate disagreement.

01:04:14.000 So you started off your talk by saying that you oppose science insofar as it stands in the way of nature or it sort of rewrites nature, right?

01:04:22.000 Is that like an accurate representation of your point?

01:04:26.000 It can cause a lot of damage and not done under the proper moral framework.

01:04:32.000 It's been one of the great killers of modern humanity.

01:04:35.000 Obviously with, you know, there's been phenomenal breakthroughs in modern medicine.

01:04:40.000 But continue with your question.

01:04:41.000 That was actually my question, actually.

01:04:42.000 Okay, well, there you go.

01:04:43.000 So, yeah, I mean, you could take, for example, so let's kind of just go back to how science was administered through things that we take for granted, right?

01:04:50.000 So, for example, Sir Isaac Newton, right?

01:04:52.000 Force equals mass times acceleration.

01:04:54.000 Object at rest will stay at rest for every action is equal and opposite reaction, right?

01:04:58.000 He was a phenomenal Christian, wrote a lot about biblical prophecy and looked at nature as a way to explore God's creation for an intended purpose.

01:05:06.000 And so, it's all a question of what is the intent, right?

01:05:08.000 So, I'll give you a great example.

01:05:10.000 If the intent is to allow human beings to flourish, then I'm all for it.

01:05:15.000 What's an example of that?

01:05:16.000 How about a cesarean section?

01:05:18.000 What an awesome medical breakthrough over the last hundred years.

01:05:21.000 A cesarean section is, of course, a C-section.

01:05:24.000 Without getting too graphic, it's a way through medical intervention and progress to save human life with that intended purpose.

01:05:31.000 Now, obviously, you know, you have to have an incision, you have to be able to, you know, have the proper medication so that the woman doesn't feel it.

01:05:40.000 It's the most common medical procedure now done in America today.

01:05:43.000 And so, I'm all for scientific breakthroughs and progress, but that's with the intent of saving a human life, right?

01:05:50.000 Properly administered, a C-section is life-giving, right?

01:05:55.000 When you look at other things, there is no life-giving nature to abortion.

01:06:01.000 So, you look at two very complex surgical procedures: one's an abortion, one's a cesarean section.

01:06:07.000 Both require a doctor, they require, you know, medication, they require breakthroughs, but they have two completely different moral premises: one to give life and one to take life away.

01:06:17.000 Does that answer your question?

01:06:19.000 And speaking of abortion, I did have a sort of separate question, if you don't mind.

01:06:19.000 Yeah, it does.

01:06:23.000 Yeah.

01:06:24.000 So, you sort of spoke, you sort of touched on abortion from a moral or philosophical standpoint in your talk.

01:06:30.000 From a political or cultural standpoint, how do you see the debate playing out in the mid to long term?

01:06:36.000 Who do you think wins in the long term?

01:06:37.000 That's a smart question.

01:06:39.000 I've given this advice to conservatives, which is you have to be realistic about it.

01:06:43.000 In certain states, in certain areas, it's not a winning issue.

01:06:45.000 Maybe in a longer period of time, we could do our work and we could persuade people.

01:06:49.000 But if you're trying to get political power or win an election, you've got to be realistic about whether or not you think that is going to win people over.

01:06:55.000 And so, some people say, Charlie, you should talk about the issue all the time.

01:06:59.000 Well, then, how are you ever going to get political power to actually fix the issue, right?

01:07:01.000 I mean, at some point, you got to be prudent about this.

01:07:04.000 But I think the left is going to see a surge of support.

01:07:08.000 I think that's going to happen.

01:07:09.000 They're going to see a lot of money come in, a lot more activists.

01:07:11.000 And then I think we as pro-lifers are going to get reorganized, see where we have to go.

01:07:16.000 I think we have to go on a multi-decade, multi-generation tour, campaign, project of getting into the deep moral and philosophy of it, entertaining questions, doing events.

01:07:26.000 Because here's the one thing I could tell you is that most people that are pro-abortion have really not heard the best defense of life from a moral standpoint, a biological standpoint, and a scientific standpoint.

01:07:37.000 But it's going to be a battle, man.

01:07:39.000 And I think you're going to end up seeing kind of red state, blue state abortion centers across the country where California is poised to make abortion a constitutional right.

01:07:49.000 And you're going to see a lot of that kind of interstate travel and all that kind of stuff.

01:07:51.000 So that's my prediction.

01:07:53.000 Thank you.

01:07:58.000 Charlie, thank you for being here, first of all, and thank you for everything that you do.

01:08:03.000 I recently self-published a book on the political and social issues facing our country.

01:08:09.000 And I covered a lot of the things that you touched on in your speech today: the rise of secularism in our country, how science has turned more into a religion than actual science, the assault on children in our country.

01:08:22.000 My question for you is: what recommendations, if any, would you have as far as what I could do for marketing my book for someone who doesn't have a large following like yourself?

01:08:32.000 You're doing a good thing here by being here.

01:08:34.000 What's the name of your book?

01:08:35.000 Downfall of America.

01:08:36.000 There you go.

01:08:36.000 So you got some plugs there.

01:08:38.000 Look, the best piece of advice I have is do as much media as you can, show up to events, get to know people.

01:08:43.000 Look, for the turning point, it is an overnight 10-year success story, right?

01:08:49.000 Where everyone's like, wow, it's so big, so many chapters, so many students, so much influence, all this.

