00:00:06.000And that is the story of Amber Heard and Johnny Depp.
00:00:10.000We are watching Me Too unravel in front of our very eyes.
00:00:13.000We also talked a little bit about inflation.
00:00:15.000And this episode kind of ends rather abruptly, just because we're at our Turning Point USA Young Women's Leadership Summit.
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00:01:29.000We are here in Dallas, Texas for our Young Women's Leadership Summit.
00:01:36.000We're going to have over 2,500 young conservative women from across America just in a couple hours at our Young Women's Leadership Summit.
00:01:47.000And so we're going to start off today with a story that, you know, typically we wouldn't be covering stories like this.
00:01:54.000This is more of kind of a, some people would call it a celebrity-focused story.
00:01:59.000And it's something that, quite honestly, I had no interest in talking about whatsoever.
00:02:04.000And, but it seems as if there's actually some broader cultural implications that are going on here that I think we need to talk about and that we need to zero in on.
00:02:14.000And so the trial of Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard.
00:02:40.000She just comes across as a crazy person, which she is.
00:02:43.000And so Johnny Depp and her were married.
00:02:47.000And again, there's some broader cultural stories here, implications and kind of political impacts behind the story, which is why we're talking about it.
00:03:12.000I didn't really understand the whole part of that.
00:03:14.000And so they go to trial, and then all these people are like, yeah, she pooped in his bed.
00:03:18.000I'm like, why is this nationwide news?
00:03:20.000It sounds like two crazy people suing each other.
00:03:23.000But actually, it's really interesting when you look into it.
00:03:25.000So you go a level deeper, and yesterday was the verdict.
00:03:28.000So basically, Johnny Depp was suing to defend himself.
00:03:32.000And this, you might not think this story applies to you, but it absolutely applies to you.
00:03:38.000It applies to you in the sense of if you've ever been wrongly accused of anything, if you have a son or a grandson in your life and the world that you're putting them into, that this sort of a cultural battle is incredibly important because it sends a signal to future people that very well might be falsely accused.
00:03:56.000So Johnny Depp was accused by Amber Heard for beating her.
00:04:02.000And she said, he beat me, he broke my nose.
00:04:05.000And immediately, Amber Heard, the crazy person, was believed.
00:04:10.000And there was a massive kind of cost that came from this, where almost immediately Johnny Depp was canceled by every major institution imaginable, including Disney, by the way.
00:04:22.000So Disney canceled Johnny Depp from Pirates of the Caribbean.
00:04:26.000And so Johnny Depp was kind of in career limbo.
00:04:29.000People were treating Johnny Depp like how Kevin Spacey was treated after all these accusations.
00:04:37.000And so he said, I'm going to have to fight back.
00:04:38.000I'm going to have to legally push back against it.
00:04:41.000And so some people say, oh, Johnny Depp was too big to cancel.
00:04:44.000I have nothing to do actually with how big Johnny Depp was.
00:04:46.000I mean, they canceled Harvey Weinstein because he was a scumbag and he is a scumbag.
00:04:51.000They canceled Bill Cosby because not exactly a good guy at all.
00:04:56.000They tried to cancel Johnny Depp, but the only reason why Johnny Depp is now victorious is not because of how popular Johnny Depp is or how popular Johnny Depp, or how big of a following he has, it's because Johnny Depp fought back.
00:05:08.000It's because Johnny Depp decided to put a line in the sand and say, you know what, I didn't beat you.
00:05:13.000You are certifiable, and I'm going to tell the entire world that.
00:05:18.000So this person, Amber Heard, again, I know very little about her except the fact that anyone who would try to destroy somebody's life based on fake accusations that are so patently fake and false really deserves to be called out for this.
00:05:34.000And so Amber Heard was found liable for defaming Johnny Depp, and she pushed back against all these accusations in the last couple of days.
00:05:46.000And so this is really kind of the last gasp of the Me Too movement.
00:05:50.000The Me Too movement came onto the scene four or five years ago, which was basically trying to restructure societal norms and to try to destroy the patriarchy, kind of the alleged complaint that somehow women are being so incredibly oppressed by their male bosses and men are nothing but savage animals.
00:06:13.000And, you know, if believe all women, regardless of the circumstances.
00:06:17.000Now, of course, the believe all women thing didn't apply to Joe Biden and all of his accusations against him didn't apply to prominent Democrats, but it did take out a couple, Al Franken and many others.
00:06:28.000They tried this with Brett Kavanaugh, Brett Kavanaugh fought back, and Brett Kavanaugh won.
