The Charlie Kirk Show - The Deep State Doesn’t Own You with Tyler Bowyer

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody.

00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we recap a crazy week.

00:00:03.000 We talk about the administrative state, otherwise known as the shadow government.

00:00:07.000 I think one of the silver linings of the occupation and raid at Mar-a-Lago is people are waking up that there is a shadow government in our country where punishment is arbitrary and we are ruled by a council of experts.

00:00:20.000 What do we do about it?

00:00:20.000 We talk about it, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:00:23.000 And then Tyler Boyer joins us from Turning Point Action.

00:00:25.000 We have amazing events coming up in Phoenix, Youngtown, Ohio, and Pittsburgh.

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00:00:34.000 We have Blake Masters, Kerry Lake, and Ron DeSantis.

00:00:38.000 Also, I make an error here where I say that voting is on Saturday in Alaska.

00:00:42.000 That is not true.

00:00:44.000 And also, Tyler makes an error where he says that if you vote in ranked choice voting, it doesn't count.

00:00:53.000 It's very confusing, but I just wanted to clarify for all of you.

00:00:56.000 Meaning, if you only vote for one person, it doesn't count all the way through.

00:00:59.000 According to Alaska law, that will count, but you won't be counted in the second or third if your candidate doesn't proceed.

00:01:05.000 If your head is spinning and you're confused, you need to listen to the whole episode because Tyler gives a phenomenally important warning about ranked choice voting and how it could destroy the MAGA movement.

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00:02:24.000 What do Anthony Fauci and Merrick Garland have in common?

00:02:28.000 I know they're both craven old men that are using their twilight years to terrorize a majority of the country, and they're both approximately five feet tall with no Napoleon syndrome, by the way, trying to tell us how to live our lives and using their power for evil.

00:02:49.000 But they're also creatures of the administrative state. 0.62

00:02:53.000 Now, as we talk about on this program, the Constitution authorizes three types of power.

00:02:58.000 We all learned this in school.

00:02:59.000 It's very basic.

00:03:01.000 The legislative branch, the executive branch, and the judicial branch.

00:03:06.000 How does the administrative state, though, fit into that arrangement?

00:03:09.000 And the answer is it doesn't.

00:03:11.000 If you go all the way back to 1887, Congress created the Interstate Commerce Commission.

00:03:19.000 It was expanded decades later, but it was almost this fourth branch of government, the birth of the fourth branch of government.

00:03:24.000 And it was no coincidence that happened in the late 1800s.

00:03:27.000 This was where the focus on scientism was born.

00:03:31.000 Industrial Revolution, people start to think they could perfect man.

00:03:34.000 We need the council of experts, the administrators that know best.

00:03:38.000 We have allowed over the last hundred years the administrative state, also called the deep state or the shadow government, to do whatever they want to do with very little check or balance or transparency being demanded.

00:03:55.000 Now, we beat this drum relentlessly with the serpent, the criminal, Anthony Fauci, with what he did against humanity, unaccountable, unknown, unelected, fourth branch of government bureaucrats.

00:04:08.000 But Merrick Garland is exactly the same.

00:04:11.000 Now, this is a very important point.

00:04:12.000 We're going to play some pieces of tape here from Merrick Garland's press conference yesterday.

00:04:17.000 But don't be too focused on Merrick Garland, the person, because Merrick Garland is an interchangeable part.

00:04:24.000 Merrick Garland is a small widget that could be easily replaced, as easy as going to Home Depot and getting a washer that you might be missing or a nail for your deck.

00:04:36.000 Merrick Garland is not valued by the machine.

00:04:39.000 He's not necessary for the machine.

00:04:41.000 He's a temporary, interchangeable part that thinks he's going to be remembered.

00:04:45.000 In reality, he will be enveloped very soon by the very machine that he has always worshipped his entire life, the state, the Leviathan, the albatross.

00:04:54.000 So as we talk about Merrick Garland, we shouldn't talk about Merrick Garland, the person, or Anthony Fauci, the person.

00:05:01.000 We should talk about the borg.

00:05:03.000 Talk about this machine, this all-encompassing monstrosity that seems overwhelming.

00:05:12.000 It's the monstrosity that invaded Mar-a-Lago.

00:05:15.000 It is the machine that came in, guns drawn, 30 FBI agents for nine and a half hours for 270 man hours.

00:05:29.000 The problem with the administrative state is that it's so arbitrary.

00:05:33.000 They get to choose who they target.

00:05:35.000 The law is not the guide of the shadow government.

00:05:39.000 The bureaucrat is.

00:05:42.000 So when Merrick Garland comes out and he says, well, we don't take these decisions lightly and we take this all into consideration.

00:05:49.000 What he's really saying is, I'm in charge.

00:05:52.000 But he really isn't in charge.

00:05:53.000 His council of experts are in charge, but they all think the same.

00:05:57.000 They all have the same beliefs.

00:05:58.000 They send their kids to the same schools.

