The Charlie Kirk Show - The Doctors Plotting To Mutilate Your Kids

00:00:00.000 Everybody, this is a critical episode.

00:00:04.000 We here at the Charlie Kirk Show are defending the rights of not only women, but of defining sex as God intended, male and female.

00:00:13.000 We have a bombshell story from WPATH, which is the leading organization globally on transgender medicine.

00:00:22.000 They define the guidelines, and our friends over at the Daily Caller have a bombshell story behind the scenes, never-before-aired clips that show just how sick these people are.

00:00:31.000 These they call themselves doctors, they're like Nazi doctors. 0.85

00:00:34.000 You are not going to believe what you hear these people saying.

00:00:37.000 Then we're joined by Riley Gaines and the sorority sisters from Kappa Kappa Gamma at the University of Wyoming, who were forced to take on a transgender-identifying male.

00:00:48.000 So, a dude who thinks he's a girl.

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00:03:31.000 I have a very special segment in store for you.

00:03:35.000 This is all about the World Professional Association for Transgender Health.

00:03:43.000 And our friends at the Daily Caller News Foundation have done some tremendous work.

00:03:48.000 We're getting them on right now as we speak.

00:03:51.000 But the Daily Caller has done an expose into the World Professional Association of Transgender Health, and they have revealed behind the scenes footage from closed door trainings that are incredibly inflammatory and very, very provocative.

00:04:14.000 And we have a first look at those videos, and you're going to be able to hear.

00:04:20.000 Some of the things that these so-called health professionals say and uh, it's truly truly uh, remarkable.

00:04:29.000 So in just a second, we're going to be joined by Kate Anderson she's a culture reporter for the Daily Caller NEWS Foundation, and Megan Barack, an investigative reporter from the Daily Caller NEWS Foundation, and it sounds like they are good to go.

00:04:43.000 So, without further ado, Kate and Megan, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show.

00:04:47.000 Hi Andrew, thank you so much for having us on.

00:04:50.000 Yeah, honored to have you guys.

00:04:51.000 You guys have done a tremendous work here and really a service to this whole uh, discussion.

00:04:57.000 Now I I gotta ask um so, so for the our, our listeners, who are not aware of what this organization is and what it represents in this space of transgender medical procedures and surgeries, can one of you just take it outline what Wpath is?

00:05:14.000 How important are they in this space?

00:05:16.000 Sure, I can talk about that.

00:05:18.000 Um, so the Wpath is an extremely influential transgender medicine organization um, arguably the most influential in the entire world, not just America, in the entire world, and the reason for that is that they publish guidelines called the standards of care and what this is.

00:05:32.000 It's medical guidance that basically creates the pathway for how patients can receive transgender medicine, and these guidelines are utilized by governments, by insurance companies and by other professional medical organizations to determine how transgender medicine is performed and who gets access to it.

00:05:54.000 Especially with the insurance companies, that's a really big deal.

00:05:57.000 Even state Medicaid uh plans cite their guidance, so they're really uh, influencing not only kids getting very harmed, but also influencing where tax dollars are being spent.

00:06:10.000 So yeah, and and, by the way, feel free uh Kate, if you want to add on to that, and and I want to get into some of these tapes, but you know, let me just say this, these are shocking.

00:06:21.000 I've i've now looked at a number of these, these clips, these.

00:06:25.000 Have these ever been seen by the public before?

00:06:28.000 No yeah no, these have not been seen before, and that's that's why it was so important to us to release um, to release them eventually in their entirety, because these are training videos.

00:06:39.000 So these are the types of videos that are going to be training doctors, like Megan said, internationally how to implement these guidances uh, whether that be in, you know, a large hospital or your local pediatrician's office.

00:06:53.000 So no, we thought it was very important though, that the public be able to see these for the first time.

00:06:58.000 All right okay, thank you both for again for doing this.

00:07:01.000 This is truly important stuff, Really important reporting.

00:07:05.000 I'm going to start playing some of these clips.

00:07:06.000 So this is a surgeon.

