00:00:39.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:47.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:26.000So this is a pretty extraordinary scandal.
00:01:29.000A lot of people have seen censorship in isolated cases like Hunter Biden laptop story, where a single story was censored or certain accounts were individually censored.
00:01:39.000What we're talking about in the aggregate here is 22 million tweets censored or throttled by the Department of Homeland Security's outsourced censorship consortium in the five months before the 2020 election.
00:01:54.000Then the same group went on to censor COVID in tandem with federal government partners.
00:01:58.000So they essentially used a blackwater model of private military contractors, except DHS started doing that for speech policing at home in 2020 through these sort of private censorship mercenary groups.
00:02:11.000So the one in question here is a group called EIP, Election Integrity Partnership, and they're made up of four major disinformation labs who are sort of the heavyweight hitters in the censorship industry, particularly staffed by national security, state, intelligence, and foreign policy folks.
00:02:31.000Now, the total damage that they did to a free and open debate around the 2020 election was 22 million tweets censored, 860 million tweets put in databases, 15 different social media platforms scrubbed in real time, 120 staffers working 16 to 20 hour shifts for five months to censor every emerging narrative that had to do with a pro-populist or pro-Trump sort of beat around election information.
00:03:01.000And it was all carefully structured months in advance.
00:03:04.000And my foundation, Foundation Freedom Online, has chronicled this in granular detail with insider confession videos of both the Department of Homeland Security and EIP conspiring to say that they were structuring the censorship to be run through EIP because the federal government could not do it directly.
00:03:22.000And so they were running an end run on the First Amendment by outsourcing it to this mercenary censorship group.
00:03:28.000Okay, so that is an extraordinary revelation.
00:03:34.000My tweets or my Twitter is involved in this.
00:03:39.000So they targeted you because you've got a very large platform and are very influential force, both in the sort of conservative space, but then also particularly in youth movements.
00:03:50.000Now, In EIP's 292-page after-action report that they submitted essentially for more donor funding.
00:03:59.000And by the way, the Biden Foundation would go on to give federal government grants with your taxpayer money to all four of these entities in that censorship consortium.
00:04:08.000But they wrote this 292-page sort of tell-all of what they did about a month before they got that millions of dollars from the Biden administration.
00:04:17.000And your name comes up seven times in that report.
00:04:22.000Among other things, they named you as they compiled, they compiled a list of the top 21 repeat misinformation spreaders for the 2020 election.
00:04:30.000And then they actually ran that list to the Twitter censorship czars.
00:04:35.000If you saw in the Twitter files, these sort of classifiers attached to accounts of like repeat misinformation spreader.
00:04:41.000That language comes directly from language that EIP was using to classify, to classify folks that wanted censored in its own internal documents.
00:04:53.000So you were named one of the top 21 most, you know, biggest threats to democracy by the DHS's censorship Blackwater group.
00:05:03.000So and then, and just a quick thing, just to kind of round out the context, one of the things they dinged you for was that you were quote asking questions and retweeting posts about the Arizona Sharpiegate debacle.
00:05:20.000And now I've posted in a thread here on my Twitter at MikeBenCyber the direct communications between EIP, the Department of Homeland Security, and the censorship staffs of Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram, as well as the DHS EII SAC, the Cyber Mission Control.
00:05:37.000All they brag their own screenshots in the report of how they censored the Sharpiegate narrative, even though the government officials they asked said they weren't sure that the Sharpiegate narrative was even false because it may cause problems with the voting machines.
00:05:52.000Despite that being the feedback from their own government partners in those censorship tickets, they nonetheless censored it at scale.
00:05:58.000I think it was something like 700,000 tweets that they got throttled about that.
00:06:02.000And they named you as the chief instigator of it because you were asking questions that amplified the issue.
00:06:09.000Yeah, and potentially also was the reason I received that tag, do not amplify, which has only been made public thanks to Elon Musk.
00:06:18.000Now, let me ask you: so, do we know for certain that the Department of Homeland Security was lobbying for the suppression of domestic speech?
00:07:05.000I just find this outrageous, the rationale here.
00:07:08.000But there are so many, yeah, there are so many more levels to this scandal.
00:07:12.000It's hard to fit it all into 20 minutes, okay?
00:07:15.000One of the things that they have in their own censorship advisory documents, the frameworks they concocted at the academic level, which they then put in their 292-page report, was that the express purpose for the censorship was to block three quote IRL outcomes from happening: mainstream media news coverage, protest activity, not violence, First Amendment protected protest activity on the basis of social media narratives, and legal action or lawsuits on the basis of social media narratives.