01:08:54.000 And look, by the grace of God, we've grown amazingly.

01:08:56.000 But for those of you that were around, remember five or six years of a lot of scrappiness and a lot of hustle and a lot of events and red-eye flights.

01:09:06.000 And it's just, you got to put in the work, right?

01:09:08.000 And then everyone's like, wow, what happened to them so quickly?

01:09:11.000 Okay, you know, 330 days on the road for 10 years straight, right?

01:09:15.000 And then you might have a chance to build something where you can get the word out.

01:09:18.000 I'm not saying you have to do that, but that's what we did.

01:09:20.000 We were on the road 310, 315, 320, 335 days for a decade.

01:09:25.000 And then you finally have something that, you know, has been pretty beautiful and awesome and big and lots of staff and 130,000 donors across the country.

01:09:33.000 It's amazing.

01:09:34.000 And praise God, but you got to put in the work.

01:09:38.000 Thank you.

01:09:38.000 God bless you.

01:09:39.000 Yeah, of course.

01:09:40.000 Yeah.

01:09:40.000 Thank you.

01:09:41.000 You can go right now.

01:09:42.000 Thank you.

01:09:43.000 Love it.

01:09:43.000 Thank you, men.

01:09:44.000 God bless you.

01:09:45.000 Thank you.

01:09:49.000 And if you disagree, I just want to say it again.

01:09:51.000 You can come.

01:09:51.000 Thank you.

01:09:52.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:09:53.000 I've noticed in my life and with the political situation and the culture in the world that a lot of people are kind of say blackpilled is a way of saying it.

01:10:01.000 Like they've completely fallen into despair.

01:10:04.000 And I noticed myself, I was depressed like my entire life until I realized the core of it was I was an angry, resentful person.

01:10:11.000 So my question is, and I learned that from Jordan Peterson and the story of Cain and Abel in the Bible.

01:10:16.000 And I was wondering, you know, what ways could, you know, me personally, because I still struggle with it, and other people, like, how can we prevent ourselves from falling in this kind of angry, resentful feeling that a lot of people I know, a lot of my peers have?

01:10:28.000 Thank you.

01:10:29.000 Beautiful question.

01:10:30.000 Truly.

01:10:32.000 First thing is gratitude.

01:10:34.000 Gratitude is the fruit that makes all of the things taste sweet.

01:10:37.000 We have the most ungrateful generation in American history because we've taught them ingratitude.

01:10:42.000 You go to most American college campuses, they get a degree in ingratitude.

01:10:46.000 And if you go through the process of being thankful for something, eventually your mind will go and hopefully will say, thankful to whom?

01:10:54.000 And that's important too.

01:10:56.000 So I'm a big believer that the Ten Commandments were given to us as a way not just to prevent against our nature, but make us happier and allow us to flourish.

01:11:06.000 And I believe the Ten Commandments are instruction manuals for individuals and society.

01:11:11.000 And the one that I just harp on for young people in particular, and this is one that they don't like to hear, is honor your mother and father.

01:11:18.000 It is the only one of the Ten Commandments.

01:11:22.000 It's the only one of the Ten Commandments that involves your nation and a promise because it's not honor your mother and father.

01:11:28.000 It's honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.

01:11:32.000 Now, that word honor is very interesting.

01:11:34.000 You are not commanded to love your parents.

01:11:37.000 It does say that in the New Testament, but in the Ten Commandments, it does not say that.

01:11:40.000 It doesn't have to be to be your parents' friend.

01:11:43.000 Now, that word honor comes from a Hebrew word, the stem of it, which means heavy.

01:11:47.000 You must treat them heavily.

01:11:48.000 You might say, well, that doesn't make any sense.

01:11:49.000 Well, here's a better way to explain it.

01:11:51.000 The Hebrew word for curse is the word light.

01:11:54.000 So if you were to curse something, you would treat them lightly or not seriously.

01:11:57.000 What the Bible is commanding you is to take your parents seriously, is to take that relationship with heaviness, with intent.

01:12:05.000 Of course, you might have the worst parents in the history of the world.

01:12:08.000 They're abusive, they're awful.

01:12:10.000 Those are very, very few exceptions.

01:12:12.000 It is not okay to dishonor your parents or treat them lightly if you don't get along with them.

01:12:17.000 That's not an excuse.

01:12:19.000 I believe, this is just a side note, that if you cannot honor your earthly parents, you'll not be able to honor your heavenly father.

01:12:28.000 I believe it is the earthly intermediary step to be able to honor God, God Himself.

01:12:34.000 And I think as a civilization, we've kind of turned our back on that.

01:12:37.000 So, kind of also the idea of cynicism and apathy.

01:12:39.000 Are you a Christian?

01:12:40.000 Yes, sir.

01:12:41.000 Awesome.

01:12:42.000 So, we as Christians are not allowed to be cynical and apathetic.

01:12:47.000 If you're secular, I have a different answer for you.

01:12:50.000 But, as definition, as Christians, you have to be hopeful and you have to be optimistic, or else you're not a Christian.

01:12:58.000 And that requires effort, it requires daily effort where you remind yourself we know how the story ends, that there is eternity waiting for us.

01:13:07.000 There's a God who loves us, that we're born new.

01:13:10.000 That changes the black pill really quickly.

