The Charlie Kirk Show - The Fall of Kevin McCarthy? with Kurt Schlichter

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:00.000 The speaker vote is done and we are in chaos, but this conversation is more important than ever with Kurt Schlichter as we go through it in real time.

00:00:07.000 Enjoy.

00:00:08.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:00:10.000 Go to members.charlikirk.com.

00:00:12.000 That is members.charlikirk.com to listen advertiser-free and just go to charliekirk.com.

00:00:18.000 You can find members only content and so much more.

00:00:20.000 CharlieKirk.com.

00:00:22.000 Email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:00:24.000 Get involved with turning pointusa at tpusa.com.

00:00:28.000 That is tpusa.com.

00:00:29.000 Start a high school or college chapter today at tpusa.com.

00:00:34.000 Email me as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:00:37.000 Buckle up everybody here.

00:00:38.000 We go.

00:00:38.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:40.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:42.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:45.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:49.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:50.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:51.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

00:00:58.000 Turning point USA. 0.65

00:00:59.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:08.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:11.000 Brought to you by the Loan Experts I Trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at andrewandTodd.com.

00:01:20.000 Joining us now is Kurt Schlichter, author of Overlord, eighth in the series.

00:01:25.000 Check it out.

00:01:26.000 I'm hearing great things about it in the People's Republic series.

00:01:29.000 Kurt, thank you for taking the time.

00:01:31.000 Kurt, I was thinking, who could we have on the show that's not going to hold anything back?

00:01:34.000 Make our audience laugh about the Shakespearean tragedy and drama that we are witnessing.

00:01:41.000 Kurt, how should we think about what is happening right now as we speak?

00:01:45.000 Motion to vacate of Kevin McCarthy.

00:01:48.000 Well, the whole thing reminds me of the sin of O-Nann. 1.00

00:01:54.000 I think, you know, I'm trying to keep it FCC compliant here, Charlie.

00:02:02.000 I'm an Army guy.

00:02:04.000 I want to know what the objective is.

00:02:06.000 I don't like Kevin McCarthy.

00:02:08.000 He's not my pal.

00:02:10.000 I am completely indifferent to what happens to him.

00:02:13.000 He is a tool in every sense of the word, but mostly to be used for an objective.

00:02:19.000 What's the objective?

00:02:20.000 Matt Gates, why now?

00:02:22.000 Why here?

00:02:23.000 Why this?

00:02:24.000 I know what, I know what the plan is to the extent is it starts with vacating the chair.

00:02:32.000 And step two, we're going to skip over that.

00:02:35.000 And then step three is some better situation happens.

00:02:40.000 I don't understand the plan.

00:02:42.000 I understand that we've got a presidential primary going on while we are talking about this.

00:02:48.000 We are not talking about the lawfare against President Trump.

00:02:51.000 We are not talking about the various candidates and their policies.

00:02:54.000 We are not talking about the Hunter Biden revelations that even the Washington Post can't ignore anymore.

00:03:02.000 We're not talking about Jamal Bowman, who can't figure out the difference between a door and a fire alarm.

00:03:11.000 I actually believe him there. 1.00

00:03:13.000 I do think he is that dumb. 0.98

00:03:16.000 Instead, we've got Matt Gates being followed by hundreds of regime media reporters who, for the first time ever, are thrilled to ask what Matt Gates, a hardcore conservative, thinks, only because they think it's going to cause chaos among the Republicans, which it is. 0.99

00:03:37.000 And he appears to be eating this up.

00:03:39.000 He appears to be loving this.

00:03:42.000 He appears to have a personal beef against Kevin McCarthy.

00:03:48.000 Not sure that his personal beefs should have any play in here.

00:03:52.000 Look, I'm all about winning.

00:03:54.000 I don't understand how that wins.

00:03:56.000 I haven't had a good explanation of how vacating the chair wins.

00:04:01.000 Again, not a power of Kevin McCarthy.

00:04:03.000 He's not my favorite guy.

00:04:05.000 I don't like him.

00:04:06.000 I don't love him, but he's been useful.

00:04:09.000 Who's going to be the guy who takes over when Matt Gates tosses him out with the help of the Democrats, who will never do anything that's good for the Republicans?

00:04:20.000 So you can tell, you know, it's an important indicator.

00:04:23.000 If the Democrats are united behind you in doing something, that's when you think, huh, maybe this isn't such a great idea.

00:04:34.000 So I'm, you know, I'm concerned with winning legislative elections in Virginia, where we have to show people who have doubts about conservatives that we can govern.

00:04:46.000 I'm concerned about winning in Kentucky, where we have a very important governor who's very likely to have to replace Mitch McConnell, whose health is failing.

00:04:57.000 I want to, you know, is this going to help those things or hurt those things?

00:05:03.000 What's the answer?

00:05:04.000 I don't know what the answer is.

00:05:06.000 I'm unconvinced.

00:05:08.000 And to take a giant leap to do something that hasn't been done in 113 years, you know, I'd like to know what the plan is.

00:05:17.000 Am I crazy, Charlie?

00:05:18.000 No, no, there is no plan.

00:05:20.000 And I understand the anger from the base.