00:07:08.000 This is going to be Cut 83. 0.97

00:07:09.000 This is a surgeon euphemistically referring to a phalloplasty procedure, which is a surgical series that includes destroying a vaginal cavity and creating a fake penis with harvested tissue as an adventure. 0.78

00:07:26.000 PlayCut 83. 0.82

00:07:28.000 We're seeing more phalloplasties, yes.

00:07:31.000 And young individuals, you know, they're ready to embark on the adventure.

00:07:36.000 I tell them, you know, it's going to be an adventure when we're both together in there because we have to get to your goals, but there's going to be a few bumps along the way, right?

00:07:46.000 I mean, it could be delays because of complications.

00:07:49.000 Definitely there will be complications, either it's stenosis, fistulas, or partial necrosis, wound healing delays, and stuff like that.

00:07:58.000 That sounds horrifying.

00:08:00.000 And before I get you guys to respond to this, I want to play the next clip.

00:08:02.000 This is 84.

00:08:04.000 So again, this guy's saying it's an adventure, but he's admitting that these same procedures will definitely have complications, such as permanent issues with bladder function and tissue death.

00:08:16.000 Play cut 84.

00:08:18.000 You see urology complication as much as 41%, but some series show up to 80%.

00:08:24.000 I mean, that's a lot.

00:08:25.000 But the very interesting actually that we didn't mention on that slide is that the same series of patients who had 80% complications answered to the question, would you do that over again?

00:08:39.000 100% said yes.

00:08:41.000 So it tells you a lot.

00:08:43.000 Kate and Megan, your reaction.

00:08:45.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that it's pretty shocking to hear.

00:08:49.000 I know in doing this reporting, I learned about a lot about palloplasty.

00:08:53.000 I said in the article that I wrote that from the tapes, they talk about how the average number of procedures for a certain type of phalloplasty is six.

00:09:02.000 So it's a surgical series.

00:09:03.000 It's not even just one surgery.

00:09:05.000 And, you know, I think it's quite an aggressive procedure, as you would point it out, that involves a deep skin tissue transplant to the groin.

00:09:17.000 And there's just so many things that can go wrong.

00:09:20.000 There are so many potential for complications, as was noted in the surgeon.

00:09:23.000 And it's a lot to hear.

00:09:26.000 It's quite shocking.

00:09:27.000 Well, and it also is worth noting when he talks about how, you know, 100% said yes, they would do it again.

00:09:33.000 At what stage are they at of their recovery?

00:09:36.000 Like Megan said, it takes a year to a year and a half just to get those surgeries completed.

00:09:41.000 And that's barring no complications, which he says is basically guaranteed.

00:09:45.000 And so it's like, is this one year after?

00:09:47.000 Is this two years?

00:09:48.000 Is this three years?

00:09:49.000 We know that this medical industry has a difficult time producing long-term studies.

00:09:54.000 And so I would be curious.

00:09:55.000 My first question there is, well, how long has this been?

00:09:59.000 Because I think a lot of times what we see is that the farther you get away from the surgeries and the more long-term consequences that there are, people really start to regret them because they're life-altering and they're very risky.

00:10:12.000 Yeah.

00:10:13.000 And correct me if I'm wrong, but when you do a, when you undergo a surgery like this, you are then basically committing to a lifetime of taking drugs to make sure that the wound doesn't heal, correct?

00:10:27.000 Right?

00:10:27.000 You're essentially boring a hole inside of a groin area and you then have to take a lifetime of pharmaceuticals, correct?

00:10:34.000 Well, I know that the standards of care recommend that someone who has a phthaloplasty has lifelong urologic follow-up because what can happen is when you take someone who has a vagina and you try and create a fake penis, you have to do something called urethral lengthening. 0.99

00:10:48.000 So they have to lengthen the urethra to try and get, if you want to be able to pee standing up out of your fake penis. 0.74

00:10:55.000 And so that can come with a lot of complications, a lot of urinary strictures, which is a narrowing of the urinary tract, and that can require multiple revisions. 0.98

00:11:03.000 Yeah, it's quite gruesome.