01:13:12.000 And the final thing I'll say with this, which is just kind of a good practice, is that this will not fix all of your problems.

01:13:20.000 But I am a believer in this with young men in particular: is do not discount your physiology.

01:13:25.000 What you eat, whether you do drugs, whether you take, you know, do alcohol, you know, how much you sleep, how much are you consuming of screens?

01:13:33.000 Do you understand how dangerous dopamine addiction and dopamine deficiencies can be?

01:13:38.000 It won't fix everything because deep down it is a soul problem, but God gave us three parts.

01:13:43.000 And we talk about the mind and rational arguments, and we talk about the spirit.

01:13:47.000 But sometimes I think we as Christians do not focus on the body at all.

01:13:52.000 And there is so much that if you have the posture of alignment that if you take care of your body, you say, I'm not going to drink anymore, I'm not going to do drugs, I'm going to not watch pornography, right?

01:14:00.000 I'm not going to stare at my screen 10 hours a day, I'm going to eat right and exercise.

01:14:05.000 All of a sudden, you're going to take your spiritual health more seriously.

01:14:08.000 And then with it, it comes into alignment.

01:14:10.000 So I'm a big believer that your physiology could be a big driver towards staying away from cynicism and apathy.

01:14:16.000 God bless you, man.

01:14:17.000 Thanks for being here.

01:14:18.000 God bless you too.

01:14:23.000 Hey, Charlie, I just want to first issue how offended I am at you having the audacity, the gall to confuse Kansas City, Kansas with Kansas City, Missouri.

01:14:34.000 We are better.

01:14:35.000 I knew it was coming.

01:14:36.000 We are better.

01:14:37.000 We came first.

01:14:38.000 We have a Super Bowl-winning team.

01:14:40.000 So I just want to make clear that you're in Missouri.

01:14:45.000 Now that sort of brings us to the question in Missouri, like, as you know, we had a trigger law.

01:14:52.000 So we essentially don't have abortions in Missouri.

01:14:56.000 So we have a lot of new parents who ostensibly don't feel prepared or feel ready to be parents.

01:15:02.000 So the question is: what should state governments do, especially in Missouri, to try to alleviate and support these new families?

01:15:09.000 Great question.

01:15:10.000 So, first and foremost, I've said this to every pastor as part of TPUSA Faith and every church.

01:15:14.000 The church has got to step up big time.

01:15:16.000 And if we're going to talk about pro-life policies from the pulpit, we've got to live out pro-life practices in the streets and with people that need help.

01:15:23.000 And we have to offer help and aid, pregnancy resources.

01:15:26.000 There should not be a child in America that gets born post-row where a mom feels as if she's not supported and prayed for and have things supplied to her.

01:15:36.000 I believe the church will step up.

01:15:37.000 I really do.

01:15:38.000 But we need pastors to be clear about it and churches to really embark on that.

01:15:41.000 The second thing is, state governments have to make the process of adoption less bureaucratic while having the safeguards in place to not allow child abusers and bad people to be able to adopt children, which is a very real concern.

01:15:53.000 I understand that.

01:15:54.000 But let's just look at the numbers.

01:15:56.000 One of the propaganda techniques of the abortionists, they say there will be unwanted children.

01:16:01.000 There are a million abortions every single year.

01:16:03.000 Currently, there's 2 million families on the adoption waiting list in America.

01:16:08.000 So there are twice as many families waiting to adopt in America than there are abortions every single year.

01:16:14.000 And I believe that number would go to 5 million and 6 million if American Christians were challenged from the pulpit, say, hey, if you have the capacity, if you have the ability, adopt one child to help us live out what we believe, that all human life is made in the image of God.

01:16:29.000 That's even beyond state governments.

01:16:30.000 I think the state government, though, needs to make it easier to have children.

01:16:33.000 I think that we need to have a whole pro-life agenda be put in place.

01:16:36.000 And praise God for the trigger law.

01:16:38.000 But I don't think it's enough to just say, okay, you know, abortion is gone and we turn our back on it.

01:16:42.000 We got to live out the pro-life policies in everything we do.

01:16:44.000 If you'll humor a follow-up question.

01:16:46.000 Really quick because we're running out of time.

01:16:48.000 So you mentioned mainly about like church, like what religious organizations should do to support new families.

01:16:56.000 And you mentioned abortion or not abortion, adoption.

01:16:59.000 Yes, that's right.

01:16:59.000 Freudian slip there.

01:17:01.000 What do you think of, say, Missouri's new bill in the House that will expand Medicaid protection to like pregnant women?

01:17:10.000 Do you think there should be more, like financially, on like the financial level to support these new families?

01:17:15.000 Yeah, I'd have to look at it.

01:17:16.000 I'm a bigger believer, if necessary, instead of doing Medicaid, which is government health insurance, I'm a bigger believer in doing what Milton Friedman would argue, which is if you're going to give aid, give it in a form of universal basic income to a very specific group.

01:17:28.000 I think that gives more agency and more choice.

01:17:30.000 Milton Friedman was a big believer in that.

01:17:33.000 Government insurance through Medicaid is awful.

01:17:35.000 It's like the worst.

01:17:35.000 Medicaid can save people's lives, but the quality is low and there's tons of fraud and a lot of inefficiencies.

01:17:40.000 I have to look at the bill there.

01:17:43.000 But I do think, I believe this, there is a potential role for the state to step up to make it easier for babies to be able to flourish and live post-row.

