The Charlie Kirk Show - The Fight for Liberty Every Single Day — LIVE from the First Liberty Institute

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00:00:58.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:59.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:01:02.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:05.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:08.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:09.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:10.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:12.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

00:01:17.000 Turning point USA.

00:01:19.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:27.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:31.000 So I thought this would be a great time to bring up Charlie.

00:01:33.000 And as he's coming up, I want you, you know, some of you haven't seen Charlie and kind of what he does.

00:01:39.000 You might have seen him on TV.

00:01:40.000 So I thought I'd show a little clip of him on a college campus, which is kind of how he got started and give you a feel for how Charlie got started and what he does.

00:01:49.000 Israel has done nothing but defended their borders since their legal declaration of existence in 1948.

00:01:57.000 Israel bombed Lebanon and I was there and I was evacuated in 2006.

00:02:01.000 As a defensive measure when Hezbollah, the terrorist, started attacking them from the north.

00:02:06.000 Hezbollah is a recognized international terrorist organization. 0.95

00:02:09.000 Israel should do everything it possibly can to obliterate Hezbollah. 0.92

00:02:11.000 Can I ask you? 0.94

00:02:12.000 Are you pro-Hezbullah or?

00:02:13.000 Can I ask you a question? 1.00

00:02:14.000 Sure, happy to.

00:02:15.000 What formal education I do have?

00:02:17.000 Plenty.

00:02:18.000 I mean, formal education.

00:02:21.000 If you're going to argue from authority, that's a logical fallacy.

00:02:24.000 Tell me why I'm wrong.

00:02:25.000 Don't tell me how many degrees you have.

00:02:27.000 Don't ask me to change the conversation.

00:02:28.000 I'm actually small.

00:02:30.000 I would argue I'm more informed because I didn't go to college and I've traveled the world and I've met with world leaders and I've read many books.

00:02:36.000 So tell me how am I oppressive?

00:02:40.000 Can you name one example of how I'm oppressive?

00:02:42.000 I can name a lot of examples.

00:02:43.000 Can you name one?

00:02:44.000 Name one example of how I'm oppressive because you just said it.

00:02:46.000 I'm not literally here telling people that they are wrong about using their...

00:02:48.000 Well, no, they just don't have facts.

00:02:49.000 Can you tell me one time that I've been wrong about anything I've said?

00:02:52.000 Tell me a time that Israel has launched an offensive war.

00:02:55.000 They didn't. 0.94

00:02:55.000 They're attacking Hezbollah. 0.94

00:02:57.000 It's within their borders. 0.66

00:02:58.000 It goes to Lebanon.

00:02:59.000 They don't just attack Hezbollah.

00:03:00.000 Hezbollah occupies southern Lebanon, which is Iranian-funded, is it not?

00:03:03.000 Really?

00:03:03.000 I had no idea.

00:03:04.000 Thank you for informing me.

00:03:05.000 Anytime.

00:03:06.000 Maybe if you didn't go to college, you would learn more.

00:03:10.000 As Charlie said, that's an old video.

00:03:12.000 I know.

00:03:13.000 I just wanted to go back to the basics when he was just starting.

00:03:16.000 In fact, let's go to the very basics, which is when you were growing up, how did you get, like, I mean, because we're going to talk a little bit about how you started.

00:03:28.000 And at a really early age, you were speaking.

00:03:34.000 You had read a lot.

00:03:35.000 I mean, how did this, what influenced you to kind of be where you were at age 16 and 17 and 18?

00:03:42.000 Well, honor to be here.

00:03:43.000 I love First Liberty, and all of you should give generously to First Liberty.

00:03:46.000 They do great work.

00:03:47.000 And I don't say that about a lot because I run a nonprofit, and there's a lot of talkers out there.

00:03:52.000 And First Liberty, they play to win, I got to tell you, and they win a lot.

00:03:56.000 And the country's in a much better place because of them.

00:03:59.000 So you guys should really get behind them tonight.

00:04:02.000 So yeah, I started Turning Point.

00:04:03.000 I started in this fight 11 years ago because I was really worried that we were losing the country.

00:04:08.000 Boy, what do I think now?

00:04:10.000 That's a whole separate topic.

00:04:12.000 I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago.

00:04:15.000 I saw the beginning stages of this indoctrination of Marxism, collectivism, totalitarianism.

00:04:21.000 And I was really worried that the younger generation was not being taught these ideas.

00:04:26.000 And it was mostly focused on economics at the time because we used to talk about that stuff a lot in our country.

00:04:31.000 Now we're just getting more to the fundamental things of men can give birth or whatever kids are learning now on these campuses.

00:04:39.000 But the motivating factor for me remains exactly the same, which is I do not, I'm not a good spectator.

00:04:46.000 I don't like bullies and I hate evil.

00:04:50.000 I hate evil because I love God.

00:04:52.000 And it says in Psalm 97, 10, those who love God should hate evil.

00:04:56.000 I don't think Christians are doing a good enough job of hating evil in America right now.

00:05:00.000 I think that we're doing a very poor job of that. 0.90

00:05:03.000 I think we do other things well.

00:05:05.000 I think we love the homeless and feed the hungry.

00:05:10.000 I don't think we're hating evil very well.

00:05:12.000 And so that's just my, that's how I was raised.

00:05:16.000 It's how I'm built.

00:05:18.000 I don't sit on the sidelines well when I see something I love abused by people that I think are filled with demonic spirits.

00:05:26.000 And I don't say that lightly.

00:05:27.000 It is diabolical what's happening in our country right now.

00:05:30.000 It is a spiritual war that manifests in the physical.

00:05:33.000 And I want to do my part.

00:05:35.000 I've been doing this for 11 years.

00:05:37.000 The Lord has blessed our organization and our effort immensely.

00:05:40.000 And the animating force 11 years ago was and is still to this day is I'm not going to do all of it, but I am going to play my role.

00:05:49.000 And my role is going to be waking up early and going to bed late, traveling to college and high school campuses and trying to teach people, young people in particular, why this is the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:06:01.000 And now it has kind of turned into a survival mission of whether or not this republic can continue.

00:06:08.000 The opposition, the revolution, as we should call them, they are steps away from the Bastille.

00:06:13.000 They're very close to taking over the entire country.

00:06:16.000 They're not there yet.

00:06:17.000 There's still some counter moves we can take.

00:06:19.000 But 11 years ago, I was always just kind of the odd teenager, if you will, that was very worried about losing the country.

00:06:26.000 Turns out my worries were justified.

00:06:28.000 Now, I think one of the things you were speaking at a conference or something, and a guy who I know passed away recently, but was a real mentor and friend of you, basically kind of grabbed you as a young man and said, you just need to not go to college and you need to start an organization.

00:06:48.000 Tell us about that because it was a pretty brave thing to do.

00:06:51.000 It was brave on his part because then he told it to my parents, which one of the greatest accomplishments that I've been able to make is now finally I saw this news report.

00:07:04.000 I said, you know what, I've made an impact for the betterment of America.

00:07:06.000 College enrollment is down 15% in the last year.

00:07:09.000 It really, it's a really, really great thing.

00:07:12.000 Some of you aren't applauding because that's still, it still hasn't yet sunk in.

00:07:18.000 It will.

00:07:18.000 Just wait.

00:07:20.000 My hypothesis is correct.

00:07:21.000 Colleges are destroying America.

00:07:23.000 I stand by that. 1.00

00:07:24.000 So, yeah, at the time, look, I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago.

00:07:29.000 It's very much heretical where I grew up to even say you are not going to a four-year college.

00:07:36.000 There's so much social pressure for that.

00:07:38.000 You know, you get the question of what is wrong with you.

00:07:41.000 You get the question if you are considered to be a good student, which I was, or you're involved in athletics.

00:07:46.000 They say, hey, where are you going to college?