00:06:00.000 They vote for the same candidates. 1.00

00:06:02.000 They all are deep down, very miserable. 0.99

00:06:04.000 What do they worship? 0.98

00:06:06.000 What is their metaphysical belief?

00:06:08.000 They don't believe in God the way you and I would.

00:06:10.000 Maybe they might say they do.

00:06:11.000 No, no, they worship at the church of the state.

00:06:16.000 They are statists.

00:06:18.000 I'm a Christian.

00:06:18.000 Some of you are deists.

00:06:19.000 Some of you are Jews.

00:06:21.000 Some of you are people that might be Hindus or Muslims.

00:06:24.000 Fauci and Garland worship the state.

00:06:28.000 You see, the totalitarian machine is historically the norm.

00:06:34.000 The United States has been so incredibly, some would say lucky, some would be thankful, to be immune to this sort of administrative state tyranny.

00:06:46.000 Now, the administrative state, shadow government is what we call it, deep state, has been so, let's just say, unknown to most Americans for many years.

00:06:56.000 Donald Trump revealed a lot of this.

00:06:58.000 But what I think many people underestimated is the shadow government doesn't stop caring about you just because you left office.

00:07:06.000 They must purge the ranks of non-believers. 0.99

00:07:09.000 Yesterday, Merrick Garland addressed the country.

00:07:13.000 Let's play Cut 78.

00:07:14.000 Attorney General Merrick Garland says he personally approved the decision for the Justice Department to seek a warrant of Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate.

00:07:20.000 I'm going to tell you why he worded it this way, in my opinion.

00:07:24.000 Play Cut 78.

00:07:25.000 First, I personally approve the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter.

00:07:32.000 Second, the department does not take such a decision lightly.

00:07:36.000 Where possible, it is standard practice to seek less intrusive means as an alternative to a search and to narrowly scope any search that is undertaken.

00:07:47.000 When have you ever seen a bureaucrat take personal responsibility?

00:07:51.000 Almost never.

00:07:53.000 So the reason that Merrick Garland did this is two-pronged.

00:07:56.000 Number one, Merrick Garland is seeking revenge and he just doesn't care.

00:08:00.000 Merrick Garland is angry.

00:08:01.000 He's not a Supreme Court justice and Merrick Garland is happy to almost own it.

00:08:06.000 Number two, I don't think Merrick Garland lasts much longer.

00:08:09.000 You see, if Merrick Garland went in front of there and he said, if he instead said this was done through the Department of Justice in unanimous agreement, well, then a resignation of Merrick Garland actually wouldn't solve the problem.

00:08:21.000 You see, the more Merrick Garland takes personal responsibility, the more the situation gets diffused when Merrick Garland resigns and Republicans take over Congress.

00:08:30.000 For example, let's say Merrick Garland resigns by Christmas, of which is my prediction.

00:08:34.000 Merrick Garland probably won't make it to the Republican Congress.

00:08:37.000 I think he gets out ahead of time.

00:08:38.000 We could be wrong, usually on top of the stuff.

00:08:40.000 So if Merrick Garland resigns, what are Republicans then supposed to oversee?

00:08:44.000 His replacement, his predecessor, the replacement would just say, well, that was my predecessor.

00:08:48.000 I didn't approve that raid.

00:08:50.000 And instead, if Merrick Garland said this was the institution, then all of a sudden that oversight, the commission that should be coming, the Church and Pike Committee equivalent, would have something to latch onto.

00:09:00.000 No, no, no.

00:09:01.000 Garland is trying to say it's all me because a scapegoat is necessary for the backlash and how poorly this is being received by the American people.

00:09:10.000 That's what's really going on here.

00:09:12.000 Whether or not Merrick Garland personally approved it or not is irrelevant.

00:09:15.000 There's evidence to show both ways.

00:09:17.000 I do believe, though, that Merrick Garland was informed.

00:09:20.000 I think it's more likely that Joe Biden, well, not Joe Biden, or maybe Kamala Harris or some other deep state thug, shadow government cartel member of our system, approved it.

00:09:30.000 It's much more likely in that regard.

00:09:33.000 But don't be distracted.

00:09:35.000 Don't look at what they want you to look at.

00:09:37.000 Oh, I'm so angry at Merrick Garland.

00:09:39.000 He's an interchangeable part.

00:09:40.000 He'll be gone sometime soon.

00:09:42.000 He's not going to be there forever.

00:09:43.000 They're going to get some younger, more charismatic, more radical attorney general sometime soon.

00:09:49.000 No, Merrick Garland is sticking his neck out for the sole purpose to try to blunt the backlash when Republicans take back Congress, when they do their oversight.

00:10:01.000 The next person who has to get sworn in will say, well, Merrick Garland is no longer Attorney General.

00:10:06.000 What do you guys have for us now?

00:10:08.000 Instead, if Merrick Garland said it's the position of every U.S. attorney, it's the position of my deputies.

