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00:02:15.000And this morning I was kind of freaking out a little bit on my own because I thought to myself, what I know of the conspiracy to steal a U.S. election, I mean, you sound like a maniac with a propeller hat on roller skates going down Fifth Avenue, like one of these classic nuts when you start talking about the CIA and the FBI and so on and so forth.
00:02:39.000And yet, unfortunately, it looks like that's where we are.
00:02:43.000My question to you, Charlie, is I feel not enough people are taking this seriously.
00:02:52.000This is like 9-11, but everybody goes, well, so what?
00:02:56.000I don't really understand how domestic enemies taking over the greatest nation in the history of the world would not be the only news show.
00:03:07.000When I hear people talk about COVID restrictions, I think, are you people out of your mind?
00:03:33.000Well, I have a theory here you might agree or you might take.
00:03:37.000And even people on our side that are afraid to talk about this, I think that they don't want it to be true.
00:03:43.000I think that there's a discomfort that will set in.
00:03:46.000There's almost a point of no going back as soon as you start to admit that there is this broad organized criminal network that probably stole this election.
00:03:56.000And I think a lot of people are kind of saying, look, 10 months ago, I was living a nice life.
00:05:52.000This involves the actual integrity of our elections.
00:05:55.000And this is typically actually, this tells us we're onto something, Eric, because whenever there is a vast network of behavior that is illegal is uncovered, it's typically this sequence of events.
00:06:08.000And the argument I make is this, and I don't mean this as an anti-Catholic argument.
00:06:13.000But if you would have told anyone in Boston in the early 1960s that there were hundreds of priests that were molesting children and the Catholic Church knew about it, the diocese covered it up and they had legal representation.
00:06:32.000Listen, that is a brilliant analogy, Charlie.
00:06:35.000Thank you, because it does help us to frame this.
00:06:39.000I was going to go, my analogy is not nearly as good, but I was going to say, let's say it's 1917 or 1916, and you're living in Russia, and you have a wonderful life in Russia.
00:06:56.000And somebody tells you that in a matter of months, this nation, this vast nation, the nation of Tolstoy and Dostoevsky, this is going to become one of the most satanic, oppressive slave states the world has ever known.
00:07:19.000People are going to be tortured for thinking the wrong way.
00:07:24.000The czar's secret police were nothing compared to what is going to happen.
00:07:29.000And every intellectual, every person of sincere Christian faith, every Jew is going to be targeted and sent to the most horrific death camps and work camps in Siberia.
00:07:48.000So for me, what this amounts to is people are unwilling to see evil.
00:07:54.000In other words, people keep thinking that the normal life we had before COVID or whatever it was, or the normal life before Trump, people who hate Trump think if we could just go back to the normal life of 2015, they're unwilling to deal with the fact that there is evil.
00:08:13.000Priests molesting boys is satanic evil.
00:08:19.000But I guess I'm just surprised, Charlie, that there are so few people that we might look to who aren't talking about this.
00:08:26.000I mean, why aren't Mitch McConnell and those kind of people screaming about this?
00:08:32.000Tucker Carlson's not screaming about this.
00:08:34.000I adore Tucker Carlson, but he's not really screaming about this.
00:08:42.000Well, and there's a lot of layers to that.
00:08:45.000And part of it, Eric, is that there is a group of people out there that are in power, you know, Senator McConnell and some of these other members of Congress that they're okay if Trump loses.
00:09:14.000But there are a zillion others, whether it's Ted Cruz or there are so many heroes, even they don't seem to be speaking loudly enough for me to spoke up.
00:09:28.000It's worthy of recognition, but your point is exactly right, Eric.
00:09:32.000Why is there this stunning landscape of silence when I made an argument yesterday, and I think it actually resonates, particularly what you're saying?
00:10:08.000No, and the other point of this, just super quick, is that it's the natural human inclination in this moment is to go back to memories of when things were comfortable, when things were normal.
00:10:24.000But we have now entered a fighting season in our country.
00:10:27.000And it tells us in Ecclesiastes there is a season for everything.
00:10:39.000And I think that, you know what this reminds me of again, you have to go to history to try to figure this out.
00:10:45.000Every time I hear about the United States entering the Second World War on December 7th, coming up, like this week, December 7th, 1941, and you think to yourself,
00:11:01.000what were these jerks doing for over two years while Hitler in the most evil way went about his dark business on the European continent?
00:11:21.000Now, in retrospect, because we did eventually get in, we act like we were the heroes of World War II and we did it.
00:11:29.000And you think, well, where were we when Churchill was all alone?