00:07:48.000 Not why are you going to college?

00:07:50.000 It's built in, right?

00:07:51.000 It's the next step.

00:07:53.000 And I spoke at an event.

00:07:54.000 This was right before my high school graduation.

00:07:56.000 I was going to go to West Point.

00:07:57.000 I didn't get in.

00:07:58.000 Ended up being the best thing that never happened to me.

00:08:01.000 God knew what he was doing.

00:08:02.000 And a man who's now passed away who became my mentor, Bill Montgomery, came up to me and said, Don't go to college.

00:08:09.000 I said, What are you talking about?

00:08:10.000 Like, who are you?

00:08:11.000 And he said, You have a gift.

00:08:12.000 You're able to speak.

00:08:13.000 You can organize people.

00:08:14.000 The country needs you a lot more than a college needs you.

00:08:16.000 And I believe it was the Holy Spirit speaking through him.

00:08:20.000 And he was somewhat prophetic.

00:08:22.000 And he said, You could start a youth organization that could really make a serious impact on the country.

00:08:27.000 He believed in me more than anybody else.

00:08:29.000 And that's a really good lesson for a lot of you.

00:08:31.000 You know, I get asked a lot from people in their 70s or 80s, Charlie, what can I do?

00:08:36.000 And I always ask, How many young people are you mentoring?

00:08:39.000 And if the answer is less than five, then I don't want to hear it.

00:08:42.000 Why are you not actively mentoring a teenager right now?

00:08:45.000 Because somebody who was 72 actively mentored me, and that's why Turning Point USA exists today.

00:08:50.000 That's a beautiful story, isn't it?

00:08:51.000 So please give back, not just with your money, but with your time.

00:08:54.000 Actively mentor young people.

00:08:55.000 They need mentors.

00:08:56.000 Oh my goodness, is there a mentor need in our country right now?

00:08:59.000 And then we were off to the races, right?

00:09:01.000 So I took a gap year.

00:09:02.000 It's been a gap decade.

00:09:05.000 And not a lot of people believed in us, you know, for years.

00:09:09.000 I mean, I've been to Houston many times throughout the years.

00:09:11.000 I know the city, and I've seen how the city has changed.

00:09:13.000 My goodness, has your beautiful home been taken over by leftists?

00:09:17.000 We could talk about that too.

00:09:18.000 It's not good.

00:09:21.000 When I see billboards that say go meatless in downtown Houston, I say these people should not be welcome around here.

00:09:28.000 I mean, vegan in Harris County.

00:09:30.000 What is this all about?

00:09:31.000 This is Texas.

00:09:32.000 Anyway, that's a separate issue.

00:09:34.000 But not the Houston I remember, that's for sure.

00:09:37.000 But I'll tell you this, though, Kelly: is that it is the Lord.

00:09:39.000 He's been so good to us.

00:09:41.000 We've tried to remain faithful.

00:09:43.000 And now we are the number one organization of our kind in the country on high school campuses, college campuses.

00:09:48.000 We have a whole outreach program with churches.

00:09:51.000 We have Turning Point Academy.

00:09:52.000 We have one of the top podcasts out there.

00:09:54.000 We do stuff on radio.

00:09:55.000 We do stuff on television.

00:09:56.000 And our mission remains the same, which is good people have to do more to save Western civilization.

00:10:02.000 That these bad people are accelerating at such a rapid pace that if the good people remain idle, they're going to destroy this beautiful country that we love.

00:10:17.000 I want to talk about Turning Point a little bit because when you started, it was like going to campuses, having these, putting up a table, having a discussion.

00:10:26.000 And it started to try to bring truth into these college campuses.

00:10:30.000 But that has grown dramatically, right?

00:10:33.000 So I don't know.

00:10:34.000 Last time I remember, you had like a thousand chapters and high schools and colleges, but you've gone even to Turning Point Faith and podcast and radio.

00:10:45.000 And so tell us about all the aspects, kind of where you started and where you are now.

00:10:51.000 Yeah, I mean, it started with, you know, my parents' garage, which is actually great because big companies tend to start garages, Apple, HP, Google.

00:11:01.000 I guess we're no different, right?

00:11:02.000 So we started in a garage with a vision and a dream, no money, no connections, no idea what I was doing.

00:11:09.000 I had a work ethic and a mentor.

00:11:11.000 And I happened to live in a free society.

00:11:13.000 And I wanted it really bad.

00:11:15.000 I wanted to grow something.

00:11:16.000 I felt that I saw this vision that could manifest.

00:11:20.000 And now, you know, fast forward 11 years later, we have more high school chapters than we have college chapters.

00:11:25.000 We have well over 1,650 chapters total at Turning Point USA.

00:11:30.000 Today, we hosted a TPUSA event in Austin, Texas, with thousands of people on the steps of the state capitol.

00:11:40.000 We have some of the most amazing success stories of people that have come through our ranks.

00:11:44.000 Candace Owens got her start with us. 1.00

00:11:46.000 Brandon Tatum got his start with us.

00:11:48.000 Ana Paulina Luna, Isabel Brown, William Witt, some of the biggest voices in the entire conservative movement started as people that we elevated and put on college campuses.

00:11:57.000 We have reached billions of people through our online content, podcasts, radio.

00:12:02.000 Our original budget was $17,000.

00:12:04.000 Praise the Lord, will surpass $65 million this year with well over 250,000 grassroots donors, many of you who donate to us.

00:12:13.000 So thank you, those of you that donate.

00:12:15.000 And we just keep growing.

00:12:16.000 And I believe the Lord is rewarding us, and many of you continue to invest in us because we operate with urgency.

00:12:24.000 We are a gritty, hustle-oriented organization.

00:12:27.000 I could tell you there's a lot of talkers in the conservative movement.

00:12:30.000 You know, I've traveled over the last decade 2,950 days.

00:12:34.000 I'm a million-mile club in every major airline.

00:12:37.000 You know, I've done well over 5,000 hours of speeches, 3,000 hours of radio, 1,500 hours of television.

00:12:43.000 I don't say that to brag, but I don't sit still well.

00:12:46.000 I told you, I'm not a good spectator.

00:12:48.000 We are trying to do our part, right?

00:12:50.000 And Turning Point has now, thanks to God's grace, become a machine, a media machine, an activist machine, an educational machine.

00:12:58.000 And you know this because the left is doing everything they possibly can to destroy us.

00:13:03.000 We are the most attacked organization in America.

00:13:06.000 We brought Riley Gaines to a college campus a couple weeks ago at San Francisco State University.

00:13:10.000 You should applaud Riley Gaines.

00:13:12.000 And they kidnapped her, right?

00:13:16.000 They assaulted her and kidnapped her in a room for three hours because she wanted to defend female sports, the death threats we get on a daily basis. 1.00

00:13:24.000 We had a speaker, Ian Hayworth, at one of our turning point chapters where the activists outside were tearing up Bibles and throwing death threats.

00:13:31.000 My mostly peaceful visit at University of California, Davis, when I was speaking on campus and they came with weapons and broke into windows and Antifa and over 200 police officers had to be mobilized.

00:13:41.000 I'm not saying this stuff to have you make me feel bad for me.

00:13:43.000 We're used to the death threats.

00:13:44.000 We're used to the life alterations.

00:13:46.000 In fact, I love it because if you are not currently under attack, I don't think you're doing anything meaningful against the enemy.

00:13:54.000 Right now is the time for action, everybody.

00:13:57.000 It is generations of sacrifice that we're the recipients of this beautiful republic.

00:14:02.000 And we're in a place right now where it's easy to get comfortable.

00:14:05.000 We're a sizable organization.

00:14:07.000 We have a ton of influence.

00:14:09.000 We have an amazing donor network.

00:14:11.000 We've been super blessed.

00:14:12.000 We're doing the opposite.

00:14:13.000 We're leaning in.