00:10:13.000 We all agreed this was the right thing.

00:10:15.000 Well, then you have a scandal.

00:10:18.000 Instead, the media will praise Garland for his courage and his tenacity, despite the overreach, the invasion, the occupation of a political dissident and soon-to-be political opponent.

00:10:31.000 And they're already in full freak out and spin mode.

00:10:33.000 I'm going to tell you what that is.

00:10:35.000 Some could possibly say that the media is going nuclear over all of this.

00:10:42.000 But remember, the administrative state is outside the structure of Madison, Hamilton, and Jay of the Federalist Papers.

00:10:49.000 It's outside the structure and the promise of the United States Constitution.

00:10:54.000 It's outside what the Constitution guaranteed to protect our God-given liberties and freedoms.

00:11:00.000 The shadow government, the administrative state, has existed for so long.

00:11:04.000 And in constitutional legal circles, we've talked about it before, and we need checks and balances and consent to the governed.

00:11:10.000 What that raid did, if we explain it properly, showed in no uncertain terms who actually currently runs the country, jack-booted thugs that are able to come into Mar-a-Lago and invade a sacred political site for cocktail napkins.

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00:12:28.000 One of the things that frustrates me most is when people run as grassroots conservatives and then they legislate and govern as moderates.

00:12:37.000 I have some major philosophical and political differences with Senator Collins from Maine.

00:12:42.000 I will say though, Senator Collins, Senator Susan Collins, she never runs as a grassroots conservative.

00:12:48.000 You know what you're getting when you vote for Senator Collins.

00:12:51.000 It's not my cup of tea.

00:12:52.000 It's not my taste.

00:12:54.000 But one of my concerns, though, and I think a lot of you agree, is that you have Senator Lindsey Graham who pretends he's super conservative and does the opposite.

00:13:03.000 I want more people to just be very clear with their voters about what they believe and why they believe it.

00:13:12.000 And honestly, good for Susan Collins.

00:13:13.000 Susan Collins, who is a moderate, very, very, let's just say, middle-of-the-road Republican.

00:13:22.000 I think she has integrity.

00:13:24.000 Now, some of you say, oh, Charlie, she's a rhino and all of that.

00:13:27.000 Well, think about it, though.

00:13:28.000 She doesn't ever pretend to be one of us.

00:13:32.000 I respect that.

00:13:33.000 Not everyone has to agree with us.

00:13:35.000 You know what?

00:13:35.000 It makes me very angry when people run with us and they want our support.

00:13:40.000 They want to come on our shows.

00:13:41.000 They want your donations.

00:13:43.000 And then they become the opposite, like Tom Tillis from North Carolina.

00:13:49.000 I could go around the horn.

00:13:51.000 So Susan Collins, being an outspoken moderate, says cut 97, Donald Trump's raid, cut 97.

00:14:00.000 It is unprecedented in our history for the FBI to raid the house of a former president.

00:14:10.000 Now, we don't know the details yet.

00:14:14.000 I found it shocking.

00:14:17.000 But again, I think the Justice Department needs to release more information on what the basis was for the FBI raid.

00:14:28.000 If in fact it only had to do with disputes over documents, this seems to me to be an excessive move on the part of the Justice Department.

00:14:43.000 But until I know the facts, it's very hard for me to judge.

00:14:48.000 Now, look, again, she's a moderate. 0.90

00:14:50.000 She's not going to use the language that we would like, but it does show that even the Republican establishment is starting to stand up in this particular regard.

00:14:59.000 Going back to yesterday, Merrick Garland continued, where he says, I will not stand by silently when the integrity of the FBI is unfairly attacked.

00:15:08.000 Oh, really?

00:15:09.000 We're supposed to trust the FBI after the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping scandal.

00:15:13.000 Who planted the pipe bombs on January 5th, by the way, at the Republican National Committee and the Democrat National Committee?

00:15:19.000 How about the dirty dossier with Bruce Senellior and Peter Struckstroke Smirk and Lisa Page?

00:15:25.000 Were those people ever held accountable?

00:15:27.000 You're not going to sit, stand silently by Merrick Garland while the FBI raided James O'Keefe's apartment illegally, Rudy Giuliani's apartment and broke lawyer client privilege.

00:15:40.000 How about when the Federal Bureau of Investigation went after John Eastman and took his cell phone, Scott Perry and took his cell phone, Peter Navarro and put him in leg irons, a public humiliation.

00:15:53.000 We're not supposed to talk about any of that.

00:15:54.000 Merrick Garland, Clay Cut 77.

00:15:57.000 I will not stand by silently when their integrity is unfairly attacked.

00:16:03.000 The men and women of the FBI and the Justice Department are dedicated, patriotic public servants.

00:16:11.000 Every day, they protect the American people from violent crime, terrorism, and other threats to their safety while safeguarding our civil rights.

00:16:21.000 Garland continued by praising the FBI and the rule of law as the bedrock of the justice system and democracy.

