The Charlie Kirk Show - March 14, 2021


The Culture War Warnings with Pastor Rob McCoy


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In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, Pastor Rob McCoy joins the show to talk about the importance of fighting for freedom and standing up for the unborn in the face of anti-choice legislation that has been proposed in Congress.

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00:00:00.000 Today in the Charlie Kirk Show, super important episode.
00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
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00:00:21.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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00:00:54.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:55.000 Welcome.
00:00:56.000 Here with my pastor, Rob McCoy.
00:00:58.000 We're going to switch it up a little bit.
00:00:59.000 He's going to be asking me questions, but who knows where it will go.
00:01:02.000 Rob, let's do it.
00:01:03.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:01:05.000 I actually, I'm glad that we get to do this format because not many people have the privilege to live in your brain.
00:01:11.000 And stuff that just seems like it's normal to you, the rest of the world doesn't get.
00:01:15.000 And I'll give you a perfect example.
00:01:17.000 HR1, HR5.
00:01:19.000 I get questions on this all day long.
00:01:22.000 Is it going to pass the Senate?
00:01:24.000 What is the ramifications?
00:01:26.000 What are we up against?
00:01:27.000 HR1 dealing with, you know, voting.
00:01:30.000 Yeah, if our vote's going to count, this thing on the surface looks like an absolute mess.
00:01:36.000 HR5, are both of these going to pass the Senate?
00:01:39.000 We know that the Congress has voted.
00:01:41.000 Talk to folks because for you, as I was talking to you earlier, it just seems like it just rolls off the top of your head.
00:01:48.000 But I was just mesmerized, and you have the ability to make the complex simple.
00:01:52.000 Would you do that for our listeners?
00:01:53.000 Yeah, first of all, great to be on, Rob, and I love your new show.
00:01:57.000 Oh, thanks.
00:01:58.000 I learned a lot from Bill Federer last week.
00:02:00.000 He was great.
00:02:00.000 That was watching this.
00:02:02.000 Go back a couple episodes, watch it.
00:02:04.000 He said some stuff quickly that was just so wise.
00:02:08.000 Yeah.
00:02:09.000 And I actually am doing an entire podcast just based on like one sentence.
00:02:12.000 I said one sentence, I could take it.
00:02:14.000 I told you, you've got to listen to this.
00:02:15.000 You did.
00:02:15.000 It was that good.
00:02:16.000 It was awesome.
00:02:18.000 So, yeah, we were driving in the car yesterday, and I was saying, I was explaining parts of HR1, HR5, and I thought I was just being repetitious, but actually, I think that some people need to hear it, and we need to go through it.
00:02:32.000 So let me tell you the essence of each bill.
00:02:35.000 HR1 is universal mail-in voting, which would basically federally mandate federal funding that every single human being in the North American continent gets a ballot.
00:02:43.000 Now, it's a little bit of an over-exaggeration, but not totally.
00:02:45.000 Not totally.
00:02:46.000 Registered voter, not even.
00:02:48.000 It would be even citizens in certain states.
00:02:50.000 It'd be supplying, it would be supplying federal funding towards even potentially illegal aliens getting ballots.
00:02:58.000 A massive deluge of ballots.
00:02:59.000 They just show up at every door, basically.
00:03:01.000 Essentially, and it would be money you have to spend, duplicate ballots, you name it.
00:03:05.000 It would be nationalizing our elections, going against what the Constitution clearly says, that state legislatures have to be the ones that are involved, not just involved, but are the ones that designate how elections are actually done in their states.
00:03:20.000 They want to basically turn the entire country into California, basically.
00:03:23.000 And as a Californian, I don't want that.
00:03:25.000 That's right.
00:03:26.000 So let's go to HR5.
00:03:27.000 That's the Equality Act that has passed the House of Representatives.
00:03:31.000 And this is the greatest assault on the church that basically no one wants to talk about.
00:03:36.000 And the unborn.
00:03:37.000 The unborn, on traditional marriage, on religious consciousness, on free speech, you name it.
00:03:42.000 It's a mishmash of a bill.
00:03:44.000 The long and short of it is that HR5, which has passed the House and it's now pending in front of the Senate, basically will expand the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include gender identity.
00:03:56.000 Crazy.
00:03:57.000 Not, let me be very clear. 0.77
00:03:59.000 Not chromosomal structure, but gender identity.
00:04:03.000 It's a very big difference.
00:04:04.000 So it's how you feel, how you might self-identify.
00:04:08.000 So it's completely and totally subjective, not objective.
00:04:13.000 And completely fluid for most people.
00:04:13.000 Right.
00:04:14.000 Totally. 1.00
00:04:15.000 So one day you could be a woman. 0.99
00:04:16.000 Another day you could be an elk. 0.88
00:04:18.000 The next day you can be a man.
00:04:19.000 And then I use the wrong pronoun because you fluided out of one into another, and I'm in trouble. 0.99
00:04:24.000 Correct.
00:04:24.000 And so what starts with what sounds to be a very, very nascent or non-controversial great word, Charlie?
00:04:32.000 Love it.
00:04:32.000 Nascent.
00:04:33.000 Thank you.
00:04:33.000 Seriously, you say these words, I write them down, I go back and look them up.
00:04:38.000 That's a great word.
00:04:38.000 I do know nascent.
00:04:39.000 Thank you.
00:04:40.000 And if you don't know what it means, just kind of innocent, right?
00:04:43.000 Yeah.
00:04:44.000 What starts as something to be rather innocent or, oh, that's not that big of a deal.
00:04:48.000 We are now entertaining.
00:04:50.000 It's no longer, this is not just a college lecture that's being taught at Berkeley.
00:04:50.000 It's past the house.
00:04:54.000 This is not just some wacky guy on YouTube that says, oh, I'm going to come in and tell you what to believe about gender.
00:04:59.000 No, this is potentially becoming written federal law.
00:05:03.000 I think it might be unconstitutional.
00:05:04.000 I'll get to that in a second.
00:05:05.000 But let's just talk about the danger that it poses.
00:05:08.000 Basically, what one interpretation of the law could be, which I believe is as written, is if you hold a biblical view of marriage, one man, one woman, God created man, God created women, woman, that is right there in Genesis.
