The Charlie Kirk Show - The Failed Values System of the Left

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, to end the Charlie Kirk Show, my speech at UCLA.

00:00:03.000 I talk about the five major issues that separate us from the progressive wokes.

00:00:07.000 And I also take a lot of questions from the audience.

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00:00:33.000 Here we go.

00:00:34.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:35.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

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00:00:44.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:45.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:46.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

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00:01:15.000 Thank you, everybody.

00:01:16.000 Thank you.

00:01:18.000 Please take a seat.

00:01:20.000 I apologize for the line and all that.

00:01:23.000 You know, it's very funny.

00:01:24.000 My whole speech is about trying not to complain more than you produce.

00:01:29.000 So I'm going to spend 30 seconds on this.

00:01:31.000 But I can't help but laugh, right?

00:01:33.000 So I'm being told, you know, people want to come in and 20 students weren't on the list and they weren't light.

00:01:37.000 And I said, boy, I wish our border worked that way, right?

00:01:40.000 You know, what's our list?

00:01:41.000 Your ID?

00:01:42.000 Get the hell out of here.

00:01:43.000 You're not here.

00:01:44.000 Get the hell out of here.

00:01:45.000 What a concept, right?

00:01:51.000 I got to tell you, I have UCLA envy.

00:01:54.000 I wish our border was as strong as the UCLA ticketing system.

00:02:00.000 I really do.

00:02:01.000 Why when you vote?

00:02:02.000 No voter ID.

00:02:03.000 But to get into UCLA, you got to have an ID.

00:02:05.000 Are you on the list?

00:02:06.000 No, sorry.

00:02:07.000 But I'm a student here.

00:02:08.000 It doesn't matter.

00:02:08.000 Never heard of you.

00:02:09.000 Get out of here.

00:02:09.000 Watch the live stream.

00:02:10.000 And we still had a really great turnout.

00:02:12.000 It's really incredible.

00:02:13.000 So thank you guys for waiting through all that.

00:02:15.000 I really appreciate it.

00:02:16.000 So, but it's really a great segue because it's so easy to just have your whole life centered around complaining.

00:02:25.000 And I really believe that the root of progressivism, leftism, wokeism is complaining more than you produce.

00:02:31.000 If you produce more than you complain, you're usually on the right.

00:02:33.000 If you complain more than you produce, you're usually on the left.

00:02:35.000 That's not always true, but it's generally true.

00:02:38.000 And you have to resist the temptation to allow carefully tailored complaints to dominate your life.

00:02:46.000 It is easy to do that.

00:02:48.000 It is easy to go pick up a random sign and while you're taking no personal responsibility for your life, march around and say, pay for my college, pay for my Wi-Fi, pay for my life.

00:02:57.000 It's like, okay, what are you producing?

00:02:58.000 No, no, no, I deserve it because, you know, I'm here and I deserve free college and reparations while we're at it.

00:03:03.000 You know what's hard?

00:03:04.000 It's hard to get a job.

00:03:04.000 It's hard to wake up early.

00:03:06.000 It's hard to stop engaging and indulging in your impulses at every possible turn.

00:03:11.000 Production is hard, but production built the West.

00:03:14.000 And what we're seeing right now is a series of ideas, and I'm going to call them the woke.

00:03:17.000 I don't love that term, that operates like a virus.

00:03:20.000 Now, we're all experts in viruses over the last couple of years, right?

00:03:24.000 Highly contagious, spread around, you know, and certain things are supposed to be safe and effective, and maybe they are not, but that's a separate issue we can talk about later.

00:03:32.000 And but viruses, now that we are all experts in it, the woke mind virus, in my opinion, is and was and remains more dangerous and more lethal than anything COVID-19 was the last couple of years.

00:03:48.000 This will destroy the country from within.

00:03:50.000 I'm going to build out that argument.

00:03:52.000 But understand that it is naturally tempting to embrace this set of ideas because it does not require you to do hard things to embrace the woke ideology.

00:04:05.000 It allows for somebody else to produce so that you don't have to produce.

00:04:09.000 So any one of us that are fighting for free markets, private property, borders, and I'm going to talk about the big differences.

00:04:15.000 And it's not even a right or left thing.

00:04:17.000 It honestly is an idea.

00:04:19.000 The divide is no longer right versus left.

00:04:21.000 We could talk about that stuff.

00:04:22.000 It's civilization versus the abyss.

00:04:26.000 And where these ideas are going to bring us is the closest to the abyss that you could possibly imagine.

00:04:31.000 And we all as human beings search for meaning.

00:04:33.000 One of the most important books, I hope all of you read it and study it, Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search for Meaning.

00:04:39.000 And it's an incredible book.

00:04:40.000 He's a Holocaust survivor in a concentration camp.

00:04:44.000 And his whole idea is that you have a series of choices you make every single day.

00:04:48.000 And you can choose whether or not you're going to view difficulty, pressure, as an opportunity to be happy and joyful or as nothing but negativity.

00:04:58.000 And what I love about Viktor Frankl is this is a guy who lost his wife in a concentration camp, a Holocaust survivor, that's telling you you must make a conscious choice every single day to be happy.

00:05:09.000 Newsflash, you might have a tough life.

00:05:11.000 You probably don't because you go to UCLA and you live in paradise, okay?

00:05:14.000 You definitely don't have a tougher life than Viktor Frankl did.

00:05:17.000 And he himself built an entire worldview that we must find something to fill that meaning.

00:05:22.000 And to the woke's credit, to the left's credit, they've done a much better job than we as conservatives have at advertising and evangelizing young people to believe to fill their big gap of meaning with a certain worldview.

00:05:35.000 They've done a much better job.

00:05:37.000 We as conservatives, you know, we're too busy building businesses, hopefully building families, you know, going to work, trying to save money, whatever you want to call it.

00:05:44.000 While the other side, they've dedicated their life through the ideological institutions, through colleges, through one right here, media institutions, to trying and convince a generation to believe in a subset of ideas that will ruin and destroy and erode the entire civilization around us.

00:05:59.000 And I kind of saw it on display today.

00:06:01.000 We had a great time out there, and there was this Hamas rally.

00:06:03.000 I don't like it when I say that, but that's what it was.

00:06:05.000 And a bunch of people screaming, from the river to the sea, let Palestine be free, which is the moral equivalent of swastika on the campus of UCLA.

00:06:14.000 The elimination of Jewish people.

00:06:16.000 And I looked, it was so incredible that I'd say maybe half were people that you would think would be Arab Muslim.

00:06:21.000 The other half were people that were just showing up because it's kind of the new thing to protest.

00:06:26.000 And you have to wonder.

00:06:27.000 You're like, okay, that gives you some source of meaning.

00:06:30.000 But if you're constantly engaging in just a protest against an oppressor, against something larger than yourself, you're not going to be a happy person.

00:06:38.000 You're not.

00:06:39.000 Instead, it's okay to protest here and there if there's injustice.

00:06:42.000 But I mean, I mean this absolutely seriously.

00:06:44.000 Like how many of those people can point Gaza on the map and tell me at least some historical fact?

00:06:48.000 Probably very few.

00:06:49.000 But they've been like wound up.

00:06:51.000 Like I saw a TikTok video, and I'm a geopolitical expert.

00:06:53.000 Like, yeah, I mean, probably not, honestly.

00:06:56.000 And by the way, while you're so worried about injustice, like are you worried about slavery happening on the southern border?

00:07:00.000 Like the children being that are sex trafficked in this city right now?

00:07:03.000 Like spare me your lectures, like social justice warrior UCLA, that somehow the people of Gaza are your concern.

00:07:08.000 You didn't care about the people of Gaza until all of a sudden someone on TikTok told you to get angry for their agenda.

00:07:14.000 You're a useful idiot for their agenda is what you are.

00:07:16.000 And they're winding you up the same way they did for the George Floyd stuff, the same thing they did for the BLM.

00:07:23.000 And so said differently, the woke want to destroy a world that they themselves could never build.

00:07:31.000 It is very hard to build things.

00:07:33.000 It is easy to tear them down.

00:07:35.000 It does not take talent to tear apart a bicycle.

00:07:39.000 I have a year old daughter, and she'll destroy everything.

00:07:43.000 That's easy.

00:07:44.000 That's what infants do.

00:07:46.000 Adults build stuff.

00:07:48.000 And as simply as I can put it, at the basis of left-wing progressive ideology, is trying to have people never grow up.

00:07:57.000 To have them remain perpetually as infants, to complain more than produce and disassemble more than they build.

00:08:04.000 Understand that to build beautiful things, including this city, which is being destroyed, might I add you, by the very same people that I am mentioning.

00:08:13.000 This city, Los Angeles, one of the most amazing cities, was once one of the most amazing cities, is deteriorating from within.

00:08:19.000 Why is it deteriorating?

00:08:20.000 Is it because a meteor hit?

00:08:21.000 Is it because some of it, no, it's because of bad ideas.

00:08:24.000 Oh, let's not lock up criminals because of racial justice.

00:08:27.000 Let's allow the homeless to run the streets.

00:08:29.000 Let's not evict people from their homes.

00:08:32.000 By the way, have you tried to buy a home in Los Angeles recently?

00:08:35.000 Prices are going up.

00:08:37.000 And you think about your, and people are leaving in massive, massive numbers.

00:08:41.000 And you wonder, where are they going to?

00:08:43.000 Are they going to other places?

00:08:45.000 Like, how many people, I'm really curious, leave LA for San Francisco?

00:08:48.000 Like, probably not a lot of people.

00:08:50.000 It's like trading one, you know, I'm not going to say that.

00:08:53.000 One, I have this whole theory.

00:08:55.000 If it wasn't for the weather, I think like 800,000 people would live in California.

00:09:01.000 I really, I think, I have a whole theory on this, that, you know, you wake up and it's like 61 degrees and it's that perfect, and you're like, you know what, I could live under socialism.

00:09:12.000 It's just fine.

00:09:12.000 It's not that bad.

00:09:14.000 And it's like 2 o'clock in the afternoon and you check your phone and it's like snowing in Chicago and it's 71 degrees.

00:09:20.000 And you're like, you know, I can endure it.

00:09:23.000 I honestly believe it is the largest open-air hostage experiment in the history of American politics.

00:09:30.000 I really, it's how, what will people tolerate with good weather?

00:09:34.000 I think it's really the question that will be, if it wasn't for the weather, the place would completely collapse.

00:09:38.000 But understand that it makes you embrace delusions and insanity in order to satisfy the lowest parts of your humanity.

00:09:46.000 And this is really important because there are some parts of nature that we should appreciate and there are some parts of nature that we should restrain.

00:09:52.000 We are all naturally inclined to have envy and greed and resentment.

00:09:58.000 We're all naturally wired that way.

00:10:00.000 Again, if you just study children, you'll learn so much.

00:10:03.000 You're like, wow, we have to teach the child to say thank you.

00:10:06.000 One time, a thousand times, 5,000 times.

00:10:10.000 It doesn't naturally happen.

00:10:11.000 We have to teach them to appreciate that things don't just come ex nihilo out of nothing.

00:10:16.000 And even further than that, when you implement what I will call the woke, which is honestly ideas so dumb you need a PhD to actually advance them and to believe in them, which is, you know, men can give birth, borders don't matter.

00:10:29.000 And you implement these ideas, people's lives do not materially improve.

00:10:32.000 So we've tried this for now a couple years, okay?

00:10:34.000 We're living through a cultural evolution post-2020.

00:10:38.000 What does the evidence show?

00:10:40.000 LA, San Francisco, Bay Area, Philadelphia, New York, Chicago.

00:10:44.000 It's not like one city.

00:10:45.000 I could name 10.

00:10:47.000 Are these places flourishing, increasing in population, businesses thriving there?

00:10:51.000 People are happier than ever?

00:10:53.000 No.

00:10:53.000 And in every one of these isolated areas where you try to emphasize the feelings of a criminal over the implementation of the rule of law, at every single one of these people where, places where you allow district attorneys to have no cash bail, so the most insane things ever, people's lives actually fall apart.

00:11:11.000 But what drives them?

00:11:12.000 This is what's important.

00:11:13.000 And this is why you'll see somebody at the free Palestine rally with a gay flag.

00:11:20.000 It makes no sense, right?