00:16:29.000 Play Cut 79.

00:16:31.000 Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy.

00:16:40.000 Upholding the rule of law means applying the law evenly, without fear or favor.

00:16:47.000 Under my watch, that is precisely what the Justice Department is doing.

00:16:52.000 The rule of law is not the bedrock of the Department of Justice.

00:16:55.000 The religion of statism is.

00:16:58.000 They worship at the altar of the Leviathan.

00:17:02.000 They couldn't care less about the rule of law, about justice being an ideal. 1.00

00:17:09.000 It is a load of garbage to hear that. 0.99

00:17:12.000 They violate the Constitution on a daily, hourly basis. 0.98

00:17:17.000 And he did not even begin to explain why 30 FBI agents after prior cooperation was happening needed to go desecrate a sacred political site, one of which millions of Americans consider to be the Southern Winter White House or the Winter White House.

00:17:37.000 Why is all of a sudden that going to happen by the FBI?

00:17:40.000 The administrative state has been revealed for who they are.

00:17:46.000 Look, we talk about current events a lot on this show, but there's other things that are in life that are bigger than current events, bigger things.

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00:17:58.000 Right and wrong, prayer and the Bible or heaven and hell.

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00:19:22.000 Tyler Boyer is here, who runs Turning Point Action.

00:19:24.000 Tyler, welcome back.

00:19:25.000 Hey, Charlie, how you doing?

00:19:26.000 We're doing great and got a big weekend ahead.

00:19:28.000 Oh, huge weekend.

00:19:30.000 Tell us about it.

00:19:31.000 We have Governor Ron DeSantis making his first stop outside of the state of Florida here with us at Turning Point Action in Arizona.

00:19:38.000 And so Ron has been kind enough.

00:19:41.000 We grabbed him backstage.

00:19:42.000 We're like, hey, we need you in Arizona as soon as this primary is over.

00:19:45.000 He's like, heck yes, you bet I'll come out.

00:19:45.000 Yep.

00:19:47.000 And he's coming.

00:19:49.000 And it's going to be one of the largest political events, I think, in Arizona this year.

00:19:53.000 We already have thousands upon thousands of people.

00:19:56.000 We had to move to the largest venue theater venue that we could find.

00:20:00.000 Which is where we hosted Trump last year for our event.

00:20:02.000 Pretty historically.

00:20:03.000 It's huge.

00:20:04.000 It was huge.

00:20:04.000 And that's what really set the tone for the Arizona race last year, anyways.

00:20:07.000 And so we're really excited.

00:20:09.000 Governor DeSantis is going to be with the great Carrie Lake, the inspirational Blake Masters.

00:20:15.000 And then we're going to be focusing on all our big W's, which Arizona had a ton of wins legislatively.

00:20:22.000 And so Warren Peterson, who is in the state Senate, he's awesome.

00:20:27.000 One of the greatest conservatives is going to be shouting out a lot of those wins for us.

00:20:31.000 And so you want to be there.

00:20:33.000 It's historic.

00:20:34.000 You're not going to want to miss this.

00:20:35.000 It really, it's akin to the Trump rally that we hosted in 2015, I think, which is a big turning point in Arizona history where we're actually taking back conservative ground and building the wall, not just along the southern border, but along the California border and saying we're going to stop the insane California policies from coming into Arizona.

00:20:54.000 I love it.

00:20:54.000 tpaction.com slash DeSantis.

00:20:58.000 Yep.

00:20:58.000 DeSantis.

00:20:59.000 And we have to unite and win.

00:21:00.000 That is the whole theme of it.

00:21:02.000 The polls are showing Blake Masters and Carrie Lake have a lot of work to do.

00:21:05.000 Blake in particular, I think that just is primarily because of the divided race that he had.

00:21:12.000 Blake had a ton of opposition.

00:21:15.000 He was only one of six prominent candidates to start.

00:21:19.000 Carrie was on a one-on-one race. 1.00

00:21:20.000 And so she actually, a poll just came out that showed her plus 11 with Hispanics, which is really indicative of what's happening across the country.

00:21:29.000 Carrie Lake, plus 11 with Hispanics.

00:21:31.000 And she'll win the governors, if that's true.

00:21:31.000 Yes.

00:21:33.000 If that holds.

00:21:34.000 She wins by 10 points.

00:21:35.000 She's going to win by a lot.

00:21:36.000 So, yeah, you got to feel really bad if you're Katie Hobbes. 0.96

00:21:39.000 Well, Katie Hobbes is a racist. 1.00

00:21:41.000 What poll was that? 0.99

00:21:41.000 What? 0.99

00:21:42.000 It was done by an outside group.

00:21:44.000 Oh, wow.

00:21:44.000 It was actually done by a Democratic-leaning firm.

00:21:46.000 So, yeah, they're sweating bullets over there.