00:14:14.000 We're growing.

00:14:15.000 We want more high school chapters, more college chapters, more homeschool parents, more minds changed by media, more church partners.

00:14:23.000 We could talk into the church thing, which is a huge thing we're doing.

00:14:26.000 But the biggest thing I'm trying to do more than anything else is I'm trying to get more people to independently act with courage and boldness against this totalitarianism that is setting into our country.

00:14:38.000 And it's more widespread than ever before.

00:14:41.000 It is a virus that has taken over our nation.

00:14:44.000 And we need to activate the immune system, which I believe is truth and justice.

00:14:49.000 The number one thing people can do is be a truth teller.

00:14:52.000 It is the greatest way to fight evil.

00:14:55.000 The enemy hates the truth.

00:14:57.000 Satan hates the truth.

00:14:59.000 Truth tellers need to rise in record numbers. 0.95

00:15:06.000 Yeah, I know we've talked about this before, but that book, Live Not By Lies, I think stated it really well, because Alexander Soltzenitson stated it really well.

00:15:14.000 The way you stop this totalitarism, the Marxism, is enough people, not a majority, just enough people have to stand and speak the truth.

00:15:25.000 And Riley Gaines is a great example of that.

00:15:28.000 I do think, I mean, I would love to hear your comment.

00:15:30.000 This congressional attempt to protect women and women's sports in Title IX that just passed the U.S. House with no Democrat votes, I think that's a horrible political position for them.

00:15:43.000 That's going to, they're going to rue the day of standing on that position because I don't think America is with them on that.

00:15:49.000 I hope you're right, Kelly.

00:15:50.000 I'm not so, I don't know the country I live in anymore.

00:15:52.000 I know the conservative movement really well because I hang out with you guys all the time.

00:15:55.000 I know the Christian world. 0.90

00:15:56.000 The Christian world is divided into cowards and courageous people. 1.00

00:15:59.000 So I know the Christian world really well. 1.00

00:16:01.000 And most Christians are cowards. 1.00

00:16:03.000 We could talk about that later. 1.00

00:16:05.000 Most pastards are cowards, but that's a separate issue. 0.94

00:16:08.000 But a lot of courageous Christians, and that's why you guys are here tonight. 0.96

00:16:11.000 I don't know the country I live in.

00:16:12.000 Let me prove it to you.

00:16:13.000 Colorado just passed a law with huge support, and there'll be no backlash saying that if you're 12 years old and you want to medically mutilate yourself, they will pay for your travel to come to Colorado and they'll help subsidize without parental consent.

00:16:27.000 California's on the same thing.

00:16:28.000 Minnesota's looking at it.

00:16:29.000 Oregon, Washington, Massachusetts.

00:16:31.000 So I'm not so sure.

00:16:32.000 I hope there's a backlash, right? 1.00

00:16:34.000 Women's sports is going to be dead in five years. 1.00

00:16:37.000 It just is. 1.00

00:16:38.000 But again, I have very strong opinions on this topic, and you can all feel free to disagree.

00:16:42.000 But at a fundamental level, you're going to know I'm right if you're a Christian.

00:16:45.000 This is deeper than just female sports, okay? 0.97

00:16:47.000 Female sports is a way to build popular support against the trans tyranny. 1.00

00:16:52.000 This is a social contagion from the pit of hell that has taken over more than just female sports, okay? 1.00

00:17:00.000 If we think it ends and begins with female sports, we're wrong. 0.88

00:17:04.000 That's a great issue for us to focus on.

00:17:06.000 We should protect female sports. 1.00

00:17:08.000 However, what is at the root of it?

00:17:10.000 At the root of it is that I get to change nature because I don't like the state that I'm in.

00:17:17.000 At the root of it is a war on God's creation and on God itself. 0.87

00:17:22.000 It is more than female sports. 0.99

00:17:24.000 Look, the female sport issue is very simple: it's mentally deranged men filled with hormone blockers and testosterone therapy that are allowed to compete against women, and we somehow should play into their imaginations and their delusions. 0.95

00:17:37.000 That hopefully we can do. 0.82

00:17:38.000 We can't even do that, Kelly.

00:17:41.000 We can't even have we have NCAA sports where men are allowed to imperialize women's sports, and we call that progress. 1.00

00:17:41.000 We can't. 1.00

00:17:47.000 But at the more fundamental level, it is a moral decay and an opportunity for us to say, Let me tell you what's really wrong here. 1.00

00:17:54.000 What's really wrong is the social contagion of transgenderism, which is that I get to decide for my own nature, that there is no hierarchy, that I get to change my biology. 1.00

00:18:06.000 To think of how insane this is, right? 1.00

00:18:09.000 It is as if my own will triumphs the will of God. 1.00

00:18:14.000 And that is a Western social contagion that's been around a lot longer than the trans craze, everybody. 0.97

00:18:20.000 It's all about me. 0.94

00:18:21.000 It's not about duty to the divine or a transcendent order or understanding your place in the cosmos. 1.00

00:18:27.000 And so, but then the most important part of the trans issue, which is again deeper than female sports, is the tyrannical nature of it. 0.99

00:18:35.000 The TNL GBT stands for tyranny. 0.89

00:18:39.000 Nobody in this room, not a single Christian I have ever met, wants to police other people's imaginations. 1.00

00:18:46.000 Right?

00:18:47.000 We don't care what you imagine or you think of in your own bedroom. 1.00

00:18:51.000 All the trans thing is imagination gone wrong. 1.00

00:18:53.000 That's what it is, right? 1.00

00:18:54.000 It's your delusion against your own reality, your own biological reality, and somehow we have to go along with your imagination.

00:19:02.000 That's the issue.

00:19:04.000 Is that if it was all about their own imagination, this issue would have been over at the beginning.

00:19:08.000 No, no, no, no.

00:19:09.000 They want you to first tolerate it.

00:19:12.000 Then they want you to accept it.

00:19:15.000 Then they want you to celebrate it.

00:19:17.000 And then they want you to participate in it.

00:19:20.000 It is not about respecting trans people or trans people with imagination.

00:19:25.000 No, no, no. 1.00

00:19:26.000 They want you to change your worldview and take a knee to the postmodern God. 0.92

00:19:31.000 They will not stop until every single church has a trans flag. 0.88

00:19:36.000 And even then, they won't stop.

00:19:37.000 These people have evangelistic zeal to them.

00:19:41.000 This is an evil movement, everybody, and it's coming for our kids.

00:19:45.000 It's coming for all of society.

00:19:46.000 And you know why it's coming? 0.92

00:19:48.000 Because decent people are afraid of the alphabet mafia, and you should be. 0.75

00:19:52.000 They are vicious. 0.99

00:19:54.000 They are violent. 1.00

00:19:55.000 They kill Christians. 1.00

00:19:56.000 They just did in Tennessee. 0.97

00:19:57.000 And what does Joe Biden do? 0.88

00:19:59.000 He says, after a trans person kills six Christians, he says, trans people shape the soul of our nation.

00:20:05.000 You might not like this fight. 0.79

00:20:06.000 This fight might make you uncomfortable.

00:20:08.000 You might yearn for the days of live and let live.

00:20:10.000 But I got a tough reality for you.

00:20:12.000 There will be one winner, either reality or the delusional side.

00:20:17.000 I'm on team reality.

00:20:18.000 It's time to win.

00:20:28.000 Talk about turning point faith.

00:20:31.000 No, no.

00:20:33.000 Talk about turning point faith because I don't think most people know what you're doing there.

00:20:37.000 I know I'm speaking to a bunch of pastors coming up.

00:20:40.000 Tell them what you're doing there.

00:20:41.000 Look, and if I'm sort of intense.

00:20:44.000 Sorry.

00:20:47.000 We're losing our country. 1.00

00:20:48.000 I don't really have time to win over the middle.