00:11:21.000 It's just, again, it's, okay, explain that.

00:11:26.000 If you're a person who's gay and you go into Gaza, that's not going to work well for you, okay?

00:11:32.000 I could say something else, but I'm not going to say it.

00:11:34.000 But I'll just stop there.

00:11:36.000 So, should I say it?

00:11:37.000 Yeah, it's like I have this.

00:11:40.000 You see, Andrew didn't like this one line, so I don't know if I'm going to use it.

00:11:43.000 But I'll just, I'll say, I'll say how I used to say it, okay?

00:11:47.000 Is that they would be given flying lessons off buildings, okay, if they went to Gaza, which is true.

00:11:52.000 You know, oh, yeah, we need a free, free Palestine.

00:11:55.000 I think, I don't think you really know what you're advocating for.

00:11:58.000 It's just hilarious.

00:11:59.000 But anyway, intersectionality is the law, is the law of the left or the rule of the land.

00:12:04.000 And I'll explain this as quickly as I possibly can, where you teach an entire generation to view the world a certain way.

00:12:11.000 Oppressor versus oppressed.

00:12:13.000 And the kind of thought crime that needs to be said is that America has problems, we have injustices, but we have far more blessings than we have injustices in this country.

00:12:26.000 We have far more opportunity.

00:12:28.000 I'm not going to say here and not say everyone's been treated beautifully and wonderfully, but largely, more times than not, you're given an opportunity to have your hard work rewarded.

00:12:38.000 That's a big deal.

00:12:39.000 So therefore, I don't really want to hear your complaining.

00:12:43.000 I wonder what you're going to do to improve the material standing in your life.

00:12:47.000 But that doesn't make people on the left politically more powerful.

00:12:50.000 So therefore, they write these books, you know, Intro to Critical Theory, Paula Fieri, all that Herbert Maracuse and Michelle Foucault, where they'll say, okay, the world is really divided between oppressor and the oppressed.

00:12:59.000 And so they use that with race, right?

00:13:01.000 We saw that for about two and a half years.

00:13:03.000 And honestly, one of the good things is the country has moved in the right direction on race in the last couple of years.

00:13:09.000 Affirmative action is less popular than ever before.

00:13:12.000 All the CRT stuff is less popular than ever before.

00:13:14.000 One of the victories of the American right is how successfully we pushed back against all of these race lies that were being peddled on our institutions.

00:13:23.000 Not totally gone, but it's one of the lesser appreciated victories.

00:13:28.000 So you could apply this to anything, right?

00:13:29.000 Rich versus poor, or men versus women.

00:13:31.000 So they view everything not just through class struggle, but through power struggle.

00:13:36.000 And it goes directly into the Israel-Palestine issue.

00:13:40.000 So if you train a generation to think a certain way, don't be shocked when they start thinking that way when it applies to everything.

00:13:47.000 And so, you know, I get asked a lot.

00:13:49.000 I said, Charlie, why do American kids care so much about Palestinian?

00:13:51.000 They don't care about Palestine.

00:13:52.000 They think they're caring about liberation and smashing the oppressor.

00:13:56.000 Now, I'll be the first one to march alongside anybody if there is a legitimate oppressor that is doing something so disproportionately wrong.

00:14:04.000 For example, I don't know, the Department of Justice going after a former president for running for office because you're afraid he might win.

00:14:11.000 I think that's an oppressive thing.

00:14:13.000 And they say, oh, yeah, no, he committed.

00:14:15.000 Okay, give me a break.

00:14:17.000 I'm all for hearing legitimate feedback of things that might not be structured the right way.

00:14:22.000 However, what is not legitimate is applying that same lens as a working matrix as a way to live and operate your life by.

00:14:30.000 And I'll just say this as a side note, which is if, if, if you want to live a happy life, if you don't want to be one of the members of your generation that's the most depressed, suicidal, alcohol-addicted, and drug-addicted in history, if, I will tell you this, you will not live a happy life if you go around looking for people to blame for your problems.

00:14:52.000 It is impossible.

00:14:54.000 And if you want to stay on, by the way, some people want to stay unhappy.

00:14:58.000 You know why?

00:14:58.000 Happiness takes work.

00:14:59.000 It doesn't happen to you.

00:15:01.000 It is a daily labor to be happy.

00:15:04.000 You have to do hard things.

00:15:06.000 You have to say no sometimes when things feel good.

00:15:09.000 You have to build things.

00:15:10.000 You have to resist natural temptations.

00:15:12.000 So anyway, since the woke ideas are so unpopular and they're against the natural law, this is where you start to get tyranny.

00:15:21.000 And this is very, very important.

00:15:23.000 Is that tyranny sometimes comes out?

00:15:25.000 Sometimes you just get people that love to be in power and they want to tell you to live your life.

00:15:28.000 Like Dr. Fauci should be in Gitmo, terrible guy, right?

00:15:32.000 I think this guy loves being in charge of other people's lives.

00:15:35.000 Okay?

00:15:36.000 Now, I'm sure you all have different opinions of Gavin Nussalini and kind of what he's done here in California.

00:15:41.000 But I mean, look, honestly, I look at him, I say, he's probably more like Prom King, right?

00:15:46.000 He wants to be popular.

00:15:47.000 He goes to China and like mows down poor Chinese kids when he's playing basketball.

00:15:52.000 Like, what is that all about, by the way?

00:15:53.000 That was one of the weirdest things.

00:15:55.000 Like, you know, it's behind the back, boom, poor little eight-year-old Chinese kid.

00:15:59.000 Like, geez.

00:16:03.000 He wants to be popular.

00:16:04.000 And so, I, again, I don't know the intentions of this.

00:16:06.000 People that I've worked with them say, look, he'll do what is the most politically expedient and popular.

00:16:10.000 However, if you embrace a subset of woke ideas, I'll just use Newsome for an example, and you want to be popular, you realize that what you're doing is unpopular.

00:16:18.000 And therefore, you are left with a choice.

00:16:20.000 You can either feel the reckoning of the people, or you then can become a mini tyrant and silence the opposition.

00:16:29.000 And what it ends up doing is you get suppression, censorship, outright authoritarian methodology where people realize, well, these ideas aren't exactly popular.

00:16:39.000 Like, I don't know, chopping off the parts of a 12-year-old and calling it gender-affirming care and not telling the parent, not exactly pop.

00:16:47.000 Just to understand how insane this state has become, you guys probably know this.

00:16:50.000 That there was a bill in the California legislature, regardless of your opinion on the trans thing, this should not even be a question, okay?

00:16:55.000 Is that there was a bill in the California legislature to say that you have to at least notify a parent if a child in school is receiving gender-affirming care.

00:17:03.000 Just like, hey, hey, Mrs. Smith, your 12-year-old is on Lupron.

00:17:08.000 Thanks for the heads up.

00:17:09.000 Appreciate it.

00:17:10.000 And they shot down the bill in the California letter.

00:17:12.000 They say, No, no, no, a parent should not get in the way of a child discovering who they really are.

00:17:17.000 And I'm going to get to that in a second because the family is a big part of this.

00:17:21.000 But that's not possible.

00:17:22.000 I don't, I refuse to believe a majority of Californians actually think that's a good idea.

00:17:26.000 And so they have to lie about it, or they have to suppress or censor or go after the side.

00:17:30.000 So in some ways, you get outright tearing authoritarianism and despotism as an outgrowth of these bad ideas.

00:17:35.000 Now, as one of the other kind of wrinkles of this, you get decolonization, right?

00:17:39.000 So if you view everything through an oppressor and oppressed lens, they look at Israel and they immediately say that's a colon, that is a colon, that's a colonizing type project.

00:17:47.000 They view America the same way.

00:17:49.000 It's a Marxist idea that they apply to Israel.

00:17:53.000 And they're saying the same thing when it comes to indigenous and native lands.

00:17:57.000 And it is nothing more than an excuse to try and accomplish the five big differences between those of us that live in reality and those that call themselves wokeys or whatever you want to call them.

00:18:09.000 And this is my final point, then we'll do some questions, which I know is the most fun.

00:18:12.000 And this is not right versus left.

00:18:14.000 Let me be very clear.

00:18:16.000 All five of these things, I would be in agreement with a classical liberal.

00:18:20.000 All five.

00:18:21.000 Every one of these five, Alan Dershowitz and I agree on.

00:18:25.000 Yet we vote differently.

00:18:26.000 I want you to understand this is not a political thing.

00:18:29.000 It has political implications.

00:18:31.000 But the five things I'm going to mention used to be universally accepted in the country.

00:18:35.000 Now it's considered to be controversial or inflammatory.

00:18:38.000 The first is a little bit nerdy, but it's very, very important, which is private property.

00:18:43.000 You cannot have a free society if people can't keep the stuff they earn.

00:18:47.000 Period.

00:18:48.000 You cannot have a free society if the government can take a majority of your labor.

00:18:52.000 You cannot have it, which includes, by the way, rewarding success.

00:18:56.000 I'm going to get to success in a second.

00:18:58.000 But owning stuff and saying, this is mine, not yours, stay away, is a bedrock principle of Western civilization.

00:19:06.000 Taking people's stuff away under the guise of equity.

00:19:10.000 Now, some of you in this room might say, but I want a fairer world and I want, all that's fine and it's just.

00:19:16.000 The question is, are you willing to take somebody else's stuff and redistribute it with force under the guise of fairness?

00:19:22.000 And if true, you must apply the rule to yourself.

00:19:26.000 And this is the one thing I will say, and every political movement has contradictions.

00:19:31.000 The right has far fewer contradictions, but I find it so interesting that the people that are lecturing us about open borders live in gated communities that don't want school choice send their kids to private schools.

00:19:44.000 The people that lecture us about crime are able to hire bodyguards and live in kind of like these very tailored communities.

00:19:51.000 That's fine.

00:19:52.000 If you have these beliefs, you have to then apply it to yourself.

00:19:56.000 So, for example, if you are a star student and you're in honor roll, you must be willing to give your grade to someone who has an F so that you both have C's because equity is the purpose of the revolution, isn't it?

00:20:09.000 The only fair way to do grading at UCLA is we all get C's.

00:20:12.000 Better yet, if you're an Asian or you're a white student and you got an A, you must give your grade to a person of color and you must sit aside and say, I don't want to go to law school.

00:20:21.000 I don't want to go to residency because viva la revolution.

00:20:25.000 And if you don't believe that, then you're going to have some explaining to do.

00:20:28.000 I'm not going to say you're a hypocrite, but you must apply the standard.

00:20:31.000 I have no such problem with my worldview, nor do our turning point USA students.

00:20:35.000 They say, no, I worked hard.

00:20:37.000 I deserve an A. Don't take it from me.

00:20:39.000 What a concept.

00:20:41.000 So number one is private property.

00:20:43.000 Number two, I talked about this.

00:20:44.000 It's borders, okay?

00:20:46.000 You cannot have free societies without borders.

00:20:49.000 One of the reasons why the media hates Israel is that they have strong borders.

00:20:53.000 They cannot stand it.

00:20:54.000 They want an international globalist project of the free flow of people moving from one place to the other.

00:20:59.000 And I just find it so interesting.

00:21:01.000 It's not just Israel that wants strong borders.

00:21:03.000 Do you notice that Egypt and Jordan don't want to take the people of Gaza?

00:21:06.000 It's like, oh, really?

00:21:07.000 If these people are such rock stars, why is it that the Jordan says, we're not going to take it?

00:21:11.000 I thought you guys are all like, you know, Muslim brothers under Allah or whatever.

00:21:14.000 Like, what is, we don't want those.

00:21:16.000 Oh, hold on a second.

00:21:18.000 Then why should we take them into our country?

00:21:19.000 First of all, we shouldn't take them into our country, America.

00:21:22.000 And borders is a way to differentiate where government power stops.

00:21:29.000 By definition, you want limited government, have borders, have sovereign nations.

00:21:35.000 It says, my power, my authority, stops right at this very place.

00:21:39.000 Borders is where good ideas can begin and bad ideas start, or vice versa.

00:21:44.000 Right now, we do not have a southern border in this country.

00:21:47.000 Just under Joe Biden, 8 million people have illegally entered into this country.

00:21:51.000 I don't care if you are right or if you are left or progressive.

