The Charlie Kirk Show - The Disrupters v. The Establishment — The MAGA Fire Lit Across America

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00:00:00.000 Today on The Charlie Kirk Show, a full cultural realignment with a sigh of relief.

00:00:06.000 We explain the UFC fight and more.

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00:01:48.000 Happy Monday.

00:01:49.000 It is a glorious day to be alive.

00:01:51.000 Here in sunny Palm Beach, we continue our mission to make sure that phase two goes well.

00:02:00.000 Just trying to help wherever we can.

00:02:02.000 The transition team is doing very well.

00:02:04.000 However, there's three phases to trying to save a country in the modern political environment.

00:02:09.000 Phase one is winning an election.

00:02:11.000 Phase two is making sure that your picks get selected and confirmed.

00:02:16.000 And then phase three is actually governing the country.

00:02:19.000 And then phase three is a whole different thing, which of course we will be on top of every day here on the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:25.000 We're here in Palm Beach and the energy is just off the charts.

00:02:28.000 I have to start here and then we'll go into the UFC fight, which is super interesting and kind of making some comments on the team that Donald Trump is assembling.

00:02:37.000 But first, people are coming up to me saying, Charlie, I can finally feel as if there is a weight lifted off my shoulders.

00:02:43.000 You are living through, and again, it will fade a little bit, but it's going to last a lot longer than I think people realize, a national sigh of relief.

00:02:53.000 You are living through just kind of this major moment where everyday people feel as if we don't necessarily have to live through crisis to crisis.

00:03:05.000 Now, understand the Democrats right now, as we are doing this broadcast, are the weakest that we have seen them In quite some time.

00:03:14.000 They're going to come back, though.

00:03:15.000 They're demoralized.

00:03:16.000 They're disorganized.

00:03:18.000 There's these hilarious stories being written out in Politico and the New York Times about how they're pointing figures and they're saying, well, we have to have the left wing of the Democrat Party kind of stay in its corner and we have to re-embrace Bill Clinton.

00:03:31.000 Good luck with that.

00:03:32.000 When I'm talking to regular people here, though, all throughout Palm Beach, they're coming up to you, Charlie, thank you.

00:03:37.000 I said, well, I did a little bit, but the thanks is really to God and to Donald Trump.

00:03:41.000 They say, I finally feel as if I can sleep well at night.

00:03:44.000 It's amazing how an election truly was in existential terms.

00:03:50.000 Our side believed everything we said about the election.

00:03:54.000 The other side, of course, does not.

00:03:57.000 Just this last weekend, Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough met with Donald Trump.

00:04:02.000 They went to Mar-a-Lago and met with Donald Trump to go bend the knee, which is interesting.

00:04:06.000 Why would you go meet with what you called Hitler?

00:04:10.000 Why would you go meet with what you falsely call the fascists?

00:04:13.000 Because they never actually believed it.

00:04:14.000 And now they want to be in the good graces of the incoming president.

00:04:18.000 So Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough go to kiss the ring and bend the knee.

00:04:24.000 As we're watching this team assemble in front of us, This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to get changemakers in every cabinet level.

00:04:31.000 Remember the lesson in 2016, 2017, 2018 was that we won the election, but we did not win on transition.

00:04:39.000 It's one of the reasons I'm here just to help any way I can.

00:04:42.000 Help to sit in meetings, help to advise where I can, help to expose things that are necessary, help fulfill the president's mandate and fulfill the president's agenda and The American people.

00:04:56.000 And what is that mandate?

00:04:58.000 No more business as usual.

00:05:01.000 No more just kind of doing things the way they've always been done.

00:05:03.000 So we want changes in public health.

00:05:05.000 We want changes in intelligence.

00:05:07.000 We want changes in how we do the Department of Justice.

00:05:10.000 We want changes on the southern border.

00:05:12.000 And President Trump deserves massive credit.

00:05:14.000 Now, some people are saying, but Charlie, I don't know about these picks.

00:05:16.000 Like, hold on a second.

00:05:17.000 Unlike in 2016, 2017, he's playing to win.

00:05:21.000 Yes, some of these risks, some of these are risky on its surface.

