00:00:00.000Hello everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:00:02.000What is the purpose of the Second Amendment?
00:00:03.000It's very important that we clarify the need and the moral necessity for the Second Amendment.
00:00:12.000We go through that in great detail and then we give the latest update from Uvalde.
00:00:17.000We've received some positive, lots of positive emails and some negative emails about some of our recent comments, what happened to Uvalde.
00:00:24.000Well, the recent reports further vindicate and strengthen our argument.
00:00:28.000We go through it in a very reasonable way.
00:00:30.000You could feel free to disagree, but when you hear this episode, I think you'll be moved and convinced that the actions or the inactions of the police officers in Uvalde, Texas were unacceptable.
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00:03:36.000What I do know is that, and what you know as well, because it's publicly available, is that there was an inexcusable one-hour gap between the first engagement with a police officer and when a tactical team went in.
00:03:49.000Now, some people are saying it's because of equipment or other reasons.
00:03:53.000I suppose as time progresses, we'll find out.
00:03:56.000But for the record, we are very, very pro-police.
00:04:34.000In other ways, I just don't like surrendering to the mob and acting as if their rank corps and their protests are something worth validating.
00:04:43.000It almost makes them more powerful and gives them more strength to do that.
00:04:52.000President Donald Trump is speaking at the National Rifle Association.
00:04:55.000And there will be arguments made at this gathering in Houston all around the Second Amendment.
00:05:01.000Now, the easy argument to make when it comes to the Second Amendment is that you need guns to be able to protect yourself against criminals.
00:05:08.000That's a good argument for the Second Amendment, but that's not the best one.
00:05:12.000And that one is going to be weak on face value because eventually they'll be able to say, well, then all you need is a handgun.
00:05:20.000All you need is a couple rounds to protect yourself.
00:05:23.000Now, being able to protect oneself is a moral right.
00:05:29.000Self-defense is a moral right, but that is not the purpose of the Second Amendment.
00:05:33.000It was never the purpose of the Second Amendment.
00:05:35.000Now, what I'm about to say here is considered to be very provocative and controversial by the mainstream activist media, but it's true.
00:05:43.000We must be very clear about the reason the founding fathers believed an armed citizenry was necessary for a free people.
00:05:50.000It was not to be able to hunt deer and to be able to feed your family.
00:05:54.000It wasn't to be able to protect against intruders.
00:05:58.000No, it was about something very clear.
00:06:01.000Now, Republicans generally don't like making this argument.
00:06:04.000They don't like making this argument because it sounds a little bit radical, or they get accused of all these things from the media.
00:06:12.000But if you don't make this argument, then we are always going to be on defense.
00:06:18.000If you don't make this argument, then eventually the guns will be confiscated, and eventually the gun grabbers will win the legislative fights.
00:06:27.000This argument is the necessary argument to be able to say that more sophisticated weaponry, weapons of war, need to be owned by citizens.
00:06:36.000And we must be clear about it, and we must be willing to have an informed and hopefully reasonable conversation with detractors on why the founding fathers put the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights, which, by the way, was inspired by the Virginia Declaration of Rights, passed and written by the great George Mason, and that was eventually adopted in 1791 through a ratification of states.
00:06:59.000The Constitution was written and ratified, and then the Bill of Rights was written and ratified.
00:07:05.000So, what is the purpose of the Second Amendment?
00:07:08.000The purpose of the Second Amendment is to give citizens an equilibrium with their government.
00:07:16.000The purpose of the Second Amendment is for an armed people, which is a free people, under the hopefully never to see in our lifetime situation that we're able to defend ourselves against a tyrannical government.
00:07:30.000Now, the media calls us conspiracy theorists and calls us all sorts of names when we say this.
00:07:37.000Do you need any more evidence than what you saw the last couple years with COVID of how important it is that people are able to defend themselves against a potentially tyrannical government?
00:07:50.000COVID lockdowns would have been far worse if it wasn't for the Second Amendment.
