The Charlie Kirk Show - January 21, 2026


The Donald Goes to Davos + Trump 2.0 at One Year


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A year in review with Sean Davis, CEO of the Federalist Party and co-founder of The Federalists, to look back at one year of President Trump s second term in office. President Trump's Davos speech and much more!

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000 It is January 21st, 2026.
00:01:14.000 We are here in the studio in Phoenix.
00:01:16.000 Welcome, Blake.
00:01:17.000 One year.
00:01:17.000 One year.
00:01:18.000 One year anniversary.
00:01:19.000 We're actually going to have Sean Davis, co-founder and CEO of the Federalists, on in the second hour to look back at one year of President Trump's second term in office, 47.
00:01:29.000 These things race by, don't they?
00:01:30.000 Oh, man.
00:01:31.000 And everything that happened with Charlie just felt like it, like part of it fell into a bit of a black hole for us in here.
00:01:37.000 But there's a lot to talk about.
00:01:39.000 A year in review.
00:01:41.000 With Sean, we're actually going to have him review what's going on in Virginia.
00:01:45.000 And his take is that it's worse than anybody has any idea about.
00:01:49.000 It portends ill. 0.73
00:01:51.000 Oh, Virginia's doomed.
00:01:52.000 That's what I'm telling all of my friends who are there.
00:01:54.000 Oh, it's terrible.
00:01:55.000 It's what I warned about.
00:01:56.000 Like, at least with a lot of other blue states, they can break it hard enough that you can leave.
00:02:02.000 But in Virginia, they can just suck up all of the money through the federal government. 0.87
00:02:06.000 They're worse than Somali pirates there in New York. 1.00
00:02:09.000 Oh, farwards. 0.99
00:02:10.000 Farwards.
00:02:10.000 I mean, by magnitudes.
00:02:11.000 And so, but the big news of the morning, of course, is President Trump gave his big speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, and made huge news.
00:02:23.000 So let's just start with the clip and then we're going to unpack this.
00:02:26.000 So President Trump made it very clear there's been this back and forth.
00:02:30.000 We want Greenland.
00:02:31.000 We'll buy it.
00:02:32.000 Actually, we're going to use force.
00:02:33.000 If you don't play ball.
00:02:35.000 A rough wooing.
00:02:36.000 And Blake was squirming the whole time, very uncomfortable with this.
00:02:41.000 Then at Davos, he made it clear we will not use force, but we still really want it.
00:02:47.000 327.
00:02:49.000 We never asked for anything and we never got anything.
00:02:54.000 We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force where we would be, frankly, unstoppable.
00:03:02.000 But I won't do that.
00:03:06.000 Okay, now everyone's saying, oh, good.
00:03:09.000 That's probably the biggest statement I made because people thought I would use force.
00:03:13.000 But I don't have to use force.
00:03:15.000 I don't want to use force.
00:03:16.000 I won't use force.
00:03:18.000 All the United States is asking for is a place called Greenland.
00:03:23.000 All we're asking for is a place called Greenland.
00:03:25.000 All we're asking for.
00:03:26.000 Just 560,000 square miles.
00:03:29.000 No, listen, there's a guy named Josh Wolf on X. He's a partner at Lux Capital, founding chair, SciPrep.
00:03:41.000 Anyways, smart guy, got a lot of followers.
00:03:44.000 This article is getting a lot of traction.
00:03:47.000 And what he's doing is he's breaking down a classic Trump negotiation tactic.
00:03:51.000 That's why it's getting a lot of traction.
00:03:53.000 So I want to give attribution where it's due to this gentleman.
00:03:57.000 Again, his name is Josh Wolf.
00:03:59.000 And he says, you know, he's kind of observing that the press thinks it's a spectacle.
00:04:04.000 Europeans say it's a breaking with international norms and a rule-based order.
00:04:08.000 He calls that all a mirage, by the way, which I tend to agree.