00:05:23.000 It's as clear as can be, then you are violating the Civil Rights Act, an extension of it. 0.61
00:05:30.000 That's what the Equality Act does. 0.57
00:05:32.000 Now, the argument that they're making, the transgender activists, the LGBT activists, they say that transgender people need the same protections that blacks needed back in the 1960s.
00:05:44.000 We all remember those times, Jim Crow, segregation, poll taxes, legitimate racial discrimination. 0.86
00:05:50.000 The problem is that they are drafting a solution in search of a problem.
00:05:54.000 There is no evidence of widespread discrimination against transgender people.
00:05:57.000 There is not massive issues happening where transgender people are not able to move up in society, get careers.
00:06:05.000 And also, we're talking about a very, very minimal portion of the American population.
00:06:10.000 So basically, what the Equality Act does, there's like six or seven major components.
00:06:14.000 If I could walk through just some of them, please.
00:06:16.000 The major problem here is that it broadens the definition of what needs to be a protected class in America.
00:06:25.000 So they are now saying a protected class basically is anyone who is gender fluid.
00:06:32.000 So for example, Rob, potentially, you as a minister, as running a church, you might have to go against your biblical beliefs to say, well, I have to now endorse or tolerate someone with a transgender lifestyle or someone.
00:06:50.000 So let's say you're running an adoption clinic.
00:06:52.000 And you say, we believe marriage is one man, one woman at our adoption clinic at Godspeak, right?
00:06:52.000 Right.
00:06:57.000 The Equality Act could potentially put government sanctions, government penalties saying, no, you believe in biblical marriage. 0.98
00:07:04.000 Therefore, your adoption clinic can't run. 0.97
00:07:06.000 We're going to tax you, sanction you, put you in court.
00:07:09.000 The penalty is not exactly specified, but the penalty nevertheless is threatened. 0.85
00:07:15.000 Another part of this, which is just the obvious part, it's not even a religious component of it, is it will basically say there's no thing whatsoever such as protection of women-only activities. 0.57
00:07:26.000 Tragic.
00:07:27.000 Which is against science. 0.99
00:07:29.000 It's against the idea of the protection of women. 1.00
00:07:31.000 It's against second-wave feminism. 0.99
00:07:32.000 It's against everything that we believe in as trying to be not just the proper role of what men and women should have in society.
00:07:43.000 And I know that's a politically incorrect term, but I really don't care. 1.00
00:07:46.000 But I don't think that men should be in women's sports. 1.00
00:07:49.000 Agreed. 1.00
00:07:49.000 Biological males should not be participating in sports with biological females. 1.00
00:07:53.000 And that's a pretty agreed upon truth. 1.00
00:07:57.000 You would think.
00:07:58.000 You would think. 0.99
00:07:58.000 So now basically we're saying women's sports don't matter. 0.99
00:08:01.000 That every woman's record on the pennant at your local high school might as well be taken down. 0.82
00:08:01.000 Right. 0.82
00:08:07.000 There's only men's sports. 1.00
00:08:08.000 And so women might not be married. 1.00
00:08:08.000 Right. 1.00
00:08:10.000 And biological men, if you don't do well in male sports, just go into the female. 0.84
00:08:14.000 You'll break all the records. 0.90
00:08:16.000 That's right.
00:08:17.000 And so we're already seeing this in Connecticut.
00:08:19.000 We're seeing this in other states where they've allowed biological men.
00:08:22.000 And these are people that we believe deserve compassion. 0.96
00:08:27.000 They deserve the love of Jesus Christ, but they're suffering from a mental condition called gender dysphoria. 0.99
00:08:32.000 I've said this before. 1.00
00:08:33.000 People say I'm transphobic.
00:08:34.000 I'm really not afraid of trans people.
00:08:37.000 I am afraid of what the mandates will do to destroy female sports.
00:08:42.000 And so I'm not saying this from a position of hatred.
00:08:44.000 Instead, it's actually a position of love and protection.
00:08:47.000 Yeah.
00:08:47.000 It's not popular, but it's right.
00:08:49.000 But it's also, yeah, it's factual and scientific and it's logical and reasonable.
00:08:52.000 And so, again, I've been through, I actually have been on the leading edge of this transgender discussion for three or four years.
00:08:58.000 We had the there are only two gender shirts.
00:09:00.000 So this is not something that's new to us.
00:09:01.000 Yeah.
00:09:02.000 Common sense nowadays is not common.
00:09:04.000 In the American psychology of medicine, for decades, we would call people that had gender identity problems gender dysphoria. 1.00
00:09:11.000 Right. 0.67
00:09:12.000 Now we platform it as transgenderism, as if a gender change is something that is perfectly normal.
00:09:19.000 We must understand it. 0.76
00:09:20.000 There actually might be somebody in you screaming to get out.
00:09:23.000 There's no political research or science behind this.
00:09:26.000 And it also goes directly against the laws of nature and science, which I thought was a really big thing of the left.
00:09:32.000 That's what they keep telling us.
00:09:33.000 But instead of saying, hold on a second, we have a very small portion of American society.
00:09:39.000 Let's try to accommodate voluntarily through institutions, through people being decent to one another, some form of adjustments. 0.86
00:09:49.000 We are now going to use the heavy brute force of the federal government to say, if you do not allow biological men into female sports, you could lose attack status. 0.99
00:09:59.000 You could then be under criminal sanctions. 0.69
00:10:03.000 And so what we're seeing here is the opposite of tolerance.
00:10:07.000 We're now seeing the intolerant assume the badge of tolerance and use the full force of the federal government to say, we're going to punish you if you don't go about doing this.
00:10:18.000 And I'm just, I'm asking, I ask a very simple question. 1.00
00:10:21.000 Where are the second wave feminists? 1.00
00:10:23.000 Where is Gloria Steinman? 1.00
00:10:24.000 Where are the people that were marching on the streets and burning their bras and all this kind of female? 0.99
00:10:30.000 Some of them are talking.
00:10:31.000 Some are and they're being canceled.
00:10:32.000 But Rob, it is not a mass movement.
00:10:34.000 No.
00:10:35.000 So here's something.
00:10:36.000 I just have some very simple questions for Nancy Pelosi.