00:05:25.000 I mean, there's gonna be a confirmation fight for almost all of these.

00:05:27.000 For Pete Hegseth, for Matt Gaetz, for Tulsi Gabbard.

00:05:31.000 However, he's showing that political promises mean something.

00:05:36.000 It's not just rhetoric.

00:05:37.000 That you are fulfilling the mandate already in the transition team.

00:05:41.000 Because personnel is policy.

00:05:44.000 The personnel that you have surrounding a candidate, surrounding a politician, will end up resulting in the policy.

00:05:52.000 It's not enough just to say, hey, I want to secure the southern border.

00:05:55.000 If you have a bunch of people working at Immigration Customs Enforcement, if you've got a bunch of people at the Department of Justice, like the Solicitor General, that does not believe in the agenda, then they're not going to defend it in court.

00:06:09.000 This last weekend, Donald Trump Went to go claim what was his.

00:06:14.000 He went back to Madison Square Garden, which of course was his major rally before the end of the campaign, to a UFC fight, of course, hosted by Dana White.

00:06:23.000 And he was joined by his Avengers squad.

00:06:27.000 He was joined by Vivek Ramaswamy, Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, Bobby Kennedy.

00:06:34.000 He was joined by the squad that is going to help take back America. 0.62

00:06:38.000 And we are here To help them every single step of the way.

00:06:41.000 It's a longer cut, but it's worth it.

00:06:43.000 This is Donald Trump entering like a conquering general back to the Coliseum.

00:06:49.000 This is Donald Trump entering as if he has vanquished his enemies to roaring applause.

00:06:58.000 Play cut one.

00:07:00.000 We can now officially project that Donald Trump will become the 47th president of the United States.

00:07:07.000 He will be going back to the White House.

00:07:09.000 I will fight for you, for your family, and your future, with every breath in my body.

00:07:27.000 We're never going to stop fighting.

00:07:32.000 For you, for your dreams, for the future of your children, we're going to leave the greatest comeback in American history under Donald Trump's leadership.

00:07:45.000 God spared my life for a reason, to restore America to greatness.

00:07:52.000 Together we can truly make America great again.

00:07:56.000 Now, most of that was a campaign video that Dana repurposed.

00:08:07.000 And this was shown at UFC 309 as Donald Trump enters triumphantly.

00:08:13.000 Understand the cultural realignment that we're living through right now.

00:08:16.000 In what world a decade ago would a Republican candidate in 2014, a Republican candidate and president-elect would enter UFC with roaring applause?

00:08:27.000 Donald Trump has completely remade the Republican Party, and it doesn't stop there.

00:08:32.000 With winning the popular vote and this kind of national sigh of relief, it is an ongoing celebration.

00:08:39.000 An ongoing celebration at UFC and then also on NFL Sunday.

00:08:44.000 Let's just play cut five as I continue to narrate.

00:08:47.000 The Trump dance is going viral from John Jones to Brock Bowers all throughout the NFL where people are doing the YMCA dance.

00:08:57.000 I just think it's hilarious that Donald Trump Has not just realigned the Republican Party, but he has realigned the YMCA dance.

00:09:04.000 And if you know, you know, and I'm just going to say that.

00:09:07.000 This is not just a political victory, everybody.

00:09:10.000 This is a full-scale reorientation of our culture.

00:09:14.000 This is a full-scale reconfiguration of how we view what is acceptable, what is cool, what is desirable.

00:09:23.000 The Democrat Party has embraced what we know what they always have been, which is a bunch of scolds.

00:09:30.000 Hall monitors, political correct police officers, self-involved, self-righteous elitists, that the Democrat Party...

00:09:42.000 Who in the Democrat Party?

00:09:44.000 This is an interesting question.

00:09:46.000 Is there a single person in the Democrat Party that exists today?

00:09:50.000 And if so, email me freedom at charliekirk.com that would enter the UFC fight and get that kind of a reaction.

00:09:57.000 I know you might say, oh, Charlie, UFC is conservative.

00:09:59.000 Well, no, it's not really.

00:10:01.000 These are just men and women, mostly men, coming to go watch a fight.

