00:00:42.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:18.000So, yeah, we were driving in the car yesterday, and I was saying, I was explaining parts of HR1, HR5, and I thought I was just being repetitious, but actually, I think that some people need to hear it, and we need to go through it.
00:02:32.000So let me tell you the essence of each bill.
00:02:35.000HR1 is universal mail-in voting, which would basically federally mandate federal funding that every single human being in the North American continent gets a ballot.
00:02:43.000Now, it's a little bit of an over-exaggeration, but not totally.
00:02:59.000They just show up at every door, basically.
00:03:01.000Essentially, and it would be money you have to spend, duplicate ballots, you name it.
00:03:05.000It would be nationalizing our elections, going against what the Constitution clearly says, that state legislatures have to be the ones that are involved, not just involved, but are the ones that designate how elections are actually done in their states.
00:03:20.000They want to basically turn the entire country into California, basically.
00:03:23.000And as a Californian, I don't want that.
00:03:44.000The long and short of it is that HR5, which has passed the House and it's now pending in front of the Senate, basically will expand the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include gender identity.
00:05:05.000But let's just talk about the danger that it poses.
00:05:08.000Basically, what one interpretation of the law could be, which I believe is as written, is if you hold a biblical view of marriage, one man, one woman, God created man, God created women, woman, that is right there in Genesis.
00:05:23.000It's as clear as can be, then you are violating the Civil Rights Act, an extension of it.
00:05:32.000Now, the argument that they're making, the transgender activists, the LGBT activists, they say that transgender people need the same protections that blacks needed back in the 1960s.
00:05:44.000We all remember those times, Jim Crow, segregation, poll taxes, legitimate racial discrimination.
00:05:50.000The problem is that they are drafting a solution in search of a problem.
00:05:54.000There is no evidence of widespread discrimination against transgender people.
00:05:57.000There is not massive issues happening where transgender people are not able to move up in society, get careers.
00:06:05.000And also, we're talking about a very, very minimal portion of the American population.
00:06:10.000So basically, what the Equality Act does, there's like six or seven major components.
00:06:14.000If I could walk through just some of them, please.
00:06:16.000The major problem here is that it broadens the definition of what needs to be a protected class in America.
00:06:25.000So they are now saying a protected class basically is anyone who is gender fluid.
00:06:32.000So for example, Rob, potentially, you as a minister, as running a church, you might have to go against your biblical beliefs to say, well, I have to now endorse or tolerate someone with a transgender lifestyle or someone.
00:06:50.000So let's say you're running an adoption clinic.
00:06:52.000And you say, we believe marriage is one man, one woman at our adoption clinic at Godspeak, right?
00:06:57.000The Equality Act could potentially put government sanctions, government penalties saying, no, you believe in biblical marriage.
00:07:04.000Therefore, your adoption clinic can't run.
00:07:06.000We're going to tax you, sanction you, put you in court.
00:07:09.000The penalty is not exactly specified, but the penalty nevertheless is threatened.
00:07:15.000Another part of this, which is just the obvious part, it's not even a religious component of it, is it will basically say there's no thing whatsoever such as protection of women-only activities.
00:09:33.000But instead of saying, hold on a second, we have a very small portion of American society.
00:09:39.000Let's try to accommodate voluntarily through institutions, through people being decent to one another, some form of adjustments.
00:09:49.000We are now going to use the heavy brute force of the federal government to say, if you do not allow biological men into female sports, you could lose attack status.
00:09:59.000You could then be under criminal sanctions.
00:10:03.000And so what we're seeing here is the opposite of tolerance.
00:10:07.000We're now seeing the intolerant assume the badge of tolerance and use the full force of the federal government to say, we're going to punish you if you don't go about doing this.
00:10:18.000And I'm just, I'm asking, I ask a very simple question.
00:11:17.000You accommodate, because of our biblical view of compassion, any sort of arrangement to say, okay, instead of saying that the man who thinks he's a woman should go in the woman's locker room, why doesn't that person maybe just change in the restroom?
00:11:53.000Instead, we have to have this massive upheaval of institutions that generally worked in search of a problem.
00:12:00.000This is typical of the left, but it gets even worse than this, right?
00:12:03.000It gets even worse because now we're talking about going after deeply held religious beliefs.
00:12:08.000And Robert Francis O'Rourke, who ran for president unsuccessfully, calls himself Beto from Texas, the fake Hispanic Irishman who came and he was asked a question.