00:10:39.000 And this is like a really simple question.
00:10:41.000 She says, in 2018, we got more women elected to Congress than any other time in American history. 0.85
00:10:45.000 Nancy Pelosi, what is a woman? 0.99
00:10:48.000 Good question. 1.00
00:10:49.000 For her.
00:10:50.000 And if her answer is a woman is someone who says they're a woman, then okay, it's completely subjective. 0.75
00:10:55.000 My answer is a woman is someone who has XX chromosomes. 0.75
00:10:58.000 That's simple. 1.00
00:10:59.000 Yeah, science.
00:11:00.000 That is science.
00:11:01.000 Yeah.
00:11:01.000 Now, some people say, well, what about someone that might be born with an additional chromosome, right?
00:11:07.000 It's intersex, right?
00:11:08.000 So that would be the exception. 1.00
00:11:10.000 Well, therefore, using Aristotelian logic, there's an exception, there's a rule.
00:11:13.000 What's the rule?
00:11:15.000 You don't make rules for exceptions.
00:11:16.000 For exceptions, right? 0.67
00:11:17.000 You accommodate, because of our biblical view of compassion, any sort of arrangement to say, okay, instead of saying that the man who thinks he's a woman should go in the woman's locker room, why doesn't that person maybe just change in the restroom? 0.76
00:11:34.000 A separate restroom. 0.92
00:11:35.000 A transgender restroom. 1.00
00:11:36.000 Right. 1.00
00:11:37.000 You don't have to, right?
00:11:38.000 The point is that all of a sudden you're going to force that person into a very uncomfortable environment for other women, right?
00:11:45.000 The point, most high schools don't have a transgender person, by the way.
00:11:48.000 This is an unpopular opinion, too. 1.00
00:11:50.000 And it's just true.
00:11:53.000 Instead, we have to have this massive upheaval of institutions that generally worked in search of a problem.
00:12:00.000 This is typical of the left, but it gets even worse than this, right?
00:12:03.000 It gets even worse because now we're talking about going after deeply held religious beliefs.
00:12:08.000 And Robert Francis O'Rourke, who ran for president unsuccessfully, calls himself Beto from Texas, the fake Hispanic Irishman who came and he was asked a question.
00:12:17.000 And those of us that watch news closely, we said there's something not right about this when he said, he was asked a question, would you force ministers to marry same-sex couples? 0.99
00:12:26.000 And he said, I would. 1.00
00:12:28.000 That's where this is headed.
00:12:29.000 Yeah.
00:12:29.000 And it doesn't say it explicitly in HR5, but it lays the philosophical and legal groundwork and potentially even the enforcement, where all of a sudden a pastor is going to be saying, you're going to have to marry a same-sex couple, directly against our beliefs in the Bible.
00:12:45.000 And then it goes after pro-life clinics potentially as well.
00:12:48.000 That is of great concern as well.
00:12:50.000 You want to share with us how you see that?
00:12:52.000 And so I'm not sure the specific language.
00:12:55.000 However, based on summaries that I really trust on the bill, that they are including the idea that if you are a healthcare provider, you must also perform abortions.
00:13:07.000 You can't not perform abortions.
00:13:09.000 Because apparently that's providing health care. 1.00
00:13:12.000 Yeah, so they can, abortion is not health care. 1.00
00:13:14.000 Abortion is the opposite of healthcare. 1.00
00:13:16.000 It is the termination of a life.
00:13:17.000 Of a life.
00:13:18.000 And again, here's just as someone's watching this, it's a very simple question for a liberal or a pro-abortion activist: when does life begin?
00:13:26.000 Yeah.
00:13:26.000 And so I was listening to a discussion the other day of a pro-choice guy and Dennis Prager, nice guy, Ayn Rand atheist.
00:13:32.000 I agreed with him on some things, disagreed him on others.
00:13:34.000 He says, well, I don't, I believe it's a fetus.
00:13:37.000 It's, hold on a second.
00:13:38.000 Which is Latin for baby.
00:13:40.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:13:41.000 And so, but the question is, what species is it on the animal kingdom ladder?
00:13:48.000 Is it a Homo sapien or not?
00:13:50.000 And so his argument probably, well, it's not a completely developed one.
00:13:54.000 Oh, but it's still a Homo sapien.
00:13:56.000 It's still a human being.
00:13:58.000 And so unless the argument of the secular pro-abortionists is that somehow a fetus goes through some sort of metamorphosis of a species change, then they can't possibly get over the hump or the hurdle.
00:14:13.000 And I know you guys do some phenomenal work with Seth Grub and otherwise to articulate it.
00:14:16.000 That's a human life.
00:14:18.000 Well, what you're alluding to is the acronym, the sled acronym.
00:14:22.000 The four arguments saying that it's not a human being is size.
00:14:26.000 Yes.
00:14:26.000 So a larger person is less valuable than a smaller person.
00:14:29.000 That's correct.
00:14:30.000 Level of development.
00:14:31.000 So an adolescent is less valuable than a fully grown adult.
00:14:35.000 Environment.
00:14:36.000 Well, so I'm less valuable here in Phoenix than I am in California. 0.64
00:14:40.000 Their strongest argument is degree of dependency because it's dependent on the mother to live.
00:14:44.000 However, does that mean someone who's dependent on oxygen or insulin is less valuable than someone who isn't?
00:14:50.000 And so all those arguments are dispelled.
00:14:52.000 It's a human being.
00:14:53.000 That's what it is.
00:14:54.000 They're wrong on the scientific, the rational, the logical, and the moral.
00:14:58.000 They're wrong on all four.
00:14:59.000 All four. 0.97
00:15:00.000 And so if we were to go to a developmentally disabled clinic here in Phoenix and God forbid someone would take a firearm and kill one of those people, that would be murder.
00:15:12.000 That person is dependent on survival on an oxygen machine or somebody else's assistance. 0.75
00:15:17.000 It's still murder.
00:15:18.000 And so I love the sled acronym.
00:15:20.000 But anyway, going back to the point is that HR5 would mandate the facilitation of abortion services regardless of religious beliefs.
00:15:30.000 So if you're going to be in the healthcare industry and you have a conviction, believing morally and scientifically, that is a termination of our human life.