00:04:12.000 There is a part of this where Trump is actually doing the math correctly, that NATO doesn't work without America.
00:04:18.000 That doesn't mean we want to mistreat our allies.
00:04:21.000 Trump is a saber-rattler.
00:04:22.000 He's a negotiator.
00:04:24.000 And I think he sees through a bunch of the rule-based order, which is really they get their way, America pays for it.
00:04:32.000 And I think people are sick of it.
00:04:33.000 And so what he says is this: quote, what is actually underway, it's not all the noise.
00:04:38.000 Listen to this, is supply chain annexation dressed in the costume of territorial ambition.
00:04:45.000 The target is not an island, it is two geological formations in southern Greenland.
00:04:51.000 And I'm going to pronounce these terribly, but Kevésefeld and Tanbreeze that contain the heavy rare-earth elements without which no advanced weapon system can be built.
00:05:01.000 Dysprosium, Teribium, names that mean nothing to the public, but everything to the Pentagon.
00:05:07.000 These elements are irreplaceable in the actuators of F-35 fighters, the guidance fins of precision munitions, the sonar arrays of Virginia-class submarines, and the permanent magnets of every electric vehicle motor.
00:05:20.000 China controls over 90% of global processing.
00:05:24.000 The United States controls almost none.
00:05:26.000 The quote-unquote purchase of Greenland is not a land deal.
00:05:29.000 It's an attempt to break a chokehold.
00:05:32.000 That's one of the very key elements.
00:05:34.000 There's also the fact that Trump is now signaling to Canada that this is about building the Golden Dome.
00:05:41.000 And he's warning Kearney up in Canada, the great white north neighbor, saying, you know, why don't you watch your mouth when you're talking about these things and flirting with the CCP, Mr. Carney?
00:05:55.000 312.
00:05:56.000 Canada gets a lot of freebies from us, by the way.
00:05:59.000 They should be grateful also.
00:06:00.000 But they're not.
00:06:01.000 I watched your prime minister yesterday.
00:06:04.000 He wasn't so grateful.
00:06:06.000 They should be grateful to us.
00:06:07.000 Canada.
00:06:09.000 Canada lives because of the United States. 0.75
00:06:11.000 Remember that, Mark, the next time you make your statements?
00:06:15.000 A direct shot across the bow to it does.
00:06:20.000 It shows why this is a double-sided thing, I believe, because he's being very forceful.
00:06:28.000 He's being very assertive about America.
00:06:30.000 And I know that guy you were just reading and others like.
00:06:33.000 Josh Wolf.
00:06:34.000 Yeah, Josh Wolf.
00:06:34.000 They're very skeptical of that international order.
00:06:37.000 They say it's fake and all of that.
00:06:39.000 But a lot of it was, if it is fake, it was fakeness that did benefit the United States in a lot of ways, I think.
00:06:45.000 It was the presumption that nations would look to the United States, that they would orbit around us.
00:06:51.000 And we had to subsidize them a lot.
00:06:53.000 A lot.
00:06:53.000 But I think President Trump had a lot of success in basically saying, you guys are free riding too much.
00:07:00.000 You need to pony up more.
00:07:01.000 In fact, Denmark is a good example of that.
00:07:03.000 Denmark, I was checking this.
00:07:04.000 In 2015, Denmark was paying, I think, 1% of their GDP towards defense.
00:07:09.000 They were totally not Not spending money to defend things.
00:07:13.000 And during President Trump's first term, he says to Europe, NATO's an alliance.
00:07:17.000 It's not just us.
00:07:18.000 You guys have to point out.
00:07:19.000 And they tripled the amount they were spending on defense.
00:07:21.000 We have had some success getting these guys to spend more.
00:07:25.000 I think there's two points.
00:07:28.000 I think Josh Wolf makes some good points with the rare earth, the heavy rare earth minerals that China largely controls around the world, and that Greenland has apparently a lot of.
00:07:38.000 There's that point.