00:12:17.000And those of us that watch news closely, we said there's something not right about this when he said, he was asked a question, would you force ministers to marry same-sex couples?
00:12:29.000And it doesn't say it explicitly in HR5, but it lays the philosophical and legal groundwork and potentially even the enforcement, where all of a sudden a pastor is going to be saying, you're going to have to marry a same-sex couple, directly against our beliefs in the Bible.
00:12:45.000And then it goes after pro-life clinics potentially as well.
00:12:50.000You want to share with us how you see that?
00:12:52.000And so I'm not sure the specific language.
00:12:55.000However, based on summaries that I really trust on the bill, that they are including the idea that if you are a healthcare provider, you must also perform abortions.
00:13:18.000And again, here's just as someone's watching this, it's a very simple question for a liberal or a pro-abortion activist: when does life begin?
00:13:58.000And so unless the argument of the secular pro-abortionists is that somehow a fetus goes through some sort of metamorphosis of a species change, then they can't possibly get over the hump or the hurdle.
00:14:13.000And I know you guys do some phenomenal work with Seth Grub and otherwise to articulate it.
00:15:00.000And so if we were to go to a developmentally disabled clinic here in Phoenix and God forbid someone would take a firearm and kill one of those people, that would be murder.
00:15:12.000That person is dependent on survival on an oxygen machine or somebody else's assistance.
00:15:20.000But anyway, going back to the point is that HR5 would mandate the facilitation of abortion services regardless of religious beliefs.
00:15:30.000So if you're going to be in the healthcare industry and you have a conviction, believing morally and scientifically, that is a termination of our human life.
00:16:09.000And so they're now perverting, well, equality under the law means that someone who might think they're something else, and this is this perversion of justice, right?
00:16:18.000Where you and I believe that justice should be blind, should be applied equally.
00:17:55.000It is a lot of rules, a lot of procedure I don't even understand, but I understand enough to be able to explain this component of it, which there's something called the filibuster.
00:19:54.000They nominate Neil Gorsuch and Mitch McConnell says, well, you guys told me we can do appointments by just an up or down vote.
00:20:00.000Neil Gorsuch was confirmed, I think, with 53 or 54 votes.
00:20:04.000Same with Brett Kavanaugh with 51 or 52, and then Amy Coney Barrett for 51, 52.
00:20:09.000Most of Trump's cabinet was approved by just an up or down vote.
00:20:12.000So appointments are now done based on precedent, based by an up or down 51 vote, all you need, or even 50 if you have the tiebreaker, the vice president.
00:20:20.000The tax cut bill passed in 2017, because it was a revenue bill.
00:20:25.000McConnell said we're going to allow an up or down vote of 51.
00:20:29.000However, big structural changes, such as HR1, HR5, adding another seat to the Supreme Court, adding new states, you still have to get over the filibuster.
00:21:22.000They just made themselves the most powerful people in Washington, D.C. Exactly.
00:21:25.000Every piece of legislation has to go past the desk of cinema and Manchin.
00:21:29.000They just took the power away from Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Ward, and they made themselves the kings of the Senate.
00:21:34.000Anything important has to go through them, has to get their stamp of approval.
00:21:38.000HR1 and HR5 are top-tier priorities of the Democrats.
00:21:41.000Manchin has said, I am not going to vote to lift the filibuster.
00:21:45.000The only reason that it might is if they can get some form of an opinion from Senate parliamentarians saying, oh, HR1 doesn't require a filibuster lift.
00:21:56.000Every legal scholar says it should be safe.
00:21:59.000So with all that being equal, it is unlikely that HR1 and HR5 pass the United States Senate, but it's not impossible.
00:22:06.000Powers it be, people that are kind of in the puppet master class in our country can start working the phones and say, Manchin and cinema, for one thing, you're going to vote to lift the filibuster.
00:22:16.000So with all of those facts being known, public pressure on these people, but not public pressure.
00:22:23.000I think public praise is where we need to go.
00:22:57.000The fact that we even have to seriously consider this, Rob, shows that we have a majority of House members that want to destroy the church as we know it in America and fundamentally change the way we do elections.
00:23:10.000If you look at the religious liberty clauses in the Canadian government, their Constitution, they're almost equal, if not similar, to our own First Amendment.
00:23:22.000And you currently, I think he still is, you have a pastor who's in jail for preaching the gospel.