00:10:06.000 It is not, in essence, a political rally.

00:10:08.000 Yes, it has become more Republican and conservative.

00:10:12.000 If Bernie Sanders entered, would he be booed or would he be welcomed?

00:10:16.000 AOC? It is a cross-selection and a cross-section of America.

00:10:21.000 And Donald Trump enters with roaring applause.

00:10:27.000 Can a single Democrat that you can name enter a UFC fight and be welcomed like this?

00:10:33.000 I can't.

00:10:34.000 Because the Democrat Party embraced a very, very risky political strategy, which is purity tests.

00:10:43.000 If you are not 100% on board with every one of our goofy issues, you are out of the club.

00:10:49.000 We will purge you.

00:10:51.000 Well, turns out that all the people that have been purged Many of whom are now joining Trump's cabinet, ready to retake America.

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00:12:14.000 So Jake Paul fought Mike Tyson on Friday night.

00:12:17.000 I don't know if it was a fight or if it was performative or theater.

00:12:20.000 People say it was a fight, but I think that Mr.

00:12:24.000 Paul let him off easy a little bit.

00:12:26.000 But that's a separate debate for a different time.

00:12:29.000 Let's start with the cut 10.

00:12:31.000 This is Donald Trump entering To claim what is his.

00:12:34.000 Again, this is not a MAGA rally, everybody.

00:12:36.000 These are folks that bought tickets to go watch a fight, not knowing that Trump was going to be there or not.

00:12:43.000 Trump did tease it on the Joe Rogan podcast, but it was not confirmed up until recently.

00:12:48.000 And listen to the roaring applause.

00:12:50.000 He's there with Kid Rock, Dana White, Vivek Ramaswamy, Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:12:55.000 He has completely remade the culture.

00:12:57.000 And what's so amazing is that the bad guys have done everything they could to make him seem uncool, to make him seem toxic, poisonous.

00:13:06.000 And that actually made Donald Trump more liked.

00:13:09.000 The more they attacked Trump and the more that Trump fought, he became more interesting.

00:13:14.000 Let's play cut 10 of Trump's walkout at UFC. Ladies and gentlemen, look who is now making his way to the world-famous octagon flanked by UFC CEO Dana White.

00:13:27.000 45, soon to be 47, President-elect Donald Trump.

00:13:34.000 I wish the people at Cajon could hear the sound in this room.

00:13:41.000 It's so loud in here.

00:13:42.000 It is so loud.

00:13:45.000 It's always loud when he comes here, but now that he's won, now that he's the president again, oh my God.

00:13:52.000 I mean, over the top.

00:13:54.000 Again, I want to make this point.

00:13:55.000 If you're a Democrat, what cultural institution are you latching onto right now?

00:14:04.000 I mean that.

00:14:05.000 If you are a left-winger trying to rebuild the base of the Democrat Party, and I don't want to be too cocky or confident.

00:14:09.000 I'm calling balls and strikes.

00:14:11.000 If you are a Democrat left-winger, What popular institution right now that nonpolitical people consume, that's the kicker, that nonpolitical people consume, excites you.

00:14:22.000 Again, show cut five on screen.

00:14:25.000 The Trump dance all across the NFL. This is a cultural shift, and it is not just cool, but it is uncool to be a left winger.

00:14:33.000 This is devastating them.

00:14:35.000 It's a huge opportunity.

00:14:37.000 The Trump dance on NFL Sunday football is nothing, but it's also everything.

00:14:43.000 It's everything.

00:14:44.000 Four years ago, four years ago, folks, those NFL dances were like taking the knee for George Floyd.

00:14:53.000 People had to apologize for having a Trump hat in their locker in 2015.

00:14:58.000 And all of you in this audience that never gave up, it shows it's a testament to our will.

00:15:03.000 We outlasted them.

00:15:05.000 We outworked them.

00:15:07.000 And the left has kind of just said, Fine, forget it.

00:15:10.000 They've kind of thrown up their hands and they're like, just let them through the floodgates.

00:15:13.000 Just let them through.

00:15:15.000 Now nobody cares.

00:15:16.000 In fact, it's met with celebration and applause.