00:07:45.000And so, just think about that from a First Amendment perspective.
00:07:48.000They had this framework, which they called incident narrative virality threshold IRL, which were the four stages of a post going from Twitter to having real life impact on our regulatory, legal, or political sort of ecosystem.
00:08:06.000I mean, leave aside them trying to block accounts from getting mainstream media coverage.
00:08:11.000They explicitly put in their own infographics that their purpose was to stop.
00:08:16.000posts from spreading when they were at the narrative level before they hit the virality threshold.
00:08:21.000That way they could never translate into conservative protests or conservative lawsuits or legal action that could get government policies changed.
00:10:05.000I mean, I'm going to explore suing the Department of Homeland Security.
00:10:09.000It's not legal for the federal government to use, as your appropriate term, and it's rather, you know, it's really insightful, mercenaries to be able to suppress God-given rights and constitutionally protected freedoms.
00:10:23.000Well, there's a million things that can be done at the policy level to devastate the censorship industry if the political will could be marshaled to actually implement these changes.
00:10:33.000Actually, one of the things that now candidate Donald Trump put forward about three weeks ago in a video that was the first sort of public articulation of policy for his campaign was a list of about five things that could be done in a day one executive order to take on the censorship industry.
00:10:52.000And this is very similar to a list of six policy solutions that my foundation, FFO, put out.
00:10:59.000And that is, number one, defunding the censorship industry at the federal level completely.
00:11:05.000Most people don't know this, but the federal government is the censorship industry's biggest customer.
00:11:11.000At FFO, we've documented well over $50 million in government grants just going to this censorship mercenary army in the private sector and civil society.
00:11:22.000We estimate that figure has ballooned well over a million, well over $100 million just under the Biden administration, going to the salaries and resources of censorship professionals.
00:11:32.000We're in the middle of a market-sizing exercise, and I can go into that in more detail, as well as a ban on the revolving door between federal officials and domestic censorship equities, a ban on all qualification in the future for any federal government grants or contracts.
00:11:47.000That's a half a trillion-dollar industry.
00:11:49.000If you directly or indirectly support or affiliate with the domestic censorship organ, there's so many things that can be done on the carrot and stick side to defund the speech police.
00:12:00.000And I'm optimistic that now there's finally starting to be the political will to take action.
00:12:04.000There's much more we can do than just 230.
00:12:06.000Yeah, I mean, it's also, but it's the federal government that outsources what is so blatantly illegal if they did it themselves.
00:12:16.000And so there has to be a massive response to this.
00:12:20.000I mean, the courts are one of the only ways to remedy it.
00:12:23.000I'm not optimistic that the Republican Congress is going to defund any of this because it's largely under national security, and Republicans don't touch that kind of black box of national security clandestine operations from the agency or from the FBI.
00:12:39.000And so tell us more about this report.
00:12:41.000Where can I find this report where I am generously mentioned in their fundraising appeals?
00:12:47.000So this is called, it's called a long fuse of misinformation.
00:12:53.000You're talking about the 292-page election integrity partnership report.
00:12:59.000If you just run Google search for Stanford EIP long fuse misinformation, it'll pop up immediately.
00:13:06.000They're now basically selling it and licensing this 292-page report to colleges and universities around the country so that censorship and disinformation labs at 40 plus U.S. colleges and universities can learn at the feet of the Herculean censorship effort that was done for the 2020 election so that it can be simulated and escalated in 2024.
00:13:29.000I mean, it's just this is not going to stop anytime soon.
00:13:33.000And so who funds this organization again?
00:13:52.000This is literally just researching people like Charlie Kirk or Rick Brunnell to find out the best way to censor their entire audiences across 15 different platforms.
00:14:03.000But so Stanford and UW, Kate Starboard's UW lab.
00:14:07.000UW is basically a substantially Gates-funded, you know, sort of close to Seattle University, very close to Fort Lewis and the military establishment there.
00:14:18.000And you've got Stanford, the Stanford lab run by Alex Thamos, which is basically folded under Michael McFaul's, the Russia ambassador under Obama, his Freeman Spigoli Institute at Stanford.
00:14:32.000It's all these same couple dozen people that just keep circulating.
00:14:44.000You censor, you know, you censor for the incoming administration, then they turn around and give you $3 million just to keep up the good work on censorship.