00:15:39.000 It doesn't matter.
00:15:40.000 You can't practice if you don't participate.
00:15:42.000 That's right.
00:15:43.000 And this whole thing kind of is packaged nicely in a complete perversion of the word equality.
00:15:48.000 Yeah.
00:15:48.000 And so equality.
00:15:49.000 It's usually how government works.
00:15:51.000 It's also how the left works, right?
00:15:52.000 Exactly.
00:15:53.000 And so, equality, we first find equality all the way back in ancient Greek, which I think the word is eleutheria or either isonomia.
00:16:03.000 It's one of the two.
00:16:03.000 I think it's eleutheria.
00:16:04.000 It always meant equality under the law.
00:16:06.000 Always.
00:16:07.000 It was not equality of outcome.
00:16:09.000 And so they're now perverting, well, equality under the law means that someone who might think they're something else, and this is this perversion of justice, right?
00:16:18.000 Where you and I believe that justice should be blind, should be applied equally.
00:16:23.000 It's found in the Torah, right?
00:16:25.000 They think that justice should be partial and subjective based on race, class, and gender.
00:16:31.000 Civil law comes out of moral law.
00:16:34.000 And if there isn't a moral absolute, civil law is open to be weaponized for the subjection of other human beings.
00:16:40.000 Totally.
00:16:41.000 Yeah.
00:16:41.000 And one of the biggest problems is that the academy and how we educate our children teaches that there's no such thing as absolute truth.
00:16:50.000 And it is an extension of postmodernism.
00:16:53.000 It's an extension of secular nihilism.
00:16:56.000 And so if you remove any form of absolutes, then we all just have a bunch of strongly worded opinions.
00:17:04.000 So we've got two bills here by your description that are of great concern in this country.
00:17:11.000 You should be with everyone.
00:17:13.000 Most people are unaware or ignorant of it or just haven't had time to examine it like you have.
00:17:19.000 Now you've made us aware.
00:17:22.000 What is please, God, is there a snowball's chance in hell of these things happening?
00:17:26.000 Are these going to pass with our elected officials?
00:17:29.000 Where do these stand right now in the halls of government with those who govern by our consent?
00:17:35.000 First of all, that they'd even be entertained, let alone passed.
00:17:38.000 Help us, Charlie.
00:17:39.000 What do we got going on here?
00:17:40.000 I did an entire podcast on this, and I'm not one to give praise to Democrats, but I will hear because they deserve it.
00:17:48.000 So there is a parliamentary precedent in the United States Senate. 0.94
00:17:53.000 The Senate's a very goofy place.
00:17:55.000 It is a lot of rules, a lot of procedure I don't even understand, but I understand enough to be able to explain this component of it, which there's something called the filibuster.
00:18:04.000 You've probably heard this before.
00:18:06.000 Strom Thurman most famously used it and talked for 23 hours straight to try to kill the Civil Rights Act.
00:18:13.000 But the filibuster basically requires 60 votes to then get a vote on a bill.
00:18:19.000 So basically, you have to vote to see if we want to go vote on a bill.
00:18:22.000 It's a two-step, sometimes a three-step, sometimes a four-step process, right?
00:18:26.000 You have to get cloture, end of debate, all these sorts of things.
00:18:29.000 Okay.
00:18:29.000 And so the filibuster most famously got put into question under Barack Obama with then Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
00:18:38.000 Black guy Harry.
00:18:40.000 Yes, who famously got a black guy because he fell on a treadmill.
00:18:44.000 Apparently. 0.74
00:18:44.000 Allegedly. 0.74
00:18:46.000 Harry Reid comes up in 2013 and says, Hey, I'm sick of this.
00:18:50.000 We have all these judges we want to put on the circuit court.
00:18:53.000 I'm going to break the filibuster, which basically says I'm only going to require a majority vote.
00:19:00.000 Now, the filibuster is not constitutional.
00:19:02.000 It's not.
00:19:02.000 It's precedent.
00:19:03.000 Thomas Jefferson said, I want the Senate to be a majoritarian body.
00:19:07.000 Other founding fathers disagreed.
00:19:08.000 The point is that it is a measure that was put in to try to get bipartisan consensus.
00:19:13.000 Basically, we should not change the way we do things quickly without both parties agreeing.
00:19:19.000 Now, the filibuster has been played with many different times.
00:19:22.000 Obamacare was passed the 59 votes because they said it was deficit neutral.
00:19:26.000 There's all sorts of different ways to play with it.
00:19:28.000 But the biggest one was in 2013 when Harry Reid said, okay, we're now going to do appointments by majority up or down vote.
00:19:35.000 And this was Mitch McConnell gave that famous speech and said, you're going to regret this.
00:19:38.000 We're going to put it against you.
00:19:39.000 All this, there's going to be a time when you're going to be the minority, all of that. 0.99
00:19:42.000 Okay.
00:19:42.000 So then, fast forward to Justice Antonin and Scalia dying in February of 2016, vacancy on the Supreme Court.
00:19:50.000 Mitch McConnell keeps it open.
00:19:51.000 Donald Trump wins the presidency.
00:19:53.000 They want to fill the seat.
00:19:54.000 They nominate Neil Gorsuch and Mitch McConnell says, well, you guys told me we can do appointments by just an up or down vote.
00:20:00.000 Neil Gorsuch was confirmed, I think, with 53 or 54 votes.
00:20:04.000 Same with Brett Kavanaugh with 51 or 52, and then Amy Coney Barrett for 51, 52.
00:20:09.000 Most of Trump's cabinet was approved by just an up or down vote.
00:20:12.000 So appointments are now done based on precedent, based by an up or down 51 vote, all you need, or even 50 if you have the tiebreaker, the vice president.
00:20:20.000 The tax cut bill passed in 2017, because it was a revenue bill.
00:20:25.000 McConnell said we're going to allow an up or down vote of 51.
00:20:29.000 However, big structural changes, such as HR1, HR5, adding another seat to the Supreme Court, adding new states, you still have to get over the filibuster.
00:20:41.000 So what does that mean?
00:20:42.000 Well, to break the filibuster, you need to get 50 people to agree to then break the filibuster.
00:20:47.000 I know this might say, what does that mean?