00:15:20.000 Nick Bosa takes a fine just to say he loves Trump, says it's worth it.

00:15:23.000 And then Nick Bosa does the Trump dance with other, by the way, players of all different races and backgrounds, Hispanic, Black, White doesn't matter.

00:15:35.000 They're all doing the Trump dance because Trump is a symbol of cultural realignment.

00:15:42.000 He's a symbol against political correctness, of free speech.

00:15:46.000 Donald Trump is a symbol to stick it to the man.

00:15:48.000 Donald Trump is a symbol that even when you are down and the odds are against you, Thank you, America.

00:16:03.000 It's the era of truth.

00:16:04.000 It's the era of good.

00:16:05.000 There's a shift in the world, and good is rising.

00:16:08.000 The truth is rising.

00:16:09.000 I'm just honored to be a part of America, and it feels like we're back, baby.

00:16:12.000 It does feel like that.

00:16:14.000 Trump is a symbol of the value of calling it like it is.

00:16:18.000 It took eight years, but more and more people realized, well, Trump was right about what he said on the border, on foreign policy, on war, on political correctness.

00:16:26.000 The left so overplayed their hand by trying to censor our thoughts.

00:16:32.000 Let's play cut John Jones, who is the UFC champion from this last week.

00:16:37.000 And he gave his belt to Donald Trump, by the way.

00:16:39.000 Just an awesome moment.

00:16:40.000 Play cut six.

00:16:41.000 While everybody's cheering and so happy, I want to acknowledge Jesus Christ.

00:16:47.000 I tell you what, man, I cannot take credit for a gift like this, man.

00:16:51.000 I really owe it all to him.

00:16:53.000 And I know that there's millions of people around the world watching right now.

00:16:56.000 And I just want to let you guys know that Jesus loves you so much.

00:16:59.000 I also want to say a big, big thank you to President Donald Trump for being here tonight.

00:17:07.000 Trump, check it out.

00:17:13.000 USA! USA! Let's go!

00:17:15.000 USA! USA! USA! I'm proud to be a great American champion.

00:17:22.000 I'm proud to be a Christian American champion.

00:17:27.000 Man, by the way, the whole planet watches these fights.

00:17:31.000 I think hundreds of millions of people end up watching it if you count the clips.

00:17:35.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:18:45.000 Joining us now is a wonderful man and a fighter for America, one of the good guys in D.C., Senator Eric Schmidt from the great state of Missouri.

00:18:54.000 Senator, welcome to the program.

00:18:56.000 Hey, it's good to be with you.

00:18:57.000 By the way, at my desk here at home, I just happen to have a pocket constitution at my desk.

00:19:02.000 Now, I don't think it's from Hillsdale, but I'm glad they're doing that.

00:19:05.000 Well, Senator, let's start with that.

00:19:07.000 In Congress in general, wouldn't it be nice if most senators and members of Congress would be carrying around a pocket constitution?

00:19:14.000 That would definitely focus the body, wouldn't it?

00:19:16.000 It would.

00:19:17.000 And also this civics class that we should all revisit, which is the states created The federal government and agreed that they should have limited powers, right?

00:19:28.000 So when you get to DC, it's like everybody wants to solve every problem with expanded authority and that's just not the design of the founders.

00:19:35.000 I think that is the most important lesson because it's meant to protect liberty, right?

00:19:39.000 You spread out power, you diffuse it, and the purpose of all of that is to protect individual liberty.

00:19:44.000 I think, yeah, people in DC should take note Revisit that.

00:19:48.000 And one in particular, now that we're on this topic, Senator, is I would love to see the Republican House, Republican Senate revisit how we veered off course where the administrative state is able to author laws without consent of Congress.

00:20:02.000 I know this is something that you've really been passionate about when you were previously Attorney General and also in the Senate, but we're talking about anywhere between 80,000 to 100,000 laws and regulations that have basically been authored and implemented without Yeah,

00:20:29.000 in fact, when I gave my first floor speech or maiden speech in the Senate, the two topics that I identified as the biggest threat to our republic is the suppression of free speech and the growth of the administrative state.