00:14:57.000Graphica got $5 million in Pentagon misinformation grants where they then use that money to censor in their own writings, right-wing and conservative news sites that were critical of electoral integrity or COVID.
00:15:13.000They literally put right-wing and conservative, and they're getting $5 million of your money from the Pentagon.
00:16:32.000You, Darren Beattie, deserve credit for the courage and the investigation into Ray Epps these last couple of, let's say, year and a half, especially.
00:16:44.000Ray Epps, of course, was screaming at the top of his lungs saying that we are going to storm the Capitol.
00:17:03.000The January 6th committee just released a transcript of its extended interview with Ray Epps.
00:17:11.000And I'm in the process of putting together sort of a more extended response for Revolver.
00:17:17.000But just to give your listeners some of the highlights to this, some of the questions that they asked Ray Epps.
00:17:24.000First of all, they said, you know, Ray Epps is the only person caught on camera as early as January 5th telling people to go into the Capitol repeatedly.
00:17:35.000So first they ask him, what's the deal?
00:17:38.000Why are you telling people to go into the Capitol?
00:17:40.000His response is, I didn't know it was illegal.
00:17:45.000I thought the doors would just be open, which is a very bizarre answer, especially when if you look at the video of Ray Epps, he says repeatedly in this rehearsed fashion, he says, I'm probably going to go to jail for this.
00:18:00.000I'm probably going to get arrested for this.
00:18:03.000And yet, when he's asked by the committee why he said it, he said, well, I thought it was perfectly illegal.
00:18:09.000This, of course, contradicts his claim that he's probably going to get arrested for this.
00:18:14.000There's so many bizarre things in there, going all the way back to the reason for him going to DC in the first place.
00:18:22.000Now, I've reported, Revolver's reported repeatedly that he traveled from Arizona to DC and didn't even attend Trump's speech.
00:18:31.000And he confirms this in the committee interview.
00:18:34.000He said, we left when Trump began speaking.
00:18:40.000Well, he claims that he sensed something was going on and he just wanted to be there in order to de-escalate.
00:18:47.000He just wanted to be there to deal with that.
00:18:50.000Yeah, the great Ray Epps is the pressure release valve for the everyday plumber and electrician that was soon to be caught in a criminal scene.
00:20:38.000And then they said, Well, what about this text that you sent just as you were leaving, basically bragging to your nephew how you orchestrated?
00:20:45.000He literally said, I was on the front lines with a few people.
00:20:49.000I orchestrated it, bragging to his nephew.
00:22:02.000And his answer was, you know, I don't know.
00:22:04.000I thought it was just common knowledge.
00:22:06.000Well, if it was common knowledge, why do you have to stand there on January 6th directing everyone to the Capitol as though they didn't know?
00:22:20.000And at certain points, even how, given how biased the committee is, it's very clear that some of the members, not Kinsinger, but some of the members are absolutely puzzled by this guy and kind of ask him, So, do you have any theory as to why the DOJ hasn't prosecuted you, given like how many egregious things that he did on that day and how he was just mysteriously taken off the FBI most wanted list?
00:22:48.000And I'm glad they released this thing.
00:22:51.000I mean, they released it in a dead zone, sort of in terms of the news, but I'm glad they released it because it really just underscores how dark and damning this whole thing is.
00:23:02.000You know who it's an insult to, Darren?
00:23:03.000It's an insult to the January 6th prisoners right now that are rotting in jail in pre-trial detention, while someone who was the self-admitted orchestrator, the conductor of the orchestra, right?
00:23:18.000Who is not the one that goes and smashes windows?
00:23:22.000We don't support any of that crap and we never have.
00:23:24.000We also don't support inhumane, Stalinistic pretrial detention where people are rotting and dying for a year and a half before getting a chance to have a trial.
00:23:36.000And just, Darren, you made such a smart point in your coverage of this.
00:23:39.000The whole costume, it just looks at a central casting, right?
00:23:44.000The brand new purchased Trump hat as if he got off the plane at DC Reagan National and went to the gift shop and bought it, to the body armor, to the way he acts.
00:23:56.000It was with such alpha male command, right?
00:23:59.000And yet then he does in his testimony, like, I don't know, I was just kind of a bystander.
00:24:34.000I've tried to be so careful covering apps, and there was a time where he even gestured, like, oh, I'm going to sue Darren Beattie and Revolver because he blames us for all of his troubles because we just report what he did.
00:24:47.000And even at times, I was reluctant to use the word orchestrate, even though that's clearly what he did.
