Doge speaks out the super geniuses that are supercharging our government. Phenomenal conversation that Brett Baer had with them. Then David Azarad with one of the more interesting conversations about how President Trump is leading revolution against the major institutions in this country.
00:00:01.000Doge speaks out the super geniuses that are supercharging our government.
00:00:06.000Phenomenal conversation that Brett Baer had with them.
00:00:08.000Then David Azarad with one of the more interesting conversations about how President Trump is leading revolution against the major institutions in this country.
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00:01:30.000The media has done everything they possibly can.
00:01:33.000To weaken Elon Musk and the Doge effort.
00:01:35.000The Doge effort, the Department of Government Efficiency, is a once-in-a-century opportunity to restrain the size, the scope of the federal government.
00:01:45.000We have gone so far off the founders' and the framers' original intent on what a constitutional purpose should be for our federal government.
00:01:53.000Elon Musk sat down yesterday with Bret Baier, with his team of super geniuses.
00:02:09.000This group of super geniuses are a blessing to our nation.
00:02:12.000You see, the media wants you to believe that they are a menace to our nation.
00:02:16.000When in reality, it's the permanent federal bureaucracy that does nothing all day long at best and does active damage to our country at worst.
00:02:25.000They're passing rules and regulations that have no applicability to your life.
00:02:29.000They're the ones that were investigating President Trump.
00:02:32.000They're the ones that are going after small businesses.
00:02:34.000They're the ones that were going after moms and dads at school board meetings.
00:02:38.000And also there's just the unnecessary administrative bloat at the Department of Education and Health and Human Services.
00:02:45.000For example, at the Department of Health and Human Services, Bobby Kennedy has identified there are 100 communication departments.
00:02:58.000We don't need 100 separate communication departments.
00:03:02.000And at every corner and every turn, as you work hard to write your checks by April 15th and tax days right around the corner, you send that money to Washington, D.C. and have it wasted with zero concern for fiscal prudence, for zero concern to try to balance the budget.
00:03:20.000And Elon Musk, despite everything that he has to lose, the Tesla terrorism, the death threats, Them going after his children.
00:03:30.000Elon Musk is an anti-fragile individual.
00:03:34.000You could be fragile, you shatter upon any opposition.
00:03:38.000You could be strong, someone that is able to endure opposition, but anti-fragile, and Donald Trump is the same way, they get stronger the more you attack them.
00:03:50.000They find energy and a life force the more that you throw at them.
00:03:55.000Elon Musk sat down with this group of super geniuses and understand how blessed we are to have people with this high IQ, this determination, working in our government.
00:04:07.000And our media is truly the enemy of the American people for trying to dox them and stop them.
00:04:13.000We may never have this chance again to have this many capable people serving in our government to restore the constitutional intent.
00:04:38.000And sort of at a high level, you should think of this as we want to reduce the spending by eliminating waste and produce the spending by 15%, which seems really quite achievable.
00:04:51.000The government is not efficient, and there's a lot of waste and fraud, so we feel confident that a 15% reduction can be done without affecting any of the critical government's You could only be against this if you work for the government, are receiving graft from the federal government, or you're in on the entire cabal against the American people.
00:05:19.000This truly is the citizens versus The Leviathan.
00:05:23.000It is the citizens versus the intractable federal bureaucracy.
00:05:34.000At Social Security, one of the first things we learned is that they get phone calls every day of people trying to change direct deposit information.
00:05:42.000So, when you want to change your bank account, you can call Social Security.
00:05:45.000We learned 40% of the phone calls that they get are from fraudsters.
00:06:09.000And then somebody doesn't receive their Social Security.
00:06:15.000You are the world's richest man and the greatest innovator maybe of the last 100 years, definitely of a generation, that is using his brainpower, his capacity, his fortune to go make sure that fraudsters are not able to steal Social Security checks.
00:07:58.000The media is going after them relentlessly.
00:08:00.000Capitol Hill is trying to assail them.
00:08:02.000And it's all because they know that we are careening towards bankruptcy as a nation.
00:08:09.000If we do not cut spending significantly, find the waste, find the abuse, find the bloat, find the unconstitutional programs, we will reach a tipping point of no responsibility.
00:08:20.000The amount of issues that were the Social Security system are enormous.
00:08:26.000As an example, there are over 15 million people that are over the age of 120 that are marked as alive.
00:09:02.000There'd be no way to use those for good intentions.
00:09:04.000And so one of the things the Doge team is doing is carefully and very methodically looking at those and making sure that any fraudulent ones are eliminated.
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00:12:19.000And then also something about the Yankees, because baseball is back.
00:12:24.000President Donald Trump signed last evening something I've been pushing for publicly on this show and privately with White House staff, and it is monumental.
00:12:45.000This is a beautiful, delicious ending to your week.
00:12:48.000And of course, the courts are going to try and stop it, but we'll win in the end.
00:12:52.000President Trump is launching an effort that we're not even sure that he would attempt, and he deserves our credit and our praise.
00:12:59.000Late last night, President Trump signed an executive order to end collective bargaining and unionization with federal unions at many federal agencies, including the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, the Department of State, the EPA, and USAID.