00:20:41.000 And I think that, you know, the administrative state It's just as antithetical to the design that the founders that we're talking about the Constitution had in mind, because the whole idea of our country is that we could self-govern, right?

00:20:53.000 And this was an anomaly in world history.

00:20:56.000 It still is, for the most part, in the world today, that the people are the sovereign, right?

00:21:01.000 And the people grant this authority to their elected representatives to go do certain things, and they can send them home or they can send them back.

00:21:08.000 But ultimately, somebody's accountable, right?

00:21:10.000 The big problem, Charlie, as you know, with the administrative state is nobody's accountable.

00:21:14.000 You have no idea who the deputy undersecretary of some agency you've never heard of is.

00:21:19.000 And if they can write a guidance letter to destroy your business or your livelihood or take away your liberties, or say, for example, OSHA wants to force 100 million people to take the shot or the...

00:21:31.000 Joe Biden with the stroke of a pen can wipe away a half a trillion dollars worth of student loan debt.

00:21:36.000 That's what they want, because they want to aggrandize their authority. 0.98

00:21:39.000 But that's not what they're empowered to do.

00:21:41.000 And so I do think there's a couple things that should happen by way of executive order.

00:21:46.000 And I think you're going to see Vivek and Elon Musk take on some of these things that can be done from an executive level.

00:21:51.000 But we do have to have structural reform in Congress.

00:21:54.000 Whereas if some bureaucrat wants to ban gas stoves, we should have to vote on that, right?

00:22:00.000 And then the people in Missouri can judge me on my vote.

00:22:01.000 The people from Idaho can judge somebody from Idaho on their vote.

00:22:04.000 But right now, there's just no accountability.

00:22:06.000 So it really is a fundamental issue about our republic and self-government.

00:22:12.000 So I absolutely think there needs to be a focus.

00:22:14.000 It's some of the things that I'm going to be working on in the Senate.

00:22:16.000 And of course, in my previous life as AG, we brought a lot of lawsuits that were successful, but we brought that Missouri versus Biden lawsuit that showed these administrative actors coordinating with some of the biggest companies in the history of the world to suppress speech, which is really scary, too.

00:22:30.000 Without getting too wonky, this is just for my own purposes and the audience will definitely hopefully go deeper on this.

00:22:39.000 The Chevron doctrine does not go as far on this topic, is that right?

00:22:44.000 That just means that the scope of the regulation cannot be extended.

00:22:48.000 It doesn't necessarily get down to the route that regulatory agencies cannot author new rules.

00:22:54.000 Am I understanding that correctly?

00:22:55.000 So I think the best way to describe it is there were two cases that kind of chipped away.

00:22:59.000 There was this, and then the most important one probably is this West Virginia versus EPA case that was decided a few years ago.

00:23:05.000 So for the audience, Chevron gave outsized authority or deference to these agencies, which basically said, hey, kind of trust the experts here, and the courts would defer to their opinions in an outsized way.

00:23:16.000 So that starts to get chipped away over the years.

00:23:19.000 There's something called the major questions doctrine, which is, hey, if this is a big enough deal, maybe Congress should have to weigh in on it.

00:23:26.000 So that came down a couple years ago, which was a big step.

00:23:28.000 But in the Loper-Bride case that was decided this past summer, the Supreme Court basically said Chevron was wrongly decided.

00:23:38.000 Okay, so these agencies shouldn't have that much authority.

00:23:41.000 But what now remains, Charlie, is what are we left with?

00:23:46.000 And so, actually, I'm leading a working group in the Senate, working with people like Mike Lee and others, so that Congress now reclaims some of this authority, right?

00:23:55.000 We should be the ones that have to vote on these things.

00:23:57.000 Our legislation should probably be a little bit more prescriptive, so we don't give them this much authority.

00:24:03.000 The other truth is, some people in Congress kind of like it, Charlie, because they can say, hey, I voted for the greatest bill in the world, but I can't believe what the EPA did.

00:24:11.000 They can kind of pass the buck and we got to change that dynamic too.

00:24:14.000 So there's some work to do, but that's a big opening for us with the Chevron decision being overturned, but we got to do something with it.

00:24:21.000 I agree.

