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00:01:25.000Currently, there are Supreme Court arguments happening around Donald Trump's ballot access.
00:01:31.000Involves the state of Colorado, Jason Murray is arguing on behalf of Colorado voters, just a small amount of voters that are petitioning up to the Supreme Court saying that Donald Trump should not be allowed to be on the ballot.
00:01:48.000This is not going well for the Democrats at all.
00:01:50.000This is not going well for the radical activists that want to kick Donald Trump off the ballot.
00:01:58.000I want to just play a little bit of a taste here.
00:02:01.000This is, of all people, Katanji Brown Jackson, who is tilting saying that I don't think this is going to go well.
00:02:11.000In Cut 98, you have Justice Kagan, and in Cut 89, we have Katangi Brown Jackson.
00:02:16.000Let's actually start with Justice Kagan, who is beginning to just rip their heart out of their argument.
00:02:41.000But maybe put most boldly, I think that the question that you have to confront is why a single state should decide who gets to be president of the United States.
00:02:51.000In other words, you know, this question of whether a former president is disqualified for insurrection to be president.
00:02:58.000This is getting down to the essence of are they able to kick Donald Trump off the ballot coming into November.
00:03:07.000This could end this entire discussion once and for all.
00:03:11.000Looks like the Supreme Court is angling towards what is probably the easiest ruling for them to make.
00:03:15.000That ruling would be the 14th Amendment that simply doesn't just give states the power to disqualify presidential candidates absent a federal law saying so.
00:03:24.000Again, even Elena Kagan is saying, and she's super suspicious of the Colorado's argument.
00:03:30.000During all her arguments, she asked the Colorado lawyer, why should one state get to decide who is president?
00:03:36.000Kagan called this extraordinary for one state to simply execute a federal constitution provision in this manner.
00:03:43.000Now, the left is getting increasingly depressed and desperate.
00:03:48.000Mark Joseph Stern, the legal writer for Far Left Slate, tweeted, quote, in my view, this argument is as good as over.
00:03:55.000A majority will hold that individual states can't enforce Section 3 against the president and will hold that individual states can't enforce Section 3 against the president, at least without congressional approval.
00:04:06.000In other words, Trump wins and he gets to be on the ballot.
00:04:10.000They literally might even lose Katangi Brown Jackson.
00:04:12.000In oral arguments, she appeared to be open to the idea that Trump can't be disqualified because the president is not an officer of the United States.
00:04:18.000Another one of the arguments Trump has advanced.
00:04:49.000But for an insurrection, there needs to be an organized, concerted effort to overthrow the government of the United States through violence.
00:05:08.000The events were shameful, criminal, violent, all of those things, but it did not qualify as insurrection as that term is used in Section 3.
00:05:17.000Now, this was KBG on insurrection, but she pivots, and we're going to be playing more and more tape here.
00:05:22.000Even the left-wingers on the court are not open or sympathetic to these arguments.
00:05:30.000This is a completely made-up argument.
00:05:32.000And understand, they're trying to say that this is an insurrection.
00:05:35.000This person arguing, Jason Murray in front of the Supreme Court, arguing on behalf of Colorado voters, is saying, well, it was an insurrection in the open.
00:05:44.000Justice Brett Kavanaugh asked the most important question.
00:06:00.000This is trending towards potentially a 7-2 or 8-1 ruling, a potential unanimous ruling.
00:06:06.000And if that happens, the left gets completely steamrolled on this one.
00:06:10.000Once again, they'll have made Trump stronger from their frenzy to hurt him.
00:06:15.000Now, remember, John Roberts will push for unanimous ruling, but I think the worst we can expect here is 7-2.
00:06:22.000The trend on this is that even honest liberals are a little bit cautious.
00:06:31.000They're a little bit worried that obliterating a former president from ballot access could potentially be a Rubicon that they do not want to cross.
00:06:45.000And in fact, in dialogues, Brett Kavanaugh and Alito and Gorsuch press repeatedly, has Donald Trump been charged with insurrection?
00:06:54.000And Jason Murray says, well, you just kind of know it.