01:17:51.000 I do believe that.

01:17:52.000 Thank you.

01:17:53.000 God bless you.

01:17:56.000 Hi.

01:17:56.000 This is on the abortion topic as well.

01:17:59.000 Would you say 70% of Americans think abortion is okay up to a certain point?

01:18:05.000 I think that's probably right.

01:18:06.000 Okay.

01:18:07.000 So personally, I am pro-life.

01:18:09.000 I think life begins at conception.

01:18:11.000 But I think we are a small minority.

01:18:14.000 And I'm almost to the point where to do something, I would give in to a certain number of weeks.

01:18:21.000 I know Lindsey Graham said 15.

01:18:24.000 You know, and to me, one day doesn't make you human, and the next day you're not.

01:18:28.000 You know, it's just an embryo and a fetus.

01:18:31.000 It's just a stage of life.

01:18:32.000 It's all life.

01:18:34.000 If you today, and maybe not in the future, and I think part of it is people that are in favor of abortion don't really realize what it is.

01:18:44.000 When you say, do you know they rip your arms?

01:18:46.000 I don't want to hear about it.

01:18:47.000 They don't want to acknowledge what it is.

01:18:50.000 Is there a week or a day that you would concede so that we don't have, you know, yeah, so I would agree in a step towards the goal of abolition, right?

01:19:02.000 I mean, I think if there was a 14-week ban, great first step.

01:19:05.000 But I'll never not be clear the goal is complete and total abolition.

01:19:09.000 Like, I'm not going to back it up.

01:19:11.000 But do I think a 14-week ban would be a beautiful thing?

01:19:14.000 Of course, obviously, especially versus the late-term nonsense we see in a lot of these states.

01:19:19.000 But without the vision, without a vision, people perish.

01:19:22.000 And abortion is a crime against humanity.

01:19:24.000 And I'm not going to back away from that.

01:19:26.000 So I know.

01:19:26.000 So you'd agree you'd give a little.

01:19:28.000 Of course, yeah.

01:19:28.000 I mean, you ought to be prudent, right?

01:19:29.000 You got to be realistic.

01:19:30.000 Yeah.

01:19:31.000 But I'm also not going to act as if the movement's over and we're going to stop campaigning.

01:19:35.000 We're going to stop, you know, persuading.

01:19:37.000 But it would be imprudent not to take progress, right?

01:19:41.000 Even though you have a broader goal in mind.

01:19:43.000 So, of course.

01:19:44.000 God bless you.

01:19:45.000 Thank you.

01:19:50.000 Hi.

01:19:51.000 So you mentioned earlier, I have kind of a maybe complicated question.

01:19:55.000 I agree with some of the points you made and I kind of disagree.

01:19:58.000 You mentioned earlier something about like the love yourself movement is just really bad.

01:20:03.000 And I would say I agree with like a lot of self-reflection and like gives so much anxiety and depression to our generation because it's all just like me, me, me all the time.

01:20:13.000 But at the same time, like, do you feel like there's a balance between loving yourself?

01:20:17.000 Because I know that's helped me and that's helped many people be more comfortable with themselves and not have anxiety and have more, you know, comfortability with the people around them and themselves.

01:20:27.000 Like, do you feel like there's like you have to be extreme one way or another, or like there's.

01:20:32.000 I'm glad it helped you.

01:20:33.000 That's awesome.

01:20:33.000 But I don't think we should teach it to our children.

01:20:36.000 Right.

01:20:36.000 So I'll give you an example.

01:20:38.000 If a poster said something like, in a fourth-grade classroom, you're perfect the way you are.

01:20:44.000 Do you think that's a good message?

01:20:45.000 Like, what would your opinion?

01:20:46.000 Just think about it.

01:20:47.000 You disagree with that.

01:20:48.000 You disagree with it.

01:20:49.000 You and me both, right?

01:20:50.000 We agree.

01:20:51.000 Because to tell a fourth grader you're perfect the way you are, why would they go to school, right?

01:20:54.000 Like, why would they keep on studying and why would they keep on improving?

01:20:57.000 Now, what you're getting at, though, is being gentle towards oneself and not being harsh on oneself.

01:21:01.000 That's different than self-love because I'm a big believer in self-respect.

01:21:05.000 And that's completely different than self-love.

01:21:08.000 I always want to make sure I have respect towards myself.

01:21:11.000 Self-love is narcissism.

01:21:13.000 Self-respect is, I don't want to do a series of behaviors or choices where I might look at myself in the mirror and say, I'm not happy the way I acted.

01:21:22.000 Does that make sense?

01:21:23.000 So self-love can get into hyper-Eastern infatuation with your own being and the energy within, which if it helps you, praise God.

01:21:31.000 I know it's helped a lot of people, but I don't think we should teach our children that.

01:21:34.000 I think it could do a lot more damage than good.

01:21:36.000 Does that make sense?

01:21:37.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:21:37.000 Thank you.

01:21:38.000 Thank you.

01:21:38.000 God bless you.

01:21:42.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:21:44.000 I go to Staley High School up north, just north of the river.

01:21:48.000 I live in Kansas City, and I do an after-school program at an elementary school.

01:21:53.000 And while I'm walking through these halls of the elementary school, I see a lot of symbolism of LGBTQ, love yourself, rainbows all over the walls.