00:23:29.000And yet you say it'll never happen in America.
00:23:32.000Well, it's in Canada now, and they have the exact same First Amendment, basically, religious liberty, freedom of speech.
00:23:41.000And he's in prison for doing nothing more than preaching the gospel during a pandemic with a virus that has over a 99% survival rate.
00:24:15.000But, you know, they're a big reason why America's in the place it is.
00:24:18.000And I tweeted out, and I said, when is Rick Warren and Andy Stanley going to talk about how the American church very well might become criminalized under the Equality Act?
00:24:27.000And, you know, Rick Warren, who's a California pastor, says God doesn't care how you vote.
00:24:32.000According to Rick Warren, there's no difference between the parties, no difference between the genders.
00:25:27.000And I read that response and the response was shocking to me that, well, we're open for our homeless ministries and we're open for our counseling ministries, but we don't want to endanger the public.
00:25:43.000And I laid that out and I think you're complicit.
00:25:46.000And you say you're not political, but you are because you're fishing downstream to collect the human waste you helped create by not standing in opposition to the tyranny that created the state that has the number one homeless rate in America and the number one poverty rate in America.
00:26:04.000Yeah, I think that, look, Rick Warren's failing his test.
00:26:58.000Now, we got on Rick Warren specifically around HR5.
00:27:02.000So now here's a chance for all the pastors watching, for the people watching on this, you should really email your pastor and say, hey, why haven't you given a public sermon about HR5?
00:27:25.000So Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Joseph, when they got involved in secular government, God's purpose, that was unbiblical.
00:27:31.000Besides that, besides the fact that they've decided to take an expo marker, a scissors, and white out to the Bible, how on earth does he even think you're going to function as soon as the Equality Act is passed?
00:27:45.000You saw the clip with Senator Paul contending with Dr. Levin.
00:28:30.000And for a couple, I mean, there's fear, there's uncertainty.
00:28:34.000And I could tell you this: for everyone watching out there, I've gone to the college campuses wearing a shirt that says there are only two genders.
00:28:40.000I've defended this position for years.
00:29:08.000There is not one thing the Bible commands you to do that is not good for you, that does not make you live a long and prosperous life, that is inconsistent with the teachings of the Bible.
00:29:15.000I mean, it's going to be the teachings of the discoveries of science.
00:29:17.000In fact, science has only confirmed what the Bible has only told us.
00:30:29.000With that being said, we have churches and Christian schools embracing critical race theory.
00:30:37.000And in California, while we have a church that's facing $2 million in fines and a threat to imprison the pastors, and there's 15,000 calls going unanswered to their crisis hotline in Santa Clara County, and we have the largest number of opioid overdose deaths in the history of the country, and churches are the target.
00:31:00.000Pastors, liberty is God's idea, not man's idea.
00:31:19.000And likewise, it goes right back towards you for giving me confidence to actually speak in the Christian world because I, you know, we talked about this many times.
00:31:28.000I just didn't think pastors or churches were very engaged or involved in this.
00:31:33.000But to the critical race theory aspect of this and what the driving component behind this that I think people have to realize is that it is very tempting to want to find a new thing that makes you feel good but does not do good.
00:32:02.000And so the critical theory in general, who came from Michelle Foucault, not Michelle Foucault, Herbert Marcuza, Michelle Foucault talked about it.
00:32:11.000It's all French to me, and it should be to you.
00:32:13.000Point is that it's all a bunch of rubbish, and it really is some of the most dangerous, insidious, divisive ideas nicely packaged into something that is so pernicious to our culture, and that word means dangerous, to what we are, what we're actually trying to advance, what we're trying to defend.
00:32:32.000And so, look, it's a testing moment for the American church.
00:32:37.000And so, Rob, you've been on the cutting edge of this.
00:32:40.000You understand all of this really well.
00:32:42.000But for churches that have not yet, first of all, they're not open yet.
00:32:47.000But that's a different topic for a different time.
00:32:49.000And they're not commenting on this, but even kind of parents that might be watching this and Christian, I understand it could be confusing.
00:32:58.000And James Lindsay, atheist, liberal, I've plugged his book, Cynical Theories.
00:33:27.000When in reality, that person has given, he or she has run out of things to actually study and research that are meaningful, that they go create these ridiculous theories that give them a platform and give them relevancy.
00:33:40.000And so, look, I know that you've gone through a little dispute locally.
00:33:44.000What you've done there is the right thing.