00:07:56.000We would have been closer to New Zealand or Australia because if only one side has the guns, they get to call all the shots.
00:08:03.000James Madison, we have a picture of James Madison here in our studio, the father of the United States Constitution, said, quote, always remember that an armed and trained militia is the firmest bulwark of republics, that without standing armies, their liberty can never be in danger, nor with large ones, safe.
00:08:39.000To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.
00:08:46.000The founding fathers were clear that if you disarm a people, you enslave them.
00:08:55.000The purpose of the Second Amendment is to be able to protect all the other amendments.
00:09:01.000The purpose of the Second Amendment protects your right to privacy, the Fourth Amendment, protects your right against self-incrimination, the Fifth Amendment, protects your right to due process, 6th, 7th, 8th Amendment, protects your right to speech and to assembly.
00:09:16.000A free people must have leverage against tyrants.
00:09:22.000One of the reasons why America has a tradition of the many ruling the few, not the few ruling the many, is because we've been armed.
00:09:34.000And for some people, they just don't like hearing this.
00:10:07.000It is the bulwark against an authoritarian government to lock us down, to force vaccines on you, to force masks on you, to make you live a certain way.
00:10:20.000A Second Amendment protects your values against a potential authoritarian regime.
00:10:34.000Now, mind you, I don't like talking about the potential fail-safe of us having to go to protect ourselves against the government, but let's not fool ourselves.
00:10:42.000If the 20th century taught us anything, it's that graveyards multiply when people are disarmed.
00:10:53.000In order to ensure liberty, you must have an armed citizenry.
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00:12:01.000Second Amendment protects all the other amendments.
00:12:04.000Now, if we are not clear about why that is the intent of the Second Amendment, then it becomes nothing more than just a self-defense argument.
00:12:14.000And then they'll say, well, then why do you need an AR-15 just to protect yourself?
00:12:17.000Now, there is a good argument for that if you know about the LA riots and the kind of legendary Korean storekeepers that went on their roof and protected themselves using AR-15s against the rioters.
00:12:30.000There is a good reason for self-defense.
00:12:33.000But that's not the intent of it, and it will make us profoundly less free as a country if we're not clear about why we have the Second Amendment.
00:12:44.000So, right now, about 26 million people in Shanghai, China are locked down.
00:12:50.000They cannot leave their apartment buildings.
00:12:53.000What would Shanghai look like right now if they had a Second Amendment in China?
00:13:00.000What would Hong Kong have looked like a couple years ago when China just annexed Hong Kong if every one of the Hong Kong freedom protesters had an AR-15 slung around their back?
00:13:11.000Now, that doesn't mean they had to use it, but as soon as the people have weapons, it becomes a negotiation and it no longer is a hostage situation.
00:13:21.000If you do not have a Second Amendment, the government can take you hostage at any time.
00:13:25.000If only one side has the guns, then one side gets to determine whether or not you are free.
00:13:33.000Now, if you trust the government, then this argument will not resonate with you.
00:13:38.000But if you've lived through the last couple years, I don't think I have to give you a very long argument on why you shouldn't trust the federal government.
00:13:48.000With all the problems facing us as a nation, one of the few reasons we even have the freedom that we have right now is because the government has some fear that if they go too far, an armed people could react.
00:14:05.000And believe it or not, that actually keeps us away from conflict.
00:14:11.000It's actually when both sides believe something bad could happen.
00:14:15.000It's actually the argument for widespread nuclear proliferation, by the way, is that what keeps us away from nuclear war is both sides having nuclear weapons.
00:14:29.000You do not have to love guns or be enthusiastic about guns or even own guns to appreciate or respect the philosophical and moral argument that I'm making for the Second Amendment.
00:14:41.000I have some dear friends in the suburbs of Chicago, and they're not really big gun people.
00:14:49.000They might kind of get a little freaked out around them, but they wholeheartedly agree as to why we have a Second Amendment.
00:14:56.000In fact, they're thankful as to why we have a Second Amendment because they believe they live freer lives thanks to other people that own guns.