00:06:33.000So Johnny Depp decided to sue Amber Heard and Amber Heard fought back in this trial, of which I wasn't really following the details.
00:06:41.000But the long and short of it is this, is that not only did Johnny Depp fight back against the accusations, he fought back against all these corporations that were so quick to go take the psycho woman's side without ever actually finding whether or not finding out she was telling the truth.
00:06:58.000Like, was she actually telling the truth?
00:07:00.000And in fact, not only was she not telling the truth, she was complete and total fabricating the entire situation.
00:07:07.000So Me Too started with some legitimate complaints, Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, and it transitioned into the demands of the hordes of social justice warrior angry women that believe they could destroy the lives of men, and they do not care about the repercussions and they do not care about the consequences.
00:07:25.000Now, just understand, the standard to be able to prove defamation in an American court is an unbelievably high standard.
00:07:35.000In order to prove defamation, you have to be able to prove intent, not the result in an American court.
00:07:42.000So to be able to convince a jury that you were defamed against and that someone intentionally had the intent to make things up against you is a very, very high standard.
00:07:54.000And Johnny Depp came with all the receipts and all the evidence from voice memo recordings to text messages to third-party witnesses.
00:08:04.000And now, just some interesting backstory.
00:08:06.000Amber Heard was also dating Elon Musk for quite some time.
00:08:10.000I'm just curious to see who is going to date Amber Heard next.
00:08:39.000And for all of you listening right now that feel as if this is just kind of two feuding celebrities, you know, I believe that for a couple of weeks.
00:08:45.000It's not that I have any interest in these two people.
00:08:48.000Obviously, they think really highly of themselves.
00:08:49.000Anyone in Connie Hollywood celebrity culture, with a few exceptions, are complete and total narcissists.
00:08:54.000Instead, it's a massive blow to the Me Too movement, the guilty until proven innocent crowd.
00:09:00.000The kind of pattern of the weight of the accusation is somehow how we must configure your guilt or your innocence.
00:09:14.000If we look at what's happening in our country, they want to be able to destroy people by a simple accusation.
00:09:21.000Thankfully, in our country, we've had a tradition of due process, of checks and balances, of an independent judiciary, that you need to have a far more robust track record of evidence than just saying Johnny Depp is a bad person.
00:09:36.000I hope this is a message for every single person out there that might be thinking to potentially engage in a defamatory pattern of action against an innocent person.
00:09:45.000Just because you don't like somebody doesn't mean you could lie, smear, and destroy their entire character of life.
00:09:51.000And thank goodness that the justice system allowed this to play out, where Amber Heard has now been found liable.
00:10:00.000And she now has to pay a huge verdict.
00:10:03.000This is a deathblow to the Me Too movement, which was an attempt to destroy due process and the presumption of innocence.
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00:11:26.000Well, it comes from a man by the name of William Blackstone.
00:11:29.000Now, William Blackstone kind of is the author of the common law.
00:11:35.000William Blackstone is studied in any respectable law school or in legal circles.
00:11:42.000He was heavily inspired by, of course, the Bible, and he was influenced by Montesquieu.
00:11:47.000Montesquieu actually was a contemporary of his.
00:11:51.000Montesquieu is a French judge that wrote a book called The Spirit of the Laws.
00:11:56.000And he was also kind of, some would say, a commonly quoted person in the French Revolution.
00:12:01.000Montesquieu and Rousseau were in some ways contemporaries.
00:12:06.000And so what we have here is that William Blackstone believed that it is better for 10 guilty people to walk free than for one innocent person to suffer or to go to jail.
00:12:19.000And so basically the standard was set that in order to take somebody of their life, liberty, or their property, in order to put somebody in jail or put them into prison, that the standard has to be with beyond a reasonable doubt, and that you start from a baseline of you are assumed to be innocent.
00:12:42.000Now, that's an interesting thing because in the West, we also have this belief in original sin that does stem from the Bible.
00:13:19.000Well, in a statist model, in a country that has a heavy emphasis on government control and on central planning, it would make a lot of sense where if the government accuses you of something, how could the government ever be wrong?
00:13:33.000But built into the tradition of Western law is that if you are accused of something, if you are said to be, you know, as Johnny Depp was, he slammed around the face or whatever terrible thing he was accused of.
00:13:48.000The entire system, the structure of the United States Constitution ensures, in fact, it demands that the state, in order to deprive you of life, liberty, and property, they have to reach the standard that you start from the baseline of the presumption that you are presumed innocent, and then you have to be able to prove the guilt.