00:21:54.000 That is an indefensible position to have 8 million people illegally enter into the country.

00:21:59.000 And they say, well, it's under justice because these people are poor.

00:22:02.000 First of all, they totally scam our asylum system, okay?

00:22:06.000 And they'll lie, and some of them, not all of them, are smuggling and trafficking children.

00:22:10.000 But we must be very morally clear.

00:22:12.000 And this is a teaching that built the West that's originally from the Bible, but it's that you shall not favor a rich person or a poor person in the administration of justice.

00:22:20.000 Just because somebody is poor does not make it okay to steal or to break into somebody's home.

00:22:27.000 And we flirted with that idea, by the way, during all the race riots.

00:22:31.000 Like, oh, well, you know, they're poor, so it's okay if they steal, you know, the big screen TVs.

00:22:35.000 Never is that okay.

00:22:36.000 Number three, obvious.

00:22:38.000 And I, again, I use the Alan Dershowitz test, right?

00:22:40.000 Alan Dershowitz has been kicked out of Harvard.

00:22:42.000 He's written, you know, 60 books.

00:22:44.000 He's a liberal.

00:22:45.000 He doesn't like Trump, even though he represented him, which is hilarious.

00:22:48.000 He's a true free speech liberal.

00:22:50.000 And that's number three, which is speech, okay?

00:22:52.000 That free speech is a fundamental prerequisite to human flourishing and to the advancement of civilization as we know it.

00:23:00.000 And speech includes that you must be okay with somebody you consider to be morally repugnant, having the same rights to speak that you do.

00:23:10.000 And this is what drives me crazy.

00:23:11.000 Do you know more than half, I don't know at this campus, but half of students across the country say that we should be able to censor hate speech.

00:23:18.000 That is a really troubling sign, everybody, because you know what?

00:23:21.000 They consider almost everything on the right, quote unquote, hate speech.

00:23:25.000 By the way, what a boring society it would be if we, I'm just being honest, I think that it's awesome for the country to have Joe Rogan do what Joe Rogan does.

00:23:34.000 You know, have conversations about ayahuasca and aliens and all that stuff.

00:23:40.000 I think free speech is not only a moral good, I think it makes life worth living.

00:23:44.000 I think a society that polices speech polices thoughts.

00:23:48.000 It polices values.

00:23:50.000 And here's the one thing I will say, and I got to brag on our conservative students here.

00:23:54.000 We are willing to have the tough conversations.

00:23:57.000 I cannot always say it's the same for those on the left.

00:24:00.000 Because speech is violence.

00:24:02.000 How many times have you guys heard this?

00:24:03.000 Speech is violence.

00:24:04.000 Speech is violence.

00:24:06.000 Well, maybe speech is a threat, is what you're really saying.

00:24:09.000 is that if people can speak, your bad ideas will be exposed and you might persuade.

00:24:13.000 Now, this campus is, you know, it's not exactly the easiest place to put on an event.

00:24:17.000 But I'll tell you this.

00:24:17.000 I'll give you example after example after example of people protesting and petitions to try to prevent us from coming on campus.

00:24:24.000 You think about it.

00:24:24.000 Wait a second.

00:24:25.000 This is an optional event where you have to wait like an hour and a half to get in.

00:24:27.000 You have to do a specific ticketing thing.

00:24:29.000 And you go here and even if you disagree to the front of the line.

00:24:32.000 So all in all, it's like 60 minutes of programming, right?

00:24:36.000 And someone is super worried that Charlie Kirk gets 60 minutes at UCLA because deep down, an honest leftist, a true Bolshevik, someone who's committed to the revolution knows that Charlie Kirk in 60 minutes can undo four years of left-wing Marxist indoctrination.

00:24:56.000 Okay, number four, five, and then we'll get to questions.

00:24:59.000 Four, the family.

00:25:00.000 The family is a bedrock of any civilization.

00:25:03.000 I look to the scriptures.

00:25:04.000 It says, honor your mother and father so that you may live long to the land of which you are in.

00:25:07.000 You dishonor your parents.

00:25:08.000 You dishonor what's come ahead of you.

00:25:10.000 Family is everything to the advancement of a free society.

00:25:14.000 In Mao's China, they created 10 categories, and the children and the parents were tied together, so the parents were incentivized to either radically go with the Red Party or the children to turn in their parents.

00:25:25.000 By the way, we're living through a very, very soft version of American Maoism.

00:25:30.000 It's getting firmer and firmer.

00:25:32.000 I could talk about the family at length, but I would love anybody here tonight to justify, and I mean this, you can come to the mic, and I'm open.

00:25:40.000 It's not a trick to tell me the argument against notifying a parent that your child is receiving drugs to quote unquote change their gender, which doesn't even change their gender.

00:25:50.000 It just chops off their parts or stops puberty, okay?

00:25:53.000 And it is a concerted effort to stop the raising of children and instead have them go look for partnership with the government.

00:26:02.000 You destroy the family, you expand government.

00:26:04.000 Number five, this is the biggest of all topics, how you view success.

00:26:07.000 It's the lens of how you view success.

00:26:09.000 I don't know about you.

00:26:10.000 When I see somebody very successful, my gut instinct, and I encourage it for you, because it's just a happier way to live, is, wow, that person probably had an awesome idea, worked really hard, was able to deliver some big value, and there's something I want to learn from them.

00:26:24.000 Far too often, and by the way, the right at times engaged in this.

00:26:28.000 This one is somewhat all across the board, but it's more built into progressive Marxist ideology.

00:26:33.000 You see somebody with a big home, you say, they must have stole their way.

00:26:37.000 They must have lied their way.

00:26:38.000 They must have cheated their way.

00:26:40.000 They must have conned a lot of people to get there.

00:26:43.000 And it goes to zero-sum thinking.

00:26:46.000 In a market economy, just because someone gets richer, it does not mean somebody got poorer.

00:26:51.000 In fact, you create a product and other people's lives improve along the way.

00:26:55.000 Entrepreneurs are modern-day problem solvers.

00:26:58.000 And what we are doing is we are disincentivizing that next generation of entrepreneurs to take the risks, to go big, and to solve those problems.

00:27:06.000 Why would you go create the next big company, the next sales force, whatever?

00:27:10.000 He's a communist, by the way, but that's a separate issue.

00:27:12.000 Why would you go create the next big idea if you can't keep what you've earned?

00:27:18.000 I'll just go be a desk worker bureaucrat and I'll just take government welfare.

00:27:24.000 Ingenuity and innovation is impossible if people can't keep their reward.

00:27:30.000 I am very afraid.

00:27:32.000 And in some ways, it's both on the right and the left, but it's much more on the left.

00:27:35.000 That we are becoming a resentful-filled society.

00:27:38.000 When we see success, we think of them as robber barons, not as something we could learn from.

00:27:44.000 With that, let's do some questions, everybody.

00:27:45.000 Thank you for sitting through that.

00:27:47.000 A couple ground rules.

00:27:48.000 Here's the thing: so, if you disagree, you can go to the front of the line.

00:27:52.000 And it's generally a conservative-ish audience.

00:27:56.000 If somebody comes up and says something that you deem to be wacky or weird, do not boo that person.

00:28:02.000 Do not interrupt that person.

00:28:04.000 Please show our progressive friends that have come here tonight the respect that they don't show us conservatives.

00:28:10.000 So let's live out our values tonight.

00:28:12.000 Okay, everybody?

00:28:12.000 It's not easy to get up and to do that.

00:28:14.000 So here is the line.

00:28:16.000 If you guys want to start forming, don't be shy.

00:28:18.000 We'll talk to you guys.

00:28:20.000 Students get priority.

00:28:21.000 I know we have some community members and stakeholders as well that came here, but students do get priority since it is at UCLA.

00:28:27.000 But we will try to get to as many questions as possible.

00:28:29.000 And yes, ma'am, first question.

00:28:31.000 Hi, I'm Tara.

00:28:32.000 I'm from God Speak Calvary Church with Rob McCoy.

00:28:36.000 Saw you speak there.

00:28:37.000 Amazing.

00:28:38.000 So one thing that he said that I thought was really interesting: that 80% of young adults ages 25 and younger support Hamas.

00:28:46.000 And I was wondering why you think that is.

00:28:48.000 Yeah, it kind of piggybacks on what I was saying earlier.

00:28:52.000 If you have a thinking system, if you have a specific matrix of how you view the world, they apply that to the Israel Hamas type issue, right?

00:28:59.000 So oppressor and oppressed, that there must be a good guy or a bad guy embedded in every single type.

00:29:04.000 And of course, there is some truth to a good guy, bad guy type thing.

00:29:08.000 They have it exactly wrong, by the way, okay?

00:29:10.000 It's exactly inverted.

00:29:11.000 But to be perfectly honest, some of it is Jew hatred.

00:29:16.000 That's not the easiest or most simple explanation.

00:29:19.000 But it really is a disdain for Western sovereign nations that respect many of the ideas that I talk about.

00:29:26.000 And a question that needs to be answered is: okay, why did the people of Gaza and the government of Gaza prioritize in their charter killing Jews more than creating a wealthy and vibrant and peaceful society?

00:29:40.000 Now, I understand there's difficulties, but they receive hundreds of millions of dollars in external aid.

00:29:44.000 And instead of using that aid to benefit their people, they build rockets and terror tunnels.

00:29:50.000 They put human shields and they use hospitals as a way to insulate them against attacks.

00:29:55.000 And so what needs to be reiterated is that the way that they could have actually gotten back at Israel is turning the Gaza Strip, which is arable land, by the way, right on the Mediterranean, it's gorgeous, into one of the wealthiest places of square miles on the planet.

00:30:11.000 But that would mean that you have to embrace a very specific and certain value system in order to do that.

00:30:16.000 And it's the values that are the issue.

00:30:18.000 Thank you so much.

00:30:18.000 Appreciate it.

00:30:19.000 Thank you.

00:30:25.000 Hi.

00:30:25.000 My name is Kaylee.

00:30:26.000 I just was told I disagreed, so they pushed me off.

00:30:29.000 I'm sorry.

00:30:30.000 I don't mean to.

00:30:30.000 If you don't, first of all, thank you for your courage.

00:30:33.000 Can we have a different way of doing that instead of like a fire code thing?

00:30:37.000 What is this Game of Thrones?

00:30:38.000 Like you got to walk.

00:30:39.000 People are going to start throwing stuff.

00:30:40.000 I'm sorry about that.

00:30:41.000 No worries.

00:30:42.000 Like, I'm a liberal and I don't mind talking to people.

00:30:45.000 I basically just wanted to bring up, I mean, you talked a lot, you know, about UCLA campus and people, and how people can't listen to things and liberals don't like hearing and like whatever.

00:30:56.000 And I mean, I just wanted to point out that I didn't hear anyone like make any comments or anything.

00:31:01.000 And I've even learned in one of my communications classes about how one time at UC Berkeley, there was this conservative Republican talking there and they were yelling.

00:31:10.000 And we had that conversation about how that's, you know, how basically that's not okay.

00:31:16.000 So, I mean, I guess I just kind of want to point out how, you know, you're making a lot of assumptions coming in here, but I think everyone listened.

00:31:24.000 And I told the girl that I hadn't come up with my question yet, and she pushed me here.

00:31:27.000 So that's correct.

00:31:28.000 That's all my thoughts on that.

00:31:30.000 And you would agree that we shouldn't ban hate speech or censor what would be considered hate speech.

00:31:34.000 Exactly.

00:31:35.000 It's good to be having these conversations.

00:31:37.000 Like, my dad is a far-right QAnon conspiracy theorist, but here I am.

00:31:41.000 So maybe you can learn something from him.

00:31:44.000 So.

00:31:48.000 Honor your mother and father so that they may live long in the land of which you're in.

00:31:52.000 Yeah.

00:31:52.000 I mean, it's kind of ironic, you know, the things you talk about because, like, my dad doesn't work.

00:31:56.000 He spends all of his time on QAnon and everything, doesn't support his family, like hasn't had a job since he was just far as a lawyer.

00:32:02.000 So it's pretty ironic being with him and listening to you, to be honest.

00:32:07.000 But yeah, I mean, I love you, Dad.

00:32:09.000 That's why we had an intervention.