00:11:05.000 Yeah.

00:11:06.000 And for our audience, I'm sorry for the graphic nature of this, but I think it's important that we tell you exactly what it is that's happening.

00:11:14.000 And by the way, their tone in these tapes is just shocking.

00:11:17.000 I'm going to play one more here.

00:11:18.000 But 85, this is him joking about regret.

00:11:22.000 Finally, you know, regrets is rare.

00:11:27.000 Although haters will say differently.

00:11:30.000 It doesn't matter to us, right?

00:11:33.000 But we have to be open and to listen to it, of course, and to help to understand why and then to help moving backwards with some surgical options sometimes, if we can.

00:11:46.000 Kate, in 30 seconds here, is this flip tone?

00:11:49.000 Is this what you saw throughout these tapes?

00:11:52.000 Yes, this is exactly what we saw.

00:11:54.000 This kind of cavalier attitude is exactly the type of language that was used regularly.

00:11:58.000 And like when he says, you know, we don't care, and then follows it up with, well, we should probably help them.

00:12:03.000 It's like, what person who has gone through this and who has struggled that far is going to think, oh, you care about me.

00:12:09.000 You're going to help me, you know, get through this because you've done this to me.

00:12:14.000 So it's incredibly disheartening to see that they are so flippant about it.

00:12:18.000 But I think this speaks to just the larger problem as a whole.

00:12:21.000 These are incredibly serious and risky procedures.

00:12:24.000 And I don't think that, and I think these videos are showing that doctors may not take them as seriously as one would think that they should.

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00:14:28.000 I have been hinting about this clip.

00:14:30.000 I found it shocking.

00:14:33.000 I think you guys are going to find it shocking too.

00:14:35.000 But again, it goes to the point that the people that are pushing this radical agenda are terrifying child abusers.

00:14:42.000 That's, I don't know, I don't know how else you describe this next clip that we're going to see.

00:14:47.000 So, Kate and Megan, I'm going to play Cut 92, and I want to get your reaction on the other side.

00:14:53.000 Play cut 92.

00:14:54.000 That's SOC 7.

00:14:55.000 SOC 8 says, think about treating kids at age 14 with hormones, unless there are significant reasons not to do that or to do it earlier.

00:15:05.000 Honestly, 13 and a half, 14 is where I think many places feel comfortable to do that.

00:15:11.000 It means that that is an age where every most experts feel comfortable that many children have the capacity to consent, ascent for treatment.

00:15:20.000 Explain now, Megan, I'll start with you.

00:15:23.000 What does treatment mean?

00:15:25.000 Are we talking surgical treatment, a hormonal treatment?

00:15:29.000 13 or 14 is shockingly young.

00:15:32.000 And it's really powerful that you have this documented so clearly on a video.

00:15:38.000 Yeah, I believe that that was referencing hormone treatment.

00:15:42.000 So the pathway in terms of age is you see kids sometimes as young as eight being puberty on puberty blockers.

00:15:48.000 Now, the standards of care, they don't have specific age limits in the standards of care.

00:15:53.000 But in terms of, you know, obviously, if you're going to block puberty, it's kids who are before puberty.

00:15:59.000 And then you'll see kids around like as young as 13, 14 going on cross-sex hormones.

00:16:03.000 And then that kind of the next step is surgery and it just continues from there.

00:16:07.000 Kate, please continue your reaction to that clip.

00:16:10.000 Yeah, I mean, that clip is a very good, broad idea of kind of what the whole WPATH conversation about consent looks like.

00:16:18.000 And that was one of the focus of our articles is, you know, how can children particularly consent or how can individuals who struggle with serious mental illness consent?

00:16:28.000 Like this same doctor in a different clip during a Q ⁇ A panel said that, or I'm sorry, a different doctor in a different video said that, you know, psychotic patients are also able to consent.