00:14:09.000And so, since we don't generally trust centralized government, and we believe that power can be abused, and we believe in the saying of Lord Acton that absolute power corrupts absolutely, that is all built into the Western legal tradition.
00:14:23.000And one of the kind of goals you could say of the Me Too movement was an attempt to try and disassemble and obliterate the Western legal tradition.
00:14:35.000Now, they were trying to do this extra-legally, meaning they weren't necessarily doing it through the judicial system itself.
00:14:41.000They were trying to create almost a new court.
00:14:44.000And what the Me Too movement did is they created a new court, which was the court of the mob, the court of Hollywood, the court of media, which is, okay, Johnny Depp wasn't going to go to prison, but we're going to destroy his life altogether based on a singular accusation.
00:14:57.000It's the Chinese model of legal theory, not the Western model.
00:15:02.000What's so interesting is how quick the media and activists were to just basically cast aside the many-century tradition that has proven to keep people free and keep government checked and keep power in check by having this process where if you are going to destroy somebody's life, like Johnny Depp, you have to prove it without a reasonable doubt.
00:15:25.000And none of that was followed when it came to this.
00:15:27.000It wasn't followed with Brett Kavanaugh, it wasn't followed with any of these people that are falsely accused.
00:15:33.000But this all of a sudden is a repudiation of that trajectory.
00:15:37.000It is a rejection of what we have been seeing over the last couple of years where people are deprived of their career, of their connections.
00:15:48.000They're deprived of their wealth, all because of a singular accusation.
00:15:53.000But if you believe in limited government and checks and balances, then you necessarily must believe in the presumption of innocence.
00:16:00.000Innocent until proven guilty, a people cannot remain free if you do not have that tradition.
00:16:09.000A war is being waged on reality, everybody, and the left is leading the charge.
00:16:13.000Their radical gender ideology has seeped into children's classrooms, into medical terminology, and into our everyday life.
00:16:18.000It's producing a generation of psychological infants and confused young people.
00:16:21.000Not only that, but this radical ideology is trying to erase the people who brought us all into the world, women.
00:16:26.000Now, Matt Walsh of the Great Daily Wire is taking matters into his own hands.
00:16:31.000He recently embarked on a journey around the world to ask one simple question: What is a woman?
00:16:35.000And you'd be surprised not only how few are capable of answering, but also how many have a completely twisted idea of what a woman is.
00:16:41.000Thankfully, he got his whole experience on film.
00:16:43.000The documentary, they don't want you to see what is a woman.
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00:17:04.000Inflation is the number one issue that is facing Americans today.
00:17:08.000By far, I was getting an IV at my friend's Prana IV Therapy in Phoenix, Arizona, a phenomenal company.
00:17:17.000And I was just catching up with some of the guys there, and I asked them, I said, What's the biggest issue facing you?
00:17:22.000And they said, The cost of living is out of control.
00:17:24.000In fact, it's so bad is that my sense it's creating a spirit and a sense of cynicism amongst the working class, where people feel as if the harder they're working, the more they're falling behind.
00:17:36.000Where, and it was said a little bit jokingly and kiddingly, but some of the folks that were working there said, Why am I even working at all?
00:17:42.000Why don't I just go on government assistance?
00:17:44.000Like, why am I spending all my time just to get poor every single month?
00:17:49.000I want to just zero in on that kind of complaint.
00:17:52.000Where if you have working people that believe the more input they put into a society or the input they put into their life, that they're actually falling behind, not above, then you actually no longer live in a meritocracy.
00:18:05.000One of the dangers of inflation is that it destroys the promise that if you work hard and play by the rules, you're going to have some sort of reward and benefit on the other side.
00:18:15.000And so, there's a moral case for a meritocracy because it actually de-radicalizes people.
00:18:22.000People are less likely to commit crimes, they're less likely to loot and steal and murder.
00:18:27.000They're less likely to cheat if they believe that if they apply themselves in a lawful way, and tomorrow they're going to get something in return.
00:18:35.000What inflation does is inflation robs you of delayed gratification.
00:18:46.000You see, the West was built on delayed gratification.
00:18:49.000Now, this is not a concept that most countries understand, by the way.
00:18:53.000It's not a concept that most people understand.
00:18:55.000If you want to know the great divide between people that are kind of perpetually poor, generation after generation, and people that are wealthier or rich, and I understand you could win the genetic lottery, I understand that you might have a trust fund.