00:20:49.000 Here's the long short of it.
00:20:50.000 This is good.
00:20:50.000 You need every Democrat to agree.
00:20:52.000 Right.
00:20:53.000 Joe Manchin and Kirsten Cinema.
00:20:55.000 God bless them both.
00:20:56.000 Seriously.
00:20:57.000 Non-sarcastic.
00:20:58.000 Not sarcastic.
00:20:59.000 Have said, we will not vote to eliminate the filibuster.
00:21:04.000 So essentially.
00:21:05.000 I'm going to send them both a Christmas card.
00:21:06.000 You know, and I've praised them on air, and I said they have more courage than most Republicans do.
00:21:10.000 And it's true.
00:21:10.000 I disagree with them on abortion.
00:21:12.000 I disagree with them on borders.
00:21:13.000 Now, why are they doing this?
00:21:15.000 Why are the Democrats all two Democrats getting in the way of massive societal fundamental transformation? 0.97
00:21:21.000 Well, they're not dumb.
00:21:22.000 They just made themselves the most powerful people in Washington, D.C. Exactly. 0.86
00:21:25.000 Every piece of legislation has to go past the desk of cinema and Manchin. 0.94
00:21:29.000 They just took the power away from Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Ward, and they made themselves the kings of the Senate.
00:21:34.000 Anything important has to go through them, has to get their stamp of approval.
00:21:38.000 HR1 and HR5 are top-tier priorities of the Democrats.
00:21:41.000 Manchin has said, I am not going to vote to lift the filibuster.
00:21:45.000 The only reason that it might is if they can get some form of an opinion from Senate parliamentarians saying, oh, HR1 doesn't require a filibuster lift.
00:21:55.000 I don't think that's going to happen.
00:21:56.000 Every legal scholar says it should be safe.
00:21:59.000 So with all that being equal, it is unlikely that HR1 and HR5 pass the United States Senate, but it's not impossible.
00:22:06.000 Powers it be, people that are kind of in the puppet master class in our country can start working the phones and say, Manchin and cinema, for one thing, you're going to vote to lift the filibuster.
00:22:16.000 So with all of those facts being known, public pressure on these people, but not public pressure.
00:22:23.000 I think public praise is where we need to go.
00:22:25.000 Exactly.
00:22:26.000 I think that we need to put on positive encouragement to cinema and manchin saying, thank you.
00:22:32.000 Please don't lift the filibuster.
00:22:35.000 That's the sort of praise I think they need.
00:22:37.000 More of carrot, less stick.
00:22:38.000 It's easier to move someone than it is to remove someone.
00:22:42.000 Yes.
00:22:43.000 And I agree.
00:22:44.000 And move them with praise.
00:22:45.000 And most senators hear nothing but negative because most of what they do is terrible.
00:22:49.000 And so, but the fact that HR1 and HR5, the fact we even have to, and if you say, what is HR?
00:22:55.000 I mean, it's House resolution, okay?
00:22:57.000 The fact that we even have to seriously consider this, Rob, shows that we have a majority of House members that want to destroy the church as we know it in America and fundamentally change the way we do elections.
00:23:10.000 If you look at the religious liberty clauses in the Canadian government, their Constitution, they're almost equal, if not similar, to our own First Amendment.
00:23:22.000 And you currently, I think he still is, you have a pastor who's in jail for preaching the gospel.
00:23:29.000 And yet you say it'll never happen in America.
00:23:32.000 Well, it's in Canada now, and they have the exact same First Amendment, basically, religious liberty, freedom of speech.
00:23:41.000 And he's in prison for doing nothing more than preaching the gospel during a pandemic with a virus that has over a 99% survival rate.
00:23:50.000 Do you know why he's in jail?
00:23:51.000 Share with everybody.
00:23:52.000 Because the people aren't mad enough.
00:23:54.000 Exactly.
00:23:56.000 And I haven't heard a lot of pushback from churches, especially Canadian churches.
00:24:00.000 No, most churches don't care.
00:24:01.000 Yeah.
00:24:02.000 So, and we're going to change it.
00:24:03.000 There's some good.
00:24:04.000 There's a great pastor out there.
00:24:05.000 There's some great pastors out there.
00:24:06.000 I had a great meeting about this last night, naming the good guys.
00:24:08.000 And I've called out, you know, the cowards, you know, the Andy Stanleys, the Rick Warrens.
00:24:12.000 And I'd love to talk to them. 0.62
00:24:13.000 You know, I'd love to have a conversation with them.
00:24:15.000 Anytime.
00:24:15.000 But, you know, they're a big reason why America's in the place it is.
00:24:18.000 And I tweeted out, and I said, when is Rick Warren and Andy Stanley going to talk about how the American church very well might become criminalized under the Equality Act?
00:24:27.000 And, you know, Rick Warren, who's a California pastor, says God doesn't care how you vote.
00:24:32.000 According to Rick Warren, there's no difference between the parties, no difference between the genders.
00:24:36.000 Love is going to heal everything.
00:24:38.000 And I mention him by name on purpose because he's one of America's largest pastors.
00:24:43.000 He sold one of the most, I think the third best-selling Christian book of all time outside of C.S. Lewis and maybe Max Lucato.
00:24:52.000 He wrote Purpose-Driven Life.
00:24:53.000 Right.
00:24:54.000 Millions of copies.
00:24:55.000 And he's a very gifted orator.
00:24:57.000 He is.
00:24:58.000 But he is carrying water for some very, very dark forces.
00:25:03.000 You know, my life was blessed by his.
00:25:05.000 Me too.
00:25:06.000 And I got a chance to meet him.
00:25:08.000 He spoke into my life.
00:25:09.000 I was grateful for it.
00:25:11.000 Here I am 56 years old.
00:25:12.000 I was a seminary student back then.
00:25:15.000 And I'm looking and I'm thinking, what has happened to this great man?
00:25:19.000 Because the gospel brings freedom.
00:25:21.000 And they talk in their church because I read the letter in response to asking them to open.
00:25:25.000 I was just emailing him.
00:25:26.000 Yeah.
00:25:27.000 And I read that response and the response was shocking to me that, well, we're open for our homeless ministries and we're open for our counseling ministries, but we don't want to endanger the public.