00:07:39.000 There's also the point that Trump wants to build the Golden Dome, which will protect Canada as well.
00:07:44.000 And if you look at a map that is, you know, I think we, yeah, this map, 331, if you see this map, if the U.S. acquires Greenland, if you, you know, because oftentimes we see those maps that are laid out sort of long ways as opposed to the globe where it's properly positioned, you see how far north of the lower 48 and how well positioned it is to defend against attacks that might come over the Arctic from Russia, from China,
00:08:14.000 where there are ICBM stations that could reach the U.S., that could reach Canada.
00:08:19.000 That position is very strategic in building a global dome.
00:08:23.000 And it was interesting in the speech, President Trump made this point.
00:08:26.000 He said, it's not just, you know, you got to understand it's a psychological difference.
00:08:31.000 Nobody wants to invest hundreds of billions of dollars in something that they're leasing that could go back to an original owner.
00:08:39.000 You know, so that part actually makes a lot of sense.
00:08:41.000 But if the U.S. controls those two fronts, Alaska and Greenland, the ability to defend the lower 48 becomes extraordinarily robust, especially from ICBM attacks coming over the Arctic.
00:08:55.000 So listen, there's a lot of stuff that makes sense here.
00:08:57.000 And it was interesting to me because you have been raising the alarm, Blake.
00:09:02.000 I think in a lot of ways, you're worried that we're alienating our most tried and true partners in Europe, which you acknowledge have a lot of problems.
00:09:10.000 I get that.
00:09:10.000 I'm not saying you're giving them a free ride here.
00:09:12.000 But it was interesting that your take was that his you actually appreciated the tone this morning.
00:09:19.000 Explain why you thought it was more medicine.
00:09:21.000 So as I said, I think the biggest risk here, as I've explained, is that they look at what the President Trump is doing.
00:09:27.000 And it's not just, oh, he's being assertive like he is before.
00:09:30.000 It's the sense, is he being unreliable?
00:09:33.000 Because, for example, with NATO, you can say, NATO, you need to spend more on your defense.
00:09:38.000 But if you're straight up saying, we are going to take territory from you abruptly, make this new demand, and if not, any number of things can happen.
00:09:47.000 At that point, you're basically saying this isn't a military alliance anymore.
00:09:51.000 This is a thing.
00:09:53.000 We can extort territory from you.
00:09:55.000 So I like him saying, okay, we're not going to attack you.
00:09:58.000 We're going to operate through the normal means.
00:10:01.000 We don't want, there's always that risk that President Trump will kind of drive your partners away so much they say, we're going to make partnerships with other people, if only because we just don't like you anymore.
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00:11:22.000 We have a very interesting video from Are you going to play the actor one or two?
00:11:27.000 No, no.
00:11:28.000 Well, if we feel like it, but we probably shouldn't spend a whole minute on a fake video.
00:11:32.000 So we have Mark Root or Ruta or however he says, Ruta.
00:11:37.000 And he is a senior official with NATO.
00:11:40.000 Yep.
00:11:40.000 And he's at Davos.
00:11:42.000 And he's kind of, I sympathize with him because you know he's clearly must be having a hard time.
00:11:47.000 He's a NATO realist.
00:11:48.000 He's a NATO realist.
00:11:50.000 But he did say something, which a lot of people are not happy about.
00:11:52.000 And he basically said, Donald Trump is right that Greenland is strategically important.
00:11:58.000 And I think he's got to make the case.
00:12:00.000 If you're not going to give it to him, you have to really up the defenses for it in a way that makes the security argument less credible.
00:12:06.000 Let's play clip 332.
00:12:09.000 We need to defend the Arctic.
00:12:10.000 We know that the sea lanes are opening up.
00:12:12.000 We know that China and Russia are increasingly active in the Arctic.
00:12:17.000 There are eight countries bordering on the Arctic.
00:12:20.000 Seven are a member of NATO.
00:12:21.000 That's Finland and Sweden and Norway and Denmark, Iceland, Canada, and the US.