00:05:21.000 I'm going to read some emails here, though, Kurt.

00:05:23.000 And I know.

00:05:24.000 And I get it because we have been betrayed on every major issue.

00:05:28.000 So I get it.

00:05:29.000 I feel the same way.

00:05:30.000 I'm not even trying to do happy talk.

00:05:32.000 I'm not trying to do, I'm just asking, guys, before you storm the Bastille, what's next?

00:05:38.000 And there is this, there's this amazing dialogue that happened.

00:05:43.000 Boy, I'm trying to remember what New York City liberal was, but it was with the Black Panthers. 0.95

00:05:48.000 I think I had you on once and we talked about this.

00:05:50.000 So the Black Panthers came to some sort of white liberal cocktail soiree, and all the white liberals were like fawning over them. 0.74

00:05:57.000 Ooh, the Black Panthers, best thing ever. 1.00

00:05:59.000 And some, you know, brave soul, you know, listens to the speech, and the Black Panthers say, We're going to burn it all down. 0.81

00:06:05.000 We're going to do this.

00:06:06.000 And somebody asked the question, they said, But what next?

00:06:11.000 And the Black Panther responds: He says, Well, you can't know everything, man.

00:06:17.000 It's like, okay, hold on a second here.

00:06:19.000 Like, let's time out.

00:06:20.000 Like, let's, I get the anger.

00:06:22.000 I understand it.

00:06:25.000 But, but here's the thing.

00:06:27.000 Let me just read some of these emails here because, again, I have received thousands of very nasty messages, not even because I'm saying we shouldn't be doing this.

00:06:36.000 I'm saying that this has probably not been thought through.

00:06:39.000 Like, just what the one, two, three, four is right.

00:06:44.000 So, I'll read one of these emails here, right?

00:06:46.000 Charlie, the time has come to burn it all down.

00:06:49.000 They're all the same.

00:06:50.000 It can't get any worse than what we have.

00:06:52.000 What is your response to that, Kurt? 1.00

00:06:54.000 That's about the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 1.00

00:06:56.000 And I think we need to stop sugarcoating it with our people. 1.00

00:06:59.000 Okay, I've been in the ruins of a civil war.

00:07:03.000 It gets a lot worse.

00:07:05.000 We have problems here. 0.99

00:07:07.000 You know, and I find it interesting that guys like you and I, who no one is going to mistake for a squish, unless they are actively stupid or think the listener is actively stupid, are saying, wait a minute, stop it. 0.99

00:07:22.000 We need a plan. 0.99

00:07:23.000 We need a direction.

00:07:26.000 We need to figure out what the heck we're going to do.

00:07:30.000 And it can't just be, well, let's just see what happens.

00:07:34.000 Let's toss this guy out with no idea who follows.

00:07:38.000 You know what's going to happen?

00:07:39.000 A bunch of Republican squishes, the same one the base is infuriated at, are going to get together with a bunch of Democrats, and they're going to put in a squish Republican speaker like they got down in Texas, the same kind of creep who was behind impeaching Ken Paxton. 0.90

00:08:00.000 And then they're going to go, I can't believe it. 0.62

00:08:02.000 You know, I keep thinking of that meme, the guy riding on his bike and he's saying, dang these Republicans, they're screwing everything up.

00:08:10.000 He sticks some between the folks in his wheel.

00:08:12.000 He wrecks.

00:08:13.000 He goes, oh, they're really annoyed.

00:08:15.000 Look what they did to me.

00:08:16.000 The anger is understandable.

00:08:18.000 And yes.

00:08:19.000 And, but so, some I could read, I could read.

00:08:22.000 By the way, the audience is 99% in the direction of vacate, storm the bastille, take the head, and all that.

00:08:29.000 But let's let's just go through a fact, which is that the people that will be voting for motion to vacate, you know, they say they've been lied to and betrayed.

00:08:39.000 And I'm going to take their word at it, right?

00:08:41.000 I'm not there.

00:08:42.000 They are.

00:08:42.000 I'm not going to, but they will vote with, they will vote for every Democrat.

00:08:48.000 So is it correct, Kurt, to say that this is a gift to the Democrat Party?

00:08:54.000 Well, the Democrats sure think so.

00:08:56.000 Democrats are excited about this.

00:08:58.000 Every single Democrat wouldn't be voting for this thing if they didn't think it was good for the Democrats.

00:09:05.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:09:06.000 You know, that sounds obvious, but time out, time out.

00:09:08.000 Say that again because let's not bury the lead.

00:09:11.000 Okay.

00:09:11.000 Hold on.

00:09:12.000 I want you to repeat what you just said.

00:09:14.000 Say it again.

00:09:16.000 Every single Democrat would not be voting for this if every single Democrat did not think this was good for the Democrats and bad for us.

00:09:25.000 That sounds so obvious, but because the Democrats never vote against their own interest ever.

00:09:32.000 No, no, no, they don't.

00:09:33.000 I'm talking about their political party interests, not the interest of their constituents of their power.

00:09:37.000 No, I look, I think you're right.

00:09:40.000 And I, you know, I'm I understand people are frustrated.

00:09:47.000 Grow up.