00:32:11.000 But it's really tough.

00:32:14.000 And I know these are like some of the biggest things in my life, but I...

00:32:17.000 Well, I will say I'm glad you listened to the speech.

00:32:20.000 You are in the minority of the generation.

00:32:21.000 The majority of the generation believes hate speech should be censored.

00:32:25.000 And God bless you for being here tonight.

00:32:26.000 Appreciate it.

00:32:27.000 Thank you very much.

00:32:33.000 Thank you for coming tonight, Charlie.

00:32:35.000 I really enjoyed your speech.

00:32:37.000 I'll begin with, though I adamantly disagree with many of your views, I strongly believe in the importance of keeping the gates of discourse open and thriving throughout our country, especially here on college campuses.

00:32:49.000 At the core of a thriving democracy is the presence of well-mannered dialogue and conversation.

00:32:55.000 Of course, dialogue, at least in the form of it being enlightening, requires the parties involved to be willing to engage in productive, empathetic, and on-device conversations.

00:33:05.000 However, these days we see a lack of this on both sides.

00:33:08.000 So my question is, how do we move forward with our current state of low-quality discourse and what needs to happen to better engage with those of different parties?

00:33:17.000 And then I'll add for you, and as a political figure, will you reflect on the manner in which you discuss political issues and notice possible areas in which your style of argumentation increases inter-party division?

00:33:30.000 Thank you.

00:33:31.000 Okay, sure.

00:33:31.000 Yeah, I mean, I'll reflect on it.

00:33:34.000 I will say I will be very proud of how we allow people who disagree at every single event to come to the front of the line.

00:33:41.000 We've made that a rule over a decade, and I think that's a really good thing.

00:33:44.000 And I wish more people would do that.

00:33:47.000 But look, I will say, let's just use a huge example.

00:33:52.000 Was it the American right or largely the American left that engaged in active censorship in the 2020 election?

00:33:59.000 The left.

00:34:00.000 Okay.

00:34:01.000 So do you think who has a greater speech problem, like a tolerance of different ideas, right or left?

00:34:07.000 And I don't mean to overly politicize it.

00:34:09.000 I just want to try to isolate it so we can fix it.

00:34:13.000 Sure, absolutely.

00:34:14.000 I actually wasn't disagreeing with you on this point.

00:34:17.000 It was more so of that.

00:34:19.000 I do agree it is the left that's in question here, but I wanted your opinion on the state of discourse.

00:34:25.000 No, the state of discourse is awful.

00:34:27.000 It's terrible.

00:34:28.000 I'll give you an example.

00:34:29.000 This didn't happen here, and I was surprised, to be honest.

00:34:31.000 I went to go speak at Arizona State University with Dennis Prager, not exactly the most controversial person, right?

00:34:37.000 Maybe you feel like a disagreement about Deuteronomy or something.

00:34:39.000 I don't know.

00:34:40.000 But I love Dennis, but not exactly controversial.

00:34:43.000 And the professors, right, 33 out of 40 of the professors at Arizona State University said we should not be allowed to come on campus, right?

00:34:52.000 That is not a liberal value.

00:34:53.000 That's a Bolshevik value, right?

00:34:55.000 And you have to wonder what motivates them to want to sign a petition like that to try to prevent that kind of dialogue and discourse from occurring.

00:35:03.000 So, I mean, look, the trajectory right now towards censorship overall is very bad.

00:35:10.000 It's very damaging.

00:35:11.000 And people get angrier, right?

00:35:14.000 So one of the things I'm encouraged is when people that don't agree with me come to events like this and maybe they'll think a little bit differently about one or two items.

00:35:22.000 I think that de-radicalizes the country.

00:35:25.000 My question always is: Have you sat through and listened to somebody where it's their job to defend the worldview?

00:35:32.000 All of our turning point kids have.

00:35:33.000 They go to college.

00:35:33.000 They do it every single day, right?

00:35:35.000 And so the question is: have people on the left done that?

00:35:37.000 And I think that's what very healthy.

00:35:39.000 And look, when people are very angry and frustrated, they listen to demagogues more.

00:35:44.000 And free speech is not just, you know, it's not just fun, as I mentioned.

00:35:48.000 Free speech is very healing because I believe it appeals to people's reason and it appeals to their ability to make informed decisions and inherently will de-radicalize a country.

00:35:58.000 And the problem is, one of the reasons why the American right was so upset, and I was with them in the post-2020 election, is that we had the FBI colluding with Twitter to cover up the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:36:12.000 We had 50 intel agency officials say that it was Russian disinformation.

00:36:17.000 Mark Zuckerberg stifled it and censored it.

00:36:19.000 I go through the whole list, right?

00:36:20.000 Many of you know this, some of you might not.

00:36:22.000 And that is one of the most flagrant and unforgivable actions of election interference in our country's history.

00:36:30.000 And so don't be shocked when people get very brazen and upset after that.

00:36:33.000 So anyway, thank you so much.

00:36:37.000 Hi.

00:36:39.000 Like everyone here, I believe in free speech very strongly.

00:36:41.000 But my question is to what extent could we allow people, specifically on public college campuses, specifically people at pro-Hamas rallies, to be allowed to shout phrases like, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free and gas the Jews, genocide the Jews.

00:36:57.000 I would never want to censor them, but at the same time, they are spreading hateful messages.

00:37:02.000 What should we do in response?

00:37:03.000 Smart question.

00:37:04.000 First of all, if they're here on a foreign student visa, they should be deported back to their country.

00:37:10.000 That's not a speech.

00:37:11.000 That's just a terrorist supporting issue.

00:37:13.000 But my line to use force to shut them up would be very, very direct incitement.

00:37:21.000 For example, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

00:37:23.000 They have a right to say that.

00:37:24.000 I would not use police force to shut them up.

00:37:26.000 If a sign says, let's go kill Jews, yeah, that's direct incitement of violence.

00:37:31.000 I haven't seen that sign here.

00:37:32.000 I did see it in Australia where they were marching in the streets, gas the Jews, gas the Jews, gas the Jews.

00:37:38.000 That's unacceptable.

00:37:39.000 That's a direct action towards incitement.

00:37:41.000 And Dershowitz was the one that wrote a lot of the argued for the precedent.

00:37:45.000 I have a very, very, very high bar to use police force to shut people up because every single day people are trying to shut me up, saying that I'm hateful and that I'm bigoted or spreading disinformation.

00:37:58.000 Thank you very much.

00:37:59.000 Appreciate it.

00:37:59.000 Thank you.

00:38:04.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:38:05.000 Thanks so much for coming out.

00:38:07.000 And you mentioned earlier in your talk that 8 million people have illegally immigrated to this country since Biden took office.

00:38:14.000 Yeah.

00:38:14.000 Ish, right?

00:38:15.000 Which is extremely concerning for national security reasons, among many other.

00:38:19.000 But given the rapid demographic change this country has experienced and the consequent destruction of American identity, would you support a reduction or even a complete moratorium on legal immigration?

00:38:32.000 Yep.

00:38:32.000 Moratorium.

00:38:33.000 I've said that before.

00:38:34.000 Yep.

00:38:34.000 Awesome.

00:38:35.000 Thank you.

00:38:35.000 And by the way, I'll say this.

00:38:37.000 Every American student should be put ahead of a foreign student.

00:38:40.000 Here's the thing.

00:38:41.000 You guys are going to have a harder time than that.

00:38:43.000 I'm just going to use a reason for here.

00:38:46.000 If you are an American student, it's harder than ever for you to do very basic things.

00:38:50.000 By the way, this is not a right or left issue.

00:38:51.000 We're sitting on a potential Russian revolution right now because you're about to have 50 million young people that own nothing.

00:38:59.000 They might be able to pay for rent.

00:39:01.000 Every dollar is going towards their living expenses.

00:39:05.000 And they're not getting married and not having children.

00:39:08.000 That is a political thermonuclear bomb that is about to detonate.

00:39:12.000 You have 50 million people that don't own property and they're not getting married and they don't have kids.

00:39:16.000 So why should we bring in foreign workers while our own students can't find jobs?

00:39:23.000 We have a moral obligation to try to raise the wages and the standard of living of our citizens first, and then we can start talking about increasing legal immigration after that.

00:39:32.000 Thank you.

00:39:39.000 Hello, Mr. Kirk.

00:39:39.000 Thank you for being here.

00:39:41.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:39:41.000 Okay.

00:39:42.000 I have more of a question.

00:39:43.000 It's more of a historical question.

00:39:47.000 The Democrats and left, they claim that Abraham Lincoln in today's America would be a liberal progressive.

00:39:53.000 And they based this claim on the fact that Abraham Lincoln wanted to abolish slavery, which was a radical idea, and it was against the traditional law at the time.

00:40:01.000 And furthermore, that he was more for the federal government and not for states' rights.

00:40:06.000 And, you know, that was what's the Civil War.

00:40:08.000 Do they have any is there any basis on this claim?

00:40:12.000 As you know, if you go to the Democratic headquarters in Washington, D.C., they have Lincoln up there.

00:40:16.000 Do they, really?

00:40:17.000 Oh, they do.

00:40:18.000 They have an exact.

00:40:19.000 He's the first Republican.

00:40:20.000 That's hilarious.

00:40:21.000 They're half right.

00:40:22.000 I mean, Lincoln and Joe Biden share some things in common.

00:40:26.000 I mean, Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, which I don't think was great, but he was at war, so you can make an argument there.

00:40:31.000 Lincoln also didn't necessarily treat Native American people very well.

00:40:35.000 But no, honestly, Lincoln is a hero.

00:40:36.000 He's one of my favorite.

00:40:37.000 I could go through all the negatives.

00:40:38.000 By the way, any historical figure, there are negatives, okay?

00:40:42.000 Moses, there were negatives.

00:40:43.000 He complained too much, okay?

00:40:45.000 Seriously, I mean, this is what drives me crazy about the removal of statues and the changing of our history, okay?

00:40:52.000 Churchill, Lincoln, Washington were flawed people that did heroic and courageous and amazing things.

00:40:58.000 But yes, I can isolate and nitpick.

00:41:03.000 Let's first be honest about Lincoln.

00:41:04.000 He was a man willing for the times.

00:41:06.000 He definitely, I will acknowledge, he bent the Constitution to be able to solve major macro unprecedented crises to keep the Union together.

00:41:15.000 Abraham Lincoln was a lot like Donald Trump, though, in nationalist, populist economic policy.

00:41:20.000 Tariffs, American workers first, make stuff here in this country.

00:41:24.000 Also, understand, Lincoln held a Democratic election during a Civil War.

00:41:29.000 Not that this is a Democrat, it's something else.

00:41:30.000 Zelensky won't hold elections right now in Ukraine.

00:41:34.000 Lincoln held an election in the midst of a war.

00:41:36.000 Pretty amazing when you think about it.

00:41:38.000 So, but here's the more important thing about Lincoln when you take a step back.

00:41:42.000 Lincoln was a very deep thinker.

00:41:43.000 He didn't go to college, so I have a soft spot for him.

00:41:46.000 He learned his worldview from Shakespeare and reading the Bible.

00:41:48.000 He was a railroad lawyer before he became a member of the Congress and, of course, president, is that Lincoln never gave up.

00:41:55.000 And Lincoln lived a very tough life.

00:41:57.000 Lincoln suffered from depression.

00:41:58.000 He had his head kicked in at a young age that actually blacked him out from a horse.

00:42:02.000 Lincoln lost a son at war.

00:42:04.000 His wife was nuts.

00:42:05.000 That's not a joke.

00:42:06.000 She was really something else.

00:42:08.000 And he never gave up.

00:42:09.000 I think Lincoln is a great role model of a man who stepped up for the time that he did not personally invite.

00:42:14.000 Lincoln did not want to have to be a leader presiding over a country that was losing hundreds of thousands of citizens on both sides, right, and trying to remedy that.

00:42:23.000 But Lincoln was the leader that we needed.

00:42:25.000 And same with Churchill.

00:42:26.000 Churchill was not the leader that people necessarily wanted before or after the war.

00:42:31.000 But praise God that Churchill was in power at that particular time.

00:42:35.000 I will say this, though.

00:42:36.000 Lincoln, he desired and looked at human beings in the essence and the promise of the Latin phrase, e pluribus unum, out of many one.