00:12:26.000 And there's only one country bordering on the Arctic outside NATO, and that's Russia.
00:12:30.000 And I would argue there is a ninth country, which is China, which is increasingly active in the Arctic region.
00:12:36.000 So President Trump and other leaders are right.
00:12:38.000 We have to do more there.
00:12:39.000 We have to protect the Arctic against Russian and Chinese influence. 1.00
00:12:44.000 I've had this thought.
00:12:45.000 I feel like it's so frustrating.
00:12:47.000 The Europeans, they have to act a certain way because they just don't like Trump a lot.
00:12:52.000 And so, for example, this drama we had where they sent their troops up.
00:12:56.000 Did you follow this?
00:12:57.000 Yes. 0.80
00:12:57.000 It was so silly that the UK armor. 0.80
00:12:59.000 It was like they sent like five.
00:13:01.000 The best one was Germany, which sent 13 soldiers, but they didn't want to aggravate us by making it too military.
00:13:07.000 So what they did is they took a big military plane and they landed it in Denmark.
00:13:12.000 And then they put the troops onto a commercial flight and they flew them to Denmark on the commercial plane.
00:13:17.000 And they stayed there for two days.
00:13:18.000 They canceled a planned sightseeing trip because it was too cold.
00:13:23.000 And then they got on a commercial flight and they flew home.
00:13:26.000 And they did all this as an obvious gesture.
00:13:28.000 Oh, we're standing with Denmark against America. 0.69
00:13:31.000 I feel like they would create it.
00:13:34.000 President Trump loves wins.
00:13:35.000 If they really don't want to give away Denmark, what they should have just, or Greenland, they should have just said, President Trump is right.
00:13:41.000 Here, we're calling a meeting.
00:13:43.000 Here's the $5 billion, $10 billion, some big amount of money and like deployment of troops who are ready to do in the Arctic.
00:13:51.000 And we're going to pay for it.
00:13:52.000 We'll pay for America to expand their bases in the Arctic. 0.70
00:13:55.000 We'll pay for this golden dome base he wants to build.
00:13:58.000 There you go.
00:13:59.000 And then President Trump, he loves to tout wins.
00:14:01.000 He comes back.
00:14:02.000 He's like, I made this great deal.
00:14:03.000 We're expanding our bases in the Arctic.
00:14:06.000 And they're paying for all the...
00:14:07.000 We've seen how he does this.
00:14:08.000 President Trump loves making deals on things.
00:14:10.000 And it's so frustrating that they're not reacting that way.
00:14:14.000 And instead, we get both sides digging in their heels and we might get a renewed trade war out of this, potentially.
00:14:20.000 Yeah, I think today was a step back from that.
00:14:22.000 But, you know, what probably would make sense on your line of reasoning is you do it in sort of like a Guantanamo Bay-Cuba scenario where you, you know, if Charlie, or if this is what Charlie would say, at least I'm suspecting because Charlie went to Greenland, you know, this is going in the back of my head.
00:14:39.000 Charlie experienced firsthand all the love that the folks of Nuke had for President Trump.
00:14:44.000 I think Greenlanders want their independence.
00:14:47.000 They want to be able to vote on a referendum.
00:14:49.000 But the point is, you could give or sell portions of Greenland to the United States, almost in a Guantanamo Bay fashion, where we actually do own the land.
00:15:00.000 It can't be taken back.
00:15:02.000 And, you know, Denmark could retain ownership of the rest.
00:15:05.000 I don't think Trump would be happy with that because we do want to mine it.
00:15:08.000 We do want to take these rarer minerals out of it.
00:15:11.000 But in defense of a strong U.S. imperial economic military force, I just have to say I love it because Trump is calling BS on a lot of this stuff where Europe is weak.
00:15:26.000 They haven't grown.
00:15:28.000 You've got Germany that's de-industrialized itself over the last few years.
00:15:33.000 Energy prices are soaring.