00:09:48.000 We have a four-seat majority of one house of the Congress.

00:09:54.000 Okay.

00:09:54.000 There are a bunch of reasons why that's true, many of them the fault of our own party and our own choices and actions.

00:10:03.000 But that's where we are.

00:10:05.000 You know, where they're, I can't believe, why isn't he decreeing, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:10.000 Because, you know, maybe you should have paid more attention that schoolhouse rock, I'm just a bill thing because it doesn't work like that.

00:10:21.000 We have got to make incremental movements.

00:10:24.000 We are not going to make, you know, this is this is not going to be a giant sweeping cavalry charge.

00:10:30.000 This is going to be bayonet fighting inch by inch.

00:10:33.000 And sometimes you're going to lose ground.

00:10:36.000 Sometimes the bad guys score points.

00:10:40.000 The goal is to move forward, but you never move forward by losing.

00:10:46.000 I don't want to make any broad proclamations, but we will, it looks like we're not going to have the house next year.

00:10:54.000 I'm just going to tell you right now.

00:10:55.000 It was, it was, this is not making it more likely for them.

00:10:58.000 And most of our audience doesn't care.

00:11:00.000 And they're telling us.

00:11:01.000 And then that's not.

00:11:03.000 But they will.

00:11:04.000 Once they abolish the Electoral College, I'm going to get a lot of emails.

00:11:07.000 Yeah, well, I can't believe they're doing this.

00:11:09.000 Well, believe it.

00:11:10.000 And you thought it was a great idea.

00:11:12.000 No, I would rather not be in the I Told You So mode.

00:11:15.000 I know.

00:11:16.000 So get it out now.

00:11:17.000 I know.

00:11:17.000 When Washington, D.C. becomes a state, I don't want to have to replay this segment.

00:11:22.000 I don't.

00:11:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:25.000 Guys, think.

00:11:27.000 I just want to make sure everyone's clear.

00:11:28.000 I share the anger.

00:11:29.000 I share the volcanic eruption against the Uniparty.

00:11:33.000 Let's be smart.

00:11:35.000 Let's ask ourselves: Is there any downside to letting our emotions govern our behavior?

00:11:43.000 I want to talk about relieffactor.com.

00:11:45.000 I want you guys to check out relieffactor.com: 100% drug-free knee pain, back pain, joint pain, elbow pain.

00:11:50.000 Check out Relief Factor Energy help makes your body make nutrients readily available.

00:11:55.000 Relief Factor Sleep.

00:11:57.000 I know a lot of you are probably having trouble sleeping.

00:11:59.000 Relief Factor Sleep could be the best solution for you.

00:12:02.000 Everybody goes to bed.

00:12:03.000 Not everybody sleeps.

00:12:05.000 We're all about helping people live lives that are filled with connection, exploration, passion, and emotion.

00:12:09.000 That is what his life is all about.

00:12:11.000 Make sure you guys are sleeping well.

00:12:12.000 It's a major part of life.

00:12:14.000 Check it out right now: relieffactor.com, relieffactor.com.

00:12:19.000 All right, Kurt Schlichter continues with us.

00:12:21.000 The vote is ongoing right now to vacate the chair.

00:12:26.000 Breaking news: every Democrat will be voting to vacate the chair.

00:12:30.000 There will be no dissension.

00:12:32.000 So, Kurt, I don't know if you can see a screen here.

00:12:33.000 This is what happens if a single Democrat votes out of line.

00:12:37.000 play cut 30.

00:13:04.000 It's one of the most powerful scenes in movie.

00:13:06.000 Walk us through that scene, Kurt.

00:13:08.000 Well, you know, Woltz, the director who doesn't do what Tom Hagen says in The Godfather, wakes up and finds Rosie O'Donnell's head in his bed.

00:13:20.000 And it's a tragedy.

00:13:22.000 It's horrible.

00:13:25.000 It's an enforcement tool.

00:13:27.000 I'm not saying that we as Republicans should act like that.

00:13:30.000 I'm saying a fact.

00:13:31.000 This is why the Democrats don't want to wake up with their Chihuahua's head in their bed.

00:13:37.000 No. 0.99

00:13:40.000 Nope. 0.99

00:13:40.000 As I said, if AOC ever filed a motion to vacate Pelosi, her aunt would be deported. 0.99

00:13:47.000 Her brother would be, you know, indicted for something. 0.99

00:13:51.000 She would lose her parking pass, and her boyfriend would lose his job all before Nancy Pelosi is done with her third screwdriver at 9 a.m.

00:13:59.000 So, Kurt, let me ask you: I want to just, there's some really good meaning emails here.

00:14:04.000 Brett, for example, Charlie, first time I ever disagreed with you, it is simple.

00:14:08.000 McCarthy was given all year to follow through with promises.

00:14:11.000 Accountability must be carried out, and you know, it never is in government.

00:14:15.000 Republicans must learn to do what they promise for the people in leadership and follow through.

00:14:19.000 I'll read another email here. 0.99

00:14:20.000 Charlie, so if we, the listeners, are so stupid because we are sick of betrayal, what big plan do you guys have? 0.99

00:14:26.000 Haven't heard a plan from each one of you again. 1.00

00:14:28.000 Uh, lots lots of anger today.