00:06:57.000You just kind of see it and you know that it's happening.
00:07:00.000Let's play cut 101 of Kagan asking, what is a state doing deciding what other citizens get to vote for president, play cut 101?
00:07:09.000I guess, you know, it did come up in the First Amendment, but there's a broader principle there, and it's a broader principle about who has power over certain things in our federal system.
00:07:20.000And, you know, within our federal system, states have great power over many different areas, but that there's some broader principle about that there are certain national questions where states are not the repository of authority.
00:07:38.000And I took a lot, First Amendment, not First Amendment, a lot of Anderson's reasoning is really about that.
00:07:44.000Like, what's a state doing deciding who gets to Who other citizens get to vote for for president?
00:07:56.000This would be a big statement if the Supreme Court decided 9-0.
00:08:02.000Now, whether or not that's going to happen, we will see.
00:08:05.000But it's almost a certainty that Donald Trump will be allowed on the ballot.
00:08:09.000Here's more of Katangi Brown Jackson play cut 102.
00:08:12.000Restrict presidential candidates wouldn't have existed.
00:08:15.000They wouldn't have been raised one way or another.
00:08:17.000Right, but I'm not making a distinction between ballot access and anything else.
00:08:21.000Understood, but the more broad point I want to make is that what is very clear from the history is that the framers were concerned about charismatic rebels who might rise through the ranks up to and including the presidency of the United States.
00:08:34.000But then why didn't they put the word president in the very enumerated list in section three?
00:08:40.000The thing that really is troubling to me is I totally understand your argument, but they were listing people that were barred, and president is not there.
00:08:54.000They thought that they could get Donald Trump through all the indictments, through all the law fair, through ballot access at every single corner, every single turn.
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00:10:23.000In America this year, only 5% of the island in Maui burned, but 95% of the island lost its power and sell service.
00:10:28.000Even the 911 emergency service was down because they had no access to satellite communication backup.
00:10:56.000This is about supporting the integrity of the United States Constitution.
00:11:00.000Even if you hate somebody, they should be able to run for the presidency.
00:11:04.000These laws were written in a post-Civil War context to try to prevent individuals that literally were at war with the United States from potentially serving in the government.
00:11:17.000These are very antiquated laws, and there is a process.
00:11:20.000Did Congress remove and successfully impeach Donald Trump on these claims?
00:13:08.000So if you want Donald Trump to win the election, then go ahead, throw your vote away and vote third party.
00:13:15.000If you don't and you want to maintain our democracy and work within our system to reform it, maybe down the line, there can be an opportunity to have ballot access or a third party or whatever, that's fine.
00:13:26.000But right now, the threat to our democracy is too great to be messing around with third party candidacies.
00:13:33.000The threat to our democracy is too great to allow too many options.
00:13:38.000Remember, just replace the word oligarchy and it solves your question.
00:13:46.000You see, the system of checks and balances that we have in this country, of consent to the governed, of separation of powers, they're going after all of it.
00:13:57.000And it starts with the will of the people.
00:14:00.000Who are the sovereign in this country?
00:14:07.000And they want the sovereign to be an unelected group of people that are able to call shots on who you get to vote for.
00:14:16.000They want to be able to say that you don't have a constitutional right to be able to speak.
00:14:23.000The claim is that the president isn't explicitly listed in the 14th Amendment.
00:14:27.000And in other contexts, throughout the Constitution, when officers of the United States are mentioned, the president is the one who chooses or oversees them.
00:14:34.000So the argument goes the 14th Amendment applies to literally every federal job except the president.
00:14:40.000This is the argument that is unfolding in front of the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:14:46.000How many times do we have to live under this tyranny of nameless and faceless experts?
00:14:52.000And it does go to a very disturbing trend.
00:14:54.000Again, the people that are yammering about democracy, yammering about the threat to democracy, they don't actually want you to be able to participate in a fair and free election.
00:15:08.000The fact that you have a ballot terrifies them.
00:15:10.000The fact that you will be able to vote horrifies them.
00:15:15.000Senator Roger Marshall is out speaking about this.