00:21:50.000 And Katie Hobbs, you know, was a twice convicted racist and had issues with firing a black employee after complaining that she was being intimidated and kind of pushed out in the workplace.

00:22:05.000 And so, you know, Katie Hobbes isn't doing good with the Hispanic population in Arizona and with the black population. 1.00

00:22:11.000 And so, you know, it's looking really, really grim for Democrats in Arizona.

00:22:15.000 We're keeping our eyes on it.

00:22:16.000 So this Sunday, we're doing Phoenix, Arizona.

00:22:18.000 And then also we have two others really quick.

00:22:20.000 Yeah.

00:22:21.000 Youngstown, Ohio.

00:22:22.000 Youngstown, Ohio, and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

00:22:24.000 On the 19th.

00:22:25.000 That's a week from today.

00:22:26.000 A lot of Pittsburgh Penguin fans in that territory.

00:22:29.000 We're really excited to come out.

00:22:31.000 I know JD is excited.

00:22:32.000 JD is going to be there in Youngstown, Ohio, rallying with Governor DeSantis.

00:22:36.000 And then in Pittsburgh, we're going to have the wonderful Douglas Astriano.

00:22:41.000 Oh, man, one of the greatest candidates in the country.

00:22:43.000 If we can get him elected, the country would be a great place to be.

00:22:45.000 Douglas Astriano is so great.

00:22:45.000 Oh, man.

00:22:47.000 He's so the best.

00:22:48.000 So I want to talk to you about Alaska.

00:22:50.000 Alaska does elections on Saturdays, which is kind of interesting.

00:22:54.000 So tomorrow, yeah, I don't quite understand it.

00:22:57.000 They have Senator Murkowski, Total Rhino, who I believe in voted, I think, voted for impeachment, if I'm not mistaken.

00:23:04.000 Murky Murkowski.

00:23:05.000 Yep.

00:23:06.000 Who very suspiciously kind of was able to get elected through a write-in campaign.

00:23:10.000 The whole thing's very bizarre.

00:23:12.000 But I want to focus on something more broadly for the rest of our national audience, which is ranked choice voting.

00:23:19.000 Yes.

00:23:19.000 Alaska has now moved to ranked choice voting.

00:23:22.000 Is that right?

00:23:22.000 They didn't have it before.

00:23:23.000 So here's what you need to know.

00:23:26.000 Every single person within the sound of my voice needs to understand that the future of the Republican Party and the Republic depend on you fighting ranked choice voting.

00:23:36.000 So, what ranked choice voting is, is a system that they've instituted, oddly enough, in states that have very moderate senators.

00:23:45.000 And the reason for that, I think, is because the ranked choice voting system basically enables only moderates to ever get elected.

00:23:54.000 And here's the reason why.

00:23:55.000 Basically, how it works, and proponents of ranked choice voting will lie to you.

00:23:58.000 They will tell you all sorts of different reasons why it's awesome, including saving money and eliminating primaries and eliminating extra runoff elections and all of that.

00:24:06.000 The reality is, is that their goal is they want to eliminate the party primaries and they want to bump out conservatives.

00:24:14.000 And here's the reason why how ranked choice voting works is on a ballot, essentially what happens is you rank each of the candidates one, two, three, four.

00:24:24.000 So let's say there's in like Alaska, you have a conservative, a moderate establishment, rhino Republican, and a Democrat.

00:24:32.000 You have to rank all of them one, two, three, right?

00:24:34.000 So if you're in a state even with a minority Democrats, the Democrats then will always rank the moderate Republican second after their Democrat choice.

00:24:44.000 And the conservatives will rank the moderate Republicans second.

00:24:48.000 And then so if you don't break the 50% threshold, and I'm oversimplifying it, but you don't break the over, then basically your automatic vote goes to that second place person.

00:24:57.000 So almost always the second place person will win and the moderate will win no matter even if you're in a state that's 45% conservative.

00:25:07.000 So the proponents of ranked choice voting will say that it de-radicalizes our politics, that it helps us get more consensus.

00:25:15.000 That's where they're going to trend to.

00:25:17.000 The first place they start is that they're saving money because they're not having to cost the state in runoffs.

00:25:23.000 Even some of the, in a lot of states, so in Utah, they've implemented ranked choice.

00:25:27.000 Utah, be aware, be on high alert and alarm.

00:25:30.000 You should be totally alarmed.

00:25:31.000 They're preparing this for the Mitt Romney election.

00:25:33.000 Just so you know, this is the exact same thing with Murkowski, is that they'll say, let's just implement this just for primaries and it won't affect the general.

00:25:43.000 And then, but all of a sudden, you've let the camel's nose in the tent and all of a sudden you're going to wake up with a camel inside your tent and you're going to have ranked choice voting all the way down.

00:25:51.000 Yeah.

00:25:51.000 And I just want to re-emphasize this.

00:25:52.000 So tomorrow when Alaskans go to the polls, it's not going to be like, well, do you like Murkowski or do you like Tishbaka?