00:15:34.000 They produce less energy than they did.
00:15:36.000 I think energy prices are up like 75% in Germany, and they produce 20% less than they did in 2017.
00:15:42.000 Huge, huge strategic mistake.
00:15:44.000 Meanwhile, President Trump's bringing in $17, $18 trillion of direct investment, foreign direct investment, businesses investing in the country.
00:15:51.000 We've got nuclear plants, the brand new ones that are a lot safer, a lot more efficient, smaller, building those all over the country, building new plants, building new factories.
00:16:01.000 GDPs could very well be over 5%.
00:16:04.000 We have a lot going for us, and we are investing a lot in our military.
00:16:08.000 All right, listen, I'd love to cut the debt.
00:16:10.000 I'd love to decrease spending.
00:16:13.000 Let's put those to the side.
00:16:14.000 Those are problems.
00:16:15.000 But there's a lot going for America that is not going for Europe, and Europe knows it.
00:16:19.000 America is strong.
00:16:20.000 It's aggressive.
00:16:21.000 It's robust.
00:16:22.000 It's muscular, especially under President Trump.
00:16:24.000 Europe is in malaise.
00:16:25.000 Europe is stagnant growth.
00:16:27.000 Europe has a migration problem that is not going away anytime soon.
00:16:31.000 They lack political will.
00:16:32.000 They're fighting a rise of right-wing populism and nationalism in their own countries, and they're distracted.
00:16:38.000 And they have a fertility problem.
00:16:39.000 So you've got all of these things.
00:16:42.000 And candidly, Europe knows that they can't fight America on this.
00:16:45.000 They can't even out-negotiate America on this.
00:16:47.000 Trump is right to call their bluff and say you would be nothing without us.
00:16:51.000 As a matter of fact, I think we have a clip that says just that, that NATO would be nothing.
00:16:56.000 And we asked for nothing.
00:16:57.000 He kind of mentioned that before.
00:16:59.000 But this is the truth of the situation.
00:17:02.000 I love that President Trump is calling it.
00:17:06.000 Here's another clip that I think is really important here, actually.
00:17:09.000 It sort of plays into it.
00:17:11.000 329.
00:17:12.000 Recent decades, it became conventional wisdom in Washington and European capitals that the only way to grow a modern Western economy was through ever-increasing government spending, unchecked mass migration, and endless foreign imports.
00:17:29.000 So why that plays in is that Trump has reversed the trend on those pieces.
00:17:34.000 We have reversed migration.
00:17:36.000 Europe has not in their weakness.
00:17:38.000 But you have to be careful.
00:17:39.000 For example, he says we've never asked for anything, but the Danes certainly remember they did send troops to Afghanistan.
00:17:45.000 43 of them died there.
00:17:47.000 That's a lot for a country of 5 million people.
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00:19:10.000 So, I believe we are still working on getting Jack Posobiec here, but I wanted to kind of, I think I'm going to set this up here with for Jack here.
00:19:19.000 There's these two clips that just need to be juxtaposed side by side.
00:19:23.000 So, you've got this Finland president, Alexander Stubb, says Europe can defend itself unequivocally without the Americans.
00:19:30.000 316.
00:19:32.000 First is a direct answer to the question of this panel: can Europe defend itself?
00:19:36.000 My answer is unequivocally yes.
00:19:38.000 Without the Americans, without the Americans. 1.00
00:19:40.000 I mean, how?
00:19:42.000 Look.
00:19:43.000 But you're relying on them for these key elements.
00:19:45.000 How would you do it at scale and at duration and at intensity?
00:19:48.000 With an assumption that the United States would cut off completely any kind of work.
00:19:53.000 Well, if we look at the defense composure of Europe by and large in a country like Finland, the bottom line is that if you ask me the question, can the Finnish military defend itself against a Russian attack, the whole defense posture of the way in which you do it?
00:20:08.000 Yes, we can.