00:25:36.000 And I said, endanger the public?
00:25:39.000 What about the abused being quarantined with the abusers?
00:25:41.000 You heard what I said.
00:25:42.000 You were great.
00:25:43.000 And I laid that out and I think you're complicit.
00:25:46.000 And you say you're not political, but you are because you're fishing downstream to collect the human waste you helped create by not standing in opposition to the tyranny that created the state that has the number one homeless rate in America and the number one poverty rate in America.
00:26:04.000 Yeah, I think that, look, Rick Warren's failing his test.
00:26:06.000 Yeah.
00:26:07.000 And I hope he changes quite a lot.
00:26:08.000 Please, Rick.
00:26:09.000 Pastor Rick, please.
00:26:11.000 He's being tested.
00:26:12.000 And I don't like going after people's intentions.
00:26:15.000 I really don't because they usually are a lot more complicated than just one or two.
00:26:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:20.000 Whatever his intention is, the action and the result are devastating and devastating.
00:26:25.000 And also other pastors look up to him.
00:26:27.000 And so other pastors say, well, Rick Warren says it doesn't matter how you vote.
00:26:30.000 There's no difference between whether or not there's no difference.
00:26:33.000 You know what that's saying?
00:26:34.000 Rick Warren basically said there's no difference between Planned Parenthood and a pregnancy crisis crisis.
00:26:41.000 Rick Warren has said planned parenthood and a pregnancy crisis center are moral equivalents.
00:26:45.000 That's Rick Warren's position.
00:26:48.000 That's not the Lord's position.
00:26:49.000 No, it's not.
00:26:50.000 And it's not the biblical decision.
00:26:52.000 And again, I want to offer grace to him.
00:26:54.000 Maybe he's confused.
00:26:55.000 Maybe there's a lot of different forces.
00:26:56.000 Again, intentions are tough.
00:26:58.000 Now, we got on Rick Warren specifically around HR5.
00:27:02.000 So now here's a chance for all the pastors watching, for the people watching on this, you should really email your pastor and say, hey, why haven't you given a public sermon about HR5?
00:27:12.000 You know, Rob, it was amazing.
00:27:13.000 I sat down with some people recently, Christians, great people.
00:27:16.000 They're like, what's HR5?
00:27:18.000 I said, has your pastor not?
00:27:19.000 They said, no, our pastor doesn't get involved in politics.
00:27:22.000 He says politics is unbiblical.
00:27:23.000 I said, really?
00:27:24.000 Unbiblical.
00:27:25.000 So Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Joseph, when they got involved in secular government, God's purpose, that was unbiblical.
00:27:31.000 Besides that, besides the fact that they've decided to take an expo marker, a scissors, and white out to the Bible, how on earth does he even think you're going to function as soon as the Equality Act is passed?
00:27:45.000 You saw the clip with Senator Paul contending with Dr. Levin.
00:27:50.000 The man who thinks he's a woman.
00:27:51.000 Yeah, the man who thinks he's a woman. 0.56
00:27:54.000 And he's laying out, saying, This is, you're mutilating children. 1.00
00:27:58.000 That's correct. 0.99
00:27:59.000 Their sexual organs. 1.00
00:28:01.000 What they do in the Islamic world, you're doing to them. 1.00
00:28:04.000 Will you renounce that? 1.00
00:28:05.000 And twice he refused.
00:28:09.000 He, she refused to answer the question.
00:28:11.000 Yes.
00:28:12.000 And did the whole thing, I look forward to working with you and the whatever.
00:28:17.000 You're dealing with mutilating adolescents in scam, pseudo, whatever science.
00:28:25.000 It's tragic.
00:28:26.000 Where's the church?
00:28:28.000 Yeah, the church is missing.
00:28:30.000 And for a couple, I mean, there's fear, there's uncertainty.
00:28:34.000 And I could tell you this: for everyone watching out there, I've gone to the college campuses wearing a shirt that says there are only two genders.
00:28:40.000 I've defended this position for years.
00:28:43.000 The science is on your side.
00:28:45.000 Yeah.
00:28:45.000 It's not that hard or that bad when you get death threats.
00:28:48.000 You'll get over it.
00:28:49.000 And not only is science on your side, so is the Bible.
00:28:53.000 But here's the important point.
00:28:54.000 Unity.
00:28:55.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:28:56.000 There's not one scientific fact that is incongruent with the Bible.
00:28:59.000 Exactly.
00:29:00.000 Not one.
00:29:00.000 Spherical earth, germ theory, the idea of infectious diseases, quarantining the sick.
00:29:06.000 It's all there.
00:29:07.000 It's all there.
00:29:08.000 There is not one thing the Bible commands you to do that is not good for you, that does not make you live a long and prosperous life, that is inconsistent with the teachings of the Bible.
00:29:15.000 I mean, it's going to be the teachings of the discoveries of science.
00:29:17.000 In fact, science has only confirmed what the Bible has only told us.
00:29:21.000 That's a side note.
00:29:22.000 Sorry.
00:29:23.000 Oh, that's okay.
00:29:24.000 People need to hear that, Charlie.
00:29:26.000 You can't say it enough.
00:29:28.000 I would also add, and I think this is good for our pastors to hear.
00:29:32.000 If we don't, look, let's put our eschatological differences aside, pre-tria, premillennial, post-tria, post-millennial, reformed, Arminian.
00:29:46.000 Let's put it aside for this.
00:29:50.000 If we don't start defending liberty, we're going to argue those theological terms from prison.
00:29:57.000 Pastors, Jesus came to set the captives free.
00:30:01.000 He's come that you might have life and life more abundant.
00:30:05.000 Exodus is setting captives free.
00:30:07.000 You'll know the truth and the truth will set you free.
00:30:10.000 Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there's liberty.
00:30:12.000 Why are we putting this yoke of bondage on our children, especially in Charlie?
00:30:17.000 Nobody, in my estimation, has covered critical race theory better than you.
00:30:23.000 Now, Vodi Bachman, a number of others, they've done great jobs.
00:30:26.000 Voteies, phenomenal.