00:15:04.000And I think that's a very good way of looking at it.
00:15:07.000I'm not here to tell you that you should own guns, but I encourage you to do so.
00:15:13.000I'm not here to say that you should have to love everything about gun culture.
00:15:17.000I happen to love firearms and I love shooting them.
00:15:21.000But what I'm asking instead is to appreciate how fragile freedom and liberty is and to understand that without the Second Amendment, your love of liberty and freedom and what you treasure and what you value could vanish.
00:15:38.000What we know from a study of human history, what we know from our own life experience just the last couple years, is that liberty is constantly under attack from tyrants.
00:15:48.000And a responsible ownership of guns is a check on autocrats.
00:15:53.000One of the moral arguments of the United States Constitution is check and balances.
00:16:01.000That not one person, one organization, one institution should be able to have too much power over the other.
00:16:09.000That sort of attention on a check and balance is a safeguard and a fail-safe for liberty.
00:16:17.000In case all other falls apart, well, guess what?
00:16:20.000The ultimate check and balance for society is the people to have a little bit of leverage.
00:16:27.000Now, believe it or not, Elon Musk has said this.
00:16:30.000He came out last evening and said, I want to make sure I get his wording right here, but he said something along the lines of the Second Amendment is a necessary firewall against potential tyranny.
00:16:46.000And Elon recognizes and understands that if you confiscate the weapons and only one side has the power, then there is no stopping what they could do.
00:16:57.000Elon breaks his silence and says, quote, the right to bear arms is an important safeguard against potential tyranny of government.
00:17:12.000Instead, the only ask I have out of you is to understand the philosophical and the moral necessity for a people to be able to be armed against a tyrannical government.
00:17:27.000Hey, everybody, you've heard me talk about Legacy Box before.
00:19:30.000There's some scumbags like Sean King that are going after the police.
00:19:34.000And I don't want to give oxygen to the anti-police crowd unnecessarily, but I'm also going to be very clear and fair when there's a situation that any reasonable person believes is mishandled.
00:19:47.000And this whole thing kind of comes on an argument from authority where people say, Charlie, you have no right to do that because you've never been in a situation like that.
00:19:54.000You're right, I've never been in a situation like that.
00:19:56.000But there is an opportunity where you have a little bit of prudence and practical judgment and common sense where you're going to comment on something where you say, What on earth was happening here?
00:20:08.000The additional information from yesterday, where we did some rather, I would say, let's say we had some opinions yesterday.
00:20:18.000Everything we have said yesterday has only now been further clarified and strengthened.
00:20:23.000So, the Uvalde police have done a police press conference, and they have said this: quote, they made a decision not to break into the classroom because officers on site believed there was no longer an active shooting situation, even though children were calling 911 at the time, pleading for officers to come and save them.
00:20:42.000Here's what we know: there was no attempt to breach the doors to the classroom.
00:20:47.000Kids in the classroom called 911 over and over again and were ignored.
00:20:52.000Police are claiming they didn't know kids were alive in the room, even though kids were pleading to be saved, and they waited.
00:21:01.000And the timeline is actually reinforces what we said yesterday, but we'll repeat it.
00:21:07.000The first call was at 12:03 from room 112 in the school.
00:21:11.000At 12:10, she called back and advised multiple are dead.
00:21:15.000At 12:13, 12:15, 8 to 10 students are still alive.
00:21:20.00012:19, students were told to leave the school.
00:21:24.000At 12:21, three shots were fired by the police, lasted 21 seconds.
00:21:29.000And then there is a 25-minute gap where they call the police again, repeatedly, asking the police to come now.
00:21:36.000And then by 12:51, very loud sounds like officers removing students out.
00:21:42.000And then it's a little bit unclear what happened there.
00:21:44.000What we do know now, and it's been verified through multiple sources, is that the Border Patrol agents who ended up neutralizing the shooter arrived earlier than was disclosed, but the Uvalde police initially kept them from entering the school, two officials said.
00:22:01.000So the Uvalde police kept back the Border Patrol.