01:22:04.000 And I came up with a question: I want to know: if you were a senator or a congressman, how would you tackle LGBTQ indoctrination in elementary schools?

01:22:13.000 Yeah, so I think it should be totally outlawed.

01:22:16.000 It shouldn't be in our schools at all whatsoever.

01:22:18.000 What do I mean by that?

01:22:19.000 You shouldn't have queer theory, LGBTQ imagery, or signage in a school.

01:22:24.000 It just shouldn't exist.

01:22:25.000 And, you know, I, and by the way, it doesn't stop there.

01:22:29.000 And that's the thing you might say, oh, I'm okay with, you know, gay flags and trans flags all over classrooms, of which I am not.

01:22:34.000 But it doesn't stop there.

01:22:35.000 You then have video after video after video of teachers that are admitting they use their platform and they use their position to try to change kids' belief or sexuality and all this nonsense.

01:22:45.000 But yeah, I mean, there is a role for politics here.

01:22:47.000 There is a rule for lawmakers, a role for lawmakers, which first and foremost to restore parents' rights.

01:22:53.000 And then we also got to ask the question: what is the purpose of education?

01:22:56.000 And it kind of goes back to like the love yourself are kids right.

01:22:59.000 If the purpose of education is to give kids what they want, well, then we got education totally backwards.

01:23:06.000 The classical view of education that built Western civilization is you know very little and you have a lot of work to do.

01:23:13.000 But if you apply yourself, we can go on a journey together to go find out what is good, true, and beautiful in the world.

01:23:20.000 Now we tell kids, you're perfect.

01:23:23.000 You're great.

01:23:23.000 Said differently.

01:23:25.000 In the 1960s, we used to tell kids, you're the problem and America is great.

01:23:35.000 Now we say you're great and America's the problem.

01:23:39.000 And we got to change that.

01:23:40.000 It has to be a complete, total posture change in how we do education.

01:23:44.000 Education comes from a Latin word, which means to lead forth.

01:23:48.000 So you got to lead forth towards something.

01:23:50.000 And I want that leading forth towards truth, not gender confusion and identity issues.

01:23:54.000 And I hope our elected officials do that.

01:23:56.000 Thank you.

01:23:57.000 Thank you.

01:24:02.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:24:03.000 I'm wondering, what do you think is the most important message that can come from the Hispanic community towards both parties?

01:24:12.000 Thank you for being here.

01:24:14.000 I think Hispanics need to yell from the rooftops that we're not going to put up with white liberal domination of American society.

01:24:22.000 And I say white liberal intentionally because there is a disproportionate amount of the nonsense that just is venom in our society from a small group of white liberals that tell Hispanic and black people that they must live a certain way.

01:24:36.000 And so the one thing I would love to see the Hispanic community do is reassert itself as being a parents movement, loving their children and traditional values.

01:24:46.000 It is insane, I think, that we teach kids that men can become pregnant.

01:24:50.000 And I think every Hispanic in America agrees.

01:24:53.000 I would love to see even more nonsense.

01:24:54.000 I don't know if you agree, this Latinx thing, I think, is the most insane thing.

01:24:58.000 It comes from a white liberal is what it comes from.

01:25:01.000 And so I would love to see kind of that opposition movement and both parties.

01:25:06.000 This is what I would love to see Hispanics say, is stop taking our culture as if it's something for your own political purposes.

01:25:13.000 I don't think conservatives are doing that at all.

01:25:14.000 I think that liberals do it all the time.

01:25:16.000 They think they own Hispanics.

01:25:17.000 They think they control them.

01:25:19.000 They think they could tell them what to do.

01:25:20.000 They use it as political footballs all the time.

01:25:22.000 And I want Hispanics to say, you know what, you don't own us, actually.

01:25:25.000 We're our own community and we love our children.

01:25:27.000 We love God.

01:25:28.000 We love hard work.

01:25:28.000 We love the police and you don't represent us.

01:25:30.000 That's what I'd love to see from the Hispanic community.

01:25:35.000 Really quick, we're running out of time.

01:25:37.000 It comes across very condescending and arrogant.

01:25:40.000 And it comes across as if we're not capable of doing things.

01:25:45.000 I agree.

01:25:45.000 God bless you.

01:25:46.000 Thank you.

01:25:48.000 We're a long way from Arizona, man.

01:25:51.000 I'm actually from here.

01:25:52.000 I interviewed Carrie Lake on my podcast recently.

01:25:55.000 So my question, I was scrolling through Instagram recently, and I came across a picture of a grown adult male trying to breastfeed his child or someone else's child.

01:26:08.000 I'm not sure.

01:26:09.000 I believe that the transgenderism agenda is very, very inherently evil.

01:26:15.000 I was discussing this with the kind man that decided to flip all of us off and charge you.

01:26:20.000 And he said that there's not an agenda.

01:26:22.000 Well, there very clearly is if we look at this picture.

01:26:25.000 What do we do, especially my age group?

01:26:28.000 What do we do to stand up against this and really say no besides just saying it's wrong?

01:26:36.000 Yeah.

01:26:37.000 Look, I think we also got to elevate, you know, what is the solution, right?

01:26:43.000 Which is we want children to be able to flourish.

01:26:46.000 You know, we don't want people to live in mental terror.

01:26:49.000 We don't think that we don't take that lightly.

01:26:52.000 And are there other implications?