00:13:15.000Overall, this would revoke the right to unionize for 75% of currently unionized federal workers.
00:13:29.000People that are in ICE, that are in front lines, that have union agreements, understandably, in case someone gets shot, similar to kind of police officer work.
00:16:44.000And one that will restore fidelity to our federal government.
00:16:47.000That will restore responsibility for the U.S. taxpayers.
00:16:52.000This is one of my favorite of all the executive orders that President Trump has signed to end the forced unionization of people that are supposed to work for us.
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00:19:08.000One is, I think the Democratic Party is unwilling, incapable to moderate itself, to tack to the center.
00:19:17.000Part of me wants to say they're beholden to extremists, but the part of it is that would imply that there's a fringe minority of extremists, whereas the party is run by fanatics.
00:19:26.000So I don't expect any tack to the center anytime soon.
00:19:40.000Let them discredit themselves and keep on being crazy.
00:19:44.000Eventually, one day, I think one sign of winning for us...
00:19:49.000The second thing they're already doing is they're going to deploy the standard playbook they have to interfere and interrupt the president's agenda, which means nationwide injunctions, bog everything down in the courts, have the bureaucracy, the deep state drag its feet and slow things down, mobilize the mobs.
00:20:16.000We haven't seen much of that yet, but remember, they have Antifa on speed dial.
00:20:25.000And then we need to remember that they still control the universities, the elite sectors of America.
00:20:33.000Some people there who were not fundamentally woke are moving to the center, and some universities are starting to respond to the threats.
00:20:42.000That the Trump administration is putting on them, namely deporting students and cutting off funds.
00:20:47.000But, you know, Trump won an impressive victory a few months ago, but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the left is still deeply entrenched in almost all of the elite sectors in America, and that they're not going to go down quietly.
00:21:04.000So, Dr. Asparad, in your online course for Hillsdale College, you talk about how there is...
00:21:14.000And you talk about how there is a quote from Nietzsche of which every society has a central piety that essentially something you are not allowed to make fun of.
00:21:52.000I mean, there is an influence there via the Frankfurt School, but we're dealing with a phenomenon that is different and new, I mean, at least since the 1960s.
00:22:07.000I mean, what defines these identity groups is how oppressed they claim to be and the extent to which their oppression is recognized by society.
00:22:16.000So at the top of the totem pole, obviously, are our fellow Black citizens.
00:22:24.000You see, I mean, to the extent that it has penetrated the right to a large extent.
00:22:28.000I mean, the example I always like to give is, you know, if a conservative foundation is handing out grants to high school students on a purely meritocratic basis, and if they end up with no Black kids, not because they discriminate it, because it so happened that we judge people by the content of their character, almost always they feel bad.
00:23:18.000I think Muslims come and go, but I think the central piety in order are our fellow Black citizens, women, and then, you know, the LGBTQ rainbow coalition, which means you defer to them, you don't contradict them, you don't criticize them.
00:23:38.000You know who Ibram X. Kendi is, right?
00:23:47.000You know, in his interminable, tedious book, Stamped from the Beginning, The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America, which I would not suggest you read, is way too long.
00:24:16.000And I should add that, you know, who gets to have their oppression recognized can change.
00:24:21.000So the Jews used to be part of, you know, the roster of the aggrieved because of the Holocaust.
00:24:27.000But now because of Israel and the fact that Israel is viewed as a white Western colonial nation that is oppressing noble brown Muslims, Jews have lost the oppressed status and are being pushed in the evil white category.
00:24:38.000So these things have some flexibility, but ultimately the left decides.
00:24:44.000If you were to just give an analysis, do you think it's possible or likely that, from a political standpoint, left-wing Democrats will be able to, let's just say, put the more radical elements of their party in a corner and run to the middle?
00:25:05.000How entrenched are what we would call woke, DEI, critical race theory?
00:25:14.000I think if it happens is because we force them against their will to moderate, meaning we need to break the hard left to allow the timid, moderate, more moderate voices on the left and in the Democratic Party to assert themselves because they are, they defer to their left.
00:25:36.000You know, the left flank of moderate liberals is weak.
00:25:39.000They're afraid of being called racist by people to their left.
00:25:42.000So it'll only come about if we succeed.
00:25:47.000You know, one way to think about it is look at what Reagan did with the economy in the 80s and how he forced the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton to somewhat move to the right on economic questions, right?
00:26:01.000The Democratic Leadership Council that got Bill Clinton elected.
00:26:04.000You only do that after you really triumph.
00:26:08.000So I think it won't come about by themselves.
00:26:12.000It'll come about if we win in such a decisive way that we marginalize their radicals, therefore creating room for their moderates to speak out.
00:26:22.000And I don't see a way to do that outside of breaking the universities.
00:26:28.000You had some very kind words about Hillsdale College that I share entirely, but we both know that Hillsdale is in no way representative of a university in America.
00:26:37.000The universities are the nerve center of the regime.
00:26:43.000If you look at the common denominator to the people running the media, Hollywood, the deep state, the judiciary, the non-profit, the foundations, the arts, Hollywood, people who went to college.