00:11:35.000And when everybody was saying, it sounds like what you're saying and what I'm saying, they were kind of acting like, well, you know, we don't need to get involved.
00:11:45.000And now we look back and we think, how could any human being with any human feeling not get involved in a war against Adolf Hitler?
00:11:56.000But they needed two years of bucking up before they were willing to enter the war, before Pearl Harbor happened that sort of forced us to enter the war.
00:12:05.000But I think maybe we're in something like that now.
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00:13:14.000So you were mentioning the two years leading up to Pearl Harbor.
00:13:17.000The interesting backstory of that is that FDR, he did want to get more engaged in Europe.
00:13:23.000However, the population of America was very against another conflict in the European theater.
00:13:30.000Some people were war-weary after World War I.
00:13:32.000But actually, the honest truth is that the American economy was, yes, going through the, you know, the kind of post-depression period, still trying to get out of, you know, kind of rebuild ourselves.
00:13:43.000But the American population had this viewpoint that if it doesn't hit our shore, why does it matter?
00:13:49.000And part of the sequence that led to Pearl Harbor was FDR, you don't want to say provoking, but he was almost, he was starting to try, oh, he was almost beating the drums of war by saying, hey, Japan, you're getting no more oil from us.
00:14:01.000That's basically what ended up springing the attack on Pearl Harbor.
00:14:05.000But it's really interesting, which is the American people did not find that posture of fighting until the war or the battle came straight to our shores.
00:14:15.000And it's a great analogy because people were thinking back to how awful World War I was in the American homeland.
00:14:23.000And they said, I don't want to go through that again.
00:14:26.000I think a lot of people are now thinking through kind of in the movement and American politics, I don't want to go back to some of our nasty political fights, which is unused, which is strange because we know who the left is right now.
00:14:39.000We know what they're possessed with and the ideas they're possessed with.
00:14:43.000And why any conservatives would believe for a second that we're all of a sudden going to go back into kind of normal times is fascinating to me.
00:14:57.000Like, I cannot imagine that they are daily writing articles on why we need to move on.
00:15:03.000And it's a disgrace that the president is going out on this note.
00:15:08.000And I think to myself, folks, again, I don't know what you're looking at, but the very idea, this is like somebody saying, you know, that your child is being murdered and raped down the block.
00:15:22.000And if you do anything about it, it's not going to go well for you.
00:15:25.000I can guarantee you 80% chance you're going to die.
00:15:28.000And you would say, so, like, and in other words, that there's no way I'm going to let that happen.
00:15:36.000If there's a one in a thousand chance, one in a million chance, I'm going to go and do the right thing.
00:15:40.000I would be happy to die because that is so evil.
00:15:45.000What is happening in this country right now?
00:15:47.000If it is even possible, in other words, if there are people who say, Well, I'm not so sure, I would say to them, Well, if you think there's any chance that this is real, the idea that you would look the other way doesn't really make any sense to me.
00:16:00.000How can you not take this seriously and understand that if Biden were inaugurated under this cloud right now, with 70 million plus people believing he's a real fraud, not just they don't like him, they didn't vote for him, but that he's a fraud, that you wouldn't speak up.
00:16:20.000Well, and part of it is that people believe the kind of hypnosis from the main propaganda channels where they say, Well, there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
00:16:29.000First of all, there you have an objective and a subjective statement.
00:16:34.000So, this is a very important point that we need to you've heard this many times, right?
00:16:37.000It's almost an incantation that they say on television every day: there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
00:16:43.000They say it almost as a prayer ritual on CNN, and they have to every day.
00:16:48.000And so, what you have there is a no, meaning there's none, zero.
00:16:52.000That's an objective, and then widespread.
00:16:54.000That's a really important thing, though.
00:17:02.0001%'s the margin in many of these states.
00:17:05.000So, all of a sudden, if we just have 1% voter fraud, Eric, 1%, Donald Trump is president.
00:17:11.000And based on all the evidence we have, we have way more evidence to show there's even more than 1%.
00:17:16.000But, but look, but even that narrative, in other words, to talk about that, isn't the real issue, Charlie, that we're talking about conspiracy?
00:17:24.000There were people, leaders, powerful people who made a decision before the election that this is what we're going to do.
00:17:32.000That's really what we need to go after, isn't it?
00:17:35.000Who were the people conspiring to overturn the will of the American people?
00:18:43.000I mean, to do events is a lot of work.
00:18:45.000It's not about the virus and maybe he couldn't build a crowd.