00:14:31.000 Kurt, how should we respond to those?

00:14:33.000 Well, look, I think uh, Kevin McCarthy, again, who I have no special love for, uh, you know, to me, politicians are fungible.

00:14:42.000 One is as good as the other.

00:14:44.000 It's simply a matter of what you can do for me at a given moment.

00:14:49.000 It would be, you know, Kevin McCarthy has been doing about as good a job as you can do in the situation he's given, which is a majority of four people.

00:15:01.000 And it is, I mean, it's very hard to do whatever you want when you don't have the power to do it.

00:15:12.000 And I think he's done a remarkable job.

00:15:14.000 Not a perfect one.

00:15:15.000 I would have, for instance, gone on vacation in August.

00:15:19.000 I would have made everybody stay until we got the stuff done.

00:15:23.000 But I can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

00:15:27.000 And he was good enough.

00:15:29.000 I don't see an alternative.

00:15:32.000 If you just want to burn things down, you know, you get burned too.

00:15:38.000 I prefer not to be burned, Charlie.

00:15:40.000 I prefer inter, you know, you know, victories, one after the other, small ones, step by step, with some defeats, over a massive self-inflicted defeat.

00:15:53.000 So, the some people say, then, Charlie, what is your guys' plan?

00:15:57.000 I think our plan is pretty simple, Kurt.

00:15:59.000 This is my perspective: is that we have to just kind of put our hands up and be like, Congress is a massive disappointment.

00:16:05.000 Try to get the appropriations bill.

00:16:07.000 Not going to celebrate it.

00:16:08.000 I'm going to focus my attention on trying to win the White House while simultaneously thinking that a circus in Congress is not good.

00:16:14.000 I'm not going to defend it.

00:16:16.000 I'm not going to say it's a beautiful thing.

00:16:18.000 I'm not, I'm just, I'm, I'm kind of done with Congress as it is.

00:16:23.000 And I think part of the issue is, Kurt, is people think that we can get that we can get some sort of rip roar in Congress.

00:16:30.000 We can't even get that in Texas.

00:16:32.000 Well, you know, we haven't made the case that we can govern, and we're busy making a case that we can't.

00:16:39.000 But look at the progress we have made.

00:16:41.000 We could have some better negotiating position for the budget.

00:16:48.000 We're not going to get the budget we want because we only have a four-seat majority.

00:16:52.000 But one thing we have done is uncovered this whole Biden corruption thing, which never would have happened without a majority and may just come to a flying stop when we don't have a conservative speaker because we may get a moderate speaker.

00:17:09.000 And what do you think the Democrats' price for supporting a speaker with some moderate Republicans is going to be? 0.91

00:17:16.000 If you don't think Barry, this whole Biden thing is on the price tag, you're crazy.

00:17:23.000 Kurt Schlichter, I feel the anger, everybody.

00:17:25.000 Let's see what happens.

00:17:27.000 We are going to be without a speaker likely very soon.

00:17:31.000 Strong Cell is amazing.

00:17:33.000 I got to tell you, the combination of NADH, CoQ10, and collagen is really something.

00:17:38.000 You know, people ask me, they say, Charlie, how do you keep your energy up?

00:17:42.000 How do you just keep on pushing?

00:17:43.000 Look, part of it is diet nutrition, but I'll be honest, I take supplements really seriously.

00:17:49.000 Fact check me on this.

00:17:50.000 You can say, oh, Trump, I'm going to fact-check you.

00:17:51.000 Type this into your search engine.

00:17:54.000 NADH.

00:17:56.000 Just type it in.

00:17:57.000 What does it tell you?

00:17:58.000 It might tell you that it is the secret to living long, anti-aging properties, more energy.

00:18:04.000 All of that is being proven in more and more clinical trials.

00:18:06.000 NADH is a precursor so that your mitochondria can remain healthy and vibrant.

00:18:12.000 The elites, a lot of billionaires, people, a lot of money, they spend a ton of money on NAD.

00:18:16.000 It's a fact.

00:18:17.000 NAD just might be your secret weapon for more energy.

00:18:20.000 I take NAD every single day.

00:18:23.000 I could tell you that NADH compared with CoQ10, the trials show very, very good things on it.

00:18:28.000 Don't take my word for it.

00:18:30.000 I mean, honestly, my word should be good for something, but fact-check me.

00:18:33.000 Look at it.

00:18:34.000 And if you do it over 30 days, you'll see an increase in energy.

00:18:36.000 I wake up better than ever before.

00:18:38.000 NAD can help you potentially, again, fact check me on this with depression, anxiety, other issues that you might be dealing with.

00:18:46.000 It is nature's gift to you so that you might have extra energy and mental clarity.

00:18:51.000 You guys can use promo code Charlie for 20% off.

00:18:53.000 It's strongsell.com/slash Charlie.

00:18:56.000 NAD might be nature's secret weapon for you.

00:19:01.000 I love it.

00:19:02.000 I take it every single day.

00:19:03.000 Try to try it for at least 30 days to see the maximum benefit.

00:19:07.000 And let me know, has NAD helped your life?