00:42:45.000 The American left does not believe in e pluribus unum.

00:42:49.000 They believe in white privilege or in black power or in critical race theory.

00:42:54.000 So the promise and the principles of Lincoln that we still hold to this day to try to strive towards some sort of colorblind, character-based moral society, that has no home right now in the American left.

00:43:06.000 And I think the Democrats should take down Abraham Lincoln and their headquarters in D.C. Thank you very much.

00:43:11.000 I appreciate it.

00:43:17.000 All right.

00:43:18.000 First things first, I'd like to say thank you so much, Mr. Kirk, for coming here.

00:43:21.000 I'm not actually a student at UCLA.

00:43:23.000 I go to the LMU.

00:43:24.000 It's a smaller private Jesuit school.

00:43:26.000 Yeah.

00:43:27.000 I figured that we'd be less pro-Hamas than some of the other Harvard schools just because of the nature.

00:43:33.000 But recently we had a protest where people were holding signs saying, quote, resistance is justified when people are occupied.

00:43:39.000 Presumably in relation to what happened on October 7th, I was just wondering, because I studied abroad with some of these people and they're good people.

00:43:47.000 How do we de-radicalize them?

00:43:48.000 And that's an LMU.

00:43:49.000 Yes.

00:43:50.000 Wow.

00:43:50.000 Okay.

00:43:51.000 Boy, so let me get this straight.

00:43:53.000 So resistance is justified when you are occupied, essentially.

00:43:57.000 Yes.

00:43:58.000 That is so morally sick, I'll be very honest, to say that going to a concert and taking host.

00:44:05.000 By the way, there's still 200 hostages, of which they won't tell us how many Americans are still being held hostage.

00:44:10.000 Like Newsflash, there's probably 20 American passport holders that are still being held hostage right now in Gaza.

00:44:16.000 Just so we're all keeping track here.

00:44:17.000 This involves America, just before anyone else says anything different.

00:44:23.000 Here's what I can't.

00:44:25.000 One of the casualties of the left, one of many, is the cheapening of language.

00:44:32.000 Racism.

00:44:33.000 Everyone's a racist, right?

00:44:34.000 It's ridiculous.

00:44:35.000 Insurrection.

00:44:37.000 Terrorism.

00:44:38.000 We have overused the terrorist label the last couple of years.

00:44:41.000 Would you agree?

00:44:42.000 So it doesn't hit the same way.

00:44:45.000 If there was ever a time to label something terrorism, it's when a bunch of maniacs go on the holiest day of the Jewish calendar and go in and put babies in the oven and chop people's heads off and mow down people at a concert.

00:45:00.000 I guarantee almost everyone in this audience has been to a concert of one shape or form.

00:45:04.000 I want you to imagine what that would be like if people just came over the hill and started opening fire on every single one of you.

00:45:10.000 That's not resistance.

00:45:12.000 That is attempted genocide.

00:45:14.000 It is morally sick for your classmates to say that.

00:45:17.000 They might be good people, but that does nothing for me.

00:45:20.000 I'll be very honest.

00:45:22.000 Don't tell me how good you are while you're supporting the modern-day actions of Arab Hitler.

00:45:27.000 Thank you very much.

00:45:35.000 This is with regards to your comments about the woke set of ideals.

00:45:40.000 So if the oppressor-oppressed mentality is so dangerous to our society, how is that supposed to be changed?

00:45:45.000 Right?

00:45:46.000 You preach the value of produce more than you complain.

00:45:48.000 So what can we produce to change the worldview of the younger generation?

00:45:51.000 It's really important.

00:45:53.000 Every single person in this room can produce two things immediately that will de-radicalize you.

00:45:59.000 You could produce a marriage and children.

00:46:04.000 Now, you do those two things.

00:46:07.000 All of a sudden, you're like, yeah, I'm all in for burning the Wendy's, but my kids got to go to bed.

00:46:14.000 People that pay mortgages are less likely to loot.

00:46:18.000 Just kind of common sense type stuff.

00:46:21.000 My worldview is not that complicated right now.

00:46:24.000 I want more people to own stuff, to be married, and have children.

00:46:28.000 That's not that overly complicated.

00:46:30.000 First of all, I think they're moral goods.

00:46:31.000 I also, I know that bad ideas start to evaporate when you're concerned with feeding a nine-month-old.

00:46:39.000 I could tell you from personal experience, okay?

00:46:42.000 And once they start walking, it's completely out of it.

00:46:45.000 It's like the game is over, right?

00:46:47.000 What I'm getting at also is we need to stop teaching it in schools, stop subsidizing it in colleges, stop making it a national ideology, and we have to do a much better job of encouraging gratitude and appreciation when we see success, not resentment and envy.

00:47:04.000 It is easy to have envy.

00:47:07.000 It is hard to be grateful.

00:47:08.000 It is.

00:47:09.000 It takes effort.

00:47:10.000 If you see somebody that has something you want and you go to Bel Air and you see a big house, it does not take effort to say, I wish I had that house.

00:47:19.000 Probably are a really, really bad person, and I'll use this example again.

00:47:23.000 We need to teach and instruct and lift up someone that would look at their house and say, boy wonder how many weekends away from home that they sacrificed, wondering how many red-eye flights they took.

00:47:33.000 I wonder, if they had to go into their savings double or triple, how many hit pieces they had to endure from dishonest journalists, how many employees that they had to fire and then rehire just to barely make payroll.

00:47:44.000 What I'm getting at is that it is so simple.

00:47:47.000 It is shallow, quite honest, to look at success and act as if they're nothing more than people that just either stumbled into it or born into it.

00:47:54.000 That's a small subset.

00:47:55.000 In a market economy, though, all of us have something to learn by people that have been able to climb that ladder.

00:48:00.000 That's hard, though, especially of an entire nation that is built right now on resentment.

00:48:05.000 Resentment gets you rewards right now.

00:48:08.000 You get rewards if you are the most talented person that communicates resentment.

00:48:14.000 And I think that's something worth thinking about.

00:48:17.000 Thank you very much.

00:48:17.000 Appreciate it.

00:48:23.000 Hello.

00:48:24.000 Hi, Mr. Kirk.

00:48:25.000 I had a question.

00:48:26.000 If you had five minutes with Margaret Singer, what would you say?

00:48:33.000 Only five minutes, yeah.

00:48:35.000 Okay, if you don't know who Margaret Sanger is, she's the founder of Planned Parenthood.

00:48:39.000 She was an outspoken eugenicist, you know, believed in racial hierarchy and supremacy.

00:48:46.000 She looked at abortion as a means to institute a white-only type nation.

00:48:54.000 She believed blacks to be inferior.

00:48:56.000 She is the founder of Planned Parenthood.

00:48:57.000 That's not an exaggeration.

00:48:59.000 You can look it up.

00:49:01.000 I think they re-put it up, but on the website of Planned Parenthood, they used to have Margaret Sanger.

00:49:05.000 She's like this big defender of all this.

00:49:07.000 And by the way, I hate to say this.

00:49:09.000 Her vision has largely been fulfilled.

00:49:13.000 58% of all abortions are done by black people in this country.

00:49:19.000 And black people compose 14% of the population, 7% of them are female, and half of them are infant-bearing age.

00:49:23.000 So 3% of the population is 58% of all the abortions.

00:49:27.000 It's something to think about.

00:49:27.000 I mean, honestly, if I had five minutes with Margaret Sanger, I mean, I would try to preach the gospel to her.

00:49:34.000 I mean, honestly, if you could save her, you'd be able to save limitless amounts of people.

00:49:38.000 Thank you very much.

00:49:43.000 Hi, I want to say thanks for being here.

00:49:45.000 Please use my pronouns, dude, Richie, guy, bro.

00:49:49.000 What's up?

00:49:50.000 Cool.

00:49:52.000 I agree with like probably 98% of your stuff.

00:49:55.000 This is very rare that I don't.

00:49:58.000 Common sense ain't that common, and people don't want to put their into her work.

00:50:03.000 And it shows.

00:50:05.000 I never collected unemployment.

00:50:07.000 I don't believe in all that crap.

00:50:08.000 But anyway, bottom point is, I got twins, 16.

00:50:12.000 Thank God they're out of the age where they're indoctrinated by the schools because they've shown me some of the stuff that's come up.

00:50:18.000 I'm in Simi Valley.

00:50:19.000 Yeah, we're kind of a tight-knit community, so it gets out if something goes wrong.

00:50:24.000 That's been changed.

00:50:26.000 But in explaining to my daughters, we started talking about the Gaza in Palestine, and they brought up the word Zionist.

00:50:33.000 And they go, what do you think?

00:50:35.000 I go look it up.

00:50:37.000 And they said, well, someone believes in Malayna.

00:50:39.000 That's the promised land.

00:50:41.000 And I go, well, shit, that kind of makes me a Zionist.

00:50:44.000 I go, but I don't think it's the same context.

00:50:46.000 I was hoping that you could elaborate.

00:50:50.000 Yeah, okay.

00:50:51.000 Yeah, so like, what is a Zionist?

00:50:53.000 I mean, there's a lot of different answers to that.

00:50:55.000 Herzl was the first person to come up with this idea of Zionism.

00:51:00.000 So I want to be very clear.

00:51:01.000 I'm not an apologist for everything the Israeli government does.

00:51:04.000 I even sent out a tweet that the IDF responded to where I didn't like that they hit a church in Gaza.

00:51:09.000 I didn't like that.

00:51:10.000 And they responded, and I thought that was constructive.

00:51:12.000 With that being said, we don't have to overthink it.

00:51:14.000 It's very simple.

00:51:15.000 The Jews deserve a homeland.

00:51:16.000 That you have 40 plus Arab Muslim majority countries in the world, and the Jews deserve one place that they can call home.

00:51:24.000 And it's very simple.

00:51:26.000 And the moral argument is this, is that Jews scattered around the world are hunted down.

00:51:35.000 They are targeted.

00:51:36.000 You see it in America.

00:51:37.000 You see it in Australia.

00:51:38.000 You see it in Europe.

00:51:39.000 And the promise after the Holocaust was never again, and that we are going to have a homeland that we can defend.

00:51:46.000 Now, they will say that it's an illegally created country.

00:51:49.000 That is not true.

00:51:50.000 You might morally not agree with it, but it was not illegally founded.

00:51:54.000 It was done with the Belfort Declaration.

00:51:56.000 There was an Arab state that was proposed and a Jewish state that was proposed.

00:52:01.000 Half of the world's Jewry lived in Israel, which has its problems.

00:52:06.000 I will fully acknowledge that.

00:52:07.000 But the promise of Israel is a very simple one, which is why is it that a country that is one-fifth the size of Florida, that has a functioning economy, you know, all three monotheistic religions represented in their government, has sovereign borders, is able to have some form or fashion of freedom of press and media with some issues.

00:52:29.000 Why is this the obsession, the pathological obsession with every Muslim in the Middle East?

00:52:36.000 And they say, oh, it's about Jerusalem because, you know, we believe that, you know, Prophet Muhammad ascended there.

00:52:41.000 Well, Jordan controls the Temple Mount.

00:52:43.000 So that's a silly argument.

00:52:45.000 And I'll be very honest.

00:52:47.000 It's the very same playbook I see unfolding here with the American Democrat Party.

00:52:51.000 And this is going to sound radical, which is you have a bunch of illegitimate leaders that don't want to deliver results for their constituency.

00:52:57.000 So they need a people to blame.

00:52:59.000 So they blame the Jews professionally.

00:53:02.000 And it's exactly what the American left does with conservatives.

00:53:05.000 They call us fascists all day long.

00:53:07.000 And for that, we have something really in common.

00:53:09.000 So look, there's a lot of people that use Zionism as a slur.

00:53:12.000 I'm not an apologist for the Israeli government.

00:53:14.000 I'm happy to go through things that I disagree with them on that I wish they wouldn't have done.

00:53:18.000 But the best way I can summarize what Zionism is is that Jews deserve a homeland the same way that Muslims have 40 majority Arab Muslim countries in the Middle East.

00:53:29.000 Thank you very much.

00:53:30.000 Thank you.

00:53:31.000 One quick question.

00:53:32.000 One quick question.

00:53:34.000 Is it...