00:18:48.000The point is, this is that they put all of their collective brain power, not into persuasion, not into actual kind of the typical mechanics of an election.
00:18:59.000Instead, they said, We are now going to try and change the way we do elections forever.
00:19:05.000So a big part of this was the Center for Technology and Civic Life, CTCL, the $350 million that came from Facebook that changed the way we did elections forever.
00:19:14.000We had these big ballot drop boxes that were on every single corner in urban America.
00:19:19.000So this is the 350,000, 350 million million that Zuckerberg gave.
00:19:36.000They had about a half a million dollar budget called the Center for Technology and Civic Life.
00:19:40.000Really didn't do anything dramatic until they got approached, and there was a plan that was hatched around April or May of this year, probably because the big tech companies were afraid of a antitrust complaint that was coming their way very soon from a Democrat Congress.
00:19:58.000So they kind of wanted to show the Democrats with a wink and a nod, hey, we're doing the good work.
00:20:03.000Because you have to understand these antitrust complaints that the Democrats were floating in Congress were nothing more than a legislative extortion scheme to try to get the multi-trillion dollar companies to get involved in this election on their behalf because they blamed Facebook for Donald Trump's election wrongly in 2016.
00:20:20.000Of course, they'd actually never blame their candidate or their tactics or their messaging.
00:20:23.000So then Zuckerberg donates $350 to $400 million to this Center for Technology and Civic Life.
00:20:31.000And again, you go from a $500,000 operating budget, Eric, to $350,000 to $400 million.
00:20:38.000You're probably going to have a pretty good idea of where that money is going.
00:20:40.000Zuckerberg's not going to execute that wire transfer or donate that stock if he doesn't know in a pretty form or fashion that that's going to benefit something he cares about.
00:20:52.000And so under the virus restrictions that all of these state, local municipalities were under, particularly Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, Georgia, Maricopa County, and Phoenix, the Center for Technology and Civic Life started to work hand in hand with the Secretary of State's office and the county recorders in these massive counties and swing states, primarily swing states, but they peppered around other states just to cover themselves legally.
00:21:17.000And they started to install these massive drop boxes.
00:21:21.000And this is just one thing they did all across the country.
00:21:23.000And you might have seen them where then you could put ballots in them.
00:21:28.000Well, as people were getting 10, 15, 20, 30 ballots sent to their home wrongly, and everyone wears masks all the time, you could, in an unidentified way, drop off 30 ballots into these drop boxes, and then the ballots are effectively laundered.
00:21:42.000So you have dirty ballots that if you were to go through the regular process of going to the county recorder's office and turning them in with your ID, they'd say, well, show me if this is really your ballot.
00:21:52.000You can then drop them into these boxes and you're completely cleansed of it.
00:21:56.000And you can't get caught because it's not mail fraud.
00:21:59.000So there's no record of it going actually into the U.S. to Postal Service mail system.
00:22:03.000It's this very weird kind of short circuitry of the elections.
00:22:08.000Beyond that, they provided the vote counting tabulators.
00:22:11.000They provided grants for people that actually had back-end and front-end access to how the votes were counted.
00:22:44.000If you give us his information, he's been on my list.
00:22:48.000He's going to get that from you when we go off the air.
00:22:50.000This is just one of the many different scandals that were operating together.
00:22:54.000And what's very clear, though, the only through line here, though, Eric, and you mentioned it, is that powerful people are behind all of these.
00:23:01.000This is not an organic thing where people are rising to the streets or big rallies are happening.
00:23:24.000Secretary of State's office in collusion and conjunction with people like Stacey Abrams and the multi-billionaire lobby got involved and changed the way we did elections and signature verification.
00:23:35.000All of these things were plotted months in advance.
00:23:38.000So, while we were worried about the polls, maybe not, we were really loving voter registration.
00:23:44.000All of a sudden, they were changing the way that elections were done.
00:25:05.000We're redoing the way we do elections in this state.
00:25:08.000And all of a sudden, Florida had their results by 9 o'clock Eastern and Donald Trump wins by four points.
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00:26:52.000Do you think we go between here and December 14th?
00:27:00.000I think the state legislatures need to start stepping up, and I think we're starting to see that.
00:27:04.000I think every state legislature in Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan should step up and call a special session to possibly withhold electors.
00:27:14.000I don't necessarily think they should seat them for Trump.
00:27:17.000I think that would be probably a step too far.
00:27:19.000Just say we don't have the confidence to seat our electors.