00:25:58.000 They have to put in order which candidate they prefer.

00:26:01.000 They're forced to.

00:26:02.000 And my understanding, and please don't come after me if I'm wrong.

00:26:07.000 I couldn't even get clarity on this because I'm not from Alaska and so really far away, right?

00:26:10.000 I've been there once, but I haven't been there.

00:26:12.000 So don't kill me if I'm wrong here.

00:26:14.000 But my understanding is you have to rank them too.

00:26:17.000 And it's a spoiled ballot if you don't rank one, two, and three.

00:26:20.000 So the big question in a lot of these places, well, well, can I just rank Tishabaka one and then leave everybody else off?

00:26:27.000 Yeah, we just got an email.

00:26:28.000 They said, can you just rank one top choice and then stop?

00:26:31.000 And then in most places in the investigation that I've seen is that the answer to that question is no, which in my opinion is also it's anti-democratic.

00:26:42.000 Of course.

00:26:44.000 You're basically, they're forcing you to vote for this is like single party, crazy systems.

00:26:49.000 Yeah, they force you to give power to people you actually hate.

00:26:53.000 So then they can say, oh, no, this person got elected.

00:26:56.000 I didn't want to vote for it.

00:26:58.000 So in Arizona, if I don't want to vote for somebody, I leave a blank.

00:27:01.000 Yeah, that's exactly.

00:27:02.000 I left it blank for McCain a couple of different times.

00:27:05.000 I didn't want to vote for John McCain.

00:27:06.000 You know, I voted in the primary.

00:27:08.000 And if I didn't want to vote for a Democrat, I didn't want to vote for John McCain.

00:27:11.000 You could leave a blank.

00:27:13.000 These systems that they're trying to institute is they're trying to almost gaslight the American population by saying, no, you elected this person when nobody ever wanted to vote for Murkowski.

00:27:23.000 So Project Veritas Action, led by James O'Keefe, came out with a series of videos that show that Lisa Murkowski was the supporter and the pusher for this because she was worried that in an actual election, she would lose. 0.92

00:27:36.000 But in this weird game where you rank them now, this is different than jungle primaries, right?

00:27:40.000 This is different than California.

00:27:43.000 It's different, but it's the same.

00:27:44.000 And here's the reason why it's the same: because jungle primaries are top two primaries, which mean that ultimately you don't have a choice or I say in a party, a party affiliated election.

00:27:56.000 That the same end goal is here with ranked choice voting.

00:27:59.000 Is they essentially the whole goal of this, guys, they want to eliminate party elections.

00:28:05.000 And don't get me wrong, party primaries.

00:28:06.000 Party primaries.

00:28:07.000 Got it.

00:28:08.000 And don't get me wrong, guys. 0.98

00:28:09.000 The parties suck. 1.00

00:28:10.000 You know, the Republican Party sucks often. 1.00

00:28:12.000 The Democrat Party. 0.99

00:28:13.000 But it's worse to have a Marxist, single-party communist system, which is what they want.

00:28:19.000 So let's just take an example of Arizona.

00:28:21.000 If Arizona had ranked choice voting, Katie Hobbs would be running in the same race as Kerry Lake. 1.00

00:28:28.000 It would be Karen, Kerry, and Katie.

00:28:31.000 Right.

00:28:31.000 Right?

00:28:31.000 So it very well probably would have been Kerry Lake would have received like 35 to 40 percent of the first choice.

00:28:38.000 That's exactly right.

00:28:39.000 But then Karen Taylor Robeson would have gotten a lot of Kerry Lake's second choice. 1.00

00:28:43.000 Yes.

00:28:44.000 And a lot of the Katie Hobbs people would have made also Karen Robeson the second choice. 1.00

00:28:49.000 So Karen, in that system, you're exactly right.

00:28:52.000 Karen would have won overwhelmingly, even though that was not, even though she was not the choice of the Republican Party. 0.97

00:28:58.000 But then they go to the top two go to the general election against each other.

00:29:02.000 Nope.

00:29:02.000 Then it's over.

00:29:03.000 They want to have just one election where it's no, but in Alaska, are they is this the primary?

00:29:08.000 Yeah, so in Alaska with this, this is the primary.

00:29:12.000 So there's different, there's different formulations for this.

00:29:15.000 So again, it's the camel into the tent concept.

00:29:18.000 What they want to get to is where there's only one overall overarching election.

00:29:23.000 So right now they're doing this with the primary, right?

00:29:27.000 Then they move on to the actual election and they say, you know what, we don't need a party primary anymore because we can just do ranked choice voting for one election in the general two.

00:29:36.000 Yeah, that's the understanding.

00:29:37.000 Yeah.

00:29:37.000 But then it will just be whomever the top two people run.

00:29:41.000 It's different every state.

00:29:42.000 So again, I can't speak to Alaska, but what they're doing is they're opening the door in Alaska for this.

00:29:47.000 So they have just one election.