00:24:22.000 Thank you for that.

00:24:22.000 So now shifting gears to personnel, which obviously that's been all the attention the last week and a half on the newly minted Senate, which is now 53 seats, as long as they don't completely steal it in Pennsylvania.

00:24:34.000 I don't say that lightly, Senator.

00:24:36.000 What they're doing in Pennsylvania right now is so outrageous.

00:24:39.000 Do you have a comment on that, by the way?

00:24:41.000 They're counting illegal ballots in broad daylight.

00:24:44.000 Even the Washington Post is calling them out for their theft.

00:24:47.000 Yeah, and the courts have said you can't do it.

00:24:49.000 This isn't an open question like, hey, do we think we can and we want to do this as provisional ballots?

00:24:54.000 You can't count the ballots that they're counting, but they're doing it anyway.

00:24:59.000 So it is kind of scary.

00:25:00.000 I'm still hopeful.

00:25:01.000 I don't think there's enough there, but it still should be.

00:25:05.000 Concern everybody.

00:25:06.000 And I think that, you know, people ought to be stepping up.

00:25:08.000 And I think the Trump legal team did a very good job on the front end of addressing some of these issues.

00:25:14.000 And now we're left with this.

00:25:15.000 But I'm confident it's going to work out.

00:25:17.000 But this is a cautionary tale.

00:25:19.000 Yeah, it's outrageous.

00:25:21.000 So congratulations on 53.

00:25:23.000 There's been a lot of chatter about advice and consent, about potential recess appointments.

00:25:29.000 Let me take a step back before we get specific.

00:25:32.000 Do you feel as if in the conference there is a renewed sense of urgency to give President Trump his cabinet that the American people voted for?

00:25:40.000 I know you were not in the Senate then, but at least based on your colleagues that were, do you think that we're in a more urgent place to move more rapidly than in January of 2017?

00:25:52.000 I do.

00:25:53.000 I think that, you know, we were back there last week, and as we gather, it's the first time we've been there since the election.

00:25:59.000 And you do feel like there is a sense of urgency to move an agenda, and that does mean cabinet picks forward quickly.

00:26:09.000 Because, look, we've got four years, but we may only have two years.

00:26:13.000 You don't really know how this is going to work out.

00:26:15.000 But we've got a moment in time here.

00:26:17.000 And I think, Charlie, one of the important things about leadership It's understanding the moment that you're in.

00:26:24.000 So if you take a step back and look at what happened, and you guys did a lot of great work.

00:26:29.000 I saw you in Arizona just a couple of days before the election of all the great work you were doing on the ground.

00:26:34.000 And so you think about that.

00:26:37.000 President Trump, after the Democrats tried to bankrupt him, keep him off the ballot, throw him in jail, there were two assassination attempts, he delivered the biggest political comeback in American history.

00:26:51.000 And that's not an exaggeration.

00:26:52.000 I mean, people were writing him off and he was victorious.

00:26:56.000 I'm glad that I was, I think I was either the first or the second senator to endorse him.

00:27:00.000 Tuberville and I argue about that from time to time.

00:27:04.000 But anyway, I mean, he delivered, right?

00:27:06.000 And what's more amazing is it's with a different coalition.

00:27:10.000 Like, I'm 49.

00:27:12.000 Like, it's a different coalition than we had when I was growing up, which I think is a great thing.

00:27:15.000 I grew up in a working-class neighborhood.

00:27:17.000 You know, my dad worked seven days a week in the midnight shift.

00:27:20.000 Those are our voters now, right?

00:27:21.000 They're low-propensity voters sometimes, which I know you were doing a lot of work, and others were to make sure they go vote.

00:27:26.000 But we've got a multi-ethnic working class coalition now.

00:27:29.000 We've got also, you have RFK Jr.

00:27:32.000 and you've got Tulsi Gabbard and you've got all these other sort of disruptors.

00:27:35.000 And so you really had the dynamic, as I see it, was the disruptors versus the establishment, right?

00:27:42.000 That's what people wanted.

00:27:43.000 That's what they voted for.

00:27:45.000 And so we have a very unique opportunity, a once in a lifetime opportunity, as far as I'm concerned, to really take on Permanent Washington.