00:16:41.000 Patients who are struggling with schizophrenia or other serious mental illnesses on a case-by-case basis, but they're still able, they're considered to be able to consent.

00:16:51.000 Or another doctor talked about in his notes, how children as young as seven to 14 can be considered on a case-by-case basis, able to consent or not to certain types of treatment.

00:17:02.000 I don't know about you, but I wasn't able to consent to anything at seven, let alone 14, 15, 16.

00:17:09.000 And I think that, again, it raises some serious questions about what they're teaching doctors at these conferences.

00:17:15.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:17:16.000 I mean, I have one other clip here, 86, that kind of gets into what you're talking about.

00:17:21.000 This is the doctors wrestling, not really wrestling.

00:17:24.000 They've come up with their determination already.

00:17:27.000 They've already concluded that, yeah, we can start treating these kids that have other underlying mental health issues really young, even if they're worried that it might make them infertile.

00:17:37.000 They said that, oh, even if they are worried that they might change their mind later, they're still going to move forward with treatment.

00:17:43.000 Play cut 86.

00:17:45.000 But an adolescent who says, I'm just going to adopt Leave Me Alone is different than an adolescent who says, I don't really care about this right now, but I realize I'm a teenager.

00:17:57.000 Maybe when I'm older, I could change my mind, but I don't think I will.

00:18:02.000 That shows that second group shows that that adolescent is capable of understanding that they don't know what their life may be like.

00:18:11.000 That's the type of young person that understands that their decisions that they're making now are impacting them and they could be appropriate for their future or they might not be.

00:18:23.000 And it's not up to us to say, well, if your thing is going to change in time, if your priorities change in time, well, then we shouldn't do this.

00:18:30.000 No, it's to say, great, you understand that.

00:18:33.000 Now let's move forward with what you feel you need.

00:18:37.000 Unbelievable.

00:18:38.000 So this guy's saying, oh, even though you're worried you might change your mind in the future.

00:18:41.000 No, that's fine.

00:18:44.000 Either one of you, just sum up what your experience has been reporting on this incredible footage that you've obtained.

00:18:53.000 I mean, I think we saw a lot of leading experts.

00:18:55.000 I think something that should be noted is that these are not fringe doctors.

00:18:58.000 These are doctors who are leading WPATH experts and repeatedly acknowledging questions and, like you, in that video, you know, kind of giving this idea that a 14-year-old can consent to some of the known risks of infertility or, you know, other things.

00:19:13.000 It's really, it's been very, it's been very shocking to listen to these things.

00:19:16.000 And I hope people get the opportunity to listen.

00:19:18.000 You can go to wpatapes.com and you can see a recording.

00:19:22.000 We're also going to be linking to some of the video clips so people can just get an idea for themselves because everyone deserves to know what's going on.

00:19:28.000 Well said.

00:19:29.000 Thank you.

00:19:30.000 Kate Anderson, Megan Brock from Daily Caller.

00:19:33.000 Really well done.

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00:20:33.000 I am joined by we have some sorority sisters, and we also have Riley Gaines in this segment.

00:20:40.000 I'm so excited about this story.

00:20:42.000 Many of you will have been aware of this from afar at the University of Wyoming, Kappa Kappa, Gamma, a transgender individual or an identified individual, and Riley's going to correct me on this, tried to join the house.

00:20:59.000 And this has become a legal battle.

00:21:02.000 So without further ado, I just want to introduce we've got Hannah Holtmeier, Allie Kogan, Jalen Westenbrook, Brock, and Riley Gaines on the call right now.

00:21:13.000 Ladies, thank you for joining the Charlie Kirk show.

00:21:17.000 It's an honor to have you.

00:21:18.000 And of course, we have Riley Gaines.

00:21:20.000 So Hannah, walk us through what you guys are trying to do.

00:21:24.000 I know you're in front of the, you rallied in front of the 10th Circuit.

00:21:27.000 We got a great picture of that we can throw up.

00:21:29.000 Tell us about what this lawsuit, where it's at, what you guys are trying to accomplish at Kappa Kappa Gamma.