00:53:35.000 Sorry, we've got to get to the next question.

00:53:36.000 I'm sorry, man.

00:53:36.000 Thank you.

00:53:37.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:53:37.000 Hi, I'm so happy you're here.

00:53:39.000 I'm from Santa Barbara, and I heard you were coming down here, and I raced down here.

00:53:43.000 Thank you for being here.

00:53:48.000 What response can I give to anyone who asked me how could I agree with your views about strengthening the borders and the southern border when my family, including my mom, came into the country illegally?

00:54:01.000 Even though, like, you know, she became successful, I still agree with what you say, and she may not, and family that came illegally may not.

00:54:09.000 You know, it's amazing.

00:54:10.000 First of all, your life is a lot more than what your parents did, that you are your own sovereign person.

00:54:17.000 I love people so much that, to be honest with you, I want to protect the country that you came to.

00:54:23.000 And I think that's why you agree with what I did, with what I've been saying.

00:54:27.000 And so I think I want to just reiterate something, though, that you agree with what I said, and your parents, you know, your parents came here illegally.

00:54:35.000 That speaks very highly of you.

00:54:37.000 I have to be very honest.

00:54:38.000 I'm incredibly impressed.

00:54:41.000 That's a big deal.

00:54:43.000 And I'm really impressed that you want this country to remain as strong as possible.

00:54:50.000 And I think, you know, you're not the first person to have said this.

00:54:53.000 Somebody came up to the event.

00:54:54.000 They said once, they said, Charlie, I came to this country illegally.

00:54:57.000 You know, I think we should close the border and, you know, deport people that came here illegally.

00:55:00.000 I said, that's really interesting.

00:55:03.000 And it's also, it's about the welfare of the nation you care about, really, when it comes down to it.

00:55:08.000 So I don't think it's hypocrisy at all.

00:55:10.000 You want what's best for America.

00:55:12.000 You want what's best for the nation.

00:55:13.000 And I also just think it's, again, I will repeat what I said.

00:55:19.000 It would be easy for you to say, I don't agree with what he's rationally presenting because of a bias I have with my parents.

00:55:26.000 What is right is right, regardless of what your parents do or do not do.

00:55:30.000 And so God bless you for holding that position.

00:55:32.000 I'll be honest, like, if somebody breaks a law, the question is, do they want that law repealed?

00:55:42.000 And if they say no, then it actually says a lot about their character.

00:55:46.000 Thank you very much.

00:55:53.000 Thanks for coming here, Charlie, and speaking with us.

00:55:55.000 I want to open by saying my question is pertinent to my own situation, I guess, because I am currently in the Marine Corps.

00:56:05.000 Thank you for your service.

00:56:10.000 My hair is out of regulation right now, but you have to believe me.

00:56:16.000 So you commented on not playing the victim in life, which is something I learned through my experience in the Marine Corps.

00:56:22.000 But it seems that given the current situation, the attacks on October 7th, I feel like the Nation of Israel might have been doing that in sense of referring to the attacks as Israel's 9-11 while simultaneously funding Hamas.

00:56:38.000 If this is Israel's 9-11, which we used our own 9-11 to fund decades of war to fill the pockets of military contractors, how do we look at what's going on right now and avoid making the same mistake?

00:56:52.000 Yeah, I get that question.

00:56:53.000 So I want to make sure I'm very morally clear here.

00:56:57.000 Sometimes you are a victim, right?

00:56:59.000 If you get shot on the streets of L.A., you are a victim.

00:57:03.000 The problem is we have a supply and demand problem with victimology in the West.

00:57:07.000 We have a bunch of people that are incredibly blessed walking around acting like victims because somebody said something that offended them, okay?

00:57:14.000 So of course, sometimes you are a victim.

00:57:17.000 When you wake up on your holiest day and 1,500 of your fellow Jews are slaughtered, that you are the victim of terrorism.

00:57:24.000 I'll just be very honest.

00:57:25.000 And that's the equivalent of 50,000 Americans.

00:57:29.000 And I will also say, though, that to Israel's credit, they're taking matters into their own hands.

00:57:34.000 And while they are trying to, of course, encourage and increase sympathy for their cause, it's now Hamas that's playing the victim.

00:57:42.000 It's now Hamas that says, oh, stop bombing us.

00:57:44.000 Stop doing all this.

00:57:46.000 And I'll be honest, it falls on deaf ears for me.

00:57:47.000 It's like, wait a second, did you not launch an unprompted attack into civilian corridors, into homes and schools and nurseries on a holy day?

00:57:56.000 So, you know, spare me your cattlewalling.

00:57:59.000 You guys were the ones that launched this war, and war is nasty, war is awful, and they're saying they'll do it again.

00:58:05.000 The Hamas leader comes out and he says, just a matter of time until every single day is October 7th.

00:58:09.000 To your point, which I really resonate with, is that I'm not a neoconservative.

00:58:13.000 I do not believe our foreign policy should be an instrument to remake foreign countries in a quote-unquote Western image.

00:58:19.000 I think that the Iraq and the Afghanistan war teach us that.

00:58:22.000 And I think we need to be, that's why in my remarks, I emphasize the border, what's happening in our own country.

00:58:28.000 We need to balance what's happening in Israel, which is obviously important, but also understand that we have some serious problems here in this country.

00:58:35.000 And I do not like when leaders focus more time, energy, and attention on foreign conflicts than our own.

00:58:40.000 Putting the Israel one aside, I think it is indefensible that people in both political parties have spent $200 billion on the Russian-Ukraine war, and we can't get a border wall financed to prevent people from coming into our country.

00:58:54.000 Thank you very much.

00:58:55.000 Thank you.

00:58:59.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:59:00.000 Thank you for coming.

00:59:01.000 I'm a huge fan.

00:59:02.000 Yesterday, I was bored in class, so I decided to go to the bathroom.

00:59:07.000 That's a great trick.

00:59:08.000 I just used it many times.

00:59:09.000 I was on the urinal.

00:59:10.000 I saw a sticker above the urinal that said, Do not deposit menstrual hygiene products in the toilet.

00:59:17.000 Use container provided for this purpose, UCLA sticker.

00:59:21.000 What does this mean for school and especially in California moving forward, especially like 20 years from now?

00:59:27.000 What's going to happen?

00:59:29.000 I don't want my kids raised here in school.

00:59:31.000 I feel bad for everyone.

00:59:33.000 All you guys are going to stay in LA and are going to have to go through this.

00:59:36.000 So you're getting out.

00:59:37.000 Right after I graduate, I'm finishing early so I can move to Florida.

00:59:40.000 Yeah, God bless you.

00:59:46.000 I mean, I could make kind of a smart Alec joke.

00:59:50.000 Yeah, that's a get-out-of-dodge type sign, right?

00:59:53.000 I mean, at that point, you say, reason is no more.

00:59:56.000 I got to go to Fort Lauderdale, right?

00:59:57.000 I mean, at that point, you're just, I mean, it is.

01:00:01.000 How did we get here, though?

01:00:03.000 A very, very vocal minority that prioritizes feelings over reality will not stop till they conquer every square inch of our being.

01:00:12.000 No, really, like, what does that sign accomplish exactly?

01:00:16.000 It's a reminder.

01:00:18.000 It's a reminder to you.

01:00:20.000 It's a reminder that they're in charge and you better not misgender them.

01:00:24.000 It's a reminder that you better not question them coming after children.

01:00:28.000 That is not about hygiene products.

01:00:31.000 No, no, no, no.

01:00:32.000 That right there is no different than conquered land.

01:00:36.000 Flags.

01:00:37.000 We're in charge.

01:00:38.000 When you conquer an enemy territory, you fly the flag.

01:00:41.000 And it now looks like a warning that says, please dispose your feminine products in a men's room.

01:00:48.000 Please.

01:00:51.000 What is the equivalent going to be of this in 20 years from now?

01:00:53.000 Because it's just getting more and more every year.

01:00:56.000 I mean, look, there's two authors that haven't been wrong yet.

01:01:00.000 Orwell is the most quoted.

01:01:01.000 Huxley is the least quoted.

01:01:03.000 Read Aladys Huxley's book, Brave New World, and it's not good.

01:01:07.000 It is the complete demolition of sexual boundaries and barriers, no differences between men and women, the mass medication of society that they call Soma in the book Brave New World.

01:01:19.000 Everybody belongs to everybody is the phrase that they would use in Huxley's world.

01:01:25.000 It is, it's dystopian.

01:01:27.000 And if you, you know, the argument some people make, but Charlie, how does that bother you?

01:01:31.000 How does that sign impact you?

01:01:34.000 I don't like lies, and you shouldn't either.

01:01:37.000 That right there is a lie against nature.

01:01:40.000 It's a lie against goodness and decency.

01:01:43.000 And again, it's also an intentional provocation.

01:01:47.000 They're trying to provoke people to act insane and to act in a certain way.

01:01:52.000 Again, as a reminder that they're in charge and you aren't.

01:01:55.000 Where does it go in 20 years?

01:01:56.000 Where does it go in two years, man?

01:01:58.000 I mean, we have people at the White House that are, you know, stripping down as trans people on the front lawn with two pride flags and the American flag in the middle.

01:02:10.000 I have no idea where it heads, but we're just beginning that descent into moral abyss and chaos.

01:02:16.000 All the more reason why we need more events like this and people to speak out.

01:02:19.000 Thank you very much.

01:02:20.000 Thank you.

01:02:26.000 Hey, how's it going, Charlie?

01:02:27.000 And that hair is so impressive, I got to tell you.

01:02:29.000 Thank you, guys.

01:02:30.000 That's like Will Farrell.

01:02:31.000 Like, that's awesome.

01:02:32.000 I was called Richard Simmons the other day, but that's.

01:02:35.000 I didn't take that as a compliment.

01:02:38.000 Yeah.

01:02:39.000 So I'm a believer in Western secular values.

01:02:44.000 I don't believe in a theocracy or an ethno-state.

01:02:46.000 And I believe that Israel should have a right to defend itself.

01:02:50.000 But you said that the Jewish people should have a right to a state.

01:02:53.000 And yet, part of a lot of the conservative support for Israel has come from the fact that they are a Western country in the Middle East, or at least that they share values with the United States.

01:03:03.000 How can you support a theocracy or an ethno-state in the Middle East while still saying that the reason that we should support it is because it has Western values?

01:03:12.000 And in addition to that, if you had to continue funding Israel, would you make the funding contingent on them changing the 70-30 law, which keeps the population of Israel at 70% Jewish people, 30% non-Jewish people, things like the admissions committees law, tax laws, residency laws, et cetera?

01:03:31.000 Well, no, the answer is no.

01:03:33.000 The question is, do you want it to remain a Jewish state?

01:03:35.000 You remove those things, it would no longer be a Jewish state.

01:03:37.000 My language was very specific.

01:03:39.000 I said the Jews deserve a homeland, right?

01:03:41.000 And they do.

01:03:42.000 They deserve a place, a gathering, a state.

01:03:45.000 All those words are interchangeable.

01:03:46.000 It's fine.

01:03:46.000 But I think it's very important to reiterate that.

01:03:48.000 Secondly, you ask, well, how could I support Israel?

01:03:53.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily, I'll be honest, there's a lot that Israel does, I don't like.

01:03:56.000 I don't like that they're having these massive gay pride parades in downtown Tel Aviv.

01:04:00.000 I think that's a bad argument to support Israel, to be honest.

01:04:04.000 No, I think, honestly, I have Israel envy in a lot of different ways, though.

01:04:07.000 I love that they have borders.

01:04:09.000 I love that they're able to deport people that come to their country and mean them harm, which is what they did to a bunch of African migrants that started looting in downtown Tel Aviv.

01:04:17.000 They're like, oh, immigrants' rights.

01:04:18.000 Like, they deported them immediately.

01:04:20.000 So look, Israel was constituted as a Jewish state, explicitly as a Jewish state, which is both ethnic and religious.

01:04:28.000 And put all of the things aside, you and I would both agree that it's probably a good idea not to interfere with a country that rightfully is able to win over land after they've been attacked.

01:04:40.000 You would agree with that, right?

01:04:41.000 For example, we shouldn't give back Texas to Mexico, stuff like that, right?