01:26:53.000 I mean, so for example, you know, for the young gentleman that all decided to charge me and the whole thing, is the question would also be, do you think there might be other mental conditions that might be at play other than gender dysphoria, right?

01:27:04.000 Maybe?

01:27:05.000 Like, do you think maybe there were too many psychiatric medications given of benzodiazepans and Xanax, Adderall?

01:27:11.000 You know that there are 4 million kids under the age of 18 on incredibly manipulative psychoactive drugs.

01:27:18.000 Now, maybe you're one of them, maybe you support it, maybe your kids are.

01:27:20.000 I'm not here to, you know, judge.

01:27:22.000 That's not my position.

01:27:24.000 But we probably should say 4 million is too much.

01:27:26.000 Like, that's a lot, right?

01:27:28.000 You just read the black box warning on some of these drugs, they can have huge implications, and these are developing minds and neurocircuits that are not yet completed.

01:27:36.000 And so that's what I would say.

01:27:37.000 And I just think that there needs to be kind of a revitalization of, you know, what is the goal, which is a restoration of the Western nuclear family, which is the bedrock of so much of our flourishing.

01:27:50.000 We got to get to the next question.

01:27:50.000 God bless you, man.

01:27:51.000 Thank you.

01:27:53.000 I'll do a couple more.

01:27:55.000 We'll go a little over time if you guys want me to, because I screwed up the states.

01:27:59.000 Yeah, I want you to go over time.

01:28:00.000 Are you familiar with Christopher Hitchens?

01:28:03.000 Yeah, the atheist.

01:28:04.000 So Christopher Hitchens' statement is that while religion may occasionally make bad people do good things, if you want to get good people to do bad things, you use religion.

01:28:14.000 How would you respond to that?

01:28:16.000 So do you hold that view or just curious?

01:28:20.000 Oh, you do?

01:28:21.000 Well, what is good?

01:28:21.000 Okay.

01:28:24.000 Well, anything that benefits people.

01:28:30.000 I mean, I'm not.

01:28:31.000 Okay, but I'm not really, I don't really have a cogent definition of good, but there are certainly plenty of examples where religious differences have been leveraged to create horrendous atrocities.

01:28:42.000 Yeah, just the question is what is horrendous and what is good, right?

01:28:45.000 So absent of belief in God, how do you have a definition of good?

01:28:50.000 What benefits mankind?

01:28:52.000 Yeah, so Hitler thought killing Jews benefits mankind.

01:28:54.000 Was he wrong?

01:28:55.000 Hitler was also a Catholic and promoted the...

01:28:59.000 Not a very good one.

01:29:00.000 And also was promoting his sort of the pagan Germanic religion.

01:29:05.000 Yeah, so Stalin was an atheist who went to seminary, denounced God, killed 40 million people, but who's to say they're wrong?

01:29:11.000 They said they were benefiting humanity.

01:29:14.000 Well, I think you can make that, you can argue against that based on using science.

01:29:20.000 How?

01:29:21.000 Well, the more diversity you have, the more likely you are to survive.

01:29:27.000 What?

01:29:29.000 I don't quite understand.

01:29:30.000 I'm curious.

01:29:34.000 By eliminating diversity.

01:29:36.000 So evolution is descent through modification and survival of the fittest.

01:29:41.000 So the more genetic variation you have, the more likely you are to develop at least some part of that population that would be able to withstand any sort of environmental change.

01:29:50.000 So genocides, I think from a scientific standpoint, you can't use science to support that.

01:29:57.000 Okay, so then why was there a lot of literature supporting eugenics?

01:30:01.000 Because people are stupid.

01:30:02.000 Oh, I agree, right?

01:30:04.000 So, but then, so you're saying science.

01:30:07.000 Okay, so that's an interesting question.

01:30:09.000 So you think Darwinism can support an agreed-uponism?

01:30:13.000 Because Darwin never used origin of species, like his.

01:30:16.000 But that's not Darwinism, that's evolution.

01:30:19.000 Okay, so how about the moral idea that the survival of the fittest?

01:30:23.000 Well, it's not really a moral idea.

01:30:25.000 It's a kind of a fact.

01:30:27.000 Oh, okay.

01:30:28.000 Interesting.

01:30:29.000 So I kind of get.

01:30:30.000 But you can make the case that.

01:30:32.000 So I think there are people who would say, well, if you have people who are sort of have genetic defects that they shouldn't be allowed to survive, I think that's horrendous.

01:30:40.000 But why?

01:30:41.000 Why do you have that belief?

01:30:43.000 Again, this idea behind genetic diversity.

01:30:46.000 Yeah, but if someone has a low IQ, aren't they kind of just like a strain on society?

01:30:49.000 Why wouldn't we eliminate them?

01:30:51.000 You can't predict on the basis, certainly of IQ.

01:30:53.000 Oh, sure, we can.

01:30:54.000 We do chromosomal testing.

01:30:54.000 We do it all the time.

01:30:56.000 I mean, in Iceland, they've gotten rid of kids with Downs.

01:30:58.000 Down syndrome.

01:30:59.000 Do you agree with that?

01:31:00.000 No.

01:31:01.000 Why?

01:31:02.000 Because those folks with Down syndrome lead full and full lives that aren't.

01:31:09.000 They require someone to support them, so shouldn't we eliminate them?

01:31:12.000 Not all of them.

01:31:13.000 Why?