00:21:36.000 Yeah, so it's in the appellate courts right now.

00:21:38.000 So we were in Denver yesterday, obviously arguing to define a woman or woman, sorry.

00:21:44.000 But at the end of the day, Mae Mailman, our lawyer's case, was pretty simple.

00:21:49.000 The whole thing's actually really simple, but she was just defining that our case is about a breach of contract.

00:21:57.000 Kappa Kappa Gamma promised us a sisterhood. 0.74

00:22:00.000 They promised us that we would be in a safe environment, surrounded by females. 1.00

00:22:06.000 And they broke that promise to us when they ultimately shoot a male into our house.

00:22:12.000 So that's what we were arguing yesterday in front of Denver.

00:22:15.000 We had a lot of support.

00:22:16.000 The IWF helped us a lot, along with Capital alumni.

00:22:21.000 Yeah.

00:22:22.000 Well, that's a great overview.

00:22:25.000 And Allie, I'm going to go to you now.

00:22:27.000 So, you know, Hannah brought up the fact that you were promised sisterhood. 0.65

00:22:31.000 You were promised a safe environment.

00:22:32.000 Take us back in time in the story when a man tried to join your sorority and actually apparently succeeded in doing so.

00:22:41.000 What was that like?

00:22:43.000 So, he did not go through the normal process that most girls do to get into the sorority.

00:22:48.000 Usually, we have formal recruitment, and that's where the girls go through all of the houses, and it's a mutual selection process.

00:22:55.000 And so, if you get along with the house and the house gets along with you, then they can offer you a bid.

00:23:01.000 Well, during that process, ultimately, all of the houses did decide to drop this individual.

00:23:07.000 But then he kind of went through a backdoor approach, which is our continuous open bidding process, which we call COB.

00:23:13.000 And that's just a less formal process.

00:23:15.000 You can reach out to our membership chair and then kind of discuss the process of entering the sorority.

00:23:22.000 So, without most of our knowledge, this was happening.

00:23:26.000 And then, all of a sudden, they kind of said, Hey, we would like to offer a bid to this individual.

00:23:32.000 So, we need to vote on it, which is how it normally goes.

00:23:35.000 We always vote on membership.

00:23:37.000 But this vote was a lot different than normal.

00:23:40.000 Usually, we do an app called Omega Recruit for this process.

00:23:45.000 This was not used for this individual, but it was used for all of the other individuals through that recruitment year.

00:23:52.000 So, this time we used a Google poll to vote, and we had to attach our emails, which no longer made it anonymous, which it should have been.

00:24:02.000 And so, that is kind of how it happened.

00:24:05.000 But before this vote happened, we had some of the officers, the seniors, which is my pledge class, stand up and give speeches basically saying that if you didn't give this person membership, you were transphobic, you were all of these horrible, awful things, and you didn't align with CAPIT's values, and you just shouldn't be there anymore.

00:24:24.000 So, there was a lot of bullying approaches.

00:24:26.000 After the first vote, they ended up telling us we needed to vote again.

00:24:30.000 And so, we voted again.

00:24:32.000 And even though it was way different than it was in the past, that's how it happened with this individual.

00:24:38.000 So, there was a lot of things that were kept from us throughout the process.

00:24:43.000 So, wow.

00:24:44.000 Jalen Westenbrock, I'm going to go to you next.

00:24:47.000 So, this vote happens.

00:24:51.000 There was a lot of bullying and coercion, it sounds like, that took place both in this public setting, but also this online forum where they forced you to put your emails up.

00:25:03.000 So, this man gets in essentially through these coercive efforts.

00:25:08.000 What was it like in the days and weeks following that vote?

00:25:13.000 Honestly, it was terrifying.

00:25:15.000 I wasn't sure if anybody else was feeling as uncomfortable as I was.

00:25:20.000 And we felt so uncomfortable that we went to our national leadership and we were sending them emails and phone calls.

00:25:25.000 And it got to the point where they blocked any calls coming from a Wyoming area code and they just blatantly ignored us.