00:20:50.000 I'm trying to activate the people who care so we could do something.

00:20:54.000 All right.

00:20:54.000 So I know some of you are like, well, you know, boy, that speaker, he was really intense.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, we are intense, okay?

00:21:00.000 They're kidnapping our speakers on college campuses.

00:21:02.000 Excuse the tone, right?

00:21:05.000 Yes.

00:21:06.000 So TPUSA Faith.

00:21:08.000 This is where I really get animated, right?

00:21:10.000 The hope of the world, the hope of America is with Americans, Christians, and pastors.

00:21:14.000 I want to ask you a question.

00:21:16.000 What percentage of pastors do you think gave a sermon celebrating the reversal of Roe versus Wade?

00:21:22.000 Well, it's not zero, but it's less than 5%.

00:21:25.000 I got asked the other day by a wokey pastor. 1.00

00:21:28.000 I call them the wokeys. 0.95

00:21:30.000 There's the wokies, there's the weak, and then there's the courageous, right? 1.00

00:21:32.000 We'll go through all three of them. 1.00

00:21:34.000 And he said, Charlie, when do you think there will be a massive move of God in America?

00:21:39.000 I said, oh, there was.

00:21:41.000 But you were too afraid to mention it at your church.

00:21:44.000 I said, I've been in this for 11 years.

00:21:48.000 I was told by experts and legal people that Roe versus Wade would never be repealed.

00:21:53.000 I was told by people in the church that it's untouchable.

00:21:56.000 Don't even whisper about it.

00:21:56.000 Don't even think about it.

00:21:58.000 Don't even pray about it.

00:21:59.000 Roe versus Wade was repealed last summer.

00:22:02.000 God came as a miracle from the heavens.

00:22:07.000 And 95% of his pastors won't even say thank you.

00:22:13.000 I bet if I went around the room, I could ask, well, I have a great pastor, really.

00:22:16.000 Did he even mention it as saying that this is a divine act from the heavens as an intervention from God to save the unborn?

00:22:21.000 No, he wouldn't.

00:22:22.000 Pastors won't be bothered by that.

00:22:26.000 That'll impact tithes and offerings, man.

00:22:28.000 It screws up the business model.

00:22:30.000 You know, I had a, you reminded me of something.

00:22:34.000 I had a great pastor years ago.

00:22:36.000 Gene Guest, some people know who Gene is, started the whole fellowship Bible church movement all over the world.

00:22:42.000 Great guy.

00:22:44.000 Actually, he started because he was teaching seminary at Dows Theological Seminary.

00:22:48.000 He was teaching ecclesiology, which is the church.

00:22:51.000 And it was during a time of the 70s, 60s, 70s.

00:22:54.000 And they began questioning everything.

00:22:56.000 You know, had the long hair and all that.

00:22:58.000 And he just sort of threw out the Bible and started re-looking at what does the Bible say?

00:23:02.000 And it ended up for him starting a different kind of church.

00:23:06.000 And I was in his congregation once.

00:23:10.000 When he got up, he had seen, he had read a book called The Moral Mandate to Vote about abortion and about voting and what is a Christian responsibility.

00:23:19.000 And he had seen the pictures of his grandkids on the scans from the sonograms.

00:23:26.000 And he talked about this in the sermon.

00:23:30.000 And he said to the congregation, he said, He said, if you are voting and you're not voting on this issue, you're in sin.

00:23:42.000 And then he stopped and he said, I know some of you are going to say, I shouldn't talk about this.

00:23:47.000 He said, I'm your pastor.

00:23:49.000 It's my responsibility to talk.

00:23:51.000 And the place immediately erupted in a standing ovation because people were so hungry to see a pastor willing to stand up and speak to these issues of the day from the Bible.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, and so let me just first brag on the courageous.

00:24:07.000 Okay, there are a lot of great pastors out there.

00:24:09.000 Second Baptist here is a great church here in Houston.

00:24:11.000 Okay, they deserve credit.

00:24:12.000 They're a great church.

00:24:13.000 So I don't mean to dwell on the negative, but they are a minority.

00:24:16.000 That is a minority church in America.

00:24:19.000 The courageous, Jack Hibbs, for example, Pastor Juergen.

00:24:22.000 There are some amazing, amazing pastors, and they must be mentioned.

00:24:26.000 They must be celebrated.

00:24:27.000 They must be platformed.

00:24:28.000 But they are not a majority. 1.00

00:24:29.000 The majority are cowards. 1.00

00:24:31.000 Cowards can be nice people. 1.00

00:24:32.000 Cowards can be sweet people. 1.00

00:24:34.000 Cowards can be great at counseling. 0.99

00:24:36.000 Cowards can be great at getting a parking car ministry outside of their big church. 0.99

00:24:39.000 Cowards can have a great coffee bar. 1.00

00:24:41.000 But cowards need to step up in a wartime for the gospel and do something because you can stop being a coward. 1.00

00:24:48.000 How do you know that you have a coward leading your church? 0.98

00:24:50.000 The Roe versus Wade test is another test. 0.99

00:24:52.000 If your pastor has not mentioned the last 30 days that there is a trans ideology that is targeting Christians with violent, murderous behavior, you have a coward as a pastor. 0.98

00:25:01.000 That's okay. 0.98

00:25:01.000 So what do you do? 0.98

00:25:02.000 Go lovingly confront your coward as a pastor in a room and say, why are you not mentioning this? 0.99

00:25:07.000 Here's what they'll say. 0.99

00:25:08.000 Not my role.

00:25:09.000 That is wrong.

00:25:10.000 Jeremiah 29, 7.

00:25:11.000 Demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.

00:25:16.000 You are commanded in the gospel time and time again to care for the least of these, the children.

00:25:21.000 Children are being mutilated with unbelievably aggressive pharmacological agents, Lupron and other things.

00:25:28.000 It is the church's role to stand up for those that cannot stand up for themselves.

00:25:31.000 Not to mention, they might say, well, we don't do politics around here.

00:25:34.000 Well, then how do you teach Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, and Daniel, who are all counselors to the king, who cared about government for God's purpose?

00:25:41.000 You just kind of gloss over that?

00:25:43.000 How do you talk about how Jesus and the founding fathers had one thing in common?

00:25:47.000 They cited the book of Deuteronomy more than any other book.

00:25:50.000 Both Jesus and the Founding Fathers found a lot of wisdom in Deuteronomy.

00:25:53.000 You know what Deuteronomy talks about more than anything else?

00:25:55.000 Politics.

00:25:56.000 There's a reason why most pastors don't talk about Deuteronomy because it gets people very uncomfortable because their left-wing politics shatter as soon as you read about civil and moral government, separation of powers, consent to the governed, and individual rights, due process, presumption of innocence, not favoring a man in the court of law, whether his wealth comes into a factor.

00:26:13.000 Pastors need to be teaching this verse by verse, but that's the problem.

00:26:18.000 Bad theology leads to bad politics, is that pastors far too often are afraid of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, the books of Moses, the Pentateuch.

00:26:27.000 Instead, they just focus on their own myopic version of the gospel.

00:26:31.000 I love the gospel.

00:26:32.000 But Jesus said, create disciples, not converts of all nations.

00:26:36.000 Disciples go deep.

00:26:38.000 Converts is getting people to raise their hand in an altar call at Easter.

00:26:41.000 You've got to go deep to create people ready to fight the spiritual darkness right now.

00:26:44.000 And you, everybody in this room, can find a cowardly pastor and get them into a courageous posture overnight.

00:26:50.000 But then there's the complicit, okay?

00:26:52.000 These pastors really need to be called out. 0.99

00:26:54.000 They're the ones with the gay flags outside. 1.00

00:26:57.000 There's one complicit pastor I won't mention because we talked about him. 0.93

00:27:00.000 But, you know, that's like the Judas Smith, the Levi Lusko, the cool kid pastors, right?