00:28:11.000You have people like three-star general Tom McInerney in a conversation with General Flynn the other day talking about stuff that is, you know, way beyond Zuckerberg giving money to do what you described earlier, because that's almost legitimate in an ugly way.
00:28:32.000You can see that that wasn't a conspiracy by the Democratic Party or by the deep state that we know of.
00:28:38.000It was just somebody Zuckerberg trying to, you know, in a sense, take care of himself by doing this, right?
00:28:47.000And we know it's evil, but at the same time, it makes some kind of sense.
00:28:51.000But when you have General Flynn and General McInerney talking about the CIA and the FBI in the deep state trying to do a coup, where do you go with that?
00:29:04.000And I mean, I think after what we've learned of what our intelligence agencies are capable of and what they've done, I think it would be wrong to kind of throw that out.
00:29:13.000I will say this, that if you look at the characteristics of how the Central Intelligence Agency used to overthrow governments, one of the things that is in the playbook of the CIA is to publish polls that show that the incumbent you're trying to overthrow is very unpopular.
00:29:30.000So that when the final result comes that you want, no one is surprised by it.
00:29:35.000That is the Soviets used to do this all the time when they used to overthrow governments back in the 70s and 80s.
00:30:11.000And what's so, let me just make a really interesting point here, which is that I grew up in an America, Eric.
00:30:17.000I grew up in an America post 9-11 where all of my liberal friends and all of the Democrats and all the documentaries that I was forced to watch told me the CIA was the worst thing ever and they used to overthrow governments and they were being used by George W. Bush.
00:30:31.000I say, is now the Democrat Party the pro-CIA party?
00:30:34.000Because that's really fascinating to me.
00:30:36.000I thought they were the ones that were always trying to tell us that they're the ones that are trying to usurp the will of the American people.
00:30:42.000Well, but when you say you wouldn't dismiss it, you're not sounding clearly this is not something that you're taking all that seriously.
00:30:52.000No, I just think that it's, I don't think we as civilians are ever going to be able to uncover that.
00:30:58.000I think that finding whether or not Gina Haspel and Brennan and all them were using the Central Intelligence Agency domestically to overthrow a coup, that's something that is very compelling.
00:31:37.000It's very compelling, but I think they're all going to hit walls here because if we think that the agency is all of a sudden going to have a smoking gun around that we can prove what they did, I think we're fooling ourselves.
00:31:48.000I mean, we're dealing with the most sophisticated spy operation in the history of the planet.
00:32:15.000I think that there is a concerted effort, especially in the top brass of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, to go back to business as usual, to kind of have a changing of the guard and why there was no massive voter.
00:32:28.000I mean, maybe there was going to be a huge, massive voter fraud revelation or investigation that comes out at some point.
00:32:39.000I said that if John Durham does not come out with his report by August, then nothing will stop these people from stealing, lying, and doing it again.
00:32:49.000Why have we not seen the Durham report?
00:33:13.000I don't know what I can't explain Barr's action or inaction.
00:33:17.000I cannot tell you why his Department of Justice authorized investigations and authorized, for example, why go out of your way?
00:33:28.000And I know it's the Southern District and all that, but it's still under the DOJ purview to go after Steve Bannon while you won't go after Peter Strzzok and Lisa Page.
00:33:40.000And so that stuff's happening under his Department of Justice.
00:33:45.000Okay, let's go to something that's a little bit clearer.
00:33:50.000Georgia, the governor of Georgia, the Secretary of State in Georgia seem potentially to have made a deal with whether it's SmartMatic or Dominion.
00:33:59.000They seem to have somehow been in on this.
00:34:05.000I mean, there's evidence to show that lobbyists around Brian Kemp have also been very much influenced by SmartMatic and Dominion voting systems.
00:34:15.000I have a couple of questions for Rothensperger and for Brian Kemp.
00:34:47.000Why would they be using this kind of language and talking about what happened in Georgia?
00:34:51.000Well, because there's probably something to it.
00:34:53.000And Brian Kemp and Rothensberger, they have basically surrendered to the Stacey Abrams lobby in Georgia.
00:35:02.000And Rothensperger was afraid of being called a racist by Stacey Abrams again and relaxed signature requirements, relaxed absentee ballot standards, changed the way that we count votes.
00:35:13.000For example, we have on this board here, Floyd County.
00:35:16.000They just found 2,600 votes, 800-plus benefit for Trump.
00:36:32.000It will collapse, whether now or in the future, we can rest assured that what they pulled off here will be one of the most egregious, one of the most egregious things in the history of our country to try and thwart the will of the American people.
00:36:48.000And you have no doubt that that is what happened.