00:27:53.000 And so, yes, there are things that we can do in the Congress to address those things structurally, and we should.

00:27:59.000 But you also need reformers inside the agencies to go do that and who share that vision that you trust as well.

00:28:06.000 And to me, that's what these cabinet appointments are all about.

00:28:09.000 And so when President Trump, who got a mandate, sweeping the battleground states, winning the popular vote — and I'm not sure how many people actually saw that coming, if they're being honest — Winning all of those things, he deserves the ability, in my view, to put the people that he trusts to go execute on this reform agenda.

00:28:26.000 And so I do think there's momentum for that.

00:28:29.000 My hope is if there are any concerns anybody actually has, that they would try to address those early.

00:28:34.000 Because, in my view, I'm going to support them all.

00:28:37.000 But we've got to get to a place, when we get there January 5th, We've got to be ready to rock and roll with hearings and move these nominees forward for approval.

00:28:49.000 Okay, so just really quick, there's been a lot of chatter on recess appointments.

00:28:53.000 Is there appetite within the body, not leadership, if we get too stalled here to be able to use recess appointments where both the houses of Congress would basically recess and President Trump could fill his cabinet for two years and 700 days?

00:29:08.000 I do.

00:29:09.000 I think that we got to peddle the metal.

00:29:11.000 We got to do everything we can through the typical process.

00:29:13.000 But for me, it's on the table.

00:29:14.000 It should be.

00:29:15.000 It'll take a great deal of coordination, which we've got the House and the Senate allows us to do that if we have to get there.

00:29:21.000 And recessed appointments, by the way, aren't some like historical anomaly.

00:29:25.000 They happened a lot prior to about 12 years ago.

00:29:28.000 So I absolutely think they should be on the table.

00:29:30.000 They need to be used if we have to get there.

00:29:32.000 But I'm also pretty confident That sense of urgency you and I were talking about, that is also for making sure these personnel decisions get the full attention early and for a very long time.

00:29:43.000 If that means that we got to be there over the weekend, whatever, that's what we should do.

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00:30:51.000 So, Senator, what legislative priorities can we expect in the first 100 days?

00:30:57.000 What bills are you going to be pushing for to get on the president's desk and sign into law?

00:31:03.000 Well, I think the first two orders of business, and we're going to work closely with the Trump administration.

00:31:06.000 I mean, one of the reasons I'm excited about this is that I think the...

00:31:11.000 The effort between a Republican House, Republican Senate, and the White House now, I mean, we can do a lot of important things.

00:31:18.000 I think when he comes in on day one, I mean, he's in a bunch of executive orders, but mission, I think, number one will be securing our border, right?

00:31:27.000 The truth is, Biden's team, they came in on day one.

00:31:30.000 They issued 94 executive orders.

00:31:33.000 All were meant to undo the successes we had under President Trump, like remaining in Mexico.

00:31:38.000 I would anticipate that.

00:31:39.000 We get operational control of our border.

00:31:41.000 There are going to be deportations, and that'll be a good thing. 1.00

00:31:44.000 So I think that's the—and if there's legislation that we need to backfill that, I think a lot of that's going to be executive action because the laws are there.

00:31:51.000 They're just not being enforced.

00:31:52.000 But if there's something we need to do, I'm sure that those, you know, illegal immigration issues will be front of mind.

00:31:58.000 Also, one thing to look out for is a lot of those tax cuts are expiring.

00:32:03.000 That President Trump got through in 2017.

00:32:04.000 They expire at the end of 2025.

00:32:07.000 We need to make those permanent so that middle-class families get the tax relief they deserve. 1.00

00:32:12.000 Small business owners make sure they're not stuck with higher price tags.

00:32:16.000 And I think that the...

00:32:18.000 So those two things, and then energy policy.

00:32:20.000 You know, the inflation that everybody's experienced, it's not some act of God.

00:32:25.000 It's not like a hurricane.

00:32:26.000 The truth is, if you declare war on domestic energy production, you spend trillions and trillions and trillions that you don't have, the cost of everything is going to go up.