00:20:10.000 Then he gets asked about it later, and he says, oh, I love journalists.
00:20:14.000 That's not what I said.
00:20:14.000 335.
00:20:16.000 You've said earlier that Europe can defend itself without the Americans. 0.93
00:20:22.000 If it comes down to...
00:20:24.000 Not exact.
00:20:25.000 That's not a quote.
00:20:28.000 More or less.
00:20:29.000 More or less.
00:20:30.000 Let's go back to the transcript.
00:20:33.000 More or less.
00:20:34.000 More or less.
00:20:35.000 I love journalists.
00:20:37.000 See, I love this juxtaposition because it's a total tell.
00:20:41.000 They saber-rattle. 0.99
00:20:43.000 They play big.
00:20:44.000 They peacock.
00:20:44.000 They puff up their chest.
00:20:45.000 They say, oh, we don't need Trump.
00:20:47.000 We don't need the Americans. 1.00
00:20:49.000 They don't really mean that.
00:20:50.000 They don't really mean it because it's not true at all.
00:20:52.000 It's not true.
00:20:53.000 Though, I would say it's better for us, if we're interacting with them, we much more want them to start paying up, but still be basically reliant on us versus if they decide America's getting a little wacky.
00:21:06.000 They're taking land off of us.
00:21:08.000 We need to toughen up and also make a new alliance that's not with them or worse yet, with someone else.
00:21:14.000 Well, and that's the whole China threat that they're putting out there. 0.80
00:21:16.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:21:19.000 I want to hear what you think.
00:21:21.000 Is Trump playing too rough with the Europeans?
00:21:23.000 Not rough enough?
00:21:25.000 Do you think that they are bluffing in these entreaties, this flirtation with China?
00:21:29.000 I want to hear your thoughts.
00:21:30.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:21:32.000 Blake will be reading those in the next segment.
00:21:33.000 Oh, yeah.
00:21:34.000 So freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:21:36.000 Want to hear what your thoughts are on Trump's tone, his presentation at Davos this morning.
00:21:41.000 But why those two clips I think are really interesting, Blake, is listen to, now, okay, I'm going to grain assault this one.
00:21:47.000 This comes from RT, which is state-run media with Putin.
00:21:50.000 So you got to trust the translation here.
00:21:53.000 But we'll play it.
00:21:55.000 We'll give you the translation.
00:21:57.000 But I think that Putin, when you think about it in terms of this Finnish president, makes a lot of sense here.
00:22:11.000 3.38.
00:22:21.000 What he says there is you'll see it will happen quickly soon.
00:22:24.000 They being the Europeans, the leaders, will all stand at the feet of the master, America, and will gently wag their tails. 0.82
00:22:33.000 Everything will fall into place.
00:22:34.000 You'll see.
00:22:35.000 So he's basically observing that they're playing tough now.
00:22:38.000 They're signaling strength in all of this because they don't like Trump.
00:22:42.000 They feel like they're getting bullied.
00:22:44.000 But Putin says they'll all fall in line.
00:22:47.000 Joining us now is Jack Pesobic.
00:22:49.000 He's live from Davos, Switzerland.
00:22:52.000 He's been providing some behind-the-scenes clips that have been really fascinating to watch.
00:22:55.000 Jack, we're talking about this dynamic between European elites, the leadership, and President Trump.
00:23:01.000 Obviously, there's tension, there's tension about Greenland, there's tension about NATO, NATO funding, there's flirtations with China.
00:23:07.000 Tell us what you're feeling and seeing in the room, this dynamic between Atlantic allies.
00:23:15.000 Yeah, Andrew, guys, that's exactly right.
00:23:17.000 And, you know, we're here, we're in the room.
00:23:18.000 I remember four years ago, my very first Davos calling into the Charlie Kirk show right after getting detained by the World Economic Forum police.
00:23:27.000 So, you know, here we are four years later.
00:23:28.000 We're inside the building.
00:23:31.000 They're in the room with President Trump.