00:29:49.000 So what they're going to say next is we don't even need a new primary.

00:29:52.000 We can save the taxpayers millions of dollars.

00:29:53.000 No primary.

00:29:54.000 No primary.

00:29:54.000 Yeah.

00:29:55.000 Think about that, guys.

00:29:56.000 That means no Ron DeSantis.

00:29:57.000 That'd mean no Kerry Lake.

00:29:58.000 That'd be no Ted Cruz.

00:30:00.000 That'd be no Josh Hawley.

00:30:01.000 Your grassroots conservatives that you love, this is a way to disenfranchise them because the Democrats would be mobilized and all of these Chamber of Commerce Uni Party people would benefit from this.

00:30:11.000 That's exactly right.

00:30:11.000 So the Uniparty guys would benefit from it.

00:30:14.000 The Democrats aren't, I would argue the Democrats aren't more organized than Republicans, but they're more controlling.

00:30:20.000 And so they're a machine.

00:30:21.000 So basically, the best way to undo this is what they could do is like in top two in California, which we've seen them do now.

00:30:27.000 That's why California turned so blue.

00:30:29.000 They can run more Republicans in a district, split the vote for Republicans, and then all of a sudden you get top two Democrats.

00:30:36.000 And that's the same thing with ranked choice voting.

00:30:39.000 They can actually organize this and they're much more organized to say, hey, we're going to keep out all our, we're going to solidify into one candidate and then we can win every single election.

00:30:49.000 And it's scary, guys.

00:30:50.000 I mean, ranked choice voting is going to be the utter destruction of the conservative movement if you do not get out ahead.

00:30:55.000 And just so you understand how they tabulate it.

00:30:57.000 So they do one rank of tabulation and then they have to do another rank of tabulation, which basically, you know, who always wins?

00:31:05.000 The second place person wins.

00:31:06.000 And this is all behind closed doors too on electronics, which is everything we're fighting right now, which is like, hey, there's no paper trail, right?

00:31:12.000 This is just a trust algorithm.

00:31:14.000 Yes.

00:31:15.000 It's an algorithm that gives preference to the second place candidate.

00:31:18.000 I'm telling you guys, this is how you end up with a Venezuela situation.

00:31:20.000 This is how you end up with a Soviet Union situation, single party, you know, behind closed doors.

00:31:25.000 But ranked choice voting is going to come to a state near you to disenfranchise grassroots conservatives and try to destroy the voice of the grassroots.

00:31:32.000 It is a backdoor procedural way.

00:31:34.000 I know some of you are, oh, Charlie, why are you talking about this?

00:31:37.000 The same way that we ignored mail-in ballots, the same way that we ignored all this, we're trying to warn you right now.

00:31:41.000 If you don't block ranked choice voting, then there will be no conservative movement, period.

00:31:46.000 We acknowledge this is weedsy, but a lot of you say, Charlie, you know, how do we stop the bad guys?

00:31:51.000 You see, while we're focused on persuasion and ideas, which is important, they're focused on process.

00:31:58.000 They care about how votes are tabulated and process, process, process, process.

00:32:03.000 Who counts the vote?

00:32:04.000 Who counts the votes, how they're counted, what's the tabulation?

00:32:07.000 So Project Veritas Action by James O'Keefe does an amazing job.

00:32:11.000 Play cut 100 shows that Lisa Murkowski's team is bragging that they were the ones that wanted ranked choice voting because it benefits them. 0.99

00:32:20.000 Play cut 100.

00:32:21.000 They say the race is going to come down to Kelly Chewbacca and Senator Murkowski.

00:32:26.000 So anyone who votes for Pat Chesborough first and ranks Senator Murkowski second, that vote is going to become a vote for Senator Murkowski.

00:32:34.000 So ballot measure two is her key to winning. 0.78

00:32:37.000 Yeah.

00:32:38.000 While we work on ballot measure two and voting for ballot measure two, we have Senator Murkowski in mind the whole time.

00:32:44.000 Every single Pat Chesborough voter who ranks Senator Murkowski second, you get the votes.

00:32:51.000 So could we get the title of who that was?

00:32:52.000 I think that's a Murkowski staffer, if I'm not mistaken, on Hidden Camera bragging that because of ranked choice voting, the moderate Lisa Murkowski will survive despite Teshbaka getting more votes. 0.97

00:33:05.000 Yeah, because they know, again, and again, this is a uniparty Democrat establishment Republican employee who these people hate you.

00:33:13.000 I mean, I just want everyone here to know these people hate you.

00:33:15.000 And here's how I know they hate you, because we actually have a consultant here in Arizona who hates Republicans, who actually had a back memo leaked where they're talking about all the benefits of how to basically destroy conservatives.

00:33:32.000 And process.

00:33:34.000 I saw.

00:33:34.000 I've read it with my own eyes.

00:33:36.000 They made it very transparently clear.

00:33:37.000 They can eliminate party primaries.