00:33:46.000Critical race theory is an immoral, evil viewpoint, philosophy that must be stopped at all costs.
00:33:53.000You know, I want to commend that school that we addressed the concern over one of the speakers because they said, let's not have the speaker come.
00:34:03.000That takes a lot of courage for that school to do that.
00:34:07.000Why that speaker was coming in the first place is beyond me.
00:34:36.000But Galatians, this idea that we're given the gospel, why are we putting this yoke on our children?
00:34:43.000That they're to walk around because of their immutable trait, that they somehow have to make restitution for sins that happened in the 1800s.
00:35:35.000So, you know, the enemy always wants to try and call out, call out you in a way that wants to make you dwell in your sin or your flaws, and Jesus liberates you from that.
00:35:50.000And that's why I really believe that postmodernism and critical race theory is rooted in a pattern of that is parallel to how the enemy acts and all throughout the Bible, all throughout the scriptures, through temptation, through false promises, through earthly enrichment, all of it.
00:36:07.000And the same could be said through American history of this same sort of race, class, and gender struggle that manifests itself through different ways.
00:36:15.000And I say this all the time: that if your biggest concern is existential, about systemic racism, and you can't really describe it, you have a really good life.
00:36:25.000If your biggest concern is something that's a great line, if your biggest concern is climate change, the people in the slums of India would yearn for a day to worry about something that is not sanitation, survival, and nourishment.
00:36:56.000To come and tell them about the existential crisis.
00:36:59.000This repetition of the looming existential threat, systemic racism, public health crisis.
00:37:05.000The climate change, you know, meteor is going to fall out of the sky if we don't get rid of all fossil fuels.
00:37:10.000It actually just takes a step back: like, wow, you're living a really good life.
00:37:13.000You have it so much better than you could imagine.
00:37:15.000And it's just kind of a rule of thumb where you've designed your whole life around being mad about something outside of you.
00:37:26.000Only people that are well-fed can believe such things.
00:37:29.000To your point about Manning Johnson, I could dive into it deeper, but it's not dissimilar to that's the sort of tactic that they try to employ against us.
00:37:37.000Well, Charlie, going from here, from your vantage point, sitting across from a pastor of a church, what would you want the church to do on behalf of all these issues?
00:37:48.000If you could speak to them, what would you want to say?
00:37:52.000Communicate, educate, grow your influence, be unafraid about any sort of potential backlash or consequence, but be very rational, reasonable, and logical.
00:38:01.000My one critique of a political act of church is a misinformed political act of church.
00:38:06.000So for every church I compliment, I also quietly try to say, okay, no, Donald Trump's not going to be president on March 6th.
00:38:15.000And, you know, lovingly, there are people in our orbit that have kind of got into that because being politically active is awesome, but do it rationally, logically, and reasonably.
00:39:33.000There is no other parcel of political power left.
00:39:36.000Every other institution has been completely secularized and weaponized by the left.
00:39:40.000The corporations, the civil service, academia, media communication, Hollywood, all of it.
00:39:45.000The only thing that is left is churches like Godspeak and churches like Jack Kibbs and churches like Cody Kools and Ken Graves and Frank Ramsor.
00:40:02.000The point is, will the Ecclesia, the public square, unify around Isonomia and Eleutheria, freedom and equality, and say, you know what?
00:40:09.000No, we are going to contest for every square inch.
00:40:12.000And I think that the church is going to be really surprised at how effective they are.
00:40:16.000I think that Christians are going to be surprised at how much more clarity you'll have at viewing the news cycle and your life.
00:40:25.000And the final thing I'll say on this, Rob, is that I think the church is also going to be surprised that any fear they have of backlash is mostly the enemy whispering in their ear.
00:40:33.000And the realities are actually going to make new friends, have more of a positive influence.
00:40:37.000And they'll look back and like, I was afraid of what?
00:40:39.000A couple bad Facebook comments being called the R-word.
00:40:42.000And I'm not diminishing social pressure or potential career cost or all of that, but I think it pales in comparison with the moral obligation and prerogative to get engaged and involved in the public square.
00:40:54.000I want to emphasize that this quite possibly could be the church's finest hour.
00:41:02.000When you say that all of these other institutions have been compromised and what's left is the church, the church has always been the protector and the source of liberty.
00:41:32.000If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and turn from their wicked ways of apathy and inactivity, then I will hear from heaven and heal their land.