00:30:27.000 Phenomenal. 0.98
00:30:29.000 With that being said, we have churches and Christian schools embracing critical race theory. 0.55
00:30:37.000 And in California, while we have a church that's facing $2 million in fines and a threat to imprison the pastors, and there's 15,000 calls going unanswered to their crisis hotline in Santa Clara County, and we have the largest number of opioid overdose deaths in the history of the country, and churches are the target.
00:31:00.000 Pastors, liberty is God's idea, not man's idea.
00:31:04.000 We got to stand.
00:31:06.000 I agree.
00:31:07.000 And, Charlie, you have equipped so many pastors to understand this.
00:31:11.000 Thank you.
00:31:12.000 I consider it an honor to be a part of what you're doing.
00:31:16.000 You bless me more than you know.
00:31:17.000 Well, thank you.
00:31:19.000 And likewise, it goes right back towards you for giving me confidence to actually speak in the Christian world because I, you know, we talked about this many times.
00:31:28.000 I just didn't think pastors or churches were very engaged or involved in this.
00:31:33.000 But to the critical race theory aspect of this and what the driving component behind this that I think people have to realize is that it is very tempting to want to find a new thing that makes you feel good but does not do good.
00:31:49.000 Right.
00:31:50.000 And critical race theory is sound bites packaged in evil, immoral philosophy.
00:31:56.000 Marxism.
00:31:57.000 Marxism, postmodernism, secular nihilism.
00:32:01.000 The list goes on.
00:32:02.000 And so the critical theory in general, who came from Michelle Foucault, not Michelle Foucault, Herbert Marcuza, Michelle Foucault talked about it.
00:32:10.000 So did Jacques Derrida.
00:32:11.000 It's all French to me, and it should be to you.
00:32:13.000 Point is that it's all a bunch of rubbish, and it really is some of the most dangerous, insidious, divisive ideas nicely packaged into something that is so pernicious to our culture, and that word means dangerous, to what we are, what we're actually trying to advance, what we're trying to defend. 0.97
00:32:32.000 And so, look, it's a testing moment for the American church.
00:32:37.000 And so, Rob, you've been on the cutting edge of this.
00:32:40.000 You understand all of this really well.
00:32:42.000 But for churches that have not yet, first of all, they're not open yet.
00:32:46.000 Oh, my goodness.
00:32:47.000 But that's a different topic for a different time.
00:32:49.000 And they're not commenting on this, but even kind of parents that might be watching this and Christian, I understand it could be confusing.
00:32:58.000 And James Lindsay, atheist, liberal, I've plugged his book, Cynical Theories.
00:33:03.000 You've talked to him.
00:33:03.000 He's great.
00:33:04.000 He has a great line where he says, this stuff sounds so outrageous and so new, you think you're dumb because it doesn't make sense. 0.99
00:33:15.000 When in reality, what they're saying is dumb. 1.00
00:33:19.000 They're like, oh, well, don't you know that everything is racist and all white people are racist? 1.00
00:33:24.000 And I have a doctorate from Stanford. 0.84
00:33:27.000 When in reality, that person has given, he or she has run out of things to actually study and research that are meaningful, that they go create these ridiculous theories that give them a platform and give them relevancy.
00:33:40.000 And so, look, I know that you've gone through a little dispute locally.
00:33:43.000 I want to encourage you.
00:33:44.000 What you've done there is the right thing.
00:33:46.000 Critical race theory is an immoral, evil viewpoint, philosophy that must be stopped at all costs.
00:33:53.000 You know, I want to commend that school that we addressed the concern over one of the speakers because they said, let's not have the speaker come.
00:34:03.000 That takes a lot of courage for that school to do that.
00:34:07.000 Why that speaker was coming in the first place is beyond me.
00:34:09.000 Everybody's got to learn, right?
00:34:13.000 You always hear me say this.
00:34:14.000 People aren't the enemy.
00:34:14.000 They're the opportunity.
00:34:16.000 Ideas are the enemy.
00:34:18.000 Specific ideas are the enemy that want to enslave human beings and pit us against one another.
00:34:24.000 And David Engelhardt's message out of Galatians. 0.99
00:34:28.000 That's really good.
00:34:28.000 I just ripped him off on Sunday.
00:34:30.000 Lock, stock, and barrel.
00:34:32.000 Good preachers borrow, great preachers steal.
00:34:33.000 That's a joke.
00:34:34.000 Relax, everybody. 1.00
00:34:36.000 But Galatians, this idea that we're given the gospel, why are we putting this yoke on our children? 0.92
00:34:43.000 That they're to walk around because of their immutable trait, that they somehow have to make restitution for sins that happened in the 1800s. 0.58
00:34:55.000 That just doesn't make any sense.
00:34:57.000 No, it doesn't make sense, but it makes sense if you're trying to destroy decent and civil society.
00:35:01.000 Right.
00:35:01.000 And you want the church to buy in.
00:35:04.000 Last thing, because I know we both got to go.
00:35:07.000 Can you just say you've been excited because when we listened to Bill Federer?
00:35:13.000 Yeah, he was great. 0.95
00:35:14.000 He brought up the black American communist. 0.98
00:35:18.000 Yeah, I have his name here, Manning Johnson. 0.94
00:35:20.000 Manning Johnson.
00:35:21.000 And both you and I are like digging to find this book and read it.
00:35:25.000 This is really good.
00:35:26.000 It's like this isn't new.
00:35:28.000 And he covered it all.
00:35:30.000 Yeah, it isn't.
00:35:31.000 And but it's also, it's predictable, right?
00:35:34.000 Yeah, it is.
00:35:35.000 So, you know, the enemy always wants to try and call out, call out you in a way that wants to make you dwell in your sin or your flaws, and Jesus liberates you from that.
00:35:50.000 And that's why I really believe that postmodernism and critical race theory is rooted in a pattern of that is parallel to how the enemy acts and all throughout the Bible, all throughout the scriptures, through temptation, through false promises, through earthly enrichment, all of it.
00:36:07.000 And the same could be said through American history of this same sort of race, class, and gender struggle that manifests itself through different ways.
00:36:15.000 And I say this all the time: that if your biggest concern is existential, about systemic racism, and you can't really describe it, you have a really good life.
00:36:25.000 If your biggest concern is something that's a great line, if your biggest concern is climate change, the people in the slums of India would yearn for a day to worry about something that is not sanitation, survival, and nourishment.