00:15:17.000We're going to throw that up in a second.
00:15:19.000And KBJ, for example, who is Katangi Brown Jackson, obviously agrees that Trump committed insurrection, but she is signaling and seems to believe that since the president isn't listed, that it doesn't matter.
00:15:29.000So they're finding all sorts of different nitpicky essences here.
00:15:33.000But I think it's important that we get the facts right.
00:15:35.000Donald Trump did not commit insurrection.
00:16:30.000Look, if you are Gen Z or millennial, leave a little bit of money put aside, it might be the best opportunity to go to AndrewandTodd.com and buy a home.
00:18:56.000But if you take a look at my words right after, you take a look at my speech from the Rose Guard, which was very shortly after, or you take a look at my, I'm only on truth now, but at that time we were tweeting and I was on Twitter.
00:19:11.000If you take a look at those five or six tweets, you'll see very beautiful, very heartwarming statements.
00:21:38.000She did very poorly in Iowa, actually.
00:21:41.000She came in third place, Ron DeSantis Peter, although you wouldn't know that if you listened to her speech, she did poorly in New Hampshire.
00:21:50.000She did poorly no matter where she went.
00:21:52.000I don't know how the results are in yet from the Virgin Islands, but I know she's playing it very hard.
00:22:21.000Mr. President, thank you for having us on the beginning.
00:22:34.000Well, I can say presidential immunity, which we'll be talking about because that would be upcoming, is very, very important for a president.
00:22:42.000If a president doesn't have immunity, he really doesn't have a presidency.
00:22:48.000He can be told to do things that he would never do.
00:22:52.000He could do really bad things for our country.
00:22:56.000It's going to be very, very important.
00:22:57.000And I'd rather talk about that next week, but there is nothing more important to a presidency than immunity because they have to be free to make decisions without saying, oh, if I do this or if I do that, as soon as I get out of office, we're going to be indicted.
00:25:16.000Major liberal court watchers, the people watching this, do not seem overjoyed with what they got today.
00:25:23.000We mentioned Mark Joseph Stern, legal writer at Slate.
00:25:26.000He's watching the line of questionings.
00:25:28.000And when Kagan asks Colorado's representative, well, wait, why is it okay for one state to decide basically who becomes president?
00:25:37.000Because one swing state could essentially say, well, this candidate's off the ballot, therefore they're not going to be able to win.
00:25:44.000And when she's asking that question, there's not really a good answer to that.
00:25:48.000And if that's the sort of question that the liberal members of the Supreme Court are asking, then it's not looking good for the idea of, well, we can just delete Trump from the ballot on our own and make this all go away.
00:26:00.000Will this then end all the legal challenges for ballot access for Trump?
00:26:03.000Will this basically be, will this settle it?
00:26:07.000This would at least end any push to disqualify him as an insurrectionist.
00:26:13.000I can't, they're always getting more creative.
00:26:15.000They're a particular vector, particular vector.
00:26:17.000Importantly, this doesn't handle anything related to Jack Smith charging Trump with a crime.
00:26:22.000So what you could get is if they pushed that fast enough and got him convicted of something, we could revisit this with, oh, well, now he's been convicted of something.
00:26:56.000Of what we would do if we were if different states had adjudicated the question of whether former President Trump is an insurrectionist using a different record, different rulings on the admissibility of evidence, perhaps different standards of proof, then what would we do?
00:27:18.000Ultimately, this court would, first of all, if there were deficiencies in the record, the court could either refuse to hear the case or it could decide on the basis of deficiencies of the record.
00:27:28.000Well, would we have to decide what is the appropriate rule of evidence that should be applied in this case?
00:27:35.000Would we have to decide what is the appropriate standard of proof?
00:27:39.000Would we give any deference to these findings by state court judges, some of whom may be elected?
00:28:16.000It just really stands out how Supreme Court justices are really the only big thing in the United States where you just have to be incredibly smart to get it.
00:28:25.000And, you know, we love a lot of members of Congress, but I don't know that there's any members of Congress who could just ruthlessly take someone apart on this.