00:23:32.000 And he and the U.S. team, they're still kind of going around here.
00:23:35.000 So he's holding those sideline meetings as we speak.
00:23:38.000 There's going to be a reception a little bit later.
00:23:40.000 But you're right.
00:23:41.000 There really is this sort of tension. 0.99
00:23:43.000 There's this sort of, you know, I would say even kind of a cynicism of some of the European leaders saying that, oh, Trump, he's so ridiculous. 0.98
00:23:52.000 This will never work. 0.99
00:23:52.000 This will never happen. 0.99
00:23:53.000 We can, you know, we can be rude to him.
00:23:55.000 But at the same time, you've come to understand that, and certainly in the room we saw this, there were a lot of people laughing at his jokes.
00:24:01.000 They were sort of rolling with the punches, rolling with the laughter.
00:24:04.000 And I think that this time around, given that he's been on the world stage for so many years, they've started to take that old Scott Adams phrase where they take him seriously, but they don't take him literally.
00:24:18.000 And what that means is that they're serious about his intentions, but they understand that a lot of what he's doing, he's going into his salesman pitch.
00:24:25.000 He's going into his arc.
00:24:26.000 He's saying things for effect over and over again.
00:24:29.000 And it seemed that at least in the room, a lot of people got that.
00:24:32.000 Yeah, it's very nicely mentioned that, Jack.
00:24:35.000 No joke, I was reading the other day, the members of the Norwegian Nobel Prize Committee, and one of them is this foreign policy blogger.
00:24:41.000 And he actually had a thing he wrote on the Greenland drama.
00:24:45.000 And he basically said, Trump is always in negotiation mode.
00:24:50.000 And that means he's always trying to keep people off balance.
00:24:53.000 He'll shock them by being really aggressive with what he says.
00:24:58.000 He'll consider any offer.
00:25:00.000 He's always ready to make a deal.
00:25:01.000 And it's just so disorienting compared to how a normal person is.
00:25:05.000 It shocks them.
00:25:06.000 And it kind of relies a bit on the old Nixon idea, the madman theory.
00:25:10.000 Part of his negotiation position is to basically be like, I'm super serious.
00:25:14.000 I'm ready to invade.
00:25:16.000 I've thrown out the brakes on my car.
00:25:18.000 I've thrown out the steering wheel.
00:25:19.000 Nothing can stop me.
00:25:21.000 And then, oh, he actually can just stop and make the deal very abruptly.
00:25:25.000 I completely agree.
00:25:26.000 This is what, again, this, we talked about this guy, Josh Wolf, Jack, who kind of, you know, he said this is classic Trump negotiation sequence.
00:25:36.000 It goes like this.
00:25:37.000 Signal acquisition, Denmark scoffs.
00:25:39.000 Mention force.
00:25:40.000 Denmark recoils.
00:25:41.000 Insist on force.
00:25:42.000 Loudly, repeatedly.
00:25:43.000 Denmark reaches peak indignation.
00:25:45.000 Others come to their side.
00:25:46.000 Then pivot.
00:25:47.000 A purchase offer that eliminates Denmark's entire national debt, $142 billion, and nearly doubles Greenland's GDP, $450 billion.
00:25:54.000 And suddenly the question is no longer, how dare you, but wait, how much?
00:25:59.000 What do you think, Jack?
00:26:01.000 I think that's exactly the path that I'm trying to see this.
00:26:04.000 And if anyone wants to know what this is called, it's literally called the art of the deal.
00:26:08.000 President Trump wrote a book about this about 40 years ago where he outlines that specific policy In great detail.
00:26:14.000 He says it's what he does every single time he's in a high-stakes negotiation.
00:26:18.000 I think it's really interesting that so many people either haven't actually read that book, haven't seen him do it a million times already, and that they still seem to fall for the same exact trick.