00:27:05.000 The skinny gene TED Talk type pastors, right?

00:27:08.000 You guys know what I'm talking about.

00:27:10.000 And they should resign from the ministry, okay? 1.00

00:27:12.000 They're talking about BLM.

00:27:13.000 They talk about, you know, all this sort of stuff against the gospel.

00:27:18.000 So here's why I'm so passionate about this.

00:27:20.000 And I've been a Christian since fifth grade.

00:27:23.000 I've never left the faith.

00:27:24.000 I've never had one of those stories where I left and I came back.

00:27:27.000 But I had an assumption about Christianity that was totally wrong.

00:27:30.000 Okay, giving my life to the Lord in fifth grade.

00:27:32.000 I was always told my politics and my faith must remain separate and they do not come together.

00:27:36.000 That was wrong, right?

00:27:38.000 But you can look it up.

00:27:39.000 On my podcast, I made the worst prediction in the history of American podcasting three years ago.

00:27:44.000 It was such a bad prediction.

00:27:46.000 I did this whole podcast and I said, oh, the lockdowns are here.

00:27:50.000 Let me make a prediction.

00:27:51.000 The American churches are not going to shut down or lock down because the American church loves liberty.

00:27:57.000 And boy, was I wrong.

00:27:59.000 A couple pastors here and there love liberty.

00:28:01.000 99% of American churches stayed closed and locked down, citing Romans 13.

00:28:06.000 Romans 13, obey all the leaders in authority, can't question them.

00:28:09.000 Okay, smart Alec, according to the American Constitution, who's in charge?

00:28:14.000 You are in charge.

00:28:15.000 The people are the sovereign in Romans 13.

00:28:18.000 We, the people of the United States, not we, the mayor, not we, the governor, not we, the congressperson.

00:28:24.000 We the people.

00:28:25.000 So when our rights get violated, it is a violation of the government violating Romans 13, and you never should have shut the church even for a day.

00:28:35.000 And I looked around and I saw the American church shuddered and afraid, masked and vaxed, live streaming, and then all of a sudden they're live streaming.

00:28:41.000 They say, well, it's just the same as having church in person.

00:28:45.000 Having a live stream is like watching a fireplace on a YouTube channel.

00:28:50.000 You get all the appearances, but there's no warmth.

00:28:54.000 And I'll close with: I'm sorry to riff too long, but then the next chapter, the next interval, that was bad enough.

00:28:59.000 Then I saw on my live streams, I had to be taught by these pastors, one after the other, during Floyd of Palooza, when we decided to destroy our country with a bitter lie from hell that were systemically racist, where they said their true original sin is white skin color.

00:29:13.000 I said, oh my goodness, this is not an American church that I thought we had.

00:29:17.000 I thought we had an American church that at least knew the Constitution, knew our rights, didn't you know, resisted CRT and loved liberty.

00:29:24.000 And I looked around and I saw very, very few.

00:29:26.000 So I got motivated to change it.

00:29:28.000 TPUSA Faith's mission is very simple.

00:29:30.000 We are here to excommunicate the mind virus of wokeism out of the American church as quickly as possible.

00:29:40.000 One of the things, I mean, gosh, I think one of the last times we were having this kind of discussion, it was before a lot of the stuff in social media.

00:29:50.000 You were pretty high up there.

00:29:53.000 And I ask you, are you ready for the censorship that's coming?

00:29:58.000 Because you knew it was coming.

00:30:00.000 Yes, that was when we were in Colorado.

00:30:03.000 And it's come since then.

00:30:06.000 So talk about how you get canceled all the time for the most ridiculous things and kind of how you're managing that personally.

00:30:16.000 I'd love to see that.

00:30:17.000 And then also what you think the answer is to the problem.

00:30:22.000 So every day I'm fighting the censors, right?

00:30:24.000 Every single day. 0.72

00:30:25.000 Right now, I'm banned from YouTube for one week because I said that trans people are suffering under a mental delusion.

00:30:32.000 You're not allowed to say that. 0.98

00:30:34.000 Even though you look up the definition of delusion, it's somebody who is believing something that has no rooting in reality.

00:30:41.000 And so then I asked Google, which is like talking to a wall, right?

00:30:44.000 You might as well talk to ChatGPT, right?

00:30:47.000 Which is effectively what you're doing. 0.99

00:30:49.000 And they say it's hate speech to say that trans people have a mental delusion. 0.67

00:30:54.000 So I'm banned right now from YouTube for a week. 1.00

00:30:56.000 So here's, let me actually give you an optimistic take on this.

00:31:00.000 There's a ton of tech censorship.

00:31:01.000 We're actually in a much better place than we were a year ago when it comes to speech online.

00:31:06.000 We're still in a crummy place, but two big developments have happened.

00:31:10.000 Rumble has gone now to the place of viability, which is a great thing.

00:31:14.000 If you do not know what Rumble is, it's a YouTube competitor.

00:31:14.000 Praise God.

00:31:17.000 It's publicly traded.

00:31:18.000 They have a $3 billion market cap now.

00:31:20.000 They have users that are now nipping at YouTube's heels.

00:31:23.000 They have Russell Brand.

00:31:25.000 They have some of the biggest names that like legit mainstream, really good names.

00:31:30.000 It's Dana White is doing a show on there.

00:31:31.000 It's rumble.com.

00:31:33.000 Kelly, last time we sat down, there was no competitor for YouTube.

00:31:36.000 And that's a real thing.

00:31:37.000 Rumble is going to be around.

00:31:38.000 It's a real place to speak.

00:31:40.000 You guys should all download the app, rumble.com, and they're getting their act together.

00:31:44.000 The second thing is Elon Musk buying Twitter is a major development.

00:31:50.000 And that's a good thing.

00:31:52.000 It's a great thing.

00:31:53.000 I mean, I was blacklisted from Twitter, and the Twitter file showed that.

00:31:58.000 But I was blacklisted largely because of my government.

00:32:01.000 And this is where we're looking at some very serious lawsuits.

00:32:04.000 I don't want to spend too much time on this, but I'm kind of patient zero for some of this because we had a very successful Twitter.

00:32:10.000 We were very viral.

00:32:12.000 And then I lost access to my Twitter account, which, like, boo-hoo, who cares?

00:32:16.000 Well, I actually lost access to my Twitter account during a very critical period of time, which was during early voting in 2020, right?

00:32:22.000 So I lost access to my Twitter between like October 14th and like October 24th because I tweeted about the Hunter Biden laptop story, right?

00:32:31.000 So then they used the politico story, which was now we all know Tony Blinken orchestrated this fabrication of it, right?

00:32:37.000 Saying 50 former officials say that this was Russian disinformation.

00:32:41.000 They did not allow me to access my Twitter for 10 days when I could have influenced millions of voters potentially, direct election interference from our government.

00:32:51.000 And so that's the censorship that I actually am more interested in talking about.

00:32:54.000 Me getting banned from YouTube, it's just going to keep on happening. 0.99

00:32:57.000 They're going to find new stupid rules to find a way to shut me up. 0.97

00:32:59.000 The one that is, again, I'm looking for a lawfare strategy. 1.00

00:33:03.000 First Liberty is so amazing.

00:33:04.000 We need a First Liberty for like every issue.

00:33:06.000 We need like a First Liberty for tech censorship.

00:33:08.000 We need like a first, you know, we need a group of lawyers that are committed to winning because I haven't found that yet in the tech censorship because we now have documents that Elon Musk has made public that the FBI was involved in censoring voices like mine.

00:33:24.000 That's a whole different threshold of censorship, right?

00:33:27.000 Technically private companies can shut me up.

00:33:29.000 YouTube doing hate speech.

00:33:30.000 What is blatantly illegal is the federal government of the United States walking into Twitter to say you need to shut up Charlie Kirk.

00:33:39.000 That is not just a violation of the First Amendment.