00:19:09.000 Strongsell.com/slash Charlie.

00:19:11.000 Check it out.

00:19:12.000 Strongsell.com/slash Charlie.

00:19:16.000 Okay, Kurt, I'm going to read this email from Bobby who emailed us.

00:19:19.000 Charlie, McCarthy is responsible for the narrow house victory to begin with.

00:19:23.000 He dumped money and effort into bearing MAGA candidates.

00:19:25.000 Now you want to use the argument of our limited power against holding him accountable for all our failings.

00:19:30.000 Why do you think he wanted the limited number control?

00:19:32.000 It's a gun to our head.

00:19:33.000 We've been manipulated. 0.97

00:19:34.000 It's time to remove him.

00:19:36.000 Time for a new speaker.

00:19:38.000 Get your head in the game.

00:19:40.000 So, Kurt, how should we respond to that? 1.00

00:19:42.000 Well, look, that's just dumb. 0.89

00:19:46.000 Look, I blame McCarthy to some level too, though, less than other senior Republicans. 0.98

00:19:54.000 But it was a group effort screwing up 2022.

00:19:58.000 And the idea that there's some sort of like seven-dimensional chest where he only has a couple people, majority, because that's like to his advantage.

00:20:10.000 You know, stop.

00:20:12.000 Stop with the childish stuff.

00:20:13.000 One of the problems that we have, Charlie, is a lot of people came into politics energized by Donald Trump.

00:20:22.000 And that itself is not bad.

00:20:24.000 But a lot of them do not understand how actual politics works.

00:20:32.000 Okay.

00:20:32.000 And it's not this conspiracy thing.

00:20:35.000 It's not these clever geniuses.

00:20:37.000 These are not bond villains.

00:20:39.000 Okay.

00:20:39.000 These are not super smart Ernst Starbrose Blofelds in their volcano lair.

00:20:45.000 They're regular people with regular faults and many of them not exceptional in any way.

00:20:53.000 So the idea that there's some sort of giant conspiracy going on, no, it's exactly what it seems.

00:20:59.000 It's people having to make deals, people having to make compromises, and other people not accepting the fact that, you know, most of America is not as conservative as you are, Charlie, as I am, as your viewers and listeners are.

00:21:19.000 We've got to get along with a majority of people who are more liberal than we are, even on the Republican side.

00:21:27.000 How do we do that?

00:21:28.000 We're not dictators.

00:21:29.000 We don't have absolute power.

00:21:32.000 We've got to make incremental progress.

00:21:35.000 And we've got to accept that sometimes we're not going to win.

00:21:38.000 So why should Kurt open the port?

00:21:41.000 I want to also just play this out and also talk about how Kevin and Speaker McCarthy, he should have handled the CR thing differently.

00:21:51.000 I think this is also a fair part of the conversation, right?

00:21:53.000 He wouldn't be in this mess, which is just now a mess.

00:21:57.000 They have the votes.

00:22:00.000 It's just right now breaking news.

00:22:01.000 10 Republicans are showing that they are not going to table ousting McCarthy, which means they're likely going to...

00:22:08.000 Well, that means they're forcing the vote.

00:22:10.000 We'll see if they actually go through with it with the next vote.

00:22:12.000 But it looks like it's going to happen because every Democrat is in lockstep.

00:22:15.000 But Kurt, in a very strange, not a strange world, Speaker McCarthy's probably being like, man, I should have shut down the government.

00:22:21.000 I would still be Speaker.

00:22:24.000 Because at this, and by the way, I don't like what happened over the weekend with the CR.

00:22:29.000 It was the exact opposite of what we, the voters, wanted.

00:22:32.000 Talk about how the CR led to this, Kurt.

00:22:34.000 It really was the straw that broke the camel's back.

00:22:38.000 Well, look, we wanted to get to, look, this starts long ago.

00:22:41.000 We wanted to get to regular order.

00:22:43.000 I don't understand why McCarthy didn't keep everybody over August in a hot, sweaty swamp.

00:22:48.000 I agree.

00:22:50.000 That's a good point.

00:22:51.000 Yep, that's right.

00:22:52.000 So, you know, we always come up to the end.

00:22:56.000 And this time, look, I think McCarthy, by pushing it off 45 days, got the best possible deal from the circumstances that everybody put him in.

00:23:09.000 Because, you know, again, he doesn't have absolute power as we're seeing right now.

00:23:15.000 He's got to herd 218 cats.

00:23:19.000 And, you know, it's hard enough to herd two cats.

00:23:22.000 This was going to happen eventually anyway, because there are rewards for doing this.

00:23:27.000 If you look at Matt Gates, Matt Gates is getting more attention than he will ever get in the, has ever had, and will ever get in the future right now because he's perceived as damaging the Republican brand, which it appears to me he's doing.

00:23:43.000 But he gets a reward out of it.

00:23:44.000 Now, he wants to run for governor.

00:23:46.000 He doesn't intend to be in the next Congress necessarily.

00:23:50.000 Now, let's there is a chance, but it's a small chance that let's say Chip Roy or a more conservative becomes Speaker. 0.51

00:24:00.000 Is that, but it doesn't seem as if that is going to happen because, by the way, Nancy Mace is voting to vacate Kevin McCarthy. 1.00

00:24:08.000 She's the most like erratic. 1.00

00:24:10.000 She's all over the place. 1.00

00:24:12.000 I just, I get a kick out of her.