00:28:31.000It's also one of the few things where there is such an established hierarchy that when you're really kind of making a dumb argument, you can't like respond in like a tongue-in-cheek way.
00:28:41.000Yeah, yeah, you can't be, you can't be witty.
00:28:43.000You can't just make quips for the television cameras.
00:28:45.000And if you do that, everyone will roll their eyes and think that you're really stupid.
00:28:49.000And then they'll be more likely to rule against you.
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00:30:14.000Blake makes a really smart point, which is in politics, you want to appear, at least, as the more reasonable person.
00:30:21.000And when the Supreme Court will rule decisively that the bad guys are trying to kick you off a ballot and that's no good, it actually makes Trump look more reasonable, which in the eyes of moderate suburban voters, I'm not going to say it's going to win them over, but it's a step in the right direction.
00:30:39.000It also lets him play political victim.
00:30:44.000This didn't have to happen, yet they just insisted on doing it.
00:30:48.000And even when it happened, we talked about this.
00:30:50.000They're just going to get smacked by the Supreme Court and it'll make them look dumb and aggressive like they were trying to undermine democracy, as they say.
00:30:57.000And I think that's how a lot of the people will hear it.
00:31:01.000We could see that with the Jack Smith case.
00:31:03.000I could see that going to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court says, you're prosecuting Trump for his public speech he gave and asking us to totally rewrite the First Amendment.
00:31:22.000Every single case they've brought against Trump, they could easily have the Supreme Court smack them down on it.
00:31:27.000And on top of this, we could just end up where we get to September, we get to October, and there's this murderer's row of Supreme Court cases saying you guys massively overreached to try to take an election out of the hands of the voters.
00:32:01.000Trump and the aura around him drives people into a frenzy and he makes them do things that just were unthinkable before.
00:32:09.000And a lot of those things are super self-destructive.
00:32:12.000Yeah, and I think that part of them is that they believe that on election day, if there's even a chance, you're telling me there's a chance that they won't be able to live with that.
00:32:23.000I think that they need to try to remove all risk, all chance.
00:32:26.000And by doing so, they're actually making Donald Trump more powerful, more appealing, more reasonable.
00:32:32.000I mean, these are great headlines for Trump right now.
00:32:34.000I mean, these are, think about what the Trump headlines that we usually have to navigate, right?
00:32:39.000It's truly almost nothing that has helped Trump in the last year has been from Trump himself.
00:32:45.000It's just, they've done all these insane things.
00:33:25.000And as you mentioned, it makes him a victim, but in a much more appealing way of, oh, they don't want you to even be allowed to vote for him.
00:34:01.000And so he's now talking about now they're trying to kick me off the ballot, which is a clear and present danger.
00:34:06.000And even honest liberals don't like this.
00:34:08.000Even honest liberals are like, yeah, I don't know if we should just be removing our political opponents from ballot access.
00:34:13.000Although, even they're going more and more deranged.
00:34:16.000Lawrence Tribe used to be one of the most, I shudder to say, one of the most respected legal scholars in the United States for some reason.
00:34:24.000He's just, if you, he's one of the people hurt most by the existence of Twitter, because before Twitter, he would just be this guy in the academy with this, you know, all this aura of respect around him.
00:34:35.000And now you can just see what he says day to day.
00:34:47.000And we're seeing that with a lot of other people.
00:34:49.000And I think some of them are coming to their senses only in the sense of they're looking around and saying, guys, we're going to lose and we're going to lose entirely because of things we chose to do.
00:34:59.000And Blake, I don't know if you agree, but I just, the way that they're behaving, it's as if they're trying to set the table for a lone wolf lunatic to try to assassinate Donald Trump.
00:35:09.000I mean, it's, I mean, they would definitely cheer it on if it happened.
00:35:12.000I don't think it's a calculated plan, but I think even what I've heard from others is there's not really a centralized plan to take down Trump, which is why this happened.
00:35:34.000Trump just gets stronger, but in reality, you guys get stronger because it's a movement with a single individual leading it, but it's a movement first.
00:35:44.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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