01:31:16.000 By what more?

01:31:17.000 Hold on.

01:31:17.000 Down syndrome is a spectrum.

01:31:19.000 It's not simply a trisomy 21.

01:31:23.000 It's a lot more complicated.

01:31:24.000 But I'm getting at a point here, which eventually it's going to be your opinion versus mine of what is good.

01:31:30.000 Okay, but I think you can make you can qualify good scientifically.

01:31:36.000 Right, but the scientific good in Iceland is Down syndrome, are a strain on the environment, strain on resources.

01:31:42.000 They're unproductive.

01:31:43.000 They can't produce.

01:31:44.000 So we might as well eliminate them, right?

01:31:46.000 Well, I would say that's a mistake.

01:31:47.000 They don't.

01:31:48.000 But their scientists disagree.

01:31:51.000 So by what standard is good good?

01:31:53.000 Who are their scientists?

01:31:56.000 The international world community is doing this all.

01:31:59.000 Let me ask you another question, though.

01:32:00.000 Do you believe in the Big Bang?

01:32:03.000 So you believe that time, space, and matter had a definitive beginning?

01:32:03.000 Yes.

01:32:09.000 Yes.

01:32:09.000 Okay, so by definition, shouldn't therefore the thing that caused time, space, and matter be outside of time, space, and matter?

01:32:17.000 No, that's of concern.

01:32:18.000 So you don't believe in Newtonian physics?

01:32:21.000 No, actually, I don't.

01:32:22.000 I believe more in quantum physics because...

01:32:24.000 Okay, so you don't believe for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction?

01:32:28.000 Newtonian physics works well on large scales, but it.

01:32:32.000 Yeah, the universe is pretty large, dude.

01:32:35.000 Wait, the Big Bang rests on quantum mechanics.

01:32:41.000 Not applied by Newtonian physics, because it's the largest possible scale imaginable.

01:32:45.000 So how exactly did the Big Bang happen if there wasn't someone that effectuated the Big Bang?

01:32:50.000 Okay, so it's a bit complicated.

01:32:53.000 It has to do with quantum...

01:32:55.000 No, I'm not saying that.

01:32:56.000 No, it's actually not.

01:32:57.000 It's that the only thing that could have made something that is space-time and matter is something that transcends space-time and matter, aka a God.

01:33:04.000 That's the only explanation.

01:33:08.000 There are plenty of folks who would disagree.

01:33:11.000 But can I just one more?

01:33:13.000 Have you ever heard of body integrity identity disorder?

01:33:16.000 No.

01:33:17.000 Okay, so it's a disorder where people believe that they have some physical defect, a leg amputation, a spinal cord injury, but they are perfectly normal.

01:33:26.000 So these people tend to seek surgeons to perform.

01:33:29.000 No surgeon would ever do it because they would lose their license.

01:33:35.000 I would advance the idea that people that do gender reaffirming surgery on minors should also lose their licenses.

01:33:42.000 You and I agree on that, my friend.

01:33:43.000 Thank you.

01:33:48.000 And I'll say one last thing to you.

01:33:50.000 Without God, there would be no atheists.

01:33:56.000 Thank you so much for your work.

01:33:58.000 I'll just ask two quick questions.

01:34:00.000 As a passionate Christian and patriot, and just I would say an everyday Joe that I am a businesswoman, churchgoer, I feel intimidated and discouraged so many times seeing the power of our culture.

01:34:13.000 As you said, on every Starbucks, our social media, everywhere we go, there's this Goliath in our face.

01:34:20.000 And I just wanted to see if you could empower all of us with just some points as a Gideon's army on how we can continue to take a stand for conservatism.

01:34:30.000 And if you, if Turning Point has, my juices are so stirred and I'm so excited that I want to be able to answer transgenderism.

01:34:40.000 I haven't studied all of the points, but does your organization have something where we can learn how to be effective in really responding to this?

01:34:49.000 Yeah, and I got to kind of hat tip the experts.

01:34:52.000 I got to tell you, Matt Walsh's documentary, What is a Woman, is one of the best pieces of film.

01:34:56.000 Is that not the greatest thing?

01:34:59.000 And I don't pretend to be the leading voice on that topic because I have to carry, you know, we do radio, so I have to talk about 100 issues a day.

01:35:06.000 But I really encourage you.

01:35:08.000 He does, his podcast is great, and I think he's done more scholarship on this issue in a persuasive, entertaining way than almost anybody else.

01:35:15.000 I would point you in that direction.

01:35:16.000 And also, don't give up, hope.

01:35:18.000 We got the truth.

01:35:19.000 Have courage.

01:35:20.000 Courage is the ultimate virtue.

01:35:21.000 Without courage, there are no other virtues.

01:35:24.000 And I'll tell you, I think our best days are ahead in that way.

01:35:26.000 God bless you.

01:35:27.000 Thank you.

01:35:27.000 Next question.

01:35:28.000 Is this the final question?

01:35:30.000 Yes, final question.

01:35:31.000 Okay.

01:35:32.000 Best for last.

01:35:33.000 But my question is: I debate often with people of color that look like me that they shouldn't support like BLM and all that nonsense.

01:35:41.000 So no, they haven't accepted my ideals.

01:35:44.000 So what would be the best counter-argument for them to just stop supporting defunding police or reparations or things like that?

01:35:51.000 Are those popular arguments you hear?