00:26:29.000 Now, one of the things that I did think was interesting, you know, coming at it from a military perspective as well, that he did talk about the need for Greenland, not just we've heard from the Arctic shipping routes, we've also heard it from the national security in terms of those sea lanes, but he also talked about ballistic missile defense and really talked about the Golden Dome, those intercontinental ballistic missiles, whether they're fired off from China, Russia, North Korea, even if Iran, if they were able to develop those long-range ballistic missiles, they would be flying them over the top,
00:26:57.000 targeting Washington, D.C., and they would inevitably fall within the territory of Greenland, making Greenland a key position, key point for the United States in any type of missile defense.
00:27:08.000 And I haven't really seen him use that phrasing and use that phraseology, put it all together on the world stage.
00:27:15.000 He kind of presaged it in an interview yesterday, but today was the really big one.
00:27:19.000 And I think that for anyone who's looking at it seriously, he makes some very solid military points there.
00:27:25.000 Yeah, no, I agree.
00:27:25.000 I think the ICBM argument is pretty strong.
00:27:29.000 And I loved him name-checking Carney, telling him to know his role, know his place.
00:27:34.000 I think that's important, actually.
00:27:37.000 There's another dynamic that's a little bit more on the domestic home front here, Jack.
00:27:40.000 You got Gavin Newsom wandering around.
00:27:42.000 He's calling Scott Besson smug.
00:27:44.000 Scott Besson had the line of the day, I think, hitting him back.
00:27:48.000 314.
00:27:49.000 I think it's very, very ironic that Governor Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman, meets Sparkle Beach Ken, may be the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris.
00:28:06.000 He's here this week with his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros.
00:28:12.000 I've seen you behind the scenes.
00:28:13.000 You've gotten iPhone video of Gavin Newsom.
00:28:17.000 What the heck is going on with this?
00:28:18.000 What does he think he's going to accomplish?
00:28:19.000 Is this just all about 2028 for him?
00:28:22.000 I think it is.
00:28:22.000 He's bird-dogging.
00:28:23.000 He's trying to get his name out there.
00:28:25.000 He wants people to put him in the same conversation as Trump.
00:28:28.000 He's trying to put himself on the same level as Mark Carney.
00:28:31.000 Trudokia is here as well.
00:28:33.000 Actually, Alex Soros just walked by a couple of minutes ago.
00:28:35.000 I saw him just kind of darting out the way before he could see me.
00:28:39.000 And funny enough, I actually went up to that interview where he was coming out here doing a gaggle.
00:28:45.000 I walked up, his press guy was trying to say, oh, no, Jack, no, not him, not Psovic.
00:28:49.000 I said, Alex, you know, guys, it'll be fine.
00:28:51.000 Let me in.
00:28:53.000 And I asked him a question.
00:28:54.000 Do you have any comment regarding Don Lemon and the agitators at the Minneapolis church up there when they were barging in?
00:29:02.000 He said he hadn't heard about it.
00:29:04.000 I explained the situation.
00:29:05.000 Once again, he said he hadn't heard about it.
00:29:07.000 So we'll see what kind of situation that is.
00:29:10.000 But I did very quickly, he caught my name and I saw his press guy sort of saying, oh, that's Jack Pesovic.
00:29:16.000 And I mentioned to him, I said, hey, hey, Governor Newsom, I was friends with Charlie.
00:29:20.000 And Gavin, you know, he kind of touched his heart for a second there.
00:29:23.000 And he said, wow, wow.
00:29:26.000 And, you know, I think that was a really, you know, real humanizing moment.
00:29:29.000 And I remember Charlie and he had had that incredible interview that they had done together.
00:29:33.000 So I thought maybe a little way to break the ice a little bit.
00:29:35.000 Jack Pesobic, God bless you, man.
00:29:37.000 Stay safe.
00:29:38.000 Keep getting those questions in with the world leaders.
00:29:42.000 We appreciate it, man.
00:29:43.000 Talk to you soon.
00:29:44.000 We'll do it.
00:29:44.000 Thanks, guys.
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