00:33:39.000 They can eliminate conservatives.

00:33:41.000 This is all the guys, this is what they want.

00:33:43.000 And Arizona is at the front lines right now of this.

00:33:46.000 The West Coast, Alaska, Idaho, Utah, Arizona.

00:33:50.000 Washington, which they have jungles.

00:33:52.000 Yeah, Washington already had jungle.

00:33:53.000 They got through jungle and they realized jungle's not good enough because Republicans look to make it through.

00:33:58.000 But I just want, I know this is really hard for people to understand.

00:34:01.000 When you do rake choice voting, there's an algorithm then that gets implemented that then gives the preference to the second candidate.

00:34:08.000 And the formula is not really clear what it is.

00:34:11.000 Well, it can be different.

00:34:12.000 They could change it all the time.

00:34:14.000 That's right.

00:34:14.000 I mean, if you leave it clear, because what happens if you have 45% of people want the first one, but then the next tabulation, 41% of people want the second one?

00:34:24.000 How do you possibly tabulate that?

00:34:26.000 So cut 101, again, so the person who was on that clip is Emma Ashlock, Murkowski campaign coordinator.

00:34:32.000 Instead of winning over voters, Lisa Murkowski was worried about taking over the process. 1.00

00:34:38.000 Wake up, everybody.

00:34:39.000 Play cut 101.

00:34:40.000 Ballot measure two asks voters to pick second and third choice candidates in addition to their favorite.

00:34:46.000 And those preferences are counted if no one wins a majority.

00:34:49.000 Some people's ballots don't end up counting in the final results.

00:34:52.000 And between you and me, ballot measure two is actually created.

00:34:55.000 I think it was created for two reasons.

00:34:57.000 I remember why it was created because there were people in the state who wanted to see a better system.

00:35:01.000 But they also wanted to wait so they get reelected.

00:35:04.000 Our comms director, his name is Shay.

00:35:06.000 He was the comms director for ballot measure two.

00:35:08.000 That was his job previously.

00:35:09.000 So that's how we know him.

00:35:11.000 They're bragging about how they got this through to help Murkowski.

00:35:15.000 Well, and we're having emails come through right now.

00:35:17.000 People are legitimately confused.

00:35:19.000 You should be confused because the process is confusing.

00:35:21.000 It's intentionally confusing.

00:35:22.000 They're asking questions.

00:35:23.000 They say, couldn't you vote for the same person over three times?

00:35:27.000 No, like they just mentioned on this video, as soon as your candidate doesn't make that first threshold and gets dropped off the bottom, basically your vote no longer counts.

00:35:35.000 And so that's the other threshold in the next round.

00:35:38.000 So that was the conversation we had before.

00:35:40.000 Well, even if they allow you just to vote for one, well, if yours drops off, basically you're not even voting in what would be a runoff or a general election.

00:35:49.000 And so I'm telling you guys, this is one of the most anti-democratic measures ever passed.

00:35:54.000 Now, the way to do it, if you're in Alaska, this is the only way to game the system and you got to get the word out.

00:36:00.000 If the algorithms are trusted, you have to rank Murkowski last.

00:36:04.000 Dead last.

00:36:05.000 Right?

00:36:05.000 Or you don't rank at all.

00:36:07.000 But if you don't rank at all, then you actually might not get to the next round.

00:36:11.000 It's so confusing.

00:36:12.000 They do it in QB.

00:36:13.000 Here's why they do it confusing.

00:36:14.000 They know Murkowski will get like 35 to 36% on the first round, 30% on the first round.

00:36:20.000 But a lot of Republicans will be like, oh, okay.

00:36:23.000 I mean, I like Tushbaka, but I would rather have Murkowski than a Democrat.

00:36:27.000 And then some Democrats will like Murkowski, and that will get them to the 40 to 50%.

00:36:31.000 And Murkowski will be called the winner when in reality, she lost.

00:36:36.000 What do we call second place? 0.95

00:36:37.000 First loser. 0.80

00:36:39.000 Guys, in Utah, they were trying to take out Mike Lee with this process. 0.99

00:36:43.000 They're going to get more aggressive with it so they can get Mitt Romney through next election because they know they're screwed with him in Utah.

00:36:49.000 Guys, wake up.

00:36:50.000 You got to stop ranked choice voting in your state.

00:36:52.000 Do not even allow it the local municipal election.

00:36:54.000 We got to go.

00:36:54.000 tpaction.com slash DeSantis for our amazing rally coming up on Sunday.

00:37:00.000 And we are going to keep on pounding this.

00:37:02.000 Ranked choice voting is a process takeover by the Unit Party very quietly and sneakily to steal your voice.

00:37:09.000 Thank you, Tyler.

00:37:09.000 Thanks, guys.

00:37:12.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:13.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:16.000 Thanks so much.

00:37:17.000 Talk to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - August 12, 2022

The Deep State Doesn’t Own You with Tyler Bowyer

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