01:35:52.000 Yeah.

01:35:53.000 Yeah.

01:35:53.000 Okay.

01:35:54.000 Well, first, are you a conservative?

01:35:55.000 I'm a Christian.

01:35:56.000 Yes.

01:35:57.000 God bless you, man.

01:35:57.000 Thank you.

01:35:58.000 And that's very, I want to say that I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I can imagine you receive some ridicule for those positions.

01:36:06.000 What are you called?

01:36:08.000 Trans folk.

01:36:08.000 Well, and definitely in high school, I came out as a Christian.

01:36:11.000 So people started debating me on my how I believed.

01:36:16.000 And it was just, I would set up these debates and it would be, it would just be awful.

01:36:19.000 Like I'd be called a bunch of names.

01:36:20.000 It never affected me much, but it was just so interesting to see their rhetoric not have a civil discourse with me.

01:36:26.000 Yes.

01:36:26.000 Yeah.

01:36:26.000 So look, I would say this: that I would focus on talking to, you know, other black Americans.

01:36:33.000 I would ask them, I'd say, has the reign of white liberals since the 1960s benefited our community?

01:36:39.000 Forget all this systemic racism stuff.

01:36:40.000 You guys want to talk about racism?

01:36:42.000 How about the reign of white liberals that Malcolm X warned us about?

01:36:46.000 Great society program, woke ideology, destruction of our family.

01:36:49.000 They want to play the race card all the time.

01:36:51.000 Who's been in charge of black cities the last 60 years?

01:36:55.000 It's not rural farmers in western Kansas or Missouri.

01:37:01.000 It's.

01:37:03.000 No, instead, it's been white liberals.

01:37:06.000 It's been a project of the white liberal and for the white liberal.

01:37:09.000 And it's hyper-academic ideology, abstractions.

01:37:12.000 And here's the one thing I would say: which is try to be real.

01:37:15.000 This is one of the reasons why I think that black America is going to have a conservative renaissance at some point, is that these ideas require you at times to go through to get a PhD.

01:37:25.000 They're so insane.

01:37:26.000 Men can become pregnant.

01:37:27.000 America is systemically racist.

01:37:28.000 You know, when you walk the streets in the cities, you're like, actually, we could use more cops.

01:37:33.000 You don't have to go listen to some sort of abstract thinker about why police systemic racism, all that nonsense.

01:37:38.000 So just be real.

01:37:39.000 Talk about things that matter.

01:37:40.000 In black America, you talk about how we need a restoration of nuclear families.

01:37:45.000 And ask the question: why is this the case?

01:37:46.000 It's because of the reign of terror of white liberals.

01:37:49.000 It's not white conservatives.

01:37:51.000 It's not this mega semi-fascist people.

01:37:53.000 No, no, no.

01:37:54.000 It is the ideology of the woke that has imposed themselves on black America.

01:37:58.000 If that's really they want to go, I'll tell you, they've done more damage than any other community, and I think you could turn it on them.

01:38:02.000 God bless you for being here tonight, man.

01:38:04.000 Thank you.

01:38:07.000 All right.

01:38:08.000 Well, that was fun, wasn't it?

01:38:10.000 Loved coming here.

01:38:10.000 I want to thank the university for hosting us and for making it so good.

01:38:13.000 Thank you to our security.

01:38:14.000 Thank you to Turning Point USA.

01:38:16.000 Just some closing thoughts.

01:38:17.000 Make sure you are registered to vote and you do vote and get your friends out to vote.

01:38:21.000 Very, very important.

01:38:23.000 And I just want to kind of close on this, which is you being here tonight.

01:38:27.000 You are the remnant.

01:38:27.000 You are the vanguard.

01:38:29.000 You matter so much.

01:38:30.000 We are doing at Turning Point USA on high school campuses, on college campuses.

01:38:34.000 It's the front lines.

01:38:34.000 You see what they have to deal with.

01:38:36.000 It's hard.

01:38:37.000 It's tough.

01:38:38.000 And I hope that inspires some of you that are not in college, be like, you know what?

01:38:41.000 I can fight a little bit.

01:38:42.000 I can organize.

01:38:43.000 We are on pace to have 1,000 high school chapters across America at Turning Point USA.

01:38:47.000 It's an amazing accomplishment and milestone.

01:38:50.000 And the work we're doing is going to preserve and restore a free America.

01:38:56.000 It really is.

01:38:56.000 Come to America Fest in Phoenix right before Christmas.

01:39:00.000 Tucker Carlson, Tim Poole, country music artists, Candace Owens, amfest.com.

01:39:06.000 It's in Phoenix.

01:39:07.000 You will not regret it.

01:39:08.000 It's going to be the greatest event of the entire year.

01:39:11.000 Stay involved with Turning Point USA and ask yourself the question: what am I going to do in the next three weeks to make sure America is a free country?

01:39:19.000 That's a question you just have to ask yourself.

01:39:21.000 Whatever the answer to that is, is your proper answer.

01:39:24.000 Commit yourself to truth, and we're honored at Turning Point USA to fight alongside of you.

01:39:28.000 God bless you guys.

01:39:29.000 Thank you so much.

01:39:33.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:39:34.000 Email me directly, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:39:37.000 Thanks so much for listening.

01:39:39.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 25, 2022

The Cult of Scientism LIVE from University of Missouri Kansas City

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