00:33:42.000 I mean, this is a Stalinistic abuse of power in the middle of an election to try to get a desired outcome.

00:33:48.000 And so if we can find the right legal team, we're going to sue and sue very aggressively because DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, had standing meetings with Twitter every single week with Yoel Roth, the head of Twitter Safety, which used the ability to then silence and shut me up.

00:34:06.000 And so that's where my focus on censorship is.

00:34:09.000 But can I say one more thing about censorship that I think is important?

00:34:12.000 All of you can do something to fix the number one form of censorship in America.

00:34:16.000 Joseph Stalin wrote in his private journals, he said, eventually I will not have to censor anybody because I'll get people to shut themselves up.

00:34:23.000 The number one form of censorship in America is you shutting up you.

00:34:28.000 My encouragement for you tonight is stop policing your own speech because you're afraid you're going to offend somebody's sensitivities.

00:34:36.000 The number one form of censorship in America is self-censorship.

00:34:45.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the problem is they prey on people who are good people to try to encourage them not to speak the truth because the truth is not allowed right now.

00:34:56.000 It's not okay.

00:34:58.000 Well, it's not okay to allow lies, right?

00:35:01.000 I mean, Bonhoeffer, two of my favorite quotes from Bonhoeffer are, you know, silence in the face of evil is sin.

00:35:08.000 The other one is that a Christian doesn't just bind the wounds of a person crushed under the wheel of injustice.

00:35:16.000 A Christian sticks a spoke in the wheel.

00:35:19.000 And we've got to do our part. 0.92

00:35:20.000 And it includes in our own neighborhoods and everything, just speaking the truth.

00:35:24.000 We can do it with love, but we've got to speak the truth.

00:35:27.000 I want to ask you something because a lot of people haven't paid attention to this, but I think it's a big deal.

00:35:31.000 You've started to interview some guys, James, an atheist, an atheist, but that's been really, I think, something very important to you and what you found.

00:35:42.000 I mean, kind of an expert on Marxism.

00:35:45.000 And talk a little bit about what you've learned and what you've tried to sort of educate your audience on that I think a lot of people aren't aware of.

00:35:53.000 Yeah, I've got him now to be an agnostic.

00:35:56.000 So I'm making progress, everybody.

00:36:00.000 You know, I got to tell you, sometimes I get the wackiest emails from people.

00:36:05.000 And we get a lot of emails.

00:36:06.000 I have a human laboratory, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:09.000 Some of you have probably emailed me before.

00:36:10.000 But somebody said, Charlie, I don't think you as a Christian should be interviewing people that are not Christians. 0.95

00:36:17.000 I think that's so unbelievably silly, right? 0.88

00:36:19.000 We would not have received help from King Cyrus, right, when we were in the desert. 0.93

00:36:23.000 I mean, give me a break. 0.97

00:36:25.000 So that's just so silly.

00:36:27.000 But so I'm trying to learn from all people.

00:36:31.000 There's a guy named James Lindsay.

00:36:33.000 If you don't know James Lindsay, he's amazing.

00:36:34.000 He's an agnostic.

00:36:35.000 And he's the foremost expert on diversity, equity, inclusion, and race Marxism.

00:36:40.000 And he is incredibly talented.

00:36:42.000 And he knows the Bible better than most pastors do, just so we're clear.

00:36:45.000 I mean, he knows the Bible really, really well.

00:36:48.000 And we're getting him there, right?

00:36:50.000 Baby steps.

00:36:50.000 He used to be a leader of the new atheist movement, and he's denounced them now.

00:36:53.000 So I've gotten him to at least acknowledge something, that America is a worse country the more secular it has become.

00:37:02.000 That's a big deal for a former atheist to acknowledge, okay?

00:37:06.000 So there's a process here.

00:37:07.000 But what I, we kind of do a road show.

00:37:09.000 I bring him on the road and it drives a lot of pastors nuts.

00:37:12.000 Why do you have an atheist on stage with you?

00:37:14.000 He's agnostic.

00:37:15.000 Remember that. 1.00

00:37:17.000 Because it's such a silly thing.

00:37:20.000 If you've ever had brain surgery or get your wisdom teeth removed or got on an airplane, do you make sure that the pilot shares your theology before you fly from Houston to Chicago?

00:37:31.000 You know, sometimes you find experts in a certain field that can help you towards something, accomplish your mission, because they're experts in the field.

00:37:38.000 And so James Lindsay happens to be an expert in diversity, equity, and inclusion on this.

00:37:42.000 But my focus on this is I believe the first 11 books of Genesis are the answers to so many of the problems we're dealing with.

00:37:48.000 I think most pastors in America refuse or don't even know how to teach the first 11 books of Genesis.

00:37:54.000 The first 11 books of Genesis were written as a direct refutation of pagan polytheistic river civilization.

00:38:00.000 We are seeing the remergence of the old gods.

00:38:02.000 What's the name of that book you mentioned by Return of the Gods.

00:38:04.000 Yeah, and I've even read it, but it seems like we're talking about the same thing on parallel tracks. 0.75

00:38:09.000 I believe there are five fake religions that are dominating in America right now because look, as Christianity becomes less popular, something's going to fill its place. 0.71

00:38:17.000 This idea of no religion is a lie. 0.56

00:38:19.000 You're just going to get other synthetic religions that fill it.

00:38:22.000 So the five fake religions are the religion of tolerance, which is that I must be tolerant of all things regardless of how evil they are.

00:38:28.000 Earth worship, otherwise known as environmentalists, right?

00:38:31.000 The religion of anti-racism, the religion of scientism, and finally the religion of power.

00:38:36.000 Those are the five main religions that replace Christianity.

00:38:39.000 And most Christians don't even think about that because we think, oh, people are going to be not religious.

00:38:42.000 That's not true.

00:38:43.000 They're going to find a worldview from somewhere.

00:38:46.000 And those are the five big places they replace it with.

00:38:48.000 But Genesis 1 through 11 is the whole ballgame, in my opinion, when it comes to politics, government.

00:38:54.000 And this is why I wish pastors would talk about it more.

00:38:56.000 It tells you why we're here, why we were created, what is a human being, whether or not we have eternal purposes to this, and what happens when power gets too concentrated.

00:39:06.000 That's just one of many lessons, right?

00:39:08.000 Genesis 1, 26, 127, it says that we are image-bearers of our Creator.

00:39:13.000 That is a game-changer verse.

00:39:15.000 If that verse is true, that means that you as a human being are not an accident of Darwinian evolution.

00:39:20.000 It means you are not a clump of cells.

00:39:22.000 It means you were made with intentionality and purpose and with love and with meaning and with purpose.

00:39:29.000 That means that everything the college academics are teaching our kids is a bitter lie.

00:39:33.000 They teach the kids the opposite, that you are an accident.

00:39:37.000 It also means that there's an objective order and objective truth.

00:39:40.000 If you were to say, Charlie, what is one of the most dangerous things taught on college campuses?

00:39:45.000 Moral subjectivism is one of the most dangerous things, that I have my truth and you have your truth.

00:39:51.000 And so then Genesis 11, which is what happens when people try to congregate authority, you know, concentrate authority too much, which of course is the city of Babel.

00:40:01.000 And God does not look kindly on people trying to rule here on this earth without checks and balances or decentralized power structures.

00:40:08.000 And so I'm going on the road talking about a lot about Genesis 1 through 11.

00:40:12.000 I think we need to pray over these scriptures.

00:40:13.000 I think there's so much, it's so instructive there, and it's unique because that really is the eternal canon of Genesis.

00:40:20.000 Because in Genesis 12, it's like, oh, here's Abram, and then kind of history begins. 0.81

00:40:24.000 I believe Genesis 1 through 11 is given to us as an instructive tool for such a time as this to be able to defeat the diabolical return of pagan religion in America. 0.95

00:40:36.000 Genesis 1 through 11, I think, is one of the best ways to do that. 0.54

00:40:44.000 I'd encourage people to listen to some of those podcasts, interviews, dialogues you've had.