00:32:34.000 So I would fully expect American energy to be unleashed, and that'll be a good thing.

00:32:39.000 It's good for our national security as well.

00:32:40.000 We're not relying on other countries.

00:32:42.000 So for me, I think those are going to be focuses.

00:32:44.000 Also, I think we need to make sure that free speech is protected in this country.

00:32:48.000 So You know, I've got the legislation that if you're a bureaucrat and you are working with social media companies to suppress speech, you can be sued individually by Americans.

00:32:58.000 It shouldn't have to be some attorney general in some state to do it.

00:33:01.000 You yourself can do it.

00:33:02.000 I think that'll help change the culture of the administrative state to say, listen, people can have information.

00:33:08.000 They can find it wherever they want.

00:33:09.000 It's good that media is diffused, and they can make their own decisions.

00:33:13.000 This command and control, disinformation governance board mentality has got to go, and then also those reforms that we talked about about the administrative state.

00:33:21.000 Like, for example, if you're an agency and you're proposing some new rule that's going to have an economic impact of, pick your number.

00:33:28.000 Mine would be really low, but let's just call it $100 million.

00:33:31.000 Then Congress should have to vote on that first.

00:33:34.000 We should have to vote on it before it ever goes into effect.

00:33:37.000 That's something I'll be pushing.

00:33:38.000 And also, if you've got a new rule, you've got to pull back three.

00:33:41.000 I think, again, it changes that dynamic, puts the power back with the people, and takes it away from permanent Washington.

00:33:47.000 So is there any appetite in the conference, just really quickly in the time of the remainder, to go back to pre-COVID spending?

00:33:53.000 To go back to 2019 levels.

00:33:56.000 I mean, because this is not a big ask.

00:33:57.000 By the way, you know, I've been going up in here on transition, Senator.

00:34:00.000 I learned that almost every federal worker now works from home.

00:34:04.000 I mean, listen to this.

00:34:07.000 It's worse than that.

00:34:08.000 On any given day, only 17% of the federal workforce is in a building.

00:34:14.000 So that means that based on, not there being in person, but in any particular day, only 17% of the people employed are there.

00:34:23.000 It's nuts.

00:34:24.000 And you're right.

00:34:25.000 Look, Joe Biden wanted to spend $7 trillion.

00:34:29.000 We take in about $5 trillion.

00:34:32.000 Pre-COVID spending was about $4 trillion.

00:34:35.000 So you think about that.

00:34:36.000 The explosion of spending since COVID on wasteful programs, there is a lot that we can do to balance the budget.

00:34:42.000 We need to balance the budget.

00:34:43.000 And we also, by the way, we ought to be the oil and gas, all this liquid gold, everything under our feet.

00:34:50.000 That's all new revenue, right?

00:34:52.000 Why wouldn't we use some of that revenue to help pay down the national debt, $36 trillion?

00:34:56.000 I think the American people would support that, which is why if we actually do our jobs, we work with President Trump, we can have an agenda and build out this coalition, I think, for the long term, which is working class people, common sense folks, normal people, Who don't want to be hit with critical race theory and DEI and taxpayer-funded transgender surgeries for inmates.

00:35:16.000 That's the Democrat Party. 0.54

00:35:18.000 Our alternative is, I think, an agenda that works for normal people, working people who just want to be able to have a good life and their kids to have a better life.

00:35:27.000 Senator, thank you so much.

00:35:29.000 Yeah, I mean, I think 17% is generous, by the way.

00:35:32.000 But what I've learned on transition is that the rules are that you have to only come in for one day a month.

00:35:37.000 So what they do is they'll work on the last and the first day of a month, and then they don't come in basically for two months.

00:35:45.000 Insane.

00:35:46.000 Totally insane.

00:35:47.000 But they say that they come in for one day a month.

00:35:50.000 So they'll come in on the 31st and then work on the first, and then they're done basically all for whatever two months those are.

00:35:56.000 The looting operation has to stop.

00:35:58.000 Thank you so much, Senator.

00:35:59.000 Agreed.

00:35:59.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:36:00.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:02.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:04.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 18, 2024

The Disrupters v. The Establishment — The MAGA Fire Lit Across America

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