00:19:10.000But as a general rule, people that are wealthier and richer believe in the principle of delayed gratification, and people that stay poor generation after generation do not believe in delayed gratification.
00:19:24.000It's that I'm going to do something today that doesn't necessarily feel good in the immediate because what's going to come in the future is going to be worth it for myself or my children or my family, future generations.
00:19:33.000That I might, I'm going to wake up earlier.
00:19:48.000Most other countries don't understand this concept.
00:19:50.000In fact, countries that stay perpetually poor, especially if you look at subsistence farming, and it's not for any sort of negative accusation towards it, but it's you eat what you have, you do it immediately, you kind of stay where you are.
00:20:05.000The idea that you're going to plan for the future, which is beyond you, is something that inflation by a necessity obliterates.
00:21:56.000Is that you could compete for better prices.
00:21:58.000So the reason why 1970s inflation and 80s inflation was kind of almost intractable is you didn't have the internet to be like, actually, that's cheaper than that.
00:22:07.000Like that flight is cheaper than that one.
00:22:08.000The ability to compete or to be able to communicate in the price system becomes easier when you have widespread technology.
00:22:14.000At least that's been always the promise of the technocrats, right?
00:22:17.000The promise of the technology people is that, okay, you have Amazon, you have online shopping, you have communication, you have eBay.
00:22:27.000So people are going to be able to communicate quicker and communication brings competition, which brings down the price of goods.
00:22:32.000The fact that we have inflation while we have widespread communication and technology is a really bad sign.
00:22:40.000That means that people are able to have the most amount of information and communication at their disposal to be able to find every single lower price imaginable.
00:22:52.000And this is one of my complaints against the Republican Party is that I believe Biden is largely to blame for inflation, but so are Republicans.
00:23:02.000Look, I'm one of the few shows that is not going to be like, it's called Bidenflation.
00:23:05.000Like, actually, it was every single Republican that voted for that stupid stimulus bill that never should have been passed in the first place.
00:23:38.000Largely because his anti-energy policies, canceling Keystone XL pipeline, not allowing for the proliferation or the exploration of energy.
00:23:46.000Course, Biden is to blame for part of it.
00:23:48.000When will Republicans step up and start to own their part in creating inflation?
00:23:53.000The $1.9 trillion Rescue America, the amount, I think Republicans voted for at least $4 to $5 trillion in stimulus packages, right?
00:24:01.000The first one was like $1.8, and then there was a trillion and all this.
00:24:06.000Yeah, Biden is to blame, but big government Republicans were part of all this as well.
00:24:10.000Big government Republicans have said, like, well, you know, the economy's locked down and people need help.
00:24:15.000The best way to help people would have been to get government out of the way and not lock people down, not put masks on children, not mandate vaccines, and get us back to the normal, booming market economy where actually blue-collar workers were booming prior to these lockdowns.
00:24:32.000And so it's been big government politicians in both political parties.
00:24:35.000I put the most amount of blame, obviously, on Joe Biden.
00:26:00.000But Republicans cannot get a free pass because they were the ones that were pushing forward these big inflation policies while we were one of the only programs warning people this is going to be a disaster.
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00:28:57.000You see, the expression is usually, and this is where kind of the normy, moderate, really boring Republicans that are in the media, they say, you know, I refuse to categorize what could be called malevolence when really it's incompetence.
00:29:13.000How many times have you heard that line?
00:29:14.000They said, look, I don't want to try to chalk up bad intentions when just simple incompetency very well might explain it.
00:29:45.000You can't be wrong about masks around vaccines, the border, foreign wars, international trade, inflation, economic policy.
00:29:55.000What if they're actually not wrong about all of it?
00:29:58.000What if they're doing exactly what they want to do?
00:30:01.000You see, we have to, I think, liberate ourselves from the false paradigm that somehow we're living under kind of the tyranny of incompetent people.
00:30:11.000Trust me, there's plenty of stupid people.
00:30:13.000That Jean-Pierre girl that is the press secretary, she's way less intelligent than Jen Saki.
00:31:08.000Like, your one job is to make sure that the economy doesn't overheat with too many dollar bills.
00:31:13.000And you thought by creating 60 to 70 to 80 percent of all dollar bills ever created in a span of two years, we weren't going to live through hyperinflation?
00:31:22.000I think I was wrong then about the path that inflation would take.
00:31:29.000As I mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that have boosted energy and food prices and supply bottlenecks that have affected our economy badly that I didn't at the time didn't fully understand.
00:31:49.000Yeah, at the time, I didn't fully understand.