00:40:49.000 I mean, one of the things that I think was great was this whole idea that God always has distinction.

00:40:58.000 And there's a good and an evil.

00:40:58.000 That's correct.

00:41:01.000 There's a male and a female.

00:41:02.000 There's always, and what you're watching today is the attempt, and this is what Marxism does, to destroy distinctives.

00:41:10.000 And people don't realize what's going on there.

00:41:12.000 So order, civilization, relies on distinctions.

00:41:17.000 When you have chaos, it is the blurring or the elimination of distinctions.

00:41:21.000 So Genesis 1 through 11 lays out, it's like seven or eight distinctions, but let me just kind of tell you, the distinction between life and death, the distinction between God and man, the distinction between man and nature, the distinction between the profane and the holy, the distinction between male and female, right?

00:41:38.000 The distinction between adult and child.

00:41:40.000 These distinctions are under assault every single day by the arsonist left.

00:41:47.000 They need to get rid of the distinctions.

00:41:50.000 Distinctions actually keep us free.

00:41:52.000 And the most important distinction, the distinction between good and evil.

00:41:56.000 And the first dialogue on good and evil, where it's so interesting, where it's so obvious that God gave us some form of a moral compass, but it's not sufficient, is Cain and Abel, where God comes from the heaven and he asks Cain, hey, where's your brother?

00:42:09.000 And it's one of the great lines of the Bible.

00:42:11.000 And he says, what am I, my brother's keeper?

00:42:15.000 And it's such an interesting answer, isn't it?

00:42:17.000 Because if he didn't think there was something somewhat wrong with murder, he would have said, well, God, I murdered him.

00:42:23.000 Why?

00:42:24.000 What's so wrong with that?

00:42:25.000 Instead of it's a quasi-defensive answer, right?

00:42:27.000 Which is like, what am I, my brother's keeper?

00:42:29.000 Like, I mean, come on.

00:42:31.000 And God, as this dialogue back and forth, ends up obviously admonishing him and his future bloodlines.

00:42:36.000 And you see this, this, the Noahic covenant in Genesis 7 and 8, which is so clear that the elimination of a transcendent good leads you to moral anarchy.

00:42:51.000 Everything the left is trying to do is trying to eliminate distinctions.

00:42:54.000 There is no difference than man and woman.

00:42:56.000 There is no difference than good and evil.

00:42:58.000 There is no difference between profane and holy.

00:43:00.000 There is no difference between God and man.

00:43:02.000 For example, everyone here tonight believes that there is a God and you are not him.

00:43:08.000 The left does not believe either of those things.

00:43:12.000 They believe that there is no God.

00:43:13.000 If there was a God, I would be that person.

00:43:15.000 And so when you look at distinctions and the way God ordered the universe, which is, again, laid out so beautifully in Genesis 1 through 11, you look at the serpent, Satan, Satan, in the garden.

00:43:29.000 His goal is to confuse the distinctions.

00:43:33.000 Because God gave specific orders, and what does Satan try to do?

00:43:36.000 Question them.

00:43:37.000 Did God really tell you that?

00:43:38.000 God said it's no fun.

00:43:39.000 Come on, don't you want to be enlightened?

00:43:40.000 Don't you want to eat from the tree of good and even the knowledge of truth, good and evil?

00:43:46.000 And it is up to us to be relentlessly defensive of the distinctions.

00:43:53.000 When you destroy the distinctions that make Western society, you're going to get something very diabolical and very evil.

00:43:59.000 I think it's a simple way to understand the existence that we're in right now or the situation that we're in.

00:44:04.000 All right, I want to end with one sort of double question.

00:44:07.000 Number one, you married a woman who's much more attractive than you. 0.98

00:44:14.000 Thank you.

00:44:15.000 Who is very, very bright and very successful on her own.

00:44:21.000 And you now have a little girl.

00:44:23.000 So number one, I want to know how that changed or has changed so far your perspective at all.

00:44:23.000 Yes.

00:44:30.000 And then number two, I want to know how do you see the future of the country, religious freedom, freedoms in general?

00:44:38.000 What do you see coming?

00:44:40.000 So I just want to make sure I reiterate this before I close.

00:44:43.000 And Kelly hasn't even told me to say any of this.

00:44:45.000 You guys have to support First Celebrity.

00:44:46.000 It's one of the most important nonprofits in America.

00:44:48.000 I say that as someone who's dedicated my 11 years of doing this.

00:44:52.000 It's so incredibly important.

00:44:53.000 So please support them.

00:44:55.000 So from being a father, I mean, it's a total game changer.

00:45:00.000 If you think I was radical before, and now I'm very radical.

00:45:04.000 No, but I mean, it's a motivating factor, right?

00:45:07.000 Because I mean, I'm currently trying to create, or at least try to have some semblance of a country I grew up in.

00:45:16.000 Here I am, 29 years old, doing like the boomer thing.

00:45:19.000 If only she would know the country I grew up in.

00:45:22.000 It's like this has been a radical cultural revolution the last five years, hasn't it?

00:45:26.000 It's happened very quickly with hyper-ferocity and aggression.

00:45:32.000 And so, I mean, it gives me a reason to fight, but it also humbles me, but it makes me realize exactly why the bad guys want people to stop having kids.

00:45:46.000 Because it anchors you to reality, to God, and to nature.

00:45:52.000 As birth rates have plummeted in America, so many other things have gone awry.

00:45:57.000 When you have a child, it's a lot harder to be a BLM activist.

00:46:01.000 It just is.

00:46:02.000 You don't have as much time.

00:46:06.000 You're less likely to burn down a Wendy's if you have a child.

00:46:12.000 And in some way, in some way, like these early 30s-somethings that studied North African lesbian poetry from the University of Houston, and they have $200,000 in debt, and they're not married and have no kids for multiple reasons, and they're really angry.

00:46:26.000 And I can kind of see why they're angry for many reasons, but they haven't yet quite found out a purpose.

00:46:34.000 And we've told, oh my goodness, the disservice we've done to our young people.

00:46:38.000 I hear it all the time.

00:46:38.000 Charlie, I was told all throughout college, don't get married, just pursue your career.

00:46:42.000 What an awful, awful thing.

00:46:44.000 And for those of you involved in church life, you need to celebrate getting married and having kids early.

00:46:49.000 It's a beautiful thing.

00:46:50.000 And just so you know, kids are not getting that message, okay?

00:46:54.000 The vast majority of young people I talk to say hear nothing but negatives when it comes to family creation.

00:46:59.000 Terry Schilling is here somewhere who does a great job talking about the need of having kids.

00:47:02.000 He has like 22 kids or something.

00:47:03.000 He's around here for like something.

00:47:06.000 He could fill a whole zip code.

00:47:09.000 But yes, for me, it helps fill the why even more.

00:47:13.000 And I mean, those of you that are parents, I'm not telling you anything you don't know, right?

00:47:17.000 So, then where I think the country is going.

00:47:20.000 Look, I've been pretty intense tonight.

00:47:22.000 I don't apologize for it because I'm being honest.

00:47:25.000 I also want you to say there's so much good happening in America.

00:47:28.000 We just had our campus tour at Turning Point USA.

00:47:31.000 We could not find rooms big enough on college campuses to fill all the students that wanted to attend our events on these campuses.

00:47:39.000 It's a beautiful thing.

00:47:45.000 And these are big, big venues, right?

00:47:49.000 So if I were to say this, and I'm going to be 100% honest like I always am, the other side wants it more than us right now.

00:47:55.000 They're giving more money.

00:47:56.000 They're more active.

00:47:58.000 Especially that trans world.

00:48:01.000 I have not seen activist energy this intense, this ferocious, of anything I've done in 11 years. 0.99

00:48:07.000 It makes the BLM stuff look like child's play. 0.91

00:48:11.000 And they're going to run over all of you because they just think they have total moral impunity. 0.98

00:48:16.000 At the same time, yes, they control the CIA, they control Goldman Sachs, they control the corporations, they have Soros, they have Lorene Powell jobs, they totally screwed up our elections, they control all this.

00:48:26.000 But all of that to be said, we have two things they don't have.

00:48:30.000 We have the truth, and we do outnumber them.

00:48:34.000 It's just our numbers aren't really doing much, right?

00:48:36.000 And you might say, well, Charlie, what can I do then, right?

00:48:39.000 What can I possibly do?

00:48:40.000 I could just read your mind because I get that question all the time.

00:48:42.000 Someone's probably going to stand up and say, Charlie, I've done everything that's been asked of me.

00:48:47.000 I watched Tucker Carlson.

00:48:50.000 I bought the pillow.

00:48:52.000 I have done everything that has been asked of me.

00:48:56.000 Promo code Kirk, by the way, at mypillow.com, just so we're clear.

00:49:01.000 And those Giza dream sheets are spectacular.

00:49:06.000 Look, I'm not here to give you individual marching orders, but I will say, everybody can do more, right?

00:49:13.000 You can mentor a young person.

00:49:15.000 You can give more resources.

00:49:16.000 You can give the first liberty.

00:49:18.000 You can run for a school board.

00:49:19.000 You could hold your school board members accountable or do the three basic things I tell every Christian to do.

00:49:25.000 Are you praying for your nation audibly on a daily basis, saying, Lord, help save this country?

00:49:30.000 I believe prayer is so important.

00:49:32.000 Get back to the spiritual disciplines.

00:49:34.000 Are you fasting on a weekly basis for your nation for at least 24 hours?

00:49:38.000 And finally, are you learning about your nation or your nation's roots for at least an hour a day?

00:49:43.000 If you're doing those three things, you're going to see the Holy Spirit will come to you and show you ways that you can act, things that you can do.

00:49:50.000 Get back to the spiritual disciplines.

00:49:53.000 And so I'm neither a pessimist or an optimist.

00:49:55.000 If I were to tell you, you know, I'm a pessimist.

00:49:57.000 It's all over.

00:49:58.000 The country is done.

00:49:59.000 You'd go back home and you'd say, you know what?

00:50:00.000 What's the point in fighting?

00:50:01.000 Charlie's a pessimist.

00:50:02.000 It's all over.

00:50:03.000 It's all negative.

00:50:04.000 If I was an optimist, you'd go home and say, hey, I don't need to fight.

00:50:07.000 Charlie gave me a lot of hopium, and it feels really good to be alive, and we're going to win.

00:50:12.000 And look, I think all of us, most of us here, are Christians here tonight.

00:50:16.000 I want to just make sure that we're very clear.

00:50:18.000 If you believe Jesus is coming next Thursday, you still have a moral obligation to fight.

00:50:24.000 Do not use your eschatology as an excuse for inaction.

00:50:28.000 I hear it all the time.

00:50:29.000 Charlie, what's the point?

00:50:30.000 We're all going to get raptured up soon.

00:50:32.000 You might be right.

00:50:33.000 It might be hundreds of years.

00:50:34.000 It might be a thousand years away.

00:50:35.000 You still must act.

00:50:36.000 So here's what I think.

00:50:38.000 Here's where I think we are, Kelly.

00:50:40.000 I think the die has yet to be cast on this particular moment.

00:50:44.000 It could go either way.

00:50:45.000 It could go the way where there's a revival and an awakening and a grit and an endurance and a stamina of people that refuse to break, that get tougher the more that we get thrown at, and we build in numbers and we homeschool our kids and we build beautiful things and we build businesses.

00:51:01.000 And all of a sudden, we look back at 22 and 23 as times where we pushed through, or it could go the other way, where we weaken in resolve and we fight amongst ourselves and we get cynical and apathetic and nihilistic, and the bad guys steamroll us.

00:51:14.000 Both are conceivable.

00:51:16.000 I am not a speaker, and you hear these speakers all the time that say that victory is inevitable.

00:51:20.000 Yes, ultimate, eternal victory is inevitable.

00:51:23.000 Jesus will come back on his throne.

00:51:24.000 How this country goes, I have no idea.

00:51:27.000 But I could say this: I have dedicated my 11 years, and I will dedicate as long as I have breath in these lungs every single day to fight for liberty and for freedom against these bad guys.

00:51:37.000 My, I implore you to try to do the same because look, here's the one thing I know, and I fight these people every single day, and they're not good people.

00:51:45.000 They want us dead, but they fear us.

00:51:48.000 I know this.

00:51:50.000 They fear us more than anything else.

00:51:52.000 They fear that if we actually get our act together, if we have an attitude where we're going to stay in the game of stamina, of endurance, of a long-term vision, and they can't invoke our surrender, then we're going to win.

00:52:05.000 Can I finish on a story, Kelly?

00:52:07.000 Is that okay?

00:52:07.000 Yeah.

00:52:08.000 You tell me.

00:52:09.000 Go ahead.

00:52:10.000 I'm on your time.

00:52:11.000 Yeah.

00:52:11.000 Okay.

00:52:12.000 I'm doing a pastor's close, so I got another 45 minutes.

00:52:15.000 I'm kidding.

00:52:15.000 You're passing the plate?

00:52:16.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:17.000 Well, you should give the first liberty.

00:52:19.000 I'll close with this.

00:52:20.000 Winston Churchill was the greatest man to live in the 20th century.

00:52:24.000 He had courage, he had grit, he had resolve, and he was a man for the times.

00:52:28.000 Winston Churchill was the only man smiling the day after Pearl Harbor.

00:52:32.000 He walked into his war cabinet meeting of a group of a dozen men, the thing of whiskey and a cigar at 7 a.m.

00:52:38.000 He had to keep up.

00:52:39.000 And he proclaimed to his war cabinet, We have won the war, gents.

00:52:46.000 The whole place went silent.

00:52:48.000 They looked at him.

00:52:49.000 I said, How much whiskey have you had, sir?

00:52:51.000 And he said it again, we have won the war.

00:52:54.000 And then a brave soul decided to challenge him. 1.00

00:52:56.000 So have you lost your bloody mind? 0.99

00:52:59.000 The Royal Air Force is losing 5,000 people a day. 1.00

00:53:03.000 They've just bombed London in another blitz.

00:53:06.000 The opposition party is calling for your resignation on a daily basis.

00:53:10.000 They very well might plan an amphibious ground assault on Brighton.

00:53:15.000 We barely got our troops out of Dunkirk. 0.75

00:53:17.000 The Nazis are increasing their industrial capacity to come closer and closer towards our lone aisle. 0.70

00:53:25.000 Our nation's resolve is at the brinkering tilt.

00:53:29.000 What do you mean we have won the war?

00:53:31.000 And the place went silent, and Winston Churchill took a puff of his cigar and a sip of his whiskey.

00:53:35.000 He said, Ah, I've got to know the Americans. 0.69

00:53:38.000 They're a tricky bunch, often late to the game, but never wrong. 1.00

00:53:42.000 When they awaken, they're an unstoppable beast.

00:53:45.000 And let me tell you right now, at Pearl Harbor, they've awoken the sleeping giant, and this war is over.

00:53:51.000 It's just a matter of when it is declared.

00:53:53.000 I tell you, when the Americans awaken, we will win.

00:53:56.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we wake up, we beat the bad guys.

00:53:59.000 Thank you so much.

00:53:59.000 I appreciate it.

00:54:03.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:54:05.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:54:08.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:54:13.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 30, 2023

The Fight for Liberty Every Single Day — LIVE from the First Liberty Institute

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