01:04:44.000 Not necessarily, but I'm sure the point of your argument I'm saying.

01:04:47.000 Yeah, again, California shouldn't be part of, you know, things like that.

01:04:50.000 Israel was attacked from every direction right at their founding in 1948.

01:04:54.000 And they fought and won.

01:04:56.000 They earned that homeland.

01:04:57.000 And they were attacked again in the six-day war.

01:04:59.000 They were attacked again in 1973, right?

01:05:01.000 And they fought and won.

01:05:03.000 So they've proven the ability to not just exist, but to earn the right to have the nation as constituted as it is.

01:05:11.000 You have a follow-up?

01:05:12.000 Yeah.

01:05:13.000 Because in every single Arab-Israeli war, they won with massive amounts of funding from France, Britain, and the U.S. Does that make a difference to you?

01:05:20.000 Or do you think that we should, how does that change your thought process, or does it not change it at all?

01:05:26.000 It doesn't change it.

01:05:27.000 No.

01:05:27.000 It doesn't change it.

01:05:28.000 Look, I'll reiterate this, is that the Jews have a rightful place to their homeland, that there's massive amounts of, again, 40 Arab countries, of which it's very funny.

01:05:39.000 I will, not you, but some people say, well, I want Palestine to be free.

01:05:42.000 Okay, what country in the Middle East is the model for freedom?

01:05:45.000 Like, can you, maybe you could tell me, I don't know, like, Saudi Arabia?

01:05:50.000 Yeah, so if you're talking about individual rights, which I don't think is on the table, then most countries in the Middle East are free.

01:05:56.000 Like, they have sovereignty, right?

01:05:57.000 Oh, okay.

01:05:58.000 So if it's sovereignty, I mean, I will say, how did Gaza not have sovereignty on October 6th?

01:06:03.000 Like, what characteristics?

01:06:05.000 So Israel obviously controlled basically everything surrounding Gaza, their maritime space, their airspace, the embargo, their trade.

01:06:13.000 Israel is embargoed by Arab countries all the time.

01:06:16.000 We wouldn't say Israel is...

01:06:17.000 Well, Israel isn't essentially landlocked by Israel.

01:06:22.000 Israel is landlocked by adversarial Arab countries.

01:06:25.000 Of course they are.

01:06:25.000 Yeah, but Gaza doesn't have billions of dollars of funding from the Israel.

01:06:28.000 No, they have hundreds of millions.

01:06:29.000 You're right, from the West.

01:06:30.000 Yeah, hundreds of millions of dollars in funding that goes straight to Hamas.

01:06:34.000 That's not used for humanitarian aid.

01:06:35.000 So it's not really used for rockets and military weaponry.

01:06:40.000 We agree then, right?

01:06:41.000 But let me ask you this.

01:06:42.000 If Israel's mission is to liberate the people of Gaza from Hamas, do you support that?

01:06:47.000 I believe the question was, you said should Palestine be free?

01:06:52.000 Well, the question is, what do you mean by free?

01:06:53.000 I think it's funny that we're being lectured by Arab Muslims about freedom.

01:06:58.000 Where, like, what are you, like, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, like, Jordan, Egypt?

01:07:02.000 Like, what exactly is the beacon of freedom in the Middle East?

01:07:06.000 What they're trying to say is they don't want Israel to be in charge, which is, again, that's what you had on October 6th.

01:07:13.000 They had their own government.

01:07:15.000 They had their own elections that they decided to no longer do.

01:07:17.000 They had hundreds of millions of dollars in Western support.

01:07:20.000 They could have instituted a free market economy with private property rights.

01:07:23.000 And the blockade thing is weak.

01:07:25.000 Israel is blockaded by dozens of countries all the time.

01:07:28.000 BDS are literal sanctions on Israel.

01:07:31.000 So if sanctions and embargoes make a country poorer, then why on earth was Israel so successful?

01:07:37.000 No, it's because the government of Gaza refused and never wanted to actually take responsibility for their citizens, Hamas.

01:07:45.000 They'd rather just use it as a non-stop terroristic military operation against the people of Israel.

01:07:50.000 Jews.

01:07:52.000 Thank you.

01:07:57.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:07:58.000 Why do you think U.S. is putting more interest in Israel than the suffering oldest Christian country in the world?

01:08:05.000 Is it because Israel is serving more purpose for the U.S. interest in the region, or is it just a coincidence?

01:08:11.000 It's largely because of Turkey.

01:08:12.000 First of all, I stand with Armenia 100%.

01:08:14.000 It's so wrong what's happening to Armenia.

01:08:15.000 It's unbelievable.

01:08:16.000 It's so wrong.

01:08:17.000 And there was an Armenian genocide, and Turkish money, influence, and lobbying has tried to whitewash it out of history.

01:08:24.000 And it's one of the sickest things that have happened.

01:08:27.000 So it's because of Turkey, 100%.

01:08:29.000 Turkey's part of NATO, so we play footsie with Turkey.

01:08:31.000 Whether Turkey should be part of NATO or not is a completely separate topic.

01:08:35.000 I think it's kind of silly that you have a NATO, NATO member that is that militantly Islamist.

01:08:42.000 But honestly, too, the Azerbaijan lobby is incredibly powerful in Washington, D.C.

01:08:47.000 And Armenia has kind of become this forgotten country.

01:08:50.000 Armenian Christians are being cleansed by neighbors literally in Azerbaijan.

01:08:54.000 And I had a guest on our podcast.

01:08:56.000 We talk about it.

01:08:58.000 Look, Israel gets a lot of the attention in the headlines.

01:09:01.000 Just so everyone knows, 120,000 Christians were displaced from their homeland in Armenia forcefully by Azerbaijan recently.

01:09:09.000 So I'm right there with you.

01:09:11.000 But you should ask Chenk Unger, whatever his name is, why he doesn't support Armenia and why he's named his media organization after something that's the moral equivalent of Hitler Youth.

01:09:20.000 I'm a Kurd, by the way.

01:09:22.000 I'm a Kurd.

01:09:23.000 Oh, you're a Kurd.

01:09:24.000 God bless you.

01:09:24.000 Okay, great.

01:09:25.000 Thank you very much.

01:09:26.000 We'll take a couple more, everybody.

01:09:27.000 If you disagree, come to the front of the line.

01:09:29.000 We'll take a couple more.

01:09:30.000 You guys have been so patient.

01:09:31.000 You guys have been awesome.

01:09:33.000 Hi, I currently go to UCLA and I'm a transfer student.

01:09:36.000 And when I transferred here last year, I had so many friends and even joined a sorority.

01:09:40.000 But once they found out I was Republican, they completely dropped me.

01:09:44.000 And now I still have honestly like no friends here.

01:09:49.000 I was wondering if you have any advice for Republican students that go to liberal schools like UCLA.

01:09:54.000 Well, you got to meet our turning point USA chapter right here.

01:09:57.000 They do such a great job.

01:10:03.000 Yeah, I mean, girls can be very nasty.

01:10:05.000 That is wrong that you're treated that way.

01:10:05.000 I got to be honest.

01:10:09.000 But no, we'd be happy to help you at Turning Point USA.

01:10:12.000 This is not going to be comforting, but long term it will.

01:10:14.000 It's a good thing that happened.

01:10:16.000 First of all, it will make you tougher.

01:10:17.000 Second of all, you'll pick your friends now based on a value system, and you'll have true friends that see the world the way you do.

01:10:24.000 Which I want to be very clear.

01:10:28.000 It is bad for humanity that you can't have friends with different political views.

01:10:34.000 I think that is a very disappointing.

01:10:39.000 And honestly, if we as conservatives drop friends because of their political views, that's not acceptable.

01:10:44.000 I don't see it happening.

01:10:45.000 Whenever I ask young people, they say, oh, do you have any liberal friends?

01:10:48.000 Oh, I used to.

01:10:49.000 They stopped being friends.

01:10:50.000 I'm sure you guys are all that way, right?

01:10:53.000 That is the opposite of tolerance.

01:10:54.000 So meet some of our turning point kids.

01:10:56.000 Be happy to help you.

01:10:56.000 Thank you.

01:10:58.000 All right, we'll do two more.

01:11:01.000 All right, Charlie, my name is Jonathan Valencia.

01:11:04.000 I'm 21 years old.

01:11:05.000 It's an honor to be right here.

01:11:06.000 Thank you.

01:11:08.000 I have a brief question.

01:11:09.000 How do we get the young people, especially like my generation, you know, probably the most arrogant and ignorant ever in the history of the U.S.

01:11:19.000 Well, the question is, how do we get these people to start caring about the country where we live instead of caring about foreign problems?

01:11:27.000 I get it, Israel, Palestine, Ukraine, all that stuff.

01:11:31.000 But come on, man, we got like narcos roaming around, thugs.

01:11:35.000 I see, I drive.

01:11:37.000 Come on, we all live in SoCal.

01:11:39.000 Every block has more than two homeless.

01:11:41.000 Like, come on, that's horrible.

01:11:43.000 But I guess let's care about outside countries.

01:11:46.000 I'm a Hispanic, and I still agree that the borders should be closed.

01:11:50.000 Like, any country should have borders, you know?

01:11:55.000 And to top off, I know my parents are Salvadorians.

01:12:00.000 I know you know Naibuke.

01:12:02.000 I know you know him.

01:12:03.000 Yeah, there's a lot of gangbangers that are now in prison now because do you like what he's doing?

01:12:07.000 I love it.

01:12:08.000 Even though they say, oh, he's so harsh, I don't care.

01:12:10.000 Now the country is awesome.

01:12:11.000 You can party at 3 a.m.

01:12:13.000 Come on.

01:12:14.000 So, first of all, let me just say you represent a window into something very exciting happening in this country, which is Hispanics are moving in the conservative direction in record-record numbers.

01:12:25.000 And it is really amazing.

01:12:29.000 And you're people of faith, hardworking, and also just common sense.

01:12:34.000 But the issue that I want to just implore conservatives to get right on is crime.

01:12:40.000 Hispanic families came to this country, some of them from Central America, from very dangerous countries, and they don't want to raise their kids in an equally as dangerous country where you have to pay off the cartel guy or you have to have the right person.

01:12:53.000 That is not why a lot of people came here.

01:12:56.000 And as long as the left is for opening up prisons and relaxing this stuff, I think they're going to keep on losing with Hispanics big time.

01:13:02.000 And I think you could tell me: is the idea that men give birth popular in the El Salvadorian community?

01:13:09.000 I think if I said that at dinner with my parents, they'll probably kick me off.

01:13:13.000 Yeah.

01:13:15.000 Well, this is one of the windows that I think we need to look through very carefully: is that white upper-middle-class, college-educated wokeism is not consistent with the values of Hispanic and black Americans.

01:13:29.000 And we're finally seeing that come to a surface.

01:13:32.000 Where people that have an attachment to traditional normal values that didn't necessarily go to Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford are saying, that makes no sense.

01:13:41.000 Why don't we have a border?

01:13:43.000 And they're tired of being like, you're a racist.

01:13:45.000 And then you say, no, actually, I'm El Salvadorian, right?

01:13:50.000 And final thought.

01:13:52.000 Well, Charlie, just keep doing what you're doing.

01:13:54.000 If you were to be president, you'd be the best president ever.

01:13:57.000 Oh, you're very.

01:13:58.000 And I want to say, make America great again.

01:14:01.000 Sign about Lorenzo for Trump.

01:14:07.000 All right.

01:14:08.000 I think we have one more.

01:14:10.000 This will be the final question.

01:14:11.000 Great.

01:14:12.000 I love that.

01:14:13.000 It's amazing.

01:14:13.000 Yes.

01:14:14.000 I'm sorry, yes.

01:14:15.000 Thanks for coming, by the way.

01:14:17.000 And interesting, I have to say, I'm what we would consider progressive, but I always try to come and hear what other people want to say.

01:14:25.000 Anyway, you made a claim that the family is the bedrock of a civilized society or a productive society.

01:14:33.000 How do you define a family?

01:14:34.000 Because in the 250,000 years that humans have existed on this planet, the nuclear family where you had a single breadwinner, 2.6 children, and a white picket fence, is barely 100 years old.

01:14:50.000 It's a post-war phenomenon based on the wealth after World War II.