00:36:44.000 They would love it.
00:36:45.000 You know what it means when you think the biggest concern is climate change?
00:36:48.000 You're probably eating three meals a day.
00:36:50.000 You probably don't have a severe threat of being shot on the streets every day.
00:36:54.000 Or sailing on the yacht to America.
00:36:55.000 Whatever it means.
00:36:56.000 To come and tell them about the existential crisis.
00:36:59.000 This repetition of the looming existential threat, systemic racism, public health crisis.
00:37:05.000 The climate change, you know, meteor is going to fall out of the sky if we don't get rid of all fossil fuels.
00:37:10.000 It actually just takes a step back: like, wow, you're living a really good life.
00:37:13.000 You have it so much better than you could imagine.
00:37:15.000 And it's just kind of a rule of thumb where you've designed your whole life around being mad about something outside of you.
00:37:26.000 Only people that are well-fed can believe such things.
00:37:29.000 To your point about Manning Johnson, I could dive into it deeper, but it's not dissimilar to that's the sort of tactic that they try to employ against us.
00:37:37.000 Yeah.
00:37:37.000 Well, Charlie, going from here, from your vantage point, sitting across from a pastor of a church, what would you want the church to do on behalf of all these issues?
00:37:48.000 If you could speak to them, what would you want to say?
00:37:52.000 Communicate, educate, grow your influence, be unafraid about any sort of potential backlash or consequence, but be very rational, reasonable, and logical.
00:38:01.000 My one critique of a political act of church is a misinformed political act of church.
00:38:06.000 So for every church I compliment, I also quietly try to say, okay, no, Donald Trump's not going to be president on March 6th.
00:38:13.000 And that's something that happens.
00:38:15.000 And, you know, lovingly, there are people in our orbit that have kind of got into that because being politically active is awesome, but do it rationally, logically, and reasonably.
00:38:26.000 And you say, what does that mean?
00:38:28.000 It's my, we don't do a perfect job of it, but we do a pretty good job on our program.
00:38:32.000 If we're talking about it, then it's within probably a framework of what's been vetted.
00:38:36.000 Does that make sense, Rob?
00:38:37.000 I think that's an important thing.
00:38:38.000 It's critical.
00:38:39.000 Vet it.
00:38:40.000 If you're wrong, admit it.
00:38:41.000 And ask for wisdom.
00:38:42.000 And ask for wisdom.
00:38:43.000 For example, I used a read a C.S. Lewis quote given to me by a source.
00:38:49.000 I didn't vet it.
00:38:51.000 I assume the guy was honest and accurate.
00:38:54.000 Came to find out by Vishal Magdawaldi, who's on the C.S. Lewis Foundation.
00:39:00.000 It wasn't a C.S. Lewis quote.
00:39:01.000 I corrected it.
00:39:03.000 Showed the clip of Dr. Loritz saying it was from Oaks Christian.
00:39:07.000 It wasn't.
00:39:08.000 Still studying that.
00:39:09.000 I haven't brought that out, but I'm still studying the doctorate side of it.
00:39:13.000 So I corrected it.
00:39:14.000 If you're wrong, correct it.
00:39:15.000 Totally.
00:39:16.000 And do the best to vet your sources.
00:39:19.000 Good call, Charlie, on that one.
00:39:20.000 Yeah.
00:39:20.000 But no, the church right now needs to.
00:39:22.000 Look, it's a very simple equation that I have.
00:39:26.000 That which built will save.
00:39:28.000 The church built the country.
00:39:29.000 It'll save it or it's be its demise.
00:39:31.000 That's simple.
00:39:32.000 There is no other community.
00:39:33.000 There is no other parcel of political power left.
00:39:36.000 Every other institution has been completely secularized and weaponized by the left.
00:39:40.000 The corporations, the civil service, academia, media communication, Hollywood, all of it.
00:39:45.000 The only thing that is left is churches like Godspeak and churches like Jack Kibbs and churches like Cody Kools and Ken Graves and Frank Ramsor.
00:39:53.000 That's it.
00:39:54.000 And so the question is, will Jürgen Matisias?
00:39:57.000 You can go on and on.
00:39:58.000 Mike McClure, yeah.
00:39:59.000 You know, the Barnetts and his family.
00:40:00.000 Amen.
00:40:01.000 Bless them all.
00:40:02.000 List is great.
00:40:02.000 The point is, will the Ecclesia, the public square, unify around Isonomia and Eleutheria, freedom and equality, and say, you know what?
00:40:09.000 No, we are going to contest for every square inch.
00:40:12.000 And I think that the church is going to be really surprised at how effective they are.
00:40:16.000 I think that Christians are going to be surprised at how much more clarity you'll have at viewing the news cycle and your life.
00:40:25.000 And the final thing I'll say on this, Rob, is that I think the church is also going to be surprised that any fear they have of backlash is mostly the enemy whispering in their ear.
00:40:33.000 And the realities are actually going to make new friends, have more of a positive influence.
00:40:37.000 And they'll look back and like, I was afraid of what?
00:40:39.000 A couple bad Facebook comments being called the R-word.
00:40:42.000 And I'm not diminishing social pressure or potential career cost or all of that, but I think it pales in comparison with the moral obligation and prerogative to get engaged and involved in the public square.
00:40:51.000 That's a good one to end on.
00:40:54.000 I want to emphasize that this quite possibly could be the church's finest hour.
00:41:02.000 When you say that all of these other institutions have been compromised and what's left is the church, the church has always been the protector and the source of liberty.
00:41:17.000 And I will finish finish with this.
00:41:19.000 There's no guarantee the church will pass the test.
00:41:22.000 No.
00:41:22.000 There's plenty of instances in other countries where the church is complicit.
00:41:28.000 Love hopes all things, I believe.
00:41:30.000 No, I only say that to add a little urgency.
00:41:31.000 I understand.
00:41:32.000 If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and turn from their wicked ways of apathy and inactivity, then I will hear from heaven and heal their land.
00:41:40.000 So, Charlie Kirk, thank you.
00:41:42.000 God bless you guys.
00:41:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:41:53.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:41:54.000 God bless.
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