00:24:14.000 I got to be honest.

00:24:14.000 Did you get into the Chardonnay again?

00:24:17.000 No. 0.63

00:24:18.000 Nancy Mace votes to she votes for a criminal referral against Steve Bannon. 0.88

00:24:25.000 And then she goes on the Steve Bannon show like nine months later. 1.00

00:24:28.000 And now she is, she just does whatever she wants.

00:24:31.000 It's actually hilarious. 1.00

00:24:32.000 Maybe she wants to be speaker. 1.00

00:24:33.000 Maybe that's what she, maybe she wants to be speaker. 0.99

00:24:36.000 So all she does is speak. 0.98

00:24:39.000 I haven't seen her do anything but run her mouth.

00:24:43.000 Look, if you're on the side of Nancy Mace with all the Democrats, this is what I call an indicator.

00:24:51.000 This is where you go, wait, time for a personal inventory about the path I've chosen.

00:24:57.000 So let's play Cut 42.

00:24:58.000 Let's play Cut 42.

00:25:00.000 Mr. Speaker, I rise to a question of the privileges of the House and offer the resolution I previously noticed.

00:25:05.000 The clerk will report the resolution.

00:25:07.000 House Resolution 757.

00:25:10.000 Resolved that the office of the Speaker of the House of Representatives is hereby declared to be vacant.

00:25:17.000 The resolution qualifies as a question of the privileges of the House.

00:25:22.000 For what purpose does the gentleman from Oklahoma seek recognition?

00:25:26.000 Motion to table at the desk.

00:25:28.000 The clerk will report the motion.

00:25:30.000 Mr. Cole of Oklahoma moves to lay the resolution on the table.

00:25:34.000 So the only question that remains is who's going to vote present or will the Democrats break with the caucus, which won't happen because they don't want, you know, their dead Pomeranian in the bed.

00:25:44.000 So it's just a simple majority at this point.

00:25:47.000 And again, the present votes could change the math a little bit, right?

00:25:52.000 Yes.

00:25:52.000 So that, yes.

00:25:53.000 So it's not that the cake is baked, but it certainly looks like it very well might be baked.

00:25:59.000 But Matt Gates, Ken Buck, Andy Biggs, Tim Burchett, Sparks, Davidson, Rosendale, Mace, and Good are forcing the vote.

00:26:07.000 So those are 10 votes to say that we want the vote.

00:26:10.000 How they will vote, we will see.

00:26:13.000 And I think it only takes three or four if every Democrat goes with them.

00:26:17.000 And so then let's just build this out, Kurt.

00:26:19.000 So that means literally we're going to go right back to where we were in January.

00:26:23.000 All the committees are going to be put in suspension.

00:26:26.000 All the looking into Merrick Garland, all the weaponization of government stuff at the FBI, all the January 6th stuff, that's all kind of put in suspension.

00:26:34.000 We had 15 rounds last time, and we're going to start again.

00:26:37.000 So Kurt, walk us through deja vu all over again.

00:26:42.000 Well, first thing Matt Gates does is walk off the floor of the House to an adoring throng of regime media people who are going to love him for the next 15 minutes.

00:26:55.000 And that's going to be wonderful.

00:26:58.000 Jamal Bowman is sitting there going, yeah, I'm forgotten in all of this.

00:27:04.000 You know, Donald Trump is up in New York experiencing a witch burning, the likes of which our country has never seen. 0.97

00:27:12.000 But we're not going to cover that because Matt Gates and his pals have to get their time in the sun.

00:27:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:18.000 Ken Buck's going to go get his CNN contract.

00:27:23.000 Bob Good of Virginia is going to tank the legislative agenda, legislative elections in Virginia.

00:27:30.000 This is just great stuff if you're a Democrat.

00:27:34.000 And it is going to be kind of aligning with the Democrat, right?

00:27:39.000 So, but here's the question, and I don't know the answer.

00:27:43.000 And Nancy Mace.

00:27:44.000 Yeah, I don't know. 1.00

00:27:45.000 She's out of control. 1.00

00:27:47.000 So the most unpredictable member of Congress I've ever seen. 1.00

00:27:51.000 She's totally predictable. 1.00

00:27:52.000 Because mark my words, tomorrow she's going to get on like MFNBC, like with Scarborough, and she's going to be like, I can't believe how dysfunctional Congress is. 1.00

00:28:02.000 We have to work together to build bridges to a brighter tomorrow. 0.84

00:28:06.000 No, that's right. 0.98

00:28:07.000 On morning Joe, on morning Mika, or she might start the Mace for Speaker campaign. 1.00

00:28:12.000 So Mace for Speaker. 1.00

00:28:16.000 Nancy Mace is to Republicans what Mika Brzezinski is to the institution of marriage.

00:28:24.000 I'll let everyone do that math. 0.86

00:28:26.000 Let's let that sink in.

00:28:28.000 So, okay, so there's a, this hasn't happened.