00:28:58.000And yet, when you're talking about defunding, we'll just take it for a second, in Mississippi, well, they're like, well, Ole Miss is in the Sweet 16. Why would I defund the school?
00:29:08.000The athletic department is completely different than the fact that they're teaching kids to hate white people.
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00:30:22.000Plug some of the work you're doing in Hillsdale.
00:30:24.000Enlighten our audience about the critical work Hillsdale College is doing.
00:30:27.000So I teach in the D.C. campus, which is a little outpost in the swamp that we set up a few years ago.
00:30:34.000And we have undergrads who come from the main campus to do a semester with us.
00:30:38.000And then the main feature is we have a master's program where we teach the great books, we teach political theory, American political thought.
00:30:47.000You know, I basically describe it as saying we've got one foot in the academy and one foot in the real world.
00:30:53.000So we're going to read Aristotle, we'll read Rousseau, Marx, Nietzsche, but not just with the view to understanding the book, but to thinking about what light they shed on the current American predicament.
00:31:03.000Because at the end of the day, the mission is to revitalize the republic.
00:31:07.000We cannot just send kids to college to live in the clouds.
00:31:35.000deep red states where we are financing the very institutions, the colleges that are teaching our kids to hate themselves, hate their country, hate white people.
00:32:37.000I mean, part of it is we should embolden state legislators to see that most academics are charlatans.
00:32:45.000I don't want to say all of them, and it's not evenly distributed.
00:32:48.000Usually the hard sciences are pretty good, but in the social sciences, in the humanities, it's a farce at this point.
00:32:55.000And whatever credentials or publications they have, you shouldn't be intimidated because you've got common sense on your side.
00:33:02.000And third, I would say, I mean, this is partially a failure of the conservative movement because the job of the institutional right should be to equip state legislators with the strategies, the policies they need to deal serious blows to the universities.
00:33:18.000And the right has been complaining about universities ever since...
00:33:23.000Bill Buckley wrote his first book, God and Man at Yale, I think in 1950.
00:33:28.000And since then, what have we mostly done?
00:33:30.000Lecture series, you said you guys are going to speak.
00:33:33.000That's good, but that doesn't fundamentally alter things.
00:33:43.000And I think the think tanks, the red state think tanks, the conservative think tanks and the national ones need to develop a more aggressive higher ed reform agenda to help these state legislators do the right thing.
00:33:56.000Because, you know, the moment right now is different.
00:35:08.000So to affirm what you're saying, University of Oklahoma, I'm not just picking on them because there's dozens like this.
00:35:14.000They have a whole sociology department, a whole department that the taxpayers of, and by the way, the first thing you see at the sociology department is LGBTQR&E collective practice mini-conference.
00:35:36.000I wonder what percentage of taxpayers in Oklahoma would love to work hard and pay their taxes to have an LGBTQ collective at the University of Oklahoma.
00:35:47.000Again, I'm not trying to just pick on them.
00:35:51.000However, every county voted for Donald Trump in Oklahoma.
00:35:56.000As Jussie Smollett said, that is MAGA country.
00:35:58.000So, Dr. Azrat, again, there was no coordination here whatsoever.
00:36:03.000We can put this up on screen, actually.
00:36:05.000Again, this was completely spontaneous, where at the University of Oklahoma, they have here, please join us to support student researchers conducting LGBTQ-related research at the first annual LGBTQR&E Collective mini-practice conference.
00:36:55.000You know, one way to do it is you've got to humiliate these charlatans.
00:37:01.000I mean, one thing I would do is testimonies, bring them out, find the state legislators who are the most verbally nimble and the sharpest, prep them well, and then make a mockery of these fools.
00:37:13.000I mean, these people are so insulated from reality.
00:37:17.000I mean, Charlie, do you realize how thick their bubbles are?
00:37:21.000In terms of when's the last time they were challenged and questioned?
00:37:25.000The whole academy is surrounded by such fools.
00:37:28.000Their conferences, the journals they read.
00:37:30.000Conservative students, they rarely encounter.
00:37:33.000And if they do, they're afraid to speak in class.
00:37:35.000They don't have colleagues challenging them.
00:38:18.000What you're talking about is using the MAGA movement to go after some of the institutions that are creating the infantry of the radical left, albeit the chief offender is higher education.
00:38:36.000Yeah, because, look, you know the line, right?
00:38:44.000I'm not trying to downplay the importance of that.
00:38:46.000But at the end of the day, all of this can be undone by your successor if he happens to be a Democrat.
00:38:52.000We need to burn some real political capital to fundamentally alter the rules of the game.
00:38:58.000I mean, I think the Republicans should be willing to lose Congress, the House, and the midterms and ram through one or two big transformational bills.
00:39:07.000I mean, think of what Obama did with Obamacare.
00:39:10.000I would probably suggest higher ed reform.
00:39:14.000There might be other contenders we need to think it through.
00:39:17.000But something has to go through Congress.
00:39:20.000And a lot can happen at the state level right now, independently of what's happening in Congress.
00:39:27.000And we should be willing, in this regard, to be like Democrats.
00:39:30.000Burn political capital to ram something through that can't really be undone.