00:25:33.000 They were ignoring our concerns.

00:25:34.000 They were not being there to help and support us like they said they would.

00:25:38.000 And I mean, honestly, I joined college and I never anticipated being part of a lawsuit, but it felt like it was the only action that we could take before they would finally hear us.

00:25:47.000 So, I want to throw up a picture of this individual.

00:25:51.000 I mean, you know, I can say it, you can't.

00:25:55.000 Sometimes, you know, people that are, again, Riley's going to get mad at me.

00:26:00.000 I'm going to get it wrong.

00:26:00.000 Trans-identifying, sometimes they can kind of, you know, pass under, you know, if you're glancing, you're like, oh, okay, that's, I wouldn't know.

00:26:10.000 This is not one of those instances.

00:26:12.000 And there were a lot of rumors about this man and some of the behaviors in the class or in the house.

00:26:21.000 Can you guys share any of those details?

00:26:23.000 Or, I mean, again, protect your lawsuit, do what you have to do.

00:26:26.000 But as far as behavior in the house, were there moments where this guy, this dude, was making you actively uncomfortable or doing creepy things?

00:26:36.000 All the time.

00:26:37.000 And a lot of people go straight to like the bathroom scene, walking out of the shower, walking into the bathroom when he's in there.

00:26:45.000 And that's horrifying as well because obviously he's a large individual.

00:26:49.000 But there are times when he would just sit in the corner.

00:26:52.000 He would just sit in the living room.

00:26:54.000 He would just sit in the dining room.

00:26:55.000 He wouldn't converse with anyone.

00:26:58.000 He wouldn't say anything unless someone went up to talk to him, which no one did, clearly, because he just no one wanted to. 0.83

00:27:09.000 And so that just goes to show that even though, yes, the genitalia is a big issue and the bathroom scene is terrifying.

00:27:18.000 He could just be sitting in the upstairs living room and girls walk by in a towel.

00:27:23.000 So that just the house is an intimate space.

00:27:25.000 One of my very close personal friends was put in that situation.

00:27:28.000 She walked by him in a towel and she felt very uncomfortable.

00:27:32.000 She literally told me word for word that she could feel his eyes on him.

00:27:35.000 So it goes, it goes out of the bathroom scene a little bit too. 0.89

00:27:38.000 Oh my goodness.

00:27:39.000 Well, and by the way, you said something there that I want to just pause on.

00:27:43.000 You know, this guy was, you didn't talk to him.

00:27:48.000 Nobody wanted to talk to him.

00:27:49.000 Some might hear that and say that sounds mean.

00:27:51.000 No, this person and the leadership put you in a position of vulnerability. 0.90

00:27:58.000 And he's a creep.

00:27:59.000 He should not be in a woman's only space. 1.00

00:28:02.000 We need to protect our women's only space. 0.87

00:28:05.000 Riley Gaines, do we have you back?

00:28:07.000 I know that you're going in and out of service here.

00:28:09.000 Riley, what has your message been for these young women, these brave young women that are taking this, that have been put in a position they never asked to be put in, like you, you were put is very similar story for you, Riley.

00:28:20.000 What has your message been to these brave young ladies?

00:28:23.000 Well, yeah, sorry for cutting in and out.

00:28:26.000 On the road, as always, but my message to these brave girls, when we initially got in contact maybe a year or so ago, and first hearing about this story, of course, I kind of saw the parallels.

00:28:42.000 I knew sports was different in a sense from sororities, but upon talking with them, hearing their experience, there are so many similarities.

00:28:52.000 The sisterhood they were promised, it's the exact same thing that me and my teammates were promised.

00:28:58.000 What they got from their sorority in terms of leadership, setting goals, working to achieve those goals, how you develop time management.

00:29:06.000 I mean, your friendships, relationships that will serve you for the rest of your life, specifically in regard to the experience, the trauma, the emotional blackmail, the threats, the risk, all those things, the parallels were there.