00:28:31.000 Let's just talk about the history of this, Kurt.

00:28:33.000 This hasn't happened in 113 years.

00:28:35.000 And I do think that's because we are living with such large S in the sense of the borders are open. 1.00

00:28:40.000 There's so much anger and frustration.

00:28:42.000 In some ways, this is inevitable, right?

00:28:45.000 The country is collapsing.

00:28:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:28:46.000 People are looking for any sort of pressure release valve.

00:28:49.000 Kurt.

00:28:50.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:28:52.000 But, you know, there's good pressure releases like hitting the gym.

00:28:57.000 And there's bad pressure releases like opening up three bottles of Jack Daniels and chugging them.

00:29:03.000 Okay.

00:29:05.000 This is chugging the Jack Daniels.

00:29:08.000 We're not going to feel good tomorrow.

00:29:11.000 We're going to regret it greatly.

00:29:14.000 And it's not going to accomplish anything.

00:29:17.000 Look, I understand frustration.

00:29:20.000 I'm also an adult.

00:29:22.000 Incremental progress is all we're going to get.

00:29:24.000 We're not going to fix everything overnight.

00:29:27.000 Okay.

00:29:28.000 And to the extent politicians promise that they will, and McCarthy did.

00:29:32.000 So, oh, we're going to repeal 87,000 IRS agents.

00:29:35.000 No, you're not.

00:29:36.000 And you should not say that you're going to.

00:29:39.000 But I haven't heard a better idea than McCarthy.

00:29:43.000 And he's been doing about as well as we can.

00:29:45.000 And we've actually gotten a lot out of this in terms of investigations.

00:29:49.000 So I don't know where it goes from here, but I'm pretty sure it ain't going to be better.

00:29:54.000 So I love that.

00:29:56.000 I mean, I love that idea of like the hangover.

00:29:59.000 Yes.

00:29:59.000 You know, when the fog clears and your high, you know, dissipates, I don't know if we're going to be feeling great when all of a sudden, you know, Speaker Mace all of a sudden announces that she has 30 Democrats with her to, you know, or, you know, don't.

00:30:13.000 Don't think it can't happen.

00:30:14.000 No, I'm not.

00:30:15.000 No, This is not a joke.

00:30:17.000 People have called me names all morning.

00:30:19.000 Charlie, stop.

00:30:20.000 You know, I said, no, no, no, no.

00:30:21.000 You're in the midst of a congressional session.

00:30:23.000 This is a different ballgame than January.

00:30:25.000 I mean, you're talking about you could have a Dusty Johnson, Don Bacon, Hakeem Jeffries, that guy that just got mugged, whatever that guy, Qualaro, whatever his name is, right?

00:30:35.000 Yeah, whatever.

00:30:36.000 I mean, anything can happen at this point.

00:30:39.000 And absolutely.

00:30:42.000 Look, I can see Nancy Mace, and you just see the calculation in her eyes whenever she's on MSNBC and CNN.

00:30:51.000 And would she promise Jakeem Jeffries, hey, we're closing down the Biden investigation that she was all for 15 minutes ago in a heartbeat.

00:31:02.000 Yeah, and by the way, Matt Gates.

00:31:05.000 No, no, if you get a more moderate speaker, they could just close down every one of these subpoenas.

00:31:08.000 There's no impeachments.

00:31:10.000 Everyone.

00:31:10.000 Yeah.

00:31:10.000 And by the way, our audience says we don't care about any of that.

00:31:12.000 And that's, I disagree.

00:31:16.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

00:31:17.000 Do you get the feeling that the unthinkable is going to happen soon?

00:31:20.000 Well, I do.

00:31:20.000 Between the distractions and the smokescreens and the media, we probably might not even see it coming.

00:31:25.000 You are nine meals away from anarchy.

00:31:27.000 That's why it's so smart to invest in emergency food right now.

00:31:31.000 As they say, quote, it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

00:31:35.000 MyPatriot Supply is the nation's leader in high-quality emergency food.

00:31:39.000 Head to mypatriotsupply.com.

00:31:42.000 That is mypatriotsupply.com and prepare today with emergency food that will stay fresh for up to 25 years.

00:31:48.000 Enjoy a wide variety of delicious food kits, offering over 2,000 calories every day for optimum strength under stress.

00:31:55.000 And don't forget about water filtration and purification products.

00:31:58.000 These are perfect for your bug out bag, survival supply, and camping pack.

00:32:02.000 One thing is for sure in this world, we all need to stock up before panic sets in.

00:32:07.000 Order by 3 p.m. and your item ships the same day, and that is really fast.

00:32:11.000 Go to mypatriotsupply.com.

00:32:13.000 It's time to prepare for what's coming, mypatriotsupply.com.

00:32:18.000 All right, Kurt, let's summarize it.

00:32:20.000 It looks like this vote is going to happen.

00:32:22.000 What is the best case scenario from this point forward?

00:32:26.000 I think it's likely he's going to lose the speakership.

00:32:29.000 The best case scenario would be quickly picking a new Republican speaker.

00:32:34.000 But what's the name of that guy?

00:32:36.000 Because as I recall back in January, we went through 15 iterations before we got to Kevin McCarthy.