01:14:56.000 So would you consider a family, a same-sex couple, for example, a legitimate family that provides this bedrock for society?

01:15:06.000 And also, you know, we can also remember that interracial families were once illegal as well.

01:15:10.000 So the idea of a family has changed in human history.

01:15:14.000 It used to be extended.

01:15:15.000 Anyway, your thoughts on what the family is.

01:15:18.000 So first, has it changed?

01:15:20.000 Well, you disappeared.

01:15:21.000 Okay.

01:15:25.000 No, it's okay.

01:15:25.000 I mean, in the Ten Commandments, what does it say about family?

01:15:29.000 Well, in the Bible, one of the main characters in the Bible not only had many wives and consorts.

01:15:39.000 So polygamy was a big thing in the Bible.

01:15:44.000 So it didn't end well for Solomon.

01:15:45.000 In fact, the lesson is it ended in madness and disarray and despair.

01:15:50.000 And it's quite a lesson that, you know, do not engage in your moral impulses.

01:15:53.000 But what I'm saying is I'm just rejecting a little bit you're saying.

01:15:55.000 The nuclear family, honor your mother and father.

01:15:59.000 Hmm.

01:16:00.000 That's the first time in an ancient text, by the way, where both the mother and father were equals.

01:16:06.000 The family goes all the way back to creation.

01:16:08.000 So it's not this new phenomenon.

01:16:09.000 It literally says honor both your mother and father.

01:16:12.000 Marriage is a human universal.

01:16:14.000 And yeah, I'm not really, I'm pro-traditional marriage, if that's your question.

01:16:19.000 I believe that marriage is one man, one woman, if that's your question.

01:16:25.000 So you're also limiting that to the definition of a family, right?

01:16:28.000 Because pre-World War II, a family was multi-generational.

01:16:34.000 They had cousins and so on living.

01:16:37.000 And also in many human cultures, and you can find this through Jared Diamond's research and so on.

01:16:44.000 He's a UCLA professor.

01:16:45.000 The kids were cared for by a communal relationship among the women.

01:16:50.000 And again, many wives, I'm sorry, the family was not one man and one woman.

01:16:58.000 It was one man and a few women.

01:17:01.000 And that has been a characteristic of families in history all over the world.

01:17:09.000 And they were successful families as well.

01:17:12.000 I mean, I'm sorry, successful societies were based on that kind of principle.

01:17:15.000 Which society?

01:17:17.000 Egypt.

01:17:18.000 Egypt was a successful society?

01:17:22.000 Well, I mean, how do you define success?

01:17:24.000 I mean, it was certainly existed for 2,000 years.

01:17:27.000 The Greek society existed for 1,000 years.

01:17:30.000 They didn't have any problems with homosexuality.

01:17:32.000 Oh, yeah, they did.

01:17:34.000 Not entirely.

01:17:35.000 There's a lot of history there that we could go through.

01:17:37.000 But the point is, the idea of this one man, one woman concept.

01:17:41.000 Well, hold on.

01:17:42.000 I mean, I don't want to go too deep in this, but Western society is built on monogamy.

01:17:46.000 The Romans believed in monogamy, just so we're clear.

01:17:48.000 And all of Christian society is built.

01:17:50.000 I don't want to go too far into this, but let's just kind of build out one thing, and then we can leave it and just have clarity and not agreement, is that all that's a fun philosophical debate.

01:17:59.000 But what's happening here is a completely new phenomenon, which is very important to pinpoint, which is that the kid has no parent.

01:18:07.000 We could talk about community or the uncle and the aunt and the grandfather raising the child, which by the way, I kind of support the intergenerational home for the record.

01:18:15.000 I think it's pretty awesome.

01:18:16.000 I think it's one of the things that we've lost where we just kind of put our elderly into a home.

01:18:20.000 I think that's actually a really moral, let's just say, retreat.

01:18:25.000 But I will just mention what's happening now is 75% of black youth are raised without a father in the home.

01:18:35.000 Is that a concern for you as a progressive?

01:18:39.000 Yes, of course it's a concern because I think that there's economic handicaps that occur from those situations.

01:18:47.000 However, do you discount that?

01:18:51.000 You don't have to be rich to stay with the person you impregnate.

01:18:55.000 Do you discount that a single female can raise a successful member of the society?

01:19:02.000 Of course they can, but you know, because you're well-read, that a single female is more likely to have a child that ends up in prison, does not graduate high school, and joins a gang because they need a father figure around.

01:19:13.000 Dad's there to say no.

01:19:14.000 Dad is there to raise both a woman in many different ways, but more than not, to find the type of ideal man that one day she might marry and spend the rest of her life with, and to raise a son to say no to his aggression and his sexual impulses and desires, and to raise with discipline and self-control.

01:19:31.000 God bless single mothers.

01:19:32.000 Of course they are, but every single metric shows that single mothers are not just overwhelmed, that the children that they raise are more likely to engage in the habits that we don't like.

01:19:42.000 All right, but I think single mothers in this society don't have the resources they could.

01:19:46.000 No, that's not true.

01:19:47.000 We give them $70,000 to $80,000 a year in benefits.

01:19:50.000 It's not a thing about stuff.

01:19:51.000 Where do you get that statistic?

01:19:52.000 The federal government.

01:19:53.000 What do you think?

01:19:53.000 SNAP, Medicaid, Housing, Urban Development, the annualized cost of a benefit is inflation-adjusted is $70,000 a year.

01:20:00.000 Look, the people that get the most welfare in this country are...

01:20:04.000 Don't change the topic.

01:20:05.000 No, Come on to you.

01:20:07.000 Don't do that.

01:20:08.000 Hold on a second.

01:20:08.000 Let's welfare.

01:20:10.000 But you know, I just want to say, do you agree with Barack Obama, yes or no, that black dads not being around has been a moral disgrace in the black community?

01:20:18.000 I don't know if I would use those a moral disgrace.

01:20:21.000 I think it's a problem that needs solving, and I think there are economic reasons why that is occurring.

01:20:26.000 Or is it cultural?

01:20:28.000 In the black community, it is acceptable for a man to stay an infant and impregnate a woman and abandon that woman.

01:20:34.000 That's a cultural problem in the black community.

01:20:37.000 There's entire rap genres built around that.

01:20:40.000 It is not in other cultures, specifically Asian cultures, let's use that one.

01:20:47.000 It is shameful to impregnate a woman and to abandon that woman.

01:20:51.000 It is considered normal in mainstream black society for a black man to impregnate a female and never see her again.

01:20:59.000 And there's a lot of suffering because of that.

01:21:01.000 And we have a choice.

01:21:02.000 Do we pander to those blacks and say, let's just give you more stuff?

01:21:05.000 Or say, you know what?

01:21:07.000 No, it's not acceptable, black men, to go around and spread your seed and not be around with your partner and raise that son or daughter to be a person filled with virtue and discipline.

01:21:18.000 Let me follow up.

01:21:19.000 There are lots of single white men, lots of single men of all races who abandon their children.

01:21:25.000 Yes, but it's just blacks do it 75% of the time.

01:21:29.000 That's the focus of every major institution.

01:21:31.000 We burned down the Summer of Love, Floyda Palooza.

01:21:35.000 We're going to do reparations here in California.

01:21:37.000 Okay, if everything's going to be about race, game on.

01:21:40.000 Why don't you talk about why black men don't stay with the women they impregnate?

01:21:44.000 If the whole country is configured about affirmative action and more black pilots and white people can't get into this school, all right, you guys want to talk about that?

01:21:52.000 Why don't you go to the one thing that could actually solve black poverty that works in the Asian community, in the Jewish community, in the Vietnamese community, every community, which is dads stay around.

01:22:04.000 I think that you're pointing to the wrong cause of that in many cases.

01:22:10.000 What is the cause?

01:22:12.000 I believe that there's systemic racism in this society that causes some of it.

01:22:17.000 Not all of it.

01:22:18.000 Not all of it.

01:22:19.000 Okay.

01:22:20.000 I'll give you an example.

01:22:21.000 I'll give you some examples.

01:22:23.000 What can I do that a black person can't do?

01:22:26.000 When black criminals, black defendants, let's call them defendants, appear.

01:22:32.000 Okay.

01:22:33.000 Hey, everyone.

01:22:34.000 No, this is a statistic.

01:22:36.000 I don't have the exact numbers.

01:22:38.000 But when an African-American defendant comes in front of a judge, they are less likely to be able to plead down their case from a felony to a misdemeanor.

01:22:49.000 Now, when you get a felony on your record, that is the beginning of serious problems, economic problems for that person.

01:22:56.000 They can't get a job.

01:22:58.000 They can't get good jobs because if you're a felon, you're restricted from a lot of opportunities in this culture.

01:23:04.000 And again, the justice department, the justice system across the United States is shown to give less leniency towards African-American defendants.

01:23:15.000 That's a fact.

01:23:16.000 And once you start on that economic path, that's why you have, in some cases, not all.

01:23:22.000 I'm not going to sit there and be an apologist for every African-American male, but I will say there are aspects of this society that damage those people.

01:23:33.000 So it's about quality of legal representation that transcends color.

01:23:37.000 If LeBron James, his son, Bronnie James, was brought in charge for a felony charge, he'd have great legal representation and the color would mean nothing.

01:23:45.000 You would agree?

01:23:46.000 Yes, sir.

01:23:46.000 I definitely agree.

01:23:47.000 Okay, so therefore, a poor white person in Bakersfield who might be brought up for a felony charge, who might not have good legal representation, very well might have the same difficulty that someone from Compton does.

01:23:59.000 So we have a choice.

01:24:00.000 We can.

01:24:01.000 Hold on, but instead of saying, you know, they really get different sentencing, how about this?

01:24:06.000 Stop committing crimes.

01:24:10.000 Like, oh, I feel so bad that, you know, this guy, I know he shot up a, you know, he shot up a home and killed two people, but he really got a tougher sentence than the white guy.

01:24:22.000 Like, yeah, you're not winning me over with that, actually.

01:24:24.000 Here's the thing: 50 plus percent of all murders are done by black men.

01:24:30.000 They are 7% of the population, and they do more than half of all the killing in this country.

01:24:35.000 I am not going to pander and use, oh, I feel your pain and white privilege and sentencing stuff.

01:24:41.000 How about you stop murdering so many people?

01:24:45.000 I totally agree.

01:24:46.000 They commit a crime.

01:24:47.000 They do the time.

01:24:48.000 Okay, I'm not excusing that fact.

01:24:52.000 But when you have a justice system, and we're not talking about murders, we're not talking about those crimes.

01:24:58.000 We're talking about, in many cases, petty theft or theft of some sort.

01:25:03.000 We don't even prosecute that anymore.

01:25:06.000 Okay, that may be changing.

01:25:07.000 I'm not saying the statistics show that the Justice Department, I'm sorry, the justice system in this country harms minorities more than because they commit more crimes.

01:25:21.000 No, it's they come up for the same crime.

01:25:24.000 Oh, really?

01:25:25.000 What percentage of murders do white males commit?

01:25:28.000 I'm not talking about murders.

01:25:29.000 Okay, well, that's a pretty important one, isn't it?

01:25:32.000 How about arson?

01:25:33.000 What percentage of arson or robbery or rape?

01:25:36.000 I'm talking about articles.

01:25:37.000 I could go through the whole list, and I'm not saying that blacks are doing it because they're black.

01:25:41.000 I'm saying they're doing it when you don't have a father around.

01:25:44.000 You are more likely to enter that cycle of violence.

01:25:47.000 So we go back to where we started.

01:25:50.000 All right, Garrett.

01:25:51.000 Okay, thank you very much.

01:25:53.000 We don't see things the same way.

01:25:54.000 Thank you.

01:25:55.000 Okay.

01:25:56.000 Well, that was fun, everybody.

01:25:58.000 So mostly peaceful, as they would say.

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01:26:03.000 A final thing.

01:26:04.000 I know there's a lot of unease.

01:26:05.000 People say, Charlie, what can I do?

01:26:07.000 I've done everything.

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01:26:17.000 We need decent and good people to fight.

01:26:21.000 Never give up.

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01:26:23.000 God bless you guys.

01:26:24.000 Thank you so much.

01:26:33.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 12, 2023

The Failed Values System of the Left - LIVE from UCLA

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