00:24:52.000And the irony is he himself texted to his nephew saying I orchestrated it, which perfectly reflects all of the video evidence, which is perfectly consistent with his being on the top 20 most wanted list, but is not consistent with the fact that Adam Kinsinger, the New York Times, Liz Cheney, and now NBC have all basically come to this guy's defense.
00:25:17.000He's the only January 6th participant that Adam Kinsinger will publicly and vigorously defend.
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00:27:59.000Darren, I ask you this question frequently.
00:28:03.000Oh, that's now we're talking about the other smoking gun of January 6th.
00:28:08.000And we have something really big in the making that will probably come out on January 6th itself.
00:28:15.000But I think the person who planted the pipe bombs is probably not this MAGA terrorist insurrectionist that we hear about.
00:28:26.000Otherwise, I think the Democrats would be a little bit more interested in finding out the identity of the person who planted explosive devices outside of their national headquarters.
00:28:39.000Was the pipe bomb question asked or at least mentioned in the very long report?
00:28:53.000And certainly no questions about why the feds haven't followed up.
00:28:59.000I mean, it's been a long time with no additional information.
00:29:03.000And I don't know if I mentioned this before on your show, but the feds have done very extensive geo-fencing research into anyone who had physical proximity to the Capitol on that day and the day before.
00:29:19.000And the pipe bomber is an absolute no-brainer, easy slam dunk from a geofencing point of view, because we have the time that this pipe bomber was there.
00:29:34.000So you have a precise time, a precise location.
00:29:38.000And we know that the pipe bomber, despite the fact that the feds likely tampered with their surveillance footage, reducing the frame rate, so it's harder to tell.
00:29:47.000You can nonetheless tell that the pipe bomber is actively using a cell phone during the commission of this crime.
00:29:55.000And there's no reason the feds should not easily be able to identify who this person is in geofencing.
00:30:06.000Yeah, I had some information that they actually had a very good lead and had a name and all those sorts of things.
00:30:14.000And then for whatever reason, they just killed it.
00:30:16.000But I mean, they have a lot more surveillance footage that they're letting on.
00:30:20.000They have the footage of this person allegedly going from the metro to the pipe bomb location, a lot of footage that they're not releasing.
00:30:30.000There's like, there's no indication that they have any serious intention of finding out who this person is.
00:30:37.000And just for an interesting coincidence, shall we say, the public face of the pipe bomb investigation, who quietly and mysteriously resigned, was Stephen D'Antuono, the guy who previously ran the Detroit FBI field office where he oversaw the Michigan Fed napping case.
00:30:59.000And so to add on to that, Bubba Wallace, when he said that there was a noose on his garage, had far more federal investigation and federal scrutiny.
00:31:09.000We could find out who planted these pipe bombs.
00:31:12.000But if you're trying to tell me they came from the metro, that is one of the most filmed and the most camera abundant areas in Washington, D.C. You're trying to tell me they couldn't get some sort of wanted picture of him and they just don't want to find it.
00:31:31.000Like I said, I can't give the name just because it hasn't been followed up on, but my understanding is they did actually have a name and address and for whatever reason of the person associated with the metro card that was used, and they simply didn't follow up on it for whatever reason.
00:31:50.000And my working theory is that January 6th was circled by federal agents on multiple levels.
00:31:58.000And typical government, there was probably a right-hand and left-hand thing.
00:32:02.000And so there was probably one clandestine operation that did the pipe bomb thing and another clandestine operation that was doing the day of stuff.
00:32:11.000And they didn't really communicate because the pipe bomb thing really didn't fit.
00:32:18.000It's so outside of their official narrative.
00:32:21.000And so I think all of a sudden, Christopher Wray and the people, the FBI, were like, whoa, who signed off on that?
00:32:27.000Like, we like, okay, it's fine to have Ray Epps scream at people and to have infiltrated agents, but why are we doing both pipe bombs at the RNC and DNC?
00:32:36.000And they have killed the story by just disinterest.
00:32:41.000Well, yeah, in 30 seconds, it's hard to say, but there is a connection between the pipe bomb and J6, which is the timing of the pipe bomb's discovery is so impossibly coordinated with that Ray Epps orchestrated breach on the west side of the perimeter that the public theory as to the pipe bombs, which they weren't meant to go off.
00:33:03.000But if that's the case, how did they count on a random pedestrian finding it to the minute when it would have had to have been found to have that diversionary effect?
00:33:11.000I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader, as they say.
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