00:32:43.000 So who's the other guy?

00:32:45.000 What's the alternative?

00:32:47.000 I mean, I feel like, you know, you're on a date with an ex-girlfriend and you say, hey, let's go out to eat.

00:32:58.000 Where do you want to go?

00:32:59.000 I don't know.

00:32:59.000 I don't care.

00:33:00.000 Okay, let's go Chinese. 0.99

00:33:01.000 I don't want to go Chinese. 1.00

00:33:02.000 Okay, let's go Cuban. 0.98

00:33:04.000 I don't want to go Cuban. 1.00

00:33:05.000 Let's get hamburgers.

00:33:06.000 I don't want hamburgers.

00:33:07.000 That's how what's the answer?

00:33:10.000 You can't just say no all the time.

00:33:13.000 You're not a two-year-old.

00:33:15.000 I need an answer.

00:33:16.000 And it doesn't make me a squish or love Kemp Bush or Paul Ryan because I'd like a plan.

00:33:25.000 I'd like to know what we're doing and how we plan on doing it.

00:33:29.000 No, no, no, Kurt.

00:33:30.000 You don't understand.

00:33:31.000 I am now, and by the way, calling me a rhino is really rich.

00:33:35.000 I got to be honest.

00:33:36.000 That's amazing.

00:33:37.000 If I'm a rhino where I say that there's a war on white people and being trans is a mass delusion and that we're being vaded, you know, via the great replacement of the third world. 0.90

00:33:46.000 But Charlie's a rhino because, Kurt, I want a plan.

00:33:52.000 Yes.

00:33:53.000 Yes.

00:33:53.000 You clearly love Soros and Jeb.

00:33:57.000 It's just, look, I can't deal with it.

00:34:01.000 I can deal with disagreement.

00:34:02.000 I do want to say that.

00:34:03.000 By the way, some of the audience is just disagreeing and they've been polite, but I'd say that hundreds of people are just like, they're coming after my motives.

00:34:09.000 They're like, you're an establishment hack.

00:34:11.000 I'm like, really?

00:34:13.000 Okay.

00:34:14.000 Words actually mean something, okay?

00:34:16.000 When you say words like establishment, neocon, these actually have rhinos.

00:34:22.000 They have meanings.

00:34:23.000 It's not just a replacement word for something that you think is kind of bad or has displeased you.

00:34:30.000 They have actual meanings.

00:34:32.000 And I don't think it's too much to expect people to understand them and use them.

00:34:37.000 Disagree with me.

00:34:38.000 Fine.

00:34:38.000 I'm a lawyer.

00:34:39.000 Everyone I talk to all day literally disagrees with me.

00:34:44.000 Okay.

00:34:44.000 Doesn't offend me.

00:34:45.000 What offends me is people who haven't thought their stuff through and who have sloppy, weak, emotion-driven thinking because that never ever works.

00:34:57.000 That is well said.

00:34:58.000 Kurt, plug your book, plug whatever you want.

00:35:00.000 You've been generous with your time.

00:35:03.000 Go get Overlord.

00:35:04.000 It's the eighth Kelly Turnbull novel inspired by Andrew Breitbart back when I worked for him.

00:35:08.000 He said, go out, make the media you want.

00:35:11.000 This is the eighth, full of action.

00:35:14.000 America is split into red and blue. 0.59

00:35:16.000 You send the red hero into the blue America, and they're crazy, and they're insane, and there's guns. 0.96

00:35:23.000 You got a dog. 0.79

00:35:24.000 Look at that cover by conservative artist Salty Hollywood.

00:35:28.000 It is fun.

00:35:29.000 I am number one in military thrillers right now.

00:35:33.000 Number one in the world in military thrillers.

00:35:35.000 That's quite a category.

00:35:36.000 That's quite a category.

00:35:37.000 Yeah, that's pretty cool.

00:35:39.000 Military thrillers.

00:35:40.000 I didn't even know that existed.

00:35:41.000 That's pretty cool.

00:35:42.000 Congratulations, Kirk.

00:35:44.000 All right.

00:35:44.000 We'll have you on soon.

00:35:45.000 Thanks so much.

00:35:46.000 Look, I just want to speak throughout the guys, the audience.

00:35:48.000 I love the feedback.

00:35:49.000 I don't take it personally.

00:35:49.000 I find it laughable, but don't allow your anger, your emotions to guide you in a bad direction.

00:35:54.000 Here's a good rule of life.

00:35:56.000 And I'm only 29, gonna be 30 soon.

00:35:58.000 Here's one of my rules of life: I make my worst decisions when I'm angry.

00:36:03.000 I do not think clearly when I'm angry.

00:36:06.000 When I get in a debate on a college campus and somebody is angry, I know I'm gonna beat them in a debate because they're not thinking clearly.

00:36:13.000 They're not doing, they are not rationally considering everything.

00:36:18.000 So be measured.

00:36:20.000 Let your temper go out and then ask yourself the question: is there a plan?

00:36:25.000 Whatever that plan may or may not be.

00:36:27.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:28.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:31.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:36:36.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 03, 2023

The Fall of Kevin McCarthy? with Kurt Schlichter

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript