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00:03:35.000Now, why do I bring up the impeachment?
00:03:38.000Because that is already, we saw it from Cornyn, and now we see it from Tallarico, Tofu Tallarico, as he will forever be known on this show.
00:03:49.000There's a lot of great nicknames being floated around, by the way.
00:03:51.000Talfrico, Soy Boy, but I like Tofu Tallarico.
00:05:03.000I am proud to say that our campaign has officially become a non meat campaign.
00:05:08.000They're going to call me a radical leftist, un Texan, un American, and bar none, the weirdest candidate for Senate that Lone Star State has ever seen.
00:05:20.000I wonder what narrator they got for that.
00:05:21.000It makes me think of when I was a kid in the 90s.
00:05:24.000They'd have these kids' movies, and the narrator sounds almost exactly the same.
00:06:23.000But, you know, Talarico seems like a young guy.
00:06:25.000I don't, he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who will get elected and then suddenly get amnesia on all the generations.
00:06:29.000Talarico is the manifestation of what happens to an otherwise.
00:06:35.000Like, kind of normal guy when he goes through the woke indoctrination regimen that the left wants for all American males.
00:06:43.000You come out spineless, your masculinity is shriveled on the vine.
00:06:47.000Like, you can't fight anybody, you couldn't defend a home.0.72
00:06:52.000You end up twisting yourself into ideological knots to justify the most heinous things, including abortion, the transing of kids, all of this stuff.
00:07:02.000And this, to me, is the heart of the argument.
00:07:09.000He said, Can we be done with the pretense that Republican primary voters vote for MAGA candidates in spite of their apostasy and corruption?
00:07:18.000Obviously, he's talking about Kim Paxson.
00:07:20.000The transgressions is a feature, not a bug.
00:07:23.000It tells voters they don't care about law or morality, only power.
00:07:27.000So here's my question for you, David French.
00:07:30.000If I, as a voter, am confronted with a binary choice, Between Ken Paxton, who supports my values, supports a closed border, who's tough on crime, and all those things, supports traditional values, and will vote to support those, but he has, let's just say, a few bumps along the road morally.
00:07:53.000I'm not even making a values judgment on that necessarily, or saying it's right or wrong, or saying that it's true or false.
00:07:59.000I'm just saying, let's assume it is for a second.0.61
00:08:02.000And my other choice is Cornyn, who wants to flood the country, who is pro amnesty, or Tal Rico, who wants to trans kids, wants to justify abortion, who wants to make a third world hellhole out of Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex, which is the moral judgment that I am forced to make.
00:08:21.000If you're going to tell me that Ken Paxton is somehow morally untoward, but Tal Rico, because he says it in a calm, beta male voice.0.56
00:08:42.000It's very disturbing because it's not like Tallarico really has made the whole I'm super Christian, aspiring minister sort of persona a big part of his appeal.
00:08:54.000And the Bible has some very explicit words about what should happen to those who want to harm children, which he wants to.
00:09:01.000He's the guy who goes on podcasts and says, What do I love most?1.00
00:10:09.000But I say all this in terms of, in context of abortion, because before God comes over Mary and we have the incarnation, God asks for Mary's consent.
00:10:23.000And she says, if it is God's will, let it be done.
00:10:46.000And so that's how I come down on that side of the issue.
00:10:50.000You see, this just is vastly more bothersome than if you just have some atheist Marxist come out and they say we love abortion because we're materialists and all that.
00:10:59.000Very evil, very wrong, but you kind of know what you're getting with the territory.
00:11:03.000This is a person who is lying about what Christianity teaches, what Christianity has always taught.
00:11:11.000Earliest Christians, if you go read the Didache from the first century, where Christians are telling each other, Here's what we believe, they condemn abortion.
00:11:19.000And he comes in and he tells this lie and says, Actually, Christians should support abortion.0.58
00:12:21.000I believe Christianity points to the truth.
00:12:23.000I also think other religions of love point to the same truth.
00:12:27.000I think of different religious traditions as different languages.
00:12:30.000So, you and I could sit here and debate what to call this cup, and you could call it a cup in English, you'd call it something else in Spanish and French, but we are all talking about the same reality.
00:12:39.000I believe Jesus Christ reveals that reality to us, but I also think that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways with their own symbol structures.
00:12:48.000And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism.
00:12:55.000And so, I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos.
00:13:01.000And that truth is inherently a mystery.0.96
00:13:05.000I do not consider Islam a religion of love.1.00
00:13:08.000I believe it's a conquering political ideology that has a backdrop and a foundation that is considered a religion, but I don't believe it's true.1.00
00:13:17.000I don't believe it points to the truth.
00:13:20.000The fact that he does is extraordinarily troublesome.
00:13:25.000And I would agree with Blake that it's evil to be twisting scriptures like this.
00:13:43.000Before we go further, I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion care too.
00:13:50.000Defending trans Texans is something we have to do every day at the state capitol, and you better believe I'll be giving sermons on that too.
00:13:58.000So, when I use the word woman, it should not be understood as an exhaustive term, but rather as a lens through which to understand, examine, and interrogate patriarchy.
00:14:10.000Our trans community needs abortion care too.
00:14:12.000Yeah, and do you hear that other part?
00:14:15.000Like I sort of skimmed over, but it's like you should not hear women as an exhaustive term.0.98
00:15:15.000Symbol of treason and terrorism, but the American flag is such a complicated symbol for most of us, and in many ways, like Jesus, like the cross, it's been co opted and, in some ways, its true meaning has been betrayed.
00:16:17.000We can laugh at this guy all we want, but we should have you know this guy is every time, it seems every cycle, there's someone running in Texas and Democrats.
00:16:27.000Make him the mascot of their entire campaign that year.
00:16:31.000They got really into Beto O'Rourke in 2018.
00:16:33.000They were really obsessed with what's her name?
00:16:35.000The woman who ran for governor because she stood up for abortion rights for six hours straight or whatever it was.0.77
00:16:42.000Forgot her name because she ran and she got killed, which was good.0.58
00:16:45.000But they're going to invest a huge amount of money in this.
00:16:50.000They know that this is an opportunity for them to pick it up.
00:16:53.000Texas is a red state, it's consistently voted Republican, but it's one of the shakiest red states overall.
00:16:59.000President Trump won it big in this last election, but he won it by less in 2020 and 2016.
00:17:04.000They will spend tens, hundreds of millions of dollars on this race.
00:17:10.000So we should laugh at him because he is a laughable and pathetic figure.0.99
00:17:13.000But we do have to take this very seriously.0.98
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00:19:20.000Tell us what you make of it, of that absolute rout in the Senate, but there's other races we want to talk about as well.
00:19:27.000Yeah, I mean, last night was a phenomenal night for Patriots who are looking to take their country back.
00:19:33.000I mean, I think that that Ken Paxton result, where he won by 28 points, sent a very clear message to Washington, which is that the people of Texas and I think people across the country are looking for somebody who's going to fight for him, who's going to stand up for him, who wants secure borders, who's going to fight to actually get the Save America Act across the finish line.
00:19:56.000And that's exactly what they're going to get with Ken Paxton.
00:20:00.000It's also a clear repudiation, I think, in many ways, of Of amnesty.
00:20:06.000That was a big issue in this primary cycle.
00:20:09.000And GOP voters said very clearly, we will not tolerate amnesty.
00:20:13.000And I think that's something we ought to remember going forward.
00:20:17.000You know, what's interesting about it as well is that, you know, you could see that Senator Cornyn was starting to experience, you know, he could sense where the wind was blowing and he ends up putting out ads about Islam, which was new for him.
00:20:30.000I'm curious, just the feel on the ground in Texas.
00:20:33.000How big of an issue is the Islam topic?
00:20:37.000I mean, this is one of the top issues that I hear on the ground from my constituents all the time.
00:20:43.000Every time I do an event where I meet and take questions from constituents, which is pretty often, I get a question on Islam, and it's usually one of the first ones.
00:20:52.000The reality is, especially in the DFW Metroplex, which is near where my district is, you've got entire cities, entire communities that are being transformed by mass Islamic migration.1.00
00:21:39.000I had a mayor in my district, and I won't say which town or which mayor, who told me that he's had a massive influx of people coming in on H 1B visas.
00:21:51.000And he said, in one of the neighborhoods there, they typically have a Christmas tree where they celebrate Christmas as sort of a neighborhood, as a community.
00:22:00.000And so many of these people came into that community, they became a majority, and they went up to him and they said, We're not celebrating Christmas here.
00:22:08.000We're doing Dwali, but we're not doing Christmas.
00:22:49.000David French, we showed his tweet earlier talking about, you know, essentially, can we just get rid of the pretense that we care about somebody's morality?
00:22:58.000Like the corruption is a feature, not a bug.
00:23:00.000What do you say to those people that are attacking Ken Paxton's character like this?
00:23:05.000I would say I'd like to better understand how you can possibly look at somebody who is so obsessed with transgender children, who will take scripture and contort it in the most Demonic and perverse ways to suggest that the Bible is somehow a pro abortion document, that Mary actually gave consent to have to birth the Son of God, and how that is evidence that the Bible supports abortion and is pro choice.
00:23:51.000Well, I'm tired of having teachers tell young children that they're born in the wrong body.
00:23:57.000I'm tired of having politicians like James Tallarico who say that our southern border should have a welcome mat on it.0.97
00:24:04.000I'm tired of freaks and lunatics like Tallarico.0.76
00:24:08.000Who are trying to tell us that there are six different sexes, which he said, and I'd love to hear him explain, by the way, what the other four sexes are.0.95
00:24:16.000I think the people of Texas would like to hear too.
00:24:19.000Integrity means also having not contorting scripture and living in reality, and Tallarico certainly does not.
00:24:29.000So I want to go to, I completely agree, by the way, and I think that was really well said.
00:24:34.000You know, we've been longtime friends with Chip Roy.
00:24:45.000Well, both Chip and Mays are good friends of mine, and they're both very conservative.
00:24:51.000And I think whenever I looked at that race, my big takeaway was we've done pretty well in the GOP, at least in this race, to have two phenomenal candidates there to choose from.
00:25:03.000But the reality, I would say, is that President Trump is the leader of the party.
00:25:08.000His endorsement means more than anything else, but also the people of Texas are looking for somebody who they can.
00:25:14.000Really believe is going to be with the president all the time.
00:25:17.000And that was a key issue in that race.
00:25:21.000So, listen, again, I think that both of those candidates are really good.
00:25:24.000I have an enormous amount of respect for Chip Roy.
00:25:29.000He's somebody who has fought very hard in Congress for conservative values.
00:25:34.000And he's somebody, by the way, who doesn't just fight in front of the camera, but who goes to the mat whenever the cameras are all gone, behind the scenes, whenever nobody can see it.
00:25:45.000And he is somebody who I think is going to be doing, is going to stick around, and we'll probably hear a lot more from.
00:26:35.000I would also say that the other, you know, I actually believe that Paxton would have won without Trump's endorsement.
00:26:42.000So I think while the Trump endorsement is powerful, there's no doubt, I think that just, that's what led to this landslide, right?
00:26:49.000It just kind of, It kind of pushed it way over the edge here.
00:26:53.000But I think there's a critical component here.
00:26:58.000If you look at South Carolina, I'm not asking you to delve into controversial topics.
00:27:02.000So, Lindsey Graham, he's got the Trump endorsement.
00:27:04.000But man, if I'm Lindsey Graham, I am, in the words of Jeremy Carl, sweating bullets today because the base has an instinct of who actually represents the America First principles that we all ascribe to and espouse.
00:27:44.000I think somebody who does the same thing behind closed doors that they talk about publicly.
00:27:50.000I'll give you an example the Save America Act, sort of related to the immigration debate.
00:27:56.000But this is something that we've known for a very long time.
00:27:59.000The only way realistically to get the Save America Act across the finish line.0.93
00:28:04.000Is for the Senate to utilize a talking filibuster.
00:28:07.000And if you're going to support the Save America Act, but not support a talking filibuster, both publicly and behind closed doors, that's not good enough anymore.
00:28:17.000And I don't think that the people of Texas are looking for that type of leadership.
00:28:21.000They want somebody who's going to get it done.
00:28:23.000And that was a big issue in this election cycle.
00:28:26.000In fact, I think at one point, Ken Paxton had mentioned he would drop out of the race so that leadership would get the Save America Act passed.
00:28:37.000And that's something that voters look to.
00:28:48.000And it's also people just recognizing and feeling comfortable that the representative that they're sending to Washington is somebody who's looking out for them and not looking out for Washington, D.C. or foreigners or anybody else.
00:31:18.000Also, AOC is wearing a hijab in front of Mamdani, which is.
00:31:23.000That was yesterday, but nonetheless, it's very iconic, yes.0.67
00:31:28.000But I want to zero in on this fraud thing because I think it's one of the best things this administration is doing, especially when you talk about, you know, there's people in the base or in the movement that are frustrated about Iran or what have you.
00:31:40.000Remember, there is a lot of firepower being aimed right here at addressing issues right here at home, like fraud.
00:31:47.000And this clip ended up kind of making the rounds yesterday.
00:32:06.000Fraud is every bit as bad as President Trump said it was, and even worse.
00:32:11.000All of the systems in our country were set up based on the honor system.
00:32:15.000They're set up based on the idea that you could trust the average person through their own morality to abide by the rules and comply with the law.0.74
00:32:23.000We became a society, as you've seen with the Somali refugee problem in Minnesota, where you have a large number of people that are not following the honor system.1.00
00:32:33.000They're not playing by the rules, they're not abiding by our laws.1.00
00:32:35.000And the amount that has been fleeced from us is in the hundreds of billions of dollars.
00:32:40.000I believe, based on what I've seen and what I've heard, is that we could balance the federal budget if the only dollars that went out of the Treasury went to individuals who were properly, lawfully, correctly eligible to receive them.
00:32:55.000So, just making sure you heard that last line again, that was from yesterday.
00:32:58.000It's not the cabinet meeting, but he said that he believes, from what he's seen and what he's heard, that we could balance the federal budget if.
00:33:06.000The only dollars that went out of the Treasury went to individuals who properly, lawfully, and correctly are eligible to receive them.
00:33:14.000Now, I don't know if that's 100% true, but it's directionally true.
00:33:20.000And that means that we owe it to American taxpayers to make sure that we are being extraordinarily detailed and precise and holding accountable the fraudsters, but also making sure the dollars that leave the Treasury are going to people that actually deserve them and are eligible for them.
00:33:37.000Because if you can come close to balancing the federal budget, that would be an extraordinary achievement.
00:33:45.000We're at the tip of the iceberg stage.
00:33:47.000But they are taking this issue extraordinarily seriously.
00:33:50.000And I think one of the reasons is because it's extraordinarily politically popular, and it should be.
00:33:56.000This is not one of those issues that, you know, we're used to vice presidents getting these pet projects, Borders R, Kamala Harris, and doing absolutely nothing with them.
00:34:06.000Instead, the vice president is on this like white on rice, and I'm here for it.
00:34:10.000Yesterday, he announced this bipartisan effort working with state AGs, and he even had the AGs of Oregon and Connecticut present.
00:34:22.000One of the things we've realized in combating fraud is that the resources of the federal government, while vast, can be supplemented and aided by a lot of the people who know best what's happening in their states, which is the attorneys general represented here today.
00:34:36.000And they have a lot of legal resources, they have a lot of prosecutorial resources, and of course, they have the desire to prevent fraud as much as we do.
00:34:42.000And so I appreciate these leaders for being here because.
00:34:44.000We're going to work together, state and federal government, to try to combat fraud.
00:34:48.000I'm particularly gratified here that this is not a partisan effort.
00:34:51.000I believe we have a couple of representatives from the attorney generals in Connecticut and Oregon.
00:34:57.000And as I've said repeatedly, this does not need to be, this should not be a partisan effort.
00:35:04.000Everybody should care about rooting out fraud.
00:35:05.000Everybody should care about saving the American taxpayers' money.
00:35:08.000He's very charitable because I'm not sure that if you go to California, they do care that much about rooting out fraud.
00:35:15.000I think they've created very successful systems of we'll look the other way on fraud.
00:35:22.000And in return, you keep getting your, for example, your union voters electing us.
00:35:27.000You can definitely, or your community members voting to elect us in blocks.
00:35:31.000You can very much get a self sustaining system.
00:35:34.000And especially with something like Medicaid, most of the money is federal dollars.
00:35:37.000So you just have it's classic moral hazard where if the state is overseeing the program, but it's federal money that's actually paying for it, they just, They're just naturally not going to care about it nearly as much.
00:35:49.000And we really need to restore that aspect of it because it's a lot more than just the raw dollar amounts here.
00:35:55.000The raw dollar amounts are vast, those matter.
00:35:58.000But on top of that, this is driving so much illegal immigration because they say, come here, we'll have a whole racket set up where you can set up this business, we'll get a ton of money.
00:36:08.000In fact, the more people we bring in, the more money we can get.
00:36:11.000So it's driving a ton of the immigration.
00:36:16.000For example, we've talked about the bad vibes over America where young people are dispirited.1.00
00:36:21.000They feel this way because they can see these newly arrived immigrant groups scamming the system, getting away with it, going almost totally unpunished.0.98
00:36:34.000I'm being denied opportunities so scammers can get this.
00:36:36.000And if you visibly smash these people to bits, send them to prison for a decade, two decades, and then deport them, and deport them, revoke their citizenship if you can.
00:36:47.000They will feel much better about their country.0.97
00:36:49.000They'll feel like they have a country and a government that looks out for them, which we used to have in America.
00:36:54.000Americans used to think their government was competent and cared about them, and they don't think that anymore.
00:36:59.000And they think that for a very good reason.
00:37:06.000We expect that there are tens of thousands of people who are collecting fraudulent money to take care of people, and they're not actually taking care of them.
00:37:14.000We're, of course, going to get to the root of as much of it as we can.
00:37:17.000That is, of course, the hospice racket.
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00:39:16.000The Trump endorsement certainly sealed the deal.
00:39:18.000But I think looking at the margin, there are people who are asking me who are pretty knowledgeable, Andrew, they pay attention to this stuff.
00:39:24.000They were asking me pretty late in the day yesterday, does Cornyn actually have a chance?
00:39:27.000I said, hell nah, he absolutely does not.
00:40:12.000And we talked about this, I think, last time we were on, but the way he got Trump's endorsement, By backing Cornyn to a corner and saying, You get the save act done and I'll drop out.
00:40:35.000You know, he is a heretic, actually, which I don't say lightly, but he, I mean, I just don't, I've been wrestling with, you know, okay, put it this way.0.95
00:41:07.000And I found a new data point while I was going through my show earlier today because I was playing, of course, the clip that we've all played before of him using the Bible and the story of the Virgin Mary in particular to justify abortion, which already is pretty demonic in and of itself.
00:41:21.000But there was another thing where he was talking about his vegan campaign.
00:41:25.000And he was saying he doesn't want a vegan campaign, not because he doesn't believe in animal cruelty, but because he believes it's climate change.
00:41:32.000And I was just starting to think about wait a minute.
00:41:35.000There was actually a chance for him to maybe draw on biblical principles to try to force some sort of strained left wing agenda.
00:41:41.000And he really made it about the climate.
00:41:43.000He made it about the false pagan God of climate change.
00:41:46.000And it makes you think that he really truly is just a manipulator.
00:43:14.000Yeah, I think there's probably some stuff if you really want to parse through Paxton's history that's imperfect, but you can do the same with so many people, Donald Trump being one of them.
00:43:23.000And I think ultimately, a lot of people who are going to be voting, they're going to be looking at the future.
00:43:28.000And do you want to have a guy who is this beta?
00:43:31.000Breitbart, this is, I don't think I've ever said this specifically, but we've stylized it now.
00:43:36.000My newsroom has permission not to capitalize the T in Talarico.
00:43:53.000I haven't gone through them to the extent where I know if the court of public opinion has been accurate in them convicting him of this stuff.
00:44:00.000But I do think that when he gets to Washington, he's going to be a leader.
00:44:22.000I think he probably would have if Trump did not endorse.
00:44:25.000And I got to think a little harder about it.
00:44:28.000If Trump chose to endorse Cornyn, could he have overcome it?
00:44:31.000And I do think there is a possibility, which is why your question is so interesting.
00:44:35.000Because again, I think that people are so fed up with the fact that Cornyn 24 years in the Senate and can't point to a single accomplishment.
00:45:32.000I think Trump's mosaic, where he picks and chooses the best ideas from Democrats of yesteryear, from populists, and even occasionally the establishment, he seemed to take everyone's best ideas.
00:45:41.000I think that's the ascendant political worldview right now on the right.
00:45:45.000So I want to flag something that Tala Rico said.
00:45:49.000I want to thank, he said this last night as the results came in.
00:45:51.000I want to thank Senator John Cornyn for his years representing our state.
00:45:55.000We don't agree on everything, but we still believe in public service.
00:45:58.000To Senator Cornyn's supporters, you have a place in our campaign.
00:47:51.000Now they're demanding it go back to 20%.
00:47:54.000Meanwhile, in California, near and dear to your heart, Alex, the UC faculty is demanding a return to standardized test scores because it has become so bad, especially in STEM fields, that they are having to return to teaching middle school math to some of the enrollees.
00:48:16.000Yeah, I think this all starts with the teachers' unions.
00:48:18.000This has been the original sin of America's failing education system, which are essentially just vehicles for Democrat left wing politics, try to woke fire schools.
00:48:26.000They've ruined our primary and secondary schools, and I think that's part of the problem that gets up to the universities.
00:48:32.000The federal government, of course, has ruined the universities in many ways by allowing these loans, which have just been slush funds for the universities.
00:48:38.000So students borrow on the cheap, and it just all goes to these universities, makes them all fat and happy.
00:48:45.000So, as Charlie wrote better than anyone, I mean, this is a completely broken system, and there's really not a lot of hope that things could fix it.0.78
00:48:53.000These are probably good starts, but they're not going to call out the real problems.
00:48:56.000They're not going to say the unions need to get out of the way in the public schools and we need to start having excellence.
00:49:01.000We need to start demanding parents step up and work more with their kids, their students, so that there's a higher demand on excellence at a younger age.
00:49:09.000None of that stuff's going to make it all the way down to the families and the communities, but it is at least nice to acknowledge that perhaps.
00:49:17.000Under left wing guidance, our schools have just failed.
00:49:21.000Well, it's just we basically did three decades worth of institutional destruction in the course of one or two years, circa 2020.
00:49:31.000We had the abolish the police virus, which a lot of people remember, which manifested not just in terms of cutting police officers, but making it harder for them to do their job, telling them don't enforce certain laws.
00:49:42.000And so we had a surge of murders, a surge of thefts, a surge of car crashes.
00:49:50.000In a matter of weeks, you just had this cascade of schools saying, We're going to get rid of not just standardized tests, but a lot of them gutted the integrity of their classes where you can get infinite accommodations for your finals.
00:50:04.000You maybe don't need to take a final at all.
00:50:06.000You can retake assignments over and over again.
00:50:09.000And this also infests lower levels of school.
00:50:11.000And we've just totally gotten away from what is, frankly, an obvious fact, which is you can't measure any form of ability or knowledge acquisition unless it's possible to fail.
00:50:23.000And if there's a real expectation that you need to show mastery, and if we don't have that, why do we even spend billions of dollars on the school system at all?
00:50:31.000Just set up a bunch of daycares because that's all they are.
00:50:35.000So it's really when we got away from any sort of a standard, when we got away from we're trying to have it be a meritocratic education system.
00:50:44.000Once we opened that up, once it became a slippery slope that was inevitably we were going to prioritize things like diversity and wokeness and the priorities of the people who funnel the most money into the system, like the universities.
00:51:30.000When at the top of your culture, your family, your business, your country, you have a strong leader that demands.
00:51:38.000Change and transformation and getting back to things like meritocracy, the abolishment of DEI, that tends to filter down even when they fight you, right?
00:51:46.000So you got lawsuits against Harvard, you got lawsuits against Columbia, you got lawsuits against California schools.
00:51:52.000Eventually, that headship starts to filter down throughout the rest of your culture.
00:51:57.000And you're seeing that in higher education as the vibe shift happens, as the feelings towards meritocracy shift, and as we sort of get past some of these dumber ideas of the woke.
00:52:08.000You're seeing this transformation, which can ultimately have a profound transformational effect on your entire culture.
00:52:14.000You're seeing this in higher education now.
00:52:16.000If you go back to the 1930s, for example, there's a little known story about the NYPD, where they had standardized civic service exams.
00:53:00.000We could see that across the country if we just got back to super simple standard things like, oh, standardized test scores at higher education.
00:53:36.000Can you clean up the potholes and the graffiti and the homelessness?
00:53:40.000And that's why he's having such resonance, I think, in the city of Los Angeles.
00:53:44.000But before I get ahead of myself, Alex, you know the city well.
00:53:48.000Does Spencer Pratt have any chance of actually pulling this off?
00:53:53.000I really make a point not to be a total bummer.
00:53:55.000So I'm not going to give you my taken out of context answer.
00:54:00.000But I will tell you this I love everything he's talking about to the point that he's demanding competence from our leadership, and we need that.
00:54:07.000What my biggest fear is first of all, the unions, yet again, are Democrat political arms.
00:54:12.000They run the city, and wherever the unions go, if they're in lockstep behind a certain candidate, that candidate always wins, and he's going to have to.
00:54:19.000He's going to have to break that mold and he's going to have to do it by getting liberal Democrats to vote for him because all the Republicans have left.
00:54:26.000Like for me, for example, I live in LA County.
00:55:22.000Everybody's waiting, waiting to see if the ceasefire holds, waiting to see if the Strait of Hormuz reopens, waiting to see what happens next.
00:57:51.000So then Mr. Thomas Massey, somebody clipped it, and Thomas Massey sort of alleged that I was, or this show was distributed by Israel or something, which is not at all true.
00:58:10.000But in general terms, in broader terms, besides that little scuffle, I'm not an enemy to libertarians.
00:58:19.000I don't agree with libertarianism and a lot of things, but I also understand that we make better friends than enemies.0.87
00:58:24.000And I want to make sure that we're paying heed to this because if you look at the generational breakdown of that race, that is the thing that gives me most pause.
00:58:34.000It was the 65 and over that went really hard for Galrain.
00:58:37.000Anybody under 65, however, Josie, was big for Massey.
00:59:13.000So, it wasn't just MAGA that got Trump elected.
00:59:17.000It was the coalition, as you said, it was MAHA, those MAHA moms, it was the libertarians, it was disaffected liberals, and they all came together.
00:59:25.000On a common platform, we don't want war.
01:00:02.000And that's like Rand Paul, Thomas Massey, Mike Lee.
01:00:05.000They're all small L libertarians as well.
01:00:07.000When it comes to big L libertarians, those are the people in the party who might, you know, take their clothes off and stand on stage and say that we should sell crack to babies.0.57
01:00:35.000All right, so, so when it came to and and that that split, so all I like Angela McArdle did a lot of work between the Libertarian Party and MAGA while we were helping to try to get Trump into office because there was a coalition, there were common goals.
01:00:52.000And you know, what sucks is we don't have libertarians, small L libertarians don't have very much representation.
01:01:00.000We don't have very much representation.
01:01:02.000And was it $25 million was put into getting rid of our representation?
01:01:09.000And that's going to be really hard for the small L libertarians to come back from.
01:01:13.000Now, small L libertarians don't, we don't go to the Democrat side.
01:01:19.000We just like what Thomas Massey had said probably a few years ago, he said, you know, there's a reason why all the small L libertarians in Congress have an R by their name because that's how we get that representation.
01:01:30.000So we're not going to go become Democrats.
01:01:32.000We're not going to go vote for Democrats.
01:01:34.000What happens is we were excited to vote for Trump.
01:02:07.000There is going to be a time where he is no longer in office and there's never going to be a populist like him again.
01:02:12.000So, when it comes to that, that's what small libertarians need to figure out how to vote, how to get behind that message, and how to kind of get the message of the Constitution and that back into the agenda.
01:02:31.000Well, I was just thinking, like, what does stand out for that libertarian faction?
01:02:35.000Because what stands out with me with Massey, for example, he was.
01:02:39.000Is famous as one of the more libertarian members of Congress, but his branding over the past year is not on what I would say is a particularly libertarian issue.
01:02:48.000I don't know that there's a specific libertarian nexus to Epstein stuff, but what are the issues that stand out the most to small L libertarians in your view?
01:02:59.000Spending, abiding by the Constitution.
01:03:02.000So one thing that Thomas Massey does is he is rigidly for the Constitution.
01:03:37.000Yeah, so Josie, I actually want to keep taking our medicine here because I think it's important.
01:03:44.000We had another segment with you, and we can focus on the future there, but I want to make sure we learn the lesson of the present right now.
01:03:51.000Thomas Massey credit with the big beautiful bill, for example, like he stripped some things out of that, ultimately got some stuff accomplished, then still didn't vote for the final bill, but I think that was still productive, right?
01:04:34.000So when Trump came to the Libertarian Convention to talk to the Libertarians, he made us, he made the country 20 promises.
01:04:43.000He made us about 32 different promises, sort of statement promises and then implied promises.0.66
01:04:50.000So he said, I'm the anti war president.0.78
01:04:54.000And what are we supposed to think from that?
01:04:56.000And then about cutting grenade, he promised to get the neocons out of the establishment and drain it of the globalists and drain it of the communists.
01:05:03.000And I feel like he's got Lindsey Graham standing next to him on every take endorsing this war with Iran.
01:05:12.000And one thing that I've heard more than anything is when President Trump encouraged people to listen to Mark Levin and Mark Thiessen, I have heard that.
01:05:24.000So many times being like, people just being like, what are we doing here?
01:05:28.000Because that did feel, I think, especially to a small L libertarian, like a betrayal of maybe the things he said to the convention.
01:05:56.000Then there was, there's nothing about, The Save Act wasn't put into the big beautiful bill.
01:06:00.000There were things that were sort of promised to go into it that weren't into it because Thomas Massey couldn't get them in.
01:06:04.000And there's a deep state that's still there, no matter what we want to think, that's preventing a lot of the stuff that needed to go into the bill to not go into the bill.
01:06:11.000So there was still a tremendous amount of spending.
01:06:13.000We were still going to have a deficit problem.
01:06:16.000And Thomas Massey has always voted against spending.
01:06:19.000The one time he didn't vote against spending, it was one time.
01:06:22.000And that was because he was told that, or into the bill was written that there would be a 1% cut in spending every single year.
01:06:31.000And so he's like, well, I'll vote for that because that's a cut in spending.
01:07:43.000It was him running on trump's platform because that's what his constituents voted for and that's what they were promised, and that was him trying to fulfill that.
01:07:52.000And I know it might feel like clicks, like trying to get clicks, but if you know who Thomas Massey is, he's very principled.
01:07:59.000And no, I listen, and that has long been the way people perceived him.
01:08:05.000He was just this like MIT guy that, you know, I think doesn't he do like raw milk and all that stuff?
01:08:18.000But, you know, I think what This is getting at is when it was like, you know, the Ro Khanna and the, you know, calling Republicans the pedo protection party and things like that.
01:08:29.000I think, I think, you know, eventually you're going to make some enemies when you do that sort of thing.
01:08:34.000So I listen, I understand both sides of the argument.
01:08:36.000I was going to be willing to live with whatever the results were.
01:08:39.000But again, learning our lessons here because I want to make sure that we don't alienate the small L libertarians.
01:08:45.000I think it's really important to build the coalition as big as we can.
01:08:49.000Politics is about addition, not subtraction.
01:09:30.000Massey filed paperwork to run for something in 2028, and that's going to give small libertarians some degree of hope, whether it's to get his seat back from Ed Galrain.
01:09:44.000I don't know if they're going to put another $25 million to take the seat away.
01:10:02.000Massey was the one who went on the floor and he demanded a quorum.
01:10:06.000He demanded that people for the CARES Act didn't stay home and that the Congress went to work and they voted so that the country wouldn't die in an empty chamber.
01:10:17.000It's a very famous speech that never would have happened if we didn't have a principled constitutionalist in Congress.
01:10:25.000So it's really hard that we're not going to have that anymore.
01:10:28.000for another two years and just the things that could happen, the things that won't be exposed because of that.
01:10:34.000But Trump can, and it's not just the small libertarians, it's the young people.
01:10:41.000No, I totally, this is why I'm having this conversation, Josie, because you're right.
01:10:45.000It's not just the small, it's to the extent that young people are engaged in politics, a lot of it is tinged with the small libertarian.
01:10:53.000I mean, a lot of young people just think that way intuitively.
01:10:57.000And I think that's great and fine because it, again, this adherence to the Constitution, these foundational principles, I think it's really important.0.91
01:11:06.000And this is why I took such note of the Massey race, is because I saw the demographic breakdown.
01:11:12.000So if you are not 65, you are voting for Thomas Massey.0.73
01:11:21.000But the point is, this is really important that we deal with this because a lot of these kids are going to stay home.
01:11:26.000A lot of these kids, they don't know how to defend what's happening in Iran, they don't know how to defend any tinge of censorship, right?
01:11:34.000So these are these big overarching issues and basic principles that we need to.
01:11:38.000Adhere to if we're going to have any hope.
01:11:41.000The question, I guess, is, and I'm kind of getting at different angles of this, but is hope lost or can we recruit these people back to show up, maybe not for the midterms, but 2028?
01:11:53.000Trump needs to leave Thomas Massey alone forever.
01:11:55.000Like he needs to drop it with that because every single time he says he does anything against Thomas Massey, he loses more.
01:12:07.000And I know he doesn't have Charlie as his advisor anymore, he has Mark Levin.
01:12:12.000So that vacuum, that void that Charlie, when he left us, that was opened up to forces that are not for what he believed in, and they slid in, and now they're in his ear.
01:12:28.000And so if somebody else could sort of get in there and talk to him, or if Mark Levin can get out of there, that would be the best thing for the country.
01:12:38.000And when it comes to the young people, people always say our country was founded by a bunch of old white guys.
01:12:43.000No, it was founded by guys in their 20s and 30s.
01:12:52.000This is the age that builds revolutions.
01:12:57.000And that's why it's so appealing to Turning Point USA and to the small libertarians who aren't that young anymore, but are still feeling that.
01:13:08.000Well, I know, Josie, that I can't remember the context of it, but some sort of controversy, a little dust up on Twitter or something happened, and Charlie reached out to you.
01:13:20.000I know it meant a lot to you where he said, Well, we'll keep you, Josie, with a smiley face.
01:13:47.000And so, anyways, I hope people understood the heart of this conversation is that we need.
01:13:53.000To keep the bridge with small L libertarianism, like even if you disagree with a bunch of the policies, you can understand that we need to grow the coalition and keep the coalition together.
01:14:04.000And, you know, we need to keep young people engaged and give them hope.
01:14:09.000And a lot of young people are very idealistic.
01:14:11.000And when they see hypocrisy or the things that don't make sense, they tend to give in to nihilism.