00:22:05.000Agents from Border Patrol and Immigration Customs Enforcement arrived between 12 and 12.10 while there were still many children alive, far earlier than previously known.
00:22:17.000But they did not breach the adjoining classrooms until an hour later, where the gunman had locked himself in until a little before 1 p.m.
00:22:26.000So there was a 50 to 55 minute gap where the Border Patrol arrived and then they finally acted.
00:22:34.000There is more and more information coming out, and I hate to say this for those of you that sent me some of those nasty emails.
00:22:40.000And thank you for listening, and I appreciate your feedback.
00:22:44.000I'm not angry at you, even though you're pretty angry at me.
00:22:48.000I hate to say it, but this is making the police look worse than yesterday.
00:22:53.000They looked bad yesterday, but the more information we learn, and the police have now admitted failure.
00:22:59.000In their press conference, the police have come out and they've said, and I'm paraphrasing, we can get the exact clip, this was mishandled.
00:23:13.000But what we do now know, admitted by the police, is that a decision was made not to break into the classroom because the officers believed wrongly that there's no longer an active shooting situation.
00:23:26.000And I just want to, the great Judge Denine on Fox News made this point.
00:24:13.000And I think he deserves credit for this.
00:24:15.000Now, that's not going to be comforting for people, but it is the correct way to handle this.
00:24:21.000Instead of lying about it and covering it up and filibustering, which we're so used to, I do want to say it's good for this colonel, and I want to acknowledge him for admitting fault here.
00:25:38.000I don't know what happened to that country.
00:25:42.000I want to tell you about Patriot Mobile as we get more sound from this press conference.
00:25:50.000And Doug has sent a very good question here.
00:25:54.000Charlie, I find it curious that an 18-year-old living with his grandmother could have afforded two $2,000 rifles with optics and ammunition and over a thousand rounds.
00:26:03.000I think that's a very smart point, Doug.
00:26:05.000I don't get it, and we need an explanation.
00:26:08.000Unfortunately, this press conference makes it official.
00:26:11.000The great sagar in Jetty says, he's a good man.
00:26:15.000Uvalde police held up Border Patrol from taking down Ramos while he continued to kill kids despite 911 calls from kids to hell them, to help them.
00:26:23.000A colossal failure that is only now being acknowledged by the Texas Department of Press Services.
00:26:28.000This press conference in Uvalde now confirms the police prevented Border Patrol from going in and saving children's lives.
00:26:38.000Someone just said, Charlie, I believed you passed judgment on cops too quickly before getting all the information.
00:26:45.000But today you're sharing information on shooting in a calm and professional manner.
00:26:48.000This additional info seems to support you, but you're expressing it in a more calm manner today.
00:28:08.000The on-scene commander at the time believed that it had transitioned from an active shooter to a barricaded subject.
00:28:17.000The on-scene commander believed it had transitioned from a active shooter to a barricaded situation while kids were still calling 911 pleading for help.
00:28:42.000But it tells us this shooter was going person by person by person.
00:28:47.000While according to now reports, 19 police officers stood outside the hall, and an on-scene commander didn't want to go in and save people's lives.
00:29:02.000And you think, even if the shooting has stopped, what about the wounded people that could be saved that were bleeding out to death?
00:29:28.000The country I grew up in was the Flight 93 country.
00:29:31.000The country I grew up in were the heroes of the firefighters that went into the fighter.
00:29:36.000Flight 93, there was no training to storm the cockpit in Flight 93.
00:29:39.000Yeah, they all died, but we remember them every 9-11.
00:29:43.000And the last words that we heard from the cockpit before they stormed the cockpit for the al-Qaeda terrorists that tried to kill people in D.C., they said, let's roll.
00:29:52.000And yeah, they all went to their death.
00:29:56.000I was raised in a country where people said, I would rather die as a hero than live as a coward.
00:30:07.000So now we know children called 911 at 12.15 and confirmed students alive.
00:30:12.000The Bortak team, the Border Patrol team, was there at 12 or 1210.