00:29:18.000 And so these girls have been incredibly brave.

00:29:22.000 They are fighting for more than just themselves.

00:29:24.000 They are fighting for more than just Kappa, Kappa, Gamma.

00:29:26.000 They are fighting for every young girl who dreams of that sisterhood that they sought after when enrolling at the University of Wyoming.

00:29:34.000 It's actually these girls that inspired me and 15 other athletes to sign on to a lawsuit to sue the NCAA.

00:29:41.000 Yeah, well said, Riley.

00:29:43.000 You know, any of you guys can take this.

00:29:46.000 Allie, I'll go to you actually, since we're sort of going down the line here.

00:29:50.000 What has the reaction been from the sorority, both at the national level, local, your school, your peers, pursuing this lawsuit?

00:30:00.000 Well, at the very beginning, when the situation happened, it was pretty much we could not speak on it.

00:30:05.000 We were silenced from the very beginning.

00:30:08.000 Once things progressed a little bit, obviously we have been able to speak out a lot more about it.

00:30:13.000 There still is a lot of retaliation from them.

00:30:16.000 A couple of our alumni have been kicked out.

00:30:19.000 And so we do have that constant fear that we'll be next.

00:30:24.000 But I mean, it's just been a lot of retaliation and them trying to push back.

00:30:28.000 But at the end of the day, our argument is strong and it's valid and you can't argue fact.

00:30:35.000 Yeah.

00:30:35.000 And I'll just add what we heard yesterday in the court.

00:30:40.000 I just want to add what we heard yesterday in the court, Andrew, from the Kappa attorney, Natalie McLaughlin.

00:30:46.000 Word for word, she said that woman is undefined.

00:30:50.000 It isn't a word that has a singular definition. 1.00

00:30:52.000 It has multiple definitions.

00:30:55.000 She actually went as far to say it's unquestionably not defined.

00:30:59.000 She went on to say that Kappa not only has the right to interpret this word as they wish, she said they have the duty to interpret this word as they wish.

00:31:09.000 And they didn't need to announce their interpretation or redefinition of this word because they didn't need to be transparent.

00:31:16.000 And when one of the judges, a Biden appointee, actually, when one of the judges asked her, okay, well, if you're saying the word woman can mean anything under the sun, cannot include cisgender men, to which she responded with, she doesn't have the research to tell you if cisgender men is a reasonable interpretation for the word woman.

00:31:39.000 That's why I'm not a biologist all over again.

00:31:42.000 Yeah.

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00:32:49.000 Guys, I want to play this clip from MSNBC that our team found with Artemis Langford.

00:32:55.000 He's the one who forced himself into your universe or into your sorority. 0.88

00:32:58.000 And just listen to the way MSNBC talks about this guy.

00:33:01.000 I'm going to get your reaction on the other side.

00:33:03.000 Play Cut 97.

00:33:05.000 It takes a very brave and unique person to do this, to be a first in a situation like this.

00:33:11.000 And then to continue on.

00:33:14.000 I want people to know that everything that they've experienced, that I'm certainly not the first trans person to ever be attacked by elements in the media.

00:33:27.000 I want people to know that it's never okay for that kind of scrutiny on a person just because of their identity, just because I'm trans.

00:33:40.000 Every day that they can be themselves is a good day for us all.

00:33:44.000 Jalen, I'm going to go to you.

00:33:46.000 What's your reaction to the media presenting this guy as a victim?

00:33:50.000 No, he victimized you guys.

00:33:53.000 He victimized all of you girls in this sorority.

00:33:55.000 Your reaction. 0.98

00:33:57.000 Yeah, honestly, I just found this claim absolutely ridiculous.

00:34:00.000 Like, how can a six to 250 pound man that came into our sorority be the victim in this case?

00:34:06.000 He's the one that has scared us, has presented himself in a way that has been super uncomfortable.

00:34:12.000 And he's the one who came into our women's space.

00:34:14.000 So just seeing this clip, I remember my initial reaction is, I just couldn't believe it, honestly.

00:34:19.000 I was like, how is someone seeing him as a victim or seeing us as the bullies?

00:34:24.000 We are just promoting women's faces. 0.99

00:34:26.000 Yeah, I don't see him as a victim at all.

00:34:29.000 See that guy as a total, a 62, 250-pound freak who is a creep who came into your space, invaded your space.

00:34:37.000 And folks, and Riley, I'm going to get you back in on this, but remember from a 30,000-foot view, like these battles are so important.

00:34:45.000 What you guys are doing in front of the 10th circuit, this establishes precedent that will then be nationwide.

00:34:50.000 The world is watching.

00:34:52.000 And if these people can get you to believe that a man is a woman, they can get you to consent and believe anything.

00:34:59.000 At that point, the precedent set.

00:35:01.000 Riley Gaines, what is your reaction to this, Artemis Langford, and how important this case is?

00:35:08.000 I mean, it fires me up beyond belief.

00:35:12.000 As Jalen said, to paint himself as some sort of victim here, remember, sororities were created on the explicit and utter grounds of being exclusive.

00:35:24.000 That was the beauty of sororities.

00:35:26.000 Exclusivity is not only an important thing, I would argue that it's a great thing, especially when safety is being threatened or privacy or equal opportunities.

00:35:39.000 But we have now, in the society that we live in, we have deemed exclusivity as this bad thing that further marginalizes already oppressed groups of people.

00:35:51.000 But are we forgetting that women were historically oppressed if that's the game we're going to play? 1.00

00:35:55.000 And not that long ago, I mean, women couldn't even compete at the collegiate level. 1.00

00:36:00.000 I mean, really at any level, 50 years ago.

00:36:03.000 So, the strides that we have made as women, the people who came before us, who fought relentlessly so that we could have the opportunities that we have now or previously had before the Biden administration, at least speaking to sports and sororities, has rewritten Title IX and abolished our sex-based protections and rights.

00:36:25.000 All of that is being undermined.

00:36:26.000 And they do it under the guise of progress, weirdly enough, and feminism, weirdly enough.

00:36:31.000 But make no mistake, this is not progress. 0.89

00:36:34.000 This is regressive.

00:36:35.000 This is taking us back in time at least half a century.

00:36:40.000 Well said, Riley.

00:36:41.000 And so, Allie, Jalen, just wrapping this up, how can people support what you guys are doing?

00:36:45.000 How can they get behind this case?

00:36:47.000 What are our marching orders for our audience?

00:36:50.000 Keep supporting us, keep speaking out.

00:36:52.000 Before this happened, I was pretty uneducated about everything that was going on.

00:36:57.000 And then when this did happen to us, I realized that it's not just happening to us.

00:37:02.000 And it's one of those things that you think, well, I'm not in a sorority or I don't play women's sports.

00:37:07.000 So how could it ever affect me?

00:37:09.000 But it can and it will because it includes women's bathrooms, women's prisons, any kind of intimate women's space is being infiltrated by men.

00:37:16.000 And so you just need to speak up on it.

00:37:19.000 Yeah, well said, Allie.

00:37:21.000 So, Hannah, Allie, Jalen, and Riley, thank you for your time.

00:37:24.000 I know some of you guys are in transit back from Denver.

00:37:28.000 Some of you guys are going to the next thing.

00:37:29.000 So thank you for voicing just telling us about this important story because it will set a precedent.

00:37:36.000 And we're seeing that in the Boy Scouts now.

00:37:37.000 Now it's just scouting America.

00:37:39.000 We have to protect these spaces that belong to the sexes. 1.00

00:37:44.000 It's a healthy thing.

00:37:45.000 It shows a healthy society.

00:37:46.000 So thank you for your courage.

00:37:48.000 And, you know, literally, do not pay any attention to any of these bullying, this coercion that you're getting from the national level.

00:37:57.000 So thank you again.

00:37:58.000 Thank you, Andrew.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 15, 2024

The Doctors Plotting To Mutilate Your Kids

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