00:30:17.000And a teacher called saying that there are students still alive.
00:30:20.000And so there were 19 police officers in a hallway that, according to now, the admission of the investigation, Texas Department of Public School, DPS, I'm not public school, public safety, I'm sorry.
00:30:38.000There was no attempt at all whatsoever.
00:30:41.000And so the question was asked: what efforts were the officers making to try and break through either that door or another door to get inside the classroom?
00:30:49.000None at that time is what the answer is.
00:30:53.000So I hate to be this blunt and I hate to be this kind of candid, but they stood and watched and listened.
00:32:14.000It just so happens that now the new information further reinforces it.
00:32:18.000And the Texas Department of Safety, in their investigation, has admitted the following, that there was no breach attempts made, that there was a 30 to 40 minute gap, that Border Patrol was told to stand down, that parents were arrested and tased, that kids were calling, begging, and pleading for police to intervene, and they didn't.
00:32:37.000That there was knowledge that children were alive inside.
00:32:40.000So this idea that, oh, everyone was dead, even though that's silly because people could be bleeding out, so on and so forth, or there could be kids literally playing dead because there were kids playing dead, believe it or not.
00:32:52.000That's a really, really, really weak argument, is that there's now an inexplicable and irreversible.
00:32:59.000So an hour and 16 minutes, just so we know, this is the new timeline.
00:33:03.00076 minutes from the moment the police first entered the school and when they finally killed the shooter.
00:33:09.000It is worse than what we said yesterday.
00:33:14.000We said 40 minutes yesterday, 76 minutes from when the police first entered the school to when they finally killed the shooter.
00:33:23.000What do you think was going on in their heads, 19 police officers standing there?
00:35:55.000I'm very afraid, I should say, that it's going to get worse.
00:35:59.000We are just seeing the beginning stages of this.
00:36:01.000And look, you have an entire generation addicted to pornography.
00:36:05.000You have a generation that doesn't interact with other people, especially girls, because of the hyper-feminization of our country.
00:36:13.000I believe the hyper-feminization of America leads to some of these things.
00:36:16.000I'm not saying it leads to school shootings directly, but it leads to social isolation.
00:36:21.000It leads to antisocial behaviors, and it leads to men not being able to develop properly.
00:36:26.000And look, I think we need to have a very serious investigation into the over-medication of our children.
00:36:32.000I think we need to look into whether or not benzodiazepans and antidepressants and Prozac are actually doing what they should be doing.
00:36:40.000Are they making people more violent and actually more depressed?
00:36:42.000I'm just asking because there's a lot of conflicting data when it comes to the prescription of antidepressants.
00:36:47.000I know some people that they say it helps them, okay, but I could tell it causes a lot of damage to people.
00:36:56.000And I wouldn't have said this a couple years ago, but I could tell you that after the lying from the pharmaceutical companies of the last couple of years, I certainly don't trust them.
00:37:24.000I think it's creating a lot of damaging effects that we can't even manage and we can't track in a very, very serious manner.
00:37:34.000We have created a set of environmental and cultural influences that put such incredible pressure in a negative way, not good pressure, because there's a lot of good pressure on young men.
00:37:53.000The Me Too movement has had something to do with this.
00:37:55.000Just staring at screens all day long has had some has had a lot to do with this.
00:37:59.000I know parents right now are just looking for help.
00:38:02.000And one of the takeaways is that if you feel as if your child is engaging in this type of antisocial behavior, you need to engage very, very quickly.
00:38:15.000Hopefully get involved in some sort of faith community.
00:38:18.000Socialization is a very, very important thing, being around other people their age, pushing of boundaries, challenging of limits.
00:38:25.000And you look at what's happening, not just with these specific incidences that pop off the charts, but you look at the broader pharmaceutical industrial complex that is pushing these medications on children.
00:38:35.000Parents, be very careful, please, medicating your children.
00:38:39.000Be very careful giving them antidepressants.
00:38:42